P-Tux7 Fan Art Gallery | The Spriters Resource | Page 1

main summit Jan 3, 2023, 11:57 PM

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This is the thread where all my edits/customs that are of an existing series go.

main summit Jan 4, 2023, 4:09 PM

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Mega Man NES Items (Atari 2600/VCS-Style)
(Updated Yashichi)

main summit Jan 7, 2023, 4:50 AM

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puhdop intensifies

main summit Apr 22, 2023, 7:48 PM

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main summit May 26, 2023, 4:29 AM

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Atari 2600 Styled SMB1 Mario @haughty stone @pine stratus

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I got inspired by Amstrad CPC Mario

haughty stone May 26, 2023, 4:29 AM

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Interesting

pine stratus May 26, 2023, 9:20 AM

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main summit Atari 2600 Styled SMB1 Mario <@583474702396162050> <@844242468743938108>

Looks pretty good

main summit May 31, 2023, 8:53 PM

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I don't know whether this is submittable or not, but

main summit Jun 22, 2023, 12:18 AM

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oak bay Jun 22, 2023, 12:20 AM

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mega man 9?

main summit Jun 22, 2023, 12:22 AM

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yeah but actually on nes

haughty stone Jun 22, 2023, 12:25 AM

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What if you changed the darker pink to a more reddish shade and used that palette for Magmaman

main summit Jun 22, 2023, 12:34 AM

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spruced tornado man up a bit
changed jewel/plug/magma palette

haughty stone Jun 22, 2023, 12:39 AM

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Nice

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Does Tornadoman's face on the sprite layer have overlapping 8x8s?

main summit Jun 22, 2023, 12:56 AM

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Good catch

main summit Jun 22, 2023, 1:31 AM

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With Magma Man no longer using the orange palette, Concrete Man and Hornet Man have been revamped.

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The only thing I couldn't find a good solution for was the player in the middle. Even though there are perfect palettes for Mega Man and Proto Man's tiles, Tornado Man and Plug Man use all the available sprites.

oak bay Jun 22, 2023, 2:11 AM

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main summit The only thing I couldn't find a good solution for was the player in the middle....

what do you mean?

haughty stone Jun 22, 2023, 2:23 AM

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NES limitations

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Only eight 8x8s can be displayed per scanline iirc, Tornadoman and Plugman each take up four, so there's none left for the player face in the middle

oak bay Jun 22, 2023, 2:45 AM

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oh ok

main summit Aug 20, 2023, 12:24 AM

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ZX Spectrum Air Man

oak bay Aug 20, 2023, 2:22 AM

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nice

haughty stone Sep 18, 2023, 8:00 PM

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Hey P-Tux, you seem to know how Megaman mugshots work pretty well, could you explain how the color limitations for it work and generally what the palettes look like?

main summit Sep 18, 2023, 8:51 PM

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for the NES or ZX Spectrum?

haughty stone Sep 18, 2023, 10:06 PM

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NES

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I know it's sprites layered over tiles, but I don't actually know the standards or methods for optimization

haughty stone Sep 18, 2023, 10:08 PM

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main summit

Do palettes usually look like this?

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I know that last sprite palette is nearly universal

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Actually a better question for me to ask would be what are the estimated limitations for a single mugshot

main summit Sep 19, 2023, 12:14 AM

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Oh yeah, I haven't posted the update to that on here

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haughty stone Sep 19, 2023, 12:37 AM

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Why's Plug part blue part pink?

main summit Sep 19, 2023, 1:48 AM

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Not enough room in the scanlines to make the prongs sprites so I had to decide whether to make them blue or pink

haughty stone Sep 19, 2023, 2:12 AM

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main summit With Magma Man no longer using the orange palette, Concrete Man and Hornet Man h...

