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[little pivot]

Put both dauntless dps on the far sides

And garius in the middle

he'll always get spat into the middle 3 spaces

You can't have more than 2 melee range units in that fight besides the tank or else it'll eat random people in the front 3 spaces

[terse estuary]

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[tranquil sparrow]

Just pulled Donella, is she any good?

reading her abilities makes her seem amazing actually

[tulip glade]

I5 team much

[hallow forum]

amazing why ?

[little pivot]

she's pvp only for her whole kit, and mostly a 100% uptime healing prohibition unit for pve

and even then there's usually better light supports to do damage or apply debuffs, she's just the only one that applies healing prohibition for most people

[hallow forum]

Pvp ? I remember how much ppl complained about tempest domain healing. Know whales would not understand pain of that fight for average players. Also not they set that fight to Lightning + Radiance... And we know both have amazing anti healing right ?

[little pivot]

yeah she's good anti-heal

Rest of her kit is usually redundant in my experience

But I think she can work with beefy aura set ups, as the foil to a wall tank that self heals

[hallow forum]

lightning + radiance anti healing options XD

think her bigest problem is that she is close range...

[little pivot]

as it is with every non-tank tbf

[hallow forum]

i mean Accuracy reduction and attack penalty is not bad thing in other fights too but you have other options often better but they really reduced healing counter on radiance element and if combo with another element that dont have it well 😅 few fights can end up pain early in season

but am supprised he call her amazing was wondering why 🤔 😅

[little pivot]

I think particularly with the recent focus on single element teams, characters like her go up in viability

[tranquil sparrow]

I was thinking of using her in Fey tbh, she seemed like a natural fit for a control team

for instance, take a look at Fey 279 - loads of healing, CC, and general nastiness

this many tanks should be illegal

[little pivot]

she's kinda squishy for that level

Even schaltar's likely to get melted

Nastjenka's one of the few melee dps that can get through it with her insane lifesteal synergy

but it might work

[tranquil sparrow]

I set this team to fight and walked away briefly and when I came back they'd won XD

got a new personal best - Fey 280 clear!

[hallow forum]

if you saw how fast things can die 😅 What tanks. Well ofc less options you have harder fight can be.

[bright jetty]

hi guys

[hallow forum]

ripakas is amazing in general unless you need true tank. His debuffs and healing if enemy heal just amazing. Zhal is bring solid amount of control, Torrin can give invisibility and deal with debuffs to extent. And forost is pretty good aoe. So not that supprising. Read austors battle skill was some big ignore defence. And his ulty recharges fast with basic attack... At i2 should actually do more than vidimir

[bright jetty]

this hero good?

[hallow forum]

Not bad but she is more enabler than dps. Meaning she put lots of frost stacks for frost dps (hvitar, austor, vidimir...) so they can do more dmg

can do some ok dmg but she is not actual dps

[bright jetty]

i have this hero can i make frost team?

[hallow forum]

Yeah you have hvitar so just need to build team

[tranquil sparrow]

Hvitar, and Felosia? dang, lucky

[hallow forum]

cant see all that you have so from what you show red ones is what you will use green one is pick 5th according to fight...

Felosia amazing support reduce dmg you take by crazy amount and also prevent enemy from controlling you. Losania best frost enabler. Hvitar strongest frost dps. Eurion amazing true tank hard to kill. and well 5th one you can pick from green ones i marked or something other

Sorry vinyara is also option depending on fight also really good hero but situational cos single target. Cant be stun, remove enemy buffs, reduce enemy energy by 100% (cant cast ulti)... but single target. So when you need her nothing compares to her actually 😅

forst is focusing on AOE dmg. So bit unusuall to use vinyara unles needed

You can also use lucien. Off tank, tend to charge at enemy reduce their recharge of ulti and more

You do have some nice things there for S1. Later on they drop in power and are more pvp thing but still have some uses in S2 and after

you could build different team also... around rally as dps also focusing on AOE dmg

[bright jetty]

my rally team this

[hallow forum]

can work also but i didnt see all that you have... Welllby is pretty good but compared to Hugbert and philto probably will do less dmg

But you are S2 cos i see Zhorak (ice blast)

[bright jetty]

yes s2

[hallow forum]

hmmm guess you missed on lelwanis?

[bright jetty]

I'm back in the game after a long break.

[hallow forum]

Lelwanis is most worthy hero you can get in S1 i mean Lelwanis + her artifact + irzilas + sintrelia (premsa gets less used in S2 cos better option)

S1 best to get is lelwanis + artifact (ofc summon team)
S2 Beldelle + artifact (ice blast team)
S3 Guin (dauntles team)
S4 is well mess there are good things but nothing clearly take this... Burn finally starts to fully shine. Ice blast get upgrade also...

Ofc every season have side teams that are not bad but higlight is what i said there...

[bright jetty]

this is good for hvitar?

[little pivot]

yup

her exclusive artifact is pretty meh compared to that, for pvp

[hallow forum]

depends on fight it let her do dmg ignoring shields so like enemy dont have shield. Crit chance is also not bad stat on her

but some fights you would use other items

[void fulcrum]

I heard I should take a break from the game for more awards. Thoughts?

[shell iris]

Don’t underestimate Gillian and Acilia! Both are superb! Old tutorials are full of Garius, because nobody had them in old times ^^

[shell iris]

Look here: #📢┆game-announcements message

[fathom quiver]

Too late for that lol

[native rampart]

Can we have 2 character on the same server?

[light thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/penguin-hello-hi-cute-gif-13905880940590312511

[golden grove]

Why would you want to?

[golden grove]

Good morning 🙂 ☕️

[light thistle]

good morning too ☕

[golden grove]

Woke up all excited thinking it was select summons day, but its tomorrow 🤦‍♀️

[light thistle]

🤣 yeah it's tomorrow

[golden grove]

Should have stayed in bed lol

[terse rapids]

Since we are moving from s1 to latest season directly still better to get lelwanis artifact or save and get ice blast directly? Thx

[golden grove]

Id get her artifact

[hallow forum]

S4 continental IB teams do 250-500 summon teams do 400-800. You need 6 teams not 1 team that do high dmg not 1 team.

[terse rapids]

Sorry I don't understand

[hallow forum]

Continental challenge before end boss...

Summon being in top 2 or top 3 teams for 3-4 seasons now.

Burn is at moment in S4 highest score. Then cirrosion then summon.

[native rampart]

My 2 account merging to next season today

[golden grove]

I understand your S1 and will be going straight into s6. Get lelwanis artifact

[hallow forum]

IB tend to work good early season on virtex and first clears osome dungeons then it fall of. Its team you want to make ofc but trying to put things in to perspective.

1 team will get you nowhere. Need 6 teams.

[golden grove]

If your servers are merging, you will already know what servers you are being merged with

[terse rapids]

Thx @hallow forum @golden grove appreciate that

[native rampart]

Yes, what i mean is can 2 accounts exist at the same time on one server, i worry 1 account will be gone

[golden grove]

No if they are 2 separate accounts then they will stay

[native rampart]

I see, thx

[golden grove]

My IB team has never fallen off, they have been and still are one of my best teams to clear content and fey.

[hallow forum]

If i was s1 i would try to complete summon first so artifact and heroes. Then work on other good teams. IB, dauntles, burn. Corrosion is tricky need lots of investment to work but is one of strong teams.

[golden grove]

Thats what I told them to do, get lels artifact lol

[hallow forum]

Dauntles does more mid season. And on continental at moment dauntless and IB are low scores 😅

Vortex at moment its 30% ice dmg. Rook making IB with bonus look like joke.

[terse rapids]

I saw this echo summon on new season where we can select 2 rare legendary and 4 other legendary for 800 pulls in skratch YouTube video so was wondering if pulling there is better idea

[fathom quiver]

Only with two different emails if you really want that

[golden grove]

Yes but they are going into season 6 from season 1, so my advice is get lels artifact

[hallow forum]

I said i would complete summon team then work on other good teams and listed

[golden grove]

I couldn't think of anything worse than having to heroes on the same server. Who even has time to play 2 accounts lol

[fathom quiver]

I wouldn't recommend it either

But that is up to each player individually

We also don't support multiple game instances open if I remember correctly

[golden grove]

Imagine building 12 teams for CC, I have a breakdown building 6 🤭

[hallow forum]

Tried when game was slow... but then things get more active and well give up 1 is enough 🤣😂

[golden grove]

I had an alt account but that was from OG seasons because I got bored

[fathom quiver]

Maybe that used to be good

But man that is too much time for me xD

[hallow forum]

Didnt i show frost 200 on sigrid yesterday... show setup that works. No timing not even fully scroled 🤣😂

[golden grove]

I couldnt think of anything worse than building 12 teams 😭

[hallow forum]

Building is easy RNG make you waste time 🤣😂

[golden grove]

Absolutely not i have RL going on, I like to touch grass on a daily basis lol

[hallow forum]

Remove rng and its fast setup run done 🤣😂

[golden grove]

Im getting that fed up with repetitveness im thinking I may just auto run these last 2 bosses this week, my competitive streak is dying slowly

[light thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/girls-kissing-tired-cat-tired-cat-gif-3943232585613196517

[hallow forum]

But when you have to run 1 team 10 times well thank you rng 😅

[golden grove]

I dont care for ranking this season, im over it lol

[hallow forum]

Nah back to sleep can aford it 🤣😂

[light thistle]

don't tempt me

rally without gladys , it's a real joke ...

