OHD Vehicle Overhaul

[weary lark]

😢

So much effort

I have burning fx from vigilante imported

Looks very good uwu

[wet void]

[oblique cradle]

purple

[serene hare]

Are we playtest ready?

[weary lark]

Ya i think

Prob forgot something but oh well

[serene hare]

Right let's get packaging

[weary lark]

Im in bed lol

[serene hare]

Well, after that then

[weary lark]

The mortars damage vehicles

I tested

[lime zodiac]

[serene hare]

Let's gooo

C4 too?

[weary lark]

oh shi idk

i tested warriors only

[wet void]

Can we have khafji 4k this time if the vehicles will be there?

[serene hare]

Frag rpg and at grenade also would need testing on the vehicles

[weary lark]

well that is supposed to not damage the vics right

[serene hare]

Yeah, and iirc the at grenades weren't damaging them but we're supposed to

[weary lark]

nah AT grenades always worked

but i don't have anything to not damage the vehicle

[sturdy flax]

claymores

mine dont detect vehicle channels

[wet void]

Calymores are only racist against infantry so its fine

[weary lark]

Completely disabled claiming for the tracked boiz

Now going to add claim limits

[median pebble]

https://tenor.com/view/i-think-you're-genius-billy-dunne-sam-claflin-daisy-jones-%26-the-six-i-think-you're-great-gif-13345504656014671218

[severe pendant]

is it easy to make the painting a bit more shiny, I find them looking like plastic rn

its not game breaking, its just a me thing I guess

[weary lark]

@here
UPDATED

https://tenor.com/view/babyscream-yeah-hockey-kid-angry-gif-9769992124503380357

[tender quest]

Is update today real or cake?

OHHHH

I've been camping this for years

My family is starving I have not fed them I can finally feed them

@celest marten ^^^^^^

[tender quest]

Vehicles not spawning?

Can't hear thrm

Nvm kts just bugged no engine sounds come from em

[wet void]

When you shot the 14.5 mm on the BTR 80 the casings kinda block your view

[tender quest]

OH SHIT

engine yoggle

Oh the dof on interior cam is SICK

@weary lark any way to spawn btr?

[sly badge]

How long does it take for a kick to wear off i still cant join again 😭

[dark needle]

https://www.reddit.com/r/mildyinteresting/s/NDuX8UIRa6

[serene hare]

https://tenor.com/view/domgcat-donkeycat-gif-24380643

[weary lark]

@here mod is reverted. too much scuff. @oak herald
reverted version is the one people have been playing for the past 2 months, should be stable enough for normal play.

[oak herald]

😭😭😭

[jagged spire]

time to back up

[ashen ravine]

Ok, lets summarise today's bugs:

1. Overaul breaks Mouse scroll weapon selection
2. Multiple LOD failures on APCs (watch videos)
3. M113 machine gun is not useable
4. Desert storm + Overhaul combined make building/shovel/weapon ui overlap
5. Helicopters still have no UI
6. Heli propeller has very low FPS rate

If anybody has anything to add - feel free to reply to this comment

Edit: I didnt expect videos to be that compressed, will repost tommorow

[weary lark]

but the vehicle burning looks cool

[serene hare]

1. infantry UI sometimes gets eaten after respawning or leaving vehicles
2. radio static effect on the Squad comms needs to be toned down

[weary lark]

did anyone get footage of a burning vic

[serene hare]

i got 3 1/2 hours of footage

yes

[weary lark]

OH SHI

[ashen ravine]

Why "but"? Im not saying anything about that

[solar basalt]

yoshi is

https://tenor.com/view/kurt-angle-stare-100-yard-stare-meme-gif-251436459491629941

[serene hare]

im gonna spend the rest of today editing and posting that

[weary lark]

i'm messing with ya

[ashen ravine]

Agreed

Oh shit, also

[wet void]

https://youtu.be/ZO3QymkIosQ?si=r6E2TmcbV0sDQxp9 First

[ashen ravine]

APCs often leave no wreckage after explosion

[serene hare]

https://tenor.com/view/foiled-again-foil-again-cat-kitten-gif-24575588

[weary lark]

it depends if they die at main

wrecks are killed off at main

so it doesn't block the spawning

[ashen ravine]

ah, interesting

Ok then?

By the way

Idk who was riding the heli on first khafji round

But they are chad

Thanks for picking me up when apc got stuck

[serene hare]

3. you suppress yourself when shooting from prone
4. it seems also that when your UI bugs out after spawning/exiting vehicles, so does your local chat attenuation

[wet void]

The icons for the FOBs and Rallys are a little to big now could use a size reduction

[weary lark]

Ya that was not intentional

Ive had the game straight up crash on me

Like 4 times

Never seen that

You would think a bp bug or something wouldnt crash game

[tender quest]

Not happened to me

Might be your hardware but idk

[weary lark]

@here might make unlisted version of mod that is updated more

So people can play while i break shit

[serene hare]

i made a copy

i can hand it out on sketchy flash drives to people

[jagged spire]

https://tenor.com/view/kermit-the-frog-life-boo-dark-side-gif-8397801

[solar basalt]

no floppy disk?

[weary lark]

LOL

[ashen ravine]

Suggestion:
Improve "observation" system.
instead of permanent observation mark in the radial menu, add
Litte icons next to the map in respawn menu.
You can select between "Vehicle", "Outpost" and "Troops" icon. After selecting, click on the map to place a selected mark there.
They will dissapear after time or when new mark is placed:
Troops - after 10 seconds
Vehicle - after 15 seconds
Outpost - after 2 minutes.

Also if you click on the mark it will say how far it is from your position in meters

[jagged spire]

oh yea, I'm happy to announce that the particle doesn't cost much performance

[ashen ravine]

Yuppiie

[neat compass]

bet

[shut echo]

Oh my god yes this shit will ease out the Fob Mortaring so much

[regal turret]

YES

also please, reduce the volume for heli, and make it so you hear them from less far away, it's really overpowering

Show every players name inside vehics

[weary lark]

Holy shit really?

[jagged spire]

as long as you're not on the highest setting then ye

[weary lark]

Anything that does kill frames?
I'm pretty sure the exhaust is kind of expensive for what it is.

[jagged spire]

it does take a few frames away but it didn't take as much as I thought it would

[devout pagoda]

any1 have heli footage?

[regal turret]

https://tenor.com/view/noice-nice-click-gif-8843762

[regal turret]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FySPv6Y_M-c
yes

[weary lark]

Fixed equipment UI not showing. Also fixed not being able to left-click to select equipment.

[solar basalt]

sweet

[loud spire]

Whats your gpu?

[jagged spire]

Intergrated GPU

(none)

[loud spire]

How are you even able to run OHD then?

