218 xl

[snow elk]

oof

[floral mulch]

same as here

[floral mulch]

but if i fix it it will be nice, I like the images as they are

[floral mulch]

BRUH

vlad merger also broken

FUCK

spent the entire day debugging and I'm still rtarded

[wide beacon]

ask someone that knows more

[heady echo]

[floral mulch]

did

I still have a last resort but

everything takes so long

[frail zealot]

@floral mulch version of pony that doesn't need quality tags
https://civitai.com/models/280344

[floral mulch]

I'll look at it TMRW but holy fuck I'll take anything at this point

[languid cliff]

i heard that today u can find a vewy hapi neko here that wants to greet everyone!

[floral mulch]

I dont want that confetti shit, but the other merge it uses might be worth a try

counterfeit guy also came out with an animagine thing

https://civitai.com/models/286574?modelVersionId=322331

[floral mulch]

I'll use this, confetti, aid

heart of apple, bulldozer

and 2 other scuffed merges I have saved up

and that should be it

I just hope that lite pony mix is not shit

[floral mulch]

the lite comrade dpo pony shit is still pretty cancerous

but we'll see

[floral mulch]

pretty much limited to using non weighted sum with pony related merging

top_k_tensor_sum distribution_crossover and rotate

can do more of last 1 now that it only takes 2~ hours instead of 12

i'll leave one on for the night

[languid cliff]

i heard that illy nee nee is vewy hapi and has a vewy comfy day today!

[wide beacon]

Might be worth looking into this finetune of CC mix from Advokat
https://civitai.com/models/291401

[floral mulch]

Not a fan of the confetti aesthetic, but it is the best quality one from the models that used pony

[jaunty vortex]

Yeah not a huge fan of that style

Apparently the way the clip tokenized works means that prompting will always be kinda broken on current sd models so you can't reach dalle prompt understanding either

[floral mulch]

schizo

[floral mulch]

this effect is so sick

the background

brush

[jaunty vortex]

looks pretty original

[floral mulch]

I'm merging aid 62 merge and aid 52/6 merge with aid 71

[heady echo]

[jaunty vortex]

Pose is better

Tete original pose was not dynamic

[floral mulch]

maybe rng dunno

gotta be closer to 1 than that tho

[jaunty vortex]

post more pics 😄

[languid cliff]

Smol floofy mofus are gibbing huggies to everyone to ensure everyone hab good day!

[floral mulch]

man

aid 71 is just worse

than the previous ones

[frail zealot]

you say that ever time

[heady echo]

i did try w that v6 neg and thought it was good
but i didn't test too much

like i think need to change the negs

[floral mulch]

it has been downhill since 5.2

52

71 vs 52-62

compeltely lost the style

[floral mulch]

if u replace clip with the one from previous versions

its almost the same model

thats crazy

[wide beacon]

Merge clip at weight sum 0.5 0.5 with Animagine

[floral mulch]

ist alright but not perfect

I want a few other things from animagine

but should be fine manually

right now I'm trying to see which blocks help with char knowledge

other than base

cuz I'm pretty sure a few of them helped

[floral mulch]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1148401296597057546/1205011970449739827/xy_grid-0040-1940027991.png?ex=65d6d1d9&is=65c45cd9&hm=0a182e16055c59ff62c7ec6b6fbf9080d00b64e9e4089da3ced862606b382492&

1st is closest to pre 71 merges

[jaunty vortex]

Oooooooooo

I think 3 looks the most correct in this ?

[floral mulch]

3 has been the best in this test

[jaunty vortex]

What is the method of making these

Just manually changing weights?

[floral mulch]

Yeah mostly just XYZ in suoernerger

And noting down stuff that looks good

[jaunty vortex]

4 looks more interesting but the hand position kinda wrong

[floral mulch]

I'm not going for absolute perfection cuz there's too many variables for manually testing, especially without having any guidelines like for 1.5 models, and I'll merge further into this as well anyways but it's always nice to have a decent checkpoint. Best part about this method is you always have something to fall back to when you note down working recipes

[jaunty vortex]

Yeah can't tell just from a few cherry picks

[floral mulch]

That too

[jaunty vortex]

Unless one recipe is literally 2x better

Once it gets into "uhh is this one slightly better" territory it's tough

[floral mulch]

Feels like anatomy fluctuates, but what's more static is style and concepts once you find the right blocks, just what sucks especially is it seems to be also a combination, not just x does y

Yeah

[jaunty vortex]

I noticed stable merges tend to end up looking more boring

[floral mulch]

Dunno how to make those so we'll be fine

[jaunty vortex]

Well I think it's harder for the model to make nonsense if it makes mostly the same types of poses

[floral mulch]

Not sure if it worked like that on 1.5 but here if you change only the base the entire image will look different

[jaunty vortex]

Hmm which one is the base

[floral mulch]

1st block

Clip

S

[jaunty vortex]

Like the 1,1 then 1<-

I only change weights of loras usually

[floral mulch]

Like for aid71, changing it to the ones from previous versions, changes the entire look of the model to the same or similar as those precious versions, even though it has aninagine in it

Previous

[jaunty vortex]

I saw you said that earlier

[floral mulch]

Yeah

I just thought it was weird

[jaunty vortex]

I think aid got the styles by taking the clip from 1.5

[floral mulch]

But also makes sense since it should kinda be the same model

Dunno what they use, they probably train the te to get the styles for the artists?

