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the systems and mechanics etc are not there
there's a difference between a remaster, a remake and a spiritual successor
gta defective edition
if you're not talking about what was dropped, removed, and only positive changes etc
then you're giving a misleading picture

much as like how you keep pointing to random vids about the mtx instead of checking it yourself
not being told this kinda thing is part of why the original fell apart
so i'd have hoped people would have learned from it
and be way more careful about how they represent stuff
you were originally implying it was the same game just with extra stuff on top
and that the mtx was cosmetic
you're clearly not in a reasonable mood so i dont see the point discussing stuff further
yeah as did the previous game
then proceeded to add highly p2w stuff you can only buy, not grind for
or something? if you dont know...
this is why its important to triple check
instead of just parroting what videos say
Just try the game its free anyway 
yeah try it just dont spend til you know they wont screw you over again
then dont get mad at me for pointing out paralells in stuff you're not aware about and speaking of as if you know
if you dont know how the original version was operated this entire conversation is pointless
Share with us the original version 
But doesn't matter would play new version anyway
if i get a dollar for every time devs said their game won't be p2w - i'd have enough to buy a terraria, at the very least
then on release, or couple of months after, when they add it, they always say "it's not p2w, it's pay for convenience", "in our understanding, it's not p2w, sorry for YOUR misunderstanding" bullshit
what i'm trying to say is: never believe what devs saying about monetization.
especially in a mmorpg
p2w isn't about predatory by itself
predatory is just a dot on a scale of p2w. lost ark as example, or lineage 2, or any game that has "not guaranteed" gear enhancements, yet sells additional things that can boost the chances.
if you can buy anything that get you advantage over f2p(or low spender), even small one, is, technically, p2w
Even inventory space
you need to look at it in the way of how p2w the game is.
is game good enough for you not to lose your mind playing as f2p or low spender? if yes, then it's fine.
some games, like warframe as example, letting you buy literally everything for real money, which is considered p2w
BUT, you also can grind for everything, and it's cheap enough that you can do it in a reasonable amount of time. talking about days, not even weeks.
so, it depends 
The First Descendant on the other hand, game that is highly inspired by warframe
completely paywalled inventory/character slots. And mind you, you will need a lot of it if you want to have fun. and this is how easy you can make your game predatory.
actually, idk if they changed it
but this is why i stopped playing, cuz it was suffocating. and i really tried, i have 157 hours in it
yep
that's my point 
Level Infinite/Tencent saying the same thing about Tarisland
Just look at the state of the game now...
||hidden p2w ||and trash cosmetic gacha
Here is the result
so did bethesda about fallout 76
so did blizzard about wow tokens
so did EA about battlefront 2
so did literally every Korean company that makes mmorpgs for global market(cuz p2w perceived completely different in Korea)
so did PWG with their new(now cancelled) perfect new world game
every company doing that
cuz they can't just say "yeah, it will be p2w"
As you said, canceled = players couldn't spend money they would soon lose with the server shutdown.
I never said this was for the players, as they themselves said it was due to the expectation of low profits. But as every action has its reaction, this was one of them.
Some of these projects, which they call "No P2W," to me simply serve as a strategy to attract attention and extract maximum revenue for six months to one year, and then reduce focus on the game when profits drop. So, they openly implemented P2W (before they only had hidden p2w).
Stop talking nonsense and learn to differentiate things, and don't tag me to talk nonsense
sometimes, i wish i am this naive 
life would be a lot easier
"Perfect New World" was not officially canceled, but it's highly likely the project was abandoned due to a combination of factors including financial struggles, staff layoffs, and negative feedback during beta testing.
no game get cancelled in a fear of making a lot of money
now it's officially cancelled tho, or is it? 
what
only one game from the list above is cancelled
i don't understand what point are you trying to make
Dude, what you're saying, PWG never said that this PW NW wouldn't have p2w
If you're going to talk nonsense, please avoid tagging me.

