off-topic

[boreal hedge]

600 is enough instant ramen for a loong time

[zealous narwhal]

right

[zealous narwhal]

actually you can get this gun for that money lol

[boreal hedge]

You're telling me to become a shooter?

You said it...not me

[zealous narwhal]

I mean, maybe @sly ember want do a little bussines

[sly ember]

Like whaling on Toram Online?

[zealous narwhal]

not really bad I thing

[sly ember]

Oh Nopnop you delusional little cat you

[zealous narwhal]

bruh, I really spend around $35 only for dumb deer costume on toram online

[sly ember]

And what else

[zealous narwhal]

$35 deer costume go brrrrrr

[sly ember]

Also why a dumb deer costume

[sly ember]

That is...huh??? Wha???

[vernal gate]

An amazing outfit if I do say so.

[sly ember]

https://tenor.com/view/smash-bros-yoshi-hammer-hit-smash-gif-16289952

[zealous narwhal]

[sly ember]

Deer hunting

[zealous narwhal]

https://tenor.com/view/my-deer-friend-nokotan-koshi-torako-you-deer-you-died-gif-11808506870651215818

[zealous narwhal]

and yea, I have patric costume too, and I'm using it on the dev stream

[sly ember]

HA!

[zealous narwhal]

https://tenor.com/view/patrick-star-rock-long-legs-spongebob-spinning-gif-15932840

[sly ember]

What in the PS2 are those graphics dude

[zealous narwhal]

bruh this is 2015 game

[sly ember]

Unacceptaburu

[zealous narwhal]

the first series of this game is 2008

it's really old, and you still can found it on the playstore

[sly ember]

I will antagonise you and Shin until this game has modern graphics

[zealous narwhal]

I love classic mmorpg

[sly ember]

[zealous narwhal]

I feel like, toram online is still the best char build custom on the mmorpg mobile until now

[boreal hedge]

Seeing you outside the technical support area is.. odd

I do welcome the change, however

[sly ember]

https://tenor.com/view/look-at-this-wow-looking-look-are-you-serious-gif-16733456

[zealous narwhal]

in toram only we can use "math" to make own stat equipment

[sly ember]

Debatable, but it's definitely decent

[sly ember]

Ewwwwww tf

[vernal gate]

Indeed, I do peek outside of there from time to time. Most of the time only responding to the technical stuff. That deer was simply too epic to pass up commenting-

[sly ember]

Now I know why you're called crashdump

[zealous narwhal]

should be like this

[boreal hedge]

What an absolute legend

On that note: based pfp, keep cooking

[sly ember]

If I wanted maths, I'd play PoE

[boreal hedge]

Imagine not getting a break bc ppl skill issue with their own equipment

[vernal gate]

I just happen to look at (cough) alot of crashdumps. Usually daily.

[sly ember]

Gorlock too

[boreal hedge]

PFFTTT

Jesus..

💀

[zealous narwhal]

actually on the toram online, we still have this one

[sly ember]

Skill Issue Simulator

Toxic minmaxing yes yes

[boreal hedge]

Nah that's the technical help area

[sly ember]

But nah look I'm just taking the piss

Game's probably fun

[boreal hedge]

Probably

[sly ember]

Definitely not my kinda thing tho

[zealous narwhal]

there're too much skill tree you can combine btw

[boreal hedge]

What the hell

I think I could solve a rubix cube faster than learning all that

[sly ember]

Path Of Exile's Atlas skill tree

The Scion's own personal skill tree in particular

[zealous narwhal]

actually dont forget, every tree of this game have sub skill tree too

[sly ember]

So it's just like PoE

[zealous narwhal]

[boreal hedge]

Cat trolling

[zealous narwhal]

actually just choose
your main job > combine it with other job skill > use several buff skill > use cool useless skill (optional)

[sly ember]

Just like PoE

[zealous narwhal]

imagine take a useless expensive skill just bcs it's cool skill

[sly ember]

You can have your Templar be a mixed Strength/Intellect build going for a Paladin role (shielder/healer + spellcaster/melee)

[sly ember]

I mean wouldn't you???

If it looks cool

[zealous narwhal]

why not?

[zealous narwhal]

[sly ember]

Is Hit your accuracy stat? You poor thing...

[zealous narwhal]

VIT for very high HP, DEF, Magic DEF,
MTL for 100% ailment resist

[sly ember]

Yes but do your attacks hit?

[zealous narwhal]

fuck it, I'm a tank

[sly ember]

[zealous narwhal]

and my dps too

[sly ember]

Why is your ASPD so high then?

[sly ember]

That Hit...

[zealous narwhal]

very high aspd, it's my own build

[vernal gate]

Kirito mode-

[zealous narwhal]

small damage with very high aspd

[sly ember]

[sly ember]

With little accuracy

[ember roost]

https://youtu.be/856ojEuZkpE?si=kxc_GGl8dtceJo_A

[vernal gate]

Or should I say Saki?

[sly ember]

https://tenor.com/view/saki-fuwa-faint-dies-from-cringe-tof-tower-of-fantasy-gif-27484297

[zealous narwhal]

actually it's not really usefull btw

atleast on the early game

[sly ember]

Wait...you're in early game???

[zealous narwhal]

I have 100% crit rate, 100% penetration, 10k+ aspd, and several buff

[vernal gate]

With the context of an attack speed tank, the deer outfit is even more appropriate.

[zealous narwhal]

true

[sly ember]

Idk Nopnop

Sounds pretty sus

[boreal hedge]

But it's not even Christmas season :(

[vernal gate]

It's more just about being out of place and standing out as a tank, just like running around with a horse-head on.

[zealous narwhal]

actually "hit" stat, will make your attack not become graze or miss, but with 100%+ crit rate your attack will always critical

[boreal hedge]

Granted, it does make you stick out

[zealous narwhal]

but on the end-game boss, they will have crazy stat and debuff, like critical resist, some debuff

[boreal hedge]

Nopnop wheling

I thought you're a cat not a whel

[sly ember]

That Crit Resist to you is like how Radagon in Elden Ring is immune to bleed

[zealous narwhal]

bruh, on the High Difficult boss event, the boss almost have everything 💀

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eA42ci8bJWg

when fighting P-avatar, she has 3 phases, in the first phase the team must deal as much damage as possible before P-avatar uses the knockback skill on the entire team, in the 2nd phase P-avatar will summon 2 mini bosses, when we has defeated 2 miniboss, p avatar will enter rage mode and attack blindly.

