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[modest citrus]

I even trust Adolphus to that Nathaniel 🤣

[light thistle]

good stuff nathaniel is very useful

[vagrant aurora]

talking purely about shields, nathaniel is better

[modest citrus]

Lol... The second Epic Dauntless Lizard girl is better at shield than him

[indigo temple]

Yeah thats not true at all

[modest citrus]

You know whom I am talking about

[hallow forum]

so claw kills trough shild easy counter XD

[vagrant aurora]

i didnt say he s the best, he was the first than cam to mind thas a better shielder than Zeff

[tranquil sparrow]

Nathaniel at least does some healing tho, so like, that's not useless

[indigo temple]

Ilhucalt

[modest citrus]

So tell me what there is no counter in game. 😂 He has shield that's all, whether there is counter to kill them or not lol

[indigo temple]

Why do you keep talking like somehow you think because we disagree that means we dont know the game ?

[modest citrus]

Buff Prohibition could counter him too

[vagrant aurora]

good counter vs shield is beldelle too 😄

[indigo temple]

Cheers fella

[modest citrus]

Resurrection at death isn't shield...

[hallow forum]

cos zaffi ulti is "shield" this fix problem kill enemy trough "shield"

[indigo temple]

Invincibility is also not shield

[modest citrus]

So... It works on Felosia too 🤣

[vagrant aurora]

sure it does

[modest citrus]

What's all this argument of everyone drifting out of checkpoint

I sent a screenshot that 😂 Zeffi grants shield too

You all are saying know.

[hallow forum]

it dont work vs zaffi am making joke and point but seams common sense is wasted

[vagrant aurora]

she does, but where restricted

[modest citrus]

Insignificant or not he grants it lol

[vagrant aurora]

and she isnt a good shielder

[modest citrus]

That's how you all said Mithreasea isn't really a healer... But at least he heals even if it's small amounts overtime

[vagrant aurora]

but thats not her main purpose

[indigo temple]

Yes and I came late to the discussion but responded that the players i know, dont use Zeffi because she will give you some shields, its for the Invincibility.
The shield is just a small bonus

[modest citrus]

Doesn't Matter at least a shield

[vagrant aurora]

single target shild though xD

[modest citrus]

I was giving Shielders in Legendary for each Faction

[hallow forum]

nobody cares about shield that hit random times after you die... nobody cares its unreliable and if unreliable you dont care it exist

[vagrant aurora]

i dont know the start of the discussion, but she is a shielder and legendary

[modest citrus]

I said at least we have one in each faction... The shield might be small but can save playing just a bit.

[hallow forum]

but his ulti is not shield and you say it is shield so if its shield that means claws can kill trough it

[modest citrus]

Didn't say they reached Felosia level 🤣

Why attacking me

[indigo temple]

For instance, it would be like talking about Reytah's healing as a major reason to use her. In truth its noice to have but it is often not considered that important because you can just bring a healer anyway. Or the equipment to make her do something

[modest citrus]

This is the start of the talk 😂 and everyone denying

@vagrant aurora

[vagrant aurora]

well, IB arent healers too... but they have healing talent...

[indigo temple]

Gatekeeper's staff will give shields when needed. Players do it all the time.

[modest citrus]

This one I mean

[hallow forum]

so you bin giving supports that can support (keep team alive) ok so anything that have attack penalty cos it reduce enemy dmg = keep team alive is shield attack penalty = shield

revive keep team alive = shield utior shield...

[modest citrus]

You need artifacts for that... 👀 I am talking of ULT that can looks like defying death from insane attacks at least for few seconds.

Without it... It's pure healing for Garius without that Artifact

[indigo temple]

Well oggok for the seconds his immortality is active defys logic. Same as Utior and Zeffi. ANd Mithresia.

Felosia does not.

[hallow forum]

look i found felosia XD

[void fulcrum]

How does the end of season 1 work? Do we fight with 6 teams vs a dragon?

[modest citrus]

You know Zeffi Nexus as ULT has insane defense for penetration to kill them right to the point the damage could be invalidate. Same with Oggok immortality that could prevent death while alive.
Same with Felosia who I am comparing to.

