#OHD Vehicle Overhaul

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weary lark
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Wtf why is everyone saying this is common now. I have never experienced this

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Did u click on a spawn? Did it not say redeploy

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Sorry deploy

tidal kiln
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Third person gives "wallhacking" advantages, I oppose that

halcyon jewel
jagged spire
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just make a landing camnbkguaBlink

latent iris
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you dont need landing cam when you hit the ground you know you have landed

amber wigeon
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what if you hit the ground at 100mph

latent iris
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no camera would help you at that point

trail thistle
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Hosting a server for a clan war with Vehicle Overhaul we've faced multiple issues with the mod, hence I have the following suggestions:

  • add an optional checkbox in map settings for disabling modded HABs
    They're often being fast-spammed when advancing. Disabling a T menu would highly help
  • make an option of mod autobalance to be actually working
    Since the teams can be uneven, clan wars are spoiled by team members being force switched to opposing team
    We've tried evading this issue by limiting player slots to the amount of the lowest quantity team.
    I.e. 64 > 36 slots

Not related to competitive matches:

  • vehicle claim system
    It would benefit in public matches, since random people often take the vehicles
tidal kiln
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Because meta is very fast blitzkrieg rush with rally + HAB spam. Unless this is restricted, it’s going to remain like that

trail thistle
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Since we successfully managed to play, I don't think it's not. It was enough exciting, as both teams were using blitzkrieg tactics

tidal kiln
trail thistle
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1000 tickets

trail thistle
signal schooner
# tidal kiln Who won and what made them win the most?

I am the CMD of the side they were playing against and I will say this - the equipment and the number of people were decisive. Our 1 squad defended against their 2. By the way, the point was held almost the entire game, while we bypassed and captured all their points. But because the point where the 1 squad was was half surrounded and could not leave this strategically important point, because then all our troops would have been surrounded. We were close to victory, but the STUPID trucks...

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They got stuck every time I wanted to build a hub and because of that we didn't have enough hubs. And our technical team was very inefficient, they didn't understand how to build hubs.

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By the way, the storming of the station turned out like in real life...and in the 1st Chechen war, Russia also lost to Chechnya. We are waiting for the 2nd Chechen war

tidal kiln
signal schooner
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not yoshi transport

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Logistics truck

tidal kiln
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vanilla is rather dry for now, picking Yoshi vehicles only would have been more interesting

signal schooner
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We played with both.

round thistle
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Thats is a two reason why we disabled vanillas vics on loyal servers: 1. They are usless. 2. Vanilla + Yoshi vicd = unplayable rubberbanding.

weary lark
weary lark
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it would be nice to see how the game plays when the players themselves are actually competent

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most public matches people just don't understand or engage with most of the mechanics

signal schooner
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No, I forgot to turn on the recording. But I can tell you how it all happened: at first we acted according to the blitzkrieg tactics, very quickly captured 4 points and had a slight advantage. After that, due to the numerical superiority of the attacking players (as I understand it, they sent everyone to attack and no one to defense), they began to push us. At first, everything was very unstable, the points changed hands. But I took responsibility for building hubs on myself and began to build hubs in relevant points (the squad that was responsible for building hubs played almost by itself, it did not respond to requests). when my troops were able to consolidate their positions at 4 (there was real hell there, according to the stories of those who were there), my squad (assault) moved forward to capture the last points (no one defended them) and we were able to capture ABSOLUTELY all the points (at that time, in the voice channel of my squad, absolutely everyone was screaming with joy. At that moment, we were too early to rejoice, because the squad that, according to my plan, was supposed to move to help hold the last point, simply did not carry out this plan.

signal schooner
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I don't know why the commander of one of my squads plays a game where you really need to work together and have a plan and stick to the plan, although he himself doesn't do all this. I can say in some part he let us down

signal schooner
uneven sky
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ill start rebalancing both of my mods

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(and making two more)

signal schooner
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I thought about it, if it happens I will write

uneven sky
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homelessmage already gave me some balancing info about chechens

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would be glad to hear the same for the russians

signal schooner
# uneven sky ill start rebalancing both of my mods

in fact, the only thing that would be nice to add is some old optics for the Kalashnikov assault rifle. All battles take place without them. But I could not find accurate information on the Internet, and I have never seen sights that were used during the first Chechen war in the OHD

signal schooner
uneven sky
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very nice hearing some feedback and getting back to work because of demand

uneven sky
signal schooner
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I didn't see that it is necessary to add much for Russia, but I can highlight one thing. The Russian squad leader's kit has an AK-74U, which is weaker than the Chechen squad leader's kit weapon.

uneven sky
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i could rework that though

signal schooner
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and it would also be nice to give both factions a sapper kit, because sometimes for tactical reasons a certain section of the road needs to be mined, but there is no such possibility. But this is for the future. In principle, I liked playing with this mod and on the Grozny map, I think someday I will repeat such an event, but I don’t know whether it will be on the same map or not

uneven sky
signal schooner
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Maybe it's worth inviting Yoshi or you to the next one and give you Apollo so you can watch the fight from the side. But this will only work if the server creator agrees

uneven sky
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sure

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and yes, i do speak russian (so you dont have to use the translator if that happens)

signal schooner
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Great

uneven sky
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@weary lark i have a question thats important to me atm
how does RPG7 damage vehicles? because using AT grenades doesnt seem to do anything to them (even if its the shittiest of them all)
you hardcoded them to only be penetrable by RPGs or theres some setting deep in the weapon BP im missing?

weary lark
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If you want a weapon to do damage to the vehicles, the weapon BP needs to have it's weapon type set to Rocket Launcher.

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Theres lots of weird limitations I need to work around and also the fact that none of the vanilla projectiles have any sort of penetration information.

uneven sky
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okay, thanks a lot

round thistle
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Depends how strong server is.

latent iris
open sentinel
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@signal schooner which other group participated in the event against your clan?

onyx nest
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[BAF]

signal schooner
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BAF

exotic trench
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So we have RUC, BAF, and HC now. Interesting...

open sentinel
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Any of these groups interested in picking up an American player like myself?