in their socials, it was stated as "non-p2w mmorpg", then they redacted it to "classic mmorpg"
it happened somewhere in 2023 iirc
send me a source at least
It's easy to say something that never existed and say it existed without existing.
Just go there, as always fallacies without source, and then say you're too lazy to look for it or something like that
There is no official publication from PWG about there not being P2W in PW NW, it's simple to accept, if someone said that in a video or something, it wasn't PWG who said it (If this really existed, it would be talked about a lot).
believe what you want, i just said what happened
What happened only in your head, has to be
Fact from where, sources?
how can i even find something that being redacted out about two years ago
Amazingly everything about this disappeared today, spare me
TODAY?
BRO i just said it happened two years ago
i can't even open their facebook page anymore
You must be confused with tarisland
It had those same words, classic mmorpg and no p2w
nope
And where is your source?
tarisland devs said it on interview
and that's my whole point, don't believe devs when they talk about p2w their game or not 
But your point needs to involve PW NW who never even mentioned this? Spreading missinfo is easy, right?

??????????

oh, yeah, tarisland did it, i'm dumb
Only then do you confuse the games?
what
PWG never used the term (no p2w)
If you just tagged me for this, I know tarisland used this, I followed it, if it wasn't to give me an answer or a source of what we were discussing before, you don't need to tag me
well, so is others(i think?), or at least they haven't said it straight
but they all always say "it's not pay to win, it's pay for convenience" bullshit after implementing p2w
or nerfing drop chances to funnel people to in game shop(bethesda)
So what you said has nothing to do with what we were talking about, Tarisland was one that used
Bard, everyone is watching you do your 4d chess to escape that you had spoken before
It was good content for dazoo
escape what?
Thank you Bard
i literally said that it was tarisland and i'm dumb 
there's nothing to escape, i don't need to
No Bard, no one did it like Tarisland that's the point, accept that you are wrong
well, that's a stretch
if we're talking about exactly words "non-p2w" maybe you're right, but that's not really my point
that thing confused a lot of people 
what does that mean

"Dazoo" likely refers to the restaurant Dazoo in Paia, Maui, Hawaii, described as a lively and popular spot. 
so, which one is it? 
i'm not watching gateoo, so i don't really know what kudog(the word you used before) and dazoo means
Well, that's it, when citing examples, look for sources to compare with the case (as it is very useless to cite things that never talked about what we are talking about) and read the conversation too, nobody wants to know about points that don't make sense in the conversation, see you later Bard
my point is still stays tho, i was wrong only about perfect new world stating it's non-p2w
you literally did what you just described by hijacking into peaceful conversation and making it about only one company that you don't like, when literally everyone does this shit
you fixated on a word instead of an actions
we were talking about actions, not a single word
Man, can't you see the difference? It's one thing to talk about it, it's one thing to never mention it.
I already said that Me talked about this about Devs speaking openly, I mentioned another game that also did this openly
it doesn't matter how they describe it, be it "it's f2p friendly" or "we don't have p2w, only pay for convenience"
no company will ever admit that their game is p2w
Coincidentally it's from Tencent, I never said that any game didn't have p2w, they just said it wouldn't.
that was wuwa

W, it's f2p friendly
Yes, that Solon Lee even became a meme
Calm down, I'll look for it
but it doesn't make sense
gacha games are p2w in most literal meaning of it
It became a meme on reddit, this was at the time of the anniversary

Calm down, I have to get to the old publications


i don't rember so many character banners on anniversary 
well, it doesn't matter cuz i'm f2p in wuwa anyway
so player friendly that i still don't have enough characters to fully clear ToA 
Well, better content on dazoo, as always
Goodbye Bard, I'm going back to my gameplay
oh, isn't that the dude who was trash talking genshin, telling that exploration is locked behind mavuika, that cost 350$? and praising wuwa for not having it, while wuwa has the same gacha system and released characters that did it too?

