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yep, will have to see what i can get and patch the rest of it with whatever else i have, wont be optimal obviously but it will have to do ^^
dont think they will change how that works pretty sure they want to have reward that cant be bought, reward that you can get only by playing... cos already lots of things that can be bought
What i mean is the kit is good enough to be a substitute for the premium supports Lightning needs.
Hey guys. Some packages on buffbuff or midasbuy are only can 1 time buy. So can I buy that packages like r-damage dealer option chest from 2 top-up websites?
actually didnt check out what she does yet 😅
Not likely. I believe its 1 of each type per month. You wont be able to buy those 2 on Midas and then be able to buy them again on Buffy
pretty sure you should be abble to buy it more than 1 time but cant buy it same day or something like that
Did you even try to buy s1-s5 legendary hero chest again and again?
i bought it the other day and its not available to buy now so its refresh if there is one at all, is longer than a day or two
i dont spend on overpriced stuff but i know how they work with all they selling there buy 1 cant buy another there is some timer i suspect its 1 day but not sure. Full AAA game cost 50 they expect 70 for 1 hero. Thats bad joke if you ask me...
Yes, they say "pls dont buy again if you bought it before"
no option to buy again
Which package?
check buff buff then XD they have it even cheaper XD
I mean can we buy same one time only packages on different websites?
well you can try go to that other one cos you did on buff buff now go to midasbuy and check i guess 🤷♂️
yeah buff buff has it but i got the same message as seith did, and i aint clicking buy to find out if i waste 100$ or not to buy something i may not be able to buy 😛
buff buff have that same message for everything even stuff you know you can buy more than 1 time
im happy with just buying it once anyways, i just wanted a good hero to start with, i can be patient for the rest
I dont know is that legal or not lol
as someone who spent a hundred bucks on this game in one go in the past, it didn't feel great even when I GOT the items
dunno what whales get out of big spending on gachas
bragging rights ofc
lol yeah cos good politics is to complain about getting money XD
im fine with supporting games i play, i consider myself a dolphin or light spender. I don't have the resources or desire to whale, i just want to enjoy the game
ego not cheep XD
yeah normal thing someone put effort and time in to doing something its normal to support when you can stuff you enjoy
but whales and krakes are different galaxy XD
It’s all relative… £X to them is £Y to others. Plus and I can’t stress this enough… dopamine
is the campaign story the same every season?
thank god there is not story every season XD i thend to skip those reason also why i stop some games i played cant skip story XD
dont want extra time to go on story when i already need to farm and come up with solutions to how to do something
maybe thats why some ppl are "give me code" XD
the story is pretty decent i think but its too long when considering all the sidequests. im still on the 2nd map of 6 after 2 weeks >.<
i literally stop genshin cos cant skip story. Not usually game i go for but lots of friends play so cos of them. Did like combat and complexity about setups and interactions but story... got sick of having to go trough all that story
never tried genshin cuz im more of a turn based player, but did play HSR for a bit and the story there was ridiculously long winded, had to quit for that reason >.<
More fan of combat, hack and slash and really picky about how combat is... But do play other stuff... Not big fan of vectorized, stilized anime like graphics in games...
im playing WoR and Nikke as well as this now, just quit Raid and Dragon Traveler
guys, others games discussion it's in #🐉┆off-topic-chat please
legit why I stopped wanting more storyline for dragonheir
hitting the skip button a thousand times instead of just having an option to autoskip
This site was in the top up channel is it legit ?
Yes 😌
Can you please tell me how do i go about buying something inbgame with that website
You go to Dragonheir at the midas page and buy what you want, then you need your account ID for the ingame distribution.
I don‘t know. It works in my region
I live in iraq brother we have many things restricted
Like why is not an adult allowed to spend however the F he wants to spend his earnings i don't know
Did you try buffbuff? I have the impression that buffbuff works where midas doesn‘t and vice versa. 🙂
Buffbuff better
Even though I'm doing a lot of fusining, my familiar aren't reaching skill level 5. Am I missing something?
You can see the progress in the bar in the middle
Elfquest avatar generator 😉
Concerning the game? Of course 🙂
Yes, this fusion gives +220 points on the way to the next talent
Yes, that‘s why I like the game. But no advertising here
Okey thanks 😅
You can post fan art here: https://discord.com/channels/928541801260908546/1170132237228970075
buff buff is also cheaper
Does the bar need to be completely full?
My wording was bad. I changed it.
Yes.
It needs a lot of fusions 🙂
But where am I going to find all those familiar? 🤣🤣
Someone on my server has unlocked the 6th skill.
Buffbuff is also legit way and not third party they talk about ingame announcement?
Yes. Buffbuff and Midas both are official. 🙂
Look, here‘s an official announcement with a link to buffbuff:
Is the item i have chosen the hero pact ?
Where i get 2 leggo chests + 50 legendary shards
I don‘t think so. There should be the word pact
This looks like a chest with a single hero
Last try is vpn + google play purchase hope that works
Good luck‘ 🍀
in IB team which epics can replaces zhorak?
nobody can really replace zhorak, you just put your next best in
beldelle / shinnah / fredegonda / zhorak / miro / bleddyn / gerthin / seidic / nord etc.
just put in the next best one and try your best
if you have shinna and beldelle you should be good without zhorak can put what ever you want, nadja, grethin or use another support or something
or can use bladdyn and as WR uses and make shinna dps XD
my main only hv shinna..no bleddyn..i guess using gerthin and nord
nadja ?
but that mean you dont have beldelle ?
from my experience nadja is better dps than gertin but ppl still insist on geth cos ppl remember how she was before reboot
hell sedic probably is also better didnt try but i can bet he would do better than gerth XD
if you don't have beldelle then gerthin takes her spot
give them only crit chance no artifact so there is no stats or bonuses difference... dont compare to shinna she have pupeter set with WR
mmm I just returned after finishing S3... Am I right in understanding that everyone is on the same season cycle now? So I've joined one phase in and have missed the progress and rewards up until now? 🤔
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Unfortunately yes
No, it's just a guarantee gauge
you can evolve even without filling it if lucky
prob a trade
I have Hourglass and Witchs remains so far
is there a clear third to pick?