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im US west coast time zone

weary lark
open sentinel
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idk

exotic trench
# open sentinel idk

Hotel Company is open to newer, English speaking recruits. An invite can be found in⁠ #🔎looking_for_group . If the link has expired, please don't hesitate to dm or @ any of the contacts listed on the recruitment listing. Most of our members are East coast, but we do have some notable outliers and are welcom to all timezones and nationalities.

round thistle
velvet sphinx
minor moat
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If you want Yoshi's FOB, hold T and place it with that

signal schooner
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yes at the moment there are only 2 russian speaking clans: baf and ruc. i wanted to invite baf clan to another fight because it is much more interesting than simple games, but their commander said no

velvet sphinx
minor moat
weary lark
# velvet sphinx Yo we need to fix this bug

Not a bug. The wrench is part of vanilla. It does not work with the modded armored vehicles. If you want team wide spawn points in my mod you need to place them with the T menu.

round thistle
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That was the third reason not to mix vanilla/yoshi mod vehicles, so as not to confuse players.

hybrid sand
round thistle
signal schooner
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Yoshi. Can you please fix the markers on the map, it will make the game in the squad much easier. Sometimes it is impossible to explain where the enemy is, it is for such cases that markers are needed

weary lark
weary lark
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It was a feature before but i removed it needed bugfixes

weary lark
signal schooner
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Thanks

weary lark
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intense tooting

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FARTING IN THE SEX BUS AT NIGHT

round thistle
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Gatoblaster

latent iris
open sentinel
weary lark
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@onyx nest MT-LB has been improved. It SPINS now.

onyx nest
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Finally

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Thank you

latent iris
exotic trench
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Bonk

trail thistle
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We desperately need a claiming system and ability to lock a vehicle, as public matches are as depicted on the screencast

weary lark
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For some of the vehicles i forgot to set oroper size requirements

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Like an suv needed 3 people or something silly like that

halcyon jewel
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@weary lark add it

dull parrot
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But the Fagot is an aircraft-

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Yet it's Anti tank

halcyon jewel
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It’s just a designation it was reused for this AT system

dull parrot
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Ah

exotic trench
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Being honest I do think the addition of something like a TOW launcher or some other fly by wire anti tank mount would be really nice. Might not be the right thread for it tho

round thistle
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@weary lark Baby Gatos update

oak herald
serene hare
weary lark
open sentinel
weary lark
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My children!

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There is news

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Sort of, but not really, but actually it's bad news. Mmm yes.

uneven sky
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mediocre news, alright

weary lark
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I'm helping work on base game stuffs for the next update that is going to come out soon. This means I might not be able to work on the mod during this time.

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So there might not be any mod updates

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At all

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Time will tell

uneven sky
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are you guys working on armed vehicles?

signal schooner
tidal kiln
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It’s good news!

hybrid sand
latent iris
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@hybrid sand soon

ember bloom
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kill the biglearning. kill the biglearning. all for core. all for core.

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down with bugs

ember bloom
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"Issue closed: Could not reproduce"

plain ravine
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MonHanka!

gray raptor
uneven sky
uneven sky
exotic trench
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Dumb idea, but today I learned the US decided to stick a 20mm cannon on the m113
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/M163_VADS

The M163 Vulcan Air Defense System (VADS), officially Gun, Air Defense Artillery, Self-Propelled 20-mm, M163, is a self-propelled anti-aircraft gun (SPAAG) that was primarily used by the United States Army. The M163 provides mobile, short-range air defense protection for ground units against low-flying fixed-wing aircraft and helicopters. It rep...

uneven sky
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anti-air guns on chassis is archaic and not as effective as SAMs

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though they are good against slow, low-flying aircraft (helicopters)

exotic trench
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Applicable in OHD I guess. If there was a smaller caliber MG on it. 20mm would shred but on the paper thin 113 it wouldn't be to hard to counter ig

uneven sky
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a 50 cal on 113 would already shred anything given the fact that there is no heavy-armor vehicle

exotic trench
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No heavy armor? What about LAVs, BTR 60's, and all of them? Didn't Yoshi set most of their armor to take reduced damage from anything under a .50? I'd classify those as heavy. The KA Gator and Apache both have 30mm cannons already.

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I wasn't suggesting to change the 113 either. I've mentioned AA vics before and thought I'd add other application of them. The 113 just needs it's .50 mount protected and it's as balanced as the MTLB. Right now it's only good for ammo resupply which isn't a bad thing outside of inexperienced people using it like a tank

uneven sky
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lav and btr is not heavy armor bro

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btrs are shredded by 50cal

exotic trench
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Heavy is subjective at the moment. I'm fairly certain .50 BMG rounds from a 113s M2 Browning are much, much smaller than the 25mm rounds being fired from the LAV VI's M242 Bushmaster. Yes, MTLBs and 113s get shredded by absolutely anything since they are light APC's, but .50s don't "shred" anything but soft, squishy things like infantry.

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I'd need yoshi to fact check me on what the Stryker is equipped with atm, because the platform is so versatile and I can't remember what it currently has

weary lark
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right now even the attack helicopters will die after < 3 seconds of continuous fire from a .50 BMG or a 14.5mm.

exotic trench
signal schooner
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Brrrrr dead

weary lark
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i would like to up the hull health of all vehicles and add more components that will cripple / destroy the vehicles. also add burning where the hull health will degrade over time. this is how reforger does things and i really like it

weary lark
signal schooner
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(bmp-2m memories)

exotic trench
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I was thinking the same

weary lark
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i remember the BF4 AA gun being used this way

signal schooner
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what else?

exotic trench
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On the Stryker armament topic, I'm pretty sure it's outfit with an M2 Browning right now. The armor boost on the front is probably the only reason it is as effective as it is in game. The .50 doesn't shred, but the fact it has an aggressive playstyle means it usually gets the first shot.

exotic trench
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I thought as much.

signal schooner
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Yoshi, I noticed that 25mm on lav-6 takes a very long time to destroy Ka-52

weary lark
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It's front armor is resistant to 14.5mm. So reduced damage from a BTR-80. Apparently IRL I guess the 14.5mm cannot penetrate the front of a Stryker.

weary lark
signal schooner
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brrrrrr dead

exotic trench
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I think my average shots to kill aircraft with the lav sits around 7-10 (give or take 2 for me not having great memory). Without a tracking system you'll miss a lot of shots too. Maybe even a small 25% dmg boost would be enough.

weary lark
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There is also the high latency / relatively low tick rate of the server (kind of).

