it has some ridicuously heavy gacha elements
#off-topic
lament prairie
and no not really, compared to similar game ios numbers early on those numbers are atrocious
its making a lot of the same missteps the previous version did but a lot faster
and also a lot more severe i guess
previous blue protocol didnt mess up this much this early
ember roost
dante is free completing story
sly ember
I...would
ember roost
vergil summon on collab banner
sly ember
dante is free completing story
sly ember
vergil summon on collab banner
I'm saving my pulls for Vergil then
ember roost
yes
sly ember
@ember roost is story hard?
ember roost
<@1225211184660086929> is story hard?
nope
spice shoal
lament prairie
finite kelp
https://tenor.com/view/cowanimated-cow-cows-gif-13671727856550360343
I liek em Chunky...and plumpy~ Chunky chunky chunky chunky~
Plumpy~ Plumpy plumpy~
FYI Hippos are omnivores. Lol (Primarily herbivores though)
spice shoal
finite kelp
https://tenor.com/view/varesa-natlan-eating-anime-girl-genshin-impact-gif-652051...
I studied Biology but these ...Xray demonstrations of bodily fuctions always freaked me out...
zealous narwhal
@sly ember This afternoon I went to the doctor because I had a lump on my forehead. The doctor said it was a benign tumor.
zealous narwhal
finite kelp
Next time I go on a date I'm going to play this song as my intro song. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDnPFxnALBg
zealous narwhal
@sly ember The doctor said it's not a problem as long as it doesn't grow, but I have the option of having the tumor removed surgically, although that will definitely leave a permanent scar on my face.
finite kelp
<@308543870440964097> The doctor said it's not a problem as long as it doesn't g...
Do iiiittt. Tell everyone it's your battle scar.
zealous narwhal
Do iiiittt. Tell everyone it's your battle scar.
bro is not funny
finite kelp
Well, depends on if your a lady or not. I've had friends with similar situations that did exactly that but...they were dudes.
Also, unless its an issue cosmetically I wouldn't worry about it. A simple wart is a benign tumor as well.
The word "Tumor" can be scary. I studied oncology and helped with cancer research labs.
zealous narwhal
To be honest, this is a dilemma for me.
finite kelp
Medically or...cosmetically? I completely understand a lump somewhere you don't want one that people would mention or poke fun at.
But outside that dooon't wooorrrry. The physical apperance is the only thing you need to worry about
And that changes on your mindset. You can control that~
Vs Something you cannot.
zealous narwhal
But outside that dooon't wooorrrry. The physical apperance is the only thing you...
The doctor advised against it, saying that it was “not yet” a problem rn and if doing an operation would leave a scar.
finite kelp
If you're worried medically you can go to an oncologist/geneticist do more specific testing
A general doctor will only check for basic metastis symptoms or further growth. I don't think they'd do a full blown genetic test on the tumor itself to see whats specifically causing the tumor
Lots of things cause tumors. LOOOOOTTS of things.
finite kelp
The main things to check for are. 1: If the tumor itself is developing genetic errors in the system that fixes these problems. 2: If that error is continuing or just a random mutation that eventually got taken care of, and 3: If your immune system is recognizing the tumor. (The last one isn't as important as if it did...you'd know.)
If it's just surface level skin lumps forming then meh. That happens from time to time. We develop genetic errors ALL THE TIME
Heck even our bodies being healthy and making new copies like it should can create genetic errors. They're called TATA mutations.
The part of your genetic coding that doesn't code for anything specfically but more as...place holders. Similar to how you have handles to a pot. The handles don't do anything cooking wise but they act as a holder for your hands. TATA boxes act as the handles for genetic coding.
zealous narwhal
The main things to check for are. 1: If the tumor itself is developing genetic e...
I don't know, bro, this kind of thing is completely foreign to me.
finite kelp
But if your doctor says its fine then chances are your good.
zealous narwhal
Today was very tiring for me
finite kelp
Also contact a plastic surgeon to get further advice as what to do.
They'll be able to actually tell you if they need to do a surgery that will leave a scar.
zealous narwhal
zealous narwhal
Also contact a plastic surgeon to get further advice as what to do.
I'm not thinking too much to that lol
atleast I'm still alive it's good
finite kelp
Def. A benign lump is fine. Skin lumps happen all the time for people. Nothing to really worry about
Just eat some cake.
You'll be as right as...why do people say rain?
Right as rain?
proud python
Free to play friendly? Wasn't there huge drama about it being even worse p2w than real blue protocol?
civic sinew
Free to play friendly? Wasn't there huge drama about it being even worse p2w tha...
The original blue protocol was going to be cosmetic gacha so I guess people love to exaggerate
finite kelp
Well Maplestory for the most part is kinda cosmetic gacha only on their more popular servers. They stayed in business for 20+ years now lol
So that method must work. Not sure why other companies don't do it?
magic wharf
yeah, they also caught lying about their gacha rates, soooo 
civic sinew
Well also not a lot of people gonna gamble on cosmetics that won’t affect gameplay they rather pay straight up for it they rather gamble for something that’s gonna affect gameplay
finite kelp
Well also not a lot of people gonna gamble on cosmetics that won’t affect gamepl...
I dunno, mang. The server numbers to maplestory says otherwise
civic sinew
(Im tempted to take a jab at infinity nikki but im fighting my urges)
finite kelp
TRUE gamers would rather earn it. Paying to win loses the fun in winning
Unless your a loser who ONLY cares about winning no matter what you do
I'd rather pay money for a cosmetic gamble knowing the stronger players are strong because they worked at it
Not paid for it
It makes it feel like what's the point of F2P if you can P2W? To play the storyline?
civic sinew
I dunno, mang. The server numbers to maplestory says otherwise
Im not saying it’s diminishing numbers im just saying not a lot of people gonna gamble for cosmetics if gambling for power up is an option
finite kelp
Well I feel like that's due to not a lot of games going that route
civic sinew
It makes it feel like what's the point of F2P if you can P2W? To play the storyl...
Look up dragon raja
civic sinew
I like forbidden knowledge my friend
finite kelp
I'd say this.
WESTERN markets like paying for cosmetics vs power more
EASTERN markets like paying for cosmetics AND power
The mentality is different.
Why a lot of western gamers feel like cheaters online tend to be "Asian" as the mentality in at least China is "Win at all cost."
The WIN is what matters more than HOW you got the win
Or the CLOUT matters more
civic sinew
The mentality is different.
Ok that I can agree with I saw a lot of people hating on the wow instant 60 level up and not a lot of people used except for people that doesn’t know any better
finite kelp
As thats kinda the only way to show individualism and prestige above others in that "Everyone does the same thing for community harmony" culture.
proud python
The original blue protocol was going to be cosmetic gacha so I guess people love...
It was to the point that you can't play some classes unless you whale on game 
but would need to dig into cn videos again to find it, too tired to do that 
civic sinew
It was to the point that you can't play some classes unless you whale on game <:...