I'm waiting to see what banner pops up honestly
If i can get Guin i'll main dauntless obviously
If I can get Tal i'll main Aura
just being patient right now
he dont get chance to do it XD
if aura main the golden bell thing
That's what I'm saying, without Tal or Guin, Dauntless is performing better right now due to Nast
I would drop money on it but i spend too much on raid already haha
so think its just a case of waiting and hoarding until either guin or tal show up
tbh i've got enough dice alone to do 1 300 summon pool
Aura is just tal
yeah but Guin runs the dauntless show doesnt she
im saying i need either to make one of the teams function properly
If nastjenka is used like in image you show she didnt have enabler. She need someone that attack fast like tarivol to enabler her or sutha, or can be used more than 1 enabler depending on fight. Most of her dmg is actually follow up attack and if no dauntless that attack fast she does less dmg
so all that matters for tharivol is attack speed?
different dps school have enablers that work in different way ofc lots of them have some team buff, attack, dmg, enlightment... but main thing is how they make dps school do more dmg. Dauntless is based on follow up attack along with enabler that does lots of basic attacks. Dauntless also offten have skills (battle and ulti) that are counted as basic attack
attack speed and crit chance. When he ulti he chennel for 2 sec and after 2 sec he is in state where he can shoot 3 arrow or 1 arrow based on his crit chance
put high crit chance and he will offten shoot 3 arrow in 10 sec of his ulti duration
also he gets lots of attack speed if he dont change target
no clue what other classes are doing
i dont have many heros
like i said yesterday easy way to check stuff is open galery and you can check all you want, skills, talents, inspirations... what heroes you are missing...
what i mean is what heros are needed for the team and what are no used
main dmg nastyenka does is this
50% chance for any hero basic attack to trigger this. 100% chance if dauntles basic attack. More basic attack dauntless do more dmg this does...
Sutha on other hand when she crit she alwasy does double hit but when bursting stage tarivol does more attacks.
yeah teams are something you need to adjust based on fight ideally you would go guin and nastjenka + 3 enablers. But in fights you cant do that need to drop number of enablers and use utility, tank, sheal, heal, debuffs remove, buffs remove...
yeah i dont have the heros so i dont know
need to get them first to figure it out
see what i get in the next banner
then figure out what hero to use
well different dps schools work in differnet ways need to build around that
yeah
aura is all about recharging and consuming aura energy this cause dmg
dauntless attack speed and follow up dmg
wild its flora put mark and then team unleash spells more hits spells do more they charge floras mark. 10 sec and it explode doing dmg to 1 target
burn put stacks of burn 9 when you up burn to 10 stacks it explode doing small aoe and drop down to 9 stacks, when this happen durem shoot rockets at target
toxin, put 40-60 stacks of toxin and they do dmg over time but you have lothair that does dmg based on enemy hp and higher number of stacks more that dmg is amplified
ice blast all about recharging cristals. Have cristal can free cast battle skill over and over and over again... untill you run out of cristals or dont run out
Frost is weird mix of multiple dmg type. Crit dmg, derivative dmg and dmg based on enemy hp. But fail at all XD
Does anyone else keep having login problems? It keeps saying service error
And yet i see enough wolfs and aura make easy work out of her.
I seen teams that wont let her ulty at all
wolf op
How so
Kurvida supposed to be
Yeah message me if it’s easier
unlucky lmao
it's better than nothing 🙂
is wolf really good?
if u ask for saverio, the answer is yes he is overcheated.
Daunt/necro
Heya question, can you stack mythic gear 1 piece buffs or is it a 1 time only thing?
Different units, for example 30% extra damage against defense debuff, can I put that on 3 times and does it work 3 times on the same char?
Ok, tyty
Mythic gear doesn‘t stack
Yea that explained why my damage went down 🤣 cheers guys
btw which hero do you think is must for your account
sorry typo haha
hahah
some supports are must have for your account, with some dps too 🙂
oh
f.e. felosia, anneliesis, reytah, tiamat are great supports
f.e. talethia, guinavivre, beldelle, lelwanis are great dps
and ofc sometimes u'll need good tank too 😄
my shadow haaha do you think it's still good to get the wolf guy haha
nice does the wolf include to?
saverio yes
idk for the second wolf
I just cited a few examples, I'm not going to list all the heroes x)
oh bro ty hahah i might select felosia in the chest
it's a good support choice
though i still need to wait for a few days
depends on what team your doing
lots of good picks there
rose is pog for aura teams
felosia's the best unit from there though
no one else does her job well enough for ice teams
So devs wrote that duplicate inheritance heroes issue is solved which in reality is not people still have many duplicate heroes on their accounts
Apology not accepted 🤣
like we are sorry we gave you 2 extra Mashtuurs, please forgive us and take this small gift as an apology. (1000gems)
Least you got some gems. I didn’t even inherit anything. Although in their defence I never really played after s1 first time.
Still though an i5 maash would be welcome… Devs; if you’re reading this.
Do we have a calendar thingy for after 27th April? Cause the one in the #📢┆game-announcements ends on 27th april
Can anyone help me which is the best to pick?
Felosia
the fog is thick.
Ye belledelle I'd say. Start building ice blast. Or if u want chess get hwitar
start building beldelle in season 6 as an advice is pretty nuts id say
Why theres no exclusive artifact
Top 3 teams for vortex are dauntless aura and iceblast
u forget corrosion x)
I have aura, but im sux with any ice
Iceblast is pretty much used everywhere except pvo
I shouldve pic coro
If u have rook u should have
Do we know what is next banner?
No
I stop playing game from season 2 then just back lately
And will there ever be a summon banner
Stop more than a year
It's like asking whether oil will mix with water
Hmm
Next banner should be lightning/necro 🙂
Is there a preview?
Ye. But do we know when it release?
Yes click probabilities on any vanner and then scroll 🤣
I mean for the lightning/ necro one
Should maybe just get a copy? Wondering wheter hvtar for a 5 man team with aethereal?
The information is from chinese server and the probability preview ingame 🙂
I mean the same
Awesome tyvm
Yo can u stop with the question after getting an answer. At least try to do what I say before u ask again lmao
Btw guys iam still trying to get some summon units if someone has prophecy code they don't want which includes summon school units tell me please
Atm i have sintrella and lelwanis
I have one with sintrella and irzillas but it will cost you a lot of dices.
Is hvtar good synergy with aethereal or they dont work together?
Yeah but what asking whether they good in synergy.forexample I mean not all aura compliment each other.
O_O smartlord
They do in magichess
Atlease u get what i mean haha. What about in dungeons? Pvp?