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Also the way the projectiles work. With high-speed aircraft you need to lead your shot ahead of where you would normally lead.

signal schooner
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Yoshi, check the general chat

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brrrrr dead

weary lark
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Sometimes you will actually miss on your screen, but it will actually hit on the server.

signal schooner
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I found the original

weary lark
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I know the only opfor vehicle that can completely stop a .50 around from penetrating (and doing damage) is the BMP-2M.

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And that's only from the front on most angles.

signal schooner
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I'm waiting for Bradley

weary lark
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Maybe

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Now that I'm helping with base game, there is even less time for modding.

signal schooner
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what percentage is it ready?

weary lark
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90%

signal schooner
weary lark
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It's Monday right?

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I'll hopefully do an update this week.

signal schooner
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Yes

weary lark
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No promises, I already broke my 3 previous promies lol.

signal schooner
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yes but don't forget that you create mods because of your kindness, it's not your main job

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but at the same time you help people a lot

signal schooner
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🤝

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thanks for your work. if it weren't for your mod I would have abandoned the game an hour after downloading it, without understanding its essence

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I was looking for a game where the vehicle is controlled not by one person but by different people, and I came across your mod. At that moment I called my friend @onyx nest who loves vehicles and showed him this game and he liked it

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oh give this guy some respect
Not everyone can withstand such a meeting in a supermarket, considering the times we live in

amber wigeon
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We all appreciate Yoshi very much

halcyon jewel
jagged spire
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now that yoshi are directly involved on base game stuff

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can you add cat bobble head on every single vics plz?

wet void
jagged spire
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one of this thing

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yea

wet void
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Arm Reforger Vic handling and feel is really good yesplease

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One day in OHD ascend

uneven sky
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we'd be lucky to get armed vehicles first

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not even talking about reforger's vehicle handling

weary lark
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I have the steering handling partially complete. It sort of feels like Reforger, but needs a lot more work.

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The rotation speed of the steering wheel lowers with forward speed, it makes the vehicle harder to drive and stops people from flipping everywhere.

wet void
ember bloom
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"Aright Jim, now just spiral me at the chicken and I'll have us dinner."

signal schooner
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Yoshi, I have a question. The equipment that will be in the basic version of the game, will it completely repeat your mod or will there be changes? Also in the list of new things it says BMP 2, is it BMP 2 or BMP 2m Berezhok?

latent iris
weary lark
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Idk exactly how the guns will work in vanilla

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We will see

signal schooner
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What is DShK Technical

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dshk is a machine gun

uneven sky
weary lark
signal schooner
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Will lav-25 be added or is this a mistake and lav-6 will be added?

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Lav-25

weary lark
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Lav 6 who said lav 25

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Did blue say lav 25

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Fuckin blue

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Cant even get names right

signal schooner
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So, with that said here are the current 🎯 Planned Features for Version 1.0

We intend to have (at minimum) these vehicles in the upcoming update. We feel these official vehicles will cover all the bases for mod-creators to create any other similar type of vehicle that they would like to make for their own modifications:

🚙 Armed Vehicles

  • Up-armored Humvee
  • DShK Technical
  • LAV-25
  • BMP-2
  • Mil Mi-8
  • Sikorsky UH-60 Black Hawk
signal schooner
weary lark
open sentinel
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exotic trench
weary lark
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El gato

signal schooner
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What will be changed in armored transport?

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interface, reticle, anti-tank guided missiles (for BMP2)?

weary lark
signal schooner
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Yoshi alone can do more things than a whole team of developers

uneven sky
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less functionality = easier understanding

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this aint arma

open sentinel
weary lark
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Yo

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I will tickle

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For $5

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hit me up if u want

halcyon jewel
dreamy grove
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.

signal schooner
wet void
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Man the mines were realy fun to use 😂

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to bad Hyrcania is getting reworked for now

uneven sky
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hope we get more vanilla toys to play with

round thistle
tidal kiln
tidal kiln
uneven sky
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well its not really politics but i agree

tidal kiln
uneven sky
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a kid got killed by M113 hatch

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not funny to me

round thistle
tidal kiln
uneven sky
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elaborate

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let me hear your position

tidal kiln
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Vehicle killed human admiring its destruction, while also adhering to patriotism

uneven sky
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a kid got killed by M113 hatch

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in russia

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because its a trophy

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and because of lowered security measures

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not funny

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if you find death funny

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especially CHILD death

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theres something wrong with yoyu

tidal kiln
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While kid was innocent, it’s ridiculous situation

uneven sky
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its not

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its a safety violation

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nothing funny about that

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thats just immature finding death news "funny"

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borderline evil

tidal kiln
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limited sense of humor

uneven sky
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sorry, i guess being mature and not laughing at people dying ridiculous ways is "limited sense of humor"

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my bad for being a person

tidal kiln
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it’s like coming to watch animals die, but then animal eats someone in resistance

uneven sky
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in this current situation the animal was already dead

tidal kiln
uneven sky
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death is not funny

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i get it when people kill themselves to earn darwin awards

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but its not funny anyway

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and im not going to laugh at that