You need some sort of dedicated gpu unless your using an apu

[jagged spire]

yeah

it's a laptop w/ a crappy proccessor

[ashen ravine]

Hello there fellow laptop user

Oh yea, @weary lark what do you think? About that:

Suggestion:
Improve "observation" system.
instead of permanent observation mark in the radial menu, add
Litte icons next to the map in respawn menu.
You can select between "Vehicle", "Outpost" and "Troops" icon. After selecting, click on the map to place a selected mark there.
They will dissapear after time or when new mark is placed:
Troops - after 10 seconds
Vehicle - after 15 seconds
Outpost - after 2 minutes.

Also if you click on the mark it will say how far it is from your position in meters

[weary lark]

Maybe

Good morning children

I have arisen

[shy nest]

Bro on what potato are u playing 💀

[weary lark]

Hey

[ashen ravine]

No no, hes got a point

[weary lark]

Be nice. Dont be mean to slow compute

[ashen ravine]

No no

I was using my phone to send these videos, and it compressed the hell out of them

[weary lark]

Lol

[solar basalt]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-confused-gif-7441776660901104597

[shut echo]

Yoahi plz, that obsevation mark would ease the mortar adjusment by not having to rely on imbecile teamates or having to to sneaky recon and complicated calculation?

[serene hare]

speaking of icons, a green vehicle icon for vehicles driven by squad members or with squad members in them would be nice

[lime zodiac]

Hope fixing new update won't take another 2+ months

[serene hare]

yoshi and i did some secret testing last night, most of the major issues like the infantry UI and stuff is already fixed

[haughty walrus]

How to spawn the mrap in singlepalyer

Singleplayer*

[ashen ravine]

Lets see if this is any better:

yeah

[ashen ravine]

hey

[serene hare]

it aint public tho, so i dont think anyone else has access to it

[oblique cradle]

surely the wheels disappearing is the result of you playing on shit graphics settings

at least i didnt see nothing while playing

[ashen ravine]

Oh come on

[ashen ravine]

https://discordapp.com/channels/93829266994638848/1110291763941355691/1211390851478200400

here

im not the only one experiencing that problem

[oblique cradle]

oh that yeah agreed

[wet void]

Ive notised during the playtet that the burning state didnt alway work it worked for the first few matches then it didnt later on in some of them

[chilly dragon]

I hope this has been fixed 🙏

[weary lark]

never

[chilly dragon]

DIE

[shy nest]

Sowy

https://tenor.com/view/crying-emoji-dies-gif-21956120

[ashen ravine]

Well then, I hope you always get in this seat when you try to ride a BRDM

[ashen ravine]

[weary lark]

fixed

[ashen ravine]

Yippie

[jagged spire]

https://tenor.com/view/yippee-happy-celebration-joy-confetti-gif-25557730

[weary lark]

@here
I have created an unlisted "dev" version of this mod. The server name is "OHD Vehicle Overhaul Preview". Only 16 slots right now.
Because this is straight up a copy of the normal vehicle mod; you may potentially need to uninstall the normal Overhaul mod to join this server.
You may want to copy the local mod instead of unsubscribing / resubscribing constantly.

The password for the server is BigDaddy because I said so.
Sometimes the server might be on, sometimes not. big oof.

[shut echo]

I mean but you have to side-store the copy and "in and out" it whenever you try to use it;so i guess similiar?

[weary lark]

Yes.

Better than having 1 mod that gets broken for everyone

[shut echo]

Nah i was talking about that sub/de-sub part?

[weary lark]

yes

[ashen ravine]

Uuuuuuh

[weary lark]

Lol wat

That is not on the server

Did you join the right one

[wet void]

the server isent upp atm right? i dont see it

[weary lark]

Ya not up

Its just for testing eheni package

When i package

Better than killing off all the full vic servers

[ashen ravine]

Oh yeah sorry 😅

my bad

i was trying to join this one

it has the same "BigDaddy" password, which is weird

also

have you fixed the infinite zoom bug?

[wet void]

pretty sure its fixed cuse during the playtest it didnt occur ones to me

[serene hare]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/717498714259980378/1212061223273762836/katsup_blast.gif?ex=65f076fa&is=65de01fa&hm=52db26b83682f5ad09f7752496fc52d1c4671d8aacfe53c9ef99173dc0fc1b29&

[weary lark]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-drift-catdrift-gif-16095187850320735968

[weary lark]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-kitty-silly-driving-gif-25780876

What if I made Maxwell the cat a vehicle?

[ashen ravine]

Average OHD overhaul experience after update:

[weary lark]

Dude

Imagine these things on smaller maps:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mTpGhAx-NbY&ab_channel=BSSHolland

[ashen ravine]

Imagine slapping this bad boy on a Toyota:

[weary lark]

All the ui stuff is fixed. Need to look at the vehicle map icons not always showing

Then can prob update

I also added more flame when the vehicles burn.

[weary lark]

My humans.

I have fixed a bunch of bugs and shit.

Release maybe next week or something idk

next playtest

or sooner if i feel like it

But

I have also been experimenting with stuffs

How do you guys feel about doors on the vehicles having some sort of gameplay aspect?

Like you gotta open / close the door or something to get in

Or you get in faster if the door is open

I feel like it would be cool but most games that do anything close to that end up being a pain in the ass and just annoying

[solar basalt]

It’s an interesting idea but I think the better option as far as not becoming an annoyance is just needing to hold f to enter

[weary lark]

ya

maybe instead of limiting people i make it only have benefits

like you can always get in-out with F

but maybe if the door isopen it's faster or instant

[solar basalt]

Yeah that could work

[serene hare]

I mean that still is a nerf to the default system/speed it's just worded differently

I think it might be more useful to focus on an improved turret view model like what was discussed yesterday

[weary lark]

wym

what turret view model

[serene hare]

Where the turret has multiple viewports and the turret can be rotated with wasd while not actively looking down the optic?

[unique arch]

I'm assuming that even with the door open the collision model is still the same which might confusing if you want to throw a few nades into an vehicle with an open door

[serene hare]

Right click to snap to the optic/zoom in

[weary lark]

Oh ya that.

Ya maybe.

Not all vehicles have that though.

Some just have a single optic.

Like a crows on an MRAP.

[serene hare]

I feel that opening doors is a lot of effort refactoring the vehicles for not much pay off when the view model would be more useful and give more differences between vehicles

Yeah, so the striker and mrap would keep their single optic crows optic and the lav, btrs, brdm, etc would have the view model

[weary lark]

No I was going to have it where it would swap the collision mesh, which the vehicles already have to something with essentially no armor where the doors are when they are open. But you still would not be able to throw a nade in it, not without proper interiors.

