218 xl

[snow elk]

damn

i usually clean up my datasets but i didnt try any manga panels and shit

[floral mulch]

it's annoying

used photoshop autofill but thats still slow

I'll try firefly later maybe its better

[snow elk]

you should try remove tool instead of autofill

its like lama cleaner

[floral mulch]

where

[snow elk]

One sec

[floral mulch]

oh

I'll check next time

ty

[snow elk]

np

it has healing brush tool there and other stuff

but remove tool is just like lama cleaner

[wide frost]

1016 messages :o

[floral mulch]

we are chatting

[wide beacon]

wtf happened

[heady echo]

everything

[sleek ore]

If anyone finds this useful

[wide beacon]

by rolua by akizero
kinda generic style

[floral mulch]

kinda yea

[heady echo]

img2img kokakuxl and then img2img w 218

[floral mulch]

looks cool

[floral mulch]

loss keeps going up

oh I fucked it up

supposed to be 2 repeats

ok 64 32 32 16 batch 2 1024x uses 15gb vram

2s/it

[floral mulch]

ok this lora is shit, either .0002 te too high or the parameters

holy

and I trained it on the merge of aidxl

fuck

.6 beta just came out

[heady echo]

wait

beta out???

already

if only it wasn't midnight

[floral mulch]

says better than alpha but not as good as .52

[heady echo]

better is better
i wonder if it's same tier as .51

bc that was pretty good once merged

all of these w .51 merge

[wide beacon]

Yo

Very nice

[wide beacon]

Train LoRAs on SDXL1.0 itself

[floral mulch]

wanted to try it

[jaunty vortex]

AID XL updates faster than I try the models

[wide beacon]

Imagine if the dude got a cluster of A100 running

[jaunty vortex]

where do they get the money for this

[wide beacon]

China probably has different prices for compute

Linaqruf has Yodayo and Patreon money

And the other trainers on civitai have also too many patreons

SDv1 made them rich enough

[floral mulch]

Transmog 6 beta

[snow elk]

Wish I got rich too so I could help with training ><

Also probably bad idea to train on mixes , better on finetunes or base xl

[snow elk]

Linaqruf has patreon?

[wide beacon]

Maybe not patreon but they have a donation platform

[snow elk]

Yea I saw they have kofi

[wide beacon]

yeah

[snow elk]

I’m Honestly wondering what kind of compute the chinese dude has

[snow elk]

As for lynn im kinda disappointed he finetuned on Genshin and starrail

[wide beacon]

They may have put that info somewhere lemme see

You can tell them that on the degen- camen duru server

[snow elk]

Hm I’m not there xD Dunno what that server is

Feel free to give me a link if you have tho xD

[wide beacon]

it's the server of that dude that made the most popular colab notebook

[snow elk]

Ah okay

I think I found it

[wide beacon]

it's really not a good server

and I'm fearful that it may get banned soon enough which could put a warning on my account

[snow elk]

Damn

Well I guess the more servers I am at for ai the better

Also I’m not sure what to say to lynn

[wide beacon]

You can talk about your concern with training mainly on gacha stuff

[snow elk]

Well Uh gacha on it’s own is fine there is a ton of good art there but focussing on mihoyo is definetely not a good idea

[wide beacon]

They seem to be doing Grandblue Fantasy too for the next version

[snow elk]

Okay we’re heading to better direction

[wide beacon]

The only good thing about camen server is that you can check on Lynn's progress

[snow elk]

Yeah that’s nice

What compute does lynn have at the moment btw?

[wide beacon]

runpod A100 or H100 I think?

[snow elk]

Nice

[wide beacon]

okay scroll up a bit and I think 2xA100

[snow elk]

I see

i have no clue what to call this piece

[wide beacon]

time to look at the dictionary

[snow elk]

hah

[heady echo]

ask chatgpt to name it

[heady echo]

ultimate comparison time

v51, v52, v51 merge
v6 beta merge, imi merge, v6beta

this might be a bad prompt though

[heady echo]

now i'm generating a x graph for the 50 green artists
but it might take a bit

i'll also upload the merge if anyone wants to try it for fun (nothing special used the stable diffusion built in merger)
~~and bc i have work today and won't be able to do it later ~~

[floral mulch]

I like .6 beta merge and .52

[heady echo]

i think the 'patchwork' word in the prompt prob was a bad idea

wait is it my imagination or do they all look similar

.

