🐲┆dragonheir-chat

[indigo temple]

She is on TeamPremsta it seems

[lapis kite]

I'm restarting my argument which seems to get lost among counter arguments which don't mean much sorry to say

[sly heron]

dude if you don't wanna listen that's fine you can just say so xD

[hallow forum]

well if doing early clears for challenge points like C6 venom good luck clearing it with other things that early with that bad gear drop. Guild boss nothing even compare to lelwanis. Fallen shadow 2nd best team ofc after rally. Continental challenge usually top team for all 4 seasons now. Boss fight one of top teams... Maybe few dungeons and speed run are not her cup of tea but you can do those with lots of different options

[lapis kite]

Not useless, tho. It really that useful, agreed

[lapis kite]

Listening and agreeing are different

Useful as in what? Teams and units that premtsa could be used are way better

So why on earth would I use premtsa?

And she's definitely not useful everywhere lol

Next thing you're gonna say is you run her in vortex lol

[sly heron]

ah so you don't read 😄

[hallow forum]

shadow, poison... dont care about other teams on that

[lapis kite]

Insulting a person rather than working with arguments isn't gonna get you far sorry

You're right, there's tons of people that have much better roster than me

[sly heron]

not an insult hun, just fact. literally said Lel outscales her if she has the time so obviously Lel is gonna be better in vortex lol 😄

vortex gives ya all the time in the world for it

[lapis kite]

Obvious insult "Hun", since it's an obvious lie. And what you just typed has nothing to do with my arguments, so keep trying to insult me, feel free

[sly heron]

yeh the early burst dmg saves my behind in those

[lapis kite]

That's great and I'm glad she works for you

[indigo temple]

Where is this going by the way? Whats the end goal?

[lapis kite]

But that's not saying she's optimal for that content

[sly heron]

alright calm down jesus 😄 what's an obvious lie?

[vale cliff]

words per minute!

[light thistle]

This discussion is fascinating, wait 2 minutes while I get my popcorn

[sly heron]

said riiiight here

[indigo temple]

If its just to say stuff then carry on 😂

[lapis kite]

Seems like you're after arguing for the fun of it, that's a no thx from me

[vale cliff]

bunch of stuff and more stuff

[lapis kite]

She will get you great dmg on guild boss, great DMG on cc and end boss

Places where she's optimal and will definitely be used

[sly heron]

we're discussing the usefulness of units. that's what the chat is for tbf. and you have mentioned that in situations where Lel is not optimal there are better options than Premsta, but you haven't mentioned which those are? so as a mostly necro player I am curious now

[high rain]

Stop arguing with her, she's been targeting you without adding anything to the discussions. Just ignore her

[lapis kite]

Premtsa might be an easy pick for some of the content, but there are other teams that are easy and bette

[lapis kite]

Agreed

[indigo temple]

https://klipy.com/gifs/popcorn-guy-relaxing-1

[sly heron]

I mean I already said my piece, not much point in repeating it ig 🤷‍♀️

[light thistle]

So, are you two arguing about Lelwanis or about some misunderstanding I didn't catch?

[lapis kite]

This all depends on what you want. If you're after rankings, then absolutely

[sly heron]

idk I was curious what the alternatives would be for necro when Lel doesn't have a lot of time to scale

and like not Premsta

[indigo temple]

Basically: Premsta > Lil'Wanis

[light thistle]

for which content ?

[light thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/bane-no-banned-and-you-are-explode-gif-16047504

[indigo temple]

Dont shoot the messenger. Im just reporting on what i heard

[lapis kite]

Someone is saying premtsa is better cause she can be used more widely whereas I'm saying that that's immaterial because lelwanis is mega for some of the content where she's used and premtsa is just outmatched by other units for contents that she could be used in

[sly heron]

PVP, Fey, the dungeon/domain things, basically everywhere you gotta burst or you die

cuz I do end up using Premsta for those cuz there's just no time esp since I only have 1 enabler for Lel

[light thistle]

i do harpy challenge 6 with lelwanis, i don't see the problem

[lapis kite]

And still even in those servers it's sensible to get summon team with lelwanis whereas premtsa is an easy skip

[hallow forum]

why would i use premsa? Also if i didnt use poison i could use shadow or TB. Or dantuless... Why would i use premsa. But when you need high dmg on something well lelwanis is always one of go to

[light thistle]

on CC i don't use premtsa

[lapis kite]

Give some examples where she's peak as in better than other teams

[sly heron]

I can force some of it to a degree

[light thistle]

on planar i don't use Premtsa, in fey i use guinavivre phaessa quaesitia ripekas and astaion

[indigo temple]

The problem is you are not using Premsta 🤬

[light thistle]

premtsa collect dust isn't my fault

❤️

[sly heron]

no Guinevere (sp?) D:

[lapis kite]

So much that. A bit sad for the unit but it's what it is

[light thistle]

rip? 🤣

[lapis kite]

That's not saying that premtsa can't be used, just not optimal

[sly heron]

seems so

[indigo temple]

I dont care that much but this isnt how you make a point or in general talk to people

[light thistle]

make an effort please 🤣

[high rain]

Nope... I placed 3rd on S1 only thanks to CC and end game. The whole season I was top 20 as F2P

[hallow forum]

well you could still use her if you chose to but well will do less that other options can

[lapis kite]

Sorry to say but you're missing the point of the argument. You can use other teams to achieve the same or better results than premtsa in that content. You can't say the same a out lelwanis where she's used

[light thistle]

well be kind all ❤️

[high rain]

CC and endgame is the ticket for being competitive

[sly heron]

not worth it I tried 😄 I asked what's optimal, presented my stuff, dudes just ignoring me now lol 😄

my bad ig lol

[light thistle]

teu teu teu , i did it so u can do it !

that's all 😄

[lapis kite]

You forgot to add where you started to insult me just because

[sly heron]

I'm still weighted necro, with the new demon thingies too so D: lightning stuff waaaay in the backburner

[hallow forum]

if you dont use lelwanis on some severs you will rank 200-300 or worse

[indigo temple]

Simple. My thing is the game is a hero collector and we all choose the heroes we like to use.
It really doesnt have to be deeper than that.

Maybe one can suggest what they think is optimal but if someone disagrees that doesnt need to become a shouting match.

[sly heron]

alright if you truly believe I did raise it, not much more I can do

[lapis kite]

It will depend on the server you're in. Lelwanis gives a massive edge to post ranking even or especially for f2p and low spenders

[true sapphire]

Big fish in a small pond think he's got it all figured out. Some people are in for a rude awakening.

[hallow forum]

Any way he drop in to say about new shadow unit gets drag in to argument over premsa 😅

[lapis kite]

That's your server, that's not the argument he's making

[light thistle]

just one thing, do what u want andd like the game, we are here only to give advice but at the final, it's each player who make choices for pull

[lapis kite]

And his argument is 100% correct

[hallow forum]

i was generous on my server if you dont use lelwanis you will get ranking worse than 300. Using lelwanis you can rank 80-170.

[sly heron]

speak for yourself, I wanted advice xD

[light thistle]

LELWANIS

best advice i can give + guinavivre.

[indigo temple]

https://klipy.com/gifs/doctorevil-no

[lapis kite]

That's great, if you're able to achieve that against people that use lelwanis then that's a great achievement. In no shape or form is that true for others

[sly heron]

okay to clarify I was hoping for someone elses' advice too cuz I ain't pulling for Guin rn for sure xD

[light thistle]

u tires me out already @sly heron 🤣 🤣

[indigo temple]

Why not?

[sly heron]

oh shush I'm already planning on pulling bear lady for Lel cuz of you 😄

[light thistle]

step 1 to step 7 = lelwanis 😄

[light thistle]

perfect !

[sly heron]

prio, honestly. lightning roster on me for Guin would be.... very questionable

[light thistle]

u see when u want u can

[sly heron]

very very questionable

[modest citrus]

For shortest fight is Premsta for longer Fights Lelwanis is used. So depends on situations of whom you want to use.

[lapis kite]

Only thing id say about lelwanis in the near future is that burn will be that top team for aoe content, though no idea what on earth the game will be like after the next revamp

[hallow forum]

that just say that you are on easy server or have i5 rook, dauntles, burn, IB

[lapis kite]

They're important even when you're not competing in whale sphere. Value wise lelwanis brings a lot more than premsta

Not just top 10

You can't just say because things are a certain way on your server and for you, they are true for others

I'm really hoping that people plan their dice for the most bang for their buck

If you're still using premtsa in 3v3 in S4, then your server really doesn't sound that competitive

[indigo temple]

You need Lil'Wanis whatever the activity level of your server.

[lapis kite]

Agreed, in which premtsa barely registers

[hallow forum]

@worn mauve you use something other instead and you do lot less... and this is crazy server that even rank 80 you could call kraken

[modest citrus]

Hahaha for Arena truly Premsta is more feared than Lelwanis, because she stays at the back 👀.

I get the reason why you feel Lelwanis wouldn't be used and also because of her slow ramp up before damage unlike Premsta which is just straight Gunner and not like Lelwanis a Snipper

[lapis kite]

That's your choice, if you're fine with losing rankings because of that or being on the server that there aren't many people that use lelwanis and yous feel not having her then it's completely your call

[high rain]

I agree that lel is not primordial, she can be replaced. But overall she's better than premsta.