[weary lark]

Ya maybe I might mess with that more. Also I wouldn't need to really refactor anything this would just be adding stuffs.

[serene hare]

Fair nuff

[unique arch]

ooooo

Ya prob more of a small QOL compared to optics

[weary lark]

@celest marten I put doors in your game before you.

[unique arch]

Finally

Harsh Doors

[weary lark]

Miss your step and you get run over by the wheels.

[fathom pine]

For vehicle controls, have you tried GHPC? Slewing the turret should work like a joystick, if you have that then aiming on moving targets is way easier than squads system

That's my #1 feature request, aiming sucks with the current system in all games that it's implemented in

[weary lark]

Ya I've played the demo for GHPC.

It was wonky at first.

But cool.

Might make it a toggle for people who want it.

[fathom pine]

Def toggle

Having the speed curve be modifiable too would be dope

[weary lark]

PIZZAMAN

[loud spire]

For hmg I always thought it'd be cool if you had some sort of hybrid system. Where you can only move freely with the mouse in lets say a 25 degree angle in front of you, but you can use the a and d keys to rotate the gun to change where the player is facing. So its like a hybrid system where its awkward to 180 turn and kill someone but you can still make small adjustments

[loud spire]

dat me

[weary lark]

I might add more stuffs to the gunner and driver views.

I really like what Arma 3 does where you can cycle between different views.

Like vision blocks and optics.

The BTR-80/82A commander will be interesting.

Because IRL that thing has:

• A front window
• Vision blocks
• A periscope
• Front-facing firing port

[wet void]

Did the LOD bug with the M113 and MT LB get fixed?

[lime zodiac]

[weary lark]

Ye was easy as shit

[chilly dragon]

GHPC turret controls would be cool to have in the future.

[shy nest]

Maybe? Anyone

[weary lark]

One day

[shy nest]

[ashen ravine]

Day ??? Of asking to add
blackhawk side gunners:

[weary lark]

When the helis dont kill server perf

Then i can add features to them

[ashen ravine]

Whats wrong with them?

[lime zodiac]

Yeah what wrong with em yishi?

[serene hare]

They ruin server performance, that's the simplest way to put it. They bring it to a point where with 6 people on, the server is barely avoiding a crash

[weary lark]

I talked with sly about that

He said he got it stuck in a tree

Then the server started shitting

So in that instance i think it might of been the physics shitting out cuz it was halfway inside a tree

[serene hare]

I mean yea but getting a helo stuck in a tree/obstacle doesn't seem like a difficult thing to do

[weary lark]

ya ik

[oblique cradle]

https://tenor.com/view/jeep-off-road-break-gif-17188297

[weary lark]

I'm going to update the "preview" version of the mod for anyone who cares rn

[shut echo]

But where can we can the preview version? Did you create a separate mod site?

[weary lark]

@shut echo You just join the server. It's pinned in this thread.

It's an unlisted mod.

[shut echo]

Ah okay, yeah but you have to upload the server first?

[weary lark]

yos

[shut echo]

When server?

[weary lark]

right now

[shut echo]

Ponch admin moment

[ashen ravine]

Be Ponchivie
admin
activate flying mode
fly to your enemy base
little_trolling.png

[serene hare]

https://medal.tv/games/operation-harsh-doorstop/clips/1Y2jdCsii9Xlzm/d1337C2Hunw7?invite=cr-MSxlVmosMzUzMjU3MSw

[ashen ravine]

Seems like fun

[weary lark]

Potentially fixed the issue with the equipment UI not showing. I legit fixed this last night and now I scuffed it this morning 💀
Also maybe fixed some issues with the vehicle icons not showing. not sure though.
Fixing engines not always being on rn

[weary lark]

LOL WTF

[jagged spire]

tiny men

[weary lark]

@jagged spire online or offline?

I fixed the engine thing

I keep remembering and forgetting that RepNotify stuff is called before beginplay when the actor is first created

[jagged spire]

online

and since most servers still have the outdated version of your mod then...

[solar badger]

Operation harsh doorstart

[weary lark]

fuck

[jagged spire]

oh ya, btw i turned on " camera firstperson" so it might be the cause of the problem.

[weary lark]

can you do that online?

as an admin?

[jagged spire]

you didn't have to be an admin

[weary lark]

w8 what the fuck

[shut echo]

By the way by that copy the Vehicle test local mod and copy it somewhere/copy it you mean this?

[shut echo]

i mean i know but i would need a online server for it

yeah if you downloaded it in game via automatic download

Nah

If it doesn't involve the OHD server browser then i know

aka rhis one:

https://ohdservers.net/

Ok ,now "i hear you"

Maybe send in DM?

[latent iris]

how do i fly a chopper in single player mode ?

i load into prototypes and get that screen

and my files are ok

[shut echo]

Prototype is a outdated map mod, ohd oveehaul and just a regural map(for example jazira bcs it has airport ) will be enough?

[latent iris]

what one do i click to get choppa

[shut echo]

Tweaked AAS

[shut echo]

Yeah

[latent iris]

trucks are there but no choppers

[latent iris]

join online see this

[shut echo]

You need to spawn IT with home butone

[latent iris]

one i can fly ?

talking about that bit

[shut echo]

Yeah

[latent iris]

not loading :/

[weary lark]

I think i fixed the equipment selection UI thing again

I think the HUD blueprint was actually corrupted

tragic

[ashen ravine]

Nope :/

still doesnt work in singleplayer

[ashen ravine]

Also ive noticed that capture points names and progress dont show up in the top right corner.

[ashen ravine]

@weary lark @serene hare
Hello, im currently on the testing server, and Ive found a bug.
The mortars ranging tool doesnt work

Im hitting the text blocks but nothing happens

[serene hare]

using the shovels while standing seems to make it work

crouching or laying down for some reason blocks it

[ashen ravine]

Huh

[serene hare]

yea its a really odd bug

[weary lark]

Gltta love

All the inconsistent bugs

[ashen ravine]

Also sometimes vehicles dont show up on the map..
very strange

[weary lark]

ya this has always been a problem

but you would never notice cuz the vehicle icons were tiny dots

it's actually partly because sometimes they are so far away from your camera that they never spawn in on your computer

[ashen ravine]

Hey people, hello there. I wanna make a little poll here.. would you be comfortable if somebody pinged you, inviting to play on a OHD server? Leave a like if yes.

[weary lark]

I'm LOD biasing all the textures for the vehicles.

So hopefully they don't kill the texture memory budget.

Cuz rn I noticed especially with modded factions that all the textures become blobby.