Yes very very good together
I choose to not explain. But you read hwitar ultimate. And read aethereal Ultimate
Pvp probably yes. Venom dungeon it's worth trying. The others i dont think so.
Np
Did you pull some ice blast ? Or do you have them already ?
If you have zhorak and shinnah i would get beldelle. Even if you already have the whole aura squad its still worth picking ice blast because of continental challenge and end game.
But all aura complement each other 🤔
he don't even understand..he is learning step by step asking in here xD
Remind me of durango. Bro need atk, crit rate, crit dmg and acc 🤣.
Have you try inspiring them
🤣 ? Im sure it will lessen equipment burnden.
did they nerf magicchess? last week chapter 4-9 they started like with 3 stars, couldnt win fights at begining, in later rounds they were many and maxe, now 5-8 they are at 3 stars while flora left with 1 hp
Someone already sent me one with those but since i have sintrella already I will have to get a different one
Tyvm tho
Get more sintrelia
Chances are no one will give u one with lelw
For summon meta it's bernade, lelw, sintrilia and irzillas or just 2 supps
So since sintrelia is in main team, may as well get i3 for her.
I know people won't just give away premium codes .
But if i could get 2 of azrillas , premesta and ledinha in a code that would be great although iam trying myself too
Gotta wait 4 more days to reset my existing prophecy codes
Daym, apology accepted
1k is a joke compared
What time do banners usually go live? So I can get my guin finally lol
I didn’t have any heroes to collect… so actually it’s kinda nice 😏
Reset
Noooo, I'll be blasting new diablo season then
I recognise your name from somewhere
I'm sure we played in a gacha before, unless someone goes by your name also
Magnum Quest, ACE?
There can be only one.
waiiiittt
Think Magnum, with Jay and Queen no? We’ll get told off for mentioning other games 🤣
Yeeahhh
just realised lol
Nah, I was chatting away for like an hour with alien before about ACE lol
Super Invicta, haha
Good times. I knew i recognised the name
Compared to what?
compared to few extra mashtuurs left on some accounts
Anyone has a good prohecy code? 
My thought exactly.
As of now all heroes have been taken back that has been issued as too much from last Friday
Probably the most lucrative season in Dragonstride, bar none
I think they forgot to take one of my.... Never mind
, they took everything
I'm actually quite surprised they were able to fix it so quickly and easily
Mining is fun 🥴
You are surprised they fixed something that affects their pockets directly, very quickly? 😂
well not that part, but how surgically they were able to do it
false, there are numerous proofs
Well if you have you can still share and we take a look at if you think it is undeserved (also via dm if you don’t want it to be openly known)
Other than some saying they kept things I can’t prove or deny of it but have to believe devs that everything got reset
I shared it via celeste already
Then it will probably be under investigation
Ive got more fun 🤣
Good thing I only got 1 extra Ardeth and 2 Stegamoffins....
They didn't even bother to take them back🤣
not that anybody would care
Well you case just proves that not all of it was resolved as it was mentioned before
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If you have other ice blast beldell. Otherwise one of the frost
well its 3 enablers and its not challenge to stay alive XD
yeah, unfortunately I think they are doing it manually
so it's a lenghty process
are there always gap-days between banners?
1 day yes
do we keep familiars at reset?
yes
u can see what u keep or not, all fully reserved = u keep
party reserved = reset level 0
without text = no keep
a new start every wednesday
if u don't have patience, good luck to play at this game
trueee
great coding have. And enemy have no haste items. Enemy ulti first who ever coded this good job profesinal work 🤣 😂 👍
Love flat mains with close to perfect subs… it’s like a slap in the face with a wet fish.
Guys after this ice banner it's the light one?
How the hell do you finish journey chapter 13 when there isn’t enough characters in the school dojos to fulfill the requirement?
frost? but yeah, with the exclusive units some of the 'school's cant be completed unless you have 1-2 exclusive units. also 'assist' borrow works.
I can only do frost that it. Currently have 0 shadow and around 6-7 on the others so ultimately pointless
Guys after this ice banner it's the light one? Any one know?
which one?
Its lightning and necrosis based on CN order
i feel you. the easiest schools next would be dauntless and wild. as some of the units can be bought from the exchange shops ingame(guild shop, etc) i was able to buy 2 dauntless and 2 wild units. the rest of the slot i borrowed using the assist function they have. but they did say they are working towards changes where new players wont be stumped by not having enough units for the game mode.
where can i get oblivion scrolls?
Ah ok so it's lighting after ice?
anyone want to add for pet assist hehe i want fuse to get my familiar good
Unless they change it yes
I used to play years ago and quit as the game was boring. Came back about 3 weeks ago missed out on the super fun server. I can’t see an option to borrow/assist function
need to ask in your build its not anyone its your guild...
Lightning/necrotic then radiance/fire i think. Cant wait to pull on both
maybe they end up delaying frie and radiance and add something before it who knows
Ill take the khrysos banner haha
you need a friend who has the units showcased on their profile so you can borrow. im a returnee too and playing on my old account., but lucky enough to pull on the 800 pull banner and was able to make an aura team.
Ye I missed out on that am gutted. Just lots of catching up to do now
What do you have as legendary ?
350 summons on the selected summons, not a single premium legendary (besides the selector) 🥀
For a new player I would recommend Felosia, second after that perhaps Acilia
So should I pick felosia or acilia
Felosia
Ok should I put felosia in my top 5
I would say Felosia
yes
Either Torrin or Oggok. Leaning on torrin but idk
Ok ty for all the help all not good with the heros let me know anyone
in magic chess
what is the logic..for frost team..even when the spellcaster character no longer alive on the board their effect of casting random control effects still carries throughout the match until the end
why is this still active evne if you kill her ?
what do you mean active he died no more +10k hp lol
why is this still astive even if you kill him
even if there is no planeswalker on the board but the effect casting been renewed as if they are there
casting control is not a passive skills, how do you even casts when you died lol
even if you kill 5 star aemon why her team still keep crazy hp
those passive you showed are granted attributes to the characters because he is still alive
alive characters stats attributed when he is alive until he is dead
not from what i saw in fights
but then again i saw this also... so at this point you go ok none of this make sense dont care its broken #🐲┆dragonheir-chat message
hochadir casting control when he is literally alone left xD
Where is this in the story?