[modest citrus]

For Alliance Ranking board she is quite high their and needed.... Premsta wouldn't cut out.
True Premsta might out damage Lelwanis first few minutes but Lelwanis overtime will overcome that 5-10 times.

Well, maybe you can manage Rally Team and Poison team then if you don't rate Lelwanis quite high

[high rain]

Lel can be selected with selector, prems cannot. Why even comparing them...

[lapis kite]

To me it seems like this whole conversation was a few people trolling

[modest citrus]

Unless they made something like Guinevere 👀 that out damages Nastjenka version for Necrosis to overpower Lelwanis.

For now none, so you got no choice than to pick her if you needed her

[lapis kite]

Sadly these might be coming soon :/ shadow is probably the most shafted so far

Though aura might not be far behind

[sly heron]

we were talking about how sometimes Premsta carries instead when there's not enough time in the encounter for Lel to scale. obv once Lel stacks it's game over 😄

and yeah you normally just... have her so she's convenient 🤷‍♀️ (Premsta, I mean*)

[modest citrus]

Actually reason why they say Lelwanis to be picked is because of her Main Artifact ignoring defense and doing True Damage

[sly heron]

her scaling did go brr back in the day yeah

[modest citrus]

And she is more tankier than Premsta... So overall she is overall one of the Strongest Exclusive DPS with Grishnaar defense and Hvitar wild coverage attack

[modest citrus]

Truly shadow is doing great... Especially Questitia right? I see her being used alot in most AOE activities like Fey/Arena/Dungeons too

[lapis kite]

I'm not sure to be honest. You're saying you're still using premtsa in S4 successfully and that just doesn't compute for me if you were fighting against people that have planned their accounts

[modest citrus]

And they are like the faster version of Lelwanis

[lapis kite]

I mean aspalta is heavily used ( I think you meant her as questitia is support), when I say shafted I mean ozul as an exclusive is being already completely replaced by the new werewolf ezclusive

Aura seems to be following the same fate with their exclusive

[indigo temple]

That depends on the ranking

[lapis kite]

But that's based on S5 that we've seen, the new S6 S6 merge were getting might go different

[hallow forum]

on my server even 1m can make difference between rank like 10 ranks different sometimes more XD

ppl and easy servers...

[lapis kite]

What boss do you mean? Cc? The lelwanis would get you way more than that there, no idea where you're getting your information from

[modest citrus]

But I don't know how good Aura is... Seems a lot doesn't Rate Radiance and Aura teams most times.

For Ozul well, why not just him and the new hero as combination just like Nastjenka and Guinevere was used 👀. Wouldn't that be more fun testing

[lapis kite]

Id definitely be interested to test and see the testing, so far based on S5 on CN, ozul was just plain replaced

[modest citrus]

Lelwanis without Main Artifacts might be that damage... With Main Artifact, Premsta damage will be twice lower than that

[lapis kite]

Yeah I dunno where he's getting his information on lelwanis DMG from to be honest

This is exactly why lelwanis was so impactful especially for f2p. Because people could easily invest in 1 school of dmg and get incredibly high dmg which helped with rankings as 1 team outperformed 2 combined DMG results for other teams

Nothing like that can be said about premtsa

[modest citrus]

If I was to face Dauntless teams I might want to use Premsta and remove Lelwanis so that the summons are being directed to the Dauntless snippers before Premsta ULTs and Sintrellia duplicate another summon. This disrupt plan.

But for Major events out of Arena, Lelwanis is an insane Snipper.

Even though a rifle deals great damage, you can't relinquished that of a Snipper time, does it takes time but is disastrous.

For now Love Lelwanis 😁

[lapis kite]

For PvP there's too many much better picks than lelwanis to be fair. Unless using some niche team I wouldn't even consider her personally

[modest citrus]

You can with Lelwanis and Main Artifact

[lapis kite]

And top 10 isn't the only thing to aim for, on your server that might work, it doesn't work like that on others

[modest citrus]

Without her Artifact, you might not with the Whales

[lapis kite]

Even with other f2ps that plan well for ranking

[fathom quiver]

probably

[lapis kite]

Nothing to do with the arguments being made here

[fathom quiver]

But that's okay as well

I'd be interested to see servers shrink when you play multiple accounts in multiple seasons and now all in the same xD

[modest citrus]

Plain replacement... That's too bad for Ozul just getting retired like that 😑

[lapis kite]

Complete generalisation, if everyone was f2p on a server this argument is wrong

And that's still nothing to do with which unit is better

[sly heron]

isn't that literally a system limitation on our end? 😄 it would be a bit hilarious if it can happen now

[fathom quiver]

The chance only there to be if whale is not fully playing or all are f2p (which is honestly low to no chance^^)

[lapis kite]

It's incredibly annoying if I'm honest :/ I feel very bad for people that invested in him

[fathom quiver]

True but I still am looking to see more players complain about not having different things to do for all his accounts^^

[hallow forum]

just going to drop this here...

[sly heron]

idk how they do it, I had an alt once... very short lived 😄

[modest citrus]

Well Lelwanis/Nastjenka 👀 in S1 you should break Top 1... Just get Lelwanis Main Artifact first then everything comes great.

True damage Heroes with their Main Artifacts are more sort after than any others

[sly heron]

I don't wanna ever even be close to your server jesus o.O

[modest citrus]

Seems like even Hvitar is getting replacement

[sly heron]

vortex, top left

[modest citrus]

Will I call this Hvitar replacement 🤔 or is it another different class

[sly heron]

that the billion in dmg is around spot 170 D:

[fathom quiver]

inactive accounts can probably go into Celebration Return server

After that will be interesting

[hallow forum]

yes but they told me what i say is not true well image lies 🤷‍♂️ 🤣

[sly heron]

oh I couldn't inherit it, not that I wanted to xD

[vital elm]

Which my top 3 legendary? 🤔

[modest citrus]

Hahaha, some F2P has beaten whale in my server 🤣 though for 3 days in Vortex before they rooked him down. He was using Dauntless teams

[lapis kite]

I sure hope not :/ not sure if the new exclusive synergises with her rather than replace

[indigo temple]

Hvitar won't be getting replaced. Perish the thought

[hallow forum]

She is for staying in top 200

[fathom quiver]

That's what I meant

I was buying only packages and was able to craft myself against top 2 krakens on my before reborn server to top 3 consistently

[modest citrus]

Berengar/Oggok/Ergander/Ripekas/Zeffi there are the top 5

[fathom quiver]

After they started copying my lineups they were getting better numbers but it was honestly tiring

[vital elm]

@modest citrus thank you

[fathom quiver]

totally agree

[modest citrus]

Let's hope to see that

Remember Aura own was replaced

[fathom quiver]

Besides Ergander I would say Vinyara is also in one of the top spots or close on 6th place

[modest citrus]

Dauntless was overshadowed by Guinevere

Let's see who is next

[fathom quiver]

Shadow

[indigo temple]

Don't need to hope. Take a look at how they add new EX units in teams. They always replace the normal legendaries to introduce a new EX.

Choral
Bernade
Alaura

Same MO

[fathom quiver]

Probably Ozul in my opinion

[modest citrus]

Yes Vinyara definitely mostly for dungeons she is too good.... 7th is always that Torrin no cap

[fathom quiver]

Dauntless needed her or a big boost to some non exclusive dps

[modest citrus]

As F2P is no the too thin... The issue is always Master Scrolls and Wymarrows.... But Master Scrolls the first one.

[modest citrus]

I don't know the need of replacement, why not just create it to complement synergies with them to be more insane damage together

Now people will be overthinking whom to summon now

[hallow forum]

@lapis kite just said he is totally replaced by new Shadow unit

[sly heron]

power creep gotta happen

[modest citrus]

Especially for F2P, not to summon an hero all to see it get replaced 🤔 by another Ex

[fathom quiver]

Yes that's why I said he will be gone soon

[modest citrus]

Ahh... 😂 Please not Shadow.

[lapis kite]

Based on CN S5 yeah

[fathom quiver]

Shadow gets really good new heroes and they are much better than Ozul... sadly

[indigo temple]

Ozul is the only EX unit that was madr obsolete and I don't think that was by design

[modest citrus]

Lol saying it to me who love testing all heroes and still stuck at S1 Rerolling 🤣

My sight was never short sighted once

[hallow forum]

well if they made changes to his artifact maybe he would work but that artifact is just joke 🙁

[fathom quiver]

As it was before reborn xD

[modest citrus]

True... We need an Ex replacement for Tharivol, who will will deal insane damage while applying constant Def Down

[fathom quiver]

Poison swamp will be huge for damage dealers as well

[hallow forum]

i2 gets some ignore enemy deffense i5 gets more enlightment from pasive... basically nothing to actually make him scale in hard fights

[fathom quiver]

My prediction for future Dauntless: Maashtur, new exclusive stance changer, Guinavivre, Nastjenka, Sutha

[fathom quiver]

Definitely not enough to make him sustainable

Maybe his passive needs more rework

[modest citrus]

If I tell you have I have close to 5 heros but each lacking Exclusive DPS and I am bottom 63rd because of inactivity for 10 days. 👀

But what was holding me down is lack of enough Master Scrolls. One as F2P needs to focus Wymarrows on Exclusive, and we can't buy Master Scrolls as we won't get enough dices for 3 banners that way

[modest citrus]

This guy... 👀

Truly an insane Tiger shielder....