[hallow forum]

Works for pilars 🤣😂

[light thistle]

test rally without gladys on CC huldork, just for see

[hallow forum]

Maybe later 🤣😂

[light thistle]

i can try TB on feenja, without perkunte's artif, will be funny too -_-

https://tenor.com/view/hamster-naju-gif-13213731634680237056

[hallow forum]

Use lothair 😅

[light thistle]

don't have

i need all that :

[hallow forum]

Use premsa 😅

But wonder how vicana would perform vs feenja maybe could be built to do solid

[light thistle]

u know me

[hallow forum]

O i forgot sorry. Use ozul 😅

Well wild and poison one of them should do acceptable dmg on feenja

Maybe even both could work

[light thistle]

made it for us please 😄

[hallow forum]

Perkunte arti make him do more dmg vs 1-3 targets so big difference in that fight

[hallow forum]

Maybe later. Now i contemplating about more sleep 🤣😂

[light thistle]

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[fathom quiver]

https://tenor.com/view/chicken-gif-7202518248086882735

haha get your sleep enma

[light thistle]

2 times isn't too much? 🤣

[fathom quiver]

It's good to be sleeping

Never

3 is too much xD

[light thistle]

ahaha

[golden grove]

When you have built your TB team please share the team code because im lazy 🤭

[light thistle]

without perkunte's artif please 🤣

[golden grove]

And if theres a shadow team floating around, send that code too 😁🤭

[light thistle]

The Lazy Team

🤣

[golden grove]

Yes and I dont have Aourora, so if you can build a team using orfeena and Nathaniel, I would be eternally grateful 🙏 🤭

[light thistle]

....

[golden grove]

I dont even know what that is lol

[light thistle]

are u kidding ?

[golden grove]

Those numbers are how old i feel this morning 😁😁

[native rampart]

Scouting exist you know

[golden grove]

Scouting?

[light thistle]

Granny Bink scouting 🤣

[lunar coral]

Hi guys, I have a problem I’m not able to open the boundless chest to move the gear to the new season, it’s a bug for all or just for me?

[native rampart]

Gather intel and testing strat in blade colloseum

[light thistle]

#1480545489681256619 message

[tranquil sparrow]

Tried building a Toxin team for this, did awful damage in sim. Do I just ignore the modifier and bring Ol' Reliable?

[lunar coral]

Ty

I want Tiamat soo bad :/

[analog sun]

https://tenor.com/view/hmm-suspect-gif-22611582

[golden grove]

And you need 2 accounts to do that?

[analog sun]

I'd like to hear that to, how does that work?

[native rampart]

Yeah, for me more always good, i dont build the other account, its just there to see the meta on blade colloseum,luckily i got rank 1 season

[light thistle]

in #🐉┆off-topic-chat thanks.

[fathom quiver]

I'm sorry @tough canyon but only Dragonheir content here.
Congratulations nevertheless!

you have been warned!

[tranquil sparrow]

Tonalnan/Errich is enough DPS for a Wild team if you don't have much else, right?

Absolutely nothing going on here

[fathom quiver]

It is a start

Follie or the one with the hat on the right can be helpful as well

Also Caraman if you want to assassinate enemies

[analog sun]

for what?

[tranquil sparrow]

trying to clear the final Pillar of Wildfire for S1

[analog sun]

should be fine ya

[tranquil sparrow]

my dps is awful, I have no clue why i can't seem to get anything decent out of errich's damage

probably a gear thing, but then again it's always a gear thing

[tulip glade]

Nope errich is just meh. I've had tonalnan do a lot better

[fathom quiver]

Wild is also quite RNG heavy

[tulip glade]

Caraman tonalnan follie

[fathom quiver]

Errich mostly served me as a Witches Remains applier

[vagrant star]

gentlemen, I can't access the item storage after the Final boss defeat

is this intended or a bug ?

[tulip glade]

And tonalnan is cheap

[tulip glade]

Bug

[tranquil sparrow]

wait, WR on Errich? this is an idea...

[fathom quiver]

https://discord.com/channels/928541801260908546/1480545489681256619

It is being worked on

Please look out for announcement when it will be repaired

[vagrant star]

damn

[light thistle]

if u don't have felicity yeah

[vagrant star]

my season might end before it's fixed 😅

thank you for the info!

[fathom quiver]

You're welcome

[fathom quiver]

I pray for that not to be the case

[vagrant aurora]

The fix is online afaik

[tulip glade]

They said if If I have nothing, they will give u bis main stat for merged season

It's not all lost

[vagrant star]

oh, nice

[tulip glade]

I am still having the issue

[fathom quiver]

I tried PC and mobile and both is not working

[vagrant star]

I'm still moving to S4, though

[tulip glade]

Maybe it's online only for special people 😭

[fathom quiver]

i have downloaded a small update yesterday though and still nothing new

or updated

[analog sun]

errich's is there for the passive

[vagrant aurora]

I just got the info 5 mins ago that the fix is live

Restart the game

[fathom quiver]

I'll try

[tulip glade]

I try

[vagrant aurora]

🙂

[tulip glade]

Oh ye

U right it's fixed

[light thistle]

u doubted ? 🤣

[tulip glade]

Yes.

[light thistle]

shameful 🤣

[tulip glade]

Always doubt until proven.

[light thistle]

@fathom quiver it's u ? 🤣

[fathom quiver]

He learned good!

[vagrant star]

it's working!

now... I only need good pieces

maybe compensation was better option 💀

[tulip glade]

Just don't put anything in

[vagrant star]

that's what she ...

[tulip glade]

Just so that I can reference what am saying

[fathom quiver]

The bad stuff is though that substats are not taken with you

So best would be to put anything in what even isn't in the new season and just choose what equip you want your stats on

[vagrant star]

meh, random substats doesn't sound good 🙁

[fathom quiver]

My thought as well

[tulip glade]

Tru. But if my subs end up being flat atk def and hp. I woulf rather random

[fathom quiver]

In the end your choice

Maybe trying to get good/decent chest/gloves to transfer is now best option

[tulip glade]

Like here's my best piece after farming this 20 runs already

20 x 3

[fathom quiver]

20 runs is nothing^^

[tulip glade]

20 x 3

[vagrant star]

my last hope rolls be like:

[tulip glade]

What am trying to get to is. There's no guarantee I will get any better than this

[vagrant star]

I feel this

[fathom quiver]

That's sadly the gear issue rng at the moment

I allso have no red atk main glove with enl sub^^

[tulip glade]

Ehh something to throw a tantrum about I guess. Some negativity is great to have conversations going

[tranquil sparrow]

if you don't have an exclusive legendary dps, Wild is kinda awful, huh? Like, I see people in vortex doing top damage with 4 wild dps but it's all legendaries like Flora/Felicity/Caspar/Errich or something, y'know?

[light thistle]

it's often here, probably everydays 🤣

[fathom quiver]

In Vortex and Endboss Dauntless epics/rares do a surprisingly good job

[tulip glade]

Tbf Id rather not it be often. Just once in a while. It would show the game is listening to players but still keeping it monetized well

[light thistle]

Sometimes I get the impression that they listen to the players a little too much.

[tulip glade]

Tru. For the most part unless u want to compete with whales. Epics are fine. They will allow u to clear content. It will take a bit more skill and luck with equipment to get the max reward, but possible.

[tranquil sparrow]

I cannot trust luck in this game, it doesn't exist for me

[analog sun]

https://tenor.com/view/zaunvi-caitvitwt-gif-1251875630135871970

[tranquil sparrow]

Guess I just gotta git gud

[fathom quiver]

But competeing with whales you either need to be against not trying whales or just forget it

you can't compensate with strategy if the whale even uses half of his strength for a bit optimizing

[tulip glade]

In that case. Please give everyone on the server merge 1 random exclusive from each season. That way the people who didn't play the seasons will enjoy, and the whales will also get some inspirations. Everyone happy

[light thistle]

u can create a post in #1144580078408302703 for that 🙂

[tulip glade]

Yes. U can't. Like legit one flora will roll all the epics. I think the only balanced exclusive is thelendor. Huberg and philto can do a lot

[tulip glade]

It's never happening. Just a wish to the world

[tranquil sparrow]

example of bad luck: team clears Pillar 6, I go to autoraid for faster clear, Errich dies during adds encounter number 2 and causes me to fail out because I lack his WR application

Adolphus has no trouble keeping most of the team alive

[tulip glade]

If u have enough DPS u can try follie rash tonalnan. And let tonalnan apply wr

[tranquil sparrow]

I'm running follie/errich/tonalnan

[tulip glade]

How many hits does errich have om ult?

[analog sun]

why not use poison? it has better aoe

[tranquil sparrow]

welp, follie just bit the dust 1s before Adolphus popped ult.

I need debuff clearing, these toxin stacks are annoying

[tulip glade]

Looks like u need more skill haste

[tranquil sparrow]

i'm in the struggle

so hourglass or something for Adolphus?

[fathom quiver]

If Ergander survives you can give him also Ancestral Protection

[tranquil sparrow]

Ergander manages to live by the skin of his teeth but he's doing OK as a tank

[tulip glade]

Or 2 and 2

Or if u have runes with skill haste

[fathom quiver]

Ys and blue shoe equip on Follie

[vagrant star]

BLOODY HELL

this season wants me to suffer

[tranquil sparrow]

oof, that's rough

[tulip glade]

Does ergander have enough acc btw?