So this didn't work?

main summit Sep 19, 2023, 2:19 AM

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It'd be possible if I removed Mega Man's face, but I feel like it being there is more in the spirit of MM9

main summit Sep 20, 2023, 4:03 AM

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Ok so let's get into how NES portraits work. You'll probably want to have the stage select sheets open from MM2-6 to follow along

haughty stone Sep 20, 2023, 4:05 AM

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Yeah, I understand that there's tiles in the back that handle about half the colors, with sprites layered over to handle the rest, but I just don't know how to optimize

main summit Sep 20, 2023, 4:08 AM

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That's where I come in

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Let's start with some illustrative background palettes

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The palette that handles the back of the stage select screen. Except for MM4, it looks like this. Most games use it for some of the RM bodies, such as Air/Flash, Needle/Hard/Shadow, Dive/Skull/Dust, and Napalm/Wave. And it is of course also used for Mega Man himself in MM3-6. Oddly enough, MM6 is the only game that reserves this entirely for Mega Man/the background, meaning that game only uses 3 palettes for all 8 RMs.

haughty stone Sep 20, 2023, 4:12 AM

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Is that so? What about Knight, Yamato?

main summit Sep 20, 2023, 4:12 AM

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Getting to that

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A standard white+2 colours+black ramp. Used for most other RMs in the games, such as Bubble Man, all of the MM3 RMs except Snake and Gemini, Pharaoh Man/Toad Man, all of the MM5 RMs, and Plant/Flame. How this works is that you can use it to do the eyes + 2 colours of shading on the body. This also means that you don't have to use sprites to make the eyes, as you already have the white here. Examples of RMs that are largely designed to not use flesh sprites include Bubble, Air, Needle, Toad, Pharaoh, Skull, Napalm, Gyro, Stone, Plant, and Flame.

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An unusual ramp seen in MM2, used for Quick/Heat/Metal/Crash. It allows these RMs to have three unique shades on the body at the cost of not only their flesh needing to be sprites, but their eyes as well. Wood Man's unique palette also falls into this as well.

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A ramp seen in Snake Man in MM3. It's used to make his eyes and most of his flesh not need to be sprites, at the cost of still needing the flesh shading to be sprites and his green part only being shaded with white.

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The ramp for Ring/Bright/Drill in MM4. Another "hybrid" ramp in that it allows the flesh to not need sprites and also provides a nice ramp for the dark flesh to ramp into red. However, it needs sprites for the eyes.

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Another palette type used solely in MM6 for Wind/Centaur and Blizzard/Tomahawk/Yamato/Knight. It consists of white and then two colours that don't mix into a ramp. This provides the advantage of colourful-looking RM sprites at the cost of not being able to shade either of those colours except with white or needing to put sprites on them for shading, which MM6 largely doesn't do outside of Blizzard Man's boobs, Knight Man's helmet, and Yamato Man's helmet. More on this in the sprites section

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For background tiles, you largely can just draw whatever you want as long as you keep within the four-colour and four-palette limit. Most of the games don't do anything tricky with this, but MM2 does

haughty stone Sep 20, 2023, 4:23 AM

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Yeah, Metalman was the one that tripped me up with his usage of two different tile palettes

main summit Sep 20, 2023, 4:23 AM

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Metal Man and Crash Man have different 16x16 quadrants of the 32x32 portraits set to use different colours. This is prevented from looking too obvious with the face sprites bridging the gap, and a few white sprites for where the saw/helmet go over the red parts. However, this could have been used to greater effect in games where white was in every ramp, and wouldn't have needed white sprites. However, as you can see with Plug Man above, it can sort of look clashy unless you hide it well - possibly by using coloured sprites, which I couldn't afford to paste on.