Well I was talking about the gacha only but if you are talking about other aspects there’s a lot of pay 2 win aspect but it’s isn’t worse then your typical gacha https://youtu.be/31iHBmEEhSQ?si=9Uy0ygQNgQJd3Ej8
civic sinew
i'm happy asf https://www.invenglobal.com/igec/articles/19535/krafton-greenlight...
They better buff my sweet brawler
finite kelp
...Are worms just living straws?
civic sinew
No because straws are dry and they snap if you bent it slightly
lament prairie
Yes but it’s free to play friendly compared to other gachas
thats what people said last time with blue protocol, and that was entirely wrong, its even worse this time and racking up controversies even faster
and that first few weeks revenue is almost as bad as tarisland's
did u no i have the one and only 24k gold carat lamomo
civic sinew
and that first few weeks revenue is almost as bad as tarisland's
That first week ? Seems good for a first on a single platform on a limited release
lament prairie
That first week ? Seems good for a first on a single platform on a limited relea...
no first couple and if you look at similar games its absolutely horrible
usually first few weeks are nearly all the income for the first few months
ratio wise
civic sinew
Also as far as im concerned most what I hear from people who played the game it’s great on release
lament prairie
i mean, you also heard glowing praise from people about the previous one
civic sinew
usually first few weeks are nearly all the income for the first few months
Oh my bad still it’s not that bad even for a few weaks
lament prairie
where people also mislead others about the state of it pretending it had no issues
people have goldfish memory it seems
civic sinew
where people also mislead others about the state of it pretending it had no issu...
The irony coming from you
lament prairie
huh the flowers are glitching out on my screen
flashing pink and purple in the rain
civic sinew
people have goldfish memory it seems
Also unlike the previous one this one is improving on feedback no ?
lament prairie
nope, CN is furious
and people said the previous version was improving based on feedback etc too
we saw what that amounted to
content creators can and will lie to your face about this sort of thing
yet people are still trusting the same ones that misled people about the state of the older blue protocol
civic sinew
yet people are still trusting the same ones that misled people about the state o...
You do realize the “old blue protocol” was made by a different team entirely no ?
lament prairie
yes, which is why its so surprising they're doing the same thing again but faster
and worse
ppl dont learn from history it seems
for nikki? i havent relaunched my client yet, did it get hotfixed
idk what to tell you i just ran into it
ive done the new story stuff
i dont get why everything is islands
its not an engine limitation, nte stuff is very high density but rendered perfectly as one chunk etc when driving through
these my 3 new outfits atm
i get they're not ue5.5 like nte is
and that ue5.5 nte mobile stuff is super smooth but
even with being ue5 (but not ue5.5)
they dont have to make everything islands
it seems to be just a stylistic choice
idk the density is huge
you're forgetting the nikki stuff doesnt have many interiors etc or npc's around clustered etc
its more about how much you have to render and swap between around a small radius
rather than the whole entirety of it
further off stuff has LoD culling
yeah, thats what im saying
nikki has the maps setup like it has unity limitations
which is odd given its ue5
its either intentional or its an
oh other games do it this way we will do
yeah i guess thats part of it too
we'll see how they handle later regions i guess
i have high hopes for the housing patch thats the next one
although yes ik thats another island
its not really an issue atm i just wonder if itll limit them later
hopefully they can update to ue5.5 like nte
it might be tricky if their code has diverged a lot
which is might have by now
but its not the near impossible task it would be for an open world one to go ue4>5 post launch
well it'd still help the game in general even if they are doing this as a stylistic choice
i hope we get weirder fashion like this
lament prairie
https://www.reddit.com/r/AnantaOfficial/comments/1mj5y8n/carrace/ people are fake extending trailers with ai now?
that could get out of hand very fast
doesnt really help the source original wasnt really gameplay footage either
so its stacking confusion on top of confusion
frigid tulip
Kirby vs Goku in a fight who would win
ember roost
X
proud python
The art Looks like Blue Archive
because its by the same team
river eagle
kind of no and yes
not same dev as BA, it's the publisher of BA (in Japan) decided to develop own game with art style reminescent of BA , kinda
zealous narwhal
https://x.com/StellaSoraEN/status/1953290585915441198
when pc?
untold swan
https://www.reddit.com/r/AnantaOfficial/comments/1mj5y8n/carrace/ people are fak...
Ananta tomorrow
spice shoal
zealous narwhal
@turbid cargo bruh imagine you forgot to give water to your nuclear reactor
ember roost
@pulsar mica
so many games coming this year
blue protocol,hok world,7ds origins,duet night abyss ,nte
boreal hedge
I feel tired
echo beacon
hi I'm new and looking for some friends <3
muted bronze
muted bronze
hi I'm new and looking for some friends \<3
Welcome
echo beacon
ty ty
spice shoal
zealous narwhal
IT'S A CAT
di you read my message before
sly ember
di you read my message before
spice shoal
gentle grove
finite kelp
-Sniff-
So
Toby
Hurred a volcano went off near Australia
Looked pretty on video. Not gonna lie
But that what...level 5 red ash alert or something sounds pretty serious
...But still pretty > x >;;
Nature went KABOOM but with style and flare~
For the full kit or just the base?
If it's just the base that's honestly kinda meh
For the FULL shabang heck yeah that's a great deal! (Too lazy to just check myself)
It's the same price in USD
Your Euro over the Dollar strength has no power here~
Couldn't really get into it
Something about the game was just too...distracting
I couldn't focus
I dunno what...
(Also I don't own the console to play lol)
ANd never bothered to check if its on PC c:
o 3 o Of this year?
That's not that long lol
Wat? Not even a season ago lol
I got onions growing older than the PC release lol
YOU CALLIN` MY ONIONS OLD?! HM?!
They've been growin` for awhile now?! Hm?!
Am I a bad Onion farmer?!
Yeah probably
I mean seeing as they're growing tomatoes something tells me I did something wrong
Imagine that? Lol A story of an Onion farmer who so badly wishes he could grow onions like the family tradition...
But every single time he tries to grow onions he grows crops of other types but in massive sizes lol
"UGH!!! ANOTHER MEGAMELON AGAIN, MA`!!
...And...his family gets rich off these incredible produce because they give them to the royal family and nobles. . --- . While the population starves!! The family keeps all of this hidden from the guy as he lives in some remote farm thinking they sell onions and live a humble life. > 3 > -jots notes down-...mhmmm..hmmmm
And Imma call this boy/guy...xonacatl c: The Nahuatl equivalent word for "onion" lol
^ Me. In dah zone
fringe heart
@zealous narwhal
finite kelp
So far I added a grandma who doesn't agree with the rest of the greedy family.
She just loves the boys gift and farming. Sticking with family traditions vs modern luxury.
....And...Uhhh...A pet parrot whose secretly some God of agriculture. > w >
This God has always blessed this family with the ability to grow amazing onions but for some reason there was a hiccup with this boy. Instead of being able to grow onions he was able to grow incredible other crops!! This was too OP of an ability so he needed to follow the boy around to inspect what went wrong. > 3 >
This god decided to take the form of a parrot (As parrots live long lives and it wouldn't look weird to stay by the boys side until his natural human death)
Hmmm...-scribble scribble-...
