OHD Vehicle Overhaul

[ember bloom]

if the admin hits X, the spawn doesn't happen, if they hit checkbox, it spawns

[shut echo]

Wait you mean just heli spawns not inf/soldier spawn's, jeez my thought?

[ember bloom]

there's already a checkbox to prevent this

if "Spawn Vehicles" is not enabled, they do not spawn at the flags, I believe

(the land vehicles)

but are still spawnable by keypress

if that became a 'request' keypress, it could be nice to keep server performance up without a bunch of empty vehicles in the server's loop

that generally means only in use vehicles are consuming server time

[shut echo]

Mate you confused me(or im a hidiot and forgot we were "talking about "vehicles)

[ember bloom]

My server is not as performant as others *(E5-2670V2, ~3.4Ghz turbo)

okay, so right now, there's two versions of the mod

the release version has spawn keys disabled or they don't exist yet

the preview version has PgDwn, Home, and F5 for spawns, anyone can spawn a vehicle, but only a leader of a squad can claim one upon first entry

unless population is under the threshold

then you don't need to be leader of a squad

[shut echo]

Yeah i know that( also F1 and F3( i think) for IFV'S) mate

[ember bloom]

oh, didn't know that, thanks

but yeah, I like the ability to spawn things moreso because yoshi made vehicles spawn-on-able

with just a FEW mechanism tweaks, people can use those tools to play a ton of different ways

from denying RP spawning to promoting arcade spawning

SL pops down a IFV and everyone spawns on it (for now, till FOB construction is in vanilla and everything changes lol)

[shut echo]

Yeah but what would be better just the admin requestees or also Base flag spawns (bcs not sure if admin could be present all timez), hmmm?

[ember bloom]

bots won't yet :/

yeah, exactly, and for my server, I want to disable base spawns

but i still want to let people play with vehicles

[shut echo]

So instant key spawns?

[ember bloom]

so what I would want, would be
Player Bob hits PgDwn, gets a message up on his screen ("Requested Aircraft Delivery") with the timer ticking down

in the map settings, there'd be the default timeout

we'll say 30 seconds

no admin reponse? apache spawns after 30 sec delay

admin responds positive? immedaite spawn when admin clicks ✅

[shut echo]

Yeah if admin could stay "always in"?

[ember bloom]

admin responds negative? another message pops up with a shorter timer, " ❌ Commander declined delivery"

and the spawn never happens

so IF an admin is there, they can prevent people, if an admin is away, there's a settable delay to keep people from spamming them out

[shut echo]

Okay makes sense

[ember bloom]

that would be how I would leave my "flight school" server

so the land vehicles are not consuming server time that could be used for stupid pilot tricks

ideally there would be two additional checkboxes

"allow land vehicles"
"allow aircraft"

and I'd just uncheckmark allow land vehicles

note, I am deliberately proposing this method to keep the workload as minimal as possible.

"things yosshi has already done" are easily repeatable as long as he remembers how (or periodically refreshes his memory)

and we can see he's already got the global checkboxes in place

kami requests some slightly more fine grained checkboxes.

there's probably a billion better ways of doing it, but I am more concerned with keeping things simple for yoshi

proposing things I know he can accomplish in an hour or two

(because he's already demonstrated doing 80-90% of the underlying work to support my requests already)

anyway, as for the laser receiver prop; I'd think that two tags receivers for now would be sufficient -- V0 that doesn't take any additional parameters, and V1 that carries a signature notification along with it (You were locked on by a sidewinder/aamaraam/CWIS)

"older" mods can continue using the V0 variant while more advanced ones can use the V1 tag to be more descriptive.

At some point if you decide those two aren't enough, you add a V2 that takes the parameters you missed in V1

V0 is "an unidentified event caused this" while V1 is "an identified event caused this"

no real way to tell modders the difference besides documenting it or having some link to a convo like this somewhere lol

It may also end up to be the V0 style is better for performance and in more general cases

since in theory, it's never applying any damage to an actor, therefore should never be able to generate a kill to be able to be needing to be identified by a killfeed widget

[weary lark]

Ya I def wanna add more fine-grained controls to apollo.

[weary lark]

steam guides

[ember bloom]

true

[weary lark]

i will use steam guides to document all this stuffs

[ember bloom]

and then just stuff a link to the guide into the description, yeah.

[weary lark]

in addition to all the stuff yo u listed, and in addition i wanna add a hard limit on the amount of helis that can be spawned per team

like 1 per team or something idk

so you either have transport or you give it up for attack

attack boi

[ember bloom]

another inputbox for it, like the current cap of 11, in my screenshots?

[weary lark]

ye

all the input boxes

[ember bloom]

nods yeah, then you can set up scenarios like you were implying

or at least the beginnings of it

scratches chin

is there an easy/reasonable way for you to let a player scoop bots up into the IFVs even if they can't aim and shoot from the turrets, and then flush them out again?

It would be quite nice if that could kick them into your squad *(since you have to be a leader to even claim a vehicle)

there's no other way to do so besides console commands, removing and readding bots once people are leading squads

[weary lark]

ya i have really wanted to improve the bot-vehicle interaction

very lacking rn

kind of makes pve just shooting fish in a barrel

[ember bloom]

even just being able to tote them around like turrets is useful

and can open up new avenues of play, simply

[weary lark]

ye

I have AI that can drive and shoot vehicles

It's just the nav mesh on most maps is not setup properly

[ember bloom]

good start; is it a separate tree? Just disables the infantry tree and takes over till they're spit out?

[weary lark]

idk

oh

no it's my own BP ai I made

[ember bloom]

or "pilotless" right now?

[weary lark]

very simple doesn't even have behaviour trees

[ember bloom]

as in, doesn't need a actor driving

[weary lark]

no i mean there is an AI controller

[ember bloom]

yeah, okay, simplest way for now,

[weary lark]

but it doesn't use behaviour trees or blackboards

just blueprint logic on various timers

[ember bloom]

right, but it's not attached to the humanoid pawn or any relation to it's existence or not

[weary lark]

right

only for vic

[ember bloom]

so it just scoops a bot up, and turns off AI processing for it, were a bot to 'attempt' to enter a vehicle

then they're a completely passive passenger with regard to AI processing until they're kicked back out

yeah?

(i understand if you havn't adventured into the 'toggle infantry AI' part yet)

[weary lark]

no the AI i made for the vics is just for driving and shooting, no relation to infantry

[ember bloom]

yes, but are you turning them off when they become passengers? (you should)

[weary lark]

no bots cannot enter vics

[ember bloom]

yet

when they can, what's the plan to suppress them wanting to process movetowards-goal?