Just curious. It's so damn tedious man lol
Not complaining if I got loads left. Just means more currency for pulls
Well I think combining with other games is a mistake. I mean if I wanted to play might and magic I would do it
It's free stuff man
Hopefully this only lasts this season and no more

Raids collab with the TMNT wax a raging success, but yeah, 4 stupidly OP units also
If its free stuff I don't care what it is I'll do it
Yeah that's why I am doing it even though I don't like it. But it doesn't encourage me. It only made things more complicated. You shouldn't have to read so much or miss one little button and doomed
Free is not always good lol
If its insanely time consuming and unrewarding I agree. I'll skip it and buy a pack instead and save time 😅
Hey guys, see the Wukong currency, I'm guessing buy anything but his artifact lol
Since he's so mid
no thanks. I won't invest in any of this.
After defeating the spider just talk to Ergander and follow him
Oh I'm good. Just wondered how far i am in story
Exactly at the spot I quit the most 🤣
The spider be so annoying... Max time I fought is 50 times 😭 against the spider and control is worst there
I can't even * a swear lol
As how 🤣
It's Fing tedious ain't it
Not tedious... Just control problems there. Killing the spider is easy
Think bro is trolling or going mad
Dauntless will love to speak with her 👀
Or Talethia running 9 sec dungeons
👀 the opposite
There is a distinct differences between trolling, and being a troll.
Indeed there is please define what you think trolling is? Maybe I am too old to understand
Yeah she knows you are kidding 👀....
Granny just loves to tease yah
Since it is a word that doens't actually exist
I know lol
Do you mean it lol 👀
It's in Cambridge Dictionary lol 🤣
It has to exist in folklore and such haha
Troll Queen 👑.... 🤣 I give you an heart 💜
Are you kidding me? I was just thinking they need a new dictionary for internet talk
She knows the game well 🤣
Yeah.... iPad dictionary 👀.
OMG what the hell? ROFL
The word isn't enough until granny Alia own is there
so beldelle, lelwanis and wolf are not top now ? XD
In her dictionary... They don't exist until granny Alia exist in it (Only her opinion matters)👀
exactly! lol
She is now the final say... Court Arise 🤣
No need to if you don't want to
not 100% on arua could be something in between but yeah probably like that
That's basically urban dictionary
pro level 99 🤣
i'm a pretty heavy spender in raid. I can easily take spending out of that if it means otherwise missing Tal
She wants the Gothic version
YES!
FOMO is real
I'll put satanic marks on each page, will that suffice?
No worry they didn't understand me either when I was young😂
Oh great... I smell a whale from afar when I see one.
Welcome to the Whale Kingdom.
Our folk like prawn will be your escort on the trip
nah i didnt outright buy tal
I am still a shrimp
Sell your soul to buy the Gothic Dictionary is allowed. It's cheap ain't it
should ease on those social media goth videos XD
or do this ABC, DNC, LOL
I'm ginger, ain't got none
The empty shell can't be used .. 👀.
Ginger makes the tea ☕ nice.
If money don't work and the soul don't work, then the shell of it should suffice as payment
We don't need new dictionary 🤣.... The world is crazy enough
We need DragonHeir dictionary
so cute!
And probably tasty in the soup
Has there been many complaints about the tavern gambit time frames?
it's pretty insane it's so limited
I don't know but I don't like the whole thing. I tried to keep an open mind but it's hard to get in to.
It's like two different mechanics trying to make sense like two different words
Does Fey corridor get easier as you level the psysiocore stats?
What can you improve to brute force these stages?
Its 4 days i'm stuck on stage 283 and just feeling more and more dumb every time I try
yes it does get better. There are some good videos of Fey. I am on 254 atm. Maybe change up team?
lol
I tries putting on stun gear but my stats on stun gear suck and champs keep dying
If you have shadow with saverio they brute force it.
Don't tell me I gotta run it until I get good rng on stuns
I don't
I been using shadow since fay 1 lol
I'm f2p and most teams on youtube have a bunch of leggos I don't have
Well we're on the same boat.
I'm also on my 1st season so no good artifacts
Ah you're on s1
The problem is that if you have more timeslots, if you wanna keep up with rank it also means you have to play more
F2P your on fae 283!? Day 4?
Not on day 4
Was about to say haha
You're doing good
That's pretty good then. Because I never finished it on S1 but then fey was a bit different then.
yeah im nowhere near that
Use the familiar that gives a shield and stuns and make sure u got enough accuracy
but im waiting on guin to push it
You doing great.
Are sets better than stats in this game? Why when I check some other teams builds, they have mythical gear on but with flat stats or bad sub stats but they still do more damage than me in Vortex
i think your on my server
I got tired of the old format back then. Never tried to complete it at some point
With the same team ?
Sometimes it is not the hero. Sometimes it is the gear and/or positioning
Are you on this server?
Similar teams
Rly depends on the difference in stats on them, for me the leggo gear is doing better cause of the stats
No i'm on celebration server 127 I think
One time I had three tanks at once. Hey it worked for me lol
I tried Ripekas, Felosia, Anneliesis, Torrin, aoe dmg dealer
The progress on psychicore, the dps , the inspiration, the gear , the stats , the artifact, the positioning
Those can make the difference
I went deep on that stage yesterday. Reading each champs skills, which squares the attacks land on, repositioned my team, Put everyone in high res, change talents around
Take a break from it and come back later. Is what I do
There used to be a guy who did videos with only epics.
Good advice
Gorax ?
I would like to see that again. But if he still played, I doubt he could do it now. It was a long time ago
I don't know what else I should do but leave it alone. 12 guys in our server completed it
Hum. Never saw gorax face. Might not be him
oh ok
What day are you on your celebration server ?
I mean it ws way back when game first came out. I could be wrong too
15 i think or 16
You still have some time before you guys switch to s6.
I forgot. I haven't logged in since this morning when fey took all motivation from me. That was 8hrs ago i haven't touvhed this game. Was close to quitting
I should tag him to this xD
No dont. Trying to speedrun while being f2p in s1 is not the best way to take it
With no stamina, nothing to do if your in S1. Just gotta wait and wait and wait and wait some more
Take your time
I forgot his name. This was before US left
The bald man ? Stew ?
What'cha mean bro, I wanna have fun
Yeah Stew
You're getting frustrated in the end. Hence take your time
I played more Raid today than dragonheir, not a good thing
RUNNNN!!!
