#Adding more variation of weapons. (And customization)

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sudden mauve
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Weapons
Pistols: HK P30
Machine Pistols:
Shotguns: M870, M1100, BP-12, KS-23
SMGs: UMP9, Thompson M1A1, CZ-3A1
Assault Rifle: M16 full auto variant (for editor), AKM a newer type of the AK47, M14
Carbine: M4-CQB (unlocks after prestige XII which is a M4 with suppressor, foregrip, and laser for survival only), Groza, Mini 14
Machine Guns: PKM, DP-28, BAR M1918
DMRs: M1 Garand, M39 EMR, VSS, L86A2, MK14
Sniper Rifles: Mosin Nagant, AWP (A L115A3/AWM variant), SV-98
Tactical: USAS-12 that uses FRAG-12 so explosive (classified as a shotgun in surviv.io but that be too op for Assault and this gun could just be for survival) and other types of ammo can be normal shotgun shells for survival only, Flaregun (to lure away lock on rockets)
Launcher:

Mods
Being able to equip multiple attachments in scenario would be nice.
Bandolier: attachment for shotguns and snipers which could replace the mag assist for that aren’t using magazines
Extended Ammo buff: should increase the total amount of ammo you are carrying like if originally it’s 10 rounds per mag and then it becomes 15 and then total ammo was 20 it would now be 30 as well.
.357 Magnum: Only for the Desert Eagle which makes it capacity to 9 but decreases its effective range and decrease recoil. Why would you want to do that? Well if we can have multiple attachments you can add extended ammo I guess.

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Adding more variation of weapons. (And customization)

slender cedar
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multiple attachments like optic accessory barrel ammo

rain tide
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More weapons def means a lot of new features

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And more personalized loadouts

slender cedar
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but most people will just stick with the meta which means new sniper rifles probably won’t be used

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the MRAD is something all right

sudden mauve
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Well we could have snipers that’s good as MRAD but slight trade offs

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Oh yeah I think guns with suppressors should have a lighter bullet tracing to be more sneaky

slender cedar
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Suppressor attachment should be buffed and remove bullet trail to near nothing

sudden mauve
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And I think having multiple variants of M4 and M16 could be helpful as a starter guns so they can actually chose between them

slender cedar
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hmm

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like the M4 platform

sudden mauve
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Yes

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And I think a M1 Garand would be good as well as a default weapon that you can chose for dmr

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Does more damage than SMAR but smaller clip while having like 1.95s of reload

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Migh as well add M14 which is versatile

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Also what are some good real world sniper rifles that can be like on the same level with the MRAD?

slender cedar
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in the real world most sniper rifles have similar performance (some better at extreme ranges)

sudden mauve
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Hmmmmm

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We could have the SV98 be almost the same as MRAD and AWM just better on some parts while having lower max capacity than the MRAD because it’s boring just to be on a match of just MRAD players

lime sentinel
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bandolier seems more like equipment

sudden mauve
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Welp if it’s a equipment then we could just make it that you carry more mags like how they did with the perks on Deadswitch

lethal mulch
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The issue is exactly what Upboss said about snipers, that most of these weapons have very similar performance to one another. That’s why a lot of these weapons are created and not adopted by militaries: the new options are too similar to what’s already in service

sudden mauve
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Welp weaker ones I could use for scenarios like the Mosin Nagant

slender cedar
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what we need is sniper rifles with varying fire modes and fire rates

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Like we don’t really have any semi-auto sniper rifles that shoot fast

sudden mauve
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We could have multiple being like meta but each are still unique

sudden mauve
slender cedar
sudden mauve
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MSG90 if you ask me

slender cedar
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can one shot but lots of recoil and less accurate

sudden mauve
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Well maybe not too less accurate

lime sentinel
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use the json

sudden mauve
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idk how to use the json x-x

lime sentinel
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modifying weapons is really simple

sudden mauve
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I do keep opening this random old style looking Google docs but on a note pad apparently

lime sentinel
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u could prob figure out how to edit keys by just looking at it