"shut up, i'm driving" mode...

if they don't have a connection to a navmesh or it's broken somehow, they just stand there doing nothing

[weary lark]

prob either adding to the existing AI system, and having some goal or something that gets used instead of the default go-to-flag.
or just killing the normal AI controller, and replacing it with a new one. And when the bots exit they use a different controler

[ember bloom]

because you're effectively respawning them when they exit?

so right now the idea is 'they are destroyed on entry' and 'reconstituted' on exit

"here, you're a new bot with the same name"

am I following correctly?

i'm just trying to work out the "bot wants to sit in a vehicle" flowchart in my head.

then your driving BP takes over (work already done, as mentioned)

checkbox for driving BP goes ✅ , checkbox for infrantry AI goes ❌

was how i thought it'd go in my head

also would be useful to place and recall spawn positions via apollo, and be able to control that infantry AI state at spawn... Then you can place immobile guards "somehow", that's probably the simplest way for you to do ^

like, in addition to the ones baked into the map

stash them in the .sav files

the only thing remaining would be some way of triggering the infantry AI out of the 'standing still because I have nowhere to navigate' back into full-operation

then you have your basics of doom-style enemy placement scenarios

some kind of trigger-cube that unfucks their brain and/or hurts them for 1 point of damage just to set them against the player

as I'm pretty sure even bots that can't find their navmesh will still return fire if they catch someone in their vision cone (i've seen it on the airsoft maps) or if they can sense their cause of pain

[weary lark]

Ya this was one of the reasons i made apollo. i already have some of the stuff ready for editing vehicle spawns as well as which vehicles will spawn on a per-map bassis

[ember bloom]

don't forget being able to set infantry spawns too (or generically)

having a Placable for it early, even if it's not usable, would be benficial

i'm pretty damn sure singleplayer would function just fine if you had 140 infantry bots placed in a level with them mostly deaf dumb and blind until some triggervolume was entered.

be interesting TAB view (lol)

and like I was implying before, being able to trigger the AddNamedBot blueprint path would be SUPER helpful

[weary lark]

yos

with the apollo stuff and all the vehicles, i wanna make some sort of basic singleplayer mission boi

cuz rn espeicall ythe attack helis are too early for the rest of the game

maps are too small, they also kill server performance,t etc

[ember bloom]

yeah, hence why i think trying to figure out some trigger volume fuckery would be a good idea

my guess is it should be able to call stuff on anything within it's volume just based on how unreal colliders work

and I'm pretty sure each of the bot Actors has a variable that can cause them to stay still

so in theory, just placing down a couple halfdomes/spheres/cubes with the trigger blueprints assigned to them, should be able to 'halt' bots inside them until a player invades the collision zone and then enable them and possibly even destroy itself once they've been 'awakened'

the harder part is the retooling to apollo to abuse the 'move' effect to place a prop that wasn't in the level before, and remember where it was placed

it'd need some more keybinds to be able to 'place on top of nearest surface to the origin' and at the VERY least, rotate them to compass positions (*disregarding global quaternion rotation)

Should also consider some constraints on Apollo so it can be used by players (not just admins)

one thing I'd consider for that is, representing the apollo camera with a quadcopter drone model

and just limiting it's range if you're not an admin

plus providing the ability for an admin to remove their humanoid pawn and become a spectator via the visible drone (maybe paint it brightly to indicate it's an admin watching)

Studies indicate people behave differently when they know they're being watched vs just guessing they're being watched.

so a hide/show drone option (admin only) would work out there

also, a typo reminder, "exit APOLLO" button's tooltip still says Exit THOR

... I wonder... Trigger volumes can cause pain already, used for things like barbed wire being ouchy... And 0 damage still gets a bot's attention... I wonder if this could be exploited to allow for a poor-man's toolgun, change fire modes to set;clear bot variables?

hell, i mean, it's generally applicable with a selection of projectiles

there shouldn't be any reason i can't shoot a bot to change it's mind

that can probably be exploited via apollo too? same toolgun idea, no visible prop.

... tooldrone... heh

be a hassle to change through a bunch of menu items with fireselect, but that's probably the dumbest, simplest idea that could work and doable in hours, not days or weeks.

but in theory, if you are "view"ing a bot with apollo you're in third person view behind them, so the apollo camera should be able to 'shoot them in the back' with a mind-changing projectile.

I'd start with that and get a basic bot 'navigate/stop' addition to apollo's menu

once you had a few sneaky projectiles like that, then i'd think about the toolgun concept, visible or not

the next thing I'd add after that would be a remove ammo/restore ammo button, so they will aim at things but won't shoot.

and the one after that would 'blind' them so even if they had ammo they wouldn't see anyone or anything and just stand still, occasionally turning in place...

then i'd think about some kind of 'stop thinking entirely, you're now a mannequin' toggle

"I skip my turn and all mental processing along with it"

all of those things should already in theory, be possible with what the SDK already delivers

just that shortlist of things already gives you "damn-near-doom1" abilities to singleplayer things up by making useful multiplayer "hacks"

Doom1 has monsters either Awake or Asleep (skipping turns entirely), has "Deaf" and "Blind" flags, and can have their Infinite Ammo toggled and ammo counts cleared or set. Along with a set of trigger linedefs (collision volumes in unreal terms).

and I know from my own SDK lookings that the bots have an InfiniteAmmo flag that is (currently) normally enabled

and that it's settable per-actor (but nothing I know of toggles it during runtime)

the last thing I'd think about for multiplayer uses would be a 'pain proxy', sample a player with the toolgun/apollo, then shoot a bot with it to cause them to trigger against that player

"7-days-to-singleplayer", exemplified... 😄

(also, something else I noted from king of the zone -- in theory, apollo should be able to forcibly rekit a player, including to faction definitions that aren't blufor/opfor, king of the zone abuses this idea for six 'team colors' and ignores the opfor/blufor factions?)

it should be workable as long as the rekit is from a faction loadable by both the server and the client (and UGC from the server ends up asking the client to install any additional expanded factions)

I would assume that means you could abuse that to rekit an admin with a toolgun-equipped faction mid-match.

but can't verify that, of course.

I think that means that in theory you could rekit any bot with any loaded faction kit, but again have no way to confirm that, but DAMN would that be cool as fuck as an open possibility to explore.

boop you're a russian now.

"but i don't want to be..."

And with that, all the nessicary tools for a bunch of idiots to RP are complete.

just missing emotes... lol

[round thistle]

Traitor

[jagged spire]

dude just played A3 and immediately got as called a traitor 🥲

[round thistle]

Yes, you are not allowed play any other games, only OHD. lol

[ember bloom]

You are accused of anti-anti-soviet behavior.
My middle finger finds you guilty, and sentences you to copulate with yourself.

[ashen ravine]

In other words

[ember bloom]

Absolutely nothing, Carry on.

