#D&D Collaboration event as a whole.

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digital juniper
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Hey, here are my main concerns:

This event was announced in quite an epic way, suggesting a proper Campaign that would make us work with Drizzt Do'Urden, one of the best (if not best) swordmasters in Forgotten Realms. Contrary to Utior, Drizzt is an actual character, who exists in some of our favourite books, that we know is very powerful and brings childhood memories back to our grey beards and bald heads. That's where my 1st issue appears, this campaign felt really short and insignificant, i would call it a minor side quest, that was extremely easy to complete and made everybody just roll through it to the hit a microtransaction wall. This felt extremely cheap and unfair, playing on emotions and pp's memories, i have to say i did expect more from a company that thus far felt really honest and listened to our suggestions. I am not a whale but i managed to collect 65 dice before the event started, saving everything i obtained by just playing the game consistenly, buying the battlepass and the two 30 day buffs. I feel like spending this amount of money is fair and i do also feel like the rewards are adequate and i'm not gonna complain about it. I also think that the amount of dice in the game is ok, but the event exploits accounts like mine, i feel cheated by rolling 35 of them to obtain a rare-grade hero.

Drizzt is underpowered and doesn't even have a niche for himself. It's extremely hard to fit him in any lineup because he's subpar to rare heroes. Survivability is low, in most comps having an extra character (his panther) next to another hero actually hurts you, because of debuffs that hit targets that stand next to eachother, and then the dmg potential, even with panther being alive isn't on the level of other legendaries that have good utility on top of it and stay safe behind tanks. It begs the question, did anybody test this legendary hero? If so, how could you allow this?

I love your game, give us events worth playing with honest, fair rewards, not this.

deep otter
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As a fellow Drizzt owner, I agree with you in that Drizzt doesn't seem like an OP legendary DPS unit. But I think that is actually better in the long run for game balance and for F2P or light spenders.

Imagine if every collab unit is OP; F2P or light spenders will struggle to acquire them while whales go on to 5-inspiration them. Collab units being balanced is a better design in the long run imhoNM_peepoBigSmile

digital juniper
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I never said, he's not OP, i said he is subpar to a rare hero. That's a world of a difference. They announced him as if he was OP tho, which is a misleading when he get's outdps'd by Usha, and the devs must have knew it as they have similiar kits and attack animations, with Drizzt having no shields on top of the lower dmg he does.

At this moment it looks like they knew he is worse, so people would spend money on unlocking his inspirations where he would have been a lot better than Usha. So first, "go spend money to summon a hero" and then "go spend money to make him not useless", and since a lot of ppl invested in summoning him it is a predatory tactic to dig into the wallet even deeper.

edgy pine
deep otter
edgy pine
solemn birch
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I would have better legendaries and artifacts when I choose not to pull drizzt out.I want my money worth paying. This is why I’m here to complain his pathetic strength

edgy pine
solemn birch
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And Drizzt

He is even worse than Auster, and he’s melee that can’t hop into backline

Bruh level max

edgy pine
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Krakens and Whales don't care!!! They have tons of heroes in inspiration 5. We, low spenders, medium spenders, even free to play players could have saved 20 dice, like I did, I saved for 2 weeks all the wyrmarrow I got and was prepared for the event. We need him to be strong to have something good on our accounts. Now we don't care, as it is a fail hero, krakens and whales didn't care to start with, so no one cares 😄

solemn birch
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His multiplier is too terrible that I only want him auto atk

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Even whales don’t want to pull, at least how it is in Chinese channel

edgy pine
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you are chinese?

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I mean what are you doing in Chinese channel? 🙂

solemn birch
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Most of them from Taiwan and Hong Kong, worry not

edgy pine
digital juniper
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I dont think they will buff him further, maybe in a years time when he get's outdps'd by new common hero's. Really shows the true colors of these devs. It's just a cash grab and a play on people's memories. Well...you learn on your mistakes, i decided to play chill and not to spend any more cash on this game. Shame, bcuz i thought you can have a lot of fun as a low-medium spender.

ebon garden
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lmfao this is so funny to read tbh most accounts wouldn't get it if they didn't set it up to be faceroll most accounts don't have multiple teams to do the boss until they hit the correct 5 mil 10 mil so on. Most accounts have 1 stacked sigrid they do everything with which is exactly why i love they preset everything to make people experience the game on a FREE level and see what each champ can be capable of that being said you ever put def on Drizzt try it let me know how "weak" he is lmfao.

edgy pine
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I doubt D&D will collaborate with them again after this embarrassment of a hero. They lowered the value of one of their most famous characters and shown him as weak. They are really not thinking about the consequences to come in the future.

obtuse lantern
ebon garden
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wait how is that rude people are pooing on a game cause it's ment for the overall game not individuals if you spent money thats on you sorry you didn't do due diligence or just rng gambled and blew money when it's 100% doable free. what you should do is read where do i say do something i mention trying drizzt defense and see how that goes as in a positive. 🤡Enjoy it, just ignore us 🤡 ignore people downtalking a game cause they feel shorted as they pay to win that is the kind of POO that gets game shut down don't believe me diablo 4 still recovering go ask them.....

digital juniper
digital juniper
# ebon garden wait how is that rude people are pooing on a game cause it's ment for the overal...