[jaunty vortex]

I think Euge said they took the 1.5 aid TE and replaced the compatible one into the SDXL model

[floral mulch]

But we'll yeah they kinda failed with the animagine merge, lost one of my fav artstyles, who knows how many else

[jaunty vortex]

This was during 0.5 I think

[floral mulch]

I c

[jaunty vortex]

It's in their article

It was 0.41 actually

[floral mulch]

Interesting

Well it's a decent version

Also does alright natural language

I'll prob keep it at like .7 since I'll do more aninagine side merges down the line anyways

Ill need to try that faster webui version, maybe helps speed up model loading etc

[jaunty vortex]

Animagine has great poses

[wide beacon]

You can buy ram for CyberWaifu

he'd do it

[floral mulch]

Nahh

I checked and there's 1 million possible combinations

[heady echo]

[floral mulch]

might do 1 and 3 and merge them at 0.5

easier than microadjsuting the shits

[jaunty vortex]

ribbons look cool

[wide beacon]

ok I like this one

gib it 2 me

[languid cliff]

So much new text mofu overload but mofu thinks everyone should be hapi and glad!

[floral mulch]

sadly tons of errors but fun

[floral mulch]

almost pog

[heady echo]

:0

looking awesome

[jaunty vortex]

Zumizumi

Good stuff

[heady echo]

just found out animagine xl 3.0 also has artist

well ig long time to "find out"

[floral mulch]

[heady echo]

love it

[floral mulch]

best pic so far

[heady echo]

[floral mulch]

ok I have to meet left and right somewhere between

and then I might be finished

[floral mulch]

bleh

right is close

but giving up char kowledge is not an option

[floral mulch]

like I said, adjust base = get more of target model

no base = barely anything

[languid cliff]

heard smug mofus are here to smug on everyone into hapi!

[wide beacon]

AuroraXL is out
https://civitai.com/models/301957/aurora-xl-basepony-xl

[floral mulch]

still uses score tags

spent the entire day trying to make a gradio theme

dont give a fuck anymore since it's trash

I couldnt even save it

[heady echo]

:0

[wide beacon]

it's a joke btw

[heady echo]

joke model ?

or someone made a model called aurora but it's unrelated to aurora 1.5 ?

[floral mulch]

yeah they're pretty much the same as pony

dont see anything new

[wide beacon]

it's a pony finetune trained the same way as Animagine

but of course a finetune will not remove the need for the score tags

[languid cliff]

[nocturne cosmos]

no Rella as artist

[untold oriole]

Long time no see imi

[languid cliff]

nuuu dont be sad!

mofu here to make u hapi!

[jaunty vortex]

Last ones kinda bland

[floral mulch]

it's not aid related

heart of apple 2 and swampmachine 2

both are like 90% animagine

[jaunty vortex]

Yeah can tell

Looks more counterfeit like

[floral mulch]

yep

swampmachine is counterfeit guys finetune

tried forge for merging

with bayesian

worse performance and crashes

but at least it starts

[wide beacon]

The code is kinda different so I’d be weird to just work ootb

(at this point it’s time to do it on comfy)

[jaunty vortex]

The memory leak is scaring me away from trying

[floral mulch]

It's pretty bad, had to do a lot to make sdxl work and even now it might be broken, and that's not even related to the memory leak. I'd use sdnext but I'm not even sure it would work there since the api might be different in addition to meh

[languid cliff]

hope everyone hab best day!

[floral mulch]

I fixed glitches (or made them less visible) by merging 2 broken models together

vs

[floral mulch]

weird

3rd composition i don't like as much but it has no artifacting

[floral mulch]

finding some cool compositions while fixing the glitches

[floral mulch]

ok I removed

[monochrome environment] since mangas have the type of brushes that cause stuff like the artifacts I've been seeing

conclusion, animebulldozer is broken

[floral mulch]

[heady echo]

oh my

[floral mulch]

most of the journey is done

[nocturne cosmos]

ngl I think aid v6.1- has away better artist style support than nai3

[wide beacon]

But ssamabatea

[floral mulch]

That js2 pony model actually looks a lot better than normal pony from what I tried

Dunno about capability but seems close

[wide beacon]

js2 ?

[floral mulch]

Yes

[wide beacon]

What’s js2

[floral mulch]

Model name

[wide beacon]

Uh

[heady echo]

will need to try after work

[floral mulch]

might be possible to merge a decent chink of it

u

[heady echo]

chunk

[floral mulch]

doing a few more xyzs, need to decide on which ones to use from these checkpoints

[heady echo]

[floral mulch]

you can send a few prompts if u have some to check until tmrw

too late today

[floral mulch]

@heady echo got any interesting párompts to try?