[ashen ravine]

"You are accused of soviet behavior, our f-16 are on the way to deliver you some democracy"

[ember bloom]

Democracy delivered

[ashen ravine]

"8 kilotons of democracy delivered!"

[ember bloom]

laser finger designator engaged

[round thistle]

Yes, one man democracy

[ashen ravine]

Bro switched to point aim💀

Meanwhile that grip handle is like

"Why am I here? Just to suffer..?"

[ashen ravine]

@weary lark
Hey dude

Is Al Dhakir mod installed on the server?

[weary lark]

yes

[ashen ravine]

Can we temporary disable it due to the lag.
Or, at least, skip this map. Please

[olive moss]

no

[latent iris]

needs updated

[olive moss]

so its true ohd overhaul is canceled

😔

[ashen ravine]

No

[latent iris]

[ashen ravine]

Proof

?

[latent iris]

yoshi told me

we have overplayed the mod

[ashen ravine]

Well, Yoshi told us "update is delayed by a month for no particular reason" then released the update anyway

Also I was talking to Yoshi today

While he was plsying Arma 3

[latent iris]

mofo is cheating on us

[ashen ravine]

He was talking about implementing sound missile warnings and auto-ranging changes

So i doubt that

You just probably got pranked

[latent iris]

https://tenor.com/view/joke-dumb-you-gif-8906255

[chilly dragon]

[ashen ravine]

Yes

[round thistle]

Is no lag, buy a PC with GPU. lol

[ashen ravine]

Yeah yeah

[latent iris]

kind of pc you got ?

[ashen ravine]

Laptop 💀

[latent iris]

lol

newish or old

[ashen ravine]

It is indeed, lol

Lots Of Lag

[latent iris]

lol i thought i was doing bad with a 980

[ashen ravine]

Guess Ill just have to miss Al Drakhir map

[latent iris]

sly you able to restart playtest server ?

[round thistle]

The server is tired and is resting.

[ashen ravine]

aaaw

Slep time

[latent iris]

it was sleeping yesterday

[round thistle]

He hasn't had enough sleep yet, so many days at maximum capacity.

[blazing stirrup]

We could ask the guy who made the MI-8 model to make the MI-24

[latent iris]

there is a mi 8

[blazing stirrup]

Have you even read my message?

Perhaps I consider you should

[latent iris]

you said we could ask the guy who made the mi 8 model

im asking is it ingame i have not seen it

[blazing stirrup]

https://discord.com/channels/93829266994638848/1196162058232811690

[solar basalt]

he left the discord a while ago

[latent iris]

damm

was nice work

i have an idea but not asking for it do be made right now but a chinook that is able to have the tank things drive into

[jagged spire]

the cheapest option to massively improve your performance is either to buy more RAM or spend it on EGPU

which can easily cost upward of 100$

[latent iris]

helicopter need a reverse option

[ashen ravine]

What

you can fly in reverse

Already

[latent iris]

attempt 200 to fly throw that backwards

kinda

any pulls it off i will give you a cookie

[ashen ravine]

Challange accepted

[latent iris]

need to record it

[ashen ravine]

ofcourse

[latent iris]

its easy going forward backwards hard af

[ember bloom]

only the cheapest of "open" enclosure eGPU devices can be had for $100. The damn thunderbolt bridge chip is like $80 on it's own. More typical to see about $300 for an empty enclosure (thunderbolt bridge, enclosure, 300W/500W power supply)

plus your host must support thunderbolt3/4

and your link to the eGPU is rather weak so if you're going to game with it, it's better off with a fast AMDGPU. I use a RX6400, as it's bus capability is about on par with what's available to an eGPU slot anyway.

an RX6500XT might be a slightly better choice, but quite a bit larger

also, the max type-c cable length you can use with this guy is limited to like 3-4 feet tops. A 6 foot cable will not work in most cases :/

cost me about $100 for the 'dock', $45 for the power brick to run it, and $170 for the RX6400 card.

[ashen ravine]

attemt #5

@latent iris

not perfect but i did it

[latent iris]

https://tenor.com/view/its-jason-bourne-gif-25127621

[ashen ravine]

What?

[serene hare]

holy shit its the guy from spiderwick

[latent iris]

after watching it couple more time you have cheated lol

did you press z before attemping it ?

[ashen ravine]

Yes

[latent iris]

im talking about flying towards it and then pressing a or d to spin backwards

[ashen ravine]

And im not hiding it

[latent iris]

was watching on phone was out with the dogs

i should have said about flying no hovering

[ashen ravine]

since this was not stated in the original terms, I will ignore this

[latent iris]

lol

yea i should state the rules better next time

[ashen ravine]

Definitly

[round thistle]

I don't train because it won't be of any use anyway if there is a collision it will be turned on.

[latent iris]

when you say collision what do you mean

[ashen ravine]

Blades

[latent iris]

if anything would this not be helping us fly a bit better

thread the needle type stuff

[ashen ravine]

Do I still get a cookie?

[latent iris]

oww sheet

🍪

there

[ashen ravine]

Yum yum

[round thistle]

Well, It's better not to practice aiming at a hole that you won't fit into later.

[latent iris]

you dont know that

[ashen ravine]

I can tell you

When rotor collision is enabled

You will not be able to fly trough

Not wide enough

[round thistle]

then you will learn to fly again

[latent iris]

did those mpad thing get fixed ?

[ashen ravine]

Yeah

They work

[latent iris]

thought sly was killing me at first

[round thistle]

A break from flying for now, is operating on the ground for now.

[latent iris]

naw i thought you where using that apollo thing to kill me

those manpads

pain lol you dont know untill its too late lol

[ember bloom]

silent update? apache fixed?

[latent iris]

yup

they all fly

[ember bloom]

"why the fuck can't I lift off the ground... okay, engine off, what the fuck"

"... oh."

[latent iris]

@ashen ravine skill

did you spawn that there or crash

[ashen ravine]

what

Im not on the server bro

[ember bloom]

wooo, successful landing at the opposing airfield.

[ashen ravine]

Traitor!

[ember bloom]

nice view though

[round thistle]

LOL

[ember bloom]

Server CPU is much better now, yoshi

[radiant thorn]

Is this the mod or the map or is it because the first flag isn't captured that we don't have spawns on the previous points? I am just curious as to how we only have a spawn at main and was curious if it was the vehicle mod?

[ember bloom]

map maker probably tagged the spawns strangely

want me to go seek to the Sgt Samples clip where he covers what options are there?

[radiant thorn]

No was just curious as this makes the game more Squad esc because it means the vehicles SLs should be placing HABS I actually really like it but was just wondering as this was the first time I have seen this so far.

