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#off-topic
sly ember
digital rose
but not videoz
sly ember
G, people. Not Jif
Anyone that says Jif is worthy of the highest form of death by cringe
gentle grove
digital rose
sorry for my ignorance I was only allowed a phone at 18
sly ember
Welcome to the internet
gentle grove
sly ember
Try not to get killed ๐
digital rose
before then I've never had or used one
digital rose
Try not to get killed ๐
๐how can I get killed thru a screen
sly ember
You've got a lot of catching up, then. Or...not?
digital rose
I know how to use whatsapp, Instagram, currently figuring out snapchat and discord is the most complex I downloaded it and just left it
I joined a few group chats for games I play tho
digital rose
Internet humour is like 80% sarcasm
are you serious
I never understand sarcasm even irl
sly ember
Discord is relatively insulated as long as you have control. Unlike, say, Facebook, where you're constantly shown pages and profiles you never knew you'd like (then probably end up hating)
On Discord, a lot of communities tend to be discoverable only via searching online (Google) or through links provided by people
So your exposure is very low as long as you keep your chatting within moderation
digital rose
sly ember
There's some vile, vile servers out there
gentle grove
sly ember
are you serious
I never understand sarcasm even irl
Suuuuure, buddy. Suuuuure 
That is sarcasm in the most literal form
gentle grove
sly ember
Internet humour is more like "Bruh, don't diss my waifu bruh I'll come over there and unplug ur WiFi fr"
digital rose
so its not literal?
gentle grove
ban Toby for helping people when 
digital rose
beyond assignment and whatsapp gc for uni I don't use this phone much
except on holidays
I started playing this really nice game called genshin impact
then I saw tower of fantasy
I thought they were similar but they both good
gentle grove
gacha games 
digital rose
what?
sly ember
ban Toby for helping people when <:PeepoHmm:956915795936555049>
OI WTF BRO I'M TOXIC AF
YOU CAN'T REMOVE MEEEEE
gentle grove
YOU CAN'T REMOVE MEEEEE
FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
sly ember
I started playing this really nice game called genshin impact
Bannable offence
Clara, ban him
Ggamer
Ggamer spotted
Jk jk
sly ember
I find the one in ToF to be a lot more forgiving
digital rose
I find the one in ToF to be a lot more forgiving
true I got 2 5* or ssr I think is wat they called in just a month as a new player
sly ember
Genshin = 5 star
ToF = SSR
digital rose
I've had genshin since I got my phone and only got 7
lament prairie
its a good game even if paimon gets on my nerves and it's stagnated quite a bit
solidly made
stingy but decent
sly ember
Such a slow game but very nice to look at. The music is also really nice
digital rose
its a good game even if paimon gets on my nerves and it's stagnated quite a bit
the start is a bit slow and why is sumeru story so damn long
sly ember
Like honestly, there's so much Genshin does better than ToF, then stuff that ToF does better than ToF
I just like both
sly ember
the start is a bit slow and why is sumeru story so damn long
It burned me out for 8 months now
So fkin long
lament prairie
yeah they try and do things quite a bit differently
digital rose
It burned me out for 8 months now
I've been trying to get it done since the beginning of the year
lament prairie
there's wuthering waves soon but idk if it does enough to stand out
jp stream restreamed by streamers that will try and translate will be on in 2h
digital rose
but like I have uni and stuff so I guess I shouldn't expect to get quests finished I 40mins I get to play
lament prairie
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4_hjrmm6MM if you want to see
digital rose
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4_hjrmm6MM if you want to see
what's this
lament prairie
will be a few months til we know if updates are decent or a wash ofc
lament prairie
what's this
game similar to genshin but not super similar to tof
its out in a few days
im still more interested in tof 4.0 especially as tof is stable and tries to shift things up each update unlike genshin
but given thats in 9 days
ww should keep me a bit occupied before then
maybe itll be decent maybe not
digital rose
I got into tof because of the event
lament prairie
will take a few months to see how they are on updates etc and if it'll stick around
digital rose
eveagalion
lament prairie
I got into tof because of the event
you seen the 4.X patch stuff?
next few maps look crazy good
digital rose
I want to finish the anime I watched the first season
lament prairie
4.0 is real nice
digital rose
it's on ps?
lament prairie
it's on ps?
uh this is tower of fantasy
if you're asking about wuthering waves it looks nothing like this
and while its on ps5 (4 not confirmed) it wont be at launch so expect at least a 6 month delay
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7sPKkDQPLQ0 this is wuthering waves
its interesting but theres a few red flags on stuff they really have to fix about launch
like the main grinding system
(and yes, thats a decent youtuber going over it didn't cherrypick, you can tell as they're literally on the OFFICIAL stream i linked above)
well the global version
they made a few small changes to it but idk if it'll be enough
making a similar artifact grinding system to genshin but making it 20x more rng was certainly a move
annnnnyhow
launch stream today then release in a few days
1.0 is small so if you play it will be mostly done by the time 4.0 tof is out
lament prairie
waaah
you get what i mean now?
like im playing it just keeping expectations low as it'll be a few months before we see if it sets itself apart from genshin enough and has ok content pace/patch currency etc
inner pilot
magic wharf
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PnNPC2huIsQ
did people rly thought that they gonna farm bis echos while it being the main gameplay loop, in two days?
nice joke
btw that 2 months old info on the video
lament prairie
did people rly thought that they gonna farm bis echos while it being the main ga...
i did say they made a few changes after
you can look those up
they kinda seem too small though
i dont get why they took the thing that caused the most burnout in gi and made it 20x more rng in the first place
but making only a few small changes to ''fix'' it
probably isnt enough
we'll know in a few days ofc
i mean hsr ive played a year
magic wharf
i did say they made a few changes after
yes, and one change literally made his whole problem with this system is irrelevant 
lament prairie
and my gear is still terrible
so i dont get why they went for an even worse system
lament prairie
yes, and one change literally made his whole problem with this system is irrelev...