Yeah game to be played for years needs thorough research

[fathom quiver]

Yes truly insanely good for shields, debufs, immunity for ow team

[modest citrus]

4 main Exclusive for Most Inspiration and usage, last 4 for CC and less Inspiration focus until the first Main 4 is done with

PVE/PVP/Vortex/Fey is the first 4 main one all season for F2P to first get... The last 4 you can manage Epic for now until it's time to get for

For F2P we don't really need PVE ranking... We just need to rake the Wymarrows and dices around the kingdom to summon something good.

CC/End game and Vortex and some other things are crucial

[modest citrus]

Sutha issue is the Def Down isn't longer unlike Tharivol which still continues a bit more

But he has more damage than Tharivol though

[fathom quiver]

But her double attacks stack more for nastjenka passive

at least so far as I tried them

[lapis kite]

You keep saying how for you it works and lelwanis isn't that important, for a lot of people lelwanis will help reach top 50 based on how impactful she is

[fathom quiver]

And she won't get WR, thats for Maashtur to apply

[modest citrus]

For that Shield and Healing.... Then Dauntless don't need more than Grishnaar + Mashtuur as tank. No need for any extras

[lapis kite]

It's literally one of the biggest strawman arguments I've seen for a long time

[fathom quiver]

Mashtuur is enough

New exclusive guy can heal team with stance change

[modest citrus]

For Vortex wouldn't really think so 🤔

Wouldn't Grishnaar be more better in that mode

[fathom quiver]

Mashtuur multi hits, rings debuff and/or control immunity and shields!

[lapis kite]

I really wonder how the banners are going to work going forward

[indigo temple]

Are you not in Season 1?

[modest citrus]

For Rankings that gives more rewards 🤔

[lapis kite]

With all these new support exclusives it might be very difficult to do well unless very lucky and/or big spender :/

[modest citrus]

You have to look at presents stage to see if the future will be really that bright for the current hero

Yes for F2P top 30-50 is enough

[lapis kite]

You just plain refuse to acknowledge the argument. You have to be able to reach top 50 in the first place

[modest citrus]

The other most top is spenders

[lapis kite]

And lelwanis massively helps with that

[modest citrus]

If your heroes are fully scrolled from onset..m you can go toe to toe with Whales

But next RNG on Equipment will make a difference of underpower or overpowering whales too

For S1 she is needed

[lapis kite]

Have tried what? Achieving top 50 without her? What baseless argument is that? There's people that can't reach top 50 even with having her lol

This statement makes no sense

[modest citrus]

For someone who is using Dauntless 😂

[hallow forum]

he is on easy server so have no real idea of ranking

[lapis kite]

Show us how you've achieved top 20 without using lelwanis, prove to use how you can do it great with using other teams and premtsa

[indigo temple]

April 8th is going to be fun

[lapis kite]

Otherwise, just watch any of the cc videos or get screenshots from anyone else with people using meta teams and you'll see that what you're saying is wrong

[torpid oar]

Who is Support 2st in S2 Irzillas boss ?, I dont have Aumar and Dark lady.

[lapis kite]

Baseless argument easily debunked

[hallow forum]

if you even get any of that XD

[lapis kite]

It sure sounds like that or he's lying

[modest citrus]

This is what I am using... I didn't start with Lelwanis 😂 doesn't mean I berate her. She has done Top 10 in server in S1. Dauntless wouldn't take you faster unless you get Grishnaar and Zeffi with full scroll of all but will lack in AOE though.

Which Lelwanis is an Hybrid in all and insane damage machine

And Lelwanis does True damage with Artifact.... Nastjenka damage can be halved if you have shield on your allies.

[indigo temple]

Dont you have a few aura heroes on your roster?

[modest citrus]

Alright, start and proof to me in ten days 😁

Don't spend at all he complete F2P like me

[lapis kite]

And compete against people that invested in lelwanis

[modest citrus]

I am awaiting you here... 😂 You will suffer not being able to with lack of Master Scrolls to make them fully effective

[lapis kite]

Even examples from his own server with his ranking compared to others would work as well

[hallow forum]

have diathne and what was other guy lync or something forgot name... but well good luck getting that boar support and 2 other aura XD

[lapis kite]

Otherwise we all know how it is when you're trying to compete against people that are using teams that do 2 or 3 times as much DMG as the next other faction and can carry rankings

[indigo temple]

Yeah i need Scaaar! he is my kind of support

[lapis kite]

Or just watch cc videos if still in doubt

[modest citrus]

Why.... 👀 I have account started S2. But current one in S1....

My first one with Berengar is in S2 by now, but my Mithreasea account is in S1 👀. Why the asking

[modest citrus]

For single bosses Sutha is best... For AOE I will prefer Tharivol, has is ULT can be used while still running to he used on another opponent before it vanishes.

[modest citrus]

And he does WR... That's the biggest win 😭. Then no more tanks for Dauntless then.

🤣 Except they want to recreate another tank for something insane.

I see the Dev creating insane stuffs for Dauntless than others 😳

One tank with insane most useful abilities of 5 heroes in 1

[hallow forum]

he is rank 51 if he used something other that does half that dmg well he would not be there wold be lot less rank

[fathom quiver]

Maashtur wasn't newly create

He existed before

[modest citrus]

Felosia shield/Torrin Heals/Tiamat WR/Garius Tanking and all 😳.. Bro, Mashtuur for the win 🤣

Hell Yeah, that's what I want

[fathom quiver]

But he is exclusive like Grishnaar

[hallow forum]

rank 81 XD

[fathom quiver]

So no banner to pull for him

[lapis kite]

Just in case anyone still believes BCFre and his arguments of "no single faction is necessary", here's a random person ranked in S4 in last week's CC

I purposefully picked someone with low inspirations

Imagine following that logic and not having lelwanis or burn

Next DMG thresholds are half or less of those

[hallow forum]

this are is how getting half of rank 50 and 80 points look like

so yeah he is 50 but ignore number 1 in front

[lapis kite]

Same thing happens in end boss, same thing happens in vortex, same thing happens when adding these scores and rankings together for the overall rank

[modest citrus]

Yes I know. I meant no need for more extra Tanks. By now only Dauntless teams has too much tanks as DPS made 😭.

Grishnaar/Mashtuur/and one extra attacking tank and some extra 2 new tanks too

To the point it's feels like Dauntless is more about Tanks than DPS 😂

[lapis kite]

I just really hope that people not experienced in the game really consider facts when planning and making decisions

For what? Overall ranking?

[modest citrus]

Isn't Mashtuur more rarer than Grishnaar 🤔. So he will be like the rarer version of rare Grishnaar right?

[lapis kite]

What rewards? End season rewards?

[fathom quiver]

He will be rarer than Grish

[lapis kite]

Getting top 50 is consequential

Pve gets you much much more score points than pvp

What's not consequential?

What do you think end season rankings is based off of?

[modest citrus]

Hahaha, another time to whale for F2P. No hopes for us 😭

[lapis kite]

And what do you think you get for high ranks in pve?

[fathom quiver]

haha true

[modest citrus]

Then I will change focus to Mashtuur hopefully I get him... I want to max abuse Arena and Fey with Mashtuur and my Mithreasea bwhahaha

It's 👀

[lapis kite]

Huh?

[modest citrus]

No scrolls and you wouldn't be able to run the Monkey King state... As that Ripekas sides will finish you with Dauntless lol

Not to talk of fighting Monkey King himself to get Highest score

Not to talk of fighting Elecebree in PVE 😂... You will first be stuck for 2-3 days thinking

[indigo temple]

Isnt that dependent on the player?

[modest citrus]

👀 You say... Bro don't even say that.

Their is one more 50 shards

And Hero Avatar that unlocks some extra Wymarrows too 👀

That's for F2P... Do I look like Spender to you

[lapis kite]

Top 50 gets you vouchers that are way better than lower rankings

So I have no idea what you're on about

Depends on the team, it can have a significant impact on your score yes

[modest citrus]

So you remove those..... Aren't this materials needed for you growth for each seasons and storyline to enjoy 🤔. If you remove all those tell me, how you hope to rank higher or win anything

[lapis kite]

In s4 you're not going to get high score without good burn team for example unless your server isn't competitive

In previous seasons the same could be said about summon

[modest citrus]

Was never a whale...

[lapis kite]

Factually incorrect based on how much more score you get

In competitive servers? Yes. And depends on what rank youre after, for top 50 deifnitely

[modest citrus]

Lelwanis is the only team that's Hybrid....

Range + forward Attacker combine and Defense with it.

The only hero with 3 in 1 heroes ability in 1 Exclusive

[lapis kite]

In s4 less so, burn takes the crown so far

And ofc corrosion

[modest citrus]

Every heroes has one dedicated side... Only Lelwanis teams are overall number 1 general.

So that's why they said for F2P to go for her and she is quite ultra stronger since Reborn unlock Old DH when she is a bit weaker

[hallow forum]

still having 800m on summon is not to be ignored and replaced with 400 or less

[modest citrus]

4 is if the game is your home and a job to you. 2 for working class person, 3 for unemployed, 4 for no life person.