[ember bloom]

https://youtu.be/mkBnocKvp4o?list=PL2XmeST13CZ4jQ058ghSk6kH0a_G1Sete&t=393

[round thistle]

Is the vehicle version, for FOB's and Rally points

[ember bloom]

can see him click on the spawn points and what options are there

[weary lark]

ya that blue thing by SL 7 is a rally

part of mod

[radiant thorn]

No I mean none of the capture points have spawn points. Not talking about Rallys/Habs

[ember bloom]

sec, getting the screencap

[weary lark]

ya that's a map thing

[ember bloom]

he goes over the various recapturable settings around 7:26ish

[radiant thorn]

Ok cool need more maps without spawn points on them to make people use rally and hab placements appreciate it

[ember bloom]

"provide spawn point" and "provide spawn point while under attack" are toggles

so yeah, can request your favorite map maker to flip some of those toggles for a named layer

[solar basalt]

never seen this happen before and played quite a few rounds

[solar basalt]

Will look at the flag setup tomorrow

But yeah not being able to spawn on the flags is intentional

[radiant thorn]

Yea I wasnt really talking about your map I forgot how yours is setup but I noticed that almost every map in this game has that spawn at capture point feature, which destroys a lot of fun for Placing Habs and rally's It is just a TDM with Capture Point Spawning at that point. However I noticed that noone knows about placing Habs at all, not to mention most of the servers are all EU players that don't understand me basically.

Where all the NA players that use mics at? lol

[solar basalt]

Yeah just wondering myself why their is an “uncapped”flag randomly

But yeah most flag setups don’t make vehicles/fobs and rallies necessary

[ember bloom]

might have been set as "provide spawn point" but not "provide spawn point while under attack"

[shut echo]

Maybe some ruskkie managed to "get it"?

[solar basalt]

But on both sides there is ukraine flags so it should have to be captured

And none of the flags in that layout except for main spawns which can’t be capped should be set to captureable whether it’s under attack or not

[shut echo]

THE horror of Shadow RUSSKY

[solar basalt]

Once vehicles are ingame that should change and I think most maps will be set so flags aren’t Spawnable or atleast have that as an option

[shut echo]

What in der attack means?

[solar basalt]

Under attack = being captured

[shut echo]

Does this feature work in Risala? bcs that explains the problem i had with Mortars on Risala?

[ember bloom]

no idea what risala's spawn point settings are -- you can check in the SDK

[tender quest]

Pömpernickell

[latent iris]

@fair vault

nothing more frightening than watching a rocket fly towards window

[sturdy flax]

wrong warrior but yas

[latent iris]

lol

[round thistle]

can we try big one again?

[ember bloom]

?

[fair vault]

Vehicles are in the game now?!?!?

(I’m the better warrior)

[ember bloom]

via mods, yes

have been for quite a while (over a year now, in fact)

[fair vault]

I have not played operation in a year I played when there was like 4 maps I’ve been waiting for vehicles to be added and I forgot about the game lol

[ember bloom]

there's still only six-ish vanilla maps

well over 50 modded maps now though

[latent iris]

sorry it was for warrior j but yea you should play the game now

[fair vault]

I need to find out how to download them I am THEE greatest helicopter pilot ever made

[ember bloom]

join my server

[weary lark]

I have depression

No maxwell cat vehicle

[weary lark]

Very cute

VladimirGaming99

[ashen ravine]

Hm?

[weary lark]

Will you shit my pants?

[ashen ravine]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-huh-cat-huh-etr-gif-15332443943609734737

[ashen ravine]

No

[weary lark]

Do you

The dobedo

[ashen ravine]

https://tenor.com/view/the-nightmare-before-christmas-jack-skellington-head-scratch-hmm-i-wonder-gif-8380524

[weary lark]

You wanna witness me

Play arma scenarios

[ashen ravine]

Maybe later,lil busy rn

[weary lark]

Anyone im bored

Tragi

[ashen ravine]

hey

Rate this pussy

[weary lark]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/ozq_BGmlIJ8

[latent iris]

you hinting at a new plane ?

[shy nest]

Mein Urgroßvater 💀🤫

[weary lark]

So i learned something super random

Arma 3 uses a 3rd party lib for their flight model

Its called rotorlib

Idk if its open source

[floral shale]

[fair vault]

Do I have to download any mods?

[jagged spire]

download: yes, search for the right mod:no

the mod will autodownload as soon as you join the server

[latent iris]

😮 you starting to play again ?

[fair vault]

I will be yes😤

[latent iris]

sorry for @ you lastnight

[fair vault]

Nah it’s all good it actually brought me back to this game so thank you

[latent iris]

it was for warrior j

[fair vault]

I know you accidentally @ the better warrior tho🥱

[latent iris]

worth playing right now soo much good mods to play imo yoshi helicopter mod is the best

[fair vault]

That’s what imma be in and I’ll be the best pilot anyone has ever seen on the game😤 I have 3k hours on wt and my heli flying skills are next level🥱

Hopefully it same controls and everything tho lol

[latent iris]

e to start space to go up crtl to go down a and d are the trim mouse to fly

[solar basalt]

https://tenor.com/view/what-you-sure-you-sure-about-that-dog-watching-gif-26139783

[fair vault]

Ok I’ll have to change some then lol

[severe pendant]

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@weary lark when??

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[weary lark]

no more features

only fixing

all helis will be admin spawn only

• there will be gloabl limit on helis

there will be 8-9 vics instead of 11

burning fx is added, but scaled back

no exhaust or dust kickup anymore

vics can take +1 or maybe even 2 rockets now

[wet void]

Make burning state last longer? Cuse atm its pretty dam fast for ground vehicles (optional)

[weary lark]

Yes

It will be tweaked per vehicle

larger ones burn faster

smaller shittier ones will burn longer since they are weaker

[wet void]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-nod-catnod-yes-vibe-gif-21529329

Me likey

[lime zodiac]

[weary lark]

void APlayerController::PawnLeavingGame()
{
    if (GetPawn() != NULL)
    {
        GetPawn()->Destroy();
        SetPawn(NULL);
    }
}

https://tenor.com/view/death-gif-20834117

[ember bloom]

"if you wain't null, you is now!!"

[weary lark]

Meow

[ashen ravine]

Meow

Myaw

[weary lark]

Meow

I shidded

[ashen ravine]

y?

[weary lark]

I just gotta uwu you know

[ashen ravine]

me no understand

[weary lark]

Im gonna shidded

Again

I feel the bubble

[ashen ravine]

should not have eaten beans

[weary lark]

Beanos

I will update mod one day

[round thistle]

Meow meaaoooow

[round thistle]

And it will be a beautiful day.

Servers will melt.

[latent iris]

soo yoshi killed my fun now ?