not sure you really looked at their video
or the changes
anyhow launch stream is in an hour so if you're around can watch it early or wait for the global one like 14h later
but they do kinda have a bad habit of not marketing stuff properly and unlisting it after showing so you might have to chase up the footage
magic wharf
idk i'll probably forget and skip both
lament prairie
oh no wait the stream is in 3h
they're going live before the actual stream is up >.>
welp guess i just catch it late then
im up to date with the uh unofficial info anyhow but think there might be a few things yet to be seen maybe
well hoping so anyhow
proud python
I doubt that they will do some big reveal on the stream before launch
It just doesn't make sense no
lament prairie
I doubt that they will do some big reveal on the stream before launch
well... it kinda needs it?
there should be at least conformation if the stuff that got accidentally posted on the main site is the actual launch events or not
dissapointing if so but
i can hope
that there'll be more to reveal or maybe roadmap stuff
:X
lament prairie
yeah but just to be clear it was posted on the site, then removed, so not really a leak etc
magic wharf
well... it kinda needs it?
why?
magic wharf
a launch livestream with no new details is like a sandwich with no filling
it's just regular pre launch stream, some usual qna stuff, maybe codes
lament prairie
given how much stuff there is this year they really need to give at least some idea of what they have planned
magic wharf
not everything need to be grandiose and breathtaking 
lament prairie
it needs to stand out
genshin etc arent on 1.0 anymore
tof had a giant free release window to operate in
lament prairie
eh, all im saying is they need to give a few new details
and that if the stream has no new information it'd be dissapointing
i don't think im asking for a lot there
magic wharf
you asking for a stuff that usually done in devstreams
not every stream is dev stream
lament prairie
DEVSTREAM? DID SOMEONE SAY DEVSTREAM
pre launch livestream
bard is saying it doesnt matter
which i dont get
drowsy slate
who would have though about that
lament prairie
pre launch, launch itself and first few months make or break games usually
magic wharf
bard is saying it doesnt matter
why should it?
sly ember
INNODEMINEM 
lament prairie
i should try warframe again
gentle grove
lament prairie
havent played it in like two years
gentle grove
i should try warframe again
YES
lament prairie
i first played it during like first beta
magic wharf
bard is saying it doesnt matter
like, as i said, they probably just gonna play the game and answer questions
you know, usual pre launch/launch streams
lament prairie
like, as i said, they probably just gonna play the game and answer questions
you...
sly ember
I know what I'd want asked
"So can we cook?"
magic wharf
i first played it during like first beta
oh boy, you'll be surprised, and, probably confused as hell if you start now
game is nothing like in 2013
lament prairie
oh boy, you'll be surprised, and, probably confused as hell if you start now <:f...
well no as if you read the other sentence youd see i said i hadnt played it in 2 years ๐
main thing that put me off was how every warframe could become invinciblew
back in beta the game was actually hard
magic wharf
well no as if you read the other sentence youd see i said i hadnt played it in 2...
point still stands
i hadn't played for ~half a year and i was flabbergasted for couple of days after i returned
sly ember
i first played it during like first beta
The game is still technically in beta, which is the funniest part
lament prairie
The game is still technically in beta, which is the funniest part
railjack sure felt like that
๐
magic wharf
they literally changed the whole "meta" in that short amount of time, and they will do it again soon
lament prairie
given it went from stacking armor and crit
sly ember
THEY HALVED THE AMMO COUNT FOR KUVA BRAMMA
lament prairie
to shield gating and crit
lament prairie
im good at picking games that will do well
im less good at picking ones that dont pivot from why i started playing them too much :p
still might be worth poking my head back in to check on it
like i bought minecraft when it had less than 5000 ppl
but i also havent played it in a ridiculously long time
zealous narwhal
lament prairie
https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1167517536133324800.gif?size=96&quality=lossle...
get voided
magic wharf
to shield gating and crit
let me tell you one thing, probably none of your guns can do enough damage to clear a simple mission even on zariman rn
that's how it changed
zealous narwhal
https://tenor.com/view/neco-arc-neco-arc-throw-ceiling-gif-27104798
magic wharf
https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1167517536133324800.gif?size=96&quality=lossle...
how am i already have that gif 
proud python
given how much stuff there is this year they really need to give at least some i...
gateoo will translate cn wuwa livestream if you are interested
drowsy slate
how am i already have that gif <:lanhmm:1201109238081134632>
who knows
lament prairie
gateoo will translate cn wuwa livestream if you are interested <:miasus:10900001...
if im around at the time yeah
sly ember
A lot of experienced development staff are actually leaving the gaming industry
ember roost
rexlant will translate wuwa stream
lament prairie
rexlant will translate wuwa stream
i thought they were -on- the official stream
ember roost
i thought they were -on- the official stream
its recorded video so no worry
lament prairie
ah so no QnA etc?
shame i wanted to hear if they'd fixed echoes
its kinda a big deal
sly ember
Audio echo issues?
lament prairie
Audio echo issues?
no.. theres audio/lighting issues but those are probably fixed by now
echoes, the main grinding system of the game
sly ember
Oh god
lament prairie
its like gi artifact rng but 20x worse
lament prairie
What does it involve
they made some changes after this vid
but i dont think they go far enough
lament prairie
take a look at the changes they said theyd make too ofc but those and the
unreleased...stuff
still look like a big pain
lapis radish
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PnNPC2huIsQ&
will its gonna cost the Resin or whatever to farm it ?
lament prairie
will its gonna cost the Resin or whatever to farm it ?
if you're concerned about it just wait a few days for launch and see the full changes
but properly look them up
dont just take random cc's word on it
lapis radish
if you're concerned about it just wait a few days for launch and see the full ch...
then you see the speed i deleted the game
lament prairie
(and no this isn't a random cc, like i said, this streamer is literally on the official global WW stream)
lapis radish
well time to pirated the private server
lament prairie
then you see the speed i deleted the game
i mean i wouldnt be that pessimistic, just they have a lot to change before launch for it to work out
so we're waiting to see
lament prairie
https://tenor.com/view/danny-de-vito-no-shaking-head-gif-9684558
there's actually a thing that looks like that in-game
||paimon looking animal pet thing||
same hairstyle
sly ember
||paimon looking animal pet thing||
lament prairie
https://tenor.com/view/peepo-leave-pepe-the-frog-walk-out-bye-gif-17020862
i mean it doesnt talk
..atm
idk if thatll change
sly ember
Everything to spite yer players
lapis radish
will it follow us and making dogpile shit dialog talking ?