Yeah! I mean PFFT I need someone to bounce ideas off of! c:
fringe heart
boreal hedge
https://tenor.com/view/azumanga-daioh-hello-everyone-hello-everynyan-oh-my-goh-g...
Hello
That is a weird ghost cat
boreal hedge
fringe heart
These animations are always kinda creepy for me
zealous narwhal
magic wharf
spice shoal
uneven bay
magic wharf
yeah, latest season is just him being completely clueless about literally everything
in first seasons he was clueless too, but still tried to do something
it's like they made him dumber on purpose
ember roost
X
spice shoal
civic spoke
Meow
spice shoal
zealous narwhal
gentle grove
finite kelp
Okay sure you may like the hair and clothes but I'm looking at the souless eyes and the forced movements lol
Those soulless...dead eyes...
Lol
finite kelp
You take that back Lol
How do you look at this and see no soul
Lol
Now she has no soul~ ;D
fringe heart
summer pilot
New Support Card Coming Soon on Uma Musume
finite kelp
<:necomia:1276853890800947255> ***New Support Card Coming Soon on Uma Musume***
???
Who dat
finite kelp
I know it says Austrian and SSR on his tag
But that face, mang
That face for me says USSR lol
Also what does he do? A racer? Looks like one
Vroom vroom?
finite kelp
https://tenor.com/view/max-verstappen-f1-formule-1-gif-15087359750872636720
Also what is that number? lol 1.04.391? Is this race in the future? Lol Year 2391? Lol
summer pilot
Also what is that number? lol 1.04.391? Is this race in the future? Lol Year 239...
score points
Are those good?
summer pilot
<:fenrirDerp:1083279136996470794> Are those good?
well Good Racer
finite kelp
<:necomia:1276853890800947255> well Good Racer
Okay but is he Golden boy good?
I mean there's good
And then there's Golden Boy
Lol
summer pilot
magic wharf
finite kelp
late atlas
finite kelp
I wonder if gophers and moles are friends...
inner pilot
civic sinew
spice shoal
ember roost
lapis radish
https://youtu.be/gDL8w_Qnsgc?si=o8YFgwXwQtgVxLqM based move <:necomia:1276853890...
Tldr it for me
Im too lazy
So many work
zealous narwhal
time to try
magic wharf
versed kestrel
spice shoal
civic sinew
Tldr it for me
Basically unless there’s something that harm them FINANCIALLY , reputation risk or anything like it is not an excuse for banks and payment processors to force others to do what they want or the banks and payment processors will threaten to stop their services
If you know the whole issue with steam and it’s banning for 18+ games it’s basically solves that issue
finite kelp
-Epic guitar intro- WOOOO~
Rolling around at the speed of sound, got places to go, got to follow my rainbow!
Follow me~ Set me free~ Trust me and we will escape from the ciiittty~ Foolloow me~
ember roost
ember roost
ember roost
ember roost
spice shoal
finite kelp
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1273933998762229845/1404054196814090320/G...
This feels like one of those creepy ARGs or SCPs
summer pilot
zealous narwhal
zealous narwhal
civic sinew
I rather not
finite kelp
I rather not
Guessin` you had one to many scene kids in your school growing up, huh? lol
dark parrot
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1273933998762229845/1404054196814090320/G...
Come here love
finite kelp
Beep beep boop boop
dark parrot
it's like perks that give positive and negative stuff at the same time <:miaHmm:...
Like you?
lament prairie
nikki and nte at gamescom in 9 days
technically endfield might announce a beta (at gamescom i mean) given how long its been but
i would guess giving timing if nte will announce beta 3 or release it'd be at tgs
same for nikki about 2.0 or silver palace beta 1 if we're lucky etc
lament prairie
yeah i mean another one
technically the ps5 showcase had some dodge changes that ppl really aggressively did not like and caused a whole fuss
i think the game would do well even if combat kept having issues though
sure its not going for the same content variety as nte or whatever but
arknights has a huge fanbase and they're mostly invested in the story stuff
gonna play it and see how i feel
nikki is real btw
magic wharf
technically the ps5 showcase had some dodge changes that ppl really aggressively...
yeah, those dodges feel unnecessary af
literally just took wuwa dodges and slapped it in
not sure if it one directional only tho, like in wuwa 
cuz wuwa dodges make me wanna uninstall sometimes, how clunky those are
lament prairie
i didnt look too much into it tbh just glanced at how worked up ppl were getting and went yikes
thats the problem with focusing just on combat, very easy to mess up one aspect or have a few boring combat events in a row and put ppl off
like later pgr going full i-frame spam
magic wharf
i didnt look too much into it tbh just glanced at how worked up ppl were getting...
same, i just saw how it looks and it made me a little bit worried
like, why can't they just give us something.... seamless( can i describe it like that? 
)
why animation lock us in one direction, for a long period of time, just for the sake of making it "look good"
lament prairie
yeah i dont really like it when aesthetics take priority over functionality and smoothness
like the amount of flashing lights some games add to attacks is just ridiculous
means you can only play it in 30 minute chunks max
magic wharf
a lot of people don't even know genshin has fully functional dodges, this is how seamless(?) those are
and this is how it should be done imo
magic wharf
again, i don't mind dodges, i mind poorly implemented ones
magic wharf
what
civic sinew
again, i don't mind dodges, i mind poorly implemented ones <:miaHmm:132232077391...
I feel like people overblown the whole dodge thing acting like the game doesn’t have any unique mechanics like yah it has now just a copy paste wuwa dodge but it also has unique mechanics like it’s not just a switch game the other characters fight with you ai and a normal attack combo that actually is important to complete it fully to fill up a bar that allows you to perform abilities and a those abilities have slow motion the makes you question “am I sure I want to use it now?” Or have you wandering where to place the ability because yes you can designate the spot where you want the ability to be activated on certain abilities giving you some tactical feel
Like yah sure I don’t want it to be just a genshin/wuwa copy but yah I think that was overblown
lament prairie
games lacking content variety and unique mechanics are really going to struggle when theres the bunch of new next gen gachas next few years to compete with
ofc some of these have huge existing fanbases only ones you need to worry about are the ones burning through advertising money or making dodgy changes etc
because if you're that reliant on ads a bunch of new competitors also putting them out kinda scuppers that
and as time goes on games launch with improved engines and better tech etc
so you really cant waste the first year, or few, doing just the same thing over and over
https://forum.lastepoch.com/t/season-3-twitch-drop-and-support-a-creator-campaign/78568 21st has twitch drops too
pretty excited to try endfield still, not going to judge the changes too harshly til i actually get to test it
path of exile 2 0.3 is also a week later i think
its kinda why p5x and bp are struggling atm too
they just dont offer enough of a leap up
if they'd launched 5 years ago, sure, but the market moves on
civic sinew
ofc some of these have huge existing fanbases only ones you need to worry about ...