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or at least i did

sudden mauve
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I found the file for it

lime sentinel
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all u need to do is export then open the file then edit in the keys

sudden mauve
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Edit with?

lime sentinel
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notepad or something

sudden mauve
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Just a notepad?

lime sentinel
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i use notepad

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theres probably something better

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but i never bothered to look

sudden mauve
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Mmk well I don’t have access to my PC rn

lime sentinel
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k

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u can even change the values of stuff to something otherwise impossible

sudden mauve
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Can you put multiple of the same attachments?

lime sentinel
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idk

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i never tried

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putting on attachments resets the guns stats

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so u cant give a gun 0.1 firerate while also giving it napalm or something

sudden mauve
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Ok

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Firerate is based on RPM?

lime sentinel
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in the json

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its based on ticks i think

sudden mauve
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Hmm

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Welp for stats it’s RPM

lime sentinel
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there lower the value the higher the firerate

slender cedar
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yea

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it’s ticks per shot

sudden mauve
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Sounds like a nightmare that I have to learn a new system

lime sentinel
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u can try checking my test weapons scenario

sudden mauve
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Ok

lime sentinel
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it really simple to edit

slender cedar
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remember that thing that spewed guided missiles everywhere

sudden mauve
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And honestly is their much point to add a AKM? But then again it could have higher mobility then the AK47

lime sentinel
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u can even edit the speedmultiplier in the json

lime sentinel
sudden mauve
lime sentinel
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yes

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u can set it absurd amounts

sudden mauve
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Ok

lime sentinel
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enough that u can get stuck behind the borders

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and noclip through everything

sudden mauve
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Lol

lime sentinel
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the speedmultiplier is based on % i think

sudden mauve
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Ok

lime sentinel
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1.01 is an extra 1% speed

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o wait thats not %

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basically it just multiplies ur speed when ur holding it

sudden mauve
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Alr so 0% is just normal speed and positive increases speed?

lime sentinel
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no

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0 is no speed

sudden mauve
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Or 100% normal speed and above 100 is increase

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Ok

lime sentinel
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1 is 1x speed

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2 is 2x speed

sudden mauve
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Some games do it where normal is just 0

lime sentinel
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k

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u can also make the weapon use itself as a projectile

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with bGrenade

sudden mauve
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Like what you did with the shovel?

lime sentinel
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yes

sudden mauve
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Maybe I should put descriptions for the weapons to add

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Also what types of weapons we lack a lot on? Ik we do for DMR, and tactical but idk about tactical

slender cedar
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Semi auto snipers

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WA2000

sudden mauve
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Don’t know what that is

slender cedar
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GM6 Lynx

lime sentinel
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snipers with fast rpm and can one shot would be too op

slender cedar
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Heavy recoil tho

lime sentinel
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except for that fact that it already exists

sudden mauve
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We did say less accurate but that removes the point of it

lime sentinel
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explosive crossbow

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and explosive quadra

sudden mauve
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Could just be scenario only like what they did with the XRSMG

lime sentinel
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i made an xrsmg ripoff before it was created unintentionally

sudden mauve
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Lol

lime sentinel
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its in my test weapons scenario

sudden mauve
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Ok

lime sentinel
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its a railgun with lower dmg and high rpm

slender cedar
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but it has a very high capacity

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much more DPS

lime sentinel
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that too

sudden mauve
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Say does a USAS-12 sound good for tactical?

slender cedar
sudden mauve
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Well I want it to be using Frag-12 like they did in Surviv.io

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From the texture it’s just the M4/M16 texture with a little bit of difference

lime sentinel
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i dont have that much experience with irl guns

sudden mauve
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I just want some games that used to exist to have those guns

lime sentinel
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used to exist?

