Info about clan war

[cerulean elm]

too much issues to wrap around

should be just two factions, militia and dinogen

[viral wyvern]

well the map has a bit of lore, it's basically a small urban village situated in the surroundings of Dinogen City

[cerulean elm]

oh well i've decided an location for the main dinogen facility

its in canada

[viral wyvern]

you could maybe implement them not as clans, but instead as small groups of soldiers that are from a bigger faction (dinogen or militia)

[cerulean elm]

hmmm

good idea

[viral wyvern]

something like a regiment

or

something like that

[cerulean elm]

ima send you the link

actually no

you already have it

[viral wyvern]

ye

[cerulean elm]

dinogen is in vancouver canada

AE is in nevada

naturally

[viral wyvern]

let's talk in a thread dedicated to the book

you made one i think

[true pond]

btw bots in large numbers can be super laggy

maybe remove at least the vehicle crews

[cerulean elm]

true\

but

there werent a lot of people

[true pond]

and maybe a smaller wouldve been nice

[cerulean elm]

and it would've been a little unfair

[true pond]

map

[viral wyvern]

if my memory is correct

there was a total of 22 bots when all were spawned

[true pond]

that can still add a lot of lag

[viral wyvern]

nah the map was already quite small, if it was smaller, vehicles would have been useless

yes ik

[true pond]

especially in a large map

[viral wyvern]

honestly, the map was finished in a rush

[cerulean elm]

yah

[viral wyvern]

the map was 20x25 if i remember correctly

[cerulean elm]

bravo didnt have that much time

so he coudent do loadouts

[true pond]

most buildings were decorated

with props

[viral wyvern]

i had to make it in under a week while having last week of school

[true pond]

and props add so much lag

[viral wyvern]

i rushed it, most just had tables, some walls and that's it

the end was really rushed, but it did it's job

[true pond]

also

[viral wyvern]

there is much more to add tbh

i really have more to do

[true pond]

didnt u say that u didnt want pvp bots

[viral wyvern]

not in mapmaking

[true pond]

cuz they would get stuck in vehicles

[viral wyvern]

i didn't want bots from the game directly, i preffered custom bots

that's the ones i didn't want

[true pond]

why add vehicle crews tho

[viral wyvern]

they had bCamp on

and it was to make vehicles much better to play

[true pond]

they would get stuck

[viral wyvern]

you had people repairing the vehicles, and you had a gunner

[viral wyvern]

if you left the vehicle that is

[true pond]

k

[viral wyvern]

and you could just ask them to get out

[true pond]

i remember last round

[viral wyvern]

did you get bots who got stuck in vehicles on your part ?
i didn't see any footage from your team

[true pond]

there was a lot of guided missile spam

[cerulean elm]

well yeah

thats a strat

[true pond]

some were going into spawn

vehicle crews were basically free kills sometimes

a lot of free kills

[viral wyvern]

honestly, yall complained about our guided missiles spam, but your team tried spawncamping for a moment before we pushed you back

if i didn't put those god mode untargetable minigun turrets on each bases to prevent spawncamp, it would have been hell

[true pond]

u guys tried spawn killing most of the game with guided missiles

[viral wyvern]

i wasn't controlling them

i didn't know if they did sadly

[true pond]

u would suggest placing trophies next time

[viral wyvern]

in the end, guided missile spam was not possible to avoid tbh

[true pond]

trophy spawners at spawn

[viral wyvern]

upboss did that near the end when you guys started to adopt guided missile spam too

[viral wyvern]

maybe

honestly because of the rush, i wasn't able to implement some key features

[true pond]

i could help

[viral wyvern]

like the base being locked until nodes are loaded, or trophy

i mean i can do it now

but

i got exams

coming

[true pond]

i could help with the map

[viral wyvern]

in 4 days

[true pond]

k

[viral wyvern]

i'll see later

i got to study again

👋

[true pond]

k

bye

[quick crown]

your team missile spammed us first

we were just hitting back

[viral wyvern]

I was in your team

[quick crown]