lapis radish
that great
lament prairie
was mostly commenting on the goofy hairstyle it has
but uh yeah echo changes are vital
a few other things that really need to sort
and they have had time
but the lesser nature of some of the changes might mean they're being stubborn
really given its the main system of the game
should have had another beta to test changes
ember roost
they are adding echo recycle system like recycling 3* 3 units gives u 1 4* echo like that
sly ember
but it doesnt talk atm
It better not
lament prairie
you know the limits on farming the rarer ones
and the substat unlocks
and the range changes etc
right?
ive looked at all the stuff
including the unofficial things
it still seems like a rather small change given what a large issue it was
but only a few days til we'll see
or if we're lucky later today on pre release streams
lapis radish
@sly ember the Ghost of tsushima not banned in your country right ?
sly ember
<@308543870440964097> the Ghost of tsushima not banned in your country right ?
In Australia, almost nothing is banned anymore
Back when we had Julia Gillard as PM, we had Metal Gear Rising, Outlast 2, and Saints Row 4 banned
lapis radish
wow Censorship
sly ember
Yeah well Gillard dropped out of politics entirely so fk her
We don't have that anymore. R18+ is the highest rating we have
lament prairie
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4_hjrmm6MM 30m til stream is up
really hope they show off cool new stuff and fixed the things that were putting people off
if it doesnt, theres a metric ton of other games this year though
playing it for a week even if i maybe end up dropping it to keep me til 4.0 is the plan tho
should be interesting
sly ember
What kind of Kosack cat GIF is that
lapis radish
magic wharf
Cok n ball torture 2?
zealous narwhal
magic wharf
Back when we had Julia Gillard as PM, we had Metal Gear Rising, Outlast 2, and S...
what a boring and sad life she has 
lament prairie
welp seems im not busy for stream, noone else around? the global one is at a really dumb time so you might want to watch it now
lapis radish
im busy ruinning people life
lament prairie
thought people would be more interested
lament prairie
im busy ruinning people life
seriously though do people just not care or what
.>
was hoping ppl would talk about stream stuff here
zealous narwhal
lament prairie
just too many gacha game
like i get that it doesnt stand out a ton
but even with how stacked this year is its out earlier
they might have time to set themselves up properly
i get that it doesnt have a ton of crossover with tof playerbase given its not sci fi or mmo etc but still
was expecting a lot more hype for it but seems nearly any time i talk about it people dont really care
zealous narwhal
<:miagun2:1237650808242311188> hand over the mia
sly ember
what a boring and sad life she has <:shiroderp:1090002680757358652>
I can't for the life of me remember what she did as Prime Minister other than introducing ultra tight restrictions on media classifications
zealous narwhal
lament prairie
Link boken
zealous narwhal
drowsy slate
maybe special delivery
sly ember
The explosive kind
drowsy slate
Which kind of explosion?
drowsy slate
Interesting
sly ember
Interesting
drowsy slate
I see
sly ember
Very kickable
lament prairie
it actually looks worse later on but i dont think theyve shown that off
zealous narwhal
sly ember
it actually looks worse later on but i dont think theyve shown that off
Give it a good little shove
Off a cliff
Yes
Don't want no plushie screaming in my ear again
drowsy slate
sly ember
So Tane. What made you leave the life of a lurker?
drowsy slate
So Tane. What made you leave the life of a lurker?
It was bored
sly ember
Interesting
lime epoch
||https://preview.redd.it/r1qls1bggd1d1.jpeg?auto=webp&s=fe2e9127fc32e31503e97ee...
I like cute animal things ๐ฅบ
ember roost
21st predownload and 23rd 10am CN time servers open
lament prairie
I like cute animal things ๐ฅบ
i like them but if you see later images i get why people are
its hard to explain but its the specific kind of cute animal face that tends to mean its a really horrible nuisance
although that hasnt been shown yet so its speculative
lime epoch
Ah yes dattebayo the game
The Male mc is attractive tho and seems nice unlike the asshole nine tails brat
lament prairie
stream was dissapointing to me though
no new info if you were following the non official stuff
and the events were kinda meh
doesnt really help im seeing a lot of streamers spread misinfo about how the game works
they dont seem to know how the game operates at all really
doesnt really help the devs confused things with how they showed some stuff
that doesnt work outside of certain events
lime epoch
no new info if you were following the non official stuff
I heard some and watched a bit and yeah nothing new came about exactly it seems
lament prairie
as if you can fully use it everywhere
they've been doing that in ads too >.>
setting expectations way too high will backfire
lime epoch
they've been doing that in ads too >.>
I was wondering if it was permanent stuff thing or temp use
lament prairie
not properly fixing the main issue people had with the game too
the echo changes arent nearly enough
lament prairie
I was wondering if it was permanent stuff thing or temp use
extremely temp use if you mean the echoes etc
we're talking a few seconds here
its a combat ability not a mount
didnt really want to step in and tell people though cause with how many streams are saying wrong stuff
theres no point
lime epoch
extremely temp use if you mean the echoes etc
Yeah I think it could have been organized better imo
I think it would have helped to say something bc ppl will not be dissatisfied or confused itโs a intro stream not the game being launched ages ago with a good amount of time being out imo
lament prairie
Yeah I think it could have been organized better imo
I think it would have he...
idk they've done it too often now
like putting co-op stuff in beta trailers that didnt exist
at this point its malicious
their marketing is awful
im still going to play the game
but im pretty upset about how the pre launch stuff has been handled
lapis radish
Ah yes dattebayo the game
The Male mc is attractive tho and seems nice unlike...