Having a huge fan base won’t save a bad game take for example dragon age the veil guard, having a huge fan base will boost the numbers and lessen the blow if the game was bad but relying on a huge fanbase alone won’t save a game
lament prairie
yeah if a game doesnt innovate enough from the start its an issue, more so when its a few years and and still not doing much ofc
arknights is really big though
civic sinew
if they'd launched 5 years ago, sure, but the market moves on
I wouldn’t say they are struggling but I see what you mean
lament prairie
i think endfield will do ok, but id need to play it to get a better scope of it
its one of those things where if its at least half way decent id play it a few months but not spend til im confident in it
as unless a game makes big leaps in beta and is doing a lot of different content it can expand on
combat is harder to gauge where it'll go
for gachas at least
the ai system makes it kind of tricky to balance
does this new dodge system help/harm on top, idk
civic sinew
I think I would play as well especially if they improved on the base building and strategy aspect
civic sinew
does this new dodge system help/harm on top, idk
Well the “new” dodge system definitely helps with the already existing system so I would say yes but only for those seeking combat
lament prairie
huge backlash over it isn't great though, regardless of personal thoughts on it
i dont know if thats normal or not for arknights community as i didnt really interact with it at all all the years i played arknights
at most i looked up ''is this character good'' stuff briefly
civic sinew
There was a backlash for the dodge system not existing in the betas that’s why this new dodge was implemented to appease those who wanted it was more of a fight between those who wanted the dodge system and those who didn’t with the ones that didn’t get what they wanted screaming the loudest
lament prairie
at least there isnt really much similar coming out like it
theres not that many new gachas making much progress at all really outside of endfield and nte atm
magic wharf
Like yah sure I don’t want it to be just a genshin/wuwa copy but yah I think tha...
problem isn't that it become wuwa/genshin copy, i don't want one either. that's why.... i looked at endfield with hope
problem is the dodge that i saw is copy of wuwa dodges, and i'm just afraid they will implement it the same way, the shittiest way possible, when you can only dodge in one direction and it locks you into long animation
lament prairie
the dodge changes are pretty late for something so important
and they took a whole year gap in beta
magic wharf
btw sometimes it really faster to eat the damage than do dodge
lament prairie
they can take longer if they want to, but i do kinda worry about people's tolerance for that
then again on the other hand like i said its not like much else is coming out
magic wharf
the "dodges" before changes was better, imo
lament prairie
for me wuwa's combat was ok, nothing special but no big issues either
it was the rest of the content variety and especially story that was the issue for me
ill forgive a lot of stuff for a game with a good story
but the opposite is also true, im not playing a game i have to skip cutscenes on
magic wharf
for me wuwa's combat was ok, nothing special but no big issues either
i hate the whole concerto mechanics
Literally just delaying the fights
magic wharf
5 second fight can stretch up to 15 sec just because if you don't do full rotation your damage is just suck ass
lament prairie
the main issue with all the build up stuff is it pushes them to make characters that are very dependant on other ones
so its a lot more spending
magic wharf
and if you don't - it can become 20 sec fight
lament prairie
plus ofc, the 50 system and weapon banner still
despite what pgr had and what new games are doing
civic sinew
btw sometimes it really faster to eat the damage than do dodge
I prefer to do that but seeing it’s an action gacha there’s chance there will be an enemy you really don’t want to get hit by it unless you have a good support and honestly if they go that route I want the dodge or any damage nullification mechanic
lament prairie
eh pgr got really bad with i-frame abuse later on
damage nullification can easily go to far when its used to sell characters
civic sinew
eh pgr got really bad with i-frame abuse later on
lament prairie
pgr pulls way too much from dmc and other games and somehow misses the point on top
when it stops being about player skill and more about ignoring all the damage with broken i-frame abuse from gacha swiping
it didnt start out that way ofc, it was only when it hit gen 2 that it went off the rails
combat is an easy thing to mess up, and so many games are competing on that front
magic wharf
I prefer to do that but seeing it’s an action gacha there’s chance there will be...
there is whole endgame mode that can one shot you
again, my problem isn't dodge, it's implementation
lament prairie
yeah its like how i-frames arent inheriently bad
magic wharf
and i don't like how kuro implemented it in wuwa, that's all
lament prairie
its how you use them and how frequent etc actions that cause them are
civic sinew
pgr pulls way too much from dmc and other games and somehow misses the point on ...
I would question that especially after playing both games and Virgil in pgr they hit the point on that some people even did the combos of Virgil one to one in both games (i feel they messed up dante but meh )
lament prairie
...you get that was me saying about how they are taking too many design elements from dmc and other games right
going ok but what about when they actually had a dmc collab with a dmc char is unrelated
magic wharf
I would question that especially after playing both games and Virgil in pgr they...
at least it's not like genshin x horizon collab 
lament prairie
the point is they keep retreading the same stuff but worse
its like there was no really good reason to have 3 vera expy's in one year
it made more sense back when they were small
but for tof it took them 3 years to even do 1 expy
if you're going to use an old design you cant use it super frequently and you have to add stuff to make it really stand out
special, unique features to it
lament prairie
at least it's not like genshin x horizon collab <:annaHmmbella:10630025422813471...
tbf that might have been a requirement from sony
that was back when there wasnt as much track record for how well gachas can do
and sony can be weird about crossplay etc stuff without these kinda deals
sometimes its for free marketing too
kinda surprised tof got what seemed to be a pretty large exclusive cosmetic etc deal setup
when they were small
ofc we'll never know the full details but wouldnt surprise me if they did something similar for nte
and it was decent for it to have been (presumeably negotiated) kept to 1 year exclusive cosmetics
not dumb stuff like the spiderman avengers thing
civic sinew
at least it's not like genshin x horizon collab <:annaHmmbella:10630025422813471...
We don’t talk about that it’s the crazy cousin of the family that no one should talk about
magic wharf
tbf that might have been a requirement from sony
obviously
knowing Sony and how they LOVE ruin their IP if it goes somewhere other than PS
lament prairie
idk i still think the switch or anime is more of a sore spot for fans
lament prairie
obviously
knowing Sony and how they LOVE ruin their IP if it goes somewhere oth...
with the china hero project plus how badly sony live service stuff has gone recently
i can see them really pushing games like this if they can get some kind of exclusive deal
honestly surprised how badly the home territory stuff was handled
lament prairie
id have expected this kinda mess up from microsoft, which has largely abandoned ip's now even
but i thought a few years back sony had their head on a bit more straight
civic sinew
kinda surprised tof got what seemed to be a pretty large exclusive cosmetic etc ...
One reason why I stopped playing tof was how badly it was optimized on the ps just to give an example wuwa was better optimized at launch, I don’t know how it’s now though
lament prairie
One reason why I stopped playing tof was how badly it was optimized on the ps ju...
that's entirely unrelated to what i just said
civic sinew
obviously
knowing Sony and how they LOVE ruin their IP if it goes somewhere oth...