[weary lark]

Wym

No

[latent iris]

this

[round thistle]

There is no server can handle 64 heli.

[latent iris]

yet

[weary lark]

Ye ypshi has a skill issue

So no high pop servers with helis

[round thistle]

No, this is UE4 issue

[latent iris]

you able to record how many hours people have been fly yoshi ?

[dark needle]

is it also an UE5 issue ?

[shy nest]

bruh

[weary lark]

wym

[solar basalt]

Fixed in ue5 by Yoshi_six

[jagged spire]

if the mod got delayed by 2 months now I know who to blame

[dark needle]

Today I had a weird dream where I could spawn Yoshi's helis irl, but still needed to press "e" somehow to enter, I was about to have private helis but it didnt work because reasons

this is the 2nd time I have dream with yoshis mod lol

[ashen ravine]

damn

[latent iris]

@round thistle

[wet void]

I prefer Yoshi_Six over five, he got a bigger pp

[round thistle]

Yoshi_Five + UE5

[weary lark]

need to fix some apollo stuff

then maybe update this week idk

i'm thinking only 8 vics

2 of each

tracked apc/truck/wheeled apc/wheeled ifv

no dust/exhaust fx

i also did a thing to prevent people from going under wheels

[latent iris]

found a glitch

pilot not in helicopter

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QdvdxWXSfjY&feature=youtu.be look at the ground

happed after @civic dragon crashed into a building

[civic dragon]

😂

[latent iris]

@round thistle you about ?

[round thistle]

on the ground

[latent iris]

i was going to ask for map chnage but going afk so no point

[radiant thorn]

There a way to get a vehicle without 3 people in squad or being admin? Basically for servers with not enough players, anyone joining to play with Vehicles can't use them anyway around this?

[solar basalt]

Once Yoshi gets his update out there is

[radiant thorn]

[latent iris]

anyone able to change the map please ?

[round thistle]

yep

what map do you like

?

[round thistle]

@latent iris

[latent iris]

trying to find name of it the new one

one we where on earlier today

[round thistle]

ok

sec

[round thistle]

done

[latent iris]

that is the one cheers sly

[round thistle]

np

[blazing stirrup]

@blazing stirrup

[round thistle]

lol

@latent iris Try to fly him. lol

[latent iris]

who?

sly you should join

[round thistle]

Don't you see? Talking helicopter, like Alexa.

[latent iris]

lost me

just me and bambus on the server

[radiant thorn]

Are you able to break an enemy HAB in the public version?

[vast parcel]

yeah

shoot with a vehicle

[radiant thorn]

Isnt there a zoom hotkey?

[latent iris]

q

[round thistle]

Meow

[latent iris]

when is the uh 60a getting some love yoshi ?

[ashen ravine]

Yeah!

Why cant we get free look and hover on a black hawk?
Also, Can we get side gunners with M60 machine guns for the black hawk? Please!

[latent iris]

i would be happy with free look no need for hover on a black hawk

[ashen ravine]

Yeah

Hower would be useful with the additions of fast ropes

[latent iris]

could be a little bit faster🤷‍♂️ not apache fast i feel like the trucks move faster than what the black hawk does

[ashen ravine]

Idk about that

But door/window guns are necessery

[latent iris]

gunner seat might help with it being slow

again idk

just asking not demanding

[ashen ravine]

I think the gunner should be sitting in that small window behind the pilot seats.

Like that 👆

[latent iris]

lol

yea that be cool down the line

[ashen ravine]

And useful

[latent iris]

yea

if we cant get speed then guns to fight back

[ashen ravine]

Providing small air support or clearing and securing the landing area

Yoshi, plis

[round thistle]

I prefer not to have a random person behind my back who will be shooting at non-existent targets all the time in my ear all the way to the destination.

And usually lands in a safe zone.

Plus the guys who have RPG or AA will shoot you down before you pull the trigger anyway.

[latent iris]

why you need speed and to kiss the ground

https://tenor.com/view/helicopter-fall-gif-9501536

[round thistle]

Losing the heli also takes a lot of tickets also, so I will definitely land where I don't expect an enemy. As long as you're in the heli, no one will kill you straight away with a rifle.

[latent iris]

didnt know that

[round thistle]

in addition, the one who will shoot unnecessarily will reveal your position even more.

[round thistle]

Yeah, I think is 10 tickers now + passengers

It was even said that the loss of the heli would cost even more tickets

[latent iris]

did you kill me

[round thistle]

who?

[latent iris]

you

i was flying minding my own business then i die

[round thistle]

How? I'm not even there 😄

[latent iris]

you have that program

[round thistle]

Well, you need to be in the game to use it

[latent iris]

really

hmm

wonder if moving fast in a helicoper can kill you

[round thistle]

from rcon you can only kick or ban someone

[latent iris]

fair yea i died

[round thistle]

even from apollo you can't kill anyone atm

[latent iris]

thought you could

[round thistle]

eject, yes

[latent iris]

does pressing z in the blackhawk do anything ?

[round thistle]

I didn't check after the last update

[latent iris]

fair i cant tell

[ashen ravine]

Im sorry, but I think you've picked the wrong game then

[ashen ravine]

Nah

[ember bloom]

"i don't mind a gunner, it's just, if I'm gonna have one, they better be picking targets they can actually kill, instead of just harassment and making fart noises with their mouths."

[ashen ravine]

"Anyone, who runs, is a VC, anybody who stands still - is a well disciplinned VC!"

[ember bloom]

fun thing about OHD projectiles being physical: you CAN hit that heli in the distance and give that pilot a scare with the "PLINGPLONGPLINK" sound effect (and next to no damage)

i can't tell you the number of times I've taken a few small arms potshots at the alligator or apache and watched it's pilot look around for what hit them

[ashen ravine]

"Next to no damage" actually takes away 1/3 of your hull HP when somebody is actually shooting at your blackhawk with a machinegun

[ember bloom]

wut

which ones?

there's no way the machinegun rifles are doing that much damage at a distance

[latent iris]

you get hardly any damage from gun fire only the tanks and manpad can take you down

[ashen ravine]

(im talking about blackhawks)

[latent iris]

would need a full team to sot at you bring you down with normal guns

[ember bloom]

yeah, so what fucking manportable machine gun are you talking about?

[ashen ravine]

Attack helis do not give a fck

[latent iris]

not been shot at when in blackhawk tho

[ashen ravine]

PKM at close distance

[ember bloom]

never seen it's hull gauge go down other than getting hit by a rocket or a vehicle weapon

which faction has a PKM?

[ashen ravine]

Insurgents lol

[ember bloom]

the fuck? which class? all i got was that bullshit AK47

[ashen ravine]

Bro, machinegunner

[latent iris]

jump in kamilion if you can

[ember bloom]

AT's got some kind of SMG

[ember bloom]

?

shit, did I leave the server running all night?