[light thistle]

welcome in the suffer commun 😄

[tranquil sparrow]

probably not lmao, i gotta prioritize so much other stuff for him

[tulip glade]

Cause his reduce ult energy is really good. It allows u to cycle u're ults before others in pillar

Specially if u can place him to target those who u are against ulting

I mean u already have +50 acc from the affinity system.

[tranquil sparrow]

Hasty Adolphus is actually great and I love him

[vagrant star]

at this point I'm just rolling on everything to see what happens

[fathom quiver]

definitely

[analog sun]

https://tenor.com/view/nikke-goddess-of-victory-nikke-dorothy-doro-plot-gif-4212094118612625100

[fathom quiver]

I'll probaby do that later as well

[tranquil sparrow]

yo let's go, got the clear!

[fathom quiver]

Got like 200M gold or so

[light thistle]

when i'll relaunch the game, i'll try to refind the item for show u i'm in the same case 🤣

[fathom quiver]

DOn't know what to do

Also I should do some challenge runs xD

[tulip glade]

Take a break

[light thistle]

+4 in defense flat, u can feel my disappointment

[tranquil sparrow]

lend me your energy/luck so I can get felosia without hitting the 300 pity

[tulip glade]

Allahu akbar

[tranquil sparrow]

inshallah, we will acquire the waifus

[tulip glade]

Why u react like this

Not spent enough time on 9gag I see

[tranquil sparrow]

You've met me at a very [REDACTED] time in my life

[analog sun]

https://tenor.com/view/doro-gif-6242625517820991461

[light thistle]

?

[tulip glade]

Not u. The people who reacted to my comment lmao

This game and it's drip marketing bruh

Like legit. Why u telling me new character on march 27th with rewards. But not telling me the rewards

Edging

[keen blaze]

I haven't been playing for close to a year and I just saw a post on Reddit about a reborn version.

Can I ask if the game is getting overhauled again?

[tulip glade]

No

Reborn is same as regular

It's called reborn in US

It's called dragonheir everywhete Else

[keen blaze]

Okay. Thank you

[tulip glade]

Although there is a big thing happening. All players are going to be moved to latest season on April 7th @keen blaze

[keen blaze]

The post also mentions March 27th. I assume this is a significant event coming up?

[tulip glade]

And you will be in servers with other players who are from whatever season u came from

[tulip glade]

No March 27th is new aura hero release

[keen blaze]

Ah. These reddit posts are pretty vague, lol.

Thank you

[tulip glade]

I don't know how significant that will be.

Maybe significant for people who saved hellios or whales

[keen blaze]

I was curious because I vaguely remember a video from skratch (I think) about changes coming to improve QoL

I felt that was it finally, lol

[tulip glade]

But u should look up on the April 7th. That's big

[fathom quiver]

we have huge changes basically putting everyone in the same sesaon with some catch up mechanics for later seasons

[tulip glade]

Catch up mechanic For earlier seasons

[tulip glade]

Imagine losing heroes so ure account can catch up to earlier seasons lmao

[keen blaze]

Assuming one wanted to start fresh for the event. What would that look like? Access to every hero in subsequent seasons? Increased resources for beginners?

I'm not sure what the "catch-up mechanics" are, 😂

[fathom quiver]

Nah that won't happen

[fathom quiver]

probably resources to summon, maybe rewards so you can get a hero (not exclusive) from one of the seasons you missed

That would be my guess

[quick shell]

seems like you can pick

[fathom quiver]

Is it official?

Also only for catch-up?

[quick shell]

its from CN version

[quick shell]

you can pick those are the options

i guess what you get depends on your account

[fathom quiver]

Sounds promising

And thanks for sharing ❤️

[gaunt bough]

guys, does anyone have wild team setup for the freenja CC boss?

[alpine oracle]

seems like you reset to season 1 and after that you would shoot to current season

[alpine oracle]

Dragonstride™

[indigo temple]

So this option is for those that want to start from 0?

[fathom quiver]

depending on previous spendings

[quick shell]

yeah seems so

[terse estuary]

Top Up now and receive 5% extra crystals: Official Website

[indigo temple]

Hopefully we get a full picture soon.

[light thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/loading-gif-buffering-gif-5388999

[royal plank]

Sup peeps, how are we all?

[light thistle]

fine & u?

[sleek acorn]

Hi guys, have some replacement to pekunte? maybe orfena?

[tulip glade]

orfenna is great. but no one is replacing perkunte

yes u can make thunderbolt work with orfenna. but not like a team with perkunte

theres a reason he holds odins lightning bolt...

[indigo temple]

🫠

[light thistle]

give me ur gladys 🤣

[indigo temple]

Perkunte wont be replaced. But Orfenna has been replaced by the new thunder EX. Even if you dont have that EX a standard Perkunte/Niessa and Scharlactan is enough to make the team work.

Unfortunately Orfenna has no place.

[indigo temple]

Starting to get closer. Need some timings.

[light thistle]

yeah, i just need gladys 🤣

without her it's a nightmare to do a correct score

[royal plank]

Yeah all good just been super busy with work amongst other stuff. Just want to play games and eat junk food.

[light thistle]

ahah yeah i understand that ^^

[shell iris]

🙂

[tranquil sparrow]

clash of the titans

[shell iris]

🤣

[gaunt bough]

guys, who can i use in thunderbolt team isntead of perkunte?

[light thistle]

nobody

it's like wanted play summon team without lewanis 🙃

[gaunt bough]

so what to do with freenja?

[light thistle]

good question

[tulip glade]

give me

[gaunt bough]

i can do 120 mil with nissa and orfenna

[tulip glade]

i want feenja pls

theodemer misses her

[gaunt bough]

orfenna is not an enlightment hero right?

[tulip glade]

she is

all lightning bolt are enlight

[gaunt bough]

but when i change her gear from DPS to enlightment, she deals way way less damage, why is that

[tulip glade]

deritive != enlightenment

derivative

[gaunt bough]

yeah but she deals almost double damage in CR/CD gear than Enl gear

[tulip glade]

oh wait my bad. does it say enlight on any of her skills?

[gaunt bough]

no it does not

[light thistle]

launch game

[tulip glade]

bro am s1

[gaunt bough]

alhtought he aura is enl +60 in all abttle, dont know why

[light thistle]

this aura is mainly for Perkunte.

for the rest she need only attack and accuracy

[tulip glade]

electrocuted says it deals [+35% Attack] Lightning Derivative damage

so basically. i am wrong.
the way orfenna works, is the more electrocuted stacks, the more damage she does. but some other lightning bolt heroes do only electrocute damage. For those heroes, they need more enlight. but orfenna only needs more stacks of electrocute

[gaunt bough]

yeah, but as i said, i tried with both gears, dont know why she deals way more damage with CR/CD

[tulip glade]

yes ure right. she is cr cd

but if say perkunte is in ure team, her leader ability is great

[gaunt bough]

well. looks like i will have to be happy with 150 mil in freeja boss

[tulip glade]

cause perkunte scales with enlight

[gaunt bough]

i did not go for perkunte, instead i went for ASSchetius, biggest mistake

every season, ASSchetius is being overthrown by a burn rare or the burn epic

[tulip glade]

ehhh. unless u wanna beat whales, id say go for whoever u feel is more fun for u

[gaunt bough]

hilarious

i tried the wild team, i failed miserably

[tulip glade]

the end of each season (in the old game) was super annoying, with daily hits. honestly the most boring part of the season. Having heroes u actually like, and seeing the animations of will give u some enjoyment

[tulip glade]

wild is nerfed to the ground (not nerfed, just did not gain much compared to every other damage type)

[gaunt bough]

true, before the rework, having forced to build 15 teams was a Big No No for avergae players

[tulip glade]

u mind telling me whats different now? i havent experienced the last month yet. and probably wont for another 3 months

[indigo temple]

https://klipy.com/gifs/patrick-star-PyB

1 mo team

[outer sable]

Anyone else a little annoyed at the change to the boundless chest rules? Specifically in the fact that some of us chose a piece of gear to craft so that we could bring it into next season (just like we did the last 3 seasons) and now that piece cannot be brought forward…

[indigo temple]

That piece could never be brought forward

You build it in S1, you wont be able to carry it to S3.

That's always been the case

[hallow forum]

just stuck in game before reboot XD

[outer sable]

You are misunderstanding…. A piece crafted in S1 can be brought into S2, S2 can be brought to S3, etc…. And the piece could be brought no matter the set.

The rule change is that now, if the set is unavailable in the next season, you can bring it but must choose a set available and then it will re-roll random stats. So, no point in bringing a piece from a set unavailable in the new season or it may become completely useless

[hallow forum]

orfena dont do anything literally anything... And electricuted it self is joke now... what it does is make lightning jump 1 more time. defoult ligntning jump cound 3, max lightning jump count 10... pretty sure nisa and perkunte alone can make enough jumps for that... And orfena does nothing in end on top of unreliable applying bad debuff XD

[hallow forum]

cos she dont do derivative at all unless if you set talent to trigger chain lightning with basic attack 30% chance XD

[indigo temple]

Ah i see. Its not a change i have seen I will need to read up on it.
But looking at the wording, i think its meant to bring a bit of challenge to the selection as well. Some strategy if you will.

[outer sable]

I am not annoyed at the change itself, just the timing. If they had made this change before the crafting event completed for my server, I would have crafted a different piece. Now, the piece I crafted is no good for next season.

[indigo temple]

Thats fair. They should have communicated better

[indigo temple]

Im 5/6 teams, what are we using for Feenja?