[lapis kite]

S1 - wild and summon as f2p and you'll be lightyears ahead competition. Or you can skip wild and go heavy on IB in S2. There's f2p people in my guild that planned better than I did and are doing better than I did

You will absolutely be ahead of others if you plan right, summon being so impactful makes investment top tier

Can you have high rankings without that? Sure if your server isn't competitive

Or you're lucky

[lapis kite]

Absolutely. And in S4 burn is just crushing rankings, no other team comes close

Nothing wrong with that argument and that argument has nothing to do with whether a single faction can change your rankings significnatly

It looks like you're doing a strawman again

[modest citrus]

Nastjenka/Lelwanis/Bedelle/Rook as my Top 4... 👀

At least everyone should agree for this for F2P

[lapis kite]

That would give you a very strong roster

For S4 only thing is change is replace nast or beldelle with burn

That's no way most efficient and you can definitely plan and pull a dmg school

[modest citrus]

Replace Nastjenka as how... When Guinevivre will follow through. Was talking of long term for Dauntless with Mashtuur incoming too

Sure Burn will be 5th

[lapis kite]

These areguments are so easy to debunk I really think I'm getting trolled

[modest citrus]

Then 6th will be Shadow for Fey for those who love more challenge

[tranquil sparrow]

I desire Guin but I'll never see her banner unless I echo summons once the Apr.7 patch hits

that's really what I should be saving for tbh

[modest citrus]

That's why I gave the 4 elements as universal then all others are for special cases... Some for CC, some for End game and all

[kindred steppe]

Are there any working codes now?

[indigo temple]

https://klipy.com/gifs/mirrorverse-pins

[lapis kite]

Thing is what content the teams would be used in. Dauntless and ice blast are both speed runners and early vortex. They fill the same spot for the content, with getting ahead depending on specifics. So long term having 1 strong speed runners team and early vortex + they can be reused in fey and then going for rook for late vortex and summon for ranking, id go for burn for also cc and end boss ranking personally

[kindred steppe]

Last post ive seen is like 3m old

[hallow forum]

they did wish summon and not sure if maybe we understand how it works wrong maybe its pulling on other banners and get at 800 what you selected... They will have to come up with some solution for ppl from S1,2,3... when they join same season as ppl that did all that and got heroes...

[indigo temple]

@light thistle its your time to shine

[lapis kite]

This isn't to say that dauntless isnt strong, in fact they are amazing with heavy investment. But with limited resources it's a tough call. Especially imagine if they release Fredegonda artefact and god knows what that will do to ib

[light thistle]

sorry i'm not the sun

[light thistle]

Reminder

Codes:

Bugalol
QuantumMage
Paranoid
Nexus
THINKBIG

[indigo temple]

Helpa-kun, what are you doing 🫡 ?

[kindred steppe]

Thank you

[light thistle]

watching a video of bikeriders

[indigo temple]

Is it the one in Argentina where they ride from the top of a mountain?

[lapis kite]

I'm hopeful but worried that the new pull system might not be easy to work with :/ but I'll have to see to form an opinion when it goes live

[light thistle]

idk i put the link on off topic

[lapis kite]

Might be a misunderstanding with element Vs DMG school

[hallow forum]

I am under impression that they will probably slow down old servers and how much heroes they get and speed up new servers to catch up

[indigo temple]

Most people are building 2 at a time so there is nothing to worry about.

[kindred steppe]

How was it btw, do I have to summ on regular banner till first lego?

[lapis kite]

Then definitely makes no sense to spread thin on an element. Better to focus on DMG schoolds

I don't operate on that assumption lol I'm just saying that you're wrong

Agree to disagree

[indigo temple]

Why? 🤔

[lapis kite]

Possibly, but with so many new characters coming out in s5 s6 I just have no idea what we're supposed to do to pull effectively

[indigo temple]

#🐲┆dragonheir-chat message

[lapis kite]

That's not even mentioning the exclusive supports that we can't pick :/

[indigo temple]

Yes but F2p isnt trying to pull on 4 elements. And Even those that are paying are not doing that often

[lapis kite]

Pull summon, ice blast, corrosion and burn

Done

[lapis kite]

Exactly

That's 4 different dmg schools not elements. Just because they belong to different elements is irrelevant

[modest citrus]

What of Ghost Rider movie 🍿👀

[lapis kite]

All depends on the season

[light thistle]

no comment

[modest citrus]

Have you watched it

[light thistle]

a very long time ago

[lapis kite]

This has become a discussion about optimal pull strategies which is a massive topic in itself with so many variables and luck involved.
Nothing to do with original discussions around impact of lelwanis, usefulness of premtsa or even what that means to the score

[light thistle]

but isn't what i'm watching actually @modest citrus

[kindred steppe]

Is it worth doing that? Or just play normally and go for later selected?

[modest citrus]

So which bike riders are you watching

[lapis kite]

I hope people make their opinions based on what was showcase and evidenced from screenshots that we pasted not just typing of what person is able to achieve without any evidence

[light thistle]

it's already in #🐉┆off-topic-chat

[lapis kite]

My last thing to say is best of luck to all of us in S5 and S6 re-release with banner pulls

[modest citrus]

Okay just seen... That's good one 👍

[indigo temple]

Its up to you and the roster you are trying to build.

[vital elm]

@modest citrus legendary hero in 60 summons. Should i pull here?

[modest citrus]

Man will it be called seasons again or something more 👀. If they pack all of us to one board.

Imagine I am S1 joined with S5 people like you all 🤣😭.

[lapis kite]

Yeah I really hope people catching up will be ok

[kindred steppe]

I did it once back in august and it was very close with a lot more codes around

[modest citrus]

Share the Legendary heroes in your Prophecy code...

For 60 that's too much for Prophecy code except you got Exclusive DPS or Support on that 60th dice 🤔

[lapis kite]

Keep your baseless insults to yourself pls, thx

[modest citrus]

We will see how it goes... Then they have to increase the Wymarrows and Dices given then

[lapis kite]

Which would be great I think? Dunno, the Devs will do it in a way that still gets them money

So something will have to shift

[modest citrus]

Some are complaining they will miss Grishnaar banner in S4 they missed... So 🤔 how will they do with selector banners for the rare ones that came from S3/S4 for those who will miss it and jump to S5. 🤦‍♂️ Because some planned for it to see it goes out the door

[lapis kite]

So if they give out more dice I'm sure there will be other places we'll be limited for resources for

[light thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/derpy-ouroboros-ouroboros-snake-tail-snake-gif-10572710539427286483

[lapis kite]

This is the biggest problem I think, I personally am very annoyed about missing out in reytah :/

Whether they'll will still run these somehow, we don't even know

[modest citrus]

Yeah true but they need to up more dices..... But it's gonna be more fun if gear issues is first solved

[lapis kite]

Agreed

[modest citrus]

Nothing on Wymarrows beats Ancestral Ruins PVE 👀

And nothing beats Dices amount in Monkey King Events 👀

Those are PVE which Lelwanis are crucial in

[light thistle]

no, i have no words.

100m more is always better than just 205m.

[hallow forum]

https://klipy.com/gifs/dog-chasing-tail-1

[light thistle]

it make a diff on the ranking 🤣

[modest citrus]

Where is your Irzillas 😳 and Zharloth there 😂 even if you didn't use Lelwanis. That damage is a bit lower try with this I said and share score

[hallow forum]

They add tiamat banner 2 times. Grishnar 2 times. Probably will be Rheyta 2 times. But well we will have to wait and see. Also they didnt specify what season they adding on global server unless i missed it. They said last season. On global that would be S5. On China its S6. Question is what exactly did they mean by last season is it S5 or S6

[light thistle]

s4

score i did last week

good luck to do this or more with ur premtsa.

nothing more to say for lelwanis

[hallow forum]

think you are missing premsa on that team you would do more 😛 🤣

[modest citrus]

Except for Lelwanis/Bernade/Tiamat/Irzillas I don't have. 😭 Only Felosia in yours I got bro 🤣

[light thistle]

i don't care 🤣

[modest citrus]

Man I have been managing Ladehila 🤣

[light thistle]

lelwanis is the only big dps in summon, premsta will never do a lot like this

[lapis kite]

All great questions

[light thistle]

i give up

[modest citrus]

🤣 Alright try using that your team in dungeons first

You will suffer more than with Lelwanis and Bernade there

Lelwanis alone and other there will over carry you.... You might need Bernade to complete or manage Premsta there. But Lelwanis is the biggest unit in Necrosis 😂.

She is the only one with zero replacement in her faction

Hvitar still has Vidimir to replace... Same with Nastjenka with Guinevere. Just zero for Lelwanis 🤣 and not using her is losing way more insane damage than ever

75% ignore Defense

That's like the Claw Artifact on an hero...

Imagine her with Claw Artifact she will do way more than Premsta not to talk about her Main Artifact that's insane

Never.... 😁. Try that in Grave of Rot and come back to me

Which is not true 😂 I have rerun this S1 more than 50 times than you lil

Do you know what they call me 🤣

Master Reroller

I am saying I have tested more than you

From begining till Spider region I know almost all things in most locations and tested heros and see insane damage score with Lelwanis than without

I have used Lelwanis more than 4-5 times

Nastjenka more than 3 times.... Hvitar twice and Wild once

She is designed to win dungeons in poor gears that others can't

Which is enough to roughly win to the max stages before your best team can even get best gears to beat her

So tell me which team you used to Win Grave of Venom and Grave of Rot to lvl 18... Let's not talk about Lvl 20

You say... I can with her.