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I'm surprised that they didn't do anything more with it as Napalm Man could have done this well if you change his upper-right quadrant to use the gold palette

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The left and bottom parts of the cannon already have gold-ish sprites pasted over them, so the only flaw is those 2 pixels on the right, which could have been solved by moving the portrait or cannon up one pixel.

haughty stone Sep 20, 2023, 4:27 AM

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MM5 mugs always messed with me because they have that black line going around the sides

main summit Sep 20, 2023, 4:31 AM

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The SPRITE palettes seem to defy easy categorisation so I will just cover them game-by-game. Each fourth of a row is one sprite palette and each row is one of the five games from MM2-MM6

haughty stone Sep 20, 2023, 4:32 AM

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I have some old mugs I made without actual knowledge on how the palettes worked, I called it "MM10 color limitations" but I don't actually know, would you want to look at them and see how possible they are?

main summit Sep 20, 2023, 4:32 AM

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Sure

haughty stone Sep 20, 2023, 4:34 AM

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I'll have to find them hang on

main summit Sep 20, 2023, 4:35 AM

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MM2:

Standard face palette used on most RMs. Eyes and face are covered by this palette, and it's required for the four red RMs
Used by Bubble's ear, Air's fan, and Quick Man's boomerang, which is why the black is in the palette.
Used by Air and Flash's head gems. Bizarrely, the skin tone doesn't seem to be needed, as Flash's skin uses the first palette, and the white isn't needed either because both of them use a tile palette with white in it. A possible leftover of old RM designs
Unused? Has the same structure as a later palette, which means Mega Man's face might have been meant for this game

haughty stone Sep 20, 2023, 4:36 AM

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main summit Sep 20, 2023, 4:38 AM

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MM3:

Used by the dots on the stage borders, as well as the dots in the password screen... unlike every other game which uses a white-and-peach palette for the dots.
Used by Magnet for his skin, magnets, and eye colours, as well as Spark Man's plug thing.
Used by Gemini, Hard, Snake, and Shadow for their skin and red eyes/gem. Something you'll note is that although Snake could have used this peach, it saves sprite count (both row and in total) for him to have it in the tile palette.
Solely used for Mega Man's face and eye dots. MM3 does something clever where it saves sprite count by having his face and eyes be one sprite instead of the dots being superimposed, but this requires a bespoke palette with black in it.

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MM4

Used by the border dots, Ring/Bright/Drill's face, and Drill's... drill. I don't know why they didn't make the top half of his tiles use the palette with grey in it.
Used by Toad's mask. I don't know what that green is doing in there... It might be used by Cossack's face, but it could also be using palette 4.
Pharaoh's face and snake, Skull's eyes, and Cossack's face and eyes. The games have the capability to swap palettes upon game phases, such as the Doc Robots and Break Man, but MM4 doesn't do so.
Used for Dive's face and helmet.

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MM5

Not sure. Might have been used by Mega Man like MM3, but the looking eyes got cut?
Also not sure! Might be used by some of the faces, but it's impossible to tell unless I look in a debugger and it's wasteful anyways.
Gravity, Crystal, Charge, and Napalm's cyan bits.
Every RM - and Proto Man's - faces, as well as the border dots. Every single RM uses this sprite palette! It's also used for Napalm's cannon, Wave's mask, and Gyro's mask.

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MM6:
1 and 2. Used by the BEAT letters and 1up sprites that appear after you complete a level. In addition, 2. is used by the border dots. None of the actual faces use this palette.
3. Used by every single other sprite decoration on the stage select screen - all of them use one of these three colours. I'd call this lame, but it's impressive of them that I didn't realize it until this year. The gold really adds some plausible deniability in there.
4. Completely unused - I checked in a debugger - and a code dive on the Mega Man hacking server revealed that this palette is loaded on the title screen.

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So as you can see, the palettes aren't really standardized as much and they're pretty much created to be the most versatile within the limits of 8 per scanline and 64 in total. However, a face palette is always one of the constants.