[light thistle]

TB x)

[hallow forum]

still didnt try but am sure i could make few teams to do it, TB, wild, poison, shadow just need to see how to keep them alive long enough XD

[indigo temple]

Noone else besides Orfenna is scrolled sadly

[indigo temple]

Im looking for a Shadow team

[light thistle]

🤣 i don't have perkunte's artifact 🤣

[indigo temple]

Same

[light thistle]

we share the same suffer 🤣

[hallow forum]

i dont even want to scroll her she is useless even rare and epic are more usefull and TB have horrible rare and epic aside from 2

[indigo temple]

https://klipy.com/gifs/patrick-star-PyB

[hallow forum]

damn forgot i should try to make hvitar hit 200 on feenja XD

[light thistle]

we can do it with talwer 😄

[indigo temple]

Do it, im rooting for you

[hallow forum]

but this is taking too much time form me instead of doing other stuff... ok at least this score is acceptable

[light thistle]

u need more inspirations

[hallow forum]

I need more dices game dont give enough XD

[light thistle]

u can stole paranoid 🤣

[hallow forum]

why from him? I like guy... you steal from ppl you dont like XD

[light thistle]

He's rolling in it 😄

it's just a loan 🤣

[hallow forum]

so loan suspicious chicken not shark ? XD

[light thistle]

chicken hate fire 😄

[indigo temple]

🤬 hopefully i find a way soon

[light thistle]

try toxin ?

[light thistle]

AI 🤣

[vagrant star]

Wait whaat, the waifu is useless? I was looking forward to roll her🥲

nvm confused here with barefeet waifu

[tulip glade]

btw the hourglass works on all ults. I tested it. Its a perma skill haste

[hallow forum]

not sure just goodled it knew there must be something like that XD

damn first try guess derivative dmg is not much buffed XD

[tulip glade]

why do u only have 2 dps? i mean 2 frost applies

[hallow forum]

didnt know other frost dps do derivative dmg XD

[light thistle]

try ur toxin team @hallow forum ^^

[hallow forum]

cant try 2-3 things at same time

[light thistle]

🤣

[hallow forum]

would be easy if game run like that

[light thistle]

make an effort 🤣 🤣

[hallow forum]

tell devs to let me run 3 different things in game

[indigo temple]

Lets skip to S6

[light thistle]

this idea can be posted here #1144580078408302703 if u want do it 😄

[hallow forum]

no now i want to see if frost can be made to work on that fight XD

cos that would be funny XD

[light thistle]

🤣

[indigo temple]

[native rampart]

Guys how much is the reward for dungeon speedrunning 1? Is it 10k or 1k for rank 1

[indigo temple]

🥺

Sorry about that. This is what i wanted to paste

50k or there abouts

[native rampart]

I dont think the answer need entire slide show, but thanks

[indigo temple]

Wow

Well I learned a lesson today.

[vale cliff]

yeah don't show screenshots, man! One or two words answers only

Bjorn is not down with images - keep it short and simple!

[native rampart]

Ah, I see

[native rampart]

Its a slide show that have been deleted, im just joking saying that

[vale cliff]

yes

[indigo temple]

@hallow forum this is one of the CN teams that achieved 200m.

I am missing or have used Tiamat so I have to try and replace her

@would Aldiah work @hallow forum

[hallow forum]

yeah but part of problem is what if you need tiamat or astaion on something other XD

[tranquil sparrow]

I gotta say, the roguelite mode is pretty fun. Summons/Frost builds still goated tho

[indigo temple]

I basically have all 5 teams and have posted those scores. I need one more and that's the one I'm working on now

[hallow forum]

but tiamat timing is good in that image only one really important actually 😅

[little pivot]

Actually best for that is still poison/dauntless

Frost is comparatively quite bad

[tranquil sparrow]

i've been getting dauntless buffs but I didn't pick any dauntless heroes

[indigo temple]

Not even a Donnella could pull it off? 🥹

[tranquil sparrow]

rip me

[little pivot]

Frost's mostly just lacking because their tree is not designed well. It's a lot of frost application and very little damage buff

whereas dauntless hyperscales with buffs to basically everything they do

[tranquil sparrow]

nod nod I see, I see...

[little pivot]

And poison just clears in 3 secs or less

cus their exclusive is disgusting for speed clears

[hallow forum]

pretty sure fight is getting bonus dmg if same element only used. So you lose some bonus. But maybe am remembering wrong what donela does think she dont have right tools XD

accuracy penalty would be nice ofc but she is missing remove buffs or buff prohibition if am remembering right

remove buffs would probably be better option but if hero have at least remove 2 buffs or all

@indigo temple hit 110 with frost and didnt SS now cant go over 80 game and RNG is funny XD

[indigo temple]

Then maybe i will need to dust off my Poison 🥺

For instance, these guys

[tranquil sparrow]

I like the tigerfolk a lot, design-wise

[hallow forum]

not sure if vicana would do enough dmg on it could end up enough but seams like that team can work buff prohibition, energy manipulation, attack penalty and ofc clear debuffs

[indigo temple]

Another CN team. I am missing Lothair. The rest i have.

[hallow forum]

thats different story lothair can be made to work only need to keep him alive...

[latent matrix]

if you are desperate for Feenja CC team, poison, Hvitar, or solo Premtsa teams all can do 200-220M. Premtsa is easiest to survive with 4 supports

[hallow forum]

but not sure why they put extra remove debuffs think probably oggok would be enough

[indigo temple]

And without? Who would be a replacement?

[hallow forum]

trying hvitar here for probally 2h now and best she did is 110 but yeah love when ppl say random crap like that

[latent matrix]

have 2 ranged supports with 1 of them tanking, manual jump lothair's first ult to the farthest side with his ult hitting both Feenja and Theo and he will not take any dmg except theo ult

[light thistle]

and huldork if u don't have gladys for rally team ? 🤣

[indigo temple]

Interested to see how this works.

[latent matrix]

Hvitar took way more work for me than either poison or solo Premtsa. Her derivative needs high skill haste to almost perma ult wind + many many frost on bosses + I had to use Dorkuraz to carry the Death Record debuff so she can full dps gear - not worth the effort when easier teams out there

[latent matrix]

if you dont have gladys, you can still rally with Philto - he will get hit super hard toward the end. I had Sagomir tank with Gillian healing

[hallow forum]

her derivative last 15 sec and no haste ulti is 18 sec not that hard

even if you have 2 sec down on it difference would not be crazy it wont make 80-110 in to 200

[latent matrix]

Lazy Hvitar team with just Lossenia and Hvitar also works for easy 200M on Huldork

[hallow forum]

it work on sigrid

on feenja if she dont die (80m) she will do best 110m making her ulti 15 sec wont make her go from 110 to 200

making her ulti 15 instead of 17 wont give you missing 95m

this does reduce it a little but well CD on it...

it make it in to 15,5 if you make it you have like 0.5 sec without ulti if that compensate for 95m then something seriously wrong with game

[latent matrix]

from the positioning above I think Hvitar getting hit by Feenja's atk down? cant tell. I use different setups on my team as well

[hallow forum]

in that one yes in 105 no she is only one that dont get hit by it

voresh did better cos boss have less dmg reduction

[latent matrix]

this is my setup for Hvitar

[hallow forum]

17 sec hvitar ulti cd. peppeter set reduce it by 10% so 17x0.9= 15.3. Her ulti last 15 sec 0.3 sec down on derivative dmg

[latent matrix]

My lossenia also using the conch, and I have tank on the Titan rib since you can have the dmg buff up perma

[hallow forum]

its 20% at start but if you look at things you have higher stats to beging with and only thing i can do is drop stats they wont go up...

up enlightmend drop attack by 1k

or worse

i can bet also maxed ice/necrosis so its not even same

[latent matrix]

I also have the devout prayer buff from shield

[hallow forum]

think i losed that in proces of swaping teams and testing didnt realize its not one

[latent matrix]

honestly I stacked so much to make it worth in the end I just settled on way easier Premtsa

[hallow forum]

premsa does sound like she could work didnt test but higher derivative dmg and basically same thing its constant dmg

but am sure can make lothait to hit solid number or perkunte or maybe even wild

but would be cool if hvitar would work

they died in last sec of fight red text pop they die XD

[latent matrix]

also yes I am maxed Psych core on ice/dark

[hallow forum]

now that could end up doing enough to push to 200

[latent matrix]

you also missing perma Titan rib debuff from the looks of it

[hallow forum]

as you saw this conch and shield 15% buff add only 10m more

[latent matrix]

and the box

[hallow forum]

if i add it only one that can carry it is lucien and that make him ulti less so less slow down on boss and more dmg... they alreadi died

[latent matrix]

im using alphanarsy/felosia to tank btw

[hallow forum]

box vs horns...

my shield bonus buff was on alpanarsi but well i can show you how things can go with him things die easier cos boss get more power up

[gaunt bough]

in the new season, looks like we will have 800 summon banner train with 100,200,300,400,600,800. Not sure why its not 400,500,600. So its better to pull upto 300 and wait for next banner right? Or is it like you have to go all the way to 800 to get anything out of it?

[gaunt bough]

use that team against any other boss, like the boss that gets more damage per debuff

[latent matrix]

I think I had Titan rib on Alpha, Box on healer - Astaion if u got her. Voresh on the antlers

you definitely need Voresh to block the buffs boss gets

[hallow forum]

that mean this bonus is down

you take 30% more dmg and do 30% less dmg

voresh for sure does good cos remove some of buffs and block but used now this guy for his 20% buff for hvitar

[latent matrix]

Voresh is ice and it wouldnt matter since Hvitar already gets that buff from having other ice. Unless this means for each hero of same element u get 30% extra which I do not think is the case?