Lelwanis/Tiamat/Bernade/Premsta/Torrin and they will run all the dungeons the Fastest for you

With poor Equipment

Before you even think about Poison Speedruns and Nastjenka own.. you will first need serious need of great Equipment to pull this off

All dungeons I see in S1 is Lelwanis that took it... Those with other units says because they lack Great Equipment that's why they haven't outran it.

So imagine at weak equipment she is the best Speedrunner than everyone there

S1 at the beginning with max Pyschicore, where did you want to see it 🤣

In my Server they finished Fey 300 on Day 10/11 😂

With Lelwanis as Top 3... Same in Vortex, same in Dungeons

Bro I remembered running Necrosis and got Top 5 first week. With Nastjenka I am suffering but it outran in some conditions than Lelwanis when I needed it.

That's for others not for Lelwanis 🤣

Hybrid is jack of all trades

Yes in dungeons and Fey you can run Necrosis team there

Even Lelwanis/Premsta/Ghul'ende/Ripekas/Torrin will run alot

In Vortex beginning Lelwanis is the King of Vortex S1

Before Nastjenka a little then Flora lastly Taking the major run

As F2P... You need an. hybrid team for everything

And only Lelwanis and her team does this

ST and AOE together is Lelwanis

You need a tankier team, still Lelwanis

[vale cliff]

wow are you seriously still discussing Lelwanis hahahaha

[modest citrus]

You need insane CC and Healing still Lelwanis carrying them

All summoners works for Lelwanis.... Even Tiamat does 100 times better for summoners when Lelwanis is in the team

[vale cliff]

😄 😄 😄 😄

[modest citrus]

Nothing about Lelwanis is suboptimal she is optimal and insane with Artifact

[vale cliff]

@rain trellis look at this, girl. 2 hours+ discussion: Lelwanis vs Premtsa 😄 what a day

[modest citrus]

Just like how Flora is insane without Artifact and most useful in Wild... Remove her and you will feel suboptimal

[hallow forum]

she is that good

[modest citrus]

Better in where let's begin 😁

The fastest damage Premsta can do is in 30 seconds before Lelwanis out damage her insanely

In PVP face Nastjenka team with no Lelwanis and see how you die than with Lelwanis 🤣 and calculate damage

So what's Lelwanis for if not long format.... 👀

In Vortex who is Queen of Vortex if not Flora

No matter what you say in Vortex 😂 Flora always queen... For Running dungeons in whack equipment only Lelwanis will take you through

Premsta ain't doing anything to help there

In short fight she is insane

I think you forgot she can summon 2-3 purple summons for more fights and still do insane Damages before her ULT

I have used Premsta without Lelwanis before 😑

And she is too bad in PVP unless you have some crucial people to shield her off.... Lelwanis can come close and still not dies and kill you

In Dungeons everyone can dies and Lelwanis will be alive alone to still win it

Premsta in hell will never

Give me the choices

Premsta is just a mini DPS not an insane DPS like Lelwanis

It's like saying you can replace Nastjenka in Dauntless, you will feel excessive loss. No one replaces her there

We can still Manage with Hvitar and say Vidimir for most modes for AOE ULT, nothing out damages Hvitar in insane coverage

[modest citrus]

In CC suppression and insane kills, nothing out damages Lelwanis in there

[modest citrus]

And you think he will replace Lelwanis 🤣... Bwhahaha let me laugh small

[hallow forum]

https://klipy.com/gifs/shut-up-and-take-my-money-24

🤣

[modest citrus]

Alright test this dude in Necrosis and Lelwanis alone in Necrosis faction and share damages of both

We can settle score there.
But you acted like you have tested it before

In S1 yes I have 👀

I remembered getting Rank 1 in 3 dungeons with Lelwanis

In Fey I got Top 3 there

Got Top 3 in Arena before

And do you think I never got that... Do you think I started playing DragonHeir this year

Not asking anything, you are the one asking.

I said Premsta ain't out damaging Lelwanis in anywhere

In all the contents, even in special spot of Replacement Premsta can't ever replace her not even that new hero you showed there

Share the one with Lelwanis and the one with Premsta only let's see

Proof me wrong here with screenshot if you got

And so... I am in begining of season too

We are speaking about who out damages the most and less important...

Lelwanis space can't be replaced... Premsta will try but can't reach

If you don't have Lelwanis no issues, but saying Premsta will out damage Lelwanis and more useful everything is planned off

Hahaha for me who has been in DragonHeir for more than 2 years 😂 ran more than 50 accounts

Who are you trying to deceive

So because you tested, and what's the proofs of me not testing at all you hold against me

Proof it to me that I never tested

Show me how I haven't tested it

You don't even have the Lelwanis and you are saying she is less useful 😂

Have her first and test besides Premsta then come and argue with everyone on board here

There share damage on board with other dungeons and with Premsta only let's see timing

And the damage too

In a single ULT in Grave of Rot 18 😂

You think it's Dauntless or Lothair you are using 🤣😭 bro is going geeky

[indigo temple]

https://klipy.com/gifs/im-sorry-what-calvin-payne

[indigo temple]

You should have been here yesterday

[light thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/chat-over-coins-insert-gif-24369572

[modest citrus]

https://tenor.com/view/dancing-pigeon-gif-4389662895822409565

[indigo temple]

Man bring on the Crisis war. Im ready now!

[light thistle]

be patient

[hallow forum]

https://klipy.com/gifs/donald-duck-slug

[indigo temple]

Urgency is just another form of patience

[light thistle]

[hallow forum]

https://klipy.com/gifs/potato-tomato-brooklyn99

[indigo temple]

I believe i am prepared for all eventualities 🫶🏾

[light thistle]

u forgot the whisky

[indigo temple]

Im more of stoner sir. i dont mind the whisky but i like to puff

And beer.... Always beer

[hallow forum]

what a hell did you do to game ? looks like breaking pinyata

[indigo temple]

If you are in Portugal, bring me a case of these

[hallow forum]

portugal beer ?

[indigo temple]

Yes sir. I am smitten with it sir

[light thistle]

I'm going to pretend I didn't see or read anything.

[hallow forum]

never had chance to test not sure how it is 😅

[light thistle]

my poor eyes 🤣

[indigo temple]

I hate that they made our rares and epics less integral in the new version. i had even forgotten that i had Sigrid.

[hallow forum]

yeah at moment if you use her its only cos 100% healing reduction she dont do much dmg now they eally made sure there is difference between power of legendary and all other

[indigo temple]

Sad

Does Thunderbolt need atk-spd?

[hallow forum]

well still there is some use cos mot of healing reduction is like 50% she have 100%

[hallow forum]

actually his pasive and talent with 30% chance to trigger lightning can make attack speed work

he is basically first epic TB that actually is not too bad

[indigo temple]

I think this is the first time i have seen that debuff on any unit 🤔

[hallow forum]

yeah but think its same as artifact that we have 15% or something let me check

nah they named it differently

😅

[indigo temple]

From golden antlers right?

Who is applying that or what arti?

[indigo temple]

Do they stack? 👀

[hallow forum]

well we had that same icon with derivative dmg armor but its also different description

but i was sure i read somewere damage resistence penalty but now am not sure what caused it was sure its golden antlers but i was wrong

[hallow forum]

o yeah you can apply all of this different effects just icon is same

[vale cliff]

who is that guy?

[indigo temple]

Dielke.

[vale cliff]

yea but who is that

[indigo temple]

New rally epic. I think he came out in S4 but dont quote me on that

[vale cliff]

ok cool, never seen him be4

but rarely check epics 😄

[hallow forum]

well dont remember him in old game so you should be right XD

[hallow forum]

you start to use him as WR applier on every team ? XD

[indigo temple]

Id be surprised if you did and impressed even. We were pushed towards using legendaries so its understandable.

[indigo temple]

This is what he has on, everyone else is naked. I wanted to see which ones he applies and how many he debuffs with more than just WIll of stag

[vale cliff]

he looks like a young version of mad eye moody

[indigo temple]

It seems possible to apply all 3 on more than a single unit

[hallow forum]

this time epic and rare they add have some uses its not just slap some useless skills

[vale cliff]

that's a unique effect at least

[hallow forum]

they sold me cheep copy of wolf XD

on paper dont even sound bad but didnt seam to actually perform good

[vale cliff]

the melee burn guy they removed was decent tho

[hallow forum]

they will probably add him back just later

[indigo temple]

https://klipy.com/gifs/i-like-that-dan-gallagher

[vale cliff]

very good

[hallow forum]

but this wolf sounds like cheep version of duram but didnt perform good XD

[river imp]

I have a question, about the april 7. I saw in youtube videos that people talk about that they are fusing account slots on the same email.

My first slot on the email lelwanis
Second slot got elecibre

Do i get elecibre on my lelwanis account since that account is older? Or do they stay seperate

[light thistle]

I don't recall reading that in the official announcements.

[river imp]

So there is no way i get elecibre on my main slot?

[indigo temple]

https://klipy.com/gifs/dragon-ball-z-fusion-J9K

What we are getting Gotenks accounts?