Prob equally dumb as them
lime epoch
idk they've done it too often now
Iโm always confused about that kind of intent tbh like are yโall just dumbos or genuinely being awful in general Iโm not sure what to feel honestly
lime epoch
Prob equally dumb as them
Man I almost spit out my life cereal
lapis radish
Man I almost spit out my life cereal <:fenrirkek:1174337106999529542>
Well anything better than the idiot in some other game with the idiot eng VA
lament prairie
Iโm always confused about that kind of intent tbh like are yโall just dumbos or ...
honestly? i think its both
the typos etc and no proofreader is mistake
lime epoch
Well anything better than the idiot in some other game with the idiot eng VA
u get it
lament prairie
the showing stuff not as its actually is though is pretty clearly not just incompetency
especially as they keep being told about it
theres was a big drama over localization before launch
cbt2 had wrong translation for nearly everything
lime epoch
especially as they keep being told about it
Thatโs really disappointing tbh
proud python
atleast they addressed the camera issues
lament prairie
(yes ik post was removed, but it was removed for the person being harrassed for it and mods confirmed it was official staff)
proud python
and even more changes to echo but no details
lament prairie
and even more changes to echo but no details
massive, massive red flag
that was like the no.1 beta complaint and something that'd burn people out super fast
them being this stubborn over it and giving token changes
sigh
genshin only gets away with this kinda stuff as they're super popular
kuro does not have the goodwill to pull off genshin artifact rng but 20x worse system
lapis radish
genshin only gets away with this kinda stuff as they're super popular
And the fan dumb
lime epoch
lament prairie
its annoying as the game has good parts to it and i know they can do better due to pgr
but i also know just how little time a honeymoon period will last with how it doesn't differentiate itself quite enough and what big of a risk they're making starting with a giant team
first few updates make or break it, they can't afford to be stubborn or rigid in design
anyhow still gonna try it especially as it keeps me occupied til tof 4.0
and it only take a few hours to test so not saying dont try it out
just saying like, temper expectations
you're going to see a lot of wrong information flying around too so triple check stuff
turbid cargo
Its like im reading the Lore instead of Chat
lapis radish
Suck isnt it
You know the game really have potential
Then you see dev just shite on it
sly ember
zealous narwhal
lament prairie
You know the game really have potential
yeah its like on one hand i want to be optimistic
but on the other i dont want to get my hopes up too much if i see the same kinda behaviour that has led to stuff in other games
lime epoch
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/975564224346587168/1214752802480586832/...
What the absolute god forsaken shiteโ
lament prairie
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/975564224346587168/1214752802480586832/...
ember roost
sly ember
23rd, so that's...
Today is 20th
Tomorrow is 21st
Wednesday is 22nd
Thursday is...
12PM AS WELL AAAAAAAAA
BLESS YOU COVID, I'M OFF WORK
ember roost
sly ember
Any news about her? Or is she gonna be much further down the line?
Please be playable
Don't be a Katheryne
drowsy slate
Any news about her? Or is she gonna be much further down the line?
She is a upcoming playable 4-star Havoc Broadblade character in wuthering waves
drowsy slate
lime epoch
https://tenor.com/view/cat-ears-cat-eyes-cat-hiding-hiding-cat-gif-8389763803474...
Omg that face 
zealous narwhal
i watched him before
one of best cc cat I know rn
uneven bay
its begula
zealous narwhal
its begula
nah, it's beluga
sly ember
https://tenor.com/view/nichijou-break-dancing-gif-26300217
Why does she have scissors in her back?
dark jetty
https://vxtwitter.com/iRacing/status/1792204997108904144 bro doing a iracing pose
drowsy slate
yea indeed
turbid cargo
Mothernature
drowsy slate
pine thorn
BLESS YOU COVID, I'M OFF WORK
turbid cargo
MiaSkull
magic wharf
<:necomia:1090000603142443098> Mothernature
i even know who it is
turbid cargo
inner pilot
drowsy slate
burnt vessel
lime epoch
mia: Mia spin too
turbid cargo
lapis radish
ember roost
lol true cosplayer
sly ember
YES KIRI. THIS MEANS WAR(FRAME)
pine thorn
YES KIRI. THIS MEANS WAR(FRAME)
sly ember
It's time to wear an eyepatch
river eagle
and be a true ninja?
lament prairie
<@386473437738041355> thoughts?
both en and cn called it an open beta?
whats going on
that and the lack of echo fixes etc is a big red flag
lament prairie
if its a mistranslation it shows an extreme lack of care coupled with all the other localization stuff
they did say some stuff but
its not enough
if its accurate though
the game is straight up not going to last
you can't call it a launch then roll that back to an open beta terminology wise
sigh
lets hope its just a mistake
gonna play it in 3 days anyhow
sly ember
It looks and plays nicely based on rexlent's vid but man what's the point if progression via Echoes is non-existent
lament prairie
its also pretty weird the streams got only 20k viewers
sly ember
Given how little advertising of the game I've seen, it's natural why so many people know close to nothing about it
river eagle
since PGR, Kuro haven't advertise much of their game(s)
sly ember
Really says a lot for WuWa when Kuro can roll back to their safety net that is PGR
"Fuck, WuWa flopped. Oh well, back to PGR"
Doesn't help the players, mate
ember roost
its also pretty weird the streams got only 20k viewers
when stream started it was 34k
river eagle
i would say some may still has fun playing genshin-like "single player openworld with co-op option"
lament prairie
when stream started it was 34k
why do you think they're calling it open beta btw?
i can't really wrap my head around it
they said it like a lot too
wasn't just one time
ember roost
why do you think they're calling it open beta btw?
even wild rift is in beta game launched oct 2021
sly ember
Only other game I can think of that calls itself open beta post-release is Warframe
Though I highly doubt they're employing any form of psychology by calling it that. Could it be something legal-related?
stable fiber
lament prairie
even wild rift is in beta game launched oct 2021
announcing it as a full launch then saying its open beta in last 3 days though
is not good
lament prairie
Only other game I can think of that calls itself open beta post-release is Warfr...
i played warframe when it first started
sly ember
And ftr Warframe released in 2013. Damn game's been in Open Beta for 11 years 
lament prairie
the market has changed a lot and its especially weird for gachas these days
sly ember
i played warframe when it first started
Woahhhh. Yer ancient ye are
lament prairie
yee
even at the time though the label didnt help
and that game was super buggy/feeling very rough for over a year
so its not a good indicator
ember roost
its good they called open beta becoz of bugs they can encounter other wise it gets negetive reviews like cyberpunk 2077
river eagle
Azur Lane, a game by Manjuu prior to Promillia development, open betaed for global sv in 2018, fully launched a year later (2019)
magic wharf
is not good
it's just an overused word that means completely nothing
warframe is still in beta
sly ember
its good they called open beta becoz of bugs they can encounter other wise it g...