[latent iris]

no the test build

[ember bloom]

the test build of what?

[ember bloom]

the test build of what?

[latent iris]

what ever this server is called

[ember bloom]

i just shut "I sexually identify as an attack heli playtest server" down a moment ago

[latent iris]

try the pkm out

playtest server

[ember bloom]

what, with ponch's delta force factions?

or US vs Ins vanilla?

[ashen ravine]

Actually, the problem is not even in damage.
The problem is that there is a random sneaky guy on the ground who keeps shooting at you while you csnt see him

[round thistle]

I think you don't know what the guys are doing if you fly and have 60 ppl on server

[ashen ravine]

Tell me?

[round thistle]

Just told you that above I'm sure what is gonna to happen.

[latent iris]

i thought the point of a blackhawk was to land people behind or close to enemy lines so would you not expect to get shot at ?

like you wont be staying above them its a matter of get in and out

[round thistle]

You need to hear what is happen around, contacting with your squad guys and the last think you want is the machine gun behind your back.

[latent iris]

depends on the person

[ashen ravine]

Irl, it can be used as a light gunship when equipped with a minigun

[latent iris]

i know what you are saying you are going to have that one person who thinks they are rambo always shooting

[round thistle]

yeah

they do that in BTR

[latent iris]

what if it was linked to squads so no random people allowed in

[ashen ravine]

We could easily solve the problem

[ember bloom]

i call bullshit

[ashen ravine]

PKT sound is pretty quiet

[ember bloom]

there's no fucking hull damage done at all

[latent iris]

coz you are in spawn

noob

[ashen ravine]

Are you shooting friendly?

[ember bloom]

no!

I spawned it, then switched sides.

[latent iris]

re join shoot at me

i will fly to your base

[ashen ravine]

Well, im not implying that it will blow a heli in a second

[ember bloom]

dude, i just spawned as US, flew it to enemy base, landed it, suicided, and dumped two whole boxes of rounds into it

as whatever the RU marine's machinegunner class has

so that's probably not whatever insurgent factions you were talking about with a pkm, idfk

either way, switched sides again, and got in the heli, hull's still full

[ember bloom]

you got hit by a rocket dude, I don't know what to fucking tell you.

[ashen ravine]

Nah

[ember bloom]

I don't think there's any vanilla bullet projectile you can fire from a humanoid that will hurt the vics other than rockets

I can't even blow the fuckers up with grenades

the only thing I know of that DOES is modded faction's C4 and mines

[ashen ravine]

I can tell its true because we were playing 1v1 with Eagle4000 on a playtest

[ember bloom]

because they do enough numerical damage to hurt the hull

[ashen ravine]

The server was empty

And we did a chalange

1 machinegunner vs an apache

[ember bloom]

there's no fucking way one machine gun bullet takes a third of the hull HP away -- you got hit by a goddamn rocket or something

[ashen ravine]

Bro

💀

Wtf are you talking about

Im talking about wasting 3 boxes of ammo

[ember bloom]

you'd have to empty at least two of your four boxes of ammo

yeah, and after you've emptied yourself out there should be like a TOTAL of 1/3rd hull damage done

across nearly 1000 bullets

[ashen ravine]

Exactly

[ember bloom]

yeah, So next to no fucking damage

[latent iris]

join and shoot me

[ember bloom]

not three hits and you're dead

[round thistle]

and i can still fly away without any gun on board. lol

[ember bloom]

next to (close to) no damage (zero damage) == 5 damage from 2500 hull points

one machinegunner cannot kill any of the vehicles

you'd need at least four to empty their whole inventory against one vehicle

[round thistle]

and you have no chance to kill hidden RPG guy from heli

[ember bloom]

I think it's actually more like 100 damage from 25000 hull, not sure

...

what?

which faction has a machine gunner that has a hidden RPG?

[ashen ravine]

Bri

Bro

How do you keep misunderstanding us?

[round thistle]

I talking to vlad about the machine gun on heli

[ashen ravine]

💀💀

[ember bloom]

Because you're shit at communicating clearly?

[ashen ravine]

Based

[ember bloom]

like most people are?

y'all are lazy and can't be arsed with typing paragraphs, so you shorten shit to the point where it's easily misunderstood.

[ashen ravine]

We are talking abot a guy who runs with rpg hiding in the buildings, then pops out for 2 seconds, shoots you, then hides back

[ember bloom]

then how did 1/3rd hp from machinegunner come into play? sigh

with a reply directly to me

[round thistle]

lol

[ashen ravine]

easy

1. lay down

[ember bloom]

I just went out of my way to test the damage values

[ashen ravine]

2. wait for heli to not look at you

3. shoot it

[ember bloom]

shoot it with a machine gun?

[ashen ravine]

yes

[ember bloom]

shoot it with an RPG?

FUCK YOU.

WHICH ONE

[ashen ravine]

both works

[ember bloom]

Naw, only the RPG will do actual damage.

small arms do next to no damage

[ashen ravine]

Too easy

[ember bloom]

you need over a thousand bullets to kill it

that's what I've been arguing this whole time

the SDK has the bullet damage values set too low to hurt the damn vehicles

only explosives do enough damage, and not all of them

unless yoshi's just changed that

[ashen ravine]

Nah bro

I mean

You are not wrong

[ember bloom]

by either lowering hull or handling some kind of damage multiplier from bullets in certain directions

[ashen ravine]

Im just telling you

That you CAN shoot a heli down with small arms

[ember bloom]

sure, yes, you can, it takes fucking forever, I've done it

literally wasting three lives doing it

because there's no way to snipe the pilot yet, even if you can hit their model

I've tried endlessly

before I learned it was impossible and the vehicle takes the damage, not the human

you're basically invincible if you're in a vehicle at the moment

[ashen ravine]

I remember the days when you could kill the pilot

[ember bloom]

only thing that can boom you is another vehicle or a dude with an RPG, and they get one, maybe two shots

... what??

[latent iris]

i was going to ask if you could snipe the pilot lol guess not

[ember bloom]

are you talking about OHD? or another game? fucking jesus christ

[ashen ravine]

Bro 💀

[ember bloom]

never in OHD, since once they're in a vehicle their meatbody's health isn't checked.

[round thistle]

On the public version is a side widows is or was a bug, even friendly can kill you

[ember bloom]

getting into one of yoshi's vehicles despawns your dude.

and puts a mannequin prop in the seat

[ember bloom]

?? public version? Side windows in aircraft are deadly? I'm very confused here dude, since the public version doesn't have them?

[round thistle]

players did this to steal your heli

[ember bloom]

are you sure you're not confusing it with one of the earliest previews?