[soft egret]

Where nerf camo

[ashen ravine]

Yoshi, what do you think about making piloting a heli more comfortable by adding:

1. ability to look around
2. Artificial horizon
3. CAS with useful notifications like
   "Pull up" when obstacle is in front of the helicopter.
   "Altitude" - when descending speed is enough to 1 shot the heli.
   "Bank angle" - when bank angle is too big, like 70-80°

[weary lark]

maybe

they still don't work fully

so i'm not going to add features

to something that only half works

[ashen ravine]

Im not rushing you

Also, what is going on with mouse scroll weapon select

Still doesnt work :((

[shy nest]

https://tenor.com/view/bober-kurwa-wombat-not-a-beaver-beaver-gif-8961649020872801915

[serene hare]

It works with one version and breaks the next, yoshi isn't fully certain why the equipment select is bugged, just that it's not usually because of a change he does

[weary lark]

All you low vram users will be happy

wen i lower all the 4k textures

[weary lark]

I put everything to 2k

Looks exactly the same lol

[latent iris]

could i try fly an helicopter atm i never got to get in one last time the server was up

[fathom pine]

when in doubt, lower resolutions

[serene hare]

In 3 years gaming will use 4x4 textures, no k, just 4 pixels by 4 pixels

[ashen ravine]

Dude, minecraft exists

[jagged spire]

but with a billion objects applied with the 4x4 texture

[ashen ravine]

Bober

[solar basalt]

Games gonna be looking like this #🎥content_creation message

[weary lark]

Boofyass

Cant wait for playtest

[weary lark]

@serene hare UPDATE WEN UPDATE UPDATE UPDATE UPDATE UPDATE WEN

WHEN RED DOT SMALLER

WHEN JET

ALL I WANT ALL NOW

RN AT 8PM

[serene hare]

https://tenor.com/view/soy-soyjak-wojak-soy-boy-gif-23431308

[ashen ravine]

L + ambushed + no air support + wounded + no ammo + ye have ptsd

[ashen ravine]

@serene hare ah yes, shomvles

[ashen ravine]

@weary lark

What the fuck is that!? 😂

[jagged spire]

lol

[wet void]

Will the Overhaul mod be in next Desert Storm playtest or no?

[serene hare]

Yes

[weary lark]

https://tenor.com/view/ass-tickle-gif-21579859

[unique arch]

They don't know I'm not a btr

[bold sparrow]

How do i join preview Server? @weary lark

[unique arch]

Choppa down

[serene hare]

oh lol i blew you up from a heli

[ashen ravine]

@weary lark will there be natural blackhawk spawn on tommorow's playtest?

I dont wanna rely on admins :((

Im not asking for Apache

At least blackhawk?

[shut echo]

Are you still playing ponch?

[ashen ravine]

@weary lark hey dude

can I ask you for a favor

?

Could you please reserve some helicopters for me on tommorow's playtest

Im a good pilot

[weary lark]

no helicopters tomorrow

[ashen ravine]

Sad

Bro said "nuh uh"

Alright

Also, why m113 machinegun still doesnt work???

Im generaly curious, confused, and bamboozled

[solar basalt]

Yeah how am I gonna take down the Apache if my m113 doesn’t have machine gun

[shut echo]

@weary lark The hellfire fires in tandem with the cannon

[serene hare]

https://medal.tv/games/operation-harsh-doorstop/clips/1YqkvVrKjVMXE5/d1337kqqd3fG?invite=cr-MSxzTWMsMzUzMjU3MSw

slam dunked the heli into the ground

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/341831238484623362/1213239805454843994/IMG_1046.jpg?ex=65f4c09e&is=65e24b9e&hm=28c57747198fb97a39eda2dbc08a051a80c46729be4a8693e9bc44921007a870&

[ashen ravine]

Exactly. I mean, I have 2 confirmed heli kills using only mtlb's pkt

Couboo can confirm

[jagged spire]

https://tenor.com/view/foiled-again-foil-again-cat-kitten-gif-24575588

[fathom pine]

Just in server, Helis need some kinda UI indicator that you're booting u or you've turned off the engine. Also it should be a two second hold of the engine key i think, rather than a tap.

[fathom pine]

also, how does the hellfire locking work?

[latent iris]

can i join the preview server please ?

got a password on it

[shut echo]

bigdaddy in CAPS

[latent iris]

fuuu

[serene hare]

Unsub from ohd overhaul, restart and join

[shut echo]

@weary lark Did you show Armscream and other guys how the hwllfire homing works?

[latent iris]

that worked cheers

[tender quest]

By the way I love this gif

[latent iris]

no helicopters then ?

[jagged spire]

yeah it'd shit up the server

[shut echo]

Well, shit, also did you guys talk in the server?

[shut echo]

Is the hellfire susposed to work like this: https://youtube.com/shorts/H9-bi-oEh7o?si=3bZXkYF89TT3R0V2 @weary lark

[weary lark]

Yes

Why not

[wet void]

Hellfires can also be fired directly so having it go straight of the rail isn't unrealistic

[ashen ravine]

@weary lark
Hello! Yoshi, could you please add these asap:

1. Reticle or any other kind of aiming for the apache
2. Press "H" to activate hover mode in blackhawk and apache

These are important for singleplayer

Also apache doesnt take damage from collisions?

Weird

[ashen ravine]

Also what apache fires now is not a hellfire, it is hydra ungided rocket pods

I think that you should be able to switch between guided hellfire antitank rocket snd hydra

[round thistle]

Hover button - one man army 🙂

Admin justice tool. lol

[ashen ravine]

Helicopter is a one-two man army anyway

So why not

Maybe I wanna use both rockets and cannon in singleplayer

Also Hover button would be useful during landing

[round thistle]

I didn't say no, most advanced helicopters have an autohover. I like the idea.

[ashen ravine]

Oh okay 😄

[jagged spire]

execution

[round thistle]

Of course, there should be some restrictions in multiplayer mode, e.g. -50 tickets for heli loss, 2-person crew required and without 100 missiles on board 🙂

[serene hare]

Gunner seat gets the hellfire, pilots seat has the hydras

[ashen ravine]

What?

@weary lark
Hello.
I would like to suggest a whole list of things, either very important that must be added first, or less important, but sould still be added.

First priority:

1. AH-64 must take damage from impact, not only bullets or rockets

2. Add targeting system (with sfx?). There must be a reticle and a locking circle. When vehicle enters the circle, you can shoot hellfire by pressing rmb, the missile will follow vehicle automaticaly

3. Make ammo limited:
   ah-64 single rocket pod carries 19 hydra unguided rockets, so 19 shots total.
   Also there are 4 missile pylons on each wing, so 8 hellfire missiles in total.

4. Ability to refill ammo must be nerfed. Maybe
   Heli payload would only refill when it's standing on the ground on the main spawn

5. UI fixes

Second priority:

1. Adding a smoke trail for hellfire missiles
2. Making a separete apache wreckage model, right now apache uses the blackhawk model
3. Add hellfire guided missile . It can be a pilot secondary weapon.
4. Hover Mode. Activated upon pressing "H". Allows pilot to use mouse to look around while maintainig Roll and Pitch angle.