[sly ember]

Toram EOS

[zealous narwhal]

on the last phase, she absolutely will have every debuff immune

[zealous narwhal]

yea

I already read that word several time

[zealous narwhal]

btw, p avatar is absolutely have sick boss fight, she can use 3 player's tree skills

[sly ember]

Report her for hacks

[zealous narwhal]

she's secret boss btw

[boreal hedge]

Report her anyway?

[sly ember]

Report her for secrecy

[zealous narwhal]

https://tenor.com/view/just-dodge-toram-online-gif-26488032

[boreal hedge]

Hiding government secrets behind her back

[zealous narwhal]

actually my tank, is p avatar cosplay

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cat-tongue-cat-licking-white-cat-cursed-cat-gif-27575167

[boreal hedge]

This gif is MAD zesty

[zealous narwhal]

I love p avatar

[boreal hedge]

You tweaking

Deadass looking like this when P avatar

Thoughout Toram and back

You alone are the simping one

[zealous narwhal]

old npc, has a curse to always remain alone, she is trapped in another dimensional rift alone, occasionally she will appear and will help players

[boreal hedge]

Just marry her?

Lol?

Curse broken

[boreal hedge]

Bro giving me depression

[zealous narwhal]

she's always in the dark

[boreal hedge]

So you can't marry her because she'll disappear?

...damn

[zealous narwhal]

the way to meet her also needs a ritual, you have to fall from the coloseum, then instead of returning to the city you will be stranded in a dark place.

[sly ember]

I wonder how Nopnop would be like in Sekiro

[zealous narwhal]

The P avatar is in the center of the loading screen of the colosseum and the city.

[boreal hedge]

SHURA ENDING🗣️💯🔥

[zealous narwhal]

[boreal hedge]

P avatar lore is very sad

[zealous narwhal]

she only appeared in January, along with the High Difficult Boss event.

[boreal hedge]

:(

Not fair

Let's terrorize the developers until she gets a fren

[sly ember]

https://tenor.com/view/cj-sekiro-gif-23480678

[zealous narwhal]

and interestingly, when fighting p avatar, there will be a witch who will help her as a miniboss.

mama zoe

[boreal hedge]

Ironically, I never did the Shura ending because of my hatred for Owl

[zealous narwhal]

mother with 1 child

[boreal hedge]

Fren

[sly ember]

I couldn't bring myself to side against Emma and Kuro, bro. I just can't

[boreal hedge]

Nah fuck Owl

Worst dad ever

[sly ember]

I'm gonna need several bottles of Jack's if I wanna make it through that playthrough. Just so I can play it off as a bad dream

[boreal hedge]

Nah, being used by Owl is worse

With the Kuro ending, you at least get laid

Maybe

Big maybe

[sly ember]

[boreal hedge]

Don't tell me we're not bagging the girl

[lapis radish]

the more i watch this

the more i convince its the biggest money launder scheme

tax write off and all that

[boreal hedge]

Every souls game had us bagging someone

Hell, even Bloodborne has an ending where you bag the doll

No way Sekiro is the odd one out

[maiden tundra]

might be ngl

aint no way they thought anyone would like this

I hope it bores me to sleep again

[sly ember]

Does Tian bore you to sleep?

[boreal hedge]

Sure does the job for me

Feeling tired already

Just thinking about him

[boreal hedge]

Talk about Tian
From birth to twink marriage

I need material to sleep to

[zealous narwhal]

prooo

I will wait car on the next patch

[wanton turtle]

[sly ember]

Ewwwwww Estelle plays HSR?

Always knew you were a fake

[hot kraken]

[zealous narwhal]

obsesive gf

@marble lion

[marble lion]

hot

[sly ember]

Cat what kinda weird weeb stuff u posting now?

[sly ember]

Ban your fellow mod, friend

[sly ember]

[zealous narwhal]

see my face

[sly ember]

Do a face reveal for us

[zealous narwhal]

@sly ember actually it's good manga btw

[lapis radish]

no u

[sly ember]

[sly ember]

Ban this guy too

[lapis radish]

and you

for reckless driving

[sly ember]

I'm pure as fk yo

[lapis radish]

shit driver

[sly ember]

Ain't got nothin on me

[lapis radish]

[sly ember]

Cope for me

[zealous narwhal]

[sly ember]

WILL SMITH FIGHTING WOMEN??!

[zealous narwhal]

she's will's osasanajimi

https://tenor.com/view/tsue-to-tsurugi-no-wistoria-wistoria-wand-and-sword-qazira-elfaria-albis-serfort-wistorias-wand-and-sword-gif-6739230165034397203

[sly ember]

What is this weeb thing you speak of, friend?

[sly ember]

Ooo

Pretty

[zealous narwhal]

and obsesive girl

[sly ember]

Even better

[zealous narwhal]

imagine, she's trying to claim will from other magia vender

she's doing death battle

[sly ember]

Ooo Dark Souls

[zealous narwhal]

in the end, she lose with........

[sly ember]

What kinda Borderlands tabletop strategy game stuff is this

[lapis radish]

i mean we read article that stated some tv series cost like 200 mil to made and other

[zealous narwhal]

At first she was fighting in a deathmatch with another magia vender, then she was interrupted by her superiors, and her superiors told her to immediately finish it with rock paper scissors.

and yea, she lose

[lapis radish]

though i srsl doubt these number but assume they right

somehow the series Flop super hard

[zealous narwhal]

[lapis radish]

now they gonna lost money ?

assume there normal person test watch that tv series

and said its bad

but they still green light to release it on tv series

now its flop as predict

what exactly did they gain here

[sly ember]

What even the fuck

[lapis radish]

unless its a giant money launder scheme that the IRS let them off

[lapis radish]

'RICH " storyline

"Story driven science fiction"

[sly ember]

Hoyo simps coping harder than a ToFer on a WWL

[lapis radish]

look at the Star rail

"COMPLEX SYSTEM"

[sly ember]

3 buttons

[zealous narwhal]

@marble lion another obsesive gf

[lapis radish]

@sly ember do these people even play other rpg game

[zealous narwhal]

[sly ember]

[lapis radish]

"AMAZING WORLD DESIGN" said no one

[zealous narwhal]

cogs?