[heady echo]

this civitai post showcases a lot of styles available for the v6 https://civitai.com/images/4371606

by bebefate,

by teketo,

by snhiyori,

by otenkiya,

by gyoku,

by goldcan,

by ask,

[floral mulch]

but at least it looks different

the reason they look the same is cuz its the same dataset

other than when he adds new artists

[heady echo]

by ningen mame,

[heady echo]

ah

same seed + exactly same prompt + same dataset

= similarity

[floral mulch]

who dis

[heady echo]

by bebefate,

[floral mulch]

cool

I saw mignon was green so wont need to train for that

[heady echo]

clean style, by antifreeze3,

animeillust creator giving us too many options

by glutton,

by buerq,

@wide beacon

[frail zealot]

energy prices are pretty cheap in Mongolia. Lotta dudes were mining crypto there before China banned it

[floral mulch]

they also have repurposed gpus and shit

[frail zealot]

Well those are actually pretty inefficient for training

[floral mulch]

maybe they glue like 10 together

[frail zealot]

Oh that's good I like the eyes especially

[floral mulch]

not quite there yet tho

but kinda close

not bad

[jaunty vortex]

Zumizumi

[frail zealot]

HOLY SHIT WE FKEY NOW

[floral mulch]

thats not a gen

[heady echo]

so pretty

this is w the model
does it even look fkey

now using pure v6beta

[snow elk]

The problem with v6 beta is that a lot of time anatomy is all over the place , at least as far as I tested

[floral mulch]

yes kinda

[floral mulch]

been a recurring thing for me in prev versions too but maybe not as much

[heady echo]

omg so cute

[floral mulch]

lot weaker than the pure one u sent

[heady echo]

i feel it looks closer to the original

fkey

[floral mulch]

this one looks prety close

as109 doesnt work at all

for me at least

can u try that and mignon

[heady echo]

last gen i need to work again

i'll do it during next break

[floral mulch]

alright

cute

[heady echo]

okay maybe this one is too much
like not rly
but maybe

[floral mulch]

which

nah it was fine

[heady echo]

oh that gen i posted

[floral mulch]

what artist

[heady echo]

oh

hmm must be in the meta data
i think "by goldcan"

[floral mulch]

[heady echo]

i also added ulzzang
idk how much it helps though

[floral mulch]

jesus

[snow elk]

Oh Damn interesting spike

What graph is it

[floral mulch]

just shows the average score of each iteration

[snow elk]

Ah that’s from the bayesian process?

[floral mulch]

ye

[heady echo]

[snow elk]

I tried to understand how it works but im not exactly sure how to set it up and Shit xF

But I probably don’t have any need of it

[floral mulch]

its al lwritten down on the github page if u ever feel like trying again

• some in #1064802771716554792 when I complained about shit not working

might have killed too much of the style

first try might be fail

not always tho

I guess sthats why fkey is red (not trained well)

[snow elk]

on the github page of bayesian process?

[floral mulch]

bit better

yeah all the steps are there

rest you can ask from bing/chatgpt

thats what I did a tleast

[jaunty vortex]

I want to try it too

[floral mulch]

especially for errors

try it

[snow elk]

I could but im not exactly sure what i would do with it

[floral mulch]

rella ziyun is pretty nice

rella anything, shes good at lighting

[snow elk]

how does animeillustdiff handles multiple angles?

[floral mulch]

in one image?

[snow elk]

yes

i feel like nai will die on me if i try to make it learn this style

[floral mulch]

got an example?

[snow elk]

ye ye im looking

this is not the one but pretty

[floral mulch]

yea looks sick

[snow elk]

i will have a lot of cleanup work but im willing

[snow elk]

niceu

that is good

can it do swords and weapons in general?

[floral mulch]

hm

uhhh

[floral mulch]

but hey it looks cool

[snow elk]

cute kinda

[snow elk]

hmm yea

[floral mulch]

uhh

[snow elk]

hmm maybe it will be good enough

i think if i put this into nai it will be like

nope

[floral mulch]

[snow elk]

i might have to split this into 2 loras

[floral mulch]

holding stuff not going too well

at least wweapons

[snow elk]

cuz the styles are different

yeah well same for sd

[floral mulch]

or not in landscape and multiple views at least

but its fun to do

[snow elk]

mhm

[snow elk]

i love doing weapons

[floral mulch]

seems like just weapons themselves are nicer than I had in 1.5

[snow elk]

do they have meta?