[light thistle]

i don't know, for the moment u can't, we'll see the news announcements what they'll say

[indigo temple]

Yeah thats not gonna happen, but the way.
Perish the thought

[river imp]

Also why cant i see the proficy summon code entery

[river imp]

Okok

[light thistle]

@vagrant aurora u know something about that ? maybe i missed something ?

[river imp]

I might be really wrong tho😂

[vagrant aurora]

nothing has been announced to that yet, but could be possible, we need to wait for more nfos

but i doubt it will get fused

that would be against all the decisions of the past

[river imp]

Not even transfer 1 hero?

[indigo temple]

I dont see my 2 accs becoming Gogeta. It would be cool but i seriously doubt it. They want to make money is the easiest reason why this wont happen

[vagrant aurora]

never did, and hopefully never will

[river imp]

Sad

[river imp]

😭😭

[vagrant aurora]

if they would, we could make massiv accounts now, roll massive dices on starters and let them fuse for a lot of benefits and Inspirations

that be a slap in the face of what has been done so far (and was good!) no fusing !

[light thistle]

yeah and it will not be funny

[river imp]

I see

[river imp]

Anything about that?

[vagrant aurora]

we mostlikey get to choose one server per adventurer per login-mail

[river imp]

What does that mean

[vagrant aurora]

you wont have 2 of your adventurers on same server

[river imp]

Ahhhh

[blazing fox]

Hello guys
i'll be on live in some minutes and will do some giveaway on live for heliotites
welcome everybody. live is here : #🎞┆creator-streaming-vids message

[bold iris]

Man waiting for new season to start is sooo long 😂

[indigo temple]

Focus on Crisis War.

Thats going to be fun for sure. 🥳

[slate shell]

Hey people, do you know if we’re able to forge 2 pieces here, provided I get to 100 Goldmeltium?

[river imp]

Only 1 sadly

I atleast could only craft one in season 1

[hallow forum]

you got extra to upgrade stats after forging. There will be 3 buttons. Dont click on collect directly untill you finished upgrading stats to as max as possible

[stark bloom]

Do y’all prefer a flat stat? Or percentage? Like atk? Or Atk %?

[hallow forum]

some ppl beging devs to delete flat stats for ages now... think that should give answer how bad they are XD

[stark bloom]

I see, but why? If you don’t mind me asking.

[terse estuary]

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[hallow forum]

well for that i would need to log in and am not doing that now but you could check eventually your self... Flats stats dont even compare amount of attack, deffense and dmg you will get from perfentage based is on totally different level when all is put together

early game when your rank is low like 30 or something flat stats will probably give you more moment you get 100 rank it is not evne funny to compare

so flat stats just make you have less chance to get good gear for mid and end game

[stark bloom]

I see.

So, this is just an example, will this work?

[hallow forum]

yes but you dont want deffense you especially not on dps gear and usually you want to build dps gear there

so you want crit dmg, crit chance attack

some ppl like to balance it bit of crit dmg and bit of attack i focus most on crit dmg

also not sure you want to build that helmet but carnage gauntlets or carnage armor

[stark bloom]

My team that carried me throughout so far is Sintrellia, Eurion, Torrin, Premtsa and Lelwanis. Premtsa and Lelwanis have been my highest DPS. Which gear would you recommend for either of them?

[hallow forum]

bit forgot what gear is there in S1 cos they change gear with seasons. But lelwanis needs high attack, 80% ctit chance and as much crit dmg as you can put. If you could do like 400% crit dmg... That helmet was one of solid dps items. Cargane gauntlets or armor are one of best dps hear you have in S1-3. All of them ate 1 peace set and cant use more than 1. Well you can but you dont get bonus 2 times only 1 time

there was also peace that when your hp is over 80% or something like that you do bonus dmg 20% or 25% forgot numbers...

[alpine oracle]

Flat stats are only better for first few days of season then around level 70 I believe % become mathematically superior

[stark bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/notes-note-take-notes-daffy-notes-daffy-note-gif-7089549869873009522

I see. Thank you so much! 😊🫶🏼

[alpine oracle]

Llewanis was best in Gambier season 1

[hallow forum]

would be easier if i could screen shot but well dont have 😅

[stark bloom]

This helped a lot. Thank you! 😊

[hallow forum]

was also good option attack speed + extra dmg based on lelwanis insane attack stat

[stark bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/mark-cuban-shark-tank-notes-taking-notes-remember-gif-15073512

Got it, thank you! 😊

[hallow forum]

lelwanis as she power up gets insane attack stat and deffense stat so set was triggering bonus dmg on attack based on attack stat

and for premsa you probably already know as high as possible enlightment and attack she dont do much crit cos 90% of her dmg if derivative and derivative dmg gets stronger with attack and enlightment

[stark bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/writing-taking-notes-gif-27156565

[hallow forum]

dells lelwanis... insane stats and he said few ppl had even higher

aim for attack, crit dmg and crit chance like that but its hard to build that high 😅

[stark bloom]

I don’t have any red gears yet, but definitely working on it. 🤞🏼😊

I’m aiming for her arti right now. Hoping to get a fodder inspire Lego to use it with.

It’s either her or Ladehlia. Don’t really have that much of a choice. 😒😩

[hallow forum]

o for sure one of best artifacts in game... As she get stacks she also get ignore deffense. So 50% deffense ignore or 70% when combined with sintrelia. And her attack and deffense goes up with stacks cant remember was something like 350% increase in attack and deffense...

powerhouse but well takes bit time to power up

[stark bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/excited-ah-ahh-gif-24288323

I’m so excited!!! lol.

[little pivot]

Only good below level 59

Above that, % stats are VASTLY superior and flat stats become spoilers for gear

Since level 59 is available from week 1 of every season, you can imagine that flat stats become useless QUICK

[stark bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/good-doctor-note-taking-taking-notes-notes-gif-13852159233854252286

[stark bloom]

Thank you! 😊

[stark bloom]

Which inspire should I use to get an arti for Lelwanis? Auster, Wu Kong, Torrin, Sintrillia or Premtsa?

[shell iris]

Wu kong 🙂

[tulip glade]

Wu Kong is talwer

[terse rapids]

Can anyone pls help with fey 170 team ? .thx

[stark bloom]

Thanks! 😊

[mild spindle]

ROOK is still the best in vortex?

[hallow forum]

if i5

[sleek furnace]

So many Radiance runes... 🤪

[vagrant aurora]

As i said yesterday, i can now confirm, no fusing of individual adventurers

[rain trellis]

I’m to lazy to read everything he said but I personally love them both I still use premsta in dungeons all the time 😂

[light thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/penguin-hello-hi-cute-gif-13905880940590312511

[visual oak]

Hi, guys who shall I pick between Alaura & Aemonleyda?

[light thistle]

depend ur roster

[fathom quiver]

rather alaura for Thudnerbolt than Aemonleyda

[marble portal]

Any info how many new legendary in next season?

[light thistle]

#📢┆game-announcements message

I wonder what the point is of making announcements if people don't even take a few seconds or minutes to read them...

[fathom quiver]

If you are in S4 right now you are looking at approximately 20 new legendary heroes

[tulip glade]

The 2 + 4 is so tight. I hope there's something else. How is it even possible to select 2 DPS leggos when u're in the 1st month of s1. To catch-up to s5. There's at least 3 DPS per season that they released. And everyone who went through that has 2 DPS leggos. Lest we see

[little pivot]

At least two of the DPS from season 1 are still relevant in S5

Lelwanis and Nastjenka

[fathom quiver]

Exactly

[fathom quiver]

Since servers are oriented for players strength you will presumably be put in a server with players who have a close play time to yours

Play time not actual in time but will probably count how many seasons you played so far

That is an assumption but I hope Devs will do this approach

[tulip glade]

I guess this is the main thing

Do y'all think it's worth for me to just pull lelwanis before the server stuff happens so that I can use the slots on the more latest heroes? Beldelle, guin, aschetius, ozul, perkunte, etc?

[little pivot]

they should probably round up and down imo

cus someone on s4 endgame is significantly more resource'd out than someone on day 1

[alpine oracle]

https://giphy.com/gifs/too-long-didnt-read-the-frog-wizard-i-aint-readin-all-that-0gIQqyDATQINBSpmO3

[light thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/voldemort-harry-potter-avada-kedavra-gif-12401009

Maybe I went a bit overboard. Although... 🤣

[tulip glade]

I want feeenja.

[alpine oracle]

as long as you're fairly certain that you will have 300 by April 7 then I would grab more Lelwanis

[tulip glade]

Ye I have almost 600 now already

I have only used 10 so I can get started on wukong 110 pulls

[alpine oracle]

then all you have to do is pull for Beldelle on the 7th , you will be able to select Feenja on 200 I believe

[tulip glade]

The lewanis rerun banner will come out on the first of April for me

On 200? Of the 2+4?

[alpine oracle]

Summons is probably the best all around team even if it is not meta at all for vortex

[bright jetty]

this hero still good any content?

[hallow forum]

https://tenor.com/view/putin-путин-многа-букв-не-буду-читать-больше-0-букв-gif-5124297594117253854

[tulip glade]

Basically in my opinion. Wild is kinda not good. The special effect takes too long to initiate and last for 1 round of ults.

[alpine oracle]

the way the first selector of the season will work after the 7th is you pick your DPS exclusive ahead of time then you can pick a reguar leggo at 100 and a regular support at 200 of that choices element

[alpine oracle]

PASS

[bright jetty]

this one?