I was talking to founduser

they missiled us so I put trophy system

[viral wyvern]

but honestly, idk why, but it felt like Justin's team didn't really have any strategy

they were nearly never communicating

and mostly would just charge into the action

at the end they try to have bgm strategy in different locations, but it ended up failing

they weren't even protecting their bgm's

[cerulean elm]

yeah

justin was doing most of the work

didnt he say he woudent join @quick crown

[viral wyvern]

He ended up joining because otherwise it was unfair

The thing is

Originally

It was supposed to be 1 clan vs 1 clan

But not enough people showed up

So it ended up like that

[cerulean elm]

o

[viral wyvern]

He was doing a lot, but again, even he didn’t have that much of a strategy

[cerulean elm]

what was yours

[viral wyvern]

We had tactics not strategy

For example

Vehicle preservation, we avoided having the LAV rush unless he was supported by infantry

We would also regularly flank them

And they never protected their flank

Until the end of the match

[cerulean elm]

ok

hmmm

i feel as though edge has a lot of memers

im already in edge in ds3

i should prob join another clan

[viral wyvern]

Your choice

[cerulean elm]

but then again i like edge

[viral wyvern]

You wanted to join Dinogen gang I think

[cerulean elm]

nah

bad leadership there

maybe bravo company

that sounds cool

or eclipsor

[viral wyvern]

Do your things

[cerulean elm]

😉

[viral wyvern]

It’s your choice, I’m not gonna influence you

anyway

I’m gonna go play a bit

[cerulean elm]

ok

[true pond]

albert

r u gonna continue playing dinogen after book

[quick crown]

covert insult tactics

clever..

[quick crown]

The general, unable to control his irritation, will launch his men to the assault like swarming ants, with the result that one-third of his men are slain, while the town still remains untaken. Such are the disastrous effects of a siege.

• Sun Tzu, the Art of War

[cerulean elm]

yes

[cerulean elm]

funny

[true pond]

k

[cerulean elm]

i had to read sun tzu for a middle school project

you got it right

[balmy shadow]

I prevented him because I shot him with sniper
it was fun match after i realized how i can be an effective hunter 🐺

[cerulean elm]

yes

now i think i might not join edge

[balmy shadow]

your decide
currently the Edge and Empire Wolves clan are the strongest if you want to collect shards

[viral wyvern]

Bravo Company who’s the 2nd clan:

I’m just saving shards for prestige and stuff, I want to have enough shards so that I can prestige if I want, that’s why I’m low level clan

[balmy shadow]

currently
level up your clan

[viral wyvern]

I’ll stay 2nd !!

We have lots of exp difference

[balmy shadow]

🐺

[viral wyvern]

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[balmy shadow]

its okay, man 😄
competitive spirit is good in the game

[viral wyvern]

I’m actively recruiting since Empire Wolves is catching up

[cerulean elm]

lol

ok

[quick crown]

I'm actively recruiting, period

[cerulean elm]

mhm

[tepid sedge]

@viral wyvern , Could you submit the Clan wars map in the scenario editor?

[viral wyvern]

Can’t, for now I have to concentrate on my exam that is coming up in 3 days

[lean hearth]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/999429703318384710.png?v=1&size=48&quality=lossless

gl man

[viral wyvern]

Thx mate

[cerulean elm]

😔

[heady scaffold]

Thank you for contributing to the game and taking the critiques.
When I give critiques, it is meant to be logical and not personal, as I'm only trying to help (it might be hard to get that across on pure text). But again, thanks to you and others who take it and consider it, and help make the game better with all that you guys do.

It's amazing you were able to complete something in short notice.

Now that there is time until the next event (whenever)... we should all think about what will make it better. I know you suggested having "loadout" boxes, with certain kinds of weps and such, to level the playing field. I'll go on record as saying two things about that:

1. great!
2. don't include any weps with lock-ons... neither in loadouts, nor on the map (not even BGM)

I said the thing about lockons because... surprise surprise, the lock-on spam happened.

I've seen where people are suggesting trophy placement as a counter, but unless you put infinite, invincible trophies (or jammers, for that matter) literally all over the map, then lock-on spam is eventually going to happen and keep happening.... to the point where Clan Wars will degenerate into pure no-skill lockon spam. Which would be incredibly lame.