[floral mulch]

like these

[snow elk]

i have some good weapons occasionally

close to perfection on 1.5

but its my watercolour lora carrying

it has good weapons occasionally

would be sick af on xl if we had a model to train on easily

[floral mulch]

apparently scythe=shovel

[snow elk]

lmao

[snow elk]

not surprised

poor guy training alone

[wide beacon]

yeah there's not enough quality tags and variety in the dateset

[snow elk]

ye

but like if i try on nai i will get poor results i feel like

its too damn intricate

[wide beacon]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[floral mulch]

ok rella and ziyun together are pog

glad I randomly decide to try it

and I'm happy with how the merge looks from today

last one

[wide beacon]

try by sannso by caaaaarrot

[floral mulch]

okey

[wide beacon]

and by sho by dsmile9

[floral mulch]

good ass combinations

[snow elk]

how does it look?

[floral mulch]

good af

[snow elk]

kek

show

[floral mulch]

holy fuck

[snow elk]

ummm

aight

[wide beacon]

ye I'm just that good

[snow elk]

pog

some combinations for medium/large booba? 👀

oh nyo

only loli enjoyers i see

[wide beacon]

just find the milf artists in the list

[snow elk]

yeah i found some already

i dont mind both

just was curious if you found some nice combinations

I believe in duality kek

https://www.pixiv.net/en/users/3981719

i wanna try this artist on the finetune , maybe i can get something good cooked

its heavily stylized and just straight up epic

[wide beacon]

I prefer medium and flat

[snow elk]

based

[wide beacon]

model can do medium on most artists

[snow elk]

thats pretty good

do you do any nsfw or just sfw aha?

[wide beacon]

just wholesome

[snow elk]

noice

[floral mulch]

bruh

Im triyng to do futuristic egypt but its struggling

maybe need more steps

[snow elk]

shit

or better understanding

hmm any sci fi artists in the model?

[heady echo]

by as109 @floral mulch

[floral mulch]

ehhh

yeah saw since then

it looks okayish here but not really that similar to the sauce and scuffed bg I think

[snow elk]

true

[floral mulch]

I'll upload the merge from today to hf

[snow elk]

the guy probably struggles with compute

[floral mulch]

tmrw I'll do 1 more thing

he updated pretty fast tho

[snow elk]

yeah

[floral mulch]

u can do this stuff even on 1 a100 I think

ok maybe 2

[snow elk]

yeah defo

[floral mulch]

[snow elk]

but this is just much much longer

[floral mulch]

yeah

I'd like to try it if i had money to spend but

[snow elk]

same here bro

[floral mulch]

my issue is the experimenting and settings gpart

sounds annoying

[snow elk]

yes

and even classifying images

the whole dataset preparing

[heady echo]

by mignon

[snow elk]

im afraid that even if i have the compute the whole dataset prep will be too much

[wide beacon]

What we would need to do is scrape all of danbooru with the right tags

[floral mulch]

nmaybe by next year there will be more tools

better scoring methods

etc

[snow elk]

yeah or you could tag them with a script but this would take some time xd

[snow elk]

i hope so

[floral mulch]

last year december was scuffed compared to now

[snow elk]

ye ye

[jaunty vortex]

if you give him cleaned up datasets for a good artist I'd assume he'd probably train it in the next release

less work for him

[floral mulch]

maybe I'll do that

[snow elk]

oooh

youre damn right

i could give him too

we should make contact kek

hmm that kinda sounded like encountering alien lifeforms lmao

[floral mulch]

ok I did hires fix latent nearest exact with restart sampler, before the restart it looked perfect, after it looks ruined, what do

change sampler I guess

restart

[snow elk]

well retsrat might be too much with latent nearest exact

another factor is denosiing

[floral mulch]

wanted to see how much detail I'd get

[snow elk]

fair

its easy to overdetail nowadays

[floral mulch]

2m not as good fingers as restart was before restart

2m

[snow elk]

interesting

[floral mulch]

alright if anyone wanna try the beta merge

https://huggingface.co/Enferlain/218xl/tree/main/test

the txt is the wildcards for the new artists

[snow elk]

oke

ill try later if i dont pass out kek

[floral mulch]

sleep schedule

= dog

[snow elk]

yessir

there's two of us

[heady echo]

Style merging: The stylization effect of trigger words can merge with each other to produce new styles. For example, [by A | by B | by C]. However, directly connection, such as by A, by B, by A and B, or by A and by B is unable to take effect and only the first triggered style will take effect."

[sleek ore]

have you guys not been using [ | ] with multiple artists?