wuwa is already barely keeping up 
they turned game into a dating sim with occasional fighting
i think the amount of yap, and text in the game surpassed even genshin 
@magic wharf

That will not be a Kyozo-sama wa kami mi natta moment tho

Bruh woke up and choose to be racist
blue ranger
How’s that compared with AOV?
better version of AOV
allian is weak in hok
Ah, that’s better
they added grade system in hok
if u get s rank and lose in ranked match u will still promote
story is less
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Uma Musume feels cring but it's a nice Doro
Thought it was Ayaka from Genshin for a sec
I see
Naruhodo
Yeah since looking at front hair looks like Ayaka 
THAT'S THE SPIRIT

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What the actual fuck
someone need to check his browser/discord history
also, we already have vrchat for that
what the heck?
what

nice
is it? 
8 am UTC-4 = 8 pm UTC+8
oh, wait, it's 8 am 
the livestream war
pvp stream
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We need to go back to 1.4
Tell Atlus they're not welcome in the gachasphere

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@spice shoal @ember roost i bought a pendant for my fiancé but got ambushed by Doro
er
kill that doro
doro spoiled ur gift
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Thought they abandonned mk1
mk1 game is ended they are working new game
That fast ?
2 kombat pack and end
Jeez
no more new charcters
mk1 was now woke enough 
Yea , should just left it at mk11 then left it run more longer
Speaking of that
5 years for 1 button
ehe
Now that NTE 1st global CBT is done, the Ananta agenda movement have begun their work.
Even after that, people still wants a proper skip button, especially in g game.
Indeed
24 hours 24 mins left before wuwa stream
25 hours 24 mins left before g game stream
Can't wait for pvp
Comparing each other updates.

I'll kill the horses
@summer pilot @zealous narwhal

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Nothing is sacred to them not even corpses ? 
mk2 2nd trailer
that is JADE ?
am i losing it, or this exact woman is in every DEI infested game?
No that not debra wilson
Look more like that one from naughty dog new project game
yeah that's her
oh, now they have two templates 

most annoying part is when they have a super long cutscene with a fight after and you have to redo the whole thing again
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does it matter?
!!! they made it a feature already !!!
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그냥 3인칭으로 해도 감성 충만한 풍경 많이 나오는데 1인칭이 진짜 더 쩔긴 하네요
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Nah nah, I flew past
No SEA for me

@sly ember Tof soon maybe
appears to be the FSR 3
they mentioned frame injection and that's only in FSR 3

I see
So I'm watching 17 again and all I can think is "GIRL, IF YOU DIDN'T WANT HIM TO THROW THE GAME DON'T WALK OFF ALL DRAMATIC" Fckin` hell. Just those moments you wish you could reach into time and slap the writer in the face before they could create such a moronic character.
So I had my interview...
And...
I gotz the yob
Granted I figured I would I have plenty of experience in the role
Meanwhile the back of my brain is telling me this
"Psst...it doesn't matter if you have a job or not. Life will suck. Having a job solves one problem but brings others."
"You will never know peace again Adult Human...Eveeerr agaaaiiinn...until you're like 60 or something"
Damn 36.00 USD for this ?

still better than buy Concord
Yeah
Seem Anomaly
(it shouldn't be angry expression when you asking grandpa)
GOOD FCKING LORD WHAT IS THIS THING
Why does this Chinese baby have the face of a 30 year old man with debt and life worries?!
Its game just imagine 36.00 USD for this 
That is good question we asked for 
damn even the community

Just imagine this
Your target players are children
And you going to price that game for around 36.00 USD 
Because.
We.
That even GTA 5 are worth it than this 
C-C-C-COMBO BREAKER

I never see him smiling like that for a dacade
That boy should be edgy
These folks need some style
But smile like that its anomaly
More like they need to watch the animation instead
I rather watch the animation than playing the game