[sly ember]

I don't think they even play anything

[zealous narwhal]

[sly ember]

To pay off the obsessive woman

Trust me, it'll work

[zealous narwhal]

[sly ember]

"This is the power of Ascension Network. Under-OH MY GOD, COGS"
-Luna

[lapis radish]

'Hack and slash with rogue lite element "

who made this image

"Combo heavy combat" ???

[sly ember]

If that's what they call hack and slash, they've been on copium life support since birth

[sly ember]

Idk, my friend found it on Twitter

[lapis radish]

ah ok

[zealous narwhal]

Now for some reason, I don't really like hoyo games, there's just something strange about them.

[lapis radish]

typical twitter user

[lapis radish]

i thought its from reddit ngl

[sly ember]

There really is. I just can't put my finger on what

[lapis radish]

aka r/gachagaming

[sly ember]

Hoyo Reddit should be avoided at all costs

[zealous narwhal]

I've been playing HI3 for 7 years, the story change from part 1 to part 2 feels very strange, like it's out of the original concept of “fighting honkai”.

[lapis radish]

lot can happen in 7 year

change of writer , etc

[zealous narwhal]

In part 2, they fought aliens, it even just felt like opening and closing plot holes every chapter.

[zealous narwhal]

in part 1, it's still same

[sly ember]

I think a lot of their games lose their soul after a while

[zealous narwhal]

after that, the story writer move to HSR

Part 1 also ended hastily, by creating a plot armor, which makes no sense on the story.

[lapis radish]

Hoyo really dislike the idea of take care of their own game huh

[lapis radish]

them

and discord

with Facebook

AND TIKTOK

[zealous narwhal]

for genshin, I only played until the end of inazuma, I really disliked the reward part and the community was very toxic.

[lapis radish]

the first thing i do on hoyo game its look for the cheat

[lapis radish]

but you gotta to admit

[zealous narwhal]

I can't comment much on gameplay and stuff because I'm not playing right now.

[lapis radish]

its really funny

3 year

3 roll

no free 5 star even

then after 5 version

[zealous narwhal]

back when ToF was still not released, I often got terror from GI players

[lapis radish]

finally a free 5 star

[zealous narwhal]

with no reason

[lapis radish]

but with outdated unit

[lapis radish]

oh i understand

i mean they literally make an artist ban everyone from my nation access her twitter account to see her art

all that because she make her own headcannon story and pass it as story

called it Fake fact and other

[zealous narwhal]

I myself until now do not understand, why GI players often denigrate other gacha games, even in extreme cases there used to be those who DMed me and insulted me.

[lapis radish]

i wanna experience that

no one DM me

[lament prairie]

im really glad tof does reruns at a decent rate

eula and now shenhe taking 500+ days to rerun is just taking the mickey

then there's hsr not having any skins over a year in etc i dont get a lot of what they do

like the stuff is solid but they dont really innovate enough even when you dont consider the fact they have practically unlimited funding to do stuff with

wheres it all going

[lapis radish]

oh its the same lame gameplay loop from genshin all over again

get new unit

farm material

upgrade it

get artifact

use it in Endgame content

unit cant compete

get new one

rinse and repeat

[lament prairie]

material grinding in hsr/gi is such a pain that it puts me off pulling new characters a lot

[lapis radish]

wait they havent rerun ?

[lament prairie]

well eula did after 500 ish days

shenhe is 500 days and counting atm

[lapis radish]

jesus i thought they would improve by now

[lament prairie]

yeah they even added new banner types that they said were for fixing this kind of thing only to not actually add stuff

[lapis radish]

i predict they would increase like 4 banner at once consider how many character there are

[lament prairie]

geo and phys have been left dead in a ditch too really

[lapis radish]

let me guess , flame and frost still top ?

[lament prairie]

standard doesnt have a geo character, and even got worse after launch

they added a dendro when that was new element which yeah fine, expected

and one 3* character that made the entire pool worse on average

[lapis radish]

by now i think they all be outdated

[lament prairie]

mona c1 has been bugged since launch

they never fixed it

[lapis radish]

ah typical hoyo game behavior

[zealous narwhal]

@rocky tangle wake up dude

should I get her

[lapis radish]

lose

50/50

[zealous narwhal]

it always 100% for me

[lapis radish]

aint this time

[lament prairie]

for a skin called neon that has an awful lack of color

[lament prairie]

gimme your luck

hand it over

[zealous narwhal]

my team will become very random then, imagine:
DPS: fish
Tank: Idol
Support: miko

[zealous narwhal]

actually I'm using the power of money

[lament prairie]

[lapis radish]

Fake tofer

diabolic kill tof and everyone

spread the whale virus

[zealous narwhal]

lemme show you my T-pose

[lapis radish]

actually hold on

did they all really bash on this

[magic wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/bait-clickbait-thats-bait-gif-13073851

[marble lion]

sauce?

[zealous narwhal]

wistoria

[rocky tangle]

U whel
U will swipe regardless

[zealous narwhal]

but I nees SS3 wata and SS0 qu

can I?

[rocky tangle]

U gonna SS3 Wata?

Damn

[zealous narwhal]

I can if I skip this coating

[rocky tangle]

Its cosmetics anyways

And there is a rerun in future anyways

[zealous narwhal]

when?

not this patch right?

[rocky tangle]

Yes

[zealous narwhal]

a year again

[magic wharf]

[boreal hedge]

[gentle grove]

[pine thorn]

[zealous narwhal]

@rocky tangle @sly ember God RNG in my side...... 7k bc only

[sly ember]

Whel

Karma shall correct itself in Toram

Lest ye spend more

[zealous narwhal]

SS3 wata I'm comming

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1167417100592226335/1276237443372421120/ZRKR88CH1QE5NH537R.gif

[sly ember]

Big whel

Y no whel in ToF eh?

Fake ToFer

@gentle grove your colleague here is mad unfaithful

But nah legit Karenina goated

[sly ember]

Love her vibes

[sly ember]

[zealous narwhal]

https://tenor.com/view/karenina-punishing-gray-raven-pgr-gif-6037427162110078341

fish - idol - miko

[lapis radish]

shit game

shit company

[sly ember]

Tsundere GF vibes. Could a man ask for more?

[sly ember]

How badly did you whale on the tuna?

[lapis radish]

what breakthrough ?