[heady echo]

no i used to put by x by y so it had no effect so i stopped

👀

[floral mulch]

I think he's wrong about this even though it's his own model, by x, by z definitely worked for me

[heady echo]

oh

he could have been wrong

or just meant it was intended to be used w [ | ]

[floral mulch]

Sent a ton of pics like that in the past few hours as well

I tried that but didn't like the results I got at the time so just stuck with comma

I'll try later

[heady echo]

[floral mulch]

Also I tried merging the tokens directly and that did something too

But i didn't test it much

Just fucked around

Like rellagm etc

Also there is iwzry I typod his name and it still kinda gave his artstyle unless I'm completely tripping

[snow elk]

yeah it also worked for me separating artists by comma

he might be tripping maybe hes sleep schedule also dog

[floral mulch]

Yes probably

Go to sleep lul

[snow elk]

hahah i will just gonna put the model in the oven

its kinda scuffed cuz i intended to nap and my nap changed to a 6 hour sleep earlier so im not sleepy ;-;

from like 4pm to 10 pm

[floral mulch]

I'll start fixing it now

No kapp

TMRW gonna sleep before 3 am

[snow elk]

same

i fixed it yesterday and broke today kek

[floral mulch]

Unlicky

[snow elk]

hard to get rid of dog

[snow elk]

bober

[floral mulch]

@wide beacon

[wide beacon]

[jaunty vortex]

Putting a bunch of artist names does stuff, idk if it looks like a merge of their styles but you can get ok results

[wide beacon]

Yeah he's wrong but no one is the master of their creations

Or it could also be a translation error

[wide beacon]

@floral mulch #commands message the glitter

[untold oriole]

bruh 💀
||you can ping them here /jk||

oh already ^

XD

[wide beacon]

never ask what doing this cost me

[heady echo]

[heady echo]

lmao

[heady echo]

welcome to the thread dhruv

[untold oriole]

real very xl

[heady echo]

someone posted this to civitai and it looks so perf

[untold oriole]

yes

true

[heady echo]

[floral mulch]

[heady echo]

okay idk if it's a placeboo but this lineart lora

without the lineart lora

[floral mulch]

Wow this one is nice

What lora

[heady echo]

the 2 loras seem to help

this is w no loras

let me link both of them
i put them at strenght 1

https://civitai.com/models/131706/breakcore-style?modelVersionId=144786
https://civitai.com/models/169170/xl-outline?modelVersionId=190141

by akizero, 1girl alternate_costume closed_mouth flower hair_between_eyes long_hair official_alternate_costume red_eyes red_flower rose simple_background solo suit vampire white_background

[floral mulch]

I donbt think I'll merge them in but its cool

have u checked the merge from yday

[heady echo]

oh ye i need to try

okay this is w 218xl

[heady echo]

just to try as loras separately

okay gonna try this prompt w diff artists

by goldcan

by neg101

[floral mulch]

that prompt is really nice

have u been trying the new artists?

[heady echo]

sure let me try

i did try some yesterday but not on the new merge

i also have the x graph

[floral mulch]

try this by sho, by dsmile9 and by sannso, by caaaaarrot, and by rella, by ziyun

[heady echo]

should prob turn off the loras
but i'll leave them on for now

[floral mulch]

funnest part is combining artist

[heady echo]

[floral mulch]

like rella has nice lighting so when u combine it it gives nice results

[heady echo]

combine all 6

by snhiyori

by sho

by sannso

by caaaaarrot

by rella

by ziyun

[floral mulch]

classic

[heady echo]

[floral mulch]

oh I meant

try them combined

2 2 2

[floral mulch]

like that

[heady echo]

okay they are all in queue

i accidentally did by sho, by dsmile9 and by sannso, by caaaaarrot, and by rella, by ziyun

by sho, by dsmile9

by sannso, by caaaaarrot

by rella, by ziyun

[floral mulch]

so nice

love these combos

first 2 is from aha

[heady echo]

https://safebooru.donmai.us/posts?tags=elina_(e2n04n)

[floral mulch]

cool style

[heady echo]

found while trying to find tags to prompt

[floral mulch]

I thought the merge went okay, but I didn't test all the new artists and if they worked decently

[heady echo]

i think there's 100 new ones

[floral mulch]

[floral mulch]

I swear hires fix makes images worse on these models

sometimes at least

if it's denoise ur used to from 1.5 or other models

[wide beacon]

Heads up it’s using a LoRA

[heady echo]

yepp

the devil one

i think

so then it inspired me to try loras as well

[floral mulch]

which lora?