[alpine oracle]

i mean you CAN use her but BURN generally becomes better than WILD with similar investment

[tulip glade]

What's the burn special effects now?

2 | 3

[light thistle]

@fathom quiver @vagrant aurora Can we take a few days of vacation? 🤣 🤣

[alpine oracle]

On meta Summons

[vagrant aurora]

Before april7 yes 😉

[light thistle]

argh

perfect

see u the april 7th so 🤣

[alpine oracle]

https://giphy.com/gifs/instagram-viral-nazoom-BKw04PbLlfOl2tzrwO

[bright jetty]

I have 200 chances to win, should I try my luck?

[alpine oracle]

https://giphy.com/gifs/no-nope-tracy-morgan-spfi6nabVuq5y

300 or bust

[hallow forum]

wild have major problem that it dont work good enough with 2 enablers like other teams do. Need 3 enablers. And even then few other things can beat them with just 2 enablers. Its hard to keep team alive if you use 3 enablers.

[bright jetty]

okey

[hallow forum]

you want to have her as enabler for lelwanis. Can up summon dmg by i think was 60% aside from making lelwanis pass usual cap 50 stacks and go to 70 stacks

[hallow forum]

you mean pasive or what burn does ?

[light thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/lousisi-gif-7203296558758564278

[tulip glade]

The 2 | 3 specially ability when u have 2 or 3 burn heroes

[hallow forum]

Was something about increasing ignite amount when enemy already have burn applied on them... But let me log in XD

[tulip glade]

But she is counted as DPS school?

[tulip glade]

Dont

I don't want you to login. You are doing better things already

[tulip glade]

Oh wow

[hallow forum]

well she is summon but she is not going to do much dmg just will buff lelwanis by a lot

[vagrant star]

So....

Wyd when by the end of the season the only equipment worth saving is the one you've crafted?🐱

S3 was brutal for my luck. Not a single good roll

[tulip glade]

Just asking for the summon 7th April thing is she's counted in DPS pool or the support pool?

[light thistle]

both

[tulip glade]

Breathing. Actually breathing without think about the game

[hallow forum]

pretty sure paranoid said considering saving 1 gear he crafter already 1-2 seasons ago XD

[light thistle]

he will offer me one Reytah !

❤️

[vagrant star]

Ahah, same boat

[fathom quiver]

hehe you know me too well

Also forgot to claim it this season lol

[hallow forum]

damn XD

[fathom quiver]

So no busted perfect stats crafted mythic+ for my paranoia

[vagrant star]

Daaymm

[fathom quiver]

Gonna see me complain next season xD

The excuses are coming hard

[light thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/chicken-gif-7202518248086882735

[vagrant star]

Understandable, have a nice day

Ahah, I'm gonna complain about the merging of the seasons though

I wanted to take a break...

But now you can't just come back to where you left off.

Now you're on a constant treadmill. Which is also a boat that sails in the 🌊 of 🐋

[hallow forum]

rats die to early even with shield pet XD

[hallow forum]

what was gear peace you planed to craft ?

[quick shell]

guys can you check if you can open the bountless chest after the update?

[light thistle]

no i can't

nothing happen when i clic on

[quick shell]

yeah same

[terse estuary]

Top Up now and receive 5% extra crystals: Official Website

[tranquil sparrow]

What should I use against Vasska or Tamar for Continental Challenge? I was thinking stacking debuffs with toxin team for tamar and frost for vasska with thia as main heal

Ripekas to cover as well of course

didn't do too badly in combat sim so i kept results. so far still #1 on my server, which feels pretty good even if it will be transient once the big whales log in

[hallow forum]

man 4 seasons different mechanics who is going to remember you could check scratch or gorax videos they did give some suggested teams that work good but ofc things can be done different that what they did

[tranquil sparrow]

no worries, I did pretty well for myself so I'm content with my team choices

I can always optimize further next week

[light thistle]

if u are not lazy yeah

[hallow forum]

you can also check what others use in those fights in game so maybe give you idea what works good

[tranquil sparrow]

yeah but that usually gives advantage to those who do the challenge later, whereas I like to do it quickly and get it over with so i don't forget

[hallow forum]

well if like that then its easy to check what other ppl used in video and try if it works for you or do enough testing your self and find team that works XD

[tranquil sparrow]

yeah, I'm kinda dumb lol

all my game sense goes to warframe

[trim echo]

havin trouble doin enough dmg before time runs out in this support only fight (one lego allowed), Is Tiamat with artifact the lego to use or someone else better? Rest of team of epic/rare support?

[light thistle]

without know ur box/roster and artifs u have, how can we help you ?

[trim echo]

whoopsdid'nt post

[hallow forum]

tiamat was doing good dmg on it but her dmg depends on number of debuffs you have on boss more debuffs more dmg she does. Ofc her attack is also important. For supports well you could try dane he tend to do good dmg and recharge fast as boss hp drops.

[light thistle]

where are guinavivre, lelwanis, beldelle and co ?

[trim echo]

its support only

[light thistle]

oh

quaesitia / astaion / tiamat / ripekas / felosia don't work ?

[trim echo]

hence the trouble not doing enough dmg before time runs out, if i could have IceBlast pounding on her it wouldn't be a problem lol

Can only use one lego

[hallow forum]

and dane

[trim echo]

one lego support, 4 epic/rare support is requirements

[hallow forum]

something like that combination

[tranquil sparrow]

Sigrid my beloved ❤️

[light thistle]

mmh for me i would day : adolphus horrus dane quaesitia zharloth

[trim echo]

thx will try that

[hallow forum]

astaion reduce boss hp and deffense so you do more dmg, she also apply good amount of debuffs for tiamat to use with her artifact. Ripakas also apply lots of debuffs. Zharlot can do nice dmg, Dane can do high dmg especially in fights where enemy can lose hp... he recharge fast vs low hp

[light thistle]

1 one legendary hero @hallow forum

and 4 epics / rares

[hallow forum]

well didnt see that in first coment... that was still reply to first XD

[light thistle]

yeah same

[hallow forum]

then tiamat for sure

[light thistle]

tiamat with wr, or quaesitia with wr can work too

[hallow forum]

no not WR on her if he can apply enough debuffs with rare and epic she will do high dmg with artifact

supports usually dont do much dmg aside from dane and zharlot

[light thistle]

dane isn't bad as dps

for an epic heroes i mean

we need to see how he stuff each heroes

[hallow forum]

If you cant apply enough debuffs on enemy maybe astaion with WR is better as sole legendary in team than tiamat

reduce boss deffense and hp should make fight easier

if just 1-2 debuffs its not much dmg

[trim echo]

this got it down to about 2.8m of 8m HP. Closest i got with Tiamat team was about 1 mil left

[light thistle]

and how u gear urs heroes ?

[tranquil sparrow]

woah, i need an Astaion, dang.

[trim echo]

i dont kno wtf artifacts work with these chars i never use

[tranquil sparrow]

Adolphus my boi, he uses the tiara for more shields last I checked

[hallow forum]

dane should be dps not sure why he is WR XD

[light thistle]

the problem is here

[hallow forum]

put attack crit chance crit dmg as high as possible

[light thistle]

and there is no buff with gear he used

[hallow forum]

shielding would not kill stuff when you already dont do enough dmg XD

[light thistle]

need this set 3 pieces on 1 hero for buff a little

[trim echo]

got down to 500k with this , i'll put that set on someone

[light thistle]

and puppet set on another hero to rota on 18s

[hallow forum]

so just need to squize bit more dmg trough sets or maybe add 1 more dps instead of tank

good chance adolphus and zharl will give enough to stay alive shield + heal

[trim echo]

beat it with Sigrid in for Adolphus, thx folks

[hallow forum]

well now you have idea of what rare/epic you could use in future in similar situation 😅

they tend to add challenges like that always XD

[fathom quiver]

I think the Atk up gear

On bracers with crit dmg main and crit rate sub

[hallow forum]

this one ?

[fathom quiver]

Yes

I compared def stats from vortex and cc and thought that Atk up brings me more than them having def reduced

Was a difference of 400atk in theory

[hallow forum]

I went with ignore deffense but seams not best choice with how much deffense reduction we have in game already it dont seam to have high enough impact

[light thistle]

i want my carnage gloves 🙁

[hallow forum]

yeah cut in half... and then kind of adding 20% more ignore deffense dont seam to be as much as 20% more attack would be

833 deffence is already relatively low making it in to 666 deffense is not much difference...

[sleek acorn]

Hi guys, good? I hope so, ahm, about sigrid challenge, i dont have hook, reyta and sacredeia (yeah so sad) some of you know if can I do almost 200k with other options?

[light thistle]

It's like riding a bike with only one pedal.

personally i use oggok and frurbath with whisk rook and sacredeia, but u'll need sacredeia

( yeah i don't have reytah too )

[hallow forum]

am sure i can do 200 with frost on her but dont mean it would work for you... Fight is about aoe dmg and debuffs... More debuffs on boss less dmg boss does. And ofc aoe is increased 50% so depends what is your good aoe option and finding way to keep them alive

[sleek acorn]

yeah, I guess I dont have good options

[light thistle]

maybe the epic corrosion to replace sacredeia but not sure about dmg :x

[sleek acorn]

my "poison" type hahah dont laught, btw necro I have all

[hallow forum]

Boss apply lots of random 100% healing reduction. So you need debuf imunity or remove debuffs

Not sure if your corrosion would end up with enough dmg. So you will have to test. Oggok + furbath are must or you die too early. Rook+ whisk + dargo probably. Or what was name of dwarf with purple cristal hair. But probably wont be enough dmg.