[rocky tangle]

Rip usb

[zealous narwhal]

I still have 1

and on the wata patch, I should be have 2

[rocky tangle]

@zealous narwhal SSS Whel beaten

[zealous narwhal]

@rocky tangle next coating I will buy

[rocky tangle]

Ok whel

[rocky tangle]

@zealous narwhal

Couldve 2mil btw
But got staggered

[zealous narwhal]

1.7-1.8 is enough for me

@rocky tangle

[rocky tangle]

Show me ur score

[zealous narwhal]

better you dont know it

I will buy this coating

[sly ember]

Whel chat

[pine thorn]

man

[boreal hedge]

Ban whels for...wheling

If they don't whel, we eos

And eos means no Minty

A sacrifice I'm willing to make

[maiden tundra]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/479883126974447617/1277323560880443434/GVtegMWWkAA1Cud.png?ex=66ccbfc4&is=66cb6e44&hm=b6ae8a098c785d24016bc0aca79efbfdf6485b212a1ce48724e542952e205486&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=555&height=508

sry el*en ring fans, hoyo gayming is where its at

[maiden tundra]

wtf copying that design asap

[boreal hedge]

:(

[maiden tundra]

why is no one getting angy

yall fake gamers

[magic wharf]

cuz it's technically true

[lapis radish]

See how they disrespect armored core 5

[lapis radish]

Plenty wrong

Rich storyline

Real questionable

Amazing world design ??? Have you play open world game ever ?

Complex system = ????????????

Look @sly ember

Finally representation of disability person IN COMBAT

[magic wharf]

yes, and Gi open world is way better than 99% of open world games, cuz it's not entirely useless
i know zelda fans can jump on me if i say that, but... GI open world is way better than botw

[boreal hedge]

Because you haven't talked shit about a game I really care abt

[magic wharf]

i actually can count good open world games in one hand

[maiden tundra]

[magic wharf]

and no, there's no botw or even totk

[maiden tundra]

what do you like

[lapis radish]

Gta

[maiden tundra]

idk
most of the stuff I play are rpgs

oh

[lapis radish]

Prob far cry

And the watch dog

Not 3 and 2

Idc 2 is shit

[pine thorn]

wow much gayming so gaymer

[maiden tundra]

the gayming the toffening

[lapis radish]

I pirated a lot of game ok

[maiden tundra]

I used to pirate more when I was smol but these days I buy

[boreal hedge]

I like funneh game where the only devastating thing is the height difference

[maiden tundra]

unless it's a singleplayer game with anticheat or some dumbass shit

[boreal hedge]

Oh and Ultrakill is cool too

[rocky tangle]

"Hsr"
"Complex systems"
Mfw

[lime epoch]

Ew genshin boot lickin

[lapis radish]

Prove they never play anything else

[rocky tangle]

Also
Aether being Errand boi sure is rich storyline

[magic wharf]

not sure about what complex systems they're talking about either

[maiden tundra]

[maiden tundra]

it's complex for a baby

[magic wharf]

reading issue

[maiden tundra]

average genshiner thinks their puzzles are too hard which is why they keep getting simplified

[rocky tangle]

As a pokemon player
It feels insulting to my iq

Keep in mind
Pokemon is rated 3+ or smth
Hsr 12+

[maiden tundra]

grr... must solve simple digit arithmetic problems...

[lime epoch]

I saw much better storylines in ff9

[rocky tangle]

Hsr copies 2 puzzles from pokemon & made it easier

[maiden tundra]

you're comparing one of the best games of all time to a mid cash grab mobile game

pls

[magic wharf]

not rly, puzzles have always been easy

[maiden tundra]

which
idk dont play hsr

just wanted to make ppl madge but no elden ring fanboys jumped

||yet||

[lapis radish]

Its not even a puzzle at this point

Its annoying obstacle

[maiden tundra]

well
genshin story better than dustborn

btw did u finish it
I got bored 8 hours in

[lapis radish]

Oh you have to complet this and that side quest to unlock this item which can be use to solve this puzzle

[maiden tundra]

(more)
can't go back to it

[lapis radish]

For total 10 rock

[lapis radish]

Not yet

9.5 hour in

[magic wharf]

cuz it is, as they say, roll slop... technically
btw, elden ring's open world is one of the best

[maiden tundra]

bruh

[lapis radish]

I working as i listen to that shit game

[maiden tundra]

they spent 2 hours in game playing arcades

out of 17

[lapis radish]

Sometime i have to go check to see did they really said that ?

[rocky tangle]

This gym puzzle is in herta's space station but easier & no punishments if you do smth wrong

[maiden tundra]

more than 10% of the game is spent watching unlikeable characters with severe skill issue play basic games while shouting cringe one lliners

[rocky tangle]

Also the strength boulder puzzle

[lapis radish]

I convince they just escape insain convict from asylum

[maiden tundra]

wait,,,,,,, unironically that might also describe genshin

[lapis radish]

Cause no way normal people would talk like that

[rocky tangle]

Hoyo copies Nintendo tbh

[maiden tundra]

no but I genuinely like genshin story I just think it's told poorly half the time

[lapis radish]

We know

[maiden tundra]

no no we talking about dustborn
game where you defeat police by yelling at them that they're racist

[lapis radish]

But hoyo fan be like we just take inspiration

[maiden tundra]

[lapis radish]

Actually more like convince them kill themself

Way more worse than you thought

[maiden tundra]

idk what part you're refering to tbh
never saw that

where did that happen

[lapis radish]

The diner scene

[rocky tangle]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1089948855258317012/1180012643151515679/RDT_20231127_1004454760656648699462320.jpg?ex=66ccb6a9&is=66cb6529&hm=550e206514b76b682f179498c067d9feee32d9e9f9634e0be2d83d924df5ef42&
Right

[maiden tundra]

but they didn't tell the guys to kill themselves, just convinced them they were on fire or smth

nobody died

[lapis radish]

Where the 2 cop ask about person stufff

[maiden tundra]

oh
no, that was the cop talking to the mc

[magic wharf]

it's fine tho?

[lapis radish]

Then you can convince the 2 cop shoot each other

[maiden tundra]

idk, didn't see that

I believe you tho

[lapis radish]

Would been fine if the reward worth all the trouble

[maiden tundra]

normal reaction to someone being mildly rude

[lapis radish]

10 rock for entire thing

[rocky tangle]

What admin cooking
https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1093913007505018980.webp?size=64

[magic wharf]

oh, yes, botw with it's +3 arrows after climbing and fighting for an hour, or a weapon that will break after slapping 10 mobs with it

[maiden tundra]

mods don't play the game tho, do u know how discord works...