[wide beacon]

Check meta on civit

Pretty sure the dude uses civitai image gen

[floral mulch]

got it

[wide beacon]

merge the outline one imo

[floral mulch]

nah dont wanna change the base styles too much

merges already change it

and I havent tried it

[wide beacon]

it seemed to help a bit

like merge at 0.3 similar to the lora you trained

[floral mulch]

gonna try it

[wide beacon]

@floral mulch Have Blue Archive char lora for SDXL
https://civitai.com/user/kitarz/models

[floral mulch]

Nice, seems like they have almost all of them

I waited one hour for the rotate shit and it errored out at the also 20 steps

Go agane tmrw

[wide beacon]

lmao

goodnight imi

[heady echo]

oh nice

oh it worked

[floral mulch]

if u hav etime sometime can u put some more pics on the civit page, all of the ones I put are similar

[heady echo]

oh sure
i forgot to update my civitai in so long

upload them all individually so they are all showcased

[floral mulch]

[heady echo]

renaming everything

might take a few more minutes

nvm that failed
upload time

[floral mulch]

wtf

[heady echo]

hmm ?

[floral mulch]

renaming to what

[heady echo]

output

idk i was thinking of naming the file names w the artist from now on

totally did not spam imi's civitai page w like 20 new images

😇

[floral mulch]

[floral mulch]

https://civitai.com/models/118406 bruh I just got done

[heady echo]

does it work

[floral mulch]

dunno but its counterfeit so

oh can u check if these work in the tete model I asked you to try? if u have time sometime

`masterpiece: Beautifully and intricately drawn illustrations.

cinematic style: Stunning illustrations with detailed backgrounds and lighting.

aesthetic style: Illustrations featuring beautiful color schemes.

cute style: Cute.

flat color: Illustrations with strong lines and a minimal color palette.

anime style: Anime.

comic style: Illustrations characterized by bold color choices and abstract representations.`

counterfeit 2+ has style tags like these

[heady echo]

surez

base image

oh i should prob remove the artist

1girl :d ahoge blonde_hair blue_dress blue_ribbon brown_eyes collared_dress day dress feet_out_of_frame field flower flower_field frilled_sleeves frills green_ribbon hair_tubes long_hair looking_at_viewer

[floral mulch]

no artist is already cute

[heady echo]

masterpiece: Beautifully and intricately drawn illustrations.

[floral mulch]

oh

only do the before :

the after is just the description

[heady echo]

oh

[floral mulch]

so masterpiece etc

[heady echo]

ah

okay that makes a lot more sense lol

masterpiece

cinematic style

aesthetic style

cute style

[floral mulch]

doesnt seem to have that much of an impact

[heady echo]

flat color

anime style

[floral mulch]

thanks

maybe it works better in 2.5

I'd need to check

[heady echo]

comic style

[heady echo]

no problem

ye the tags don't seen to be changing much

[floral mulch]

dogecry

[heady echo]

this artist mix is clean wth

[floral mulch]

cute

very nice outlines too

oh I like limuli ceey

[heady echo]

by limuli ceey, by glutton, by poire

[jaunty vortex]

I'll try counterfeit 2.5

[floral mulch]

frist image from neuron rotation merge

[heady echo]

omg awesome

[floral mulch]

I'm merging 218xl and tete, so reproductionxl87xcounterfeit1.0xaid52 x reproductionv2xcounterfeit2xaid62beta

[wide beacon]

[floral mulch]

gonna take 8 hours but I'Ll sleep so prob15 or so

its for fun

[wide beacon]

https://civitai.com/models/144327

[jaunty vortex]

Merge looks good

[heady echo]

ig it's time to start finishing my nurse y graph
cuz i forgot to finish it
and it was missing a lot
just use the same model i was using then for consistency

oh ig someone on civitai posted a full excell file w every single example

[floral mulch]

Yes, it's neg emb for the upcoming AIDXLv0.6 release. It has less impact on the original style of the model than v0.5.

[sleek ore]

wildcard list variant - alphabetized
ie use with dynamic prompts {__aid-artists__|__aid-artists__}

[floral mulch]

did anyone try the new embed yet if its alright

[frail zealot]

is this unedited? wow

wait this isn't an ai gen i'm stupid

[floral mulch]

I thought it was

I think the rurudo looking pic in ai art is not gen either

if iti s its a copy pasta gen which is pointless

[heady echo]

it doesn't look good w v52

but it works for v6 beta

[floral mulch]

really

I'll have to test how the merge does when I'm done

[heady echo]

well i only tried w one prompt

[floral mulch]

you'vebeen using jug right

jug deeez

[heady echo]

the hand was messed up

oh

i switched to hk

[floral mulch]

hk?

[heady echo]

inaesthetic hk

un

[floral mulch]

sky?