My point exactly. It was to mitigate legal/reputational risk
A production car breaking down on the track? SHITTY MANUFACTURER
A project car breaking down on the track? Oh its OK, he's still building it
magic wharf
My point exactly. It was to mitigate legal/reputational risk
it also means that they will develop the game further
sly ember
Azur Lane, a game by Manjuu prior to Promillia development, open betaed for glo...
I want my HDN, Hololive and Kizuna Ai collabs Manjuu GIVE THEM TO MEEEEE
sly ember
it also means that they will develop the game further <:fenrirkek:11743371069995...
Hopium, but good hopium
magic wharf
you can call "open beta" every live service game actually
final nebula
river eagle
I want my HDN, Hololive and Kizuna Ai collabs Manjuu GIVE THEM TO MEEEEE
Kizuna Ai become TB instead, (va vice)
magic wharf
<:miachoke:1157327571701211166>
sly ember
As again, I mainly want WuWa to do good just to add one extra source of competition in the market
magic wharf
final nebula
<:miachoke:1157327571701211166>
sly ember
When domain 9 go
Squitty...what happened to the screaming?
final nebula
I am not sure if my laptop can run Wawa
river eagle
if wuwa do good, genshin will add more spice to Natlan
final nebula
But i will give it a shot
sly ember
I am not sure if my laptop can run Wawa
Download more RAM, dude
final nebula
Genshin will do nothing
river eagle
story wise, ofc not
final nebula
In all aspects
sly ember
WuWa doing good will raise the bar a bit higher for gachas entering the market
final nebula
sly ember
That goes double for established publishers like Hoyo
river eagle
if Wuwa can do good, then Mugen and Promillia may be encouraged
final nebula
Someone carry me in raid
magic wharf
I am not sure if my laptop can run Wawa
if it was able to run tof, the game that doesn't have optimization at all...
lament prairie
warframe is still in beta <:annahmmbella:1063002542281347133>
people don't really remember the flops
just the ones that did well
lament prairie
if Wuwa can do good, then Mugen and Promillia may be encouraged
yeah i want it to do well
which is why im so annoyed
at how its being handled
sly ember
Someone carry me in raid
"One must carry themselves, before they can be carried"
-Me, right now
final nebula
if it was able to run tof, the game that doesn't have optimization at all... <:...
I never had problems with tof
Just few blue screens
And memory leaks
But havent had one in 9 months
river eagle
at this point it's just speculation now, give wuwa a month or 2 to see actual feedbacks
lament prairie
bug wise with tof ive had one crash
magic wharf
And memory leaks
and domain 9
lament prairie
thats it
final nebula
"One must carry themselves, before they can be carried"
-Me, right now
I am f2p please understand me
lament prairie
idk if its cause i have 32gb ram etc but
final nebula
and domain 9
Never in domain 9
sly ember
Can we all agree though that WuWa is gonna be a bone dry experience without an Echoes rework
lament prairie
i dont seem to run into the same issues people do
final nebula
I have 8 gb ram
sly ember
I am f2p please understand me
So am I, brother. We'll call 12welve for carries (he's my mentor)
lament prairie
Can we all agree though that WuWa is gonna be a bone dry experience without an E...
well its more that that kinda stuff will scare off all casuals
magic wharf
I have 8 gb ram
how
final nebula
And didnt run to 99% of problems
final nebula
Wdym how
magic wharf
excessive grind for minimal gain
every gacha ever
sly ember
well its more that that kinda stuff will scare off all casuals
Which would account for a lot of people. As WuWa will be nowhere near mainstream. People more invested in Hoyo's games, ToF, PGR etc, may use WuWa as a holiday crutch, something to play in their spare team
So I suppose if even casual play isn't gonna be rewarded, a lot of people might leave for good
magic wharf
don't tell me you got bis gear in tof first week
lament prairie
well i dont know how much crossover it has with tof players given its not sci fi or mmo etc but yeah
like at absolute worst
final nebula
Wait
sly ember
It's just a shitty thing overall, and says a lot about the game
If the progression system is artificially handicapped this bad, then I have low hopes for the how "alive" the world might feel
lament prairie
it'll keep me occupied til 4.0
sly ember
This is not freakin discussion channel
It is now
magic wharf
This is not freakin discussion channel
lament prairie
This is not freakin discussion channel
? its off topic
sly ember
lament prairie
lament prairie
<:miagun:1237649488533782601>
still though
that livestream stuff was super dissapointing
final nebula
Wuwa will be a good way to spend some time between it and tof as gacha games
lament prairie
really hope that the launch will surprise us by being properly localized etc despite all indicators
final nebula
I hope yhe game is not 200gb size like genshin
sly ember
I'm just happy that:
-I have the whole week off work due to RSV
-WuWa releases midday on Thursday my time
sly ember
I hope yhe game is not 200gb size like genshin
I hope it is. Need me my crispy graphics
lament prairie
sly ember
Come at me, Kuro. I am ready
final nebula
70 hours a week
Slavery at it best
10 hours a day everyday and if you lets say have normal human being life with 2 days of weekend ( you dont work on ) you kinda work 14 hours a day
sly ember
https://preview.redd.it/p326b78f6prc1.png?width=471&auto=webp&s=cad1f580a48e78a9...
That is disgusting. No one should have to work like that, for a game of all things
ember roost
I am not sure if my laptop can run Wawa
if it can run tof wuwa can run easily
sly ember
<:miahorror:1090001975711645756>
Much space. Can of havings into many games
magic wharf
are you about to download digital Biden on that thing?
sly ember
If I can get a multi HDD enclosure that holds 4 of these bad boys, that'll be 40TB
sly ember
are you about to download digital Biden on that thing? <:shiroderp:1090002680757...