[indigo temple]

🫠

[light thistle]

perfect that 👌

[hallow forum]

actually didnt test bout sounds as need 5 heroes of same element to activate it

[rocky oracle]

Doesnt say you need everyone

[hallow forum]

bit unreliable healing and too much RNG 😅

[rocky oracle]

Unless its crappy translation again

[bold iris]

good lord off season is so boring, XD 1 full week of nothing to do but braindead dailies is pretty rough

[hallow forum]

would be nice if you could actually see indicator when that buff is active. So only thing you can do is guess if it works based on dmg you take and dmg you do... And wording actually sound more like needing all heroes to be same element

there is no indicator of that effect being active or not

[rocky oracle]

Ill add it on report

[indigo temple]

Any s4-0018 server inhabitants here?

[hallow forum]

ppl hated season design and reset in general imagine removing farming gear and stuff how much more nothing to do...

[light thistle]

or do 15000 goblins per day than before reborn 🤣

[hallow forum]

see something to do 😅 🤣

[bold iris]

i don't mind the gear, even though this season gearing luck was a nightmare for me. Def got carry by me being a whale so I can see why people would get mad over it. Hopefully improvement will come

[light thistle]

to do list : dont give ideas to enma 🤣

[sturdy dock]

Who should I take from:
I have Grishnar and Berengar both without artefact

[light thistle]

reytah or elecebre i think

[hallow forum]

we didnt talk about luck thats different thing you said boring nothing to do. I pointed out that ppl hated season desing where they reset stuff and you need to farm. Remove farming and its even less things to do... if you are bored now imagine if you had less things to do in general...

[hallow forum]

probably rheyta... Imagine having none in that image after 8 seasons XD

[bold iris]

ah ok

[rocky oracle]

F2p old world

[latent matrix]

The Premtsa setup, you can replace the healers and tank, I just threw my favs in

[hallow forum]

well imagine spending on game when its stuck in season 4 for like 4-5 reruns... ppl just quit

[sturdy dock]

so, you wouldnt go for artefact? But yes, it is heavy

[rocky oracle]

Yeah hard sad times

[latent matrix]

cant run Hvitar cos I accidentally saved a test run LOL....sad...but if you got Felosia etc itd be better

[hallow forum]

with how offten i miss rheyta (dont miss as much any of others in that image) i would not even see them let alone their artifacts 😅

[sturdy dock]

I already missed all of them. Most are great, really great in arena

[hallow forum]

for example they changed domains to be only elements that you get cristals for...

now this means need to remove debuffs boss put or well boss will speed up like crazy and kill you cant keep up in timing...

dispell debuffs options cos fire+poison dont have debuff imunity...

so from options you have here oggok remove 1 debuff, calavera remove 1 debuff around her 1 tile. Others remove 1 debuff. Only vicuc remove 2. Boss put so much more than 2

so only 2 here that remove all debuffs is synarell and reytah

also her debuff extending, dmg reduction, healing... just lots of stuff making her really significant in fights

over well let me make wild team work or let me make strong pvp team... with artifacts...

and this is just 1 example

[latent matrix]

Ok here is same setup except with full ice team. Several things happen here: Premtsa desync from Voresh's witches buff because she doesn't have Puppeteer resulting in expected dps loss. Aladia dies at last few seconds but she doesn't matter, I just threw her in for full ice team. So either the elemental bonus buff is small or not worth all the other stuff if you have to use mix team

[rocky oracle]

How does that even work

[light thistle]

alphanarsy full enlight give approx 65k shield

[rocky oracle]

Yeah but only premsta as damager without other summons

[light thistle]

voresh WR i think

premtsa full attack + enlightment

[latent matrix]

premtsa's dps comes from her AOEs stacking multiple times on close targets

[light thistle]

rota 18 sec

[latent matrix]

ye in this case here the dps loss is from premtsa desync from dps buff....I dont think the boss bonus buffs even matter

[rocky oracle]

Yeah im just so used to you needing more than you one of a kind for damagers to work that this hurts my head

[latent matrix]

premtsa is always an easy 200M if you have multiple targets stacking closely and some other boss bonus like AOE dmg, or in this case enl dmg. She is your guarantee 200M solo dps for f2p/lazy people like me

[rocky oracle]

Good to know!!

[light thistle]

The advantage here is that Feenja and Theodemer are right next to each other, so Premtsa's little summons hit both of them 🙂

[latent matrix]

yes, thats the key so premtsa, her AOEs on each target hits surrounding targets. like in pvp if you bunch up she will slap your entire bunch

And finally here is the poison team for anyone interested. i0 Lothair no exc artifact. You manual the first ult to jump him behind Feenja. No timings on the i3 Oggok or the Garrika. This setup survives the whole fight 220M ish.

[light thistle]

someone from server 6 here ?

[hallow forum]

actually bosses have energy reduction or drain so they cast faster based on that am sure you put premsa somewhere where she dont get attacked so high chance she would de sync even if she was affected by puppeteer set

[hallow forum]

she does have unique summons that skulls that circle and its battle skill. Her summons do derivative dmg when they attack. And when she ulti those summons get her pasive effect also derivative dmg so she would easy have 2 summons up when she ulti...

[hallow forum]

maybe 30% bonus dmg and deffense dont even work XD

[rocky oracle]

yeah i was wondering that too since they decimate same elements teams

[hallow forum]

like previous season derivative dmg bonus boss fight, everyone using IB... most likely something not working right 😅

[latent matrix]

On second thought none of the setups I posted are easy lol the interplay of mechanics is just too complex. Only Theo has energy drain/gain and only on his first two skills - this is why my tanks have resistance and why I use Titan rib for that perma dps boost. Curiously tho, even with high resistance, you sometimes notice Feenja being out of sync later on. My speculation is due to their shared buff passive somehow also affecting the energy gain, which should only work for buffs...

[hallow forum]

well problem is also high resistence dont mean you will for sure ignore debuffs or effects

its ridiculous actually kind of made me care less about resistence looking at how things fall apart

[latent matrix]

If you are using the Premtsa setup, only the tank gets energy drain/gain so you want resistance or Voresh's block buffs desync. You do want another necrosis hero on the team so she gets the boss buff (that may or may not do anything lol) but mostly its so she can keep up with 18 sec rotation on everyone else for optimal dps buffs.

[latent matrix]

yes there is RNG in your resist failing and block buffs being desync -Feenja hit very hard, especially with her battle skill giving atk up. I found the best way to deal with this is to forgo the first rotation and have Voresh with the debuff extending talent cast ult at around 27 or 27.5 on 18 sec rotation. Hope that helps

[hallow forum]

basically reducing enemy energy by 30% and if energy drops to 0 he gets 25% energy him self.

skill and 12 sec dmg reduction... (why voresh is nice )

[marble gale]

Be careful with fusing pets.. I found another bug with them..

[hallow forum]

fenya skill at 9 sec attack low hp enemy and buff team attack by 30%

[marble gale]

Lost about 20 mythics doing the testing and finally managed to get it on video.

[hallow forum]

deffense up and attack penalty at 18 sec bosses even have different timer XD

[latent matrix]

The thing that stood out to me is Voresh is not hit by drain etc even if he is only theo should desync. Feenja herself should stay on course from begin to end but she ends up desync sometimes. The only thing that I can think of is tank failing resist check, Theo speeds up and gives the ult up to Feenja as well...This is inconsistent with what the passive states...maybe @vagrant aurora can look into that.

[light thistle]

u can also open a ticket in #1144579696500162610 with a video and explain what happened 🙂

[shell iris]

Yes, wanted to write the same 🙂

[shell iris]

https://discord.com/channels/928541801260908546/1144579696500162610

[hallow forum]

actually had some weird timing that usually works for some reason but does also sometimes not hit boss buffs. Like 9/19.5 dont ask me why was toying around and for some reason this was giving me most consistent resoults untill i put lucien he changes all with recharge penalty...

[marble gale]

Sent it over to the devs already. WIll keep you updated.

[latent matrix]

honestly at this point my best advice on this boss...or any boss is just to whale out get i5 uber exclusive, hit auto and call it day....

[shell iris]

Bug report is always good, so other players are informed too 🙂

[vale cliff]

easy 4 SCHMYGGY

[light thistle]

i'm off for today, good evening / good night

[shell iris]

https://tenor.com/view/twd-the-walking-dead-walking-dead-easy-peasy-gif-7556031

[wicked ocean]

S4 end game boss after sever.vs server

[vagrant star]

Where's my Premsta though? 🥲

S4 and still don't have her

I am lazy.

[hallow forum]

well he give ppl ideas how that fight could work not free victory XD

ppl still need to put some effort XD

[tranquil sparrow]

Ripekas and Auster are some of my favorite heavy lifters in S1 i gotta say

[tawny blaze]

I just started playing the game 3 days ago, and am already lvl 59, should I try to get lelwanis, or save? Am on season 4

[hallow forum]

Just started = S1. Hmm then you say S4 🤔 🤷‍♂️
They joining servers April 7 and adding last season. Not sure if last season is S5 or S6. They stuff about summoning... Not enough details to know or give good advice...

Lelwanis is one of top team (summon) but need more than just her. Also need usually 6 solid teams for end game... So just her team wont be enough...