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You can see that my first MM9 NES sprite palettes had a lot of variety... but in the second version, I had to pare them down. It wasn't due to a lack of palette space, but rather scanline space and sprite count limits - as well as wanting to have Mega Man's eyes.

haughty stone Sep 20, 2023, 4:50 AM

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Ah

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So how possible are the icons I made?

main summit Sep 20, 2023, 4:54 AM

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As for how I designed the MM9 NES second version, all of the sprite palettes follow the MM5 model except Tornado/Galaxy. I used the magic wand tool in Paint.NET and found that white was actually used less than any of these three colours - so I had to put white in the face palette.
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Mega Man's face, like MM3
A standard face palette, used by everybody except Hornet and Magma (also used for Galaxy Man's shine since I decided that a whole palette just for that wouldn't be wise
Used for Plug Man's eyes and for Splash Woman's gem and lipstick. The lipstick didn't need to be in this palette but it fit well as a third colour and, you know, it felt funny to do because there's one user who I know the gameplay sprite's lipstick really bothers (as well as me) so this was sort of a tribute to her.
Used for Concrete Man and Hornet Man's heads as well as Magma's gem and the Galaxy Man overhang thing (Quick Man-like). They don't actually NEED to be in the same palette but the greys were 2 colours and the gem was 1 so it fit perfectly in a 3-colour palette.

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Something that informed the sprite palettes was also how just putting the faces using palettes 0 and 1 took up a lot of the sprite space - 42/64 sprites use one of the first two. I then obviously had to reserve a palette for the grey parts in Concrete/Hornet/Magma, so I was left with one palette, which I basically had the choice of making Galaxy Man pink or for making Plug and Splash have orange bits. I figured it was more economical to use a sprite palette for 2 RMs instead of 1, so the latter option won - it also had the advantage that, unlike the Galaxy palette, these parts of Plug and Splash only need two colours, so I could add the third lipstick colour.

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I would have used one of them to spruce up Tornado's yellow and red colours, but the scanline limits didn't allow for it - the same scanline limits which prevented me from making Plug's prongs grey sprites.

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Something else I forgot to mention is the average amount of colours that an NES mugshot uses - it can be up to 7 in the red MM2 bots' cases, 7 in Bubble Man's case, 7 in a few MM5 bots' cases, and even 8 in Charge Man's case.

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Most mugshots use 1 tile palette + 1 sprite palette - which means the max colours are 7. This is only done in the MM2 red bots. Bubble Man and the MM5 RMs get to 7/8 by careful use of sprites with different palettes.

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Something I need to know before I optimize your mugshots is, how do you plan to arrange them on the screen?

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Will Mega Man be present?

haughty stone Sep 20, 2023, 5:05 AM

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I have no idea, they don't have any current plans

main summit Sep 20, 2023, 5:05 AM

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(If I recall correctly, didn't MMPU do some sort of weird MMX1 thing where it had 2 per row)

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Observation 1: Cut Man uses a third grey. Just replace it with black

haughty stone Sep 20, 2023, 5:06 AM

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MMPU put them in the classic setup, same order as MM1 but with Time and Oil fitting the spaces on top and bottom

main summit Sep 20, 2023, 5:06 AM

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Also, Ice is probably gonna need to have his green eyes changed

haughty stone Sep 20, 2023, 5:06 AM

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main summit Observation 1: Cut Man uses a third grey. Just replace it with black

Just counted, all of my mugs used 8 colors except for Cut who used 7

main summit Sep 20, 2023, 5:07 AM

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Something I think will probably be necessary is to make the darkest teal parts on Elec, Guts, and Oil be black

haughty stone Sep 20, 2023, 5:07 AM

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So Cut would probably be fine since he could use a dark red-red-orange tile palette and dark gray-light gray-white sprite palette

main summit Sep 20, 2023, 5:08 AM

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I was able to preserve the shape by adding antialiasing on the parts I rendered black

haughty stone Sep 20, 2023, 5:08 AM

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I used the dark teal as a sort of shading extension to be as close to black as possible since dark gray wasn't close enough

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MM10 icons did this

main summit Sep 20, 2023, 5:10 AM

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Later I will try reducing each portrait to 4 colours to try and work out a set of tile palettes

haughty stone Sep 20, 2023, 5:10 AM

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Wait a minute... ohhhh these are from back when I had the bad palette with extra colors