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were they deleted or something

sudden mauve
slender cedar
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If it was tactical

lime sentinel
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k

slender cedar
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Which class would use it

lime sentinel
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commando

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or assault

sudden mauve
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Commando

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Commando already has explosive

slender cedar
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so commando gets access to shotguns too

sudden mauve
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And then shotgun from that pistol

lime sentinel
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assault already has access to shotguns

sudden mauve
lime sentinel
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rsh12 sucks

sudden mauve
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It’s decent though

lime sentinel
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the range is so low

sudden mauve
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Kinda the point

lime sentinel
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lower than other shotguns

sudden mauve
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And the M1100 is basically low range as well but has lots of pellets

sudden mauve
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Also is a 3 burst SMG needed? (UMP9) also don’t we have a UMP45?

lime sentinel
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idk

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ump45 is full auto

sudden mauve
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Idk how SMG guns work in this game

lime sentinel
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smgs is basically carbines with better mobility but worse dps

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in this game

sudden mauve
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Ok

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Worse range as well?

lime sentinel
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i think

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actually

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vector is an exception for dps

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it has as much firerate as mg42

sudden mauve
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Let’s get a .45 ACP vector (pointless ngl)

lime sentinel
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and around 23 dmg i think

sudden mauve
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28 I think

lime sentinel
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maybe

sudden mauve
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I rarely use it and won’t at all in normal conditions because I’m used to it being extremely short range (same range as a shotgun basically), extremely low damage (they usually make it below 10 if players are 100hp)

lime sentinel
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it varies

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the games that go for more realism have smgs that still do good dps

sudden mauve
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It’s decent better than a pistol most of the time

lime sentinel
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sometimes

sudden mauve
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And the Groza could sound like a AK47 competitor on having almost the same stats

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Difference being Groza fires faster and slightly lower damage while being a bullpup so more mobility, and Groza lacks accuracy by a bit

lime sentinel
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i dont have much experience with guns irl

sudden mauve
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Nor do I but I do with games

lime sentinel
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i usually dont play the fps pvp games since they are always full of tryhards that ruin ur experience

sudden mauve
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And spoiled kids as well

lime sentinel
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yea

sudden mauve
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Especially those pay to win

lime sentinel
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and those games are usually super grindy

sudden mauve
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Surviv.io isn’t only got ruined by how Kongrate operated it

lime sentinel
sudden mauve
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Adding micro transactions, adding the battle pass (yes it did)

sudden mauve
lime sentinel
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im kinda tempted to retry a pvp shooter .io game

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idk if i have gotten better or worse

sudden mauve
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Their isn’t any good ones as far as ik

lime sentinel
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i wonder if dinogen would count as a .io game

sudden mauve
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Voxiom.io is ruined by hackers and toxic kids, Krunker.io is now having bad servers and hackers and toxic kids

sudden mauve
lime sentinel
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i first found dinogen on a website where u play .io games and stuff

sudden mauve
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Oh you could try Suroi.io it’s basically surviv.io recreated and it’s weird to play

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Lol

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I found Dinogen through Deadswitch 3

lime sentinel
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i found ds3 through dinogen

sudden mauve
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I have a DS3 account for more than a year and I never used it

lime sentinel
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me too

sudden mauve
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Where the RPK is unusable their and laser is not much help

lime sentinel
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but i always had way too much ms

sudden mauve
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Hmmm

lime sentinel
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15k if i hold down a button for several seconds in mp

sudden mauve
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Odd

lime sentinel
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i get disconnected usually within 1 or 2 rounds

sudden mauve
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Welp my map Desert Storm was laggy asf in multiplayer for some reason if it’s my own custom lobby

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It’s fine on local

lime sentinel
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editor?

sudden mauve
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It’s fine in editor as well

lime sentinel
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on local the tickrate slows down depending on ur device performance

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and in editor

sudden mauve
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Pretty simple map just places down structures and didn’t use much Polyguns

lime sentinel
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reminds of the map i made yesterday

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its called "null"

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have u tried it yet

sudden mauve
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Nope

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Imma go check it out tomorrow and Imma go.

lime sentinel
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k

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its a simple map

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i was able to run it without much fps drops even with performance mode off and bloom on

rain tide
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hm.