Speaking of horizon
civic sinew
that's entirely unrelated to what i just said
Yah true I just want to throw it out there
lament prairie
yeah i wouldnt be surprised if the reason a few tencent projects havent been showing on certain sony stuff is moves like that
like sometimes these kinda claims are silly but that one was a pretty 1:1 pull
like ppl can argue oh mecha dinosaurs are generic etc but
when its projects close to the platform provider's chest
magic wharf
Speaking of horizon
if sony don't destroy them in court, i can see this game perform much better than anything after zero dawn
lament prairie
they ofc take it quite a bit personally
civic sinew
if sony don't destroy them in court, i can see this game perform much better tha...
Zero down was great idk about forbidden west but didn’t hear good things
magic wharf
Zero down was great idk about forbidden west but didn’t hear good things
DEI infested slop
all you need to know
lament prairie
actual sales dont quite matter as much as it pushing forward the platform
kinda like how halo keeps getting a free pass despite being a big mess to develop
regardless about how you personally think of the games its pretty clear its important to sony
civic sinew
I just hope they don’t get to shut it down because im interested in the tencent attempt at with the gameplay looking more centric on base building and survival then hunting robots
lament prairie
i dont think they would but it might put any tencent projects in a bit of trouble with sony when reaching out for bonus deals, support, marketing etc
finite kelp
Made by a woman <:necomia:1276853890800947255>
Feel free to explain this then
This was also made by a woman
Who fought very hard to keep her this way
lament prairie
wouldnt be surprised if it was photoshopped given who's posting it but at the same time idc
ppl make characters im not a fan of all the design elements on all the time after all
magic wharf
Indeed <:necomia:1276853890800947255>
she literally look like she drunk for a year without stopping
lament prairie
and the kinda person that will pester devs for years on end demanding it be exactly the way they personally want characters to look is just insufferable
finite kelp
Realistically it was most likely a new art team who wasn't very good. This is SONY we're talking about. SOOOONNNY JAPAN realistically Japan doesn't care about aaannnyy of that stuff lol
lament prairie
every character would just look hyper generic if they had their way etc
if char doesnt kiss mc within 1 second of meeting them scrap the game kinda type
magic wharf
best Aloy, if we talk about looks only
finite kelp
Def. They're not going to market OH NEW ART TEAM AS WELL HUEHUEHUE DAS WHY SHE LOOKS FUGLY or some thing lol
They're gonna be hush hush on that unless people noticed in the credits of the game.
lament prairie
makes games a lot worse because instead of ppl talking about mechanics they just go oh characters arent hot enough fix it fix it fix it
civic sinew
wouldnt be surprised if it was photoshopped given who's posting it but at the sa...
Well it’s from Reddit your most trusted source on top of it being from general search
lament prairie
harrassing va's etc
finite kelp
Just look at what EA did to AC. Clearly it's not just the ladies that get the downgrade treatment lol
finite kelp
I mean for fcks sake look at what they did to Cow Boy Beepbop...
lament prairie
im fine with criticizing stuff, just when someone makes it their whole personality to care about char hotness etc
gg crowd with last of us and the like etc
finite kelp
SEE That's why I play female characters more often if I have the choice
civic sinew
NOOOOOOO
lament prairie
its been half a decade, and ppl wont let it go as they use it to promote obnoxious behaviours
civic sinew
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
finite kelp
If I'm going to be staring at a character all the time in 3rd person I wanna at least look at a lady lol
civic sinew
I ALMOST FORGOT WHY REMINDING ME ?!
lament prairie
as i said opinions about this kinda stuff is fine, but there's certain stuff like this people glomp onto and make their whole personality
and just spam it any time any game discussion comes up to drown stuff out
meaning mechanics etc get ignored
magic wharf
gg crowd with last of us and the like etc
lament prairie
usually meaning the surface level stuff that doesnt matter gets fixed
finite kelp
CAN'T MAKE FUN OF REAL PPLZ
lament prairie
and the actual issues with mechanics etc go unaddressed
leading to a lot of generic games etc
magic wharf
i heard first season was good
finite kelp
leading to a lot of generic games etc
You know that's honestly the issue now and days. Gamers have confused pretty graphics with good game.
magic wharf
it's tlou curse, first game was good too
finite kelp
Resources
Really it's that simple. Triple A games have the resources to make pretty games but tend to focus so hard on that to make their money back on release. Independent studios tend to have worse graphics but MUCH BETTER GAMES
And if you want BOTH
You're gonna be looking at open beta hell for at least several years
Well...realistically we should start selling games similar to how nintendo does it with the switch
Via a card as that holds more memory than a disk.
magic wharf
You know that's honestly the issue now and days. Gamers have confused pretty gra...
there's 3 Korean mmorpgs on UE5 that looks identical
i think people already fed up with "realistic" graphics since no one could deliver a good game with it
lament prairie
You know that's honestly the issue now and days. Gamers have confused pretty gra...
yeah absolutely
finite kelp
<:fenrirkek:1174337106999529542> there's 3 Korean mmorpgs on UE5 that looks ide...
You know through out the years of going from PS1 graphics to where we are now
People keep trying to do the hyper realism thing but keep failing
Why? Hyper realism is kinda boring
lament prairie
main benefit of ue5.5 is density and amount of technical things you can do outside of graphics
its all about how you use this kinda stuff
finite kelp
You play a game to get away from realism lol not to be given more of it
Also one thing about hyper realistic games is...OMG THE CODING nope
lament prairie
yes, a lot of this stuff you could do before, but not on mobile
and mobile caps the maximum of pc on gachas
finite kelp
Imagine trying to shove all of a Biology, Physics, and mathematical PH.D into a game
Then trying to fix any bugs that occur. Where would you even start in all that line of interconnecting code?
finite kelp
Isn't that just dating any Tik Tok girl ever?
lament prairie
main thing i remember about that game is the code being nonsense
well that and there was a bunch of imitators which also didnt manage to get it done
lament prairie
its basically like trying to combine hitman with romance visual novel
finite kelp
What is valve even doing? lol
lament prairie
ah
and theres a reason you dont see many games like hitman
having everything work on a schedule and then constantly adding stuff on top is a pain
especially when you need stuff to rag doll and in a rube gholberg machine kinda way or whatever its clled
its not the kinda concept that screams indie
then again, stuff like noita exists
(roguelike fully simulated powder game)
finite kelp
https://tenor.com/view/funpic-gif-6132932
I'm confused so many of these systems don't connect lol
lament prairie
like those old flash games but on steroids
lament prairie
I'm confused so many of these systems don't connect lol
i didnt zoom in lol
finite kelp
Anyways, Timmy. That all explains how I met your mother~
Why are Chinese animes always talking about QI REFIENING FOR x,y,z YEARS!! all the time?
lament prairie
some of that stuff is way too tropey, especially the power fantasy stuff where only the mc does anything important and the plot would fall apart without them
but there are decent wuxia/xianxia things too
finite kelp
some of that stuff is way too tropey, especially the power fantasy stuff where o...
That's any anime ever lol
lament prairie
its like any genre really, you take some elements to their extreme and it can go wrong fast
finite kelp
Yeah that's another thing
Instead of a regular run-time of a show
Say 30 minutes or so with commericals 24 without give or take
They're usually AT MOST....20 minutes?