[heady echo]

its on the same page as sky and jug

[floral mulch]

aiy yiy or whateverthefuck

that one is pretty strong

9 times weaker neg tho

interesting

soem styles are already overwhelming

[heady echo]

https://civitai.com/models/119032/unaestheticxl-or-negative-ti?modelVersionId=245812

does it actually work though

[floral mulch]

oh iots new

in the example showcaws

I prefer the colors of sky

I like less strong colors I guess

but sky was already pretty strong tbh

this seems even stronger

[heady echo]

[floral mulch]

inbreeding model

[floral mulch]

fuck

I shouldve done the other way around

the style got weaker than I wanted in this direction

[floral mulch]

gonna have toredo this

[heady echo]

[floral mulch]

but I'll check if all the artists work first

170 oof

[heady echo]

so many 🥲🥲

[floral mulch]

yeah

ok confirmed that I killed aidv62

but I Know what to do

old tags kinda an improvement tho

[heady echo]

[jaunty vortex]

Cute

[floral mulch]

new artist tags dont do jackshit

for this result

so thats a fail

[floral mulch]

https://civitai.com/models/124189?modelVersionId=266214

FUCK v6 is out

I didnt even finish doing my shit with beta

[wide beacon]

[floral mulch]

Hundreds of new painting styles have been added.

I spent a lot of time and money trying new training parameters and training strategies. Here are some developments:

(i) I developed a simple and unique model fusion algorithm to stabilize model composition, and applied it to the production of v0.52 and v0.6 versions;

(ii) I developed a training strategy to solve problems such as data imbalance in multi-category data training, you can find details about it in the English part of the model introduction;

[tidal junco]

what a nice guy

I like how it's both styles and characters

[wide beacon]

The most based Chinese dude ever

[heady echo]

omg hype

if only i didn't have work all day

ig could use stableswarm and gen on phone

[wide beacon]

If only I was home today

[heady echo]

animeillust creator rly be dropping updates too quickly

[wide beacon]

He did say that he spent a lot of money

[heady echo]

he bought a a100 or smthing

for this

[floral mulch]

how mcuh does one cost

like 6?

k

[wide beacon]

Was around 2-4k iirc

[floral mulch]

what

thats less than a 4090

[wide beacon]

It can’t play games

[floral mulch]

who the fuck plays games

[wide beacon]

You?

[floral mulch]

no

[wide beacon]

Blob?

[heady echo]

i own games but never play them

[floral mulch]

why isthe dpo model 10gb and cant be pruned

[wide beacon]

Have no idea

[floral mulch]

cuz its diffusers

[wide beacon]

Pretty sure the model is only unet

[wide beacon]

Doesn’t explain anything tho

[floral mulch]

whateva

[wide beacon]

Just convert to ldm

[wide beacon]

Also dumbass Huggingface stan

[frail zealot]

Probably more because you have to buy them off the black market in china

[floral mulch]

if u want me to try any artist

@heady echo @wide beacon nodders

v6 seems weaker?

but maybe thats why he weakened the embed

tete clears this

[wide beacon]

Try mixing Tete and 0.6

[floral mulch]

tete is .06

just beta

I need to test the new artists

[wide beacon]

It’s still a bayesian mbw merge that is more consistent

[floral mulch]

I think beta might be better than full release, dunno what he did inbetween

[heady echo]

by bebefate,

[floral mulch]

mignon - tete

[heady echo]

[floral mulch]

which one looks like it

[heady echo]

3 middle ones ig
idk what the original artist looks like though

[floral mulch]

yep

any others?

[heady echo]

by goldcan

[heady echo]

by antifreeze3 looks cool

not my gen

[wide beacon]

German eyes

[heady echo]

by shino sto

i put gun in the prompt but no gun though

oh nvm my prompt was messed up

[floral mulch]

v6 has char tags

[heady echo]

char tags ?

[floral mulch]

ye

[heady echo]

niceo

by rima

maybe should remoev that outline lora lol

no outline lora

[frail zealot]

Is tete the pre release vrr

[wide beacon]

Just an experiment from a few days ago

[wide beacon]

What was the weight

[floral mulch]

merge with beta version of last aid

[heady echo]

weight 2

[wide beacon]

Mygod

[heady echo]

it's so good

[floral mulch]

rima

lmao

all different

rella ziyun

[wide beacon]

My combination’s are just that gud

[floral mulch]

he doesnt know u lil bro

[heady echo]

why is everything i'm genning so clean

like idk

v6 vs 217

i love it though

by tenoimu

[floral mulch]

cute

[heady echo]

by iamuu

[heady echo]

by yu2maru

[wide beacon]

wait there's iamuu_n ?