If those kinds of weps aren't included in loadouts or on the map/vehicles then all potential for lockon spam is completely prevented, period.
If someone reeeeeeaaaaallllly wants the lockon rpgs, then I'd suggest placing invincible jammers literally everywhere, and make it so it can't be goofed by moving the jammers with vehicles.
(but like I said, simpler solution would be to preclude lockon capable weps in the first place).

The other reason I tried to convey to others earlier as to why not allow lockons in Clan Wars is that this is different from random public lobbies with random players. This is a team event, supposed to be skill based, with rewards on the line. A single rando in pub spamming lockons is diff from an entire team doing it. 🎤

[tepid sedge]

Just to be clear, people can acc hit stuff with lockos?

coz i cant

the second someone starts sprinting the locko breaks and I get evicerated by my own rocket

[quick crown]

you need to keep the crosshairs on the target

[tepid sedge]

but ppl

sprint in circles

and it gets hard

to even locko for. a single sec

Just my opinion

[quick crown]

well

in ranked games there are much more efficient and honorable ways to kill people than with guided rockets

really only peacekeeper mains matador to bully people

[quick crown]

Have you been thinking about it

[heady scaffold]

bout what

[tepid sedge]

true

combat knife it is

[viral wyvern]

idk if we will use the same map for next event

and honestly, if it isn't javelin, then idk what kind of very useful weapons i could put in the airdrop

the airdrop is supposed to be something very precious that you rush to acquire

and honestly, both sides were terrible lmao

both teams were doing lock on spam if possible

and the enemy team (Justin's team) tried spawncamping regularly

(fortunately i put a minigun turret on each bases so spawncamping is very hard to do)

[lean hearth]

javelin but it shoots 6 missiles lmao

but you can't resupply it

and missiles are inaccurate asf

[viral wyvern]

that's not possible

[viral wyvern]

not possible too

[lean hearth]

ya

sed

maybe you can fuck around with velocity tho

so that it's slow asf

[viral wyvern]

all of the things you said are impossible to do sadly

except velocity

[viral wyvern]

but then it's useless

that's the thing, if i put railgun, it's useless against vehicles

if i try something anti vehicles, then there is only lock ons

the rpg is already available for everyone

that's the thing, i want a weapon that is a bit OP, but apparently i can't put lock ons anymore

[lean hearth]

then make RPG airdrop item

[viral wyvern]

bro

[lean hearth]

for loadout

you can try another explosive

[viral wyvern]

everyone can get rpg

[lean hearth]

or smth

[viral wyvern]

guh

[lean hearth]

like M79

lmao

[viral wyvern]

well anyway

i don't think i'll use this map again

next events will most likely not be clan wars

[lean hearth]

yknow what

[viral wyvern]

i'll probably change it a bit and release it someday

[lean hearth]

i've changed my mind

ill probably do some shipping containers

for the dinogen camp

[viral wyvern]

interesting

[lean hearth]

but there's no one inside

you got the map?

[viral wyvern]

but let's go to #1117917352542093342 for that

[lean hearth]

i could "borrow" the design

lmao

[true pond]

u could have it drop a m134 with attachments

[quick crown]

about clans

[viral wyvern]

Bro, he’s rarely even active on Dinogen anyway

I barely see him

[quick crown]

ok

[viral wyvern]

He will probably do barely any challenges

Number doesn’t matter if 3/4 is not doing anything

[quick crown]

couldnt have said it better myself

except for me it’s like 9/10

because I have 10 members, you see…

I tool your advice and pruned

[viral wyvern]

I have 11 members because yesterday someone asked to join 😁

[quick crown]

nice

[viral wyvern]

And recently my members have started to do clan challenges a bit more since I told them to

[viral wyvern]

Good luck, hope you get at least back to 3rd or 4th place in clans

[quick crown]

me too

[merry goblet]

bro yes but i have struggles, sry ive got carried away by other games

[viral wyvern]

Hey you’re back nice !

Don’t worry I can understand if you have irl problems

I just had no news before you vanished

That’s why I was wondering

[merry goblet]

yea to be honest i just had something else more favorable. so sorry for anticipating in the clan war eventho i announced it

enough of my struggles how are your maps going @viral wyvern

[cerulean elm]

😭

[merry goblet]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jiOrr8mTrLg