It's a show?
there is a show
and now they try adaptation by making a game
where the kid that make poem
and the rich fat one
FUKN BASED
huh
i thought CN/JP would not like it due to the past one eos'ing
I think this site is called Qimai
CN has a long memory
but i didnt expect that
still though idk that revenue chart well so ima take it with a heavy pinch of salt
like i might tell ppl to be wary of purchasing til you're sure its stable a bit more but not much else
could be launch issues but thats a bit steep for just that
kinda thing where if i was more interested in the game id bookmark to check how cn is doing before launch
@fathom brook Yes, Tarisland really gacha clothes very expensive
@lament prairie
Today
That was yesterday
first week and month are usually most of a game's first year income
Yes
Did the Chinese players get an exclusive beta ?

that character literally has icarus's moves they should really change it
Global could’ve saved it

You got to believe me on this they been waiting 8 years
Watch the beta somehow be more active than the actual game

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where gameplay ananta?
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Horse game fun enough
Godspeed

I don't have that high requirements actually, but the art and gameplay of this game are just not up to par
men 
You will 
Damn this game is entertaining
A lot of people playing horse game these days
How is it actually

🤔
Nope
just felt entertain
Emotional Entertainment

I just only got 1 3 star

Weird posture

🍞
🍞
OI. WHERE THE FUK U BEEN

Been DRIFTING
on a horse?

You can. In RDR2 
Pwease
Déja Vu!
I've just been in this place before
Higher on the street
And I know it's my time to go
Just imagine
Cool
Umm.. no
You're 12 days early
But yes
Dank u

This is why I sentence u to 8 years in the Er Wang Dong cave system in Chongqing, China
Even horses need entertainment
aaaa um..
Yeah
I knew it
Just joking
Yes yes

It's a shopping centre office

Can I poke them?

Chixia u cring all time
Ohh!?
I am DAMN sure you've been Weirding infinite times when I was drifting
U irony man

🛌
U drifting
U sus af

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For 85 bucks~
All I had to do was let someone take photos of my elbows with peanut butter on em. Dunno why but scooooreee (I'm joking. It was a really good deal from someone moving and couldn't bring the laptop. They lived in a RICHY RICH RICH neighborhood so money I guess wasn't a factor.)

Imagine they used this laptop to hack into the NSA or something lol Now it's my problem
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She is the Doro that is approaching
PROVOKING
BLACK CLOUDS IN I S O L A T I O N
I'll trap you in a cage, tape it up with cardboard, then send you to the Er Wang Dong cave system in Chongqing, China
@magic wharf I see u typing

how, how the heck they couldn't bring a laptop while moving, laptops made to be easily movable
it doesn't make sense 
check it as fast as possible
i know 
Why do I feel like Lyon's someone's alt? I swear, his personality is just the right amount of
and 
sus 
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How much getting paid from chinese
I smell bribery

My laptop isn’t movable
If I move it, it might not boot again
Alienware peak
Since the franchise is from my country, people are doomposting this game back home because it's too expensive, the quality doesn't match with the price tag, etc...

I saw @summer pilot screenshot and read review
They liked the franchise but not the game. xDD
I assume its pretty bad game
Like why the game
Just make more tv series for kid and toy stuff
no way they are making a video game
Its like you expecting the kid to ask parent buy expensive pc game just to play
malaysian moment

it should have been a boboiboy game but they got upin & ipin instead
Yea this like fighting ugly alien game
Just why upin ipin make no sense
I saw like advertise about it like in production promotion
I thought its like fan game
Turn out its official
I can buy expedition 33 way cheaper
Unreal Engine 5 moment
Wait the thing on ue5 ?
yes
I thought its ue4
The price here back home, one comment said, "...with DAT price, better buy Wukong game..."