[round thistle]

I would advise you not to use such phrases because you may not expect anything. 😄

[ashen ravine]

ok

[ashen ravine]

Yeah, i edited, now its not that radical

[ashen ravine]

@weary lark Sorry, can I ask you?
Are there guided rockets on apache right now?

[weary lark]

Lol vlad

[ashen ravine]

I guess no?

[latent iris]

@ashen ravine you playing ?

[ashen ravine]

I will be on the playtest

[latent iris]

im joining

i just got kicked now its not there :/

i just want to fly man

[ember bloom]

Just to be clear, most of those things are not advisable to be done yet.

much of what you asked for would rely on the base game vehicles arriving.

yoshi's time is better spent on work that will not be duplicated

Currently, he is working cooperatively with the other devteam members.

The process they are exploring currently is how the main game loop (play cycle) is affected by vehicles.

5. UI fixes
   lol the whole game needs this so badly, but we don't have a UI specialist. All of the devteam members must wing it.

[latent iris]

😢

who broke the server

[serene hare]

what in the actual fuck lmao

[ashen ravine]

???

Oh great

[ashen ravine]

@weary lark dude

Could you disable some particles

For the next playtest

Wreck Idle burn

Vehicle dust

Like that

The lag is unbeareable😿😪😵

[fathom pine]

Potatoe life.

[ashen ravine]

Yes

Anyway

Its not just me

Many people FPS drops

[serene hare]

yea it was a whole bunch of weird shit causing frame lag

even bluedrake got brought to 5 fps

[dark needle]

would be cool if mod particles could be linked to video settings or have its standalone quality settings

[shadow dove]

What key do I press to get to the machine gunner position of the M113?

[serene hare]

its not available rn

[weary lark]

@hereMight revert or update mod if i feel like it later tonight. need nap. gibb all the bugs and shit that broke here.
Also we need to do a playtest with vanilla factions or factions with no mortars / construction.
to completel isolate any issues with the vic mod.
cuz we can't really test two separate mods at the same time while we are constantly adding features to each one.

[wet void]

[rapid mica]

wait so im confused, where is the apache?

can i get it in singleplayer?

[ashen ravine]

Uhh yeah

PgDown button to summon

Fn + PgDown on laptop

[rapid mica]

and what gamemode?

[ashen ravine]

ohd vehicle preview

[rapid mica]

hmmm

[ashen ravine]

Oh also

You need to download the preview version

It is not availeable in steam yet

[rapid mica]

meaning the developer build?

or the mod

[ashen ravine]

Yup

[rapid mica]

so download the OHD developer build

[ashen ravine]

Yup

[rapid mica]

ok

[ashen ravine]

It is unlisted in stream, good luck downloading it

[rapid mica]

oh never mind then

damn

[loud spire]

This is why it’s such a good idea to be conservative with updates. When you create N new features, they can potentially have a bug with each other. So the amount of bugs scales exponentially with the scale of new features, new possible bugs being N*(N-1).

So scaling back the features by quite a bit and slowly introducing them might be the best bet. (Which I’m sure is what you’re doing, sorry for the lecture, I can’t help myself I’m old)

[weary lark]

Besides the fx causing gpu lag

I think maybe the vics going in and out of relevancy distance might be an issue idk

Its always laggy when you are just leaving main

Maybe all of a sudden tgere is a shit ton of data that everyone gets when vic becomes relevant

[loud spire]

Is it main at the beginning of the game or leaving main consistently throughout the game that causes the lag spike?

[weary lark]

Idk but i feel like its always worsevwhen im first leaving main

But only on large maps

Small maps seem fine

Om small maps the vis prob never leave net cull distance

[loud spire]

It could just be that all those particles are running at once plus all those extra meshes/lods loading in and hogging the cpu.

[weary lark]

No im. Talkinf about server lag

No vfxon server

[loud spire]

Ah then idk

I mean luckily that seems like an issue that doesn’t affect gameplay much

You’re probably not getting into a fire fight at main hopefully

[weary lark]

Not even firefights

Just when all vics leave main

Going towards combat

Always severe rubber banding

[loud spire]

Maybe it’s when the rival vehicles suddenly get relevant like you said. And you get a lag spike. I guess what you could do is stagger the spawn times so the stronger apcs come in later like how squad handles tanks.

Or maybe even just increasing the relevancy distance for certain vehicles and keeping others the same

[wet void]

Wouldn't reducing the number of vehicles on each side make that issue les taxing?

[loud spire]

That too

[wet void]

Cuse if i remember correctly we never had that issue on Khafji 4k with 6 vehicles on each side

Then again the effects didn't get changed

[loud spire]

Was the server lag consistent? Or just fps lag?

[wet void]

Honestly as long there wasn't a heli flying around server would stay stable

[loud spire]

Yah the I be willing to bet that the fx is a killer. Then just stagger the net cull distance so that vehicles become relevant at different intervals so you don’t overload the server at the beginning of the match

[ashen ravine]

Average M113 experience:
https://youtube.com/shorts/7mZlxvPvDH0?si=HAlorrTw99oOYgEc

[regal turret]

@weary lark how do you do your interact widget that shows up in the viewport when people are looking at a vehicle ?
iirc 3D world icons are expensive, but i guess if you only have one at a time

[weary lark]

Not 3d world icon

2d screeen space widget

Like capture icons

Distance checks staggered onna timer

Only checks for frkendly vics

[regal turret]

ah i c

[weary lark]

I might remove all fx for now

[regal turret]

https://tenor.com/view/operation-teapot-nuke-nuclear-explosion-nuclear-test-nuclear-footage-gif-15618232923822161090

[weary lark]

Idk maybe cuz the emitters live forever + are ATtached to vic

[regal turret]

no idea man, @abstract sluice maybe can help with performance and particles

[weary lark]

Or maybe the bounds are borked

Always rendering idk

[regal turret]

stagered you mean like this ?

[weary lark]

kind of

with variance on the timer

[regal turret]

y ? whats the purpose ?

[weary lark]

dude i tired to spawn 100 btrs

i crashed my editor

🤣

[weary lark]

reverted boi for the second time ...

need break

not feeling it rn

tragic

adding too much features all at once

who would of saw this coming /s

[chilly dragon]

Yeahh-h, maybe small updates are better for PC's sanity

[wet void]

I got some nudes from Ponchovie if you need motivation tell me and ill mail you them

[ashen ravine]

Nuh uh, I aint downloading gachimuchi

[ashen ravine]

@weary lark also forgot to tell you:
The explosion caused by vehicle being destroyed causes a lot of lag. Im talking about that "white smoke cloud" type of explosion. This is probably because current explosion uses a lot of separate particles for smoke and for flying ashes. Perhaps you could instead make use of RPG type of explosion - it uses a single animated sprite and causes much less lag

[shut echo]

@weary lark Where you at?

