#Operation: Phoenix

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granite berry
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this pack will contain most csgo maps playable for ohd but it will take me abit of time as im not always free

distant root
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rip, or recreation?

granite berry
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rip

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straight from csgo

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might have to release it this coming thursday cause i need a better plugin

distant root
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big oof

fluid current
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@granite berry Have you tried Hammuer?

granite berry
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cant afford it

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not until Wednesday

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otherwise id have this mod done in like 30 minutes

fluid current
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Be careful, as OHD doesn't allow editor plugins. I was tasked to do them about a year ago but it slipped my mind

granite berry
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yeh

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well you see

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you use it on a binary build of 4.25 then migrate it to the ohd build

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:))

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its what i always do

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since both share same version

fluid current
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let me know if it worked as I had so many problems doing that

granite berry
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really?

fluid current
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Yes

granite berry
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well i first gotta try buy it lmao

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cause rn i have this

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but its gonna be a pain texturing it

fluid current
granite berry
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o

fluid current
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an old old version this is like 2 years old

granite berry
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oh

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i can easily get it working

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i know some magic

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kk doing it rn

fluid current
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@ me when you got something cool

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good luck

granite berry
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thanks

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wait @fluid current

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what was the settings used to do the import part?

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i remember there being a video on it

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nvm i found it

distant root
# distant root big oof

just a psa, ripping stuff from games (thats fine) and redistributing it, is not really well received in modding communities

granite berry
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yeah

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well csgo allows that

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as alot of people do fanmade content on it

distant root
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oO

granite berry
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like even animations

distant root
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allows it? or dont drag you to court

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there is a world of difference

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legally

granite berry
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well if you make it paid

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then yes

distant root
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and morally (as in modding communities dont like it)

granite berry
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sued

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it has to be free or else valve would come at u

fluid current
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CSGO wouldn't care its used on the workshop, worst they can do is ask us to remove the workshop submission

distant root
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well

granite berry
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or that

distant root
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they can do it themselves

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they wont ask OHD devs

granite berry
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yeah true

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as they own steam

distant root
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they police their (THE) workshop

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^^

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if they receive a C&D letter

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they wont forward to OHD devs

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they HOST the content

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they are legally responsible

granite berry
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yeah

distant root
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anyway it's true that valve is way more legnant regarding modding and ripping stuff

granite berry
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tbh

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valve loves modding xD

distant root
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i mean

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CS and TF2 made them butt load of money

granite berry
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well maybe

distant root
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hard to not love it 😄

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but its true that the gaben is a special beast

fluid current
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To be honest, they wont bat an eye at OHD workshop, it's not making any money, you're not selling the assets etc look at Gmod, they take content from all AAA games and are not bothered about it, due to the fact its community made and doesn't hold any weight to the actual game development

granite berry
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also they allow there ripped content in youtube animations

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so ill be fine

fluid current
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I've made maps on gmod with thousands and thousands worth of assets from AAA games and have been fine

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So don't worry, port them you'll be ight

granite berry
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all hail gabe

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this part takes ages

fluid current
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Doing that wrong

granite berry
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fr?

fluid current
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Easier ways to do that to get content yes

granite berry
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oh

fluid current
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Compile the actual map with simple bsp, use vide to pack the content into the bsp and then use vide again to extract the content

granite berry
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o i see

fluid current
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the extracted content will be all you need for that map

granite berry
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ye

distant root
# fluid current To be honest, they wont bat an eye at OHD workshop, it's not making any money, y...

it's not just about selling assets, i couldnt care less about it, OHD devs also. You do you, aint your mom or lawyer.

What im saying is : Ripping asset without explicit rights to do so, and distributing them: is really not accepted in a lot of modding communities. it's a question of morality NOT legality !
Especially if it's ripping asset from other modders,** it's a big NO NO**

Though you are right Valve is a special case, which id say is maybe the only one where id say it's gine

granite berry
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well im doing csgo characters for each faction too if i get to that stage

fluid current
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Do it

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Get all the content

granite berry
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so uh

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3 years?

fluid current
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¯_(ツ)_/¯

granite berry
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then ill be done

fluid current
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Go and look at 3klicksphilp

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He has a website with all the CSGO maps decompiled without protection for you to use

granite berry
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o

fluid current
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I've been in the source game for 6 years now

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its boring

granite berry
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thats true

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did u hear about csgo2

fluid current
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Not fussed

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Dont play any source games anymore

granite berry
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heard its just a remaster

fluid current
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It'll look good but wont play the same

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nothing will beat the og cs

granite berry
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yeh

granite berry
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best song ever tho

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only og's know

distant root
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damn

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brings me back

granite berry
granite berry
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so its gonna take abit longer as the program had some issues

granite berry
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@distant root

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some reason they dont work well XD

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also @fluid current how did you get yours to work fully

distant root
granite berry
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dw xD

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my issue was that video

granite berry
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still trying to get it right

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this time im trying a new map

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maybe smashy still has the old ones

granite berry
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Operation:CSGO

granite berry
granite berry
granite berry
distant root
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ayyy

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y no workshop

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650Mb not too big 👍

granite berry
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cause xD

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its not fully ready

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just testing it rn

distant root
granite berry
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ah

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tell me if it works tho

distant root
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trash internet, just chilling right now

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might give it a whirl tomorrow

distant root
granite berry
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yeah

pearl night
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@granite berry how do u rig weapons from other games?

granite berry
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magic

pearl night
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Awww I wanna become a magician

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Could ya tell me?