[lapis radish]

https://youtu.be/T0P0eCJrrGU

At 12 min mark

You literally convince 2 of them shoot each other

[magic wharf]

ew, stop, this game doesn't exist

[lapis radish]

The thing is

Its SO BAD that Interesting

[maiden tundra]

oh holy shit

[lapis radish]

You would think an AI wrote this

[maiden tundra]

yeah definitely didn't happen to me

[lapis radish]

But nope

[maiden tundra]

nah nah ai couldn't possibly make this
unless you train it exclusively off twitter idk

[magic wharf]

oh, actually, i just realized, this game is just one big twitter npc's power fantasy

[lapis radish]

Here another

https://youtu.be/I0Bvw-ZzL20

At 7 hour 32 min

They didnt even bother to check audio

[maiden tundra]

I think it was made by chronically online ppl

[magic wharf]

it is

[maiden tundra]

like the writers are that guy that thinks he's funny because he's constantly spouting out memes irl but he's actually not and everyone hates him

but he lacks the self awareness to realize when ppl subtly tell him to fuck off

and/or hasn't talked to a real person in months

[lime epoch]

Main character syndrome???

[maiden tundra]

like irl if you meet ppl like this you run away from them

I think anyone
they'd all get bullied here

[magic wharf]

yep

[lime epoch]

Ew how embarrassing tbh

[maiden tundra]

the funniest part is they're all 30+

[lapis radish]

Also there funny line in 1 hour mark

Vaccine are mind control device

And no im not making that up

[maiden tundra]

ah yes

wouldn't surprise me if the people who made this were into alt medicine

[lime epoch]

Why would anyone use memespeak in every part of convo 🤢

[maiden tundra]

at all
wear anti 5g bracelets, think fluoride in water makes them stupid

[magic wharf]

any cringe twitter bullshit you can think of, probably appeared in this game at least once

[maiden tundra]

cuz they don't interact with anyone outside of the internet

unironically
only kind of people I'd see thinking any of this is good

[lime epoch]

I heard there’s a difference between alt and holistic what is alt medicine really?

[maiden tundra]

a scam for scientifically illiterate ppl

[lapis radish]

Eh eh eh

[magic wharf]

magic rocks

[maiden tundra]

essential oils cure autism kind of shit

mind you I don't think conventional medicine is flawless (far from it) or that 100% of holistic methods are useless, but it's a rabbit hole that's very easy to sink into

[boreal hedge]

OIL!?

[lime epoch]

Ah I see never quite understood that for complex medicine stones are a more spiritual emotional thing or for minor things like luck or more chance of money received

[boreal hedge]

WHERE!?

[maiden tundra]

there's a reason why it's plagued with anti vaxxers and conspiracy theorists and the like

[pine thorn]

skylers gym back in gen 5 used to run me up a wall back in the day

[rocky tangle]

Skyla u mean?

[pine thorn]

yes

[magic wharf]

One of the devs in an interview said they made this game as a response to Donald Trump winning the 2016 election.
all you need to know to understand why dustborn is so bad

[maiden tundra]

forgor about skyla

[boreal hedge]

You make it sound like you're not part of those

[magic wharf]

it's not even game with inserted politics, it's a game made by it

[rocky tangle]

And both gym designs were 1
1 we murdered ourself with becoming real human fodder for canons
& in the other we had to worry bout a tornado wind

[maiden tundra]

also I heard new gens have babified gyms as well
didn't play 8 or 9 so idk

[boreal hedge]

New gens are too easy, yes

[rocky tangle]

I dont play switch era pokemon asidee from mystery dungeon dx
Cuz game freak cant cook anymore

I let fans do the cooking now

[maiden tundra]

I'm being unironic rn
conspiracy theories are fun as a meme but if you actually think vaccines make kids autistic, get help

[lapis radish]

I convince its just another money launder scheme

[maiden tundra]

yeahh
same
saw the games going downhill and dropped

[lapis radish]

But legit version

[maiden tundra]

even though gen 9 made bank I do think the criticism got to them tho
no gen 10 in sight

[lapis radish]

Oh you dont

[magic wharf]

nah, it's legit response to trump 2016 election

[lapis radish]

You get tired from eating it everyday

[boreal hedge]

Dw, I'm merely jesting

Your tian cope is like a conspiracy theory sometimes

I don't actually think you're an antivaxxer or something

[lime epoch]

https://tenor.com/view/amsoil-oil-0w20-amsoil-xl-gif-24355277

[maiden tundra]

hopefully they're taking their time
make the game run at more than 5 fps, puzzles are marginally harder than genshin, no forced xp, etc

[lapis radish]

Ironic ,i prefer watch pokemon speed run

Oh you will

[rocky tangle]

Gen9 made bank sure
But the game is horrible & it is 10% lag

[maiden tundra]

yeah
if they didn't care at all we'd have gen 10 already which would've told a ton as well

[rocky tangle]

https://youtu.be/M6NFiSn3M9o?si=e80YKHS9z9XqV175 @maiden tundra

[maiden tundra]

but because of how poorly the game got received outside of the monetary aspect I'd like to think they're working on giving something actually good

again

[boreal hedge]

Are we talking the easy kind...?
Or the actually difficult kind?