[wet void]

hes beating his meat give him some time 😊

[weary lark]

Ya this is a vanilla effect that i used. The shader complexity with all the overdraw on that is like +15k ...

[ashen ravine]

So, are you going to do something about that?

[wet void]

man is holding him at gun pointe 💀

*Are you gonna do something bout it ? *

[ashen ravine]

Hahaha lol

[severe pendant]

Let him edge in peace

[ashen ravine]

https://youtube.com/shorts/1NGbCfKXXSQ?si=7BoxON7-fyyIEG6u

[wet void]

https://tenor.com/view/humhum-big-boy-gif-23478967

[weary lark]

Meow

https://tenor.com/view/kitty-cute-meow-cat-kitten-gif-16741198

[solar basalt]

they spinning

[ashen ravine]

What?

[solar basalt]

no what. spin

[ashen ravine]

https://youtube.com/shorts/H7jTwyl1sKI?si=_S3qasCgfXG2p6ZV

[weary lark]

lol\

[oblique cradle]

https://tenor.com/view/shane-rick-shane-and-rick-shane-and-rick-car-shane-and-rick-car-scene-sad-gif-27155999

[loud spire]

You good, don’t be discouraged. Big learning involves Big pain sometimes but that’s how you tell that your learning. I don’t learn a thing till it smacks me in the face

[ashen ravine]

@weary lark

[latent iris]

what is the helicopter keys?

[ashen ravine]

@weary lark

[ashen ravine]

Space - go up
Left ctrl - go down
lmb - fire hydra when in pilot seat (F1)
lmb - fire turret when in gunner seat (F2)
your "point aim" button (check control settings) - fire hellfire when in gunner seat.
Mouse - Roll/Pitch
A/D - Rotate left/right
Your "prone" button - hover mode

[weary lark]

Server will be kept on

So people can play with apache

[wet void]

You might wanna change the LAV spawner hot key cuse when you try to move a vehichle and yer an admin you spawn a LAV

[shut echo]

Oh the CTRL is deffault lower altitude button in heli's
, OK

[ashen ravine]

Yoshi I've been thinking about controls for helicopters and I've concluded:
The controls must be either fully binded to the actions button (prone, jump, lean buttons, etc)
Or they should be independent, not cutomisable and same for everyone.

I prefer fixed controls, because:

1. no matter what controls you have, they dont affect the heli controls
2. its much easier to explain the controls that way.

For example - me.
I had my prone set to left ctrl, which resulted in hover and down button overlapping each other.
And I really dont wanna change my controls.

This is why I propose new (fully fixed) control scheme:

W/S - up/down (they are unused anyway)
A/D - turn left/right (no change)
H - hover
Lmb - fire primary
Rmb - fire secondary
Middle mouse button - fire hellfire
Q - zoom
E - engine

Note: Control list in the heli ui should be updated to math actual controls

[weary lark]

Thats cool and all

But i made the hellfires better

6km range now lol

And

C O C K P I T V I E W

S O O N

[vast parcel]

yessir

[chilly dragon]

Yoshi speed running breaking his mod with to meny features

[vast parcel]

sooo many tryhard in heli server

[latent iris]

game keeps crashing for some reason

wasnt doing it lastnight

[round thistle]

playtest server?

[latent iris]

yea i will start to fly then games crashes then closes

[ashen ravine]

Damn

For some reason you cant hear when you're being damaged

[weary lark]

Prob sound priority issue

[latent iris]

server down now ?

[solar basalt]

yoshis is gonna have to restart it after the patch

[latent iris]

https://tenor.com/view/yes-yas-excited-baby-cheering-gif-12101861

[weary lark]

Restarted server.

Don't know why it pooped like that.

[solar basalt]

game updated

https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/736590/view/4151826831550979496?l=english

[latent iris]

server is not up @weary lark

[weary lark]

added new mod

[latent iris]

see because you have made helicopters fly ingame in the future could you make some drones ?

[weary lark]

I made drones a long time ago

They are disabled

[latent iris]

are we able to play with them in single player mode ?

[weary lark]

Oh shi

The update

You can edit jump stamina now

Omg

I mean jump +sprint stamina

Im shitting

[latent iris]

fall damage ?

[weary lark]

Lol no

My zoom thing

[latent iris]

for those times we press f mid flight

can you make a parachute ?

[weary lark]

I can make it deplete stamina

[latent iris]

wonder how that would work

[round thistle]

Turbo Stamina bar for heli

[weary lark]

restarting server

adding map

[latent iris]

@round thistle you kicking

awww

[weary lark]

some of the maps were borked

[latent iris]

was nice playing plastic faction there

[round thistle]

no, I'm not even there

[latent iris]

decent mod yoshi well done

are the jets going to be a part of the mod at somepoint?

[weary lark]

will add back later

the plastic factions

[latent iris]

does khafji work with the helicopters ?

[shut echo]

@round thistle Will you come?

[latent iris]

https://tenor.com/view/kamala-harris-do-not-come-gif-25102112

[round thistle]

Man, everything for my gunner. lol

[shut echo]

i mean but if we wont have any enemy Apache,s it doesnt make sense bcs honetsly i can kill the Bots myself in Hover position

[round thistle]

I'm already tired of killing bots from heli.

Now more action with gunners

[shut echo]

so we got a "dueling" buddies for the server "play"

[round thistle]

without hellfire's

[shut echo]

I mean i would get tired too, with you its jsut more dynamic bot killing

@round thistle Ok im coming

[round thistle]

I'll be soon

[shut echo]

@weary lark Are you just Admin "bullshiting" or are you playing?

[weary lark]

playing

lol

[rapid mica]

?

i deleted big learning yesterday

now my ohd vehicle overhaul is missing

?

[round thistle]

Enough for me, is 20 vs 20 bots now, the server started drop fps with 32 vs 32

[solar basalt]

The message tells you what to do, just follow the instructions

[tender quest]

Pervert Gaming is a crazy name

[solar basalt]

Didn’t even pay attention to the name but yeah

[weary lark]

I'm updating the preview-version of the mod.

• Fixed Not being able to quit Apollo in singleplayer mode.

• Made Hellfires 6KM range

• Added better UI for the pilot/gunner of the apache.