[heady echo]

let me look

1girl, solo, long hair, looking at viewer, blush, bangs, brown hair, long sleeves, dress, bow, ribbon, holding, bare shoulders, brown eyes, jewelry, very long hair, earrings, frills, parted lips, detached sleeves, wings, pointy ears, blunt bangs, black bow, detached collar, wavy hair, red dress, frilled dress, crown, skull, cage, birdcage

1girl, solo, long hair, looking at viewer, blush, bangs, blue eyes, skirt, shirt, long sleeves, hat, bow, school uniform, pink hair, pleated skirt, serafuku, sailor collar, blue shirt, pink bow, white sailor collar, outdoors, sky, cloud, water, blue sky, sparkle, night, ocean, star (sky), night sky, starry sky, horizon, shooting star, photo background,

[floral mulch]

still needs fixing

I cant believe every sample I have is broken

[heady echo]

[floral mulch]

@heady echo @wide beacon @jaunty vortex if u guys have time can u check the xyzs and tell me which ones you like? ignoring the glitch part, I think I can remove it but I need to decide on one

[heady echo]

surez

[wide beacon]

maybe 4

[floral mulch]

ty

seems like one of them appeared 3 times

I also like that one a lot

[untold oriole]

Those eyes

[floral mulch]

think I fixed it

also made it darker

and maybe more scuffed cuz of over details

but its just one ingredient of the 3 so I'll leave it at that

all I wanted is the cringe artifact to be gone

[floral mulch]

the images darker cuz of stuff, but I think its fine

@heady echo your city photo prompt for example

previously

[heady echo]

i like them 3 ngl

[floral mulch]

I wonder if adding more noise makes it follow the prompt more

some other pics

[floral mulch]

https://huggingface.co/Enferlain/218xl/tree/main/test

@glass tulip if u wanna try it, no guarantees tho

[heady echo]

[floral mulch]

wtf

[heady echo]

idk

😂

[floral mulch]

maybe ti-s break it

[heady echo]

oops i forgot to turn off thaat colorful lora

[floral mulch]

whats vivaldiopendalle

[heady echo]

lmfao

did i set the wrong model

[floral mulch]

[heady echo]

no wonder the look looked completely different

that's avocat's model

[floral mulch]

ah

avokado nikokado

[heady echo]

suddently thinking
"did imi merge w pony"

"was the color lora that strong"

wait

@floral mulch

[floral mulch]

its cute

I think its broken though

like

https://imgur.com/84BMA2A

[heady echo]

i'll try same prompt w animagine maybe
just bc curious

oh

[floral mulch]

struggles with denoising

so you might get extra detail like those add detail loras

which includes fingers

[heady echo]

[floral mulch]

but its usable I think

its just an ingredient anyways

the final merge will be aid + this + pony

[heady echo]

[floral mulch]

good thing it didnt lose multi char capability

its still animagine after all

[heady echo]

this was pure animgaine

[floral mulch]

hm

its cute

I guess the merge is "harsh"

heavier on style maybe

all 3 models used are further finetunes of animagine

[heady echo]

[glass tulip]

https://tenor.com/view/touhou-reimu-marisa-clap-gif-23103446

[floral mulch]

flandre pic

[floral mulch]

awesome

but yeah its a bit tough to rein in I think

had some issues during inpaint or some inconsistencies

gonna look into it tmrw

[glass tulip]

i havent tried inpainting with it yet, i really like it

[floral mulch]

fingers can get into trouble

[heady echo]

6

[floral mulch]

but I guess its kinda aschizo prompt

hand up, covering face + fingerless gloves, hiding behind carrot

[floral mulch]

cute

well its animagine anyways

[glass tulip]

[floral mulch]

u come up with some cool shit

[glass tulip]

I honestly love this model, the prompt i grab left and right from other images

[floral mulch]

[glass tulip]

this one is yours

[floral mulch]

yeah

https://tenor.com/view/azur-lane-shimakaze-love-you-gif-23113992

[wide beacon]

waw

[floral mulch]

by potg is my new liked artist tag

[floral mulch]

kjut

I've been happy wth the merge

animagine is probably capable of all of this but I didn't try as much

or maybe the finetunes add a lot

[heady echo]

imi merge vs animagine

[heady echo]

he's watching

1984 teddy

[floral mulch]

I should do some comparisont too

[floral mulch]

I wonder how I'Ll merge this with pony and aid

[heady echo]

[floral mulch]

yea

aid is easier but pony is the issue still

[nocturne cosmos]

hmmm, for some reason this model really don't like any sampler with a M.