Did I ever say they reached the top bar with Felosia

[hallow forum]

so boss kill trough shield also ignoring felosia shield

[modest citrus]

I was talking about Back support not tanks..

[hallow forum]

o wait its like shield and imortality and invincibility are 3 different mechanics, and revive is 4th different mechanics

[modest citrus]

You know this argument is off point 😂

[hallow forum]

so is comparing felosia and zaffi

[modest citrus]

So you will say because boss can bypass Immortality that Oggok doesn't have Immortality 😂

Or what's this talk about

Doesn't disprove they don't have... You can have anything to penetrate Oggok immortality doesn't mean his ULT would die Immortality lol

[hallow forum]

if boss can bypass imortality i would say it bypass shield cos imortality is shield

[modest citrus]

Felosia shield can be penetrated with Artifact doesn't mean her ULT wouldn't grant shield

[hallow forum]

so felosia shield dont exist

[indigo temple]

https://klipy.com/gifs/you-got-a-point-usher

[modest citrus]

So if Boss has skill that bypass Shield 👀 will you say Felosia doesn't grant shield then

[hallow forum]

he dont bypass shield but with what you say thats conclusion he can bypass shield

[modest citrus]

So what's the context of disapproval when I said Zeffi grants shield too.

Go argue with this... Small or not, he grants shield. That's final

[hallow forum]

that skill basically dont exist

[modest citrus]

Insignificant as it may be as back support he grants it

[indigo temple]

_ That's final_

https://klipy.com/gifs/drake-oo

[modest citrus]

As how doesn't it exist.. screenshot in-game own

[hallow forum]

that skill basically dont exist

i could not care its there it dont work

so she is shielder 🤣 its in game...

[modest citrus]

They made it to him and you said it don't work

🤦‍♂️ oh man... Let it end then. You all can disprove after seeing proofs of his skill

Something that works is what you said doesn't work in game

[hallow forum]

never saw that skill save or shield anything...

[modest citrus]

I am talking of normal skills... Not skill tree 🤦‍♂️

[light thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/derpy-ouroboros-ouroboros-snake-tail-snake-gif-10572710539427286483

[modest citrus]

Do you even see other show proof with skill tree 😂

Is like bringing Oggok Immortality from Skill tree are you kidding me

[hallow forum]

am talking about conclusions that make no sense

[stark bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/side-eye-suspicious-puppet-gif-2729624127692369191

[modest citrus]

Alright screenshot Zeffi Passive skill in game and show me where there is no shield giving

Try to disprove me that

[sleek furnace]

Nice...3 out of 4 comes with gems...

[hallow forum]

he dont have pasive never saw it in fight

dont care that box say strowbery ice ream when inside is pickles

[modest citrus]

It works on mine... If it doesn't work for you doesn't mean it won't work for everyone

Glitch can happen at yours doesn't mean I will have same

[hallow forum]

so i have broken game need to send bug report XD

[modest citrus]

That's on you

If your's has bug report... Mine at the moment doesn't

[hallow forum]

its not bug its useless joke that basically dont exist does nothing usefull

[indigo temple]

Whats amusing is we are talk about a passive that gives shields to a single ally every 10 seconds. Just one.
I might as well use Vinyara because she does that too

[modest citrus]

Thank you 😂... So I don't know why they are disproving

It might be as big as Felosia but it works

[hallow forum]

i saw vinyara save things with shield so she can even be used to help tank stay alive using shield

[light thistle]

Because u compare zeffi with felosia.

[modest citrus]

What's about it being the shield is too small or useless 🪴 am hearing

[light thistle]

That's all.