[tawny blaze]

Yea I started playing the game new and somewhere I read in the game season 4 and now there is the monkey quest, as for the banner there Is the frost queen with tail and the dragon queen

I joined the latest server that was reccomended

[vagrant star]

You are on season 1, my friend
some of the players that started way earlier are on the Season 4

But the game will merge all servers to the late4st servers in April

[tawny blaze]

Oh OK I see, so should I save all my summons, or use them? Currently there is dragon lady and the frost ady with tail and only 1 day remaining to get her. But I don't have 300 summoning stones to guarantee her pick

[tranquil sparrow]

always save unless you're confident in your ability to get 270 helios in a week

you can roll your purple summon dice whenever you have a ten-pack tho, that's fine

you get pity legendaries every 100 rolls on those or so

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[tulip glade]

If you've played the game every day dedicatedly. U end up with 270 summons on day 6 (from wukong event and free summons and gems from game) unless u spend them prior to this banner.

[hallow forum]

@latent matrix wild is actually ultra easy to make to work compared to other stuff i tried... Vicana and Hvitar are pain to make to work 😅

[hallow forum]

Dragon lady (lelwanis) is one of strong units in game and worth having. Frost one is mostly pvp and even there are stronger units. Maybe in future they add some new heroes to make Hvitar better. About summoning dont summon unless you have 270 (game will give 30 dices when you use 270 and this will let you do 300 in total). But timing to start game is weirdest so far no one can give you advice what will happen on april 7

[latent matrix]

Yea, wild was the first team I tried on this boss, except I used Liko to block buff. I found that most Legendary enl dmg dealer will work. The fight is mostly about block buff and keeping your tank alive. I wanted to test Schaltar and Ivellios but no resources.

[hallow forum]

some of them are pain to keep alive and do enough dmg wild, TB, Poison with lothair and maybe premsa didnt test her should be kind of easy. Other are actually pain to make to work

you saw frost hitting 120... poison with vicana tend to die at 2 min...

hmmm forgot to test shadow 😅

[carmine kindle]

Hi all

I’m new! Was curious if there was a priority order or formula for skill scrolling legendaries. Like dmg chars 1st or support 1st. Something along those lines.

Maybe I will see more later, but the legendary skill scrolls seems scarce.

[shell iris]

Scroll your best heroes first 🙂

[little pivot]

eventually they outstrip your new legendaries

Scroll who you're using the most first

Like Vinyara's pretty priority after your main exclusive dps (lelwanis, etc)

Cus she's needed for 2 different dungeon bosses

[carmine kindle]

Thx guys!

[hallow forum]

Also some heroes can work without scrolling other cant. Need to know what scroll give you if its just some dmg on hero that dont really do much dmg you dont care. On some heroes how fast you can use skill is important on some its not or you can put haste on them and dont care. Dose scroll increase chance of applying some effect? Usually if it does tend to be better investment. Your main dps. And your main supports usually take priority. So kind of need to know how hero perform, does it even need scrolling and also will you use hero a lot or just sometimes...

[little pivot]

and then you hit season 4 and 5 and you can basically scroll whoever on a whim even as a free to play, assuming you've been trying at all on events

[hallow forum]

and then S4 as old player, not scrolled aphanarsi, stanguenum... finally scrolled ergander in S4 (8 seasons later)... still missing synerall, questina, acillia... and i didnt even scroll all i have. Yeah that story about scrolling all you want as f2p dont really add up even if you spend some it still dont add up XD

[little pivot]

I've wasted a LOT of scrolls and still have 100+

[hallow forum]

well i still didnt scroll some stuff i use like i said and still missing some important heroes... so thats even more not scrolled... when i get grishnar probably will be able to scroll him and 1 more if i get lucky thats it...

and as old player did get quite a lot of scrolls when game reboot didnt help

[carmine kindle]

hi

its me again!

If my acct has lelwanis already

is it worth getting nastjenka? or should I be waiting for flora or skipping both for a future banner?

also what does the usual nestjenka and flora team look like?

thank you in advance

[fathom quiver]

Lelwanis can definitely use her exclusive artifact for which you would a dupe

Nastjenka is also viable fpor dauntless and later best together with guinavivre

Personally I wouldn't go for Flora if you don't have Felicity and either Caspar or Errich to support her dmg

[carmine kindle]

Thx!

[little pivot]

Nastjenka doesn't really hit her stride until season 3

So you can wait to get her if there's more pressing matters like lelwanis/dark lady

Until then she's just medium good. Clears all the dungeons relatively fast, middle of the road vortex damage, decent endgame/chaos shadows/continental challenge/pvp.

[golden grove]

https://tenor.com/view/good-morning-gif-16639675554573039823

[royal plank]

How’d we all get on. Got my i5 guin. Finally pulled two copies of Astaion too. Thank god yall talked me out of the astaion banner.

[little pivot]

I genuinely do not understand the point of the celebration servers. Is it like a challenge mode to do in addition to your regular server? The wording is ambiguous as to whether the inheritance will affect your current character

[ivory peak]

I have no clue what that last official release was on about

Inheriting 7 hero’s?? Is that our characters or are all our hero’s within that character set being reset??

I wish they would have native English speaking people drafting those releases, as they rarely make any sense

Perhaps it’s just me being thick……….any ideas?

[alpine oracle]

Nothing quite like a FAQ that leaves you more confused than when it was released, now I gotta go back and read the original release again

[tulip glade]

From what I understand. There are 2 pathways.

1. you have logged in within the last 14 days: everything is transfer for celebration
2. you have not logged in within last 14 days: you choose 7 heroes to inherit from your acc. And start on newbie server before joining all the others on the latest season servers

And from additional CN stuff ( which I and you should take with salt). If u are part of the 2) group, they will give u additional gems based upon how fat your acc is

---

I could be wrong about all of that. It's my understanding from what I read

• Regardless of which pathway you are on, when u join the latest season servers with other players they deem have the same amount of account power as you

@mods pls delete my messages if they are wrong. Don't want to spread misinfo

[fathom quiver]

Hey there. I'm still at work but when I'm finished I will try to clear any uncertainties as I'm having to catch up on the news myself.
I'll be needing approximately around 2/3 hours to be done and fully here

[little pivot]

yeah cus this was very... official sounding nonsense

lots of big words that may not have combined all that well lol

[alpine oracle]

I dunno, after reading the original announcment and the FAQ, now it seems like the Celebration servers are seperate options and that there must be a continue on as normal option

I think my membership in the No Read Gang is cemented, because before I thought that this new version of seasonal mechanics was going to have us all going into these Celebration servers, but now It seems like it's optional

Yeah , seems like it's optional and paralell to your normal account

[little pivot]

yeah that's what I'm thinking it says but it's so...

not clear on how it affects the main account

like do we get rewards on the main account?

[past grotto]

so we have to stilll playing the game to transfer all resources (char end everything) until 7 april right??

[royal plank]

lol. Yeah. Started reading it and as I got through each bullet it got more confusing.

[outer latch]

Same

[fossil nest]

Hello,

so my motivation to copy my regular account to the Celebration Server is that, as a “new” player who’s only been playing this game for about 3 weeks (Season 1), I get to choose 7 characters from my existing regular account — likely the strongest heroes that are optimal for use in Season 6 — plus I receive some special bonus rewards. After April 21, the server will function like a regular server.

At the same time, the value of my past purchases is initially refunded at 60%, and in the next season it will be fully adjusted to 100%. Otherwise, the account will be identical to my current one, just minus the heroes I’ve now chosen to inherit.

So, if that’s how it works, I could try copying my account, but I’m not really sure if it’s worth it for me even though I’ve only been playing for a short time. I don’t feel a strong motivation from it… but that’s just my opinion.
If I wrote something wrong or misunderstood the announcement, I apologize and thank you for any corrections.

[tulip glade]

tldr 3 pathways:

1. celebration server (recurring event): for all player types. If you inherit you keep ure account but start a new save while keeping 7 heroes and gaining extra rewards. (why a new player would choose to do this, i have no idea. imagine competed with f2p whos accounts look like whales because its a new server)
2. return only: the above but only for returners, and gain upto 747 dice for logging in. + marrow for how fat your acc is.
3. regular: for people who've been playing the game already. keep everything. Get some bonus rewards. Probably for 99% of the players who have a job(that is not cc) or study and dont want to play 2 accounts at the same time.

[tulip glade]

no. u can stop now if ure in a server. ull character will just transfer over when u join.

[fossil nest]

That sounds reasonable 🙂

[indigo temple]

𝐂𝐞𝐥𝐞𝐛𝐫𝐚𝐭𝐢𝐨𝐧 𝐒𝐞𝐫𝐯𝐞𝐫: Both new and returning travelers can enter and create characters. They will join newbie season and have the chance to earn 𝐬𝐩𝐞𝐜𝐢𝐚𝐥 𝐛𝐨𝐧𝐮𝐬 𝐫𝐞𝐰𝐚𝐫𝐝𝐬 during the celebration events.