Usually 10?
lament prairie
rise of izekai manga messed up a lot of writing
same thing kinda happened with the western stuff trying to imitate avengers type writing
finite kelp
Cinderella Chef was a good one
Dis rite hur
Dis es a good one
Herbivore Dragon of 5000 years is also a good one
Never heard of it
The Richest man in game is also a fun one lol
About a guy who through some cosmic system is able to start a video game company but here's the catch...
He needs to spend all of the money he's given per period and if he MAKES a profit he LOSES money
LOSING money generates a HUGE profit for him. lol
So he does EVERYTHING you'd imagine a game developer NOT doing...but somehow still makes BANK.
Such as a car driving simulator that takes 5+ hours to finish. It only goes one direction and the same layout goes on the entire time. Cost? In USD $1
Oh and if you mess up you start all over from the beginning. Your prize for finishing? "Congratulations. You wasted X number of hours playing this game. The end."
lament prairie
Oh and if you mess up you start all over from the beginning. Your prize for fini...
thats just desert bus
finite kelp
thats just desert bus
Did that game make money? lol
lament prairie
idk but ppl stream it all the time 15h straight for charity
apparently it never came out because their publisher went bankrupt from something else just before
review copies kinda leaked and it got shared
civic sinew
finite kelp
I wonder which fruit is the most successful at being a fruit
A fruit is just a special way trees get some smelly animal such as ourselves to take it's seeds away somewhere else o:
So which one does that job the best in the wild....hmmm...
finite kelp
durian
Lieess
Smelly fruit only attracts certain smelly animals lol
These ai baby deity gifs are freaking me out . - .
Ai can sure draw but its drawn without a soul thus the image has no soul
It wants a soul
Your soul . - .
gentle grove
runic tulip
Are ppl still playing this game?
Yes.
You only need to be at a specific time to see this.
finite kelp
What's your fav type of Curry and which region?
cerulean grail
Hey Have they added in cross progression yet? Like play my mobile/pc account on ps5?
cerulean grail
https://store.steampowered.com/bundle/50849/Devil_May_Cry_FRANCHISE_PACK/
Bro just play punishing grey raven
ember roost
Bro just play punishing grey raven
yes playing both
cerulean grail
warm spire
Yes.
Thats how TOA looks like right now? Damn it looks like a game i played back in 2010. Ragnarok/Tera
runic tulip
durian
Durian...
HSR banner ended...tomorrow is the update...
...and yet, I haven't even played the collab event.
Which is expected, since I'll only login on day 1 of the patch, then offline for the rest of the patch duration...
Don't have time to play + not enough storage.
2TB SSDs are quite expensive here, so not gonna buy them anytime soon...
magic wharf
HSR banner ended...tomorrow is the update...
...and yet, I haven't even played ...
rerun banner ended, collab banner gonna be here for long time, so, you have plenty of time
runic tulip
Still, gonna miss the collab banner anyways...
Dunno when I'll play back...
Genshin also...I haven't played for almost a year.
I logged in once every 6 weeks.
Just to collect maintenance compensation, and redeem codes, then offline for 6 weeks.
The cycle continues.
And yes, summer event on Genshin...gonna miss that too...
magic wharf
why even login then
magic wharf
i mean, what's the point if you not gonna play it anyway
i'd just uninstall at this point
lapis radish
i mean, what's the point if you not gonna play it anyway
i'd just uninstall at t...
yet you still a fake tofer
lapis radish
fake tofer indeed
magic wharf
the moment i stop playing.... i stop playing
lapis radish
very blackbruh
runic tulip
I installed then uninstalled HSR every patch update.
I need to reserve 100GB of free space.
I'll only uninstall Genshin once it reaches 100GB.
I still play wuwa, but idk for how long .
magic wharf
I'll only uninstall Genshin once it reaches 100GB.
wasn't it happened already?
ember roost
X
runic tulip
wasn't it happened already?
Mine not yet, but it's just a matter of time...
ashen obsidian
The new oval track for INDYcar looking good so far
lament prairie
Are ppl still playing this game?
also it made 600 million $ first two years and is working on a giant new game that should be out in a few months or start of next year
lament prairie
civic sinew
Thats how TOA looks like right now? Damn it looks like a game i played back in 2...
Numbers aren’t great like tera numbers but hey it’s still kicking
silent comet
652 players ?
lament prairie
the steam client had specific issues when it launched, and some of the big mmo's like guild wars 2 dont exactly have many people playing on steam
but vodka doesn't play the game and are here to troll so they know how to be misleading
i mean as huge as guild wars 2 is even, it took guild wars 2 10 years to make what tof did in 2
they've already made enough to fund a decade of development
(if guild wars 2 can last that long with that whole amount, tof making even more than that in just over 2 years is more than sufficient)
tof initial team was tiny after all
waxen basalt
you can search on activeplayer.io, it has different numbers (probably mobile only tho) 😄
civic sinew
652 players ?
Well like luna said not everyone uses steam but what she forgets to mention is it’s a good metric to measure players count because almost everyone uses steam I always use it as a metric of sort to guess the actual numbers what I usually do is I take steam numbers and multiply it by the numbers of platforms including separate launcher then steam
waxen basalt
lament prairie
and as i said, tof made as much as gw2 did in 10 years in 2
there abouts
even not factoring in the tof team being way smaller and budget a lot lower
ofc, nte is 400 staff and aaa budget but thats still a crazy amount of money to work with
else you wouldnt be able to sustain and develop new content for a big mmo like gw2 a decade with it
civic sinew
https://www.reddit.com/r/TowerofFantasy/comments/1c4x2lw/2023_perfect_world_inve...
The irony when you say Im misleading
lament prairie
The irony when you say Im misleading <:necomia:1276853890800947255>
these are literally official revenue reports, cope harder
civic sinew
these are literally official revenue reports, cope harder
Not only me and the others at the dna server that called you out and you just keep dodging
lament prairie
Not only me and the others at the dna server that called you out and you just ke...
yes, im aware what happened there, you and your friends spammed slurs at everyone (which you have even admitted here), then you came here and to other hotta game socials to brigade while not playing tof
civic sinew
And here you go again switching the topic
lament prairie
im kind of surprised you're bringing it up given how atrociously you've acted there
civic sinew
Im atrocious? That’s Weird im not banned and even the admins at the server didn’t care about your complaints
lament prairie
the fact you're aware of the official revenue reports and still trying to pretend the game did badly is also blatently obvious
civic sinew
the fact you're aware of the official revenue reports and still trying to preten...
Did you read it ?
lament prairie
Im atrocious? That’s Weird im not banned and even the admins at the server didn’...
yes, that tends to happen when one of your friends who was encouraging the slur use gets to be a volunteer mod
so rules being selectively enforced is unsurprising
civic sinew
Then you wouldn’t mind pointing it out where it says they get to keep that 600million
lament prairie
And here you go again switching the topic <:necomia:1276853890800947255>
you're literally talking about another server
civic sinew
you're literally talking about another server
No ? Did the pictures I attached didn’t download properly?
lament prairie
Then you wouldn’t mind pointing it out where it says they get to keep that 600mi...
