Please add a killfeed

[raw egret]

adding a killfeed would help people much more tracking kills, i sometimes dont even know if i got someone killed, so a global killfeed would be good or a killfeed only for you so no one can see u killed someone other.

[odd kestrel]

You have that in Causalfield mod.

[raw egret]

thats a mod?

[odd kestrel]

Yes, https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3140994891&searchtext=ca

[raw egret]

tsym, but i still want it to be fully added to the game

[odd kestrel]

The mod is used on some servers, look for name "squad spawn, revive or just causalfield.

[odd kestrel]

Agree, like a option

[obsidian vessel]

ngl could have it either a bit like the RO/RS titles where killfeed is a bit delayed so you dont immidiately know if you killed sm, or not rlly a killfeed but some subtle hit/kill feedback by sound like in HLL (like a helmet ping on a headshot)

would be 2 options

[raw egret]

yeah

[obsidian vessel]

maybe the delay could depend on the distance to the person you killed

[raw egret]

oh and another great idea: Subtitles incase you didnt hear your friendly use in-game chat (build-in thingies) there would be subtitles

[obsidian vessel]

along with sound

[raw egret]

like a gtav type subtitles

[obsidian vessel]

Eh i think there should be a radial callout menu with situational voice lines sometime

you cant rlly subtitle live voice chat

[raw egret]

no not vc

that would be

hard

the game callouts

[raw egret]

maybe u would talk with the dev

[obsidian vessel]

yea when smt like that gets added

[odd kestrel]

Well. I cant do nothing about. Whole team is busy on upcoming update. I think they will go back to suggestion after this

I bet they definitely talked about it among themselves. The dev team are also players and probably know other games.

Some of them were involved in the development of these games

[raw egret]

thats nice

i know of course it will take less than 3 months (or more )so a matter of time and should be a thing

[odd kestrel]

The quesion is if they want to have it in vanilla, I don't know how familiar you are with the idea of ​​the project itself. It is supposed to be a platform for modders, but over time, small steps will be taken to implement improvements in the future.

Community Manager has a habit of doing votes when he wants to add something to the game.

Generally it all depends on resources, time and money.

[raw egret]

okay

good to know

[drowsy swan]

I don't like kill feed even as option, it makes the game unfair for those who want to play it as realistic simulator

[obsidian vessel]

Well theres this option

And as he said maybe it only shows Up to you

The game will need a balance of realism elements and some accommodating more "casual" players the way it's advertised

If a killfeed would be too much at that could at least do it as HLL and give audio feedback for killing/hitting someone (helmet Ping/fleshy impact sound on your end)

[grim wharf]

I think it doesn’t fit in milsim. It should be uncertain if you go for uncertain kills through the bushes for example. As a mod it sure fits. Instead, animations of deaths could be improved a lot

[obsidian vessel]

Again while this has taken on the development as a tactical shooter now, (HLL counts as a milsim despite having this and friendly markers btw) it cant go too hardcore because so far it hasnt marketed itself that much as a huge hardcore milsim, and inevitably if this game is supposed to grow big it cant be too hardcore as it'd scare away players

It can have tactical/milsim mechanics and elements yes but it is the smallest corner of the gaming/shooter market and from how it was promoted this game was supposed to be somewhat a mix of things like those milsims/tactical shooters and battlefield/insurgency

so i dont think something like hit/kill feedback is too much, in fact i think thats some QOL we could need somewhat

[odd kestrel]

I meant that it could be an option but with the option to enable/disable it on the server

[grim wharf]

Hit feedback is like wallhacks for bushes. It really doesn’t make it harder to play, you just don’t know if you go for uncertain guess kills.