𝐂𝐞𝐥𝐞𝐛𝐫𝐚𝐭𝐢𝐨𝐧 𝐑𝐞𝐭𝐮𝐫𝐧 𝐒𝐞𝐫𝐯𝐞𝐫: Exclusively for returning travelers. Travelers will enter the 𝐖𝐚𝐫𝐬𝐨𝐧𝐠 𝐨𝐟 𝐂𝐡𝐞𝐬𝐬 𝐚𝐧𝐝 𝐒𝐭𝐞𝐞𝐥 season. In addition to the Celebration Server benefits, you can 𝐬𝐞𝐥𝐞𝐜𝐭 𝐚𝐧𝐲 𝟕 𝐡𝐞𝐫𝐨𝐞𝐬 𝐭𝐨 𝐢𝐧𝐡𝐞𝐫𝐢𝐭 (𝐭𝐡𝐞𝐢𝐫 𝐈𝐧𝐬𝐩𝐢𝐫𝐚𝐭𝐢𝐨𝐧 𝐰𝐢𝐥𝐥 𝐛𝐞 𝐫𝐞𝐭𝐚𝐢𝐧𝐞𝐝).Travelers will also receive extra rewards, including historical top-up rebates, activity rebates and more.

𝐑𝐞𝐠𝐮𝐥𝐚𝐫 𝐒𝐞𝐫𝐯𝐞𝐫: According to server rules, travelers will enter the designated server after a single-server launch or a server merger. With "participation and experience" as our core guide, we are distributing anniversary companionship gifts to all travelers. Additionally, for active but unfinished events, we will provide compensation based on the mode type and individual progress, ensuring that no player's effort goes unrecognized.

Seems like this is all i need to know 👍🏾

[terse estuary]

Top Up now and receive 5% extra crystals: Official Website

[vagrant star]

thanks for the summary

[tulip glade]

i try my best. just using this as a way to improve my typing

#alliaskisjustdontfallinlovewithme

[past grotto]

i see, so i coose reguler one ya. thanks for that information

[vagrant star]

can someone remind me what are the rules for the faimiliar transfers between season ?

[alpine oracle]

everything is fully reserved

[vagrant star]

thanks!

[tawny blaze]

Which team is better in the game for PVE, summon, frost, fire, wind, electricity, poison?

[tranquil sparrow]

Summon is champ of Season 1 no doubt

[tawny blaze]

Am loving summon team but the summon minions don't look cool man... The frost dragon for example looks like a cheap design, the zombies looks cheap, the phoenix looks OK the demon looks OK, but there aren't wide variety and unique minions

Am I doing OK? And look at that frost dragon 🙄😂looks ugly

[vagrant star]

I agree with your assessment

Also didn't roll on them because of the aesthetics😅 Now I'm just a bit disssapointed with myself because of that

But you definitely won't be doing bad without them

I've rolled on Rally/Dauntless and they were extremely helpful as well

[tawny blaze]

Hope the new champions look better... Because this game overall art style is high quality it's just the designs of units don't look WOW that makes you feel must have.

That's said I am keeping my stones, only rolled 20 to get 1 legendary and it turned out to be trash, the arrow summon lady that replicates the summon on the field, she's so weak.

There is the dragon lady, people are saying she's is top tier but nerds a summoning team with her. But I don't have 300 stones to summon her, so I guess it's a pass, today is her last day I think

[pure vault]

Seems that This celebragion server thing is complicated. So are players losing there old charachtars or are they going to next season?

[golden grove]

Whats a wind team 🤔

If your only pulling heroes because of how they look, your going the wrong way about this game. Just so you know 😏

[tawny blaze]

My bad, I saw a wave icon and I thought it's a wind elemental 😂 am 4 days in the game

[tranquil sparrow]

"this is Scrumbopulous Michael, he looks like a turd warmed over but he's top-tier"

[tawny blaze]

I like to have cool heroes, most heroes I saw in season one aren't cool looking.

[golden grove]

Your not going to get far in this game if your only pulling heroes that are aestically pleasing, also you need to be saving 270 dice for each banner. If you start pulling dice willy nilly on different banners you will never build a successful account 🙂

[tawny blaze]

When I say cool I mean follow a specific design philosophy of the faction they represent, and look mean or elegant with nice shiny armor, or beast, etc

[analog sun]

Breaking news, new wind element is intraduced in season xxx

[tawny blaze]

I appreciate the advice, yea I will probably do that, but it's a shame to see that we don't have nice heroes that reflect their aesthetic vibe

[golden grove]

Well good luck with that theory

[vagrant star]

I get what you're saying. The are A LOT of cool heroes going forward

[golden grove]

The only question I have regarding 7th April, do we the reborn players have to choose one of these servers or do we just log in as normal?

[fathom quiver]

Okay I'm back @ivory peak @little pivot @alpine oracle here is as promised a breakdown. Feel free free to ask any remaining questions or where I need to go into further detail. Generally upfront: All will receive anniversary gifts when starting into the next Season in April.

With the latest announcement we have the following options on April 7th:

Regular Server: You go into the next season with your server staying as is. Season reset rules apply normally as they have been so far. Additionally to anniversary gifts you will receive compensation if you end f.e. in the middle of CC or OW.

Celebration Server: A chooseable server for returning players and active players. You can create a new character and join the newbie Season. Doing so enables you to have the chance for sprecial bonus rewards during ceebration events.

Celebration Return Server: Only for returning Travelers (please look here at Q2 for who is being considered as Returner: #📢┆game-announcements message). In addition to the Celebration Server benefits you can select 7 heroes with their inspirations to inherit into the returner and receive extra rewards from previously done Top-Ups.

[fathom quiver]

Does my summary above answer your question?

To my understanding you can do both. Either carry on normally or choose to play on the celebration server to play for more rewards in a newbie Season

[ivory peak]

So on the Celebration server, you lose every other hero and inspiration other than the 7? 😳

[golden grove]

Yes thats all I needed to know, thank you Mr P 🙂🙂

[fathom quiver]

To clarify Celebration Server and ** Celebration Return Server** are two different servers

[golden grove]

I will log in as normal, I am not losing all my heroes, no matter what the rewards are

[fathom quiver]

I think the 7 heroes you are referring to are bound to the Celebration Return Server in which you can pick 7 heroes to inherit from an account that has been inactive since end of March 8th

[ivory peak]

So the Celebration server you lose every hero?

[alpine oracle]

Seems like the safest option for people that have been playing since re-launch is just continue as normal

[golden grove]

Thats exactly what i am doing

[alpine oracle]

I’m really not seeing any benefit in going into these celebration servers

[fathom quiver]

As I understand it the Celebration Server is a seperate Server where you can earn extra rewards

The most safe thing would be to keep your main account as is and create a new character which plays on the same account on the Celebration server

Celebration Servers (as stated) are time limited, go through a similar "Newbie-Season" (whatever that is...) and have besides the normal Celebration stuff additional chances of getting bonus rewards

[alpine oracle]

Seems like they’re just giving us the option to go on those servers to see what the new new new player experience is like… the seven legendary limit is so that will equalize the experience for people I suppose

The only reason I can see to play on the celebration server is if you get rewards that appear on the main server though or just have a ton of time on your hand and enjoy the game that much

Since you will essentially be playing two accounts

[fathom quiver]

I see that the same way as you

[alpine oracle]

Thank you I think I have a better understanding of it now at least

I’m sure that will be even more detailed as we get closer

[fathom quiver]

i hope we can clarify it more as I've also shared my frustration with my higher ups about the wording

[indigo temple]

Probably best to wait till a few days before the new version drops to commit to anything.

[summer gorge]

New radiant character has been teased

Seems to be a support one

Dont ask what is the right way to pronounce his namr

[fathom quiver]

i could tell you in my native tongue

It's nearly an old common german name xD

[past grotto]

yeah.. what he ask bout is if we choose to join in the celebration server, that were main account can inherit all hero to that server or just create the new one and everything is gone.. thats the point he ask for @fathom quiver

so after i read all, back again if we are active player, the best think to do is join on reguler one so we can keep continued our account progress

[north ember]

The damage done by wild was on test server cn

[fringe drum]

hi, is there a Promo code chat or Promo code thread?

[north ember]

But they seems to be nerfing it

[summer gorge]

Oh figures
If i try to spell.this name
Its almost guaranteed im spitting and summon a demon at the same time

[fathom quiver]

Maybe you'll summon me?

[golden grove]

Oh welcome back verv

[fathom quiver]

Who knows 🐲

[golden grove]

Did anyone see Eze today??

[fathom quiver]

yes

You miss him?

😉

[golden grove]

Yeh hes my coffee buddy 🙂

[summer gorge]

Hell yea
A paranoidical succubus

[light thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/excited-fuego-gif-26833875

[light thistle]

☕

[fathom quiver]

Uff me a succubus?

I'd need to change gender I think

[summer gorge]

https://tenor.com/view/well-hello-there-pay-attention-gif-16913168467445987056

[summer gorge]

In 2026 ?
Bro anything is possible
Nowdays, people walk the roads identifying themselves as leafs and trees

[fathom quiver]

True

then i choose to stay Paranoid^^

[golden grove]

Where have you been all day 🤔

[light thistle]

a lot of things i did ^^'

[summer gorge]

Yeah
And i stay introvert

Aint no grass touch
The.grass touches me

[golden grove]

Never to busy for coffee ☕️

[tulip glade]

introvert != shut in

[tranquil sparrow]

I'm a wizard, I stay in my tower and I read my tomes

[golden grove]

Im a fairy i touch grass daily 🤭

[ivory peak]

I’m a Grouch and I grouch

[light thistle]

je s'appel Groot.