So what is the aim of players btw, just to complete the story
I never figured it out. I think it is more of a Leggo collector game
I'm not into lore than much, I skip all the dialogue
Story ended years ago. haHA
Everywhere you look in this game it's leaderboards. It's all about competing
Me am waiting for more story content. They promised it in their dev letter when reborn was in motion
Lore can be fun, but they sort of got off that track.
And if you can't compete you will quit the game if your not strong mentally
Or like me and hate to leave a game after all the work
Which a game shouldn't be like that. Even dummies like me should be able to have fun without feeling like I have to do Math to clear a stage
I mean I played one game for 12 years. I go back now and then. Same people there lol
It's like having a reunion when I do go back
Yeah I am one of those people. It usually takes Drama for me to actually quit and alot of it.
Because some games are very toxic
By now Dragonheir should've released free champs to make Fey a walk in the park for new players becuz veteran players don't talk about it anymore
Drama can be fun if you just watch it.
Well i can tell yo first hand it is way easier than it used to be.
They're onto more exciting stuff and we stuck here looking for some CC to make a video about it but no, not an issue for s6 players it seems
We had to do every single goblin run to raise ONE hero at a time for example.
Seasons can be good and bad
Feels like i'm playing a different game to everyone else
I take this game as a casual play. Too old for fast paced crap and trying to be the best at things. Benn there, done that. It's exhausting mentally.
I can imagine
The game was meant to be very different really. Like a combo of DnD, gacha , etc
Leave the difficult stuff for PvP, not pve where everyone wants somewhere to enjoy
Except they never followed the DnD mechanics
Let the whales take over PvP but give us champs to solve the older content
Like when yo upick your hero. It does not matter at all. A rogue is no better than a hero etc
Oh ok
For example, i'm struggling in Fey and nobody really has a solution in this discord or not manyy ppl
Well I can only advise to come back to it. You are doing great really. In fact I am behind you a bit in Fey. Today I will focus on talents, etc
Seems like a secret sauce or somethinng. Example in Raid if your stuck, so many players can offer viable solutionss ttoo your problem but in this game everything seems so rng or go back to school and do a bunch of math
Blame the devs. The s1 you're playing is like 3 years old. This is not the s1 from reborn.
Gen Z attention span is so short I don't see any or much of them playing this game. Takes too much concentration
I like figuring things out is why I was attracted to the game in the first place. Plus I was looking for something very different.
This game for a bunch of old guys or old people in young bodies
watch it! lol
Avarage age maybe 36
I was shocked. I saw a stream on twitch and the s1 he was playing was the og. I was surprised because i tried making an account on celebration server and s1 was the system from s1 reborn. Quite confusing
Devs like you to stay. If things become to easy people get bored and leave. Loyal players are far more valuable
wow I had no idea really.
The early game should be easy so new players can feel like they're playing the same game as the CCs
You watch videos on youtube and it feels as though everyone is 6 years ahead of you
Most of them are lol
We can never catch up but at least let us be having same experience
Devs fault. But as i said you will be playing s6 soon
S1 is kind of an introduction before you are tossed in the current season
Seems like everyone is doing they're own thing and not on the same focus.
I been there where you are. I did alot of game testing before release. Everyone was ahead of me. I was too busy trying to figure it out. I did not spend. By the time S1 came they were light years ahead. I never "caught" up. Hate PVP for one thing
Tbh I find it a good game even for ftp late comers. I played 1 season of the original game. Left it. Can back in reborn. Took some time and planning, but I can compete for top 50. Top 25 this season and top 10-20 in pvp’s. So they did a good job I think. Also I play fairly casually in comparison to other games I’ve played.
Rewards are higher than most gachas
It's not a bad game but everyone is focuing on something different
Yes
But many have been where you are too. I rarely asked for help so it might be my own fault
True, but that in itself is a good thing. IMO. I also like the fact you have to think and plan, that a wrong choice can hurt the account.
Oh you mean like Rook the Crook? hahha
So when CCs make videos, most times it's only releveant to a few and not the whole community. Whereas other games it's different. All players and CCs are on the same page. If a new gun gets released, everyone is watching vids about it. If a new champ or fusion is released in Raid, everyone, new and old focused on the same thing
Yup…
Well for me, Ilike doing things on my own. I only watched videos for two reasons. One to support others, two when VERY pissed off
Amongst others. I chose to focus as much on guin and dauntless. It’s paid dividends.
And it rarly helped for the same reaso you mentioned. They used only leggos I don't have
Here is and idea. Go to gorax ytb channel, go in playlist and look for his s1 reborn video. If the fey you're playing is the one from s1 you will find help. He covered fey back then. With epics
Same. That’s the fun of this… figuring stuff out. Copy and paste isn’t fun. Think I’ve used one team code in 5 seasons.
I used one team code too. It helped so much. It was last season
Dauntless is a great low time investment and less loss compared to others.
🤔 But AOE if Lelwanis was faster will have been the international number 1 for AOE and everyone else will be at back bench
I just now got Lew this season. Finally!
Oh you mean... Ripekas/Zharloth/Vidimir/Rava/Torrin 👀
Ozul a bad azz too though if with the right set up.
And auction for Sevario 👀
Dude Necro is my all time favorite used to Horus poor guy lol
Might have been his team back then
lemme go search for it
Yeah... But using mismatch most times can get the job done too.
Like Ripekas/Nastjenka/Guinevere/Ghul'ende/Tiamat 👀 from Fey 1-300
Dam it I bever got Nastjenka OH MY god
I dont think trey can do that. He's on s1 celebration server and f2p. No way he got dauntless
Dauntless has been S1 👀
I only got ice characters and aura
Oh ok
I started with Anneliesis summon event
Basically I've been playing for just 16 days
Celebration server has the same banner as s1. Unless you're a heavy spender you cant
5 to one lol
Eurion/Torrin/Gardrus/Felosia/and that new Frost girl 🤔 what's her name again
That's perfect
I didn't go for her, I went for Beldelle
mistake
Great choice imo
Eurion/Bedelle/Shinnah/Torrin/Vinyara should work
She is in every dam PVP team now Rooks other sister from a different species?
I have those champs
Who is the 5th
Aetherel ?
yep
oh okay
Aethereal yeah
Hiigh res build on Eurion or?
High Resistance and high Defense that's all
I have my Torrin at 350 RES atm with the share % res talent
i cant even pass 170 cause no ripekas lol
Eurion needs more too so Torrin addition will go overboard on him 😁
Eurion is a great tank
You got astaion ?