[floral mulch]

yes

I tried 2m karras and it was relaly harsh

probably because there is a lot more noise

I've never seen a model that breaks when using 2m karras or other samplers so at least I made something new I guess

[jaunty vortex]

yeah looks like only the ones that usually have added noise work

[wide beacon]

Umbra mecha works very well with DPM++ 2M SDE Karras from what I’ve tested

Terrible with Euler tho

[heady echo]

ngl ive been using euler

[floral mulch]

opposite for me

well I only tried euler a

and 2m karras

[wide beacon]

model is horny wtf

[floral mulch]

Chu mean

[wide beacon]

Completely sfw prompts become quite a bit horny

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1019446913268973689/1211943902161145876/0237-828763658-umbra_mechasafetensors-3.png

This was the least weird I got with this prompt

#ai-art message

[floral mulch]

I like it

how is it horny tho, exposed skin or stuff

[wide beacon]

As I said this was the least weird

Other gens were kinda horny

[floral mulch]

I havent got a lot of it

I mean unprompted

[floral mulch]

3rd model is the one that was broken

middle one used it as model b, transferred brokenness

1st one also uses it in a capacity

not broken

at least not visibly

[floral mulch]

umbra step 1 vs normal step 1

you can kinda see its the same start almost

but it ends wildly different

[untold oriole]

[languid cliff]

i heard some extremely hapi mofus are lurking here tonight!

if u lean back they will gib u huggies!

[floral mulch]

[jaunty vortex]

cute cute

[wide beacon]

new AIDXL to try https://civitai.com/models/124189?modelVersionId=372261

[wide beacon]

It's very wonky or idk how to use this version

[languid cliff]

vewy vewy floofy and hapi nekos are here requesting kindly pats

[nocturne cosmos]

AIDv8 is good again with the artist style

[heady echo]

new version

[nocturne cosmos]

and I think its even better than the V6

[frail zealot]

I tried Mecha umbra. It's pretty good but the old SDXL neg is fucked

[floral mulch]

and euler a 28

[floral mulch]

just stick with worst quality, low quality, lowres, bad anatomy, artist name, watermark

[frail zealot]

have to actually use my words now
can't wait until the not scuffed mind-machine interafce is here, can't believe i actually have to type out words smh

[floral mulch]

real talk

btw we can merge pony

just 0.5 somehow works and doesnt look bad

but you lose stuff from model a and maybe model b too

[frail zealot]

isn't htat normal with merging? you're just averaging out weights innit?

[floral mulch]

yeah

well

I tried just individual keys from the first te

BASE:position_embedding:1,BASE:layer_norm1:1,BASE:layer_norm2:1,BASE:self_attn.k_proj:1,BASE:self_attn.out_proj:1,BASE:self_attn.q_proj:1,BASE:self_attn.v_proj:1,BASE:mlp_fc1:1,BASE:mlp_fc2:1,BASE:position_ids:1

token_embeddings ruins char knowledge, but even without ayanami still has animal ears most of the time

token_embedding does the worst

[frail zealot]

are you just systematically merging every block?

[floral mulch]

no, just swapping keys from pony

[floral mulch]

these are just 0.5 weight sum tho

[frail zealot]

@opaque mantle you're the expert in x/y chart merging, what do you think

[floral mulch]

[opaque mantle]

hm, hard to tell since I hadnt merged sdxl yet

[floral mulch]

its a double barrier, sdxl is 1 category and then pony another

[opaque mantle]

yee

[frail zealot]

did u see what yuno wrote

模型融合死路一条，画风多样性和部分提示词的准确性一塌糊涂。
model merging is a dead end. styles are shit and accuracy is all over the place

[floral mulch]

who wrote that

model merging is being revived now

https://github.com/ljleb/sd-mecha
https://github.com/wkpark/sd-webui-model-mixer

[frail zealot]

另外有些人差不多得了，太阳不是鸡叫出来的，没有好的训练模型融个P。
anyway there are some people who almost got it, but the rising of the sun is not because of the rooster's crow, there are not good trained models to integrate

[frail zealot]

Yuno779

[floral mulch]

whos that

[frail zealot]

AnythingV3 merger

[floral mulch]

ah

well dunno how good he is at merging

anyv3 was 1+ year ago

and his anythingxl merge is just 0.25 and 0.5 between models, nothing specific

[frail zealot]

SDXL weights are kind of fucky to merge though

you could basically merge any two models on sd1.5 and it wouldn't shit the bed too hard

SDXL sometimes becomes a real shit garbled mess

[jaunty vortex]

Cuz 1.5 was all nai based

[floral mulch]

yeah

[frail zealot]

Well I mean even for the weirdo finetunes that andite used to make

[wide beacon]

Lora merging in the huggingface thing https://github.com/huggingface/peft/releases/tag/v0.9.0

[floral mulch]

I sitll dont know what do shits do

[floral mulch]

hm

latent upscale works really well with umbra

[floral mulch]

I like the texture of this combination

by potg, by fkey, by wlop

its smooth

[jaunty vortex]

post pic

[languid cliff]

mofu heard hapi people were here!