[round thistle]

talking about UH-60

[ember bloom]

yeah, the huey you spawn with Home in the preview version.

[round thistle]

yeah

[ember bloom]

not the attack heli with pgdown or fkey

[round thistle]

no no

[ember bloom]

sigh

I'm gonna go remove the preview right now and try to spawn a helicopter.

[round thistle]

Apache have same bug before update on gunner seat

just join loyal vehicles

we can try

[ember bloom]

Wait, how?

without the error?

you have a trick for that or something?

[round thistle]

no you can try yourself

[ember bloom]

... what?

[round thistle]

I was thinking you like to test the bug

[ember bloom]

dude you're fucking smoking crack

[round thistle]

lol

I thought you wanted to put the server on a public mode

[ember bloom]

... huh?

what server? what the hell is a public mode?

we have three servers that have come up in the last hour of conversation.

my server (now down), playtest server, and now loyal games

which, in this instance is, "the" server?

playtest? loyal?

[round thistle]

I'm just saying that there is a bug in the public version

[ember bloom]

Are you saying public mode to communicate "not supporter-only" ?

bashes head against keyboard

I fucking hate mornings.

[round thistle]

no, the normal public OHD overhaul

[ember bloom]

... Which has only ground vehicles...

[round thistle]

and one heli

[ember bloom]

... what?

[round thistle]

yeah, home key + admin

[ember bloom]

I'm very confused now, I thought the blackhawk was what fucking started the preview version

[round thistle]

no

you need coffee

[ember bloom]

so it was hidden in the public version this whole time?

[round thistle]

yes

[ember bloom]

I don't drink coffee dude

[round thistle]

that's why I'm arguing with Vlad that I don't want any machine gun behind my back

in real life, the pilot has headphones to communicate with the world and in the game you will always have some Rambo gunner behind your back.

[ember bloom]

in RL everybody's wearing BOSE

that's literally where they came from, lol

military headsets gone commercial

and yeah, can have someone blastin' from the door gun and barely even notice over the headset

amazing stuff, and we're only now catching up in 'the techbro' space. (with the latest google pixel buds pro and their ANC features, based on the now-expired bose patents)

Anyway, sorry i'm in such a bad mood; I'm totally awake and not requiring any coffee, all the gears are meshing well in my head, but talking to other people is making them grind up

i'm rarely awake at 10AM >.<

[latent iris]

will the helicopters be able to regenerate its health if you land at base ?

[ember bloom]

that'd be nice, bf42 used to do that.

[round thistle]

there is such a plan

[latent iris]

nice

[ember bloom]

regenerating ammo too?

[round thistle]

I think so

an additional reason to return to base alive

[ember bloom]

good stuff. Both of those are reasonable toggles to have in mapsettings too

[latent iris]

satnav

[ember bloom]

wen fas travel yosshi

</sarcasm>

[latent iris]

im guessing when the models are fully done there will be a little screen in cockpit

[round thistle]

@latent iris that's why I said I wouldn't fly straight into the enemy's trap

provided it's serious gameplay

[ashen ravine]

Uhh, yeah. I remember that you could kill a pilot in a blackhawk. It was in the public version, idk if you can do this rn

[ember bloom]

yeah, I was confused, i had no idea yoshi snuck the troop carrier into the public version (since I wasn't paying attention at the time, being more interested in xorberax-SM3 CQB)

[ashen ravine]

Bro, did you just call UH-60 Blackhawk a "Huey"?

[ember bloom]

sure did

all troop carriers in games are hueys, after the game Superhuey became popular in 1985 just before 1989 when america started watching war-via-news

that game series cemented "huey" as shorthand for "people moving helicopter"

people that don't know actual helicopter designations will call a drop carrier a huey no matter what it is

because that's the only descriptive word they know that's close enough.

[ashen ravine]

Alr

[ember bloom]

i couldn't tell you the difference between a blackhawk and a huey anyway

[ashen ravine]

oh

Look

[ember bloom]

"I dunno, bell helicopter, UH series"

[ashen ravine]

Huey (Vietnam)

[ember bloom]

and I don't really give a fuck about learning either

[ashen ravine]

Blackhawk, Hawk, (modern)

[ember bloom]

if you wanna complain, do it to the writers of the M*A*S*H television show

looks like the same designation to me

both are UH series, are they not?

[ashen ravine]

I mean ok, just FYI

Or anybody FYI

[ember bloom]

since we're doing FYI

[ashen ravine]

Yes, they are UH-1 and UH-60

[ember bloom]

this is a Iroquois not a huey

[ashen ravine]

I know

[ember bloom]

huey was it's nickname

[ashen ravine]

I know

[ember bloom]

better known under it's cobra naming

looks much more apachelike with it's skids retracted, lol

[ashen ravine]

yes, thats AH-1 cobra

[ember bloom]

yep

thanks wikipedia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bell_Huey_family

[ashen ravine]

Looks goofy

Goofy AH cobra

[ember bloom]

but yeah, Superhuey was the smash hit of 1985 for ataris (going up against super mario bros 2 for NES)

evvvvvvvverybody I knew that played games had it XD

like pacman

one of those weird little quirks of growing up in america through the 1980s before the internet and before nightly news

[ashen ravine]

Hey, @round thistle I dont think that sound would be a problem.
Why? Well
BTR's secondary weapon (PKT) sound is pretty quiet and less clancky than regular PKM sound. Maybe we could just use this sound - easy solution. Or we could just muffle all the sound except the radio when in helicopter - realistic solution (because headphones).

[ember bloom]

"realistically" you can't hear anything over the noise of the jet turbines running

[ashen ravine]

Yes, thats why everybody is wearing headphones

[ember bloom]

not just headphones, but bose aviation headsets with noise cancelling.

[ashen ravine]

But you can hear radio in headphones, right

?

[ember bloom]

"it's been an aviation standard longer than i've been alive"

yes, radio and crew to crew comms

there's plugs all over the aircraft

[ashen ravine]

So that means that we muffle everything except Voice chat

is yoshi asleep or smth?

[ember bloom]

copilot/gunny gets control over the party line and has a separate set of push to transmit keys to bridge others onto the radio

probably

[ashen ravine]

I wanna ping him rn

[weary lark]

don't do it

[ashen ravine]

WHAT

[ember bloom]

yeah, for maximum authenticity we'd need a good drone sound for the engine

[ashen ravine]

oh

I forgot

Invisible status exists

[ashen ravine]

Even better, that means that you know what we were talking about

[weary lark]

nah i just got back on and looked at my threada

people arguing lol

[ashen ravine]

Oh

[ember bloom]

audio mixing parameters

and what authentic attenuation would be like

[weary lark]

all helis take small arms

idk i might of fucked something with the black hawk

but it takes the damage and scales it down because it's healh value is pretty low

[ember bloom]

i was just confused with which updates rolled out where, and when

[weary lark]

like 400-500

[ember bloom]

yeah, 460 is what i remembered off hand

and it mostly makes sense, and is even generally consistent with small arms against aircraft in the bf series & mods

they do a bit more damage; a box of MG will blow most vehicles up before it's emptied (if every round hits)

flipside, bf helos went down in one hit from shoulder launcher.