Resistance bro counters Ripekas... You must have half the double of his Accuracy
You can slot in Gardrus for Vinyara then... He will knockback
He needs so much Accuracy and Haste
Astaoin is the next pick
I'll hold out until tomorrow then pick him. Guin in my dauntless team might be able to brute force it
She's great at control
never get Dalk. lol
I have the champs your mentioning, now i need to get the builds, talents, positioning right
Got him 3 time 🤣
I feel your sorrow
Should i be building a frost team for him then?
Gardrus needs to be at the center.... Eurion forward, Torrin at the back and Gardrus at the 3rd back and the rest any place
Or just go mixed
I used those dupes for artefacts so am half sad
nah, you did right
Not needed
No stun sets?
Nastjenka/Guinevere/Tamar/Fathomdown/Zeffi 🤔 should work... But at times Astaoin would be best as support for Dauntless 🤣
He needs it.... Knockback with a bit of stun lock
So if i build my team and send you the team code, will you be able to see if my builds are wrong?
Just share on #📊┆dragon-lineup-help someone should help better. But I can see to it a little too
How do we call the debuff that slow the ultimate bar ?
don't worry if its a hassle
Ultimate Down
There you go Astral can help you. Sorry I am not good with helping mechanics. My brain won't work like that. But I can encourage you to do it later lol
This one is also nice to have in fey. For the likes of khrysos, berangar and elecebre
Heroes that got it are Grishnaar/Ripekas/Ghul'ende/Vinyara and a lot more I can't remember
Berengar is defensive and best against healers. But Ripekas is 3x better than him in Fey for his 8 Debuffs which 4-5 unlocks at once randomly
I love Ripekas. Use him every day!
True, doing it later also works too 😁
Ripekas + Elecebree are cheff kiss for Fey 😁
No i was saying that when facing the likes of berangar in fey. Not using them. Most time they are the ones that block progress in fey
cheat😮
You use Ripekas to ULT them down before they ULT.... Constantly ULT down, knock down, stun and keep CC going 🤣
I never pay attention to who I am fighting in Fey. To me, they are obstacles I just have to find the right formula for the type
That's the cheat code... Never let them ULT for people like Berengar/Khrysos/Grishnaar/Mithreasea/Elecebree
This is who i'm facing on stage 283
Garrika is probably the one causing your demise 🤣
Stack tank and one healer to the left and others to the down right
Don't let everyone stay all in front of Garrika or you will never ULT
weird combo of enemies
That's why Ripekas is best... Will stop Ergander ULT to control others and Garrika a bit in her fast ULT
So high Res doesn't counter that?
And Knockback epic Gardrus to send them back will reform them
Ergander keeps pissing you off? Does he survive?
I have Ripekas
use it
It will... But Gardrus needs Accuracy not Resistance. Ripekas needs more Accuracy and less Resistance too
Garrika at work
Torrin needs the most resistance to share to Ripekas
No matted who I throw in, He kills even Ripekas with high res high hp
Rip stuns but put stun on him anyway
His accuracy also high, 300 is recommended and I use potions to boost more
Accuracy/Haste/Attack is what Ripekas needs.... Torrin will do the Resistance sharing
It doesn't hurt
You will need 100 to 150 more... Like 400 Accuracy and 40-50 Haste.
Now i want to go back in fey
Rift Hourglass will be best for Ripekas
Res sharing, Torrin would need to have very high Res becuz he only shares 20%
and you need 300 Res min to have a chance
talents maxed?
No hour glass yet
That's why you need the Accuracy so high and Haste to counter them before first ULT... Then Gardrus knocks back and Ripekas reult again
I was using anneleisis to boost his ultimate, it worked for the firstt 30 secs, then when Garrika got hiis ultimate, everyone dies
Now 😂 it's gonna be super hard
I go before them
Everyone uses they're ultimate before the enemies but its after that cycle is when I lose
Then Gardrus needs legendary haste artifact 🤔 to knock back at half Ripekas ULT this way endless ULT. But oh well Garrika can disrupt again 🙁.
Won't do... Ripekas will finish you all and Garrika
Debuff makes Garrika ULT faster
And Lossenia and other Frost does it... I mean Hvitar and Aethereal too
The less he does the ultimate the better for me, I wish I couldve just one shot him somehow lol
How I wish Vinyara ULT is AOE and not single Target... It would have been the best Hero in the game for CC
check your talents, make sure they are at high peak for the purpose. I have done that before and got through difficult times. Also I promise you one day of farming that alone is worth breaking through. It sounds like something is off there OR artifacts, line up. Those were my weakness.
You can't... Maybe Guinevere and Nastjenka could help for those then. Or use Shadow team
At times some days it gets easy to do and some days it fine tunes to be hard
Do I have to complete Fey in the season?
The same team that died, could be the same team to win
Let the engineers do it😂
Can I just forget about it?
Not really... DragonHeir doesn't force people to
yes
Just do it gradually lol. You will finish it
Before season end
YOu can just say to hell with it. Come back a week later and boom
sometimes day
JuJU!!
In old version took me 4 seasons before i could fully defeat fey
Or you manual that's the best taste for Fey 🤣... If it doesn't work with AI, then human brain would fine a way about it 🤣. The trick never rust
Same here. It was S3 I think for me
If one struggles wait till physiocore is at full
Call on juju name once in Fey and thou shall win 😂
Why do i feel as though i have nothing to do in the game?
O ya iforgot about the phyc
Some times it is when next Fey limit unlocks 😂
We all go through that. Is why it is a casual game unless you whale it all
If you can't do Fey 170, if day 300 unlocks... Surprisingly you will win Fey 170 that day without knowing how 🤣
.....well yeah but tomorrow CC opens
@blazing reef I thought it was just me!
I think this one is from Gorax... You could try if you can win
Ripekas stuns, Rava on stun, the Frost guy on stun, Zharloth on stun only Torrin heals 👀 and share resistance
Who is the guy on the far right?
The purple guy is Zharloth
Oh ya forgot about him
Zhatloth the smaller ghulende
Actually even better than him in most Fey fight
Shadow Spire 4 setup and lineup… they keep blowing by my guys and I don’t make it through the timer… any suggestions… don’t have Talia so Aura setup is weak
If his ULT was AOE... 🤣 It would be brutal as he literally makes you sleep in fight with fear
Its all about how you use em
Probably use an Epic Aura person in slot as DPS hopefully you win
True... But Zharloth works best against enemies clocked together. He is the most super helpful to Ripekas to hawk them down
https://discord.com/channels/928541801260908546/1106807575158214767 for lune up help you can also post your roster.