[hallow forum]

disable zaffi ulty and go ahead use her for her shield from passive lets see it save something XD

[modest citrus]

Doesn't he gives shield 👀... Isn't what I am comparing to

A form of ULT that looks like Felosia shield

If you have an ULT that prevent death from insane attack from opponents is a huge form of another form of Shield

But Zeffi has a little shield giving on passive

[light thistle]

Same argues again, I'm tired with this Loop

Good night all

[indigo temple]

https://klipy.com/gifs/kurmanci-kurdi-22

[modest citrus]

Grishnaar grants a bit of protection that looks like shield for one person 🤣 as passive... We won't say he doesn't give it. Maybe one or all parties. Doesn't matter that he didn't give shield because he gives

Same Vinyara doesn't Grant Shield to everyone which is situational, but we know she does 😂

What's all this talk... Let's end it please

[hallow forum]

wow so supports can support XD

[modest citrus]

Nope they don't... They came to play on field

[hallow forum]

its not shield if its shield claws can kill trough shield

claws cant kill trough protection or imortality

[modest citrus]

Goodnight... I said it's a form of shield and Zeffi gives

[hallow forum]

zafi shield aside from being unreliable (dont exist) is granted to 1 also. But you have problem with vinyara targeting 1

[modest citrus]

Even healing is prevented with Buff Prohibition doesn't mean they don't have it

All this talks is round and round again

No point going over it

[hallow forum]

so stop saying that felosia and zaffi are comparable easy end 🤷‍♂️

[indigo temple]

Look you cant make outrageous comoparisons and expect people to simply not call you out on it . Thats not how that works

[modest citrus]

So you will say Vinyara doesn't give shield too even though it's situational

Nothing is being called out when it says Zeffi grants shield on passive

[hallow forum]

talent also give shield on healers 2nd heal so every healer is shielder XD

[modest citrus]

If you want to deny that show screenshot... I shared mine share yours

This is Skill not skill tree

[indigo temple]

I gve you vinyara knowing that she gives shields to a single unit EXACTLY LIKE Zeffi.

Very different from what Felosia does. But you are doubling down so i understand

[modest citrus]

She gives to 2 units at times

But it's situational when she does

It's random

[hallow forum]

no one care shield is too small to do any difference also that shield from talent is more reliable than zaffi shield (when something is unreliable it dont exist you ignore its existence)

[modest citrus]

But doesn't change that she doesn't give it

[hallow forum]

so vinyara is like felosia XD

[indigo temple]

Noone said she doesnt. People disputed your Zeffi comparable to Felosia comment.
That is way off and hence why people spoke up.

[modest citrus]

He is comparable to her but has buff difference to her

[hallow forum]

so vinyara is comparable to felosia

so every healer is comparable to felosia

[modest citrus]

I said and I will repeat.. they give a form of shield be it small or big, but Felosia own is bigger and stronger and universal doesn't change fact that they do or their main ULT has another form of shield

[indigo temple]

Wtf was that 😂

🤣

[modest citrus]

So if I say Adolphus grants shield would you disprove...

But he can't grant more bigger effective shield like Felosia constantly doesn't change that he gives 🤣

[indigo temple]

Nah.

[hallow forum]

you mean spoon fork copied image from talent before but copy didnt work right so old copy was rememmbered wanted at some point to make zafi shield joke

[modest citrus]

So case close

[indigo temple]

Yeah you deleted it so quickly, i didnt get to see it properly 😂

[hallow forum]

it dont say shield here

[modest citrus]

Show passive

[hallow forum]

adolphus i even compared sometimes to budget version of felosia... if you said he is like felosia would say ok yes he is more of tank but does same role

if you say zaffi is same as felosia then you get this talk you just got...

[indigo temple]

https://klipy.com/gifs/this-7

[hallow forum]

so vinyara is same like felosia

and compared to zaffi vinyara can actually shield and keep 1 person alive zaffi cant (meaning no one cares what his passive does it dont exist)

he is also same as felosia ? 🤣

[modest citrus]

😂 shield and ULT that does same thing as Emergency shield what's the difference

Something doing close to it...

I said share Zeffi Passive you said it's useless and don't show

Who are trying to deceive.. whether it's small or useless, Zeffi grants shield too.

Let's end it all here... Good night

[indigo temple]

https://klipy.com/gifs/awesome-ok

[hallow forum]

you here trolling everyone saying nonsense how zaffi is same as felosia

am not devicing if you check up i drop his passive and still say it dont exist zaffi dont have passive its useless does nothing

[indigo temple]

Bring on the changes

[hallow forum]

so vinyara is more like felosia than zaff is

[modest citrus]

Alright let me straight 🤣 the shield up for you.