[sleek acorn]

i will try, ty guys

[light thistle]

gegnu?

[hallow forum]

Not sure his name but if no sacredia those 2 are best option but not good enough

Dargo can put highest corosion from epic. Gegnu or what ever is name make enemy get increased corosion. 15% i think around him. So he would make whisk put more corrosion

But sacredia increase by lot more than that

yeah its gagnu but i remember percentage wrong its just 5% increase

cant even compare to... 15% +30 % and extra true dmg another 15%

[hallow forum]

no timings not even saved team vs sigrid...

alpanarsi not even scrolled so he have slow ulti... would go even better if he was scrolled but well 🤷‍♂️

@light thistle and they think i hate frost just cos i say that its weakest element in game

[light thistle]

isn't the case ? 🤣

[sleek acorn]

may save me, tks a lot

[hallow forum]

well hope something works good enough

and no didnt max frost/necrosis bonuses XD

[hallow forum]

lol expected that to go better vs sigrid 🤣 😂

maybe if talents are maxed XD

[rocky oracle]

this is your warning, break the rules again and you will get banned

[hardy grail]

Is felosia worth it to spend 300 dices in support banner? Or should I use them for option summon banner? My ice blast team never make it to the last second using gilian and acilia in vortex

[vital elm]

Hello guys! Can you help me with timings please 🥺

[hallow forum]

only timing there that could make any difference is zaffi and with how team looks it wont do much. Probably best timer would be 26/20. If you even have enough haste or his skills are scrolled to do that timing...

[vital elm]

He is scrolled

[light thistle]

Given the equipment, I'm not sure the timing will change anything ^^'

[hallow forum]

its like having only flat tier (no car) and asking how to shift gear on manual car...

[light thistle]

f2p or low spender ?

[cinder bolt]

Even as f2p I haven't regretted getting felosia on a 300 selector

Though it depends how many total banners you're getting per season

[hardy grail]

Ftp. Only buy $5

[hardy grail]

I could make 4

[cinder bolt]

@hardy grail Ok, you sound similar to me. I ended up getting her in s3 in a 300 selector. Shes baller everywhere. Vortex obviously very integral for ice blast

I have 0 regrets on that pull. Theres just so many crucial damage units in season 2 where you are

Bernade, durem and karf all have incredible staying power

[hardy grail]

I should get her first before Beldelle artifact?

Won't get her selector again this season if I choose Beldelle artifact first. Maybe option summon can have her selector?

[cinder bolt]

Oooo belle artifact is super important. Id personally get that first but the argument could still be made for felosia im sure.

As long as that option selector happens before April 7th.

Selector better than those 2% banners anyway which give volume but not focused on the elements you want

[hardy grail]

Is felosia available as selector in option banner?

[light thistle]

only in s1 if i remember correctly ( for felosia select at 300 )

option banner no

[hardy grail]

Hmm... so it best I get felosia banner, then bel artifact?

[light thistle]

Felosia is a good choice

Discord lag or it's me?

[fathom quiver]

Yes she is one of the top supporters in this game!

[light thistle]

' échec downloading message'

[hardy grail]

Ok then I'll grab her first. Thanks for the advice guys.

[light thistle]

I can write only on my phone lol

[fathom quiver]

Discord wants to slow you down xD

[light thistle]

For real

[hardy grail]

Do you mean I should get both felosia and bel artifact before April 7?

[light thistle]

Well, it seems to be back to normal.

[light thistle]

if u can it's a good invest

[vital elm]

@worn mauve I'll try thx

[cinder bolt]

Hmmmm now that I think of it, you won't go to season 3, so you may not get another selector for felosia. Im unsure what banners will look like when we all go to same season in April. Belle you'll certainly be able to select again. Originally, I was just saying that element selector banner would have to be before April 7th otherwise you wouldnt get a chance to do it

[rocky heron]

I'm on the first season server 150 , should I save my summon for April 7 update , or just summon

[light thistle]

no way felosia is a must have

u need supports so isn't a waste of helios.

[rocky heron]

I have hivstar. Felosia banner summons already, should I get lewious summon , the necro dragon chick or save?

[light thistle]

i don't agree with that

she give immun to control

she is important in a lot of content

[fathom quiver]

First question would be when looking at the new heroes which would you save your helios for?

If you don't want to safe you can summon now.

[light thistle]

by who ?

lmao i give up,

u say a lot of non sense

[rocky heron]

I'm a light spender , so I save 👍

[cerulean pumice]

I think BCFre is trolling😁

[light thistle]

bcfre stay with ur premtsa in CC it's good

but don't say at begginers felosia is a waste of helios

language

[rocky oracle]

This is a warning, dont call another player and idiot

[sly heron]

Both of you be nice 😄

[cerulean pumice]

https://tenor.com/view/troll-monster-scary-gif-14868761

[tranquil sparrow]

I can only imagine the content I could clear with Felosia if i had her

[sly heron]

I didn't have Felosia till S3 or something tbh x.x

[tranquil sparrow]

but Tiamat is big mommy energy

[light thistle]

yes and last time @gentle mist warning u.

[rocky oracle]

Well this is me telling you to not do that, thank you

Sorted

[restive coral]

guys is it worth to buy the “vow of championship” pack?

[rocky oracle]

Which one was that again, sorry not in the game at moment

[fathom quiver]

If it is the legendary heroes and shards it is definitely a worthy investment in my opinion

[fathom quiver]

Is it this one you mentioned?

[vale cliff]

keep slaying paradude!

[fathom quiver]

Always sillydilly^^

How are you doing?

[vale cliff]

just out here cheering for my man paradude

[tranquil sparrow]

hey, quick question - when the Rot boss spits out my Garius, it's never back in front of him and then my poor dauntless dps get eaten instead of the tank. how can I fix this?

[fathom quiver]

oh that sounds lovely^^

[fathom quiver]

Try to spread them apart

If something is blocking the line then garius will be moved back

[restive coral]

And what are the 2 legendary picks that are possibly worth?

[fathom quiver]

I think you can choose from normal legendary heroes (no exclusives) from Season 1

Plus you get enough shards for a third legendary

[tranquil sparrow]

I think i just have awful luck

[fathom quiver]

oh whys´'s that?

[restive coral]

Yeah this is the pack

[fathom quiver]

choice chests are good in so far as you can choose the hero you want

They are also fully reserved so no need to instantly lock in your choice

[restive coral]

That’s the point, which are the best options?

[fathom quiver]

mainly depending on your roster

and what dps schools you want to play

[fathom quiver]

artist at work ❤️

[vale cliff]

huge paint skills

[tranquil sparrow]

i understand, sensei

[light thistle]

😱

[fathom quiver]

You can share screenshots of your roster here:https://discord.com/channels/928541801260908546/1106807575158214767
Then I can help you better

[vale cliff]

ragor my dude! Long time no see

[gusty bolt]

you silly

how it's been for you?

[tranquil sparrow]

yup, he glitches and doesn't release garius after a few repeated swallows and then my whole team collapses

[vale cliff]

been chillin, killin and cheerin, man

[vale cliff]

nah you just need to deal enough dmg after Rot dude eats Garius. After certain dmg, he spits him right out

[tranquil sparrow]

that's what's so infuriating, the damage is there

Tharivol, Schaltar, Nastjenka all doing 20k+ dps

in admittedly not the best gear

[vale cliff]

they need to deal that dmg RIGHT after he eats garius

[tranquil sparrow]

so it's an ult timing thing?

[vale cliff]

yes

[tranquil sparrow]

rip

[vale cliff]

not difficult to set tho

[trail hinge]

Hello guys, does anyone have prophecy code to spare lol?

[wicked ocean]

@gilded vale think this is s6 cn , but dont see how only 3 or 4 day in.
Mabye Wild is back

[alpine oracle]

Broken CN stuff as usual

[wicked ocean]

Neff did say s6 right ?

[alpine oracle]

Everybody’s gonna see this and go pulling for Chorak and then they’ll have a month to “fix” it

[alpine oracle]

Yes

[wicked ocean]

Has to be the test server 🤔

[alpine oracle]

Right because of vortex 4 does not unlock that early

but the test is usually ahead of the live

[gilded vale]

Ts looks edited

Vortex 4 in the first week is cap

[fathom quiver]

Vortex 4 is at least a week or so in

[gilded vale]

Oh is it test?

[gilded vale]

More than that

[fathom quiver]

Yeah lvl 100 even

No chance 3/4 days in xD

[wicked ocean]

Has to be test server

[gilded vale]

https://tenor.com/view/-gif-4470566

Wild is back huh?

I’m interested to see how they powercreep Felicity lmao

[obsidian elbow]

was like 300 done lets pull a bit more the remainings and got the other one i didnt own

so on 370 i get her

[hallow forum]

could be that new wild hero is insane XD

[wicked ocean]

2 of them... Skarrr and dont knkw the others name

[hallow forum]

dont think chorak (dummy bullet) even with artifact would do much XD thats most likely new guy