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No seriously can I do it from blender?

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Import animations?

granite berry
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@obsidian obsidian

granite berry
fickle vine
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this goes hard

granite berry
granite berry
granite berry
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i think i figured out my issue lol

plucky valve
indigo flint
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Who’s down for a Fortnite/cs mix

fringe musk
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no one

ebon ridge
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This is awesome, keep up the good work. I also wish to make a mod that also ports different sounds in too. How difficult was that from a noob ue4 standpoint?

indigo flint
granite berry
granite berry
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if you know how to extract assets from other games then it should be easy

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like for me i know how to do cod extracts fortnite and alot more

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i also decompile unity games to make them work

ebon ridge
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Wicked awesome. I have sounds for the mode/faction id want to make. Would it be a faction?

granite berry
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yeah

granite berry
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mirage looking hawt

granite berry
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ok so

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i have a weight paint plugin that does voxel based

maiden finch
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I know and because of that

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I am on my way to your home to launch high explosive M406 rounds into the kitchen

granite berry
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xD

maiden finch
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I will show you a better way

granite berry
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what way

maiden finch
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The best way

granite berry
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i did try Manuel painting and man it sucked

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didnt know what bone to paint

maiden finch
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Weight Painting really isn't hard, you just need reference images

granite berry
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ahh

maiden finch
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The more you do it, the more you get used to it, also using auto weight paint isn't a bad if you're using it as a base and planning to clean it up properly afterwards

granite berry
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yeah

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gosh this takes for ever

maiden finch
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Are they all separate meshes?

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Like how broken up is one character

granite berry
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its all the player models

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and fp arms and weapons

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so its importing around 500 fbx's

maiden finch
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So there's the body, arms and that's it

granite berry
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yes

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arms are sep

maiden finch
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Good

granite berry
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body is u know

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412 to be honest

maiden finch
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Really aids

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What does dropped even mean

granite berry
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dropped models

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like on the ground

maiden finch
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oh

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So 3P view models basically

granite berry
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or ones you pick up

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yeah

distant root
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lower poly i assume for perf reasons

granite berry
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yes

tender dirge
maiden finch
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Valve aids

granite berry
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they would be low poly

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yes

maiden finch
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3P is always lower poly

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than 1P

granite berry
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also for rigging

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i use game rig tools unreal engine module

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the best

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it creates the best manny rig

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but then again weight paint is the main issue

granite berry
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i heard maya does better weight painting

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but na

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imma stick to blender

maiden finch
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Honestly, depends on the skill. You can do good weight painting in blender, anyone can

granite berry
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true

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so wait

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u wanted my model right

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i gotta rerig it first

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as im redoing the skeleton

maiden finch
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No you dont

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Send the OG model, and the OHD skeleton with a OHD mesh attached

granite berry
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the og model?

maiden finch
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The vanilla version of the model, with the skeleton

granite berry
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what one

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the halo one?

maiden finch
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It doesn't matter, for CSGO

granite berry
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cause thats not part of it xD

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oh wait

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i know what you mean

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the one from csgo files

maiden finch
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Yes

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It probably is in SMD format

granite berry
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with its none edited skeleton

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i got you

maiden finch
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Which is perfect

granite berry
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na

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i goti t in fbx

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but i can send the other format

maiden finch
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From where

granite berry
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so mdl

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source file

maiden finch
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Ohhhh you got it as a fbx instead of SMD

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Send me SMD

granite berry
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i got mdl

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they dont use smd

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xD

maiden finch
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Yes, you can decompile from mdl to SMD

granite berry
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wait use this

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this is for source files

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enable it on your blender and u can import the mdl

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and this is the og file

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ill get the hd skeleton

maiden finch
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Do you not have the SMD tools for blender?

granite berry
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na

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i just use mdl

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its even better

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i can even do this wait

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u can use the browse game feature

maiden finch
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SMD has that too, but if it works it works

granite berry
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yeah

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both work fine i think

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you then get this

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just know it will be in the wrong axis

maiden finch
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I'm already getting errors importing

granite berry
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fr?

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what one

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lmao

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let me send you a fbx version for now

maiden finch
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Wait I think I fixed it

granite berry
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oh

maiden finch
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Do i need a certain version of blender

granite berry
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maybe

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im running v3

maiden finch
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I'm on the latest version of blender, please get the SMD tools

granite berry
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ye

maiden finch
granite berry
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i already have that

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xD

granite berry
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my files are only in mdl tho

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dunno why

maiden finch
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I'd say send as an FBX but idk if that'd cause issue

granite berry
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like its all mdl

maiden finch
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My brother in Christ you have anims loaded

granite berry
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i do?