[floral mulch]

Next time

[floral mulch]

I'm back to merging aids now

Gonna do it auto since the bad ones are diluted enough now

V8 seems fine anyways

Just wanna include my previous good attempts

[heady echo]

v8 seems good it's just missing that shiny polished look

[heady echo]

ooo

this was my 218 vs v8

like 218 isn't as washed up

v8 did get the red turtleneck tho

[floral mulch]

what artist is that

or just give me prompt

[heady echo]

by ajimita, 1girl, black hair, black eyes, red eyeshadow, red turtleneck, red midi skirt, cowbot shot, street, japanese street fashion

[heady echo]

[floral mulch]

looks weird

not really satisfied with this merge so far, some looks great but others not so much

[heady echo]

goat dog

[floral mulch]

cow

[heady echo]

cow

[floral mulch]

yea dunno, I'll try again later

[jaunty vortex]

hmm

[floral mulch]

huh

I barely changed anything

good thing I checked

gonna do 1 more

[heady echo]

one is not like the others

[floral mulch]

I like both

aidside has some animagine in it

[frail zealot]

replace it with kohaku delta

[floral mulch]

I like it but I think aid has more and better styles

[frail zealot]

yeh

well i was more thinking kohaku replaces animagine

[floral mulch]

ahh

no shot

[jaunty vortex]

I tried kohaku delta it's a little incoherent

[floral mulch]

well, it was trained with a novel method

I like quasarcake standalone

[jaunty vortex]

very ncie

[floral mulch]

this artist is litty

[jaunty vortex]

😍

the values are good

even in greyscale her hair pops

[wide beacon]

the imi cooking den

[floral mulch]

I wonder if I can do 3 chars with a decent winrate

[nocturne cosmos]

lmao, cant even generate the angle halo anymore, I blame blue archive

[floral mulch]

yuor angle?

try angel instead of angle

[nocturne cosmos]

ohshit, im dumb

[floral mulch]

https://tenor.com/view/love-live-sifas-llsifas-kotori-minami-hanamaru-kunikida-gif-20740701

but wouldnt be surprised

blue archive was probably like 10% of the dataset

or more realistically

[misty siren]

prompt?

Oh it has exif sorry

[snow elk]

Is there a list of artists that umbra mecha can do?

[floral mulch]

not particularly, just try whatever is on animagine 3.0 or 3.1, there are too many finetunes in it to keep track and I dont even know if they published their artist lists

[snow elk]

oke , what finetunes did you include?

[floral mulch]

heart of apple v1 v2 swampmachine 2 animebulldozer 2

[snow elk]

oke

[nocturne cosmos]

aid8 finetune when

[floral mulch]

no clue I'Ll do something with it soonish

but I'm stuck trying to merge pony still

[frail zealot]

No sure how much AIDXL retained, but here
https://civitai.com/posts/1663973

[floral mulch]

theres no aidxl in umbra, although its planned but not sure when

[wide beacon]

it's what Animagine 3.0, Bulldozer and Heart of Apple can do iirc

so all you need is the list in #1197939484638064750

[floral mulch]

yeah basically

[frail zealot]

Where swampmachine

[floral mulch]

counterfeit guy

civit

[floral mulch]

ok

actually got to merging pony and animagine now

and it works

but it's still not gonna be like what I wanted, so I just want a small % that can be finetuned on top of

it works as in some of the concepts work in umbra without destroying how it looks

[heady echo]

woah

[floral mulch]

only took 200gb and a day

(all of these work btw)

[floral mulch]

gott make 20-30 xyzs and tally up the ones I like

[heady echo]

soon(tm)

[floral mulch]

I still gonna try some more stuff tmrw to make it stronger maybe, now that I know what methods work

its just about finding out the most optimal parts

[ruby thistle]

this model is the goat...how can it rival some of my NAI gens I don't know

are pony loras compatible?

[wide beacon]

no

[floral mulch]

probably not

some of them might be at weight 1.5 or 2, or if u prompt all characteristics of a character

if u mean 218xl it's pretty old now in terms of ai shit, but yeah it can still make decent images

[frail zealot]

animagine might be

[ruby thistle]

I see, it still holds well enough I might say

[ruby thistle]

Holup isn't animagine trained on raw sdxl? 🫠

[frail zealot]

yeah in the same sense novelaiv1 is trained on raw sd1.5

[floral mulch]

for now I'll try to get a model thats between animagine and pony in terms of concept knowledge

but tbh umbra is already goat so I won't really take anything if it means ruining the artstyle in it

what do people use for dataset building atm? just grabber or something?

[frail zealot]

that's what i was told if you're grabbing from dan

[languid cliff]

floofy furballs are here hugging

[frail zealot]

@floral mulch https://civitai.com/posts/2122190

[wide beacon]

bro CivitAI notifications panel is so fucking useless

it pinged me about everything except the post

anyway if this is based on Pony I'll off myself

seems to be just AidXL but idk if it's a restart or a continuation

@nocturne cosmos new AidXL soon and seems decent

This is the single weirdest romance gen ever https://civitai.com/images/9777796

[floral mulch]

doubt

[heady echo]

plot twist it's the secret ingredient

[wide beacon]

Nai3 leak is real

[heady echo]

[nocturne cosmos]

oh shit 5000 artists style

we need a thread for that i guess

[heady echo]

oh wth i didn't even see the 5k

[wide beacon]