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It might need some color translation, Cutman's got an extra darker gray I think, it should be the darkest teal

main summit Feb 6, 2024, 3:23 AM

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@pine stratus @oak bay me when working with "fat pixels" platforms (Commodore 64, Amstrad CPC): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hP5hIi0gYD8

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oak bay Feb 6, 2024, 3:25 AM

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True

main summit Feb 12, 2024, 4:01 PM

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Hoi (Amiga) to Commodore 64 and NES

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main summit Feb 12, 2024, 5:58 PM

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improvement

main summit Feb 13, 2024, 3:36 AM

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Moon Child (Windows 1997) to Commodore 64 and NES

main summit Feb 14, 2024, 6:53 PM

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the mario hack of the great giana sisters if it was AWESOME

oak bay Feb 14, 2024, 7:04 PM

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nintendo if they weren’t over restrictive about their IP

main summit Jul 2, 2024, 9:41 PM

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haughty stone Jul 2, 2024, 10:17 PM

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Why is his arm LIKE THAT

oak bay Jul 2, 2024, 10:20 PM

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my man got the tiny arm

haughty stone Jul 3, 2024, 1:27 AM

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Crunched

main summit Jul 3, 2024, 3:01 AM

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main summit Jul 22, 2024, 1:35 AM

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LA Moldorm (small)

main summit Jul 29, 2024, 12:09 AM

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Trio the Wheel (MM7 in NES style)

haughty stone Jul 29, 2024, 1:17 AM

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Would it really be that big?

main summit Jul 29, 2024, 1:35 AM

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28 sprites max, i believe that lines up with some of the bigger enemies like jumbig and the gumball machine

haughty stone Jul 29, 2024, 1:37 AM

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Yeah but isn't that gonna be really tall compared to Megaman?

main summit Jul 29, 2024, 1:38 AM

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point taken

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i'll see about 24x8 wheels later

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Though I mean...

haughty stone Jul 29, 2024, 1:43 AM

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How tall are they compared to Megaman in MM7?

main summit Jul 29, 2024, 1:43 AM

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okay so they were 14 tall in RM7FC

main summit Jul 29, 2024, 1:43 AM

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haughty stone How tall are they compared to Megaman in MM7?

i don't think that enemies can do a 1:1 comparison

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mega man is much bigger in MM7 but the metools and tellies aren't

haughty stone Jul 29, 2024, 1:44 AM

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Wait telly was in mm7??

main summit Jul 29, 2024, 1:44 AM

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(well there aren't tellies in MM7 but compare the fire telly in MM6 to the similar enemy in cloud man)

haughty stone Jul 29, 2024, 1:44 AM

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Fire telly is a rather large one imo

main summit Aug 10, 2024, 7:05 AM

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main summit Aug 29, 2024, 4:55 PM

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Grand Goombrat

main summit Aug 29, 2024, 5:18 PM

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fuck it we ball

main summit Aug 29, 2024, 7:48 PM

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Zelda 1 - Agahnim

main summit Aug 29, 2024, 9:48 PM

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Zelda 1 - Cucco

main summit Sep 2, 2024, 11:01 PM

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main summit Sep 3, 2024, 12:25 AM

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main summit Sep 4, 2024, 3:56 AM

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haughty stone Sep 4, 2024, 3:59 AM

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Drill...... thing

main summit Sep 4, 2024, 7:23 PM

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mega man 2 if it was AWESOME

main summit Sep 25, 2024, 5:01 AM

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Brawhalla sprite recreations

main summit Sep 25, 2024, 9:29 PM

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Brain Break for #1286548658384408607 MAGMML3 skin

main summit Sep 30, 2024, 7:32 AM

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improvement @simple adder

main summit Oct 10, 2024, 6:07 AM

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main summit Oct 10, 2024, 6:53 AM

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main summit Oct 12, 2024, 4:29 AM