• Added cockpit view for pilot and gunner

• Can be used with your SwitchFireMode keybind, default X on a QWERTY keyboards

[vast parcel]

solid brother

[weary lark]

sike

i added another feature

i added trajectory symbology for the pilot

it shows the arc where the hydras will land

[jagged spire]

unrealistik!!!!

https://tenor.com/view/foiled-again-foil-again-cat-kitten-gif-24575588

[weary lark]

OK more features

• Fixed hydra fx being fucking wrong

• ADDED NEW SOUNDS

• engine start/stop sounds

• changed handling because i can

• doppler effect for helicopter

[weary lark]

@hereOK I actually updated the preview-version of the mod. Server is updated.

[round thistle]

Morning 🙂

[round thistle]

Thx, on my way.

Yoshi, bigger map on server, please

[round thistle]

Nice work, the SFX is so cool, all is cool.

[shut echo]

@weary lark How about we make the Laser Designator (which the commander has and could have anpther kit for (example some F.O like thing)) from Ponche's DSF work for laser guiding hellfire's

[solar basalt]

no idea what made it bug out so bad lol

[round thistle]

It was same for me.

[shut echo]

The green traingle thing is the doppler?

[round thistle]

@weary lark If you can add Rublivka on server, is light map and cool to fly

why?

but we can change the maps when we want

and I like to test how is works with ppl on server

[jagged spire]

It's up to you tho

[round thistle]

is no map cycle there, we pick the maps by hands

[jagged spire]

yea

[latent iris]

@weary lark you broke the helicopters bud

need a little bit more power imo feels hard to climb

[round thistle]

He know, was a just test.

[latent iris]

ok i wasn't on earlier on when the update was done

[quiet walrus]

Coming soon™

[ashen ravine]

Yoshi, want a live hack for future?

Mi-24 can be used as an attack helicopter

AND it can hold up to 8 troops if i rember correctly

So when you'll be adding a n opfor helicopters, remember this post and dont waste time on mi-8

[unique arch]

noo I neeed my Hip

https://tenor.com/view/dcs-dcs-world-mi8-gif-25361145

[dark needle]

I just want to be sent out from a heli riding a motor

[latent iris]

have we got more power yet ?

[ashen ravine]

Be careful with the tone dude. I once asked something similiar and they charged me with hostage taking lol

[rapid mica]

any reason why my ohd vehicle overhaul wont show up in my singleplayer menu

[solar basalt]

If you just downloaded it off a server it doesn’t show up in the SP menu

[latent iris]

is the helicopter server down now ?

[solar basalt]

Can’t find it?

[latent iris]

yea

[solar basalt]

Yeah looks like it might be

[latent iris]

😢

[rapid mica]

so does it appear on everyone elses singleplayer?

or is it just mine that wont show up

[ashen ravine]

Well it does, but when you quit the game it disappears

[weary lark]

idk why tf the server was off

turned back on

[ashen ravine]

Its about drive, its about power

[rapid mica]

ohh i see

[solar basalt]

got any modded maps on the server?

cuz i thought i saw you added mogadishu but didnt work to server travel

[latent iris]

thanks yoshi

[weary lark]

nah i wanna keep the mod downloads small

[solar basalt]

fair enough

[shut echo]

@weary lark What is the alternate pilot cokcpit view suposed to be?

[weary lark]

pilot: hold x to free look
gunner: press x to toggle between gun optic view and in-cockpit view

[shut echo]

oh free look,

with mouse turning

got it

[weary lark]

I'm doing it.

KA-52 for OpFor.

Also MI-8 maybe.

And also main-base AA defenses.

No more hellfires into main.

You will be evaporated by the CIWS.

https://tenor.com/view/ciws-gif-23706315

https://tenor.com/view/raytheon-rtx-phallax-phalanx-ciws-ciws-gif-1414936095510698976

[solar basalt]

https://tenor.com/view/shots-fired-smoke-shoot-gif-15613699411221306633

[shut echo]

Could you do a mi24 just for the DSFP sake (and also for the fact that we have a "regular" 64A or 64B apache and not the special "D" LONGBOW one?

[weary lark]

I need model.

Then I will do.

[shut echo]

No mi24d model on vigilante?

[weary lark]

no

[shut echo]

"SHUCKS"

[unique arch]

Is there a way to get in the gunner seat

[solar basalt]

F2 key

[unique arch]

Is there a key to hover yet

[solar basalt]

Prone but it’s a little bit bugged

When I press prone I see me in my heli fall do to ground even though I am hovering

Switching to gunner seat “fixes” it

[unique arch]

k thx

Are the stingers working

I don't hear the lock tone

[solar basalt]

You got the cannon (left click) and the hellfire (right click)

[unique arch]

Sorry I mean for the anti air kit

[magic stream]

there's one in war thunder. Can be ripped

[solar basalt]

Oh right

Think it just acts like a regular rpg

[weary lark]

no it's proper AA

I need to update for it to work

[solar basalt]

I’m thinking of something completely different then

Isn’t the stinger in warriors faction?

https://tenor.com/view/what-why-huh-steve-harvey-confused-gif-3998567347368525851

Or wait maybe warrior had man pad

[weary lark]

yes it is

i need update for it to work

[solar basalt]

Oh ok

I think I’m understanding

[wet void]

Is it possible to make the distinct sounds of the Ka-52 ingame? https://youtu.be/i90afxVObO4?si=V80V4Zi87oHVaqFK

[jagged spire]

insurgents with attack heli💀

[wet void]

Real

[weary lark]

Apparently this thing has a lock on jammer or something

What if i made both the pilot and gunner

Able to control the heli

[wet void]

[weary lark]

AT THE SAME TIME

[wet void]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-black-crazy-shakehead-gif-22713692

[weary lark]

Wtf y not

[jagged spire]

pet-able cat when?

[wet void]

how would that even work?

[weary lark]

After boats

[weary lark]

You can both pilot at the same time

If i move left and you move right it will just cancel

[wet void]

nah ill prefer if the heli splits in halv

halv for me

halv for you

[lime zodiac]

[weary lark]

Nah

I will make optoonal

[jagged spire]

but.... 1/2 of a heli is a nonfunctioning heli

[weary lark]

No

You can pilot on your own

But i can also pilot

Its like irl

You both get joysticks

[wet void]

4 joysticks

[weary lark]

2 cyclic

2 collective

But its good if pilot dies

Other can immediately take over

[wet void]

can a pilot even be shot out currently? aint da glass bullet proff ingame rn ,not irl

[wet void]

a Ka-52 would still be ale to fly if that happend to it

the tail part

mostly

[weary lark]

Yup

Rn its bulletproof sort of

[lime zodiac]

Irl is not bullet proof so pilots can eject

[weary lark]

But you can still die even if bulletproof

Like from autocannon to glass

Cockpit is not stopping autocannon

[jagged spire]

cause it doesn't have a tail rotor

[wet void]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-fight-gif-10290761239041307136

[weary lark]

I wanna make the ejection seats work

[wet void]

I know

[weary lark]

Like when it starts burning

It will eject

[jagged spire]

https://tenor.com/view/eject-abort-mission-run-away-gif-13018189

[weary lark]

He shidded

Also i think the duel pilot is needed more for ka52

Cuz the stupid turret doesnt yaw

You gotta turn the whole fucjing heli to shoit

[ashen ravine]

will they target missiles? If they do, could they say "INCOMING INCOMING INCOMING" ?https://youtu.be/IpMu3xgio9o?si=Qp0UTL7ZMLZPTdeh

like

only when targeting missiles

[sturdy flax]

Russian heli gonna have support for skiing?