[obsidian vessel]

Hell let loose has this and its not a problem

esp the newer maps are pretty big and you have limited ammo

[grim wharf]

The most annoying thing in battlefield are spot markers that reveal you through the smoke, this works similarly

[odd kestrel]

We are not going on copy HLL, we are going milsim

[grim wharf]

Until you hit someone through the bushes and know the outcome

[obsidian vessel]

the problem with having no hitback at all is that it can start to feel frustating or confusing or annoying

[obsidian vessel]

HLL is milsim

[odd kestrel]

Hell no

[obsidian vessel]

yes it is

[odd kestrel]

Milsim is ARMA

but not HLL

[obsidian vessel]

thats HARDCORE milsim

[grim wharf]

Why would you be entitled to have information about concealed enemy takedown, it makes hiding even weaker

You have kill counter that you check on scoreboard if you’re that concerned

[obsidian vessel]

and titles like arma and squad are only big because they are big names and have been for a long while, milsims are the smallest gaming community, and so far by all ive seen OHD has marketed itself as a tactical shooter and not a hardcore milsim, drake at most made comparissions to HLL/squad but he said himself this is not surpassing Arma, and frankly I dont think it should either, you need a balance of features to allow for tactical play but also so more "casual" gamers wont just quit in confusion and rage after 1 match, especially when youve also used titles like "Battlefield" as points of comparrission for this game

If you want it so much maybe like casualfield you can have a mod that simulates more hardcore systems/elements of milsim

[obsidian vessel]

yeah well in that case whats speaking against it

[obsidian vessel]

HLL does this with sound, you hear an impact sound or helmet ping if you kill an enemy, its subtle enough while still giving you feedback

[odd kestrel]

I can only say, you will got this if Blue want it 😉

[grim wharf]

checking scoreboard adds delay, that hitmarker is too instant

[obsidian vessel]

this isnt hitmarker

[grim wharf]

kill confirm feed

[obsidian vessel]

https://youtu.be/BlS6EEqpqSk?si=_hftL5TmE5LV5RNk im talking abt smt like this if killfeed is too much

[grim wharf]

This is instant feedback

[obsidian vessel]

Red Orchestra/Rising Sun games had killfeed but it had built in delay

[odd kestrel]

@obsidian vessel I think this is only you who make that big cry for it

[obsidian vessel]

It's more "immersive" than a killfeed if thats your concern

so i dont see whats wrong with it

realistically you should be deaf anyways from all the gunfire but you arent, so why not

[grim wharf]

And less tactically fair, creating magic knowledge to discourage stealth once again

[obsidian vessel]

how so?

[obsidian vessel]

The game is extremely small atm is it not

and by what i see casualfield is often if not constantly full server

[grim wharf]

if someone in bushes, you should still be weary even after killing them, but that won’t be the case with instant feedback

[obsidian vessel]

have you played HLL lol

[odd kestrel]

HLL is the best of everything?

[obsidian vessel]

granted the maps are even bigger there but it still applies, theres nothing rlly speaking against it

[grim wharf]

no, but I watched videos

[obsidian vessel]

I use it as example

I use plenty of games for examples

[grim wharf]

doesn’t mean it’s better because popular. There are different views

[obsidian vessel]

HLL, Red Orchestra, Rising Sun

[odd kestrel]

@obsidian vessel Read again, is ok if we have it so long we can enable or disable on server.

[obsidian vessel]

it very much matters when making a game

[odd kestrel]

Otherwise it's just an empty discussion

[grim wharf]

delayed killfeed maybe is fine, but this hurts immersion

[obsidian vessel]

Again I'm saying Hell Let Loose is a milsim game that does this, it can be a feature by base game

audio hit feedback i mean not killfeed

killfeed you can make server sided whatever

[odd kestrel]

Im out, you have different point of view what is milsim

[obsidian vessel]

it literally is a milsim

[grim wharf]

realistic shooter

[obsidian vessel]

the only people that have rlly said it's more "casual" are people playing even more hardcore milsims like S44/Squad, and while being pretty successful and having a big playerbase, Hell Let Loose, drop a CoD black ops player in it and you'll see that its not "casual"

[grim wharf]

whatever, there are different views and I outlined disadvantages of yours. Why would someone play tactical game and be frustrated? That someone should play Casualfield only

[odd kestrel]

I just checked one video of HLL, friendly tag mile away, is not milsim

[obsidian vessel]

Thats your opinion, it is a milsim, again what i just said above

drop a casual shooter player in HLL they wont find their way

[odd kestrel]