1. Constant Shield (Felosia)
2. Conditional Shield (Vinyara)
3. Look-alike Shield Format (Oggok/Zeffi)
4. Conditional Shield (Ihuicatl)

All is a form of shield... Doesn't disapprove. No matter how you judge it, I wasn't wrong

[hallow forum]

nothing about vinyara shield is conditional

if you check up i drop SS

[modest citrus]

It's conditional because it's random to grant shield to someone either close or lowest in health

[hallow forum]

oggok dont do shield any way unless you use talent or staff

[modest citrus]

Oggok look alike format of shield is immortality

[hallow forum]

zafi shield is unrelaible hits when you dont need it so it dont exist disable his ulty and you realize vinyara will keep you alive zaffi wont

[modest citrus]

You just said he grants shield 🤣 and you are disapproving since that he doesn't

[earnest mantle]

Do you guys think that I can build a decent team out of this? I am in season 2 still.

[hallow forum]

and we are back to comparing imortality to shield ok this ignore shields so it kill trough imortality

lets spin in circles apparently you want this to stop

[modest citrus]

Shield through Enlightenment.... It's there you didn't underline it

[modest citrus]

Everyone format of shield is different lol

[hallow forum]

could work dont expect too much but something like this green being supports to keep team alive

[modest citrus]

Grishnaar format of shield is protection for one person but I5 for 2 people

[modest citrus]

Those are healers... Never do they have skills that looks like a look alike of a shield

[hallow forum]

dont care tough what it give it care that its useless triggers when buff is gone on some target (meaning it dont happen when you need it so does nothing)

[modest citrus]

So you will say Ihuicatl shield is useless 🤣 even though it's conditional

[earnest mantle]

@hallow forum yeah it's just to have something, tyvm. I've got ice blast, frost and summoner up and running. Just poison and lightning are missing. Thanks again, appreciate the help

[hallow forum]

pretty sure this ignore every format of shield but dont affect things that are not shield... Its like zaffi ulti is not shield XD

[modest citrus]

Bro do you understand English at all

I said there are different format of shields

Conditional/Constant/Look alike format of shield(Emergency Shield)

[hallow forum]

no you just troll ppl saying zaffi and oggok ulti is shield

[modest citrus]

What's their you are disapproving

Some shield like Vinyara own is random to allies

Grishnaar shield is protection form to one ally

Zeffi from of shield at his ULT is preventing straight of death from opponents ULT.. eg Grave of Curse

[hallow forum]

clavs do dmg trough shield if something is shield dont care what format it is it do dmg trough shield... if zaffi ulti is shield this kill trough it

[modest citrus]

Did I say their shield is the constant one like Felosia

Even Catherine shield comes too a bit from Overhealing

[hallow forum]

felosia shield is also not constant

[modest citrus]

Garius shield wouldn't come too without Overhealing

[hallow forum]

it have cd

[modest citrus]

Which is conditional not constant shield format

Bro, go and sleep lol

[hallow forum]

zaffi shield would also not come without buffs expiring or being removed if no buffs no shield

[earnest mantle]

@hallow forum sorry, jumping into the middle of the argument 😂 poison is enlightenment and accuracy on most characters right?

[hallow forum]

no acturaccy usually goes on enablers and elightment and attack on dps... you dont want to criple or reduce stats to build accuracy

[earnest mantle]

Okay thanks. I really appreciate it.

[modest citrus]

Damage mitigation/Immortality/Nexus Ring is another form of shield 🤣 bro. Doesn't have say the word shield like Felosia own which is higher

[hallow forum]

durago need high accuracy, crit chance and haste. Vicana usually want high attack or enlightment but can have some accuracy. Corrin dont really need accuracy just lots of haste. Lothair need high enlightment and attack crit chance and crit dmg cant hurt but if they dont make you drop enlightment and attack

[modest citrus]

Wouldn't you say Grishnaar is shielding someone like Nastjenka, but do you see white substance shield around it like Felosia 😂 nope because it serves like another format of shield too

[indigo temple]

You are redefining terms at will 😂 . Its impressive honestl

[modest citrus]

Doesn't have to use Artifact to counter

[modest citrus]

I said a form of shield which is comparable 😂. Didn't disprove that they can shield constantly as the original shielder which is Felosia

Even Khrysos/Elecebree owns are conditional

Khrysos happens from ULT, Elecebree to someone random...