[heady echo]

i guess so

the artists in the red section seem to be more interesting than the ones in the green section

[wide beacon]

try prompting Genshin characters

[heady echo]

tomorrow

[wide beacon]

bruh

@floral mulch are you free for some music?

[heady echo]

i need to sleep so i can work for 8 hours again

[wide beacon]

[wide beacon]

imi died

no vc

[heady echo]

[wide beacon]

[sleek ore]

genshin 💀

[heady echo]

aha told me to

idk i never played it

[sleek ore]

has become cringe since they never did anything with it

each patch I slowly stopped playing, then they just kept doing the stuff I didn't like so it's dead now

[heady echo]

😔

[floral mulch]

genshit

[tidal junco]

best gambling game out there

[floral mulch]

eh

u get the same 4 characters

with different christmas ornaments

[wide beacon]

To test the tags since he trained the characters

[wide beacon]

Ah yes the game where you either pull a character or 2 star weapons

[floral mulch]

I'll do one more day of merging after that I'm doing 218 ahn after that I'm trying finetune after that I'm doing loras

Wtf???? Why is there so much shit to do

[snow elk]

Not even close to best , I’d say best is arknights

There is no gameplay in Genshin , plus gacha is very scummy

[floral mulch]

Atknights is the game you play during your preparation for the overnight stay at the zoo

Gacha frogs when someone tells them there are no good gacha games 🫵

(Other than blur archive)

And Al I guess

[wide beacon]

Gacha frogs when someone tells them that Blue Archive isn't good

And Al I guess

[snow elk]

Coomer lane is also good but I got bored of it after playing pretty long

Arknights has both gameplay and great characters

Al has characters and lewd skins

Blue archive got good characters , gameplay was boring to me too

Fgo has very bad rates but story , characters are awesome , gameplay is repeating but managable i guess if you can stay for the chars and story

Limbus company is a great niche gacha but they don’t do much to keep it alive ;-; it’s a shame really , their past games are also amazing af , lobotomy corporation and library of ruina

[floral mulch]

You play shit games

[wide beacon]

Imagine saying that when you play Gacha

[floral mulch]

The only thing that matters in gachas us char design and how easy it is to get them

Uve been moaning about reverse for months

So I guess unlucky

[wide beacon]

Lmao

[wide beacon]

imi you do know that you call out gacha players but exclude some games just because you like them?

[floral mulch]

Not all of them are made equal

I can call out gacha players because I tried all of them

Spoiler alert

[wide beacon]

No you didn't

[floral mulch]

Most are shit

Yeah I didn't try the ones that look the same as the one that came before eot

What makes a good gacha game:

You don't have to play it

[wide beacon]

I feel bad for you

[floral mulch]

Do you play games as a job?

I think I kinda did that when I was 16

Eventually you play enough where you only care about having fun and won't spend time on stuff if they aren't

[wide beacon]

No?

[floral mulch]

Then stop being a bitch

[wide beacon]

what?!

[wide beacon]

You literally said this

[floral mulch]

And it was true

My ducking god stfu

[wide beacon]

imi hold on

are you ok?

[floral mulch]

Not everything has to be an argument for your adhd brain

It's 8 fucking am and I'm I'm bed

Fuck you

[wide beacon]

what the hell

Let's recap
You say every gacha games are bad except BA and AL
I include them back with my comment
and you tell me that I play shit games

I didn't say at any moment that Reverse was good here btw

I'm just confused by why would you be triggered by that

[snow elk]

Kinda weird take also liking al but not arknights

But aight

I do agree tho majority of gacha is shit

[untold oriole]

cute

[untold oriole]

great

[lucid crag]

imi, I greatly enjoy the 218xl model and I'm grateful that you made it.

[untold oriole]

oh god
i can just fork lynn's demo and then run imi's model in colab?
and i didnt even think about that?

noway

[wide beacon]

[heady echo]

it's gen time ?