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not anymore, at least

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if you wanna die a funny way then its your thing

tidal kiln
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Moral twist of patriotic parents admiring destruction, and teaching kids to do it, is funny

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they admired suffering and destruction of that vehicle, but in the end it brought the same to them

uneven sky
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to me its just careless parents who let their kids climb a vehicle and get killed by accident

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not funny even with all the historical context

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if you wanna keep arguing that death is funny then no

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just keep that to yourself next time

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not everybody is like you

tidal kiln
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Why they got to exhibition of destroyed vehicles in the first place? See where the epic stuff is?

uneven sky
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they wanted to, and they went to

tidal kiln
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because?

uneven sky
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why ukrainian people go to exhibitions of destroyed russian vehicles

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and put them infront of embassies of russia

tidal kiln
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They stupid or patriotic

uneven sky
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you're asking for a reason in a world where people believe earth is flat

tidal kiln
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would have still been funny if happened on either side

uneven sky
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it wouldnt be funny if it happened on either side

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grow up

tidal kiln
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In the trenches I’m pretty sure this joke is very funny

uneven sky
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i dont care whats in the trenches

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this aint trenches

tidal kiln
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Can’t be so serious when death is close to you

tidal kiln
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you’re just politically projecting

uneven sky
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im just not laughing at people dying because of safety violations

tidal kiln
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it’s because of them admiring destruction

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you get what you attract

serene hare
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it's just not funny, you're weird as shit for thinking so

tidal kiln
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You guys never laugh at death? That’s strange, because in different context pretty sure many would do

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(not war context)

uneven sky
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no

weary lark
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Silence everyone
Change the subject

weary lark
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Ponchovie

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Show bum

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Display

round thistle
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I will make an ad for sale baby gatos, so I'll post some pics here

gray raptor
tidal kiln
gray raptor
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If it were the parents who died, yeah I get it. But the kids on either side are just victims. The 4 year old is a victim of his parents as well

tidal kiln
halcyon jewel
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Yoshi if you can get some camouflages that don’t effect performance so much here’s an idea 🤣

tidal kiln
gray raptor
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Once you have kids, stops being funny instantly

weary lark
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If you run out of that your performance can suffer.

jagged spire
weary lark
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the biscut maker

round thistle
ember bloom
tidal kiln
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RTX sunlight on gato camouflage

weary lark
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what is his name

tidal kiln
weary lark
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lol very cute

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Aren't you Ukrainian?

tidal kiln
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mm yes

weary lark
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Does Ukrainian have the letter W / the sound in it's alphabet?

tidal kiln
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В

weary lark
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Like Russian B, english V?

tidal kiln
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(similar, yes)

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like ru

weary lark
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oh

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so it's Villy (kind of?)

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lol

tidal kiln
weary lark
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ok

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Willy cute name lol

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Have you made any mods? You should enshrine Willy in the mod

tidal kiln
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not yet

weary lark
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Some other Ukrainian dude had a cat named Felix

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You know Pooky (the holy developer) has a cat named Jasmine.

tidal kiln
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If I ever got to it, it would have been map, or even Gato group faction

signal schooner
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Let's go

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Is there any information when the update will be?

uneven sky
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sometime

latent iris
latent iris
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it was made lastnight

frank blade
signal schooner
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Syka blyat

weary lark
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lol

frank blade
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yes

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what a fuck

exotic trench
round thistle
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who want battlefiled 3/4?

ember bloom
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"botnet retribution incoming"

exotic trench
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By 3/4 I meant 3 or 4, not a fraction (although I'll admit. It's funnier that way). Game mechanic wise I'd love to see an open source battlefield esque game. However that doesn't include the battlefield esque community

jagged spire
weary lark
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Willy

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Where is Willy?

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Everyone asks, but not "How is Willy?".

ember bloom
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... didn't they free him back in like 1994?

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ah, 1993, i was close

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taxed wonka

ember bloom
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OP just for my favorite Yoshi_FiveOP

jagged spire
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(WET)

exotic trench
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Wet

amber wigeon
round thistle
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@amber wigeon

round thistle
latent iris
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that your cat ?

round thistle
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@weary lark Wake up!!!

keen cargo
latent iris
tidal kiln
ember bloom
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<is_now_submarine,_da?.png>

exotic trench
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You see Ivan, enemy won't shoot battleship if battleship look already sunk.

amber wigeon
halcyon jewel
exotic trench
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GATO NO-

uneven sky
ember bloom
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first part is, second part is not, cats do not do end over end flips

latent iris
amber wigeon
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Real image

ember bloom
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.......

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holy shit the stormtrooper gnomes are invading the garden of endor

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quick, turn on the hose

amber wigeon
signal schooner
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Yoshi hi

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What about the update

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Bradley

onyx nest
latent iris
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making vics is not easy no point asking for stuff cant be made in a day will take months

signal schooner
latent iris
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im sorry

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but has that got to do with anything

latent iris
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people ask yoshi wen this wen that but nobody ask yoshi how he is

latent iris
signal schooner
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New model for m113 in operation harsh Doorstop

jagged spire
round thistle
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Yoshi is busy with developing vanilla vehicles.

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If you want yoshi back to modding you need support the game.