I use rally for spire but i got all of em
The Dnd element is applied to the gear, line up and core. Not to the hero with exception of exclusives from waht I seen in this game. NOt sure how Heroes of Magic or wahtever will apply in the future? Or is it a temporary collaboration?
And that Frost guy stun locks and heals and I love Rava holding them together with Frost 🤣. Very slippery something
Yeah some of the epics CC can be tide turning
True. This game is the one where Epic are still useful no matter how many legendary they keep producing. They never went useless and I love that
Except Horus my ex-boyfriend
I think it's permanent 🤔... Let's hope temporary or maybe they have something major else in mind
Temporary please!
He is... But most people don't focus on fire heroes that's why
In the days of no Frubarth and Garius.... Horrus was my savior
yeah maybe fire makes a comeback next season who knows?
And that rare Heksandra 😭. How I miss them lol
heck ya. Great tank
You will use 1 rare Heksandra from beginning to the end 🤣. Nothing was more useful than her IMO
Then ripekas and Eurion said moveover Horus
Im using heksandra right now, i just missed using her
Wow
Somehow healers were produced not Torrin never lost his spot 😂
Nobody beats him to his game lol... Heal huge, hide everyone 🤣. He is a scaredy Vidimir
Yeah true. I don't use healers much at all lately. Now I just cursed myself
I just love Heksandra big heals, Debuff remover, fast mini heals before then. She straight up saves people like Garius back in the days
With a necro team you really don't need a healer in many cases. Rips rips em a new one
Garius and staff was OG for heals first time around.
Torrin and elf chick cheat code for Rot.
I remembered it was Garius/Heksandra/Sigrid/Adolphus and vane or what is the name of that fire Debuff guy.
They help a lot... Sigrid was on steroid back in the day.
ya Dane close enough
She ULTs and everyone dies straight up 😂.
Everyone had to complain life how do you win against this girl that ULTs before any epic and legendary lol as many as possible
Makes me want to see how far I could get with no leggos
Zharaloth is necrosis?
Yes
A Debuff attack that heals from his Debuff done
I don't think I have him yet...smh
Imma just forget about fey for now
My mind is tired
Time to go eat. Nice shooting the breeze with you❤️ Be safe.
You mean Zharloth... Very hard person to get.
Epic chests help when you get em
Question: if you guys could pick any support, a support that you cannot do without, who would it be?
......vinyara
O.o, reason?
Its difficult to choose just one as everyone has a place but vinyaras kit makes her SSR, dispel buffs, ult down, frozen, attack penalty, shield def up. She is just a swiss army knife
👍 I was looking at her kit but she didn’t seem like much of a healer so never tried her. Do you still run a healer with her or no?
Yes she is a crowd control not healer, ive run her with a shielder or healer
She is great for early dungeon clears. But after you get good gear she’s less effective. She can basically give a 20 second rotation for bosses. Buff removal and shield.
But felosia, zeffi, oggok, synarell, all good too.
True though he is asking you to choose one and only one
👍I’ll have to give her a try then. I have Felosia and Oggok but I haven’t found anyone who is good enough of a healer to not also need a secondary or a shielder. Was trying to free up a slot
She isn't a healer but does some shield
That's our Mini Felosia before we got Felosia when we needed Frost shield
She and felosia work well together
Hard to pick between zaffi and oggok. Vinyara you probably still can get free like eurion and torrin. She is good but she is specific situation only. Oggok is used a lot and can be game changer. Zaffi i use less but can make impossible to clear fight in to possible. Not using much cos he dont have heal oggok is similar but have heal just oggok imortality is weaker.
In all universal usage... Felosia and Oggok never falls out
Torrin is quite helpful for Melee heroes the best
Oggok is amazing healer not many can heal as strong as him but his heal is burst style not over time so sometimes can give impression its not as strong as it is. Also his ulti heal is delayed in some fights thats not good thing in other fights its hack level good
Okay I rebuild ripekas in stun set with 315 acc and 350 res
Felosia. I don't think i've used another support as much as her
70 days i heard
70 days
With 3-4 days delay to next season
Hello
I remember a zeffi - oggok combo for immortality in OG dragonheir
Hello
Well this ones a no brainer
I was sitting calculating if i can get to 100, then realised it was only 60 levels
and i was 2 away xD
Don't buy for now unless close to 300
I'm setting up to pull 300 on Guin and then Tal 😛
Nice one... Focus on 2 teams for now, once fully worked on, focus on next 2 of another like that 👀
Hii
My dice alone cover Guin banner. Then I'll buy some really nice packs and should be good for Tal banner
I mean, good value packs like one abov e
https://discord.com/channels/928541801260908546/1395043430392135810 remember to use one out CC codes when buying from the shop one bond per player etc
yeah the CC packs are decent also
Fae i have no idea if ill beat 300 by end of season
so im not buying that yet
I’m a returning play just notice I had a summoner named Gaiolere but he is no longer there
although the guys with Talathia have already beat it
so i can probably beat it when i get her
Did they remove Gaiolere from the game
Gaiolere changed to Ladehila
Schalach changed to Sintrellia
Ohhhh I see ty for info
New heros releasing look good
You invested in the smart thing and got punished for it. Game is unfair sometimes
Who's a possible replacement for Diantha as an aura WR applier?
Got everyone except her for a team 😭
From those epics, whomever does the most hits on their ultimate
Or sub in the legendary cat and pray she places it on single hit lmao
cat is a dissapointment for single target 🥲
pretty sure lincos can apply it but there are adventages of it being applied by diathne cos time frame is extended and repeted aoe apply even if new unit enters zone. Lincos is close enough to that but he also lose his energy fast. Cat could do it but lot hit rate so low chance making it gamble. Cos someone mentioned rare and epic i would go for archer for blonde archer (fogot name). Or you could use something other to apply WR like ardeth or some support like rosa or something other...
i keep saying cat is not there for dmg i didnt even scroll her and yes seams ppl want everything to do dmg. Cat is amazing actually but she is not there for dmg
Is the new summoning event right after this one ending or there is a delay?