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xD

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oops

maiden finch
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I have disabled it

granite berry
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ah okk

maiden finch
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Send OHD mesh

granite berry
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i cant

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as im stuck on importing my fbx files

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there was one released tho

maiden finch
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Well lmk when you acquire it, I will be playing the game

granite berry
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yeh

granite berry
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Operation: Phoenix

distant root
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Ah good you renamed it, was gonna mention it, when we talked about valve 😄

granite berry
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we are back with updated csgo2 models!

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ill keep you guys updated

tender dirge
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🔥

granite berry
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i finally got mirage to work

vivid lake
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Though does ohd have rules in terms of mod projects regarding this? Would like to know now, cause my project will def be using ripped assets

distant root
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and also i dont care what you do, im not your lawyer or mom

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but we dont want to hear about it in here or in our community

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it may be like that in other community, but in here we dont like it when ripping(and more specifically distributing assets from company or other modders, big no no)

vivid lake
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Well ok then lmfao

maiden finch
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Most communizes are okay with it, there are some that aren't though, like Squad . I'm a Fallout modder, so it's generally accepted here

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Y'all don't like it, but the owner of the game is highly promoting a Star Wars mod that has ripped assets, I'm confused

granite berry
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so am i

distant root
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and it's not against the law

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On the other side, there are TOS for Discord and Steam workshop that modder have accepted, again read goomes messages : #🏆show-and-tell message

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there isnt much to be confused about, i would rather have a 'sane' modding community where the work of other people and rights are respected.
I couldnt care less about ripping assets of huge companies, it's something you can do, to look at how they did stuff learn from it.
The red line is redistributing asset without the rights or an explicit agreement.
Valve is known to not care at all and pretty friendly to modders (but again this isnt a Legal advice or a valid legal ruling it's just something that poeple have done forever and valve never bothered taking modders to court)
Other companies 'looks' alright with it : IT DOESNT MEAN IT'S OK TO DO IT , it just means they are not 'threatened' by a little mod that'll be downloaded by a few people. if your goal is to upload a janky mod that no one will play, you are probably fine, the company will never hear about it.
Though it's a bad plan imho, if your mod blow up Battle royale style or Dayz, and your stuff is full of stolen shit... what then?

Also you bring up Starwars, perfect example, Disney is known to sue the shit of anything that moves.... i personally wouldnt spend hours and hours on a mod that has any link to that company or their IP...
Just to receive a C&D letter wrote by a lawyer in 2 min that just destroy all that work in a matter of a sec...
And it's not just if you use ripped asset and distribute them. If you use their name in any way, or use any reference to something from their universe, or use any likeness, you know how theses laywers are they can twist anything.

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Also if people start doing it with companies, they'll start doing it with other modders work, and it's just creating a bad modding community imho

I'd rather see original quality content made by people , adding value to their mod, and to the game itself instead of having a ton of mods with stolen content , half assed stuff.

maiden finch
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You somewhat missed the point, BD make content on anything he wants sure, but you can't speak for everyone when you say the community is against using ported assets. When not even I have really seen complaints and raised awareness about it, and when quite literally the creator of the game is promoting a Star Wars mod...

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You personally don't like it, and personally wouldn't make said choices, not the general sum. If modders start taking assets from other modders, they're going to get reprimanded for it and DMCA, it's obviously not tolerated unless given permissions, and I don't see cases like that really at all.

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You can make quality content that's owned by an IP, custom by the way, add value to your mod and to the game itself with our without custom assets. To be fair, no disrespect to the respective modders, but some mods I've seen look rather ''half assed'' lol and they're mostly original content.

distant root
# maiden finch You somewhat missed the point, BD make content on anything he wants sure, but yo...

yeah i talk for myself and pretty much everyone i've talked to agree with that view, ripping and distributing asset is just bad.
You havent seen it, because some are more vocal than others.
I'm trying to make it so it's more known that we dont like it, not everyone is ready to make a point about.

And yeah i'd rather the community doesnt grow accustomed to it, so every time i see it, or see it mentioned, i always make sure to warn people, so it doesnt turn into a VRchat( or whatever) modding community where it's prevalent ...

Also again it's against the rules so whatever your personal feeling about it, if you dont mind and think its good, its irrelevant 🙂

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You can make quality content that's owned by an IP, custom by the way, add value to your mod and to the game itself with our without custom assets.
you can, but the risk, imho are not worth it...
Same for ripping, IMO , you should not do it, but like i always say, not your mother, not your lawyer...

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anyway we should stop Hijacking Wacky's thread, Goomes settled the debate alredy

fluid current
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I have it prepped for OHD

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Lets see if I can get it working

shy kayak
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OMG

fluid current
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Nooo

vital mirage
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De_DopeDust_v1

granite berry
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pls send

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ill full on pay you rn

granite berry
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Operation: Phoenix ON PAUSE

granite berry
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Operation: Phoenix