[mossy void]

https://fixvx.com/HD_Kirin/status/1827705283055063057

[rocky tangle]

I like Werster going insane

[maiden tundra]

gen 4 difficulty is fine imo

6 onwards was a joke

[magic wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/clueless-aware-twitch-forsen-emote-gif-25354609

[lapis radish]

Its interesting though

Like how tf did they even figure out the strat and stuff

[rocky tangle]

https://youtu.be/rNsvP2CKU20?si=gPSOSzdiMeZBGvLB

[lapis radish]

Even rng and everything

[rocky tangle]

Mfer said Fck u to a shiny

[boreal hedge]

Remembering the Deoxis puzzle rn

Pain

[maiden tundra]

cynthia tier champions

[rocky tangle]

They do dummy runs
Check optimal routes & xp management & risk calcs

[rocky tangle]

Sky pillar bike puzzle on Phone emu is a whole new difficulty

[boreal hedge]

Hot take: Cynthia wasn't that hard if you just overleveled

[lapis radish]

I prob wouldnt suprise if there a strat for lvl 1 pokemon that kill high lvl pokemon

[rocky tangle]

Their are many of them

[pine thorn]

it was the tornados

made young me close the game for the day

[maiden tundra]

not a hot take, literally nothing is hard if you overlevel

[maiden tundra]

yes

[rocky tangle]

Try Pokemon Unbound:
U level capped there

[rocky tangle]

Safest Unbound victory

[lapis radish]

https://youtu.be/hVZFpjHjX9w

I know they use glitch but the fact they even figure out how to trigger it and use it

[rocky tangle]

U are unbound tbh
U can catch 809 pokemons without need to trade
U can complete pokedex as a friendless loser now
https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/641499941092589581.webp?size=64

[boreal hedge]

Nah I still heard many ppl complaining

[rocky tangle]

Glitch runs have a category
Its not banned
Its just using the games mechanics in intended but legal ways

[rocky tangle]

Cynthia is hard as a child
Not grown up

[boreal hedge]

Yeah

That's true

[lapis radish]

Although its feel more like a chore

[maiden tundra]

yes

[lapis radish]

Rather than puzzle fun game

[rocky tangle]

https://youtu.be/7UI1hbv3k3I?si=-sX1_5txBHL6Lohl i like the explanation vid of it

Bro just won a lotto

Speedrun reactions are fun to watch
Not fun to play
I prefer my games at my phase

[lapis radish]

I respect them , spent like thousand of hour to master strat and find new one

To the mili second

[rocky tangle]

Speedrunners did bring mechanics to the table

I dunno elding ring speedrun sadly

But pokemon speedruns are fun to watch

[maiden tundra]

(genuinely) unpopular opinion but I never found watching streams fun
why watch someone play when I can do it myself

unless it's a game I'm never gonna play and/or don't wanna pay for

(like dustborn)

[lapis radish]

But still is

[rocky tangle]

https://youtu.be/u3fyeYHU7ns?si=LkShmM3GfY-00p1l

[lapis radish]

You still have to defeat the boss

And make your way to the end

With the fastest time possible

[maiden tundra]

same kinda
hate reaction videos but reviews are nice

[rocky tangle]

I watch vids of games i play when im in a position i cant game myself
AkA drinking coffee, eating, waiting on someone or etc.

Or when my phone need charge

[maiden tundra]

valid

[lapis radish]

Understandable but if they host game and you can participate in it , it might be fun enough

[maiden tundra]

that's also true

yeah, it's not like they're children franchises or anything

[lapis radish]

Though you should watch some hitless soul game run

There is people that play all soul game

[rocky tangle]

Pokemon romhacks / fangames are designed to adults
Theres pokemon showdown wich is mostly adult aimed

[lapis radish]

Fight all boss

[boreal hedge]

Sweet sarcasm

[lapis radish]

Without getting hit 1

Have 0 upgrade

Only starting gear

[maiden tundra]

play souls for the cringe "gameplay" ❌
play because of hot men ✅

[lapis radish]

Now watching pokemon anime , feel like us player prob can 1 shot every opponent

[rocky tangle]

Pokemon anime is cringe

[lapis radish]

Ik

[rocky tangle]

Power of friendship abooz & pikachu spam AF

[maiden tundra]

i liked it as a kid

[boreal hedge]

I play for the doll(s)

[rocky tangle]

Pokemon anime made me despice Pikachu alot

Cant stand dat fcker anymore

[lapis radish]

If they smart , they aim for the trainer not the pokemon

[maiden tundra]

yeah, almost like it's an all ages franchise

[maiden tundra]

cuz spongebob is based af

[boreal hedge]

SpongeBob isn't funny tho?

[rocky tangle]

Pokemon is a franchise not 1 game or 1 anime
Some parts of the franchise is aimed at kids
Some are aimed towards adults

[maiden tundra]

idk I never liked cartoons much even as a kid

[boreal hedge]

Not anymore at least

[lapis radish]

@rocky tangle have there ever anyone attempted to target the trainer instead of hitting the pokemon ?

[maiden tundra]

spongebob was one of the few ones

[lapis radish]

Anything better than tt go

[rocky tangle]

No?

[maiden tundra]

it was back when the og showrunner was there
once it left it got really weird and bad
apparently it's better now but meh

[boreal hedge]

They just turned it into "gross image haha"

[maiden tundra]

https://tenor.com/view/fortnite-squad-goodnight-goodbye-spongebob-gif-11371975284397007649

[rocky tangle]

Spongebob is a classic

[lapis radish]

Huh by now , i thought they would somehow get smarter and target the trainer

[boreal hedge]

That's what I heard too
The og stuff was great

[maiden tundra]

the showrunner was a marine biologist and wanted to educate children or smth

[lapis radish]

Eh anything better than teen titan go

[rocky tangle]

Oh wait
There are canon instances of pokemons targetting trainers
Like Lance's Dragonite hyper beaming a fcker in Gen2

[boreal hedge]

Normal behavior

[maiden tundra]

ghetsis was gonna kill u in gen 5

[lapis radish]

What happen then ?

[rocky tangle]

Oh ye & dat

[lapis radish]

Trainer die ?

[rocky tangle]

He just got pushed back hard

Cant say kill in Pokemon game yk

[boreal hedge]

Hisuian Zoroark is literally that turned pokemon

Thing's just hostile

[maiden tundra]

pokemon manga is apparently really dark tho

[rocky tangle]

Idk hisuian

[maiden tundra]

pokemon kill trainers

[lapis radish]

If only the villain smart enough

[maiden tundra]

or get killed

[rocky tangle]

Never read it
But i can atleast say dats tru

[rocky tangle]

Cyrus was
He aimed for gods

[maiden tundra]

i read the tvtropes page

[boreal hedge]

Short explanation: Wear mask or get turned into ground beef

[maiden tundra]

ghetsis was
actual goat

but it's a 3+ game so ykno

can't have magical animals ripping ppl apart

[rocky tangle]

Kyurem was 2 frames away from fristbiting mc to death

[maiden tundra]

you can philosophize about the ethics of caging creatures for entertainment purposes and the existentialism tho

[rocky tangle]

Oh wait
There was also marowak death in gen1

[maiden tundra]