[shut echo]

Is the Stinger in Warrior's Hycarnia

[sturdy flax]

Yos

[ashen ravine]

Ey Yowshee,

[shut echo]

@sturdy flax When we are on the "tone of" adding kits bcs of Heli's, could you make a pilot kit?

[sturdy flax]

That would prob be on the vic overhaul end

Inject a kit into faction and swap to it as driver or something

passes to Yoshi

[shut echo]

I mean but yoshi doesn't have faction's "in his mod/tied to his mod"?

[shut echo]

@weary lark What do you say?

[oblique cradle]

https://tenor.com/view/squad-helicopter-squadcopter-flying-body-game-physics-gif-16335526

[sturdy flax]

He doesn't but it's possible to inject kits from the gamemode

[latent iris]

@weary lark can we get a little bit more power

nothing crazy just like 5% more its really hard to pull up and to slow down

[weary lark]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-yos-gif-11588732

[ashen ravine]

@weary lark I couldnt find operation hyrcania page in discord. May I ask here?

Hod do manpads work?

[latent iris]

there is more stuff ?

[ashen ravine]

well

Operation hyrcania adds AA rifleman

[latent iris]

i know of the 2 helicopters and f1 and f3

[ashen ravine]

manpad is a Portable air defence rocket launcher

You may have seen this bad boy in game

Right now they seem to work just like regular anti-tank

[latent iris]

not seen that ingame yet

[solar basalt]

They don’t yet, Yoshi has the update his mod first

[latent iris]

have you done it ?

[weary lark]

Aight update is delayed by +1 month

for no particular reason

[jagged spire]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cat-meme-funnt-cat-black-cat-sleepy-cat-gif-16409614852005252877

[solar basalt]

Have you done it?

[latent iris]

im sorry

i dont know if its me but it feels like there is less power now

[solar basalt]

https://tenor.com/view/huh-cat-huh-m4rtin-huh-huh-meme-what-cat-gif-27377993

Yeah… he changed some stuff and has changed some more stuff but he has to update the mod

[latent iris]

i understand that

this is how i dont like asking its supporters only now 😦

[solar basalt]

Ok

[solar basalt]

Wdym?

[solar basalt]

Oh interesting

[latent iris]

how do you become a supporter ?

[solar basalt]

Donating

Patreon/discord/YouTube memberships

Might get the password for that server through a steam DLC too
Yeah the donator dlc which also gives access too the devbuild

[jagged spire]

Snatch it from monthly devblog

[latent iris]

what do you mean ?

do i get that

[jagged spire]

yes

[solar basalt]

Yeah this gives you access to some private servers (donator DLC is one of a few ways to get it)

Just through a password iirc

[shadow dove]

Will the Apache have a thermal imaging mode?

[jagged spire]

There's a hidden key in every devblog

[solar basalt]

Yeah, 4 hidden keys

[shut echo]

Is it only availible for supporters to see?

[jagged spire]

sadly yea

[shut echo]

Also are there two server variants then?

[latent iris]

how does the key work

[solar basalt]

In the dev blogs there are 4 steam keys cut up and spread throughout it

[shut echo]

From devblog, bcs that's already taken

[solar basalt]

They work like regular steam keys

But yeah they don’t last long

[jagged spire]

You mean devblog?

[solar basalt]

Yeah lol

Mb

[shut echo]

Yeah somebody took the "dev key" imidiatly, but not the DLC keys(ask how i know)?

[solar basalt]

Which dlc did you snag?

[shut echo]

All except the "dev one"?

[solar basalt]

Oh nice

[shut echo]

Yeah my theory is than now everybody does after the supporter one and dont care about other's

[solar basalt]

Can’t tell which is which by the steam key

[shut echo]

@weary lark Will there be a "pleb" server?

[solar basalt]

So probably just happened grab that one and not any others

[shut echo]

Well but the first one was definetly the supporter one, that dude before me got lucky

[latent iris]

best no be calling me a pleb

[shut echo]

Also the next devblog when i unlocked the one's i got it will just inform me i already have them?

[shut echo]

I called myself that too,chill bro im just joking

[latent iris]

im sorry for asking for more power thought that is what you do when you feel like there a problem

[solar basalt]

Don’t have to be sorry just no need to ask multiple times and get answers multiple times 🤷‍♂️

[latent iris]

i do understand its not easy as typing in +5% there is math's involved only reasion i asked if he did it yet was because i was afk all day

im not demanding he does it right then and there i only asked before i jump into the game

[ashen ravine]

I was wondering..
but now...

Its all coming together!

[shut echo]

@round thistle you hear this?

[round thistle]

Nothing I can do about, but for me is ok, no more random guys killing everybody with hellfire when we testing stuff.

[shut echo]

So you buying the dev DLC now?

[round thistle]

I have dev build.

[jagged spire]

same with me

tho, yea it kinda sucks that not everyone can play on the server

[latent iris]

got the dev build now

cant get rid of me that easy

do i still need the free version or can i uninstall that ?

[solar basalt]

Dev build won’t have the regular servers

[jagged spire]

don't

uninstall

main

build

[latent iris]

ok

[ashen ravine]

I wonder if "no particular reason" is called "Nayfun"? 🤨🧐

[latent iris]

look im sorry ok i asked for a little bit more speed

iirc you where shooting down people who where flying

[ashen ravine]

You are excused

Maybe

[latent iris]

all i was doing was flying and shoting rockets at ai then crashing because there is no power it was ideal the other day when it first came out

https://tenor.com/view/cher-turn-back-time-time-machine-oops-oh-well-gif-17650330

i would not have asked for more power

[ashen ravine]

Boring. This is what singleplayer is for.

[latent iris]

and if there was a update before jumping into game

[solar basalt]

Not really

[latent iris]

there is no choppers in singleplayer

[solar basalt]

Helis can feel different in sp and mp

[shut echo]

Well my card is having some problem ,can you use debit card for payment

[ashen ravine]

Hahaha

Naive mortal

[latent iris]

is there ?