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haughty stone Oct 12, 2024, 4:30 AM

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Sheepman got ROBBED

main summit Oct 12, 2024, 4:44 AM

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by bass, specifically

main summit Oct 31, 2024, 8:28 AM

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main summit Nov 4, 2024, 12:52 AM

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peak cinema (according to the british)

main summit Nov 4, 2024, 7:17 AM

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main summit Nov 6, 2024, 7:45 PM

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didj sonic

main summit Nov 8, 2024, 4:35 PM

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@flat patio

flat patio Nov 8, 2024, 4:35 PM

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cerealspit

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spike ppusher nes

haughty stone Nov 8, 2024, 5:51 PM

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Tiny spikes??

main summit Nov 9, 2024, 1:48 AM

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2 blue spike pushers = 20 sprites
2 red spike pushers = 22 sprites
4 spikeballs = 16 sprites
Total = 60 sprites

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So doing it this way already causes enough flicker, if I had kept the big spikeballs that use 12 sprites each this would total to 100 sprites

haughty stone Nov 9, 2024, 1:52 AM

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I'm not entirely sure how it would work out but the spikeballs always felt like tiles to me

main summit Nov 13, 2024, 9:35 AM

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main summit Nov 14, 2024, 3:14 AM

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hexed tapir Nov 14, 2024, 10:28 PM

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main summit

Is this meant to be Gameboy style?

main summit Nov 14, 2024, 10:29 PM

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Commodore 64

hexed tapir Nov 14, 2024, 10:30 PM

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Interesting. How did you squish it to be (presumably) 16x16 and keep the detail?

main summit Nov 15, 2024, 11:17 PM

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I FINALLY GOT THIS TO WORK

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main summit Nov 22, 2024, 10:56 PM

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@gleaming yoke thanks for the inspiration

main summit Nov 23, 2024, 12:35 AM

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main summit Nov 24, 2024, 6:57 AM

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today in nerdy shit only i care about: some of the mm1 enemies don't have their tiles optimized, pink is the original tile boundaries, purple is mine

haughty stone Nov 24, 2024, 7:03 AM

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The screwdriver can be optimized more

main summit Nov 24, 2024, 7:03 AM

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oh yeah, fuck

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i was thinking "it should use the rod the main sprite uses" but i never actually colored it that way

haughty stone Nov 24, 2024, 7:04 AM

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Also pretty sure the super cutter can too

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https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1186335036350402651/1258687679533420574/image.png?ex=67438000&is=67422e80&hm=39fbdd3e51c4b4def699a12b87bbb328019b499effcbe73fad314b33c61b1fe6&

main summit Nov 24, 2024, 7:06 AM

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haughty stone Nov 24, 2024, 7:07 AM

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Yeah

main summit Nov 24, 2024, 7:08 AM

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i realized a tradeoff can be made in the beaks

haughty stone Nov 24, 2024, 7:10 AM

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Also octopus battery can teeechnically be optimized but it's kinda weird

main summit Nov 24, 2024, 7:20 AM

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by separating the rod and the shell, you need more sprites, but you can do this

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white: 1 layer
light gray: 2 layers
dark gray: 3 layers

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haughty stone Nov 24, 2024, 7:28 AM

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main summit by separating the rod and the shell, you need more sprites, but you can do this

I think that's less efficient actually, that last frame went from 3 8x8s to 5

main summit Nov 24, 2024, 7:28 AM

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yeah it's a battle between tile and sprite efficiency

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granted this does disable the eye layering for wily 1 big eyes

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(tho you can still save a tile even with the two palettes by filling in the eye for both looking forward and down, and layering the pupil on top, since the socket's shape is the same for both poses)

haughty stone Nov 24, 2024, 7:38 AM

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I don't think it's the same shape but alright

main summit Nov 24, 2024, 7:38 AM

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though late era capcom did not give a fuck about sprite limits, as seen by mr. "i've already used all 8 sprites without megaman"