'guys i think us caging magical creatures in balls and only letting them out to fight each other for fun is bad'

also gen 2 selling slowpoke tails

as snacks

to CHILDREN

[boreal hedge]

Yummers

[lapis radish]

Well i mean i cant be the only one wonder what would happen if we just target the trainer instead

[rocky tangle]

The most dark thing written in pokemon games are dex entries

[lapis radish]

PIKACHU USED DEATH LASER ON TRAINER

[maiden tundra]

no, you're not
and it has happened before

[lapis radish]

ITS WAS EFFECTIVE

ASH WIN

[rocky tangle]

Ash is a fraud

[maiden tundra]

but if we're gonna get realistic then you can't trap gods and magic animals into balls and mind control them into fighting each other for fun so

at some point you gotta compromise

[lapis radish]

I can let that point off

[rocky tangle]

Master ball is the ultimate ball yk

[maiden tundra]

imo N getting groomed into a puppet manchild is pretty up there as well but I'm gen 5 fangirl

[lapis radish]

Also there problem like why stand behind your pokemon if the enemy might or might not use a Giant heavy aoe attack that affect the trainer

[rocky tangle]

Honestly old games/tv stuff was dark but never directly said

[maiden tundra]

yeah
nintendo censorship

[rocky tangle]

Theres Fire nation in avatar murdering a entire culture

[lapis radish]

But since its Esport for legal murder i let the logic off the table

[maiden tundra]

one of my favorite games somehow got around having an evil church brainwashing ppl into worshipping a fake god when at the time you could barely say 'demon'

[maiden tundra]

yeah, it's logical inside the universe and that's what matters

[boreal hedge]

I've heard that plotline before...

[maiden tundra]

eh, there's ton of those these days

back then it was pretty scandalous tho

[boreal hedge]

Church bad

[maiden tundra]

kinda got away with it because the translation was so shit

ok ive been procrastinating too much mods pls ban if I talk again

[rocky tangle]

I will ping nopnop

[boreal hedge]

Bet

[sly ember]

Yeah, ban this fella for his Tianism

[pine thorn]

well if you insist

[pine thorn]

[sly ember]

The Kiri

Why do you stare at me like that

[pine thorn]

toby

[sly ember]

It is i

[pine thorn]

why did you divorce yan meow

[sly ember]

Tobyverse. Not divorce, merely a separate instance

The Phys main me is taking time off

[pine thorn]

[sly ember]

I'm glad you understand

[pine thorn]

that makes snese

[sly ember]

Fuck I wanna play Halo Reach, but Mirroria needs to be 100%'d

[pine thorn]

hrh

[sly ember]

Once it is, I can blitz the Aesperia storyline, catch up on Vera, then try and 100% Confounding Abyss

[sly ember]

Eh?

[pine thorn]

idk

i'm

confusisisidieleed

[sly ember]

[insert GIF of emo dude freaking out]

[pine thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/suicide-room-crazy-tweaking-out-tweaking-emo-gif-3186931578122094793

i feel

slumber

[sly ember]

Yes. Perfectly capturing the essence of what it means to be the Kiri

Sadly enough

[pine thorn]

i'm not a gay emo kid oding in a public bathroom

[sly ember]

I...didn't say you were, Kiri, why are you jumping to conclusions like this

[pine thorn]

thats the context of the gif

[sly ember]

I THOUGHT HE SPAZZED OUT COZ HE REMEMBERED AN EMBARRASSING CHASIER INTERACTION

DO YOU MEAN TO TELL ME THAT ISN'T TRUE

[pine thorn]

yeah no thats not what happened

he oded then spazzed out and died

[sly ember]

Then...what about the one I keep saying as "When the gout hits"?

[pine thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/emo-emo-kid-holding-back-meme-he-itchin-up-to-fye-emo-kid-clutching-emo-kid-gif-11947330188346210441

this one?

[sly ember]

Ye

[pine thorn]

a video of him kissing his bestfriend got spread online and he came to school with his fathers gun and was about to pull it out when some other children were laughing at him

[sly ember]

[pine thorn]

[sly ember]

Kiri why do you watch such things

Return to the guy screaming in the shower

[pine thorn]

boredom

[sly ember]

Not literally tho, that'd be weird

[pine thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/rage-quit-rage-suicide-room-angry-frustrated-gif-16937511460895297351

this is the most normal one

[sly ember]

Got that Linkin Park enjoyer haircut on point

[pine thorn]

this gif is him raging cuz he was losing at the game and got disconnected while playing with some friends

[pine thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/chester-bennington-linkin-park-smile-gif-11266773

[sly ember]

Rest in peace you fucking legend

[sly ember]

Certified skill issue

[pine thorn]

indeed

used to unironically listen to his music

i'm thinking of regetting a flip phone

[sly ember]

Bennington's voice was really nice. Filled the gap in the music that no instrument could. So it's understandable how hard his death affected the band's performance let alone those around him

[sly ember]

Hipster

[pine thorn]

[sly ember]

You is

[pine thorn]

yeah'

[pine thorn]

nuh uh

[sly ember]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-punch-gif-26310880

[pine thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/this-dude-bro-bruh-welcome-to-gamestop-tiktok-gif-21824756

[sly ember]

Monkey man

[pine thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/turbulence-gif-12431756390550423391

[sly ember]

Wtf he doin

[pine thorn]

you on't wanna know

[sly ember]

Perhence

[lime epoch]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-scared-back-away-close-door-gif-15554720

[pine thorn]

[maiden verge]

I miss Chester 😔

[sly ember]

Man was a GOAT

Such emotion in his delivery as well. Every line felt like it was personal

Call em edgy, bash their fans, but LP were passionate about this music

Can't deny that even my teenage years were bad. One Step Closer felt like an outburst I couldn't have but could vibe off

[maiden tundra]

finished

can procrastinate again

[sly ember]

Done with Tian?

Ready to come back into the light?

[maiden tundra]

idk ppl who hate on linkin park because it was trendy in 2010 sound like dustborn fans and/or latinxos

no was doing work

didnt finish 3 minutes before the deadline lesgoo

[sly ember]

And not ruminating on Tian? You're healing! Good good

[sly ember]

It's good music, honestly

[maiden tundra]

tian save me Strength

AND THE SHADOW OF THE DAY
WILL EMBRACE THE WORLD IN GRAY
AND THE SUN WILL SET FOR YOU

[sly ember]

I'd much rather hate on Lostprophets tbh. Their music felt eh at best, and the band got nicked for the p word. Yeah, that one

[sly ember]

[maiden tundra]

same as hating on simple plan
if u do holy shit who hurt u

[ember roost]

@sly ember

https://x.com/surasiuaudio/status/1827730064362045798

Sura Siu | ของขวัญ (@surasiuaudio) on X

What I look like VS what I sound like

Twitter · Aug 25, 2024, 3:29 PM

eng va

[sly ember]

Lucia's ENG VA?