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🙂

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Meow

exotic trench
round thistle
amber wigeon
round thistle
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This picture is a lie. Gato is flat but not the earth

amber wigeon
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Candy camouflaged with the floor

weary lark
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Awww

round thistle
cosmic sand
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really need to improve the tracked vehicle's torn ability...these things can turn on a dime......I notice that they are abandoned all the time because of this

round thistle
exotic trench
#

Found Gatos in my file storage

serene hare
#

baby is angry cuz I woke her from her nap

weary lark
#

amazing

weary lark
signal schooner
#

hi yoshi

#

what percentage is the update of the main version of the game ready (update from the developers)

latent iris
solar badger
latent iris
uneven sky
#

even back then chihuahuas were hellish abominations

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glad the tradition is strong with these ones

ember bloom
mystic plover
#

When Tanks be added ?

jagged spire
mystic plover
#

Rost razzor do this

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2 years ago

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3d models look almost ready, but the rest is not

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I didn't do that

mystic plover
mystic plover
jagged spire
#

oh

mystic plover
open sentinel
#

I agree, Yoshi when?

jagged spire
#

yoshi when

round thistle
latent iris
empty vapor
#

is there going to be a damage model system similar to war thunder

exotic trench
tidal kiln
latent iris
#

loaf wen @weary lark

weary lark
mystic plover
amber wigeon
gray raptor
exotic trench
uneven sky
#

a bug loaf, thats for sure

gray raptor
latent iris
mystic plover
signal schooner
#

Yoshi

latent iris
tidal kiln
#

Found new bug: sometimes vehicle can get weird state, all exits are blocked, redeploy button grayed out. Idk what happened the Striker was just riding on road.

weary lark
#

Is known

tidal kiln
#

alright

round thistle
#

In that case just change team.

weary lark
#

S P U N K

round thistle
#

S P A N K

signal schooner
#

S P I K E

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Best admin ever

weary lark
#

Amazing

round thistle
uneven sky
#

gatitos

open sentinel
#

Tę koty są bardzo myłe :)))

signal schooner
#

Yoshi

#

ihsoY

mystic plover
amber wigeon
#

(watch)

latent iris
#

(No)

amber wigeon
#

(watch)

#

(bitch)

mystic plover
latent iris
round thistle
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@weary lark Gato, I removed tracked vehicles and the helis seems stop lagging

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Feels nice like on old days

weary lark
#

Amazing

round thistle
#

just sometimes

round thistle
round thistle
#

Terminator Gato

mystic plover
#

What vehicles are you planning to add next?

uneven sky
#

mobility scooter for all the russia-ukraine players

round thistle
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Is it not like russian army issue? If you starting politic here

uneven sky
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sly you're a dumbass

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im not talking about russians or ukrainians

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im talking about people who play them in the game

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the only person starting politics here is you dawg

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go back to playing as BLUFOR 🙏

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(only)

round thistle
uneven sky
#

see? you're the one starting politics and speaking about all russian players

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seems to be the case for ALL polish people

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for shame bro

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unsuprising activities from you SLY

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generally thats all you're doing

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being abnoxious and toxic

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and racist, too

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tell me a reason why you hate russian players so much

round thistle
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you starting and you trying to do it it smat

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Im not blind what are you doing here

uneven sky
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no bro, im just saying people who play ukraine vs russia mods are fat as hell

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and are annoying

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just like you are

round thistle
#

you too

uneven sky
#

i know im annoying

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but i have some common sense

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you dont

round thistle
#

then shout up

uneven sky
#

fuck you sly

round thistle
#

fuck you too

uneven sky
#

i understand why people hate your servers

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shame they're the only ones that are populated

round thistle
#

just few, but this is normal

round thistle
#

English dude

round thistle
#

Just dont try put more politic in any smart way man

uneven sky
#

im not putting politics "any smart way" dude

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you're just crazy about all that political shit

round thistle
#

Yes Im and i can smell yours propaganda

uneven sky
#

apparently all russian people speak only propaganda

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am i right?

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oohhhh putler is good russia is not evil boooo

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propagandingg...

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sorry SLY but the world is not black and white

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and im not THAT kind of person

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i dont have any interest in being actively pro-russian outside of being A russian

round thistle
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Fine then

uneven sky
#

glad we came to a peaceful conclusion

round thistle
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Im pacefull dude, you talking about people hate some server, is theirs fault if they dont listen.

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If they ignoring what we told them and comming here to cry is only thiers fault

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Servers are pupulated because we ban cheaters and idiots

uneven sky
#

i dont really care about people getting banned, but they both keep saying that they got banned "unreasonably" and for seemingly nothing

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and they dont get answered why they got banned

round thistle
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Don't judge if you don't know something

uneven sky
#

i know as much as these two know

round thistle
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Then leave alone servers owners becuase that is not your buissnes

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right?

uneven sky
#

no? i have a right to speak about injustice

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thats what free speech is for, right?

round thistle
#

how do you know if there is so no injustice man?

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if you dont know keep you mouth shout

uneven sky
#

i want to know why tynda and azrael got banned

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because even they dont know

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and they are the ones who got banned

round thistle
#

they just play dumb here

uneven sky
#

whats "play dumb"

round thistle
#

do you think banned guy is going to tell what he did

uneven sky
#

azrael found a HAB and got caught spawncamping it, then he stopped but got banned anyhow

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i guess tynda did the same

round thistle
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Is not that reason he got ban

uneven sky
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i dont see how "playing dumb" could get a person banned

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or i just dont understand what you're trying to say

round thistle
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If you don't know what happened, just don't say anything

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you are not part of it

uneven sky
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they are, but they didnt get answered why they got banned

round thistle
#

Why I should even tell then if they doing something what I told them to stop

uneven sky
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because they said they stopped?

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if they didnt then sure, their fault

round thistle
#

no, they know

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we not banning people for nothing

uneven sky
#

i see

#

well, godspeed then

#

ill go and make mods

round thistle
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so if you don't know then don't talk and stop being annoying and everything will be ok between us

uneven sky
#

everything is far from OK between us 💔

round thistle
#

then just stay away

uneven sky
#

no

round thistle
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If you dont know something don't interfere

uneven sky
round thistle
#

Yes, love you too

bold gulch
#

and I you😘

latent iris
#

can you all stop bitching here please take it somewhere else

amber wigeon
#

@bold gulch we cannot read what you're saying. Type in English or your messages will get deleted and you'll be muted

bold gulch
#

You don't have to read it, anyone who wants to will understand. For some reason, I have to use a translator.

amber wigeon
#

We are moderators of this discord and will only allow English to be typed. Read #🚨rules_and_info

bold gulch
#

Normalno? Am I right in understanding that this does not apply to Russian chat?

amber wigeon
#

Type in the English language

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Not Russian words with the English alphabet

latent iris
exotic trench
#

Question for either Yoshi or anyone who has run the Vehichle Overhaul mod on a public server recently.