There will likely be undertrained style in the 5k

[floral mulch]

there are a lot in animagine that do nothing

on weight 1

[wide beacon]

yeah and it's the same for AidXL

there's no way Euge trained 5k artists that all work properly

[floral mulch]

sure

altho I Feel like theres still more in aid than animagine

at least ones that are stronger

also hard to find the stronger ones in the comparison thread

cuz theres too many

I'd only have noted the ones that do something

[nocturne cosmos]

imo, art styles in aidv8 is the best in all aid series

ill be happy even if the new model has 50% effectiveness art styles of the aidv8

[wide beacon]

I'd say 50% is lower than Animagine

[nocturne cosmos]

Animagine might have 50 artist styles are >= 50% of effectiveness of aid

[wide beacon]

nanashi \(nlo\)

[wide beacon]

https://civitai.com/models/410737/neta-art-xl #ai-art message

[floral mulch]

has cringe 3.1/aid6+ like artifacting

[nocturne cosmos]

new AidXL when

[floral mulch]

yeah not a fan of neta look so far

kosa is better looking from immediate tests

forgot what it was made of tho

kosa vs neta

[nocturne cosmos]

Could still be good tho, AID tend to generate low contract and orange-ish img, netaArt could kind of fix that.

[floral mulch]

I like that look

[jaunty vortex]

Yeah neta is less aesthetic there

Damn every time I see ppl draw violin playing it's so inaccurate

What's the kosa model btw

[wide beacon]

https://civitai.com/models/405256/kosa

[jaunty vortex]

Thanks

[jaunty vortex]

Handy

[nocturne cosmos]

are there any else model merge AID?

[floral mulch]

not sure

i'll try something

but aid is already comprehensive on its own

[floral mulch]

if anyone got some prompts to test with the latest stuff I'm trying let me know

[nocturne cosmos]

(by rella:1.2)

[floral mulch]

[open thunder]

anyone has the link?

to this model?

[jaunty vortex]

check pinned

[plucky dove]

New aidxl when

[floral mulch]

they did neta

which looks whatever imo but yea

[plucky dove]

i dont like how neta looks

[quartz elk]

https://civitai.com/models/435207/artiwaifu-diffusion?modelVersionId=484768

new AID

[heady echo]

woah
fresh out of the oven

@wide beacon @floral mulch

[floral mulch]

yeah getting it

[nocturne cosmos]

new aid?

[heady echo]

yesh

[nocturne cosmos]

[heady echo]

i'm using 25

it seems okay

[floral mulch]

so mcuh shit to merge now

[wide beacon]

Hmmm

[wide beacon]

One of the comments asked why they couldn’t reproduce the hitori slime and Euge said it’s Euler A + Hires fix with Dpm++ 2m

It’s even worse than you thought b74

Also the guy saying that no futa = drawback

[floral mulch]

💀

[jaunty vortex]

Looks like it's also an earlier epoch

[floral mulch]

2. What is the relationship between AWA and AIDXL: AWAv1.0 is AIDXLv1.0

[wide beacon]

Honestly not as bas as I first thought

[floral mulch]

I'M gonnam erge the comradeship merge of it

since it looks better in tests

[glass tulip]

@floral mulch you seen this ? https://civitai.com/models/402492?modelVersionId=489098
this guy tamed the pony

[wide beacon]

Can it do complex anatomy

from model page it can do lifted leg and feets

[glass tulip]

it did anything i through at it atm

it nails the hand and feet pretty much 90% of the time

95% even

[wide beacon]

does it still need score tags?

from model page it seems so

oh god it can do centaur

⁉️

[glass tulip]

yeah idk

without and with score

with score looks a lot better

[wide beacon]

yeah fixes clothes colors and stuff

Pony not tamed

[glass tulip]

the backgrounds are amazing

[wide beacon]

currently checking newly released SDXL models

there's one called MooMoo

I don't want to click on the censor

[jaunty vortex]

Says it's a merge ??

[glass tulip]

it says " DeliceXL: SDXL version of HadrianDelice based on ponyXL"

his Hadrian Delice is a sd1.5 checkpoint

[nocturne cosmos]

I think I prefer NetaXL over AWA.

Awa is quite bad

[floral mulch]

[floral mulch]

I'll tkae a look

[floral mulch]

left one holy

[floral mulch]

need to test some of the arti artists

[floral mulch]

need to find situations in which umbra loses, cuz other than missing knowledge I haven't had a comparison of the same shit where I preferred the other models over it, otherwise I'll just have to start finetuning

oh shit I havent tried extract loras

probably decent idea for adding new knowledge

seems like neta doesnt know daizu (melon-lemon)

gonna run through the names from the b74 post in arti

[nocturne cosmos]

there are still 2000 more but I don't have time to look at those today

[floral mulch]

too much to test

also wtf

cant even see the face

but seems like all of them can do it

I'm removing the left merge cuz its completely fried

[nocturne cosmos]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1237193225928704020/1237195923403051029/xyz_grid-0013-1668291027.png?ex=663cbe3e&is=663b6cbe&hm=a4cebfbee0b69423c4b054caf750aaa023532f4ad77e1280431d8158a5efa5ac&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=1520&height=428

that's why I post that one

[floral mulch]