Nice

[ember roost]

alpha and lucia

[sly ember]

Is it right say "Same thing" in this sense?

[maiden tundra]

@lapis radish apparently they stole assets

[ember roost]

https://youtu.be/J7W2wrIdyc0?si=Roz-Ts3a3mOLfFsb

https://x.com/DramaAlert/status/1827774733796139341

DramaAlert (@DramaAlert) on X

China’s Robots are INSANE 🤯🤖

Twitter · Aug 25, 2024, 6:27 PM

https://x.com/DBZcom/status/1827617672495788221

Dragon Ball Super (@DBZcom) on X

Twitter · Aug 25, 2024, 8:03 AM

[wise laurel]

@sly ember

wdym "not killed"

ive been cooked more times as rhino then id care to count

[sly ember]

Build for power strength, soak up damage in the 1 second of invincibility when you cast, it gets added to iron skin's health

[ember roost]

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.bilibilihk.jujutsuphanparagp

[sly ember]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=QBsA2ETp7JA

@wise laurel @boreal hedge @agile schooner probably what caused the biggest shift in my perception of what I believe in

Now don't get me wrong, I'm not hating on anything. Just as simple as "Hey, you know what? Maybe this ain't for me"

Just like how I decided uni isn't my thing

[wise laurel]

whats a uni

[boreal hedge]

University

Probably

[wise laurel]

oh

[wise laurel]

no problem

i have a different pov

but

free will

[sly ember]

And that's what makes these discussions so stimulating. Nothing is lost or gained in an echo chamber. It's differences, in people, in beliefs, in strengths, that causes you to think beyond what you called comfortable and explore

And that's why I love finding spaces like these where I can actually dare to step beyond what I've known

Nothing ventured, nothing gained

[wise laurel]

yeah yeah

personally, i think every choice you make matters

i think that following god is alot more simple then people make it

following god is just doing good while trusting and beleiving he'll help you spread the good more then you were capable of doing yourself

[sly ember]

Hundred. Fucking. Percent.

This is it, really

[wise laurel]

sometimes people mistake being like god for trying to be perfect

which isnt a good way to follow him

following god isnt about being perfect

[sly ember]

If Dharma in Hinduism is belief, which in my case is me and what lend me power

Then Karma, which is Dharma in motion, the act of applying faith to existence itself, is just me doing what I can for other people when I can

Has been anything from a simple "Hey man. You alright?" to comforting a friend after his mother passed away

[wise laurel]

because in the end, when your up there with him, he'll handle that whole shtick

[sly ember]

Doing good without costing yourself i.e. a limb, sanity, your house etc

[wise laurel]

following god is about doing good, even when its tough

and to look to him when it seems like "for what?"

because in the end, his reward is much greater then anything we can get on earth

[boreal hedge]

I'm not hating either

Again, I'm fascinated by religion itself and all that comes with it

But for the reason that not even 6 JD bottles and alcohol poisoning could make be believe in god

[wise laurel]

not then hes gonna make sure our life is hell before we can get to heaven

[wise laurel]

whats a jd bottle

[sly ember]

And that's what I find solace in. The way I believe in my gods are more like old friends. They'd be proud of me if I did good for the world when I can. Like a good parent would. Heck, ever since I saw them like that, I believed in them more than I do my own family, who by comparison are assholes

[sly ember]

Jack Daniels

Alcohol

[wise laurel]

oh

well theres a difference between genuine beleif and wanting a omnipresent scapegoat

for example

i had a relative that stopped beleiving in god after his mom passed from lung cancer

and he said he prayed and his mom prayed for her deliverence

and they blamed god for not saving her

[agile schooner]

i see i see

[boreal hedge]

I'll burn your hair lil bro

[wise laurel]

problem is, even after the cancer, she continued to smoke a whole pack of cigerrates per day

[sly ember]

Oh hell naw...

Yeah nah I fully get what you mean

[wise laurel]

god can heal you yes

but you gotta make way for him to do so

[boreal hedge]

When you don't learn...

[wise laurel]

you cant continue to do what got you into the situation and expect relief

because thats when people confuse genuine love for god with having a scapegoat

ha when i talk about god i type like a child

hopefully thats a good thing

[boreal hedge]

Depends

[sly ember]

Well, look, my grandpa passed away from Covid. I blamed my religion and a whole bunch of other things for weeks. "Why didn't you save him?" I asked. "Do my prayers mean nothing to you anymore?"

Eventually after I simmered down, I started questioning it all. I asked myself "If my until-then unwavering faith could be broken that quickly, then was it right for me to ever believe?"

Fast forward a year and some of the worst hardships in my life, and I wa basically an unofficial atheist. Believing in nothing, not even myself

Slowly yet surely I came back. I believed in the spirit of my grandpa watching over me. In myself and my own ability to carve a path through life, not by fine cuts, but by smashing through anything that got in my way. Be that unemployment, thoughts of self harm, or my folks just never understanding me

Which brings me to where I am now. Anything that has, can, and will lend me strength, is worthy of my belief. This includes me, some trinkets I keep close, the gods of my religion in the light that I see them in now, and my grandpa's memory

[boreal hedge]

Is it childlike innocence speaking when you talk about god?

If so, then yes

[sly ember]

And that, is literally the last 4 years of my life summed up

Honestly more has happened in these 4 years than the other 20 years I've been alive

[wise laurel]

before i say something, would you like to hear my opinion or no

[boreal hedge]

Atheism was about refuting the existence of god tho

Right?

[sly ember]

You've been valid so far and you're willing to hear me out. Go for it

[sly ember]

Which I did. It was a mix of that and nihilism. "No one exists, there's no god people up there watching over us, it's every man for themselves where nothing amounts to anything when we die"

[wise laurel]

well personally, when someone of age, or even someone super young gets taken by god, that often means that he no longer wants them to suffer in cruelities continually made by man