At what point, when combined with Ponchovies ODS mod and without vanilla vehicles does the server become unstable (major lag/ rubber banding). What vehicles would you suggest not spawning in.

round thistle
#

but this is depends how strong cpu you have and how many slots you want to have

exotic trench
#

Noted. Thank you for the input

round thistle
#

but the rubberbanding tend to present over 50 slots

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but also, depends of the rig

exotic trench
#

I doubt we'll have that many present. Ill get details soon

round thistle
#

I recommend a higher CPU clock speed than cores number

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if this is something like "100" cores with 2-3 Ghz is not make the server run better

#

that kind of hosting is for web/cloud not fot UE4 game engine

ember bloom
#

look for something north of 4.3Ghz and less than 12 cores.

exotic trench
#

Thanks

round thistle
#

if you have trouble getting up and running the mod let me know

#

Yoshi is kind of busy

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and lets stay him busy on developing vanilla stuff

ember bloom
#

also do note that voip usage contributes to the rubberbanging.

#

(and seems to historically cause the most problems between 50 to 90 slots)

round thistle
#

I dont know if this is true, I only heard the entire voice bandwidth is going true the server and no matter if you talking or not, if people talking far away from you this is just muted on client side

#

Im sure you know more about.

ember bloom
#

yeah, the voice channel is opened per-user, if it's used or not.

round thistle
#

this is fixable or we have to deal with that so long OHD will be exist?

ember bloom
#

no idea

#

i mean "fixable" could be attacked from many angles

#

the simplest would be silence identification and suppression

#

as far as I know it's a C++ component, but I'm very unfamiliar with the codebase at that level.

#

and our networking layer is, kindly, a massive clusterfuck that barely works

#

we don't do steam networking right, we don't do classical networking right, it's all a big hodgepodge of fuckery

#

and it's no shade on donkey either, because networking is nightmarishly tough to get right "globally"

#

point 1: if we were doing steam networking right, "we shouldn't even need to listen on port 7777"

round thistle
ember bloom
#

point 2: if we were doing classical networking right, "we shouldn't need steam authentication"

#

it's because those two have been criscrossed that we have a clusterfuck of "works for some, not for others"

#

there's just enough steam involvement to validate IDs

#

but not enough to really make use of steam's peer to peer system

round thistle
ember bloom
#

so no steam invites, no lobbys, no groups

#

all of which generally use steam's peer to peer network not for peer to peer but for client to server.

#

solving the "i wanna press a button and host" problem

#

so realistically what we've ended up with is, classical networking on :7777 that jimmies a bit of data out of steamapi to determine if you're banned or not.

#

so we have all the hassles of portforwarding to deal with

#

that said, it's easy to point out the knot, but not so easy to explain how to untangle it

round thistle
#

as far as I know about networks, I understand what you are writing, but I won't even try to go deeper

ember bloom
#

yeah, exactly, it's a prickly cactus desert anywhere deeper than the surface level I've enumerated.

#

i'm only passably familiar with steamnetworking via reading their documentation

#

but it's clear we're not making use of Steam Datagram Relay very well at all.

#

Steam Datagram Relay is a service for relaying your game traffic over the Valve backbone. This prevents IP addresses from being revealed and in many cases improves ping times and connection quality. All P2P connections are automatically relayed over the Valve backbone when appropriate. This document describes what you need to do if you want to use SDR for dedicated server games, to optimize ping times and protect servers from DoS attack.

round thistle
#

Im familiar with networking in general but not going to dive in to low level layers.

ember bloom
#

i know what valve has described at a high level -- but as far as the low level code primitives, I'm relatively clueless.

round thistle
#

To deal with it and fully understand it would have to start from a young age

ember bloom
#

(otherwise I probably would have just said fuck it and gone and done it myself long ago)

#

part of it is also due to wanting to make a game that lasts, and isn't dependant on third party services for much.

#

many of us still recall gamespy's collapse

#

the only fortunate thing there was they had stuck with very simple to replicate services, or just mapped onto standard services entirely (such as relying on IRC servers and protocol for their custom ingame chat clients)

round thistle
#

remember gamespy but no idea what happen with that

ember bloom
#

they faceplanted with finances

#

"lots of funding and support" until they didn't

#

they quickly shut their doors and then a whole generation of games was left without functional multiplayer for a few years, until gamespy emulators showed up

#

all of them mostly small and game-specific

round thistle
#

just read it

ember bloom
#

many of valves services are also very simple in nature

#

and the only complexity of replication would be the certificate chains

#

valve takes 30% in sales, but what they give back for that is huge. A very large, world wide distribution network, and a tremendous number of bandwidth sucking peer to peer relays

#

they outright own a lot of that hardware capital in datacenters all over

#

not renting cloud vms and shit from cramazon, glooble, and miscrosorft.

round thistle
#

true but kind of mmonopoly which is also not good

ember bloom
#

they're not a monopoly, lmfao

round thistle
#

"kind of"

ember bloom
#

not until gog, greenman, epic, blizzard, activision, ubisoft and several others shut down

#

gog galaxy, epic launcher, battle.net, origin launcher, uplay...

#

even if they're crap, they're still competion in the court's eyes

round thistle
#

I meant that others can't try harder.

ember bloom
#

there's no way a monopoly charge would succeed

#

but even amazon got shot to the curb

round thistle
#

But is nice to see some games are on different places

ember bloom
#

people are choosing steam out of the list of competition.

ember bloom
#

why do i have to authenticate with battle.net just to play a diablo 2 remake?

#

why isn't it on gog and epic too?

#

becuse blizactivmicrosoft is greedy

round thistle
#

well, if we talk about singleplayer games, my legs are always on gog direction

ember bloom
#

how come steam isn't?