[hallow forum]

shield is shield, what you talk about is being support keeping team alive and if you generalize like that then attack penalty is shield also so is protection effect and so is revive that utior give and so is deffense buff

[modest citrus]

Grishnaar shield form is Damage Mitigation

[indigo temple]

No actually.
You said "Zeffi is comparable to Felosia"

What you are saying now is as a result of you doubling down and needing to be right 😂

[hallow forum]

reason why i said wow supports are supporting imagine that XD

[modest citrus]

Anything that prevent insane damage to kill you for a minute 🤣 is a form of shield

I said nothing wrong... You all didn't read my words correctly

[indigo temple]

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-ishowspeed-yeah-right-ishowspeed-yeah-ishowspeed-right-ishowspeed-stream-gif-2870397197282141259

[hallow forum]

and basically ever support have shield if you start generalizing like that just cos something help team stay alive (support) is shield

[modest citrus]

Yes... Comparable but big difference Felosia has over him.

Doesn't Ihuicatl grants shield same with Vinyara as comparable.... Not direct livelihood of constant shield like Felosia

[hallow forum]

you can get 1 shot trough felosia shield cant get 1 shot trough imortality and invincibility unless skill have effect that ignore those

[modest citrus]

They have some similarities to her doesn't mean they will ever be like Felosia big time in her shielding

It's like me saying they have some similarities but huge difference...

The huge difference is Felosia being the biggest fan of them all in shield constantly

[modest citrus]

From passive to ULT, at teams the one shot most times can be prevented to be one shortted

[hallow forum]

accent on "doubling down and needing to be right"

[modest citrus]

No one doesn't die even immortality can die too... Doesn't change it's like another format of shielding for few seconds or minutes

[indigo temple]

They have similarities vs They are comparable are widely different statements. Again you have continued to evolve what you said to try and make it more impactful.
Its amusing but i ultimately disagree. There is no such thing.

[hallow forum]

early season you do heretical ruins... You use felosia shield boom boss 1 shot you
early season you do heretical ruins... You use zaffu ulti boss dont 1 shot you

doing vortex after 100 stacks on boss use attack that ignore imortality... zaffi ulti boss 1 shot. Felosia ulti boss dont 1 shot just do dmg to shield

[indigo temple]

It would be like suggesting Tiamat is comparable to Oggok because she also does some conditional healing.
You'd have to leap really far to even make that comparison

[worn dune]

Hey guys, relatively new players here, in middle of season 1 and wondering if I should hold summons considering the season merge that is coming early April ?

[hallow forum]

you use claws artifact on dps, felosia ulti you kill enemy ignoring shield
You use claws on dps zaffi ulty you cant kill trough imortality... its not shield

what part of this is not logical ?

[indigo temple]

Did you do any summons? Who did you get? How much do you have saved?
How comfortable are you clearing content?

[terse rapids]

Im in s1 which just started , does it gonna end early and enter new season on April 7 ? Thx

[indigo temple]

Very likely. I would say its a certainty at this point
Season is 64 days usually, you will be half way in by the time we get to 7th of April. So yeah

[hallow forum]

what part of this have to be dumbed downs keeping team alive (supporting ) dont mean shield you could use shield you could use other mechanics like heal, protection, dmg recution, revive, invisibility, imortality... if you call imortality shield call healing shield also call attack penalty also shield

[modest citrus]

Yes.... That's comparation to functionality purpose. A look alike format

[terse rapids]

Does it gonna play s1 again or new season after April 7 ?