I need his wisdom in my time of need (I have Covid)
lament prairie
That is disgusting. No one should have to work like that, for a game of all thin...
yeah and for context like none of the beta was translated correctly
it was all placeholder stuff
which made nearly all the feedback useless
as the skills didnt do what they said they did etc
lament prairie
really they should have had a third beta to test echo changes and other huge stuff to fix
final nebula
wait no why did i come back
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
i should just go
lament prairie
but them calling the launch open beta now
is just red flag central
ill still play it but im really annoyed at how they're handling it
sly ember
it was all placeholder stuff
CN Lorem Ipsum script oh god...
lament prairie
needs to be more decent competition
lament prairie
CN Lorem Ipsum script oh god...
worse, it was machine translated and badly
sly ember
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
STOP SCREAMING SQUITTY
lament prairie
so it looked like it meant stuff but it was actually all wrong
final nebula
STOP SCREAMING SQUITTY
dont yell at me ๐
sly ember
dont yell at me ๐
I'LL YELL AT YOU ALL THE TIME COZ YOU A GOOD GUY
lament prairie
they literally said they'd do all the localization in the last two months so dont worry
lament prairie
dont yell at me ๐
they're very far away though
sly ember
worse, it was machine translated and badly
They had. One job. One. Job.
lament prairie
you have to type loud for people to hear you in another country
sly ember
To make the game cohesive
lament prairie
They had. One job. One. Job.
im not going to even get into all the typos in videos etc
final nebula
lament prairie
thats not even a localizer issue
or even a hire a single proofreader geez issue
its a WHY didnt you press f7 for spellcheck on keyboard issue
final nebula
just wait for no europe server
sly ember
I mean I get Hoppa and ToF. The Chinese entertainment ministry didn't issue an extension on their trade license when ToF needed more development time so they rushed it out the door and the whole game has been playing catchup for years now
But WuWa? Wtf is the story behind it?
lament prairie
would have taken two seconds
final nebula
ah right
theree is no need to have servers
PLEASE
dont make accounts related to 1 region
lament prairie
I mean I get Hoppa and ToF. The Chinese entertainment ministry didn't issue an e...
you're also forgetting it was a tiny and inexperienced team
ww has an insane amount of people making it
they're taking a big risk
but not doing the proper caution
lament prairie
well i'd think more trying to go full p2w or fanservice after first two months
then again seeing the views etc
...nah im not gonna say
dont wanna be too pessimistic
sly ember
but not doing the proper caution
Working with a Genshin-level team yet churning out ToF level content
lament prairie
lets just wait and see how it goes in a few days even with the red flags
ill try it
sly ember
well i'd think more trying to go full p2w or fanservice after first two months
I will try it. But I do not see myself staying past the first month
lament prairie
seriously though calling the game open beta 3 days before launch after not stating that prior is yikes
i've been in so many betas/game launches
i love trying new games out
sly ember
I'm sure the first few bits of story will be very wholesome and stuff (a la "This world is ruined. But together? Together, we can make it whole. Come with me" etc), which is what'll make leaving it sadder
lament prairie
I'm sure the first few bits of story will be very wholesome and stuff (a la "Thi...
well they rewrote 90% of it
used to have the people being more antagonistic towards you before warming
but now they're buddy buddy
its kinda like the tof shirli getting shot in the head beta thing
sly ember
I stg the psychological manipulation I experience from gachas to induce FOMO
Azur Lane making it feel like my shipgirls have been neglected
Arknights making it feel like my units have just been doing chores all along etc
lament prairie
but with way more rewriting and tonal shift
sly ember
I'm a sucker for mushy stuff
lament prairie
I stg the psychological manipulation I experience from gachas to induce FOMO
Az...
snowbreak uninstall has a chibi with a gun to its head
sly ember
So with 10 seconds on the clock, Kuro scratched out an entire page of their exam paper and tried to re word it
That's a yikes from me, pal
lament prairie
So with 10 seconds on the clock, Kuro scratched out an entire page of their exam...
im not joking about the 90% rewrite part
or exagerrating
thats literally the amount they said
i think it took up time that should have gone to fixing issues too
sly ember
Only other games I know of that's done that are:
-FFXIV with ARR
-FFXV with 3 development teams coming and going. Tho tbf XV was in development for 13 years
sly ember
<:MutsukiCurse:585585240496537621>
Whoever came up with the Mutsuki and Bucky faces deserves a medal
lament prairie
Only other games I know of that's done that are:
-FFXIV with ARR
-FFXV with 3 de...
people only remember the times that kinda stuff worked
river eagle
there's even version : 
lament prairie
for every nms or ff14
there's 50 that didnt turn around
ags had their first game fail so badly noone even remembers it
when talking about lost ark or new world etc
river eagle
FFXV kinda rebootted the story in like last 3 years of dev
sly ember
there's 50 that didnt turn around
Oh 100%
Success stories don't tell the whole story
Tho I really wouldn't call FFXV a success
It was god awful
lament prairie
i wouldnt call ffxiv one
sly ember
Had the cards to be a decade-defining game. Yet it ended up being a rushed mess
lament prairie
the lack of customization and watered down nature of it
is the opposite of what i play mmo's for
river eagle
they had to release anime-shorts, and a full Kingsglaive animated movie, to show wtf is going on early story (FFXV)
lament prairie
remember ffxiv also had to cut out like 50% of the ARR quests
on top of the shift to ARR
river eagle
although Insomnia City was very inspirational i even tried to mimic one in Cities Skyline
sly ember
they had to release anime-shorts, and a full Kingsglaive animated movie, to show...
Hey tbf Brotherhood was nice. KG could have been better
river eagle
Nix Ulric is ripped but wasted
sly ember
<:PortDoll:585585241142591535> although Insomnia City was very inspirational i e...