#

why can i go for fucking months without a hassle in steam, while these other services are fumbling over themselves?

#

i don't even get spam on steam anymore since getting rid of the offending games on my profile

round thistle
#

I'm totally lost with all these logins everywhere

ember bloom
#

yeah, I fucking love that steam solved that for most things

#

i want to play elite dangerous? Steam's ED launcher knows who i am already

round thistle
#

I remember when you had one email for everything and everything was fine

ember bloom
#

from your ISP

round thistle
#

sorry two mails, one for shitty things

ember bloom
#

i've had gmail for 21 years now

#

and google is responsible for about 80% of the origination or destination of emails today

round thistle
#

I dont remember when I got my

#

it was by invitation only

ember bloom
#

same, roughly as old as my steam account

#

which was when you had to create a steam account using a valve key

#

(i used halflife platinum)

#

i love that it's been twenty years and valve has never tried to charge me a dime that I havn't asked for

round thistle
#

today you have to login just to read something

#

is not even paywall

#

sick

ember bloom
#

i hate how the big news sources have done that. Give you the first few sentences and then when you scroll down "haha fuck you, just kidding, you thought you were going to get the article, but it was ME, DIO LOGIN!"

round thistle
#

cant even use your smarphone without login

#

need a simple app, login

ember bloom
#

'omg plz login with ur twitter account'

#

now so many of them are broken with the x.com domain idiocy

round thistle
#

I called X idiocy

ember bloom
#

their devs have long since fucked off and forgotten about their sites

round thistle
#

how you can name a servis with one letter

ember bloom
#

that was his dream

#

X, the anything service

round thistle
#

ohh X dude

#

gonna start call him like that

ember bloom
#

soon it will be all he has left

#

some other service will swoop in and steal all the users

round thistle
#

it was nice try with this politic

ember bloom
#

and it will become another myspace

round thistle
#

x dude try i mean

ember bloom
#

this was honestly the most hilarious shit i had seen all month

round thistle
#

zuckerman is new elon now

latent iris
#

take to off topic

round thistle
#

hello, we just posting and waiting for you 😉

latent iris
#

@ember bloom you should know better KEKW

round thistle
#

is a hidden offtopic so long yoshi is busy

ember bloom
#

oh hell no, they'd hang me for posting shit there. You mean take it to #💬wiki

latent iris
#

lol

round thistle
#

we not talk about politic, is about business

#

x dude, zuckerman

latent iris
#

what has any of this to do with vics

round thistle
#

x-vics

ember bloom
#

plz yoshi giv tesla model 3 so i can set on fire plz

#

also can u make model x gullwing dors flap like birdie plzkthxbai

#

also u can set tehm 2 german ww2 faction cuz kanye and x man are on little moustache man's lap

round thistle
#

I've already said to put Tesla in the game and ask X-Man for money

weary lark
#

gato mobile wen?

round thistle
#

oooo ,gato is back

round thistle
#

meow

latent iris
round thistle
#

this one is for you gato

ember bloom
round thistle
#

got a stroke?

ember bloom
#

no wait that was the byds from china

#

Buy Your Death

#

Burns Your Daughters

ember bloom
#

l0l0l0l0l0l0l0l0l0l

round thistle
#

ohh that

ember bloom
#

bc i am l33t

round thistle
#

and all the hack nics on steam

ember bloom
#

honestly the whole feud this week had me thinking about n00b teams

#
#

Since noobs are basically ignorant bastards, they have a lot in common. The most often seen characteristic is their fluency in noobish, which is why it got its own section. They will also be very self confident as if they were the absolute best at what they are in fact the worst at. Also, they are quite aggressive and self-centered, and tend to laugh a lot using many L's and O's in rapid succession (the noobish word for laughing like an ultimate retard).

It is their instinct to assemble in packs for defence, and they often attempt to organize packs that they call teams. Unfortunately for them, teams usually result in a total loss of communication and they can often begin to fight amongst each other. These teams are quite unlike those formed by non-noobs.

Noobs have difficulty reading English and cannot comprehend the idea of authority.

Therefore, they have an all-out disregard for rules, basic or not. A good way to identify a noob (bad) vs. a newb (good) is to tell them (or have an authority tell them) which rule they are unknowingly breaking. If they respond with an apology and fix it, they are probably not a noob. If they react by insulting everything around them in rapid noobish and causing general mayhem, it is because they are a noob and have had a small seizure due to their inability to understand what is happening.

latent iris
ember bloom
#

doesn't that last part sound so much like x man's recent spergout?

#

(which he's now deleted, like a petulant child)

round thistle
#

How to write "we are anonymous" in noob text?

ember bloom
#

anonymous is legion. never forgive, never forget.

#

^ just copy and paste that about a million times into random youtube comments

#

it was their catchphrase

round thistle
#

or "Im hacker now"

ember bloom
#

bro you just gave me the hardest laugh i've had in weeks, just thinking of the brazillan invasion of IRC in the 90s...

am brazil

round thistle
#

does anyone still use "script kiddies" or they all hackers today

ember bloom
#

script kiddie is still the general term towards the unintellectuals who can only bash the tools

#

hacker generally refers to someone whom hacks

round thistle
#

I always wonder when a cheater turns into a hacker

ember bloom
#

(hack, (20xx), to learn/research more about, investigate in depth, comprehend)

#

there's been a long division between hacker and cracker

#

and it's cracker that has fallen out of phase

round thistle
#

I know, I had long pause of gaming and before that pause everyone says cheater

#

now is hacker

ember bloom
#

the media removed the divide between the two concepts

round thistle
#

with Kenny we just call them now Fuckers

ember bloom
#

anyway, we're wayy into offtopic bounds now so, time to clear the channel

round thistle
#

yeah

ember bloom
#

tips hat

#

m'trilby.

round thistle
#

Gato mod on

ember bloom
#

cough

round thistle
round thistle
round thistle
#

I even know which song he's listening to

ember bloom
round thistle
#

yep

mystic plover
empty vapor
ember bloom
exotic trench
#

Question: how server stable are the MRAP and BDRM? I've never seen them active in any servers and not sure if its just a "people don't like them" or a "it crashes the game" problem.

weary lark
#

People don't like them

#

There aren't any vehicles that are going to crash the game

exotic trench
#

👍

#

Thanks!

halcyon jewel
#

Yoshi when

tidal kiln
#

hunks

round thistle
amber wigeon
#

Does the map list settings on Apollo automatically update when maps have been added/removed and after server restart?