@gentle grove might want to keep an eye on this kinda thing, person is deliberately trying to troll hotta stuff in multiple places despite not playing the game for years
civic sinew
lament prairie
#off-topic message < this shows it a bit clearer
lament prairie
I didn’t say that here <:necomia:1276853890800947255>
you're only not resorting to your usual slur spam etc as you know you'd get actually acted on here unlike in other servers
civic sinew
Again did I do it here ?
lament prairie
you're doing the same kind of behaviour, and have admitted to deliberately trolling as per the link i gave
nothing more really needs to be said
civic sinew
When did I admit I was trolling
Oh you mean the other server
Well that’s pegs the question is did I do any of that here ? So far I asked you legit questions and you keep dodging and calling mods
lament prairie
doing it in a subtler way then sealioning doesnt mean people can't see what you're doing
sometimes i wonder why i even call it out, with how blatently you're doing it on other socials you're potentially just accidentally promoting the games while damaging the ones you actually play
but id rather those other games dont get backlash due to a group of trolls going around either
especially when you keep directly admitting it like the link given
if you go round the place going i smash windows but i havent smashed any in this particular house yet, how would you expect to be treated
civic sinew
sometimes i wonder why i even call it out, with how blatently you're doing it on...
Oh wow you keep a track of what I do in other servers ? I’m flattered
But for real don’t lie lying isn’t good for the soul , you don’t know anything about me and what I do in other servers also don’t act like a saint I keep trying to have a conversation with you but you kept dodging questions and legit arguments and act like they aren’t real arguments and they are trolls you even got called out here if you had any decency to read any screen shot I send you don’t act surprised when people don’t treat you nicely
Hopefully you eventually learn to be more empathetic and listen to people and maybe people won’t treat you badly but I doubt it and I will leave it at thst
obtuse narwhal
Well like luna said not everyone uses steam but what she forgets to mention is i...
I want to understand your point of being here server, not even playing and just here trolling, if you're going to cry because the game is still active, I advise you to make a video, that way your circus could be funnier
proud python
I want to understand your point of being here server, not even playing and just ...
the point is to find entertainment
obtuse narwhal
Nobody cares about numbers or whatever, everyone just wants to play.
civic sinew
the point is to find entertainment
Indeed and specifically luna
proud python
its up to mods to decide if drama farming is allowed or not
obtuse narwhal
Nobody cares about numbers or whatever, everyone just wants to play.
Acting like a ____ doesn't change much, the game won't change because you're here crying, we already have Stix who has been doing this for years almost every day and nothing changes
Just sit and cry like him
gentle grove
boreal hedge
Yoo
civic sinew
Just sit and cry like him
Relax dude
lapis radish
<:1045_Himari_sad:752134282356588545>
quit spend money on lel and deepspace
civic sinew
If you want to understand my point of view let me explain it
obtuse narwhal
Nobody cares about points here, probably nobody here is invested in playing game analyst
boreal hedge
Enough discussion
civic sinew
Nobody cares about points here, probably nobody here is invested in playing game...
You asked
boreal hedge
To each their own
obtuse narwhal
Nobody cares about points here, probably nobody here is invested in playing game...
If you want to play and have fun with the guys, you're welcome. If you're going to stay here crying, I certainly recommend looking for your bubble, because this isn't your bubble.
lapis radish
Enough discussion
you the discussion
vera not banned yet and you still a fake tofer
boreal hedge
vera not banned yet and you still a fake tofer
Sorry about that
lapis radish
le avocado still ruin the pizza
boreal hedge
lapis radish
https://tenor.com/view/vminqis-gif-23100971
civic sinew
If you want to play and have fun with the guys, you're welcome. If you're going ...
Well the mods aren’t banning me or kicking me so i feel welcomed
boreal hedge
Everyone is welcome, but what is not welcome is discord and fighting over something “irrelevant.”
Well, be warned, no fighting
boreal hedge
today i spent even more
gentle grove
obtuse narwhal
Everyone is welcome, but what is not welcome is discord and fighting over someth...
Well, if that's the case, it's about time, don't you think @gentle grove @boreal hedge ? I've seen people getting kicked for less.
They are not here to play or talk like normal people, just to troll, kicking or banning will not change anything.
magic wharf
but vodka doesn't play the game and are here to troll so they know how to be mis...
i mean, while it is somewhat true, good games tend to have more players on the platform in which they released later
guild wars 2 was released on steam 10 years after initial release, and sitting with 86% positive reviews and 5.1k players in game
tof on the other hand, released on steam ~2 months after initial release, and numbers never once gone up from day one
it is safe to assume tof doesn't grow at all
you can cope all you want, but it's just true what numbers say
and accusing everyone of trolling isn't gonna make game better
lament prairie
blackbruh will said first word
😮 psychic
obtuse narwhal
and accusing everyone of trolling isn't gonna make game better
LOL as if crying over steam numbers would make the game better?
magic wharf
LOL as if crying over steam numbers would make the game better?
ofc not
obtuse narwhal
Like I said
magic wharf
but why so defensive about it
obtuse narwhal
Acting like a ____ doesn't change much, the game won't change because you're her...
.
magic wharf
i mean... "crying" changed more games than being unhealthy positive about it
for good or worse
just look at dodges in endfield
lament prairie
its always the same people that ignore the mods asking for discussion to stop when a conversation hasnt gone their way, too
obtuse narwhal
Yes, but it's true, optimization is an acceptable criticism, that's not a lie.
Now will crying over numbers change anything?
magic wharf
its always the same people that ignore the mods asking for discussion to stop wh...
i never even said anything negative
if you don't like different opinions - don't include yours
obtuse narwhal
Now will crying over numbers change anything?
They know more than us what the numbers are, because I would cry about something that I don't know exactly
For me this is a troll, and it doesn't change anything. If you want to make a real constructive criticism, there's the chat #1220745020735492106
magic wharf
Yes, but it's true, optimization is an acceptable criticism, that's not a lie.
i mean, not everyone become stix, if they criticize the game, some criticism is relevant yet some people will attack you for that, provoke you, and then tell you that you're "just a troll" while trying to get mods attention to get them banned
obtuse narwhal
For me this is a troll, and it doesn't change anything. If you want to make a re...
trolling over a game that is active with supposedly 600 Steam players, it won't change anything here, because whoever is here just wants to play and have fun
magic wharf
not everything is a troll, ya'll need to accept that people can have different opinion
and it's normal
obtuse narwhal
I want to understand your point of being here server, not even playing and just ...
Like I said
obtuse narwhal
For me this is a troll, and it doesn't change anything. If you want to make a re...
.
magic wharf
that doesn't change anything
"for me this is just a troll" is just a way to hide yourself from harsh reality of people having different opinion
obtuse narwhal
Ok bard, see you in 5.4
magic wharf
you can't just label someone "insert a buzzword" and expect to have good conversation or even convince the opposite side that they are wrong doing that
obtuse narwhal
"for me this is just a troll" is just a way to hide yourself from harsh reality ...