Such a shame that we only get to play it in Ep: Ardyn
You know what? Imagine Insomnia but in ToF or something. That'd be sickkk
river eagle
Indomnia is like early 21th century metropolis, with AoT superwalls
modelled after Tokyo, especailly the Citadel = Tokyo Admid twin-tower
sly ember
It just had this mad, urban vibe to it that I haven't seen in gaming since Prototype or Spiderman
sly ember
I just want more urban, bro
Too much fantasy lately
Tower Of Urban
Ft. Keith Urban
sly ember
Very, very good. But we need more
river eagle
not much narrow-streets urban jungle like NYC
sly ember
Yeah NYC shouldn't be in any game that you can't reach the skyline for
The Division 1 was ass
river eagle
or since like Crysis 2
sly ember
I still have to play the Crysis games ๐ข
river eagle
what happened to Dan? havent seen him for week(s) now
past quartz
Only other games I know of that's done that are:
-FFXIV with ARR
-FFXV with 3 de...
if only games really did develop in long years.. but no its like a construction site.. prolong it, talk about it, draw 1 thing, scrap it ~12 years
then on the last year they overwork everyone to the bone to make some sloppy piece of trash thats rushed and barely playable
sly ember
if only games really did develop in long years.. but no its like a construction ...
Couldn't have said it better myself
sly ember
<:NewDerpsey:904635620733894656> ~~what happened to Dan? havent seen him for wee...
DO NOT, KIRI. I'M WARNING YA
past quartz
river eagle
sly ember
<:NagatoStare:611004138003628032>
OH GOD NOT THE FORCED IMPERIAL POWER BROKER MARRIAGE FOXGIRL
MUSASHIIIIII. HELP
SASAGEYO OR WHATEVER
river eagle
what did Nugget do!?
past quartz
ff15 wasnt complete garbage though, just if it wasnt about a boring boy band, made some dumb time lapse where they ran off then milked that for dlcs, made combat even remotely hard, and didnt kill off random key characters at the start..
sly ember
<:MutsukiCurse:585585240496537621> what did Nugget do!?
Forced. Imperial. Marriage. When you reach Crush or even Love affinity. God save your soul if you Oath her
sly ember
ff15 wasnt complete garbage though, just if it wasnt about a boring boy band, ma...
Everytime I think about what it could have been, it makes it harder to digest what ended up being
past quartz
true 
river eagle
well I did the only child char i ever had to
sly ember
<:PortDoll:585585241142591535> well ~~I did~~ the only child char i ever had to
You are dead to me, Kozo. Goodbye ๐
Jk jk
Mutsu is more wholesome
river eagle
this new destroyer is thiccer than Chapayev, a cruiser
sly ember
this new destroyer is thiccer than Chapayev, a cruiser
That ain't no DD. That thing has DD
river eagle
see "Mogador"
sly ember
There's so many shipgirls that don't belong in their class
Surcouf being an SSV
Mullany being a DD etc
river eagle
although the thiccest sub now is Senran-collab Homura
river eagle
Homura-sub is thiccer than her Senran-story OG
sly ember
I'll tell you which Azur Lane collab char got the best glow up of all, imo?
Tamaki from DoA
The DoA XVV girls always looked a bit odd in 3D but holy heck Tamaki in 2D with the office clothes
river eagle
and Luna
sly ember
Gone
river eagle
their 3d model sure is way pre-Genshin Cel-shading 3d
sly ember
Tamaki's skin was the only one I ever bought outright
river eagle
i never buy any collab-skin
sly ember
Tamaki's was too good to pass up, dude. Even by my standards
river eagle
the bathroom swimsuit one?
sly ember
The other one was Formidable's dress one (with Dido, Sirius and Little Bel helping her), but that one I got off the 2022 Gems pack as a lucky box item
sly ember
the bathroom swimsuit one?
Yeppppppp
As such. New Jersey, Tamaki, and Kisaragi have never left my secretary lineup
New Jersey as the one true waifu
Tamaki as the [REDACTED]
Kisaragi as the one true daughter
river eagle
sly ember
sly ember
https://tenor.com/view/azur-lane-hood-mutsuki-slap-butts-gif-19384379
COULD BE WORSE
COULD BE ARK ROYAL
river eagle
COULD BE WORSE
there's a reason i said "2 mins later" not "after Kisa troll"
before Mutsuki meet hood
sly ember
Ark Royal's fringe is one straight angle away from being Yelan
The one true daughter
river eagle
ye, there's always an army of FBI nearby when Kisaragi is in risky sitution
sly ember
I hate how overused the FBI jokes are for AL. Like I get it, Dace caused wayyyyyyyy more controversy than the game needed. But come on, man
Every Sakura kindergartener ship's comments has the first or second comment as an FBI joke
past quartz
sly ember
then there's Kisaragi's stranger default line " SKK, you won't eat me, right?"
WHY DO YOU Y'ALL THINK OF IT THAT WAY 
cerulean stone
sly ember
That line just makes me wanna hug her
sly ember
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/932908795972169728/1122574556121542727/...
Terrorism
river eagle
WHY DO YOU Y'ALL THINK OF IT THAT WAY <a:AquaRage:902206810927267880>
actual context = "she's been reading kid's bedtime story about "bad guy will eat you"
sly ember
She has a fear of wolves, I know that much
Source: Non retrofit skin log-in dialogue
cerulean stone
sly ember
My guess is it could refer to possibly the aerial bomber squad that sank her
river eagle
actual IJN wolf = Jintsu Alice skin
sly ember
https://tenor.com/view/huang-qinglong-explosion-sniff-anime-girl-huang-gif-10376...
Deserved tbh
river eagle
river eagle
sly ember
Mimi torture hours
Bottom text
lament prairie
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2148130843?t=00h36m23s this was what i posted that got deleted btw
did keep saying to move to off topic and you kept going no
(re:conversation in other channel with bard etc about how this kinda stuff just damages games)
and leads to people getting very upset when stuff doesnt match up after people get amped up too much
lament prairie
magic wharf
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2148130843?t=00h36m23s this was what i posted that ...
one word
context
lament prairie
one word
context
...
saying context doesn't give context you know
just saying context is the exact opposite of elaborating with context
magic wharf
k
lament prairie
and you wonder why i get confused why you're annoyed when i type a lot
its because just saying one word
isn't enough
lament prairie
that's a whole video...