Its your opinion HLL is milsim

[obsidian vessel]

it factually is

[odd kestrel]

For me is just tactical shooter like OHD now

[obsidian vessel]

squad genres btw

milsims are just the top of the line of "hardcore" in the genre of tactical shooters

[raw egret]

What

[obsidian vessel]

the tactical shooter genre started out first too anyway and this type of game just sprung out of it, which makes it hilarious that some ppl are calling these games "milsim lite" when literally it's all just of the same category and the term milsim (what it has become) just means the most hardcore of them

[raw egret]

Okay uh think there's a misunderstanding in this whole suggestion

[odd kestrel]

But you dont see, is a group of people we dont want killmarkers

[raw egret]

I meant a killfeed where you could see who killed you (only as a name) in a corner or something

or if you killed someone, it would be a diffrent color

[obsidian vessel]

this is sorta an oxymoron tho, you will get these people, the game is massively small atm and still in early access, the only people still around are those extremely dedicated to this and their ideas for this

things will change when this game fully launches and gets a boost of publicity

[odd kestrel]

You dont listen, IS OK TO HAVE IT SO LONG WE CAN DISABLE OR ENABLE ON SERVER

do you need post me my opionion again?

[obsidian vessel]

I'm not talking abt killfeed I'm talking abt subtle audio feedback

killfeed can be a toggleable option yes

tho we already have casualfield for that

[raw egret]

Not giving positions of people

[raw egret]

True true, but still for new players that found the game would make it easier for them

[odd kestrel]

That is the solution, you dont want something, disable - simple

you have causalfield mod

you like it you play, you dont like you not play

[obsidian vessel]

I agree with this sentiment tho, and if you think killfeed is too much for official, then again, just have a subtle/"immersive" way of giving hit feedback like HLL with audio cues

[odd kestrel]

what immersive in that you you kill someone in bushes but you not see him

in real life you need make sure if someone is dead or not

[obsidian vessel]

they wanna make this game big, means it will get a big influx of players, both tactical and casual fans because on steam it's just the "shooter" tag and more importantly, its free

[obsidian vessel]

you can already do that

[obsidian vessel]

well can you currently dead check/kill downed players?

Thats a whole other feature tho

What I'm suggesting is simple, you shoot sm, helmet go ping

[odd kestrel]

You suggestig something what we dont want

If you suggest like a option is fine

[obsidian vessel]

Who is "we" though, it's just you and one other guy

[obsidian vessel]

this just doesnt seem smt worth of toggling off/not having as a base feature

[obsidian vessel]

again many more players of both the casual and tactical world will join this game when it launches and "goes big"

[odd kestrel]

For me it is

[obsidian vessel]

it will need quality of life to keep people interested

[odd kestrel]

the whole point is you want make us happy by force

[obsidian vessel]

both casual and tactical shooters have/had features like this

[odd kestrel]

I dont want, other guy same, why you think we should like it?

[obsidian vessel]

then why play OHD and not like squad or arma?

those are the most hardcore ones

with virtually no feedback or help to gauge anything, you just gotta know and figure out everything

sounds more like what you'd want

[obsidian vessel]

OHD is gonna have to strike a balance if they want it to get as big as they said/expect/want it to be

[odd kestrel]

bye

[raw egret]

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[raw egret]

1 more? cmon😭

[raw egret]

After thinking about this, this would make it easier to vote kick hackers

[obsidian vessel]

yes but also not entirely

[odd kestrel]

How? The game have scoreboard and you can check the K/D ratio over there if you sus someone for cheating.

[obsidian vessel]

I think he means its way clearer to see if someone aimbotted If like in a few seconds a Sniper just gets a bunch of headshot kills filling Up the killfeed in seconds

[odd kestrel]

Still, you can see aimboter, silient killer and EPS on scoreboard, people check that whole time how many kills they did

Do you think people on server will kick a guy because someone get lucky strike kills?

We have seen many times server killers on server with vote kicking and is not working. Surely no admin will set the voting limit too low because people are just having fun with it "I just wanted to check how it works"