[ashen ravine]

Would be cool if small arms damaged engine more than hull

[ember bloom]

... yeah, actually.

that honestly makes more sense to me anyway

[weary lark]

rockets and vehicle rounds can damage engine components on the helicopters.

if you hit a heli in it's engines with a rocket it won't be able to hover anymore

[ember bloom]

yeah I've taken at least 4-5 rockets from an apache before bailing out and trying to land somewhere, in OHD overhaul

my expectation would be a single hit would be deadly

but things are not balanced right now (which is fair)

[ashen ravine]

Bro Added "in OHD" in that last second 💀

[ember bloom]

yeah, so it wouldn't be confused with what I said about bf just above.

[weary lark]

ya that's a bit fucked

[ashen ravine]

I thought IRL (sarcasm)

[weary lark]

when the heli is more durable than the mrap lol

[ember bloom]

yep lol

but i can't blame you for just picking some numbers that sounded good and rolling with it for a while.

[weary lark]

well also it's how i scale the incoming damage as well

[ember bloom]

too much coding, not enough playing with others laughs

"coder tunnel vision"

[ashen ravine]

Yeah

Thats why small open playtest should exist

[ember bloom]

"I ain't even mad bout it"

[ashen ravine]

And by "playtest" I mean we are allowed to fuck around with helis

[ember bloom]

yeah, i'm sure yoshi's got a little note book or equivolent where he puts all these quirks that need to be looked at

[weary lark]

I just put like 100 ak rounds into a black hawk. it's at like 45% health

[ashen ravine]

Because we need to do something new instead of shooting bots all the time

[ember bloom]

just a few minutes ago 7 people were on and fucking around

[ashen ravine]

Like pvp

Missiles tests

Manpads test

[weary lark]

you know

[ember bloom]

which direction, and what were you aiming at?

[weary lark]

doesn't matter for small arms

[ember bloom]

(I was shooting it in the side door)

[weary lark]

was shooting engine / side doors

[ember bloom]

k, so it's not taking any extra damage from being hit in the rear like vladimir was implying earlier.

[weary lark]

might be something different from what i'm doing in editor and whatever version you are on

[ashen ravine]

Uuh

[ember bloom]

unless that's the engine hitbox and I'm misunderstanding

[weary lark]

i might of scuffed something idk

[ashen ravine]

I wasnt implying that

[ember bloom]

k, then my assumption was incorrect, sorry bout that

[ashen ravine]

Are talking about this?

[ember bloom]

yeah, perhaps

[ashen ravine]

Uhh no

Thats not what I meant

[ember bloom]

i just scrolled up myself and couldn't find the reference

[ashen ravine]

You need to shoot at heli while its not looking so that he cant see your muzzle flash

you know, so you dont die

[ember bloom]

and yeah, i comprehend how pilot's view is straight ahead and wasn't assuming X was being held for freelook

and yes, I've stayed still and waited for them to pass, myself.

and I, too, shoot at moving things I see on the ground.

sometimes i'll just blindly barrage a spawn building but generally I'm shooting at something I can see, and not something I'm assuming maybe could be might be possibly there but unmoving.

there's quite a few instances of CQB where I've blown xorb up while he's behind a corner waiting to jump me and I just take a risk and shoot first

but at range? nah, not so much.

[weary lark]

meow

[ashen ravine]

How to shoot down a heli with a machinegun:

1. wait for heli to come
2. lie down and dont move. blend in with the terrain or other objects
3. shoot a heli while its not looking
4. relocate
   5)repeat

[ember bloom]

mostly though I'm glad the helos are replicated all the way across the level

[latent iris]

yoshi you got patreon?

[weary lark]

No

[ember bloom]

6. die
7. respawn with more ammo
8. repeat

[latent iris]

😦

[ember bloom]

paypal?

[weary lark]

Yes

[ember bloom]

nayfun wants to buy you dinnah.

[latent iris]

yea

[weary lark]

Pancakes?

No.

Waffles.

[latent iris]

feel like i cheated the system

how about both ?

[ashen ravine]

Y?

[latent iris]

paid for dev build when i should have donated

[ember bloom]

a reminder, yoshi is a signed dev with an orange name -- your donation to the project does end up in his hands

cause that's how bluedrake pays them orangeys

[latent iris]

true but its split**

[solar basalt]

thats donating though just in a different way?

[ember bloom]

and according to the history you bought donator, and received devbuild

#1110291763941355691 message

[latent iris]

naw i paid for dev build

i linked the pic to donator but clicked on dev

[solar basalt]

that money goes to OHD development whether you buy dev build or the donator DLC or donate through discord

[latent iris]

look i know this

[solar basalt]

so your money went same place either way

[latent iris]

like i says feel cheated + spent way too much time on the heli mod in return i would like to donate to yoshi

[solar basalt]

oh so you wish instead of donating to OHD you sent money directly to yoshi?

[latent iris]

yes

[solar basalt]

oh

[latent iris]

there is and there is not a point buying the donator package that be my buying game again

but doing so that would help the project

[wet void]

There is other ways to support Yoshi for example send him your nudes to keep him motivated

[latent iris]

tbh i was hoping he would send me one in return

yoshi start and onlyfans problem solved

[ashen ravine]

"Guy, im looking at gay porno!"
-Kamilion

[weary lark]

jets wen

i really wanna add kpvt emplacement

[ashen ravine]

tommorow

[weary lark]

https://tenor.com/view/badass-soldier-march-gun-gif-4527194

[latent iris]

found a glitch

we can team kill people in the gunner seat

[sturdy flax]

Kord wen

[round thistle]

I find it earlier.

because it was planned

[latent iris]

nothing is planned

https://tenor.com/view/bob-ross-painter-painting-talk-we-dont-make-mistakes-gif-17574947

[round thistle]

meow

[latent iris]

https://simul.co wen

[round thistle]

Wrong place

[latent iris]

🤷‍♂️

sky helicopter 🤝

it wouldnt work would need to be in every mod

unless they use it on stock maps but even so do we really need it

[round thistle]

Yeah, but here is about mod, Yoshi can't doing anything about the sky

[latent iris]

https://tenor.com/view/nacho-why-confused-jack-black-gif-8714598

[weary lark]

of which vehicle ...

[weary lark]

wen i have model

[latent iris]

apache

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