#

@weary lark

latent iris
weary lark
#

The Apollo saves should persist any server restarts. If a map doesn't have an explicit save file, then one will be created on startup with all settings defaulted.

round thistle
signal schooner
#

@weary lark Can you please bring back the kamikaze drones?

latent iris
signal schooner
#

Why are you so angry towards me?

#

funny

latent iris
#

im not being angry towards you

#

drones are the last thing we need right now

#

one week people want planes next tanks then drones next it will be icbm

signal schooner
#

I even saw a video on YouTube from a year ago but I can't find it anymore

latent iris
#

someone recently made a drone mod iirc look in #🏆show-and-tell

grave nest
grave nest
#

you can't even get out of the vehicle once you get in. It says "no possible exits" or something like that

exotic trench
weary lark
exotic trench
signal schooner
#

yoshi cat sigma

halcyon jewel
#

Anti - there

signal schooner
#

lav-6 and bmp-2 best anti-air🔥

lime zodiac
weary lark
signal schooner
#

Yoshi, as a developer, do you know the approximate date of the update?

open sentinel
#

haha

pearl phoenix
round thistle
#

yes, gatolazer mother ship

#

but the most is missing, gato factions

wintry whale
#

can i spawn a heli in solo mode?

amber wigeon
#

Yes F(number) keys @wintry whale

ember bloom
#

open Apollo with Home, press R to unlock the mouse cursor, then move your cursor to the "spawn vehicles" menu entry, click it, a dialog will pop up with two dropdowns -- the vehicle you want, and which team to spawn it for. Make sure you've selected the team you're on.

wintry whale
wintry whale
ember bloom
#

fkeys are vanilla, apollo menus are for this workshop mod.

wintry whale
ember bloom
#

shrug

#

whatever map you'd like? i dunno what to tell you, dude

wintry whale
#

nothing happens

#

i try home and R nothing shows up

wintry whale
wintry whale
ember bloom
#

are you using the OHD Vehicle Overhaul gamemode?

wintry whale
ember bloom
#

Are you subscribed to it?

wintry whale
#

lemme recheck i think so

wintry whale
#

thank you

gray raptor
round thistle
bronze bear
#

@weary lark do u plan on making it so ais can use apcs and heli in singleplayer its a key missing fundemental

weary lark
round thistle
#

I think he is asking if OHD bots can use vics

bronze bear
#

make it so ai use the vehicles for transport bro

#

with the ris mod in arma they use vehicles so its possible here

round thistle
#

@weary lark

bronze bear
#

@weary lark yo?

ember bloom
#

Yoshi can't do that till the devs finish vanilla vehicles' integration.

#

Keep in mind, this mod launched in may 2023.

#

Vanilla AI should be able to mount vehicles quite soon though. Not sure if it's going to be in the next update coming in a few days (which will probably break all the mods again)

#

They still won't be able to drive, but at least they'll enter and exit.

#

"Are you planning on it?" yes. As soon as the game code supports it.

#

There's no giant company behind this game; just a youtuber who got sick of being jerked around by squad, and the buddies he made along the way.

#

Progress is slow cause none of us are professional-grade.

bronze bear
#

okok

trail thistle
#

Does this option actally work?
I'm currently testing this and it seems the abandoned vehicle doesn't despawn

#

And yes, I made sure it's far enough in the outskirts of any objectives

round thistle
trail thistle
#

So what's the approximate ratio?

#

Or the time setting isn't being invoked at all

round thistle
#

You need also change the damage scaling

#

0.06

round thistle
trail thistle
#

They do but the timers are long there
So that means that the timer argument is either not setting the value and the timer is hardcoded or the timer has a ratio/multiplier?

round thistle
#

Im not sure if the unoccupied is working

#

I noticed if people leave the vehicles on gear driving position they ingoring the recyle logic

trail thistle
#

That's confusing, why would an occupied vehicle recycle? If unoccupied vehicles do not despawn what's the point of recycling options?

round thistle
#

beacuse so many people dont know how to unflip them I guess

trail thistle
#

So what I've done: set the args above on the screenshot, moved the vic on the border of the map and waited for 10 minutes, it didn't despawn

#

It's either not working or/and the options are misleading

round thistle
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did you reloaded the map after settings change?

trail thistle
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Yes

round thistle
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well, then must be bugged something

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did you drive the vehivle`?

trail thistle
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Nope

round thistle
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or just you teleported them in apollo

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I think the recycle logic get triggered after you move the vehicle once

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like 1m or something

trail thistle
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Yes, you're kinda right

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It triggers only if a player starts the engine once

round thistle
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it was like that before last update

trail thistle
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Then even if the vehicle engine is off it despawns hitting the timer

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The timer was correct, I've just tested 30 seconds and it despawned in 30 secs

round thistle
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not sure if is related to engine on

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It happens when people leave the vehices and they are stuck but the drive is on

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most common with tracked vics

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because many people dont care them, everyone want stryker or btr

weary lark
trail thistle
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Gotcha, cheers

halcyon jewel
weary lark
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El gato

round thistle
ember bloom
wintry whale
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@weary lark Helis got removed or the mod version isn't working with the new update so any updates on when the mod will be updated or when will we get to see helis back in the game?

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@ember bloom is vanilla vehicle integration added now?