The problem is that no one asked anyone's opinion, someone just asked if the game was active
Nobody wanted to know anyone's opinion
it was a yes or no question
Just need to say, yes it is active and they are already testing 5.3 which is the next version global
with 5.4 arriving at CN
magic wharf
it was a yes or no question
yes, and destiny immediately call them troll for just uploading screenshot from steam, without even anything negative
it's not healthy
obtuse narwhal
If that's not an opinion, I don't know what is.
For a yes or no answer, it seems pretty specific.
magic wharf
If that's not an opinion, I don't know what is.
is it enough to disregard something someone says by labeling them a troll?
obtuse narwhal
Well, goodbye and see you in 5.4 and 5.5 who have things ready
civic sinew
yes, and destiny immediately call them troll for just uploading screenshot from ...
Mind you I didn’t say anything about active player io because I didn’t know how accurate it it could be inaccurate but didn’t feel the right to say anything if I was really trolling or misleading I would have said something
magic wharf
Well, goodbye and see you in 5.4 and 5.5 who have things ready
so, as usual
obtuse narwhal
is it enough to disregard something someone says by labeling them a troll?
Sure, if this were just today, but every time he shows up, I don't see anything constructive.
magic wharf
i won't won't play tof in 5.4 and up probably
maybe i'll change my mind after 6.0 news, depends on what they are planning
obtuse narwhal
Sure, if this were just today, but every time he shows up, I don't see anything ...
Since it's not recent, I've already noticed the steps
magic wharf
Sure, if this were just today, but every time he shows up, I don't see anything ...
what can be more constructive than including real numbers from the real platform in which game released as far as we can see
obtuse narwhal
i won't won't play tof in 5.4 and up probably
maybe i'll change my mind after 6....
great
magic wharf
or is it better if everyone will say "game is kicking ass, millions of players, download and play"? Pog Pog Pog
how is it any better than google play with fake reviews on every fake mobile game ever?
civic sinew
i won't won't play tof in 5.4 and up probably
maybe i'll change my mind after 6....
Im waiting for a fix for the ps clientI did play it and im waiting for better optimization
obtuse narwhal
obtuse narwhal
or is it better if everyone will say "game is kicking ass, millions of players, ...
No bro, you just need to be a normal person.
The game is active and there are people playing, I advise you to test it if it caught your attention, Then you can draw your own conclusions about whether you're going to play or not.
Simple and direct answer
magic wharf
No bro, you just need to be a normal person.
The game is active and there are p...
normal by your standards is only when people agreeing with you
no one said people aren't playing the game, your problem is they said what you consider as "wrong" and "not normal"
although there's nothing wrong and "not normal" about it
obtuse narwhal
Nobody cares about numbers, they care about fun.
magic wharf
even slightest derivative from your perception of reality lead to you attacking/slandering/belittling your opponent
that is what happening every time someone talk "not normal" about game you love so much
if that what you call normal, then no, i'll choose to stay "not normal" by any means
cheers
ember roost
obtuse narwhal
even slightest derivative from your perception of reality lead to you attacking/...
Well, coming from you who spreads missinfo around, like the one where PWG mentioned that PW NW didn't have P2W like Tarisland said, I don't really know if you say that
Well, goodbye since you're leaving the TOF
magic wharf
Well, coming from you who spreads missinfo around, like the one where PWG mentio...
exactly what i'm talking about
you brush off everything as possibility, and only chose to accuse me of spreading misinfo
even after i said i was wrong
magic wharf
you want to be "on the right side of hisoty" even if it means alienate everyone around
magic quartz
@near anvil
magic wharf
and the best part, pnw wasn't even my point back then, it just mentioned once, but you do you
spice shoal
zealous narwhal
magic wharf
magic wharf
yep, horse
magic wharf
d
versed kestrel
You got her alrighty
warm spire
also it made 600 million $ first two years and is working on a giant new game th...
Ahh so ToA is about to become less players. Cause everyone will abandon ship
obtuse narwhal
Ahh so ToA is about to become less players. Cause everyone will abandon ship
What is ToA?
This?
agile schooner
You got her alrighty <:fenrirkek:1174337106999529542>
boreal hedge
he’s married now no more discord
warm spire
What is ToA?
Ah shit ToF
obtuse narwhal
Ah shit ToF
The games' proposals are very different, one is solo player with co-op, and the other is looking for a MMORPG casual with gacha, with the tryhard MMORPG server without gacha probably coming out this month in China.
This is the news, it is not yet confirmed for global, but first they want to see the reception of the CN
And yes, a lot changes between the two servers.
magic wharf
What is ToA?
nah, it's tower of adversity, wuwa stuff
spice shoal
D*mn, How many days have passed? And no sign of the Sun.
finite kelp
Lol wth
I saw an article where a bunch of hand soaps were recalled...for bacterial contimination causing sepsis. Lol
Think about that. How badly you had to have MESSED UP at your job to contiminate HAND SOAP with massive amounts of bacteria capable of eating your flesh away if used on an open wound
You know the thing people would sometimes use hand soap to clean
Enough bacteria that it made the alcohols and antibiotics usually introduced into those things go "Nope. Nah. This is just unfair. We give up."
(Pretend those are bacterias and not viruses lol)
civic sinew
long story Short soap doesn’t kill bacteria it soap basically sticks to both water and germs oils etc and when you wash the soap off your hands the soap basically rips the germs off your skin
Meaning it’s worse then you think it’s so contaminated that I wouldn’t be surprised if 75% of the soap was just germs
Its basically too much how did a screw up this badly happen?
finite kelp
long story Short soap doesn’t kill bacteria it soap basically sticks to both wat...
MEH OKAY BIO MAJOR lol I didn't want to get into the specifics but yes That is true...for natural soaps or the way they SHOULD be manufactured. Also it doesn't only just bind to the outside membrane of the bacteria but it helps rip it apart. This is actually why you can give yourself skin irritation by using too much soap.
Right now most HAND soaps meaning the liquid stuff is made with some sort of alcohol and or a antibiotic of somesort.
Why? Dunno. Regular soap works fine so not sure why people added those things in haha
finite kelp
Upside to working for a school. Paid summer vacation. What the students have off you have off.
Downside for working for a school. YOUR OFF THE ENTIRE SUMMER. x - x Everyone else is doing stuff and being productive meanwhile you're just dorking around waiting for September to begin.
lapis radish
<@308543870440964097> bro where are you
you eat him
warm spire
nah, it's tower of adversity, wuwa stuff <:annaHmmbella:1063002542281347133>
Woops u caught me there
zealous narwhal
dark parrot
@sly ember TOBY CHAN
sly ember
sly ember
<@308543870440964097> TOBY CHAN
zealous narwhal
zealous narwhal
ember roost
X
sly ember
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Where Chixi
dark parrot
yesterday i was so in love with my crush
sly ember
Its over toby
It's not joever till I say it is, fool