1girl, ayanami \(azur lane\), azur lane, by coldcat, solo, white hoodie, rim lighting, best quality, masterpiece, absurdres

pretty clean

[wide beacon]

Second and fourth one are neat

[floral mulch]

typoing daipunch to daipunh

guess its like a base style? dunno

arti winner finally

[floral mulch]

dankmill instead of dangmill

btw "rim lighting" works well on aid models mostly, not neta tho

neta pretty clean on this

ok with some styles I can celarly see where they start appearing

dino

dismassd

do m kaeru

this ones def a w dr mice

[wide beacon]

Style transfer failed

[floral mulch]

havent tried style transfer yet, just random merge

tough without overshooting

and ending up with

although some kinda looks cool

but too far from origins

[wide beacon]

Should still keep it on hf

Use your test folder for once

[frail zealot]

i feel like at this point the cycle of imi is

"we fixed prompt space"

"nvm"

[wide beacon]

Private repo

[floral mulch]

its "fixed" on a bunch of models now

my main problem is still merging

I dont want to use pony

[frail zealot]

a lot of the weird collision spaces are still in pony

like the aua tags and such

[floral mulch]

did u try what patchouli linked

so fucking annoying

[frail zealot]

no im lazy

[floral mulch]

ok gonna find which tag causes it to fucking shit itself

every pony model

going through my prompt 1 by 1

[frail zealot]

ces is actually shit

as in

the ponyguy trained scat into his model (least derranged brony)

[floral mulch]

degen

[wide beacon]

Wtf

[floral mulch]

ok the models die

when I go above 75 tokens

or rather when I Write anything after BREAK

[frail zealot]

bronies be like:

[floral mulch]

can u confirm

[frail zealot]

i am okay after break on my shitmix

which is based on pd_for_anime_v1

[wide beacon]

Broken clip?

[floral mulch]

like write 71 tokens worth of prompt
BREAK
then rest but not higher than 150 combined

[frail zealot]

gimme ur prompt

[wide beacon]

You know Euge is using the clip transfer thing

[floral mulch]

1girl, 1boy, ayanami \(azur lane)\, azur lane, by quasarcake, standing on a dock at sunset while seagulls are flying, best quality, masterpiece, white trench coat, blush, closed mouth, outdoors, scarf, looking at viewer, perspective, (pov), simple background, hat BREAK (seaside resort:1.11), [beach], leaning forward, humming, half-closed eyes, best quality, masterpiece, absurdres

tried replacing almost ever tag

and still happens

if I remove the part after break it goes away

no shit after break vs full

@frail zealot

[frail zealot]

oh right

i pad

[floral mulch]

nah

its xyzt

being a broken

piece of garbage

poisons the loaded webui instance until restart

none of the models are 1:1 as they should be after the poisoning

cant be evaluated

so far this hadrian pony model seems pretty meh

pdfv2 and tponynaiv41 seem better

[floral mulch]

eh, just gonna try merging what I originally wanted

not arti

[wide beacon]

Kitarz just dopped a Kohaku Epsilon finetune
https://civitai.com/models/448552

[frail zealot]

I always thought Kohaku Epsilon produced kind of worse results than animagine 3.1...

[wide beacon]

Well who knows results might be cherry-picked

Can’t tell until we try

[jaunty vortex]

nice

[jaunty vortex]

umbra was the best sdxl model for coloring in my lineart in an aesthetic way

[floral mulch]

cuz of all the noise added probably

also changed contrast

[jaunty vortex]

worst one I tried was cosxl (undertrained model) vs umbra

[jaunty vortex]

the starry night epsilon model does ok at this too

[floral mulch]

cosxl reminds me of trash merges between animagine and pony

umbra noise ratio will add a lot of details

sometimes unneeded unasked for

I did like 4x noise on some layers

tbh I still enjoy that the most out of all the models i tried recently

I'm trying to merge some awa/pony merges into it now but so far it's not going that well

the model I last got is kionda bland

can look good but

maybe it's just the artist tags I spammed

[jaunty vortex]

It's a tradeoff, for a coloring model the noise is good bc it's easier to remove detail than add

"Bland" looks more like actual art ppl draw

[floral mulch]

sure

well

depends on the style I guess

[jaunty vortex]

eh yeah my style is more contrasted

[floral mulch]

yours looks nice

I like stuff that's not as smooth, it's just whenever I tried coloring it it was shit

especially witzh fill tools

but then I saw hacks like just rough layer and then you modify the color

and then u fix the out of bounds stuff easier later

I always just used to manually do the colors

[jaunty vortex]

I was thinking that it wouldn't be that hard to make a program that can take a psd file with lineart and color layers, then crop around objects with auto tagged prompting at high res + manual fixing prompts, call comfyui api with a lineart controlnet and then put that all back together

[floral mulch]

right, how is that controlnet from the other day

scribble

and saw 1 more type

[jaunty vortex]

mistoline

[floral mulch]

better than the other ones?