[summer gorge]

Groot

https://tenor.com/view/dancing-baby-groot-gif-4939434

[summer gorge]

One could say
Youre locked in
In an endless cycle

[indigo temple]

Anne-li-e-sis

[tulip glade]

with there being a new season every time... arent we all

[indigo temple]

Analasysis? 👀

[tranquil sparrow]

trapped in an endless river
samsara cages me
I whiff my banner pulls

[summer gorge]

Thats just another way to slowly spit someone right into the face
Hungary accent salted with german is legit Sound like a cthulhu sect summon session on weekdays

[fathom quiver]

holy that's too far apart from Annelisies

[indigo temple]

But it does sound like analasysis 😗

[summer gorge]

Seasonal might be no longer gonna be a thing aswell summoning also gets a rework

[tranquil sparrow]

Summon nerf incoming rip Lelwanis (unsubstantiated)

[fathom quiver]

a bit of but the interpretation has a small ground^^

[light thistle]

noway !

[tulip glade]

doubt.

[fathom quiver]

At least for me

[summer gorge]

Time to embrace rally
And dauntless

[light thistle]

don't touch lelwanis 😡

[summer gorge]

No its been confirmed

Scratch already talked about this even posted video
Aswell there is also stating from this from the devs

[tulip glade]

that they will end seasons?

[terse rapids]

Any help on how to clear this ? Thx

[tulip glade]

so the grind will be everyday non stop. no 1 week rest?

[light thistle]

hello, in #📊┆dragon-lineup-help please ^^

[fathom quiver]

use stun sets, Eliminate one side of Gardrus manually

Then target the other side

[tulip glade]

iola, tamar, questa

[indigo temple]

Premsta

[fathom quiver]

No rest like 1 week off or so

[tranquil sparrow]

oh lord I remember struggling against the 6 Gardrus meme battalion

[summer gorge]

I think seasons on its own gonna be no longer a thing
Might be instead of seasons there Will be themes and stuff

As banners also gets improved

[terse rapids]

Thx will try

[summer gorge]

This will start to ve included from thr start of s5
I mean they will start testing new stuff and content

[terse rapids]

Manually using who ? Thx

[tulip glade]

like iola and questa

anyone who doesnt hit the entire screen u manual

[tranquil sparrow]

manual your ults, zharloth/iola/questa/tamar/lossenia if you have em

[fathom quiver]

Ripekas, Lossenia, Auster

[tranquil sparrow]

My Trio ❤️

2 parts Elf to 1 part Troll

[terse rapids]

Thx

[fathom quiver]

only DH related stuff here

[terse rapids]

Was a mistake sorry

[hallow forum]

https://klipy.com/gifs/really-what-4

hate when last copy didnt actually copy and it drops one before it XD

[fathom quiver]

Yeah saw you put it away 🙂

Sometimes I'm too fast ❤️

[analog sun]

Paranoid is so paranoid that his watching chat 24/7

[fathom quiver]

Not 24/7 but much to clarify and try to get clear information for community

Also like 3 screens xD

[analog sun]

Dont let him fool you guys his the EYE of the storm 😏

[light thistle]

he is not alone too.

[fathom quiver]

Hehe like Legion

We are paranoid, we are legion, we are all. One and Everyone xD

[light thistle]

no i'll don't make a banner for ur slogan 🤣

[hallow forum]

https://klipy.com/gifs/eye-of-sauron-lotr

[fathom quiver]

exactly

[trail hinge]

Anyone have any prophecy code to spare lol ?

[summer gorge]

https://tenor.com/view/ballas-ballas-warframe-warframe-all-as-one-warframe-new-war-gif-873324056758970869

Ballas liked this

[fathom quiver]

I don't know who's that

But I feel like I would like him xD

[fathom quiver]

uff that's a harsh one xD

probably easier to do one yourself^^

[trail hinge]

I know 🤣🤣

[summer gorge]

https://tenor.com/view/warframe-what-wat-ivara-what-did-you-say-gif-17536323

[indigo temple]

Never hated anyone as much as i hate this hybrid 😂

[summer gorge]

Yeahhh...
Ballay s one biggo' rude dude

Ballas

[fathom quiver]

hmm

[summer gorge]

Warframe

Aka cake frame and bugframe

You dont wanna know how painfull are the railjack missions there

Your ship is actively gets laser spammed,the dude in the radio start yapping your ship is seriously damaged,need to repair,and you have to run and hunt fires in the ship
In middle of battle xd

[light thistle]

In any case, what doesn't concern dragonheir it's here: #🐉┆off-topic-chat

[summer gorge]

[fathom quiver]

If you want to further talk about it we should definitely move to off-topic^^

[alpine oracle]

Incubus isn't just a band

[alpine oracle]

lets just say there are categories on adult sites for the pronunciation Im going with

[hallow forum]

am supprised guess no one is pulling on it cos of grishnar and announcement of Anneliessis 🤣

[light thistle]

👀

[alpine oracle]

https://giphy.com/gifs/ban-hammer-the-frog-KCe9K3t7lNs58UvobV

[light thistle]

No, but don't say any more ^^

[alpine oracle]

No problem, i know we only get one of those riding the line jokes every so often

it was just too good to pass up

[fathom quiver]

there are some who pull but I will definitely wait for Grish and Annelisies

[light thistle]

What's surprising is that paranoid didn't tell you anything 🤣

[alpine oracle]

I just pulled for i2 Lelwanis and will have enough for 2 more so I just have to decide on last Options or the new radiant one

the collector in me says I aint passing up a limited time champ

[fathom quiver]

I don't get it...

So luck on their side

In my heart I'm a boomer xD

[light thistle]

u no, me yes 🤣

[fathom quiver]

Or at least that's what I think the correct term is

[hallow forum]

so what you are saying is you identify as boomer XD

[fathom quiver]

Definitely

[hallow forum]

or was that phishing for "ok boomer" line 🤣

[fathom quiver]

No I don't fish

I just enjoy Sushi xD

[hallow forum]

at this point i was sure you identify as sauron but ok 🤣

[light thistle]

he need rest our Paranoid 🤣

[fathom quiver]

I can be Sauron

[summer gorge]

Fishy sauron

Or sauronoshy fish

[fathom quiver]

Imagine the tower but instead of an eye a big fish with big eyes

[hallow forum]

dont give @light thistle ideas 😛

[light thistle]

ur new wallpaper @hallow forum ?

i can make it for u if u want

[hallow forum]

actually my wallpaper for last 10 years is black colour 😅

[light thistle]

@fathom quiver @hallow forum

[hallow forum]

told you to not give him ideas XD

[light thistle]

i like the idea

[light thistle]

i need to write PARANOID on this 🤣

he'll be happy

[fathom quiver]

NICE

sry for screaming

[light thistle]

something like this or i change for ' paranoid ' ?

🤣 🤣

i find this project very fun

[fathom quiver]

How about no paranoid but my eye or something close monitoring the glodfish from afar

[light thistle]

We need more details 🤣

[sand bridge]

Is that new hero gonna be an all server event? Or only the ones that are current? Like I'm s2 right now are gonna get that right before the big server revamp on the 7th?

[indigo temple]

Aye man im a broke boy, i need to be stingy with my pulls 😭

[hallow forum]

most likely all server event like tiamat. Tiamat drop for 100 days of reboot on all servers. From announcement sound it will be same for this

[fathom quiver]

It is an overall event for every server starting at 27th of March

[sand bridge]

Gotcha

[tawny blaze]

Why the game forcing us to use specific heroes faction together? This limits the builds significantly...

[hallow forum]

thats how its designed why is sky blue, why is water anomalus expanding both on cold and hot unlike any other element... ?

it is just how it is

Sometimes utility does more for fight than synergy of elements... need to adapt to fights... more bonuses or specific utility to counter things

[sand bridge]

The element grouping changing every season is one of the ways things stay fresh and is definitely one of the best things about seasons lol

[hallow forum]

well it can create different challenges to overcome...

[sand bridge]

Yea if you didn't have to come up with new teams on a regular basis the game would get very stale

[indigo temple]

Because this is the style of game chief.

At least read up on the mechanics. It isnt static. It rotates with each season.

Necro-ICe
Fire-Poison
Lightning-Radiant

Season 2 will have different pairings.
rinse-repeat

[golden grove]

So do we need another 300 dice lol

[hallow forum]

am sure answer is yes so good luck pulling on grishnar XD

[golden grove]

Did you read anything about this game before you started to play?

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I already have him lol

[hallow forum]

was planing to pull on him and maybe get synerall or questina or both 😅

guess not happening XD

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Is she that good of a hero?

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Good afternoon BTW 🙂🙂

[hallow forum]

dont think he is that good but can make difference in some fights... but well synarell and questina well... they make big difference in lots of fights XD

[hallow forum]

hi can i go sleep now 😅 🤣

[golden grove]

What is he radiance?

[light thistle]

yeah u can x)

[golden grove]

Leaving already ive only just seen you today lol

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And what does she do

[light thistle]

idk

we must found in the speculation event

#📢┆game-announcements message

[hallow forum]

you asking about new hero? Think they said aura if am remembering it right but should be probably big thing like Tiamat. Seams like they could be pulling off darkness vs light thing. But its rare hero who knows if we even get again...

[golden grove]

Oh great ive only got 140 dice after today's disaster of a pull lol

[hallow forum]

Damn it if we only said in time dont pull 🙁

[light thistle]

it's @fathom quiver fault, he don't want give us more dices 🤣

[fathom quiver]

what?

[light thistle]

🤣

[fathom quiver]

I don't have any helios xD

[light thistle]

LIES

[fathom quiver]

Don't know what you mean xD

[golden grove]

I honestly wish I hadnt, but I did get tamar finally lol

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🤣