If you think that most ppl run Sigrid as F2P and you are amongs them, then both you and they are doing something wrong. All it took for me to gather tons of dice is Trials + Feye Meander, and the only money i spent to get there at that point was 5 bucks to buy Frurbah. I was running Felicity which i got from the horn and free Erich. It doesn't change the fact that Drizzt is badly designed, and ppl like me who are not big spenders suffer the most. Putting tank items on a dps hero just because you watched Stew's video doesn't make you a genius. If you compare Usha to Drizzt, she's a better dps AND tank, obviously having shields helps. In the particular instance of Stew's video Drizzt is a tank only because it makes his panther tanky and hence it spreads the dmg to 2 targets instead of 1. That's a rare exception where the panther actually does more good than bad. My comments are constructive and i know what i am talking about as i play a lot and test everything myself. If you wanna act like a clown, go ahead and join some road circus.

edgy pine
ebon garden
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so waiiiiiit

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you flame something when you have 0 things to actually try and make this issue better

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well other than qqing non stop and yea so what if i watch stew? and sigrid free nuke rare champ what where you on about its the smart move 0 negative said about it continue tho 99% of what you say is toxic period 0 wrong with running sigrid your qqing about another FREE legendary omg end of the world how many games let you play max level characters for free as many times as you want trying to get a reward nothing but negative negative people go buy some copeium it will help or it wont "shrugs"

edgy pine
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Basically the same. 300-350k difference because that run lasted 5 seconds more, so they had more time to put in a few more hits. same team, same gear for everyone. Auster in accuracy build to enable frost for Usha/Drizzt. WITH THE SAME GEAR USHA HAS 5OO ATK LESS, BECUASE HER BASE ATTACK IS LOWER COMPARED TO DRIZZT'S AND STILL THE SAME DAMAGE. L O L
So with those 500 atk more she would outdps him 😄

ebon garden
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Yea tots believe that she isn't fully booked

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Also is that not 4 leggies on a f2p account what about you or what you say isn't cap

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Smelling a whale

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and other rat silence with your hear say clown it's a free leggy all the tears will get it buffed the basement dwelling seems so strong in here

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Also rat explain how useing the best rare in the game is wrong can't wait to hear the full elitist ape on this one

obtuse lantern
digital juniper
# ebon garden so waiiiiiit

You realize you speak with 2 different ppl here right? RIGHT? And also i have tons of gear and characters as a low spender, so i have things "to make him better". I don't flame the game, in my original post i even said i love the game, the only negative thing about this event is Drizzt himself being a trap for ppl who know him from the books while being subpar to a rare hero. How is this a flame post? I suggested for the devs to fix him, then you come in start shouting about nonsense without any proof of having the hero even. All you do is watch youtubers who say "go build him for tanky stuff" while having him fully booked with 5 inspiration levels. Yet still even booked he has lower survivability than Usha, because he doesn't get dmg mitigation from scrolling him up. Either start reading more carefully or go touch grass.

obtuse lantern
digital juniper
edgy pine
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I might join the conversation, but I need to hire someone to translate that message first 🤣😂

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Too broken both in English and thought

digital juniper
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Ye, something about rats.... maybe he thinks we're talking about Twitch? Twitch is solid my dude, you're right 100%!!!

solemn birch
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Someone doesn’t know why me made him tanky

It’s just only because he’s too trash to build full atk,crit and so on

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I used him to mill his tanky opponents in PvP as he still have some dmg when he wear gambler. He is the only one who is not classified as support in my poor team

obtuse lantern
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Its over lmao

edgy pine
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looking forward to it 😄

opaque belfry
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the reality is that usha hits more than him, and she doesn't need to keep a pet alive, she has more survival due to the shield, the reality is that dritz is an event rare and not a legendary one, that's what happens when you make rares and exaggerated epics like garius, the next event will come a tank worse than garius to follow in the footsteps of this
in other games they launch stronger and nerf to adapt here it's the opposite lol

edgy pine
# opaque belfry the reality is that usha hits more than him, and she doesn't need to keep a pet ...

In a way that is true, but here is the other side of the coin. If you nerf Usha and leave Drizzt the way he is, then he is still miles behind strong legendary dps heroes and the problem is still out there. And rares like that have to exist for the sake of f2p and low spenders or they will literally have nothing to compete in this game. And that is actually one thing this game does amazingly better than any other gacha game in the world, allowing f2p and low spenders to do end game content with rare-epic teams. If you nerf those rares and epics, then you will turn Dragonheir into the biggest p2w game, because you will immensly widen the gap between whales and krakens on one side and f2p and low spenders.

tender raptor
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The reason devs can’t make Dritzzt to be so powerful because of the colab summoning rules . It is a lot easier to level 5 inspiration and more cheaper than other pool . When devs design Drizzt like right now , I’m sure they have thought about that issue . They don’t want an easy level 5 inspiration hero to break game balance .