[jaunty vortex]

tbh I didn't really try other ones that much

I just heard sdxl controlnets are bad

[floral mulch]

I used to use them decently often on 1.5

it worked well with doodles

[jaunty vortex]

I would send you examples but it's nsfw 😂

[floral mulch]

[jaunty vortex]

cuz my friend asked me to draw her OC fucking kanae

[floral mulch]

thought those were both nijisanji vtubers on that pic

[jaunty vortex]

nah it's her self insert

she's really into kanae..

[floral mulch]

[jaunty vortex]

cute

[floral mulch]

thought this was ai

I like this brush even tho it feels like everyone uses it

[jaunty vortex]

I probably have it somewhere

[floral mulch]

brushy brushy

[jaunty vortex]

looks liek this

might be something else

I haven't tried the mistoline lineart preprocessor (anyline) might be pretty good

https://github.com/TheMistoAI/ComfyUI-Anyline

[floral mulch]

I downloaded it but

havnet tried yet

maybe Icn get back into drawing if it works well

since I'm tired of gennig with just prompts anyways

[jaunty vortex]

yeah

fun to see your art colored fast

[nocturne cosmos]

https://civitai.com/models/455392/controlnet-852ascribblexl?modelVersionId=507015

try this one out, its working well for me

[nocturne cosmos]

Can I use this one in auto1111 webui? nvm it doesn't support webui

[floral mulch]

https://github.com/TheMistoAI/MistoLine

[nocturne cosmos]

i dont want to use comfy

[floral mulch]

this is not comfy

[nocturne cosmos]

oh so that is only for the preprocessor?

[glass tulip]

i couldnt get the preprocess to work in comfyui either, i couldnt find it

[floral mulch]

cool

midle bottom one

[glass tulip]

it's really good so clean

[wide beacon]

This man is into oversized hoodies

[floral mulch]

💀

I wrote safe in umbra

to get non nsfw pics in dtg

and its generating safes

[glass tulip]

xD

accurate safes too

[floral mulch]

https://huggingface.co/Enferlain/218xl/resolve/main/test/bbwm-rotatetd11kosaani3ntdtpn4-comradeshipXL_v9-umbra_mecha.fp16-best-16bit.safetensors?download=true

can u try this too

[glass tulip]

i ll try it tomorrow it's getting quite late here, thanks

[floral mulch]

true

[heady echo]

new imi merge?

[floral mulch]

just messing around

I cant find any models that would be nice to merge

kinda bored atm

[glass tulip]

what about a lora with that model to fine tune it to a style instead of having to do the style weight juggling ?

[floral mulch]

ideally I want all of my favorite styles from aid

which none of them are replicable atm i animagin e models

in

almost none

and not to the same extente as aid

I'll try merging with my aid merges soon ish but not expecting great results

[jaunty vortex]

did you see https://civitai.com/models/448552

[floral mulch]

I think so

maybe forgot

gonna try it I guess

[jaunty vortex]

maybe some way to extract the style finetuning idk

[floral mulch]

I still think aid is the best

at least for styles

especially the ones before the noise issues

[nocturne cosmos]

yeah, all other models are not even close

[jaunty vortex]

maybe with merging and finetuning on top ?

[floral mulch]

every time I look back at my aid pics I'm like damn

I think finetuning is probably the way to go

I can probably use the same method kohaku did

but on a smaller scale

just dont like not being able to use my pc for other stuff

although I think it probably won't take much more than 14-15gb vram

[jaunty vortex]

can't watch yt

[floral mulch]

ccan still play stuff like hsr with 14gb vram use

[jaunty vortex]

I only have a 3060 so it really takes my whole pc

[floral mulch]

saj

I still remember when I had an amd card

could afford to use this one for more

[jaunty vortex]

AID has better colors than 3.0 but 3.1 is closer

[floral mulch]

also depends on which aid

pre animagine merge or post

[jaunty vortex]

0.51 AID

[floral mulch]

yeah that was the first good one

[jaunty vortex]

raw jumbled mess but the rendering is good

AID 5.1 + animagine 3.0 hires

AID 0.8 + animagine 3.1

another 5.1 + 3.0

there's good colors

[floral mulch]

Hmm

I don't want to go back to aid without the knowledge of animagine and pony

But I want the artstyles and prompting kinda

[glass tulip]

it's so good to inpaint

[floral mulch]

looks cool

doi the other samplers work on this?

[glass tulip]

i used a mix of euler A and dpmpp_2m_sde_gpu

inpainted only the eyes, rest is as is from #1179290821409910844 message

it's so clean

idk how you do it imi

[floral mulch]

can you do the same thing on a few other models?

I wanna see what the difference is

[glass tulip]

with pony bases ?

[floral mulch]

maybe

from what I've seen this merge looks a bit like failed merges between animagine and pony

like a lot of styles don't work