[untold oriole]

i forgot
will try to configure tomorrow

[heady echo]

[past crater]

good thinking

wish u da bess

[untold oriole]

real

[floral mulch]

I have a fairly simple outlook on what makes a good gacha game

do you get fucked when rolling for a character you want? Yes=shit game, no=good game

gachas are all about characters

if you can't even reasonably get them

then there's no point

just because both are published by yostar it doesn't mean both are the same

which is why genshin is not even near the bottom of the list

even though it's boring as fuck

btw in blue archive I have 86k gems and I have rolled for every single char I wanted so far (and got them)

86k gems is enough for 700 rolls

meanwhile in arknights I was for pretty much the entirety of the game even when I spent like 200 bucks

dual rateup banners are aids

[floral mulch]

you can't talk about games you have never played, and you're new to gachas anyways

so you can't have a valid opinion

[wide beacon]

[floral mulch]

people like us have seen how shit they are and have more ground to stand on other than "lol gacha sucks" from reading it from other people

[wide beacon]

imi imi

You missed my point entirely

[floral mulch]

[wide beacon]

Read this

[floral mulch]

semantics are rtarded as an argument

[wide beacon]

What the fuck imi

You missed the point again

[floral mulch]

no it's just dumb, I don't think gacha games are inherently shit, they just exist in a shit way most of the time

so gacha games are shit

because its true

if you take 50 gacha games

I'm not gonna find more than 5 that are good

that ratio is

shit

[wide beacon]

[floral mulch]

like I eat meat, but if the majroity of options was like beef, I'd say meat sucks even though I liked chicken

holy

v6 struggles hard without a specific prompt

best quality, aesthetic, detailed, by fkey, solo, 1girl, young girl

[floral mulch]

but the important parts are from aid so be thankful to the chinese guy that madei t

[snow elk]

i agree with you

genshin isnt from yostar nani

[floral mulch]

nah I just brought it up cuz a lot of ppl think it has a bad gacha

but it's far from the worst

[snow elk]

true that

[floral mulch]

also I get that in arknights a lot of ppl don't care about limited characters and there aren't that many of them anyways etc but still, if I wanted a limited char I'd be almost always getting fucked unless I saved for months

at least that was how it was when I still played during the first year

like

just make skins buyable and make money on that

[snow elk]

nah its really generous system if you spend responsibly and dont roll on every single banner , tho having a monthly does help saving

but well if you played since day 1 rn you would have much easier time saving

[floral mulch]

pretty sure you'd need something dumb like 3+ months of saving up to hit pity on limited banners

unless they changed the system

[snow elk]

yeah pity is high but usually you dont need to hit pity

most of the time pity is there so you can get units you missed on

every time i had to pity was for the limited units i was missing cuz i didnt play back then

[floral mulch]

you need pity if the banner has 2 6 stars

[snow elk]

nah

[floral mulch]

yah

[snow elk]

also keep in mind only one is limited

[floral mulch]

yeah thats the issue

I want the limited one but keep fucking getting the other one

cuz the system sucks

[snow elk]

like i said i never had to pity for the limited on banner and usually get both of 6 stars

[floral mulch]

imagine getting this hoe 4 times in a row when you're rolling for the othe rchar

holy fuck

[snow elk]

the soft pity for 6 star is 60 rolls

[floral mulch]

I'm triggered

[snow elk]

this hoe is beyond broken

XD

also did you see her on e2?

[floral mulch]

yes

but thats e2

[snow elk]

its juggernaut archetype

nah she has no mask on

[floral mulch]

https://tenor.com/view/mask-face-mask-off-take-off-your-mask-mask-on-gif-15225552

[snow elk]

Xd

this is e2 bro

[floral mulch]

yeah I've seen it

I mean I've seen art of the char

[snow elk]

but yea either way she is broken af

[floral mulch]

but doesnt change the fact that I wasn't fucking rolling for her

[snow elk]

fair

i get the feeling

[floral mulch]

that's about it

[snow elk]

ling banner for example , 5 lees

3 lings

[floral mulch]

[snow elk]

300 pulls

cuz waifu

oh and nian spark right

[wide beacon]

This post is 2k messages about gacha

[floral mulch]

[snow elk]

yessir

but yea i think overall the gacha in arknights is generous

and as you get more 5 star dupes you will find yourself saving very easily

as you will be getting more gold certs

[floral mulch]

I get the feeling that it's great if you don't particularly care about specific chars

[snow elk]

nah you can care

i got everything i wanted so far

[floral mulch]

guess I just got unlucky

[snow elk]

nah its not even that , i dont remember what the state of the game was but usually you roll on normal banners when you want a character , the pity also carries over so you can plan ahead and the rest goes for limited banners

tete-218xl is mix between tete and 218xl?

[floral mulch]

dunno man, during the first year it feels like everyone was broke, or maybe it was just me but I did everything and I still barely even saved up rolls when I didn't roll for shit

like I Got to like 100 rolls from the pity

maybe

and I bought out everything

[floral mulch]

ye