However I also see some disappointment from some players about him . Therefore , maybe in future colab , devs can consider to make it to be harder to level 5 inspiration collab hero = change the summon rule . It can include other legend and has a some rate up chance for colab hero . Just a suggestion here

edgy pine
# tender raptor The reason devs can’t make Dritzzt to be so powerful because of the colab summon...

easy inspiration 5?
40 dice to guarantee 240/240 blades for 1 inspiration (so 150-200 depending how lucky you get on those extra blades), $100 for 22-23 dice. How is that easy? 😄 it's not easy it's completely p2w and no one will have 5 inspirations except whales and krakens. So let overpowered accounts have even more heroes on inspiration 5, and all of us mortals look in disapointment 😄
Sorry I seem to miss your logic

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f2p cannot get Drizzt, because from all the daily demon hunts + fighting errtu every day to collect rewards + story, you get 120 blades. so you need 20 heliolite dice to get 120 blades more or get extremly lucky to summon him. of course you can save dice in advance to be ready for the event

tender raptor
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It is easier than other pools. That’s what I mean

edgy pine
tender raptor
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And devs must have considered about that when they design him like that

edgy pine
# tender raptor And devs must have considered about that when they design him like that

I am going to joke a little bit, I don't mean anything bad by it, because I love this game, and I only want it to succeed, but do you really think they considered it?

  1. they made a part of his ultimate useless, as Vortex and continental bosses, and probably the resurgent dragon do not lose HP so that doesn't work anywhere (still not fixed)
  2. panther was designed to be one shot by some bosses, like Grave of Venom 1st attack
    They started with horrible design, which proves it wasnt considered or thought out well in the 1st place
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they fixed panther's survivability >>> GREAT
they gave Drizzt more HP >>> GREAT
But why is his ultimate still "1% HP lost by the target, the damage is increased by 0.6% up to 30%"???
He was designed to do 30% more damage and that can never be utilized. Why do we have a hero with half of his ultimate not working?
They just plan to leave it forever like that? WTH 😄

tender raptor
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Honestly if as a small spender , you should have waited for reviews from whales first before summoning him . Yeah I know this advise and but I also know that it is hard to follow the advise because I am not lot of times and it has screwed me off

edgy pine
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the summoning is not a problem. I made a decision to spend a little money on dice, and I am not blaming anyone for that.
The problem is that they hyped the event a month in advance. It's not someone like Utior. This is a collab hero, and D&D are
a HUGE name everyone knows about. Drizzt is so famous and strong, so what we expect? A great hero.
But then, they didn't stay true to D&D and they drove him into the ground (he is still good of course, but this has to be compared to other leggo heroes).
The other problem is that it is their 2nd hero obtained through event, and it is another fail, so community will hardly ever trust them again.
So instead of listening to us, building our trust, what do they do?
They announce season 2, and new D&D collab heroes mid season 2, without fixing the first one. That is just a slap in the face.
So we are all like "Yeah, you think I will summon on your events in the future? Think again!"

wintry eagle
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I agree with the sentiment. The issue was how hyped this thing was, and they never released the kit in advance so we could make decisions with our helio around the event. I didn't know if it was going to cost 20 or 200 helio. I started saving my dice the first day it was announced, and waited in eager anticipation for the day to come. So that's a month of time that I didn't summon on any other banners to strengthen my account, because goddamn IT'S DRIZZ'T DO'URDEN ! The most badass drow in the universe... but what we got was a huge disappointment.

At that point you have two options, skip him and never be able to get him again, or do the event, spend 20 helio and grab him in the slim hope that eventually he gets reworked or buffed, because you damn well know if you skip it and he gets a buff then you're going to be kicking yourself later.

They really should have released his kit when it was announced, to give players the option to theorycraft and think about his power level and make better decisions about how to spend dice prior to the event. Waiting a month of hype for the champ we were offered was a huge letdown, especially since IT'S MOFUGGIN DRIZZ'T !

The idea that because he was so easy to inspire they had to make him weaker is bull. They created that problem themselves. They need to change the summon event or work into the contract that these collab heroes are entered into the general summoning pool afterwards OR that these events are reoccuring at some point in the future, that there is a way to still receive drizz't, that way everybody who gets him is happy, and anybody who started afterwards doesn't have to feel FOMO or left out because they can't get him anymore.

digital juniper
solemn birch
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I spent my money on others banner, and I finally got leg artifact and Ghul my boy inspirated

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If I throw them to DnD banner, then I will get inspiration 5 trash drow