you can look at more than the clip but tectone going ''hey brigade the ww subreddit''
is pretty blatent
theres not really more context to that which justifies that
mods removed the post and then a ton of new ones came up whining about the removals
magic wharf
you know why? cuz reddit doesn't like him, and often talk shit/making stuff up, about him, and deleting every post that somewhat calling it out
lament prairie
you know why? cuz reddit doesn't like him, and often talk shit/making stuff up, ...
lol
magic wharf
even in that video you posted
lament prairie
you're justfiying this?
no wonder the way you act the way you do
if you think mass brigading subs is appropriate
magic wharf
you're justfiying this?
you're justifying smear campaign?
lament prairie
how on earth is it a smear campaign
tectone L I T E R A L L Y says to brigade the subreddit
in the clip i linked
magic wharf
tectone L I T E R A L L Y says to brigade the subreddit
i just explained to you why
lament prairie
''people dont like me here, better annoy them further and in a way that could get me blacklisted from covering ww stuff''
the mod team has official staff on
and they were pissed
magic wharf
''people dont like me here, better annoy them further and in a way that could ge...
exactly
not just don't like him, they literally making stuff up to dislike him
lament prairie
people dont like them
because they do stuff like this
thats against both twitch and reddit and ww ToS
magic wharf
thats against both twitch and reddit and ww ToS
i don't see him banned
a lot of people tried to
cuz he's being critical about their beloved game
lament prairie
why are the antagonizing official staff
of wuthering waves
there's no good reason
like i said, i actually care about the game
magic wharf
why are the antagonizing official staff
they ALREADY WAS, preemptively
lament prairie
which is why i call out bad behaviour on both ends
i want it to do well
but people like you are like sure harrass the subreddit and official staff just because they dont like you
magic wharf
which is why i call out bad behaviour on both ends
so it's good behaviour to talk shit about cc
openly
sly ember
All I see lately is both of you arguing over something or other
magic wharf
and farm karma, just by lying
lament prairie
All I see lately is both of you arguing over something or other <:Susge:88857353...
toby you should look at what that actually is though
in this case its a streamer literally asking people to brigade official subreddit
magic wharf
but not good when this exact cc start to just make fun about it and do whatever, cuz you can't argue with reddit mob
lament prairie
and bard going sure be as much of a jerk as you want
lament prairie
All I see lately is both of you arguing over something or other <:Susge:88857353...
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2148130843?t=00h36m23s seriously, watch even a few seconds of the clip, really easy to get the jist of it
sly ember
Oh god wtf
river eagle
lament prairie
yes its very stupid
but a lot of people are acting like this on the run up to launch
sly ember
magic wharf
bro is spamming same video for multiple days now completely misrepresenting of what happened
what point are you trying to make
lament prairie
bro is spamming same video for multiple days now completely misrepresenting of w...
you can see the subreddit mods which again i remind you has official ww staff on commenting on it too and no im not spamming it
i am however immensly perplexed why you think this kind of behaviour is ok and should be encouraged
magic wharf
i am however immensly perplexed why you think this kind of behaviour is ok and s...
you defending smear campaign against one bald guy, literally
lament prairie
its not a smear campaign when the clip is literally of them saying brigade the subreddit, i literally linked to the person involved saying do it
lament prairie
what he did is consequences of what they did
people upset at you isnt a reason to throw a hissy fit
and throw a mob at people
magic wharf
people upset at you isnt a reason to throw a hissy fit
why not?
again, they were not upset
magic wharf
they literally making shit up to talk bad about you
lament prairie
toddlers know better than making these kinda tantrums
magic wharf
will you just walk it off?
so it's good when someone do bad stuff behind his back, just because you don't like him? what twisted logic is that?
lament prairie
its a pretty quick shortcut to getting justifyably blacklisted from covering wuthering waves
you can't direct your fans to antagonize/brigade mod teams with offical staff on them
magic wharf
why are you so stuck to this exact clip ignoring everything that lead to this
lament prairie
because you just said, literally, the word context
then refused to give context
said ppl made up stuff about them
gave 0 details
didnt say why the official staff deserved to be treated this kinda way
and id argue really theres no justification for harrassing official staff
magic wharf
i gave you context, you ignored it and go on for whole circle again
lament prairie
even though you've given none
gentle grove
lament prairie
but this is just going round in circles so ill just again point out i linked the actual stuff including the streamer in question asking people to brigade stuff and leave it at that
magic wharf
?????\
lament prairie
https://tenor.com/view/ultrasad-gif-23310565
dw gonna stop talking now not worth talking to a brick wall
gentle grove
magic wharf
but this is just going round in circles so ill just again point out i linked the...
he, punched, back
that's all
proud python
I didn't finish my popcorn yet 
keep going
magic wharf
and you made the whole drama about it, ignoring EVERYTHING that lead to it
proud python
<:MumeiJudge:878147704226734081>
want some?
proud python
๐ฟ feel free to take
gusty ferry
past quartz
in the end, why are we caring about the actions of people you cant control? ignore it and let the waves hit and simmer down
proud python
in the end, why are we caring about the actions of people you cant control? igno...
Because it's internet people like to pvp in here
proud python
<:miagun:1237649488533782601>
magic wharf
in the end, why are we caring about the actions of people you cant control? igno...
nah, ignoring it is what lead us to this
people allowed to talks shit and make stuff up, but if you being critical of it - you're the problem
backwards logic
lament prairie
people allowed to talks shit and make stuff up, but if you being critical of it ...
there's being critical of it
magic wharf
then go battle the mobs and get stampeded over instead of talking about the mob
that's exactly what he did
lament prairie
then there's telling your fans to mass brigade official wuthering waves stuff
tectone is a jerk, and theres a reason the top comment was calling his fans kids
magic wharf
and here we go again
magic wharf
dude don't understand the difference between cause and effect
lament prairie
people telling others to follow the kind of cc's that actively troll others is why we got to the state where people are really upset at launch stream
i hope the game itself goes well though even with the red flags and ill be trying it myself in a few days
lament prairie
its just frustrating to see people actively trying to start stuff
including misleading people about how the game is
magic wharf
its just frustrating to see people actively trying to start stuff
and you're somehow at the center of it
lament prairie
and you're somehow at the center of it <:fenrirkek:1174337106999529542>
you mean tectone
magic wharf
almost every time