@mint ridge
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I'm stealing this gif

indeed
It's a HEAAVY gaming laptop that's realy wide.
Lordy lord haha
Uglymug epic fighter so far is a hoot
Imagine being so OP that simply flicking a booger causes a huge crash that can take a wall and multiple bad dudes. lol
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this collab announced before shadows released

Jack Ma himself is paying me

You're due to be shipped off to the Er Wang Dong cave system in Chongqing, China in 3 days
Why u always dragging me into caves ?
Watch ya upto?
It's good for you
You get to 

Seriously!?
He's never been in a cave
that one is a good one tho
Smh, this is for ur own good!
It has its own weather system as well
How so?!
Chixaxa
I only sentence people. Send them to a place where I can never hope to go 
Go in my stead, Chixulub Crater person
I see
Fuk u

Tobutsuto
U get no chixulub

Give me a eggplant gif
i exchanged her with coins
in 2 days we get 10 pulls from lottery spin event
i pulled her memento tho
lazy ahh cat
I'm afraid you're sorely mistaken, Chickshia. You go to Chinese cave now yes?
See you next fall habibi
hae haeeee
@sly ember cool character with cute weapon
Yamero

Alright let me see what you got
Emphasis on the literal booba in the second image
and break the ice with the image of the battleaxe 
She did it
She deserve the trophy
Bath time, Chixulub
Off ya go

Crappy game for suck cat

Imagine got free massage by horse
hae haeee mr.toby
💀 Broooo Naaaaah

I have invaded Indonesia
I see 
wait how you know If I'm did that before in my HOI4

The more you know each other the deep search they want to know your location 
I want back play CS2
but it's really hard lol
Like what ? 

I will eat them


All must be consumed
If you consume human does you will gain more power ?
If they're fitter than me, yes

I see
true gacha player
What's your fav power fantasy isekai/anime?

Reincarnated as a vending machine
Redo of healer
the mistfit of demonking acedemy
Anos VoldiGOAT 
Isekai Nobiri…very chill…
Not my fav but def a fun watch
Life With an Ordinary Guy Who Reincarnated Into a Total Fantasy Knockout
Oh that one where it is not technically BL
Huehue Yes
SAME 
third-person-view? means we can see Ethan Winter wholely?
i thought avatar is 3rd person 
also, since when this avatar game is "major"? 
i mean, im not a big fan but its one of the highest selling movies of all time
movies, yes, not games
they are releasing in december becoz avatar 3rd part movie coming in december
i like first avatar, even if story is total bullshit 
its ok
this month trailer is coming
https://youtu.be/WH4GWBJGwoQ im really glad nte is making first person mode official
클베 끝나고 개발자 노트에서 1인칭 모드 개발중이라고 오피셜 떴습니다! 넘 기대되네요 Devs said they're making first person perspective! We all won!!
이환 2차 CBT 중 1인칭 시점으로 플레이가 진행되는 버그가 발생했는데 효과가 너무 굉장했던 관계로 중국에선 1인칭 모드 꼭...
is it really necessary to have in game like NTE tho?
gta got it
i can't imagine fighting in first person 
so having attention to detail on the city coupled with that should help the game do well
you don't have to do the fighting in it though
the game is pretty clearly going for a lot of side modes etc and exploration stuff
i wouldnt be surprised if there was a setting to auto put you in/out of it for combat
yeah, gta is also a shooter, not an "action-slasher-with-a-lot-of-skills" type of a game
imagine first person DMC 
elder scrolls
have you seen the vid btw
i mean, almost all third person games have first person mode for that, called camera 
eh, cyberpunk 2077 has been one of the most requested games to have both and theres overlap
not even close to the amount of action per second done
this is also just the game in its 1.0 state
being a live service game means you can keep stacking up stuff and improving a lot especially in terms of content variety
its just most of the big ones got really lazy instead
@boreal hedge are you enjoying the cave?
Don't be mad. Explore. We sent u to the cave for a reason!
..I..I..I will bring dirty mud from this cave in jar to bath u in it

U bumbum
If u can find me. But I can find u. In the Chixulub Crater

I know u always near me


🤮
You cannot win, crater person






