Tbf, all of aura has 1 damage dealer and people love it haha
was also looking at an archer, will try it out!
yeah, there's only one aura hero that actually deals damage 😄
Your bigger problem now is who takes the def down hit and who wears ancestral protection to keep everyone alive. You could do the offscreen jump trick with anneliesis. It's not optimal but then again neither is missing diantha I guess haha
if you follower s3 and s4 i droped images using frost and using aura... Lincos and diathne, diathne was actually doing more dmg than full frost team on different stuff i tested but most often on guild boss... And this is before they even buff aura. They buff aura on multiple levels then they add anne and thelia
diathne was doing more than frost. But now first of you use her as WR carrier and ofc on top of that thealia is really strong dps so you dont even see that diathne can dps. Ofc not high enough dmg to take serious but she does
Diathne does also just well she is not evne built for dmg she is built for enabling. Lincos does but his dmg is not listed as his dmg do to how he does dmg.
But when you compare that to strong dps well...
Aemon also can do some nice dmg ofc not as strong as thealia
Main thing is she does dmg in deffensive way not in offensive and dont get much chance to see that out of pvp
easy slap rosa and be doen with it have heal and deffense down
That's if he has rose haha
I wish I did. Still hitting 2.6+ with synarrel is suppose
new artifact from homm ?
I mean... There's plenty of supports for the role
No Rosa🥲
Nope, riding without it
i1 talethia, i2 lincos, i1 diantha so nothing too crazy
I like the gamba of wild but dont know if team is good
strange you can pull off that high with sinareel
ooo ok i1 talethia
they can do good single target dmg but too much RNG and problem of team needing 3 enablers to do proper dmg meaning need 1 support to magicaly keep them alive
far from full power still just 30 stacks can go up to 55 from what i saw also bad gear...
New hero makes her even stronger is what I saw
Yea i should test to see what it's like without the i1
also RNG part when this is charge by spells you have perfect cast
New banner hero next week
no actually am supprised cos you lose some of bonuses using non radiance team
also pretty sure they shared some nice scores on vortex on CN server cos of chorak and new artifact for him
Still got north of 2.5m with her i0
strange that you can pull off that dmg cos like i said you lose some of bonuses you can use if full radiance
Exactly. Missing that dragon orb option too
One more sleep! 
What timing do you use ? And formation ??
😬
maybe they add 1 day pause 😛
Yeah probably. Just happy i held. 
i didnt i wanted to pull on both banners XD
needed corrosion dragon, now pulling for wolf kurvida is 2nd place if i get lucky on things but its wolf banner for me... what happens when skiping S5
and yeah kurvida looks like she will be even bigger thing than wolf but well 🤷♂️
My plan is to get Saverio/Kurvida and then Khrysos. I have just enough to summon on those.
Yeah im hoping to get lucky. But i will probably pick Saverio over Kurvida. SO the hope is i pull one of those well before 300.
yeah same but if not lucky then well its wolf banner and we are in S5 not in S6 for that banner XD
by the way checked continental hero. She seams like upgraded version of nataniel XD
dont mean she is better but it really looks like upgraded version hopefully dont end up downgraded like lydia and stanguenum XD
Does the faction specific machichess take gear into account?
depends on gear
frost is really limited in pve
could do ok in some fights like fay for example but dont really excel
Lossenia is just wrecking everything lol
new hero probably will make things different but will not make them good in other content just buff them in content like fay and maybe some specific continental challenge
losania is not even dps she is enabler
what i meant was, does it matter what gear you have on your characters going into magichess?
Since it resets them all anyway
like they have base crit rate etc, they keep books obviously and inspiration
ooo you asking for magiches. No it dont unless there is some bug/exploit but by design no
hero inspiration and legaci coffer upgrades
it also dont play its legacy coffer upgrade
ofc cant use upgrade without exclusive artifact
yes she is but still nothing funnier than she murdering her self maybe even her team when she attack strong aura
dont think we can be sure that what they run on CN server will be same order. Could end up between kurvida and fire/radiance or could be after it with space in between
Yeah lossenia carried my frost
i know shes not a dps properly elsewhere
but early days she carries it
wonder if that no info on what is next baner is part of psihological marketing to stress you about pulling and if you "made mistake" go and spend more... or if its just mess that they have and cant keep up with all that is happening so no info
Nah, doesn't really incorporate much FOMO if you don't know what's coming tbh
she is solid everywhere but she is still not actual dps just enabler. Some enablers are like that can also do good dmg
so they drop wolf and then they drop khrysos how are you saving? You could have saved on ann banner or on 800 banner for talethia... but if you dont know whats comming maybe that aetherial banner looks good. O wait i did mistake now we have this amazing random baner that they will not drop again...
yeah, its like the collabs in raid, but they are way worse. Raid is known for how predatory it is. The most recent champion Bayek from assasins creed was winner takes all - Only the krakens got him. Rest missed out completely
and hes a meta changer, which is awful
yes but thats good way to chase away f2p players and eventually kraken vs kraken is not fun enough and krakens leave also
yep, this game is wayyyyy better as F2P or light spending
raid is malicious and predatory for sure. I do enjoy the content and way its designed but its nasty the way they do things
yep they are probably not wanting to see game idea die
Formation is dependent on who's wearing what pieces of gear so that alone wont be helpful. I have synarrel away from everyone else right now so only 4 are hit in blue phase.
that must be some crazy gear cos even timing are not squizing out all when it comes to dmg output
also i can bet that anne is not doing ulti at 18 as its set there
I found that talethia at 18.1 did worse
Even with everyone else accounted for. I definitely strategically minmaxed gearsets on the supporting cast members. Making the right selections is everything with so many options this season
didn say anything about talethia timer. Ann am sure she dont even do ulti at 18 like its set for starters
talethia does dmg in specific way and so far all timers i see ppl use dont maximize that potential and if you maximize it could have staying alive problems
She doesnt. She does it at 5s like everyone else's. Skipping a round to have her do it in the 30's makes you lose a whole round of solar king's horn which isnt worth it for me. The 18s is vestigial from when I thought it was doing something lol
For talethia isnt it just after her aoe she does her big dmg and you want that during the first 15s of the red head?
Syncing with her battle skill deuff isnt possible as far as I know
not talking about battle skill talking about mechanics how she actually do dmg is unique
Are you gunna spill them beans or keep me wondering 😆
Building her moisture or whatever?
game is saying it all read pasive XD
as a rule, do I use dupe Legendaries for Inspiration ?
Is there a comp that makes Fey Meander a joke?
which artis do I want to grab first ?