[worn dune]

Clearing everything in pve to 19 and probably can tweak to 20 without much efforts

[modest citrus]

Well you will say the healer in Necrosis is now Tiamat... Be it significant she does it. She isn't a main Healer for real but she does healing look alike situational

[hallow forum]

yes and attack penalty also prevent boss from 1 shoting you and it keep team alive so attack penalty is shield

[worn dune]

50m + in vortex cuz I didn’t element boost gear yet

[indigo temple]

we dont have a clue what the season name is. But i am in S4 right now and it seems unlikely they will take everyone back so it will be you coming forwards with some catchup mechanics, or so ive heard

[terse rapids]

Thx

[worn dune]

That’s about the roster I currently have and am on the last day for select summon of any exclusive

[modest citrus]

Attack penalty brings down defense.....

A shield is a form of defense. Anything that you have as Arsenal in ULT that has a look alike to give insane defense like Felosia is known as shielding it. 😂

Attack Penalty works on everyone and can destroy any opponents

[hallow forum]

we still dont fully know how they will implement it but there will be some compensation for early ending of season. Will they put you in some special story like part to keep to need to clear first to join last season or what we will see but they said compensation for early ending of season...

[modest citrus]

They aren't full time shielding, but they have an Arsenal that has a form of shielding opponents from insane damage

[indigo temple]

I think you should aim at completing teams.
If you have Lelwanis bolster the team
Maybe try for Dauntless as well.

It mostly depends on what you have. Saving is also an option. I would lean into that but i dont know what catchup mechanics there will be.

So honestly its difficult to say. I would save and have more dice for whats coming. It might give you some luck.

[indigo temple]

Cheers

[modest citrus]

The best defense can be a shield/Damage mitigation/Immortality/Nexus and all.

What's the purpose of a shield isn't the to prevent insane damage on you from dieing too quick

[worn dune]

Got 300+ dice saved currently

[modest citrus]

Alright go check up on the new comers

[indigo temple]

Which of the Exclusives do you have from each element?

[hallow forum]

basically what you doing now is what @indigo temple said "doubling down and needing to be right". Basically calling support = shielding... So why you call it shild why not supporting they already have that word in game

[terse rapids]

They were saying about some celebration server in faq which starts from s1 , but didn't say anything about where rest of us gonna start . Their Faq raises more questions than giving clarity fr

[worn dune]

But as seasons go it tends to deliver more advanced and « op » heroes so I am thinking it might be a good idea to hold

[worn dune]

Hvitar / lewanis / Flora

And nastijenka

So 4/6

[indigo temple]

And their artifacts?

[hallow forum]

some thing you have to wait and see... but they did split servers in 2 categories in description one that is for returning players that didnt play in some time and other is for rest of us... but how that all end up working in end we can only wait and see

[worn dune]

Didn’t push for them

Considering I would whale that bad early on

[indigo temple]

THey are kinda important.

[worn dune]

And thought of ice blast as the team i would aim in S2

But plan kind of changed

[hallow forum]

shield is one of mechanics supports use to keep team alive. If you compare 2 different mechanics that are desinged to try to keep team alive and call them both shield then why not all why not call supports shielders rename them...

[indigo temple]

What's the purpose of a shield isn't the to prevent insane damage on you from dieing too quick

It is entirely possible you have never completed Grave of Curse

Or Ancient Battlefield.

[worn dune]

And then I’d only get 1 off them for the cost of a possible catch up or multiple heroes in merging

[modest citrus]

So what's the purpose of a shield... It serves as protection from insane damage.

And the others I called has insane protection from damage like Immortality/Nexus/Damage mitigation.

They have a form that does a comparable thing like shielding opponents from dieing also.

I said Felosia is different because she is purely a Shielder, the others are having something that looks like a format of shield.

[worn dune]

Mixed feelings between current progression and future one, as I am also waiting for my most probable main game to be releasing soon

[indigo temple]

Well this is where you are now. Flora was okay as a choice in S1, problem is they quickly fall off and it becomes difficult to justify getting her for a new player.

[hallow forum]

you should aim for it but they will join servers and make 1 season for all... so that will end up S5 or S6 depending on what they do actually. Also some of artifact make huge difference making hero actually strong others dont do much... Lelwanis artifact is must probably one of best in game... up to 70% deffense ignored and more other stuff

[modest citrus]

Bro... Zeffi is used there to prevent one-shot which is a format of shield on allies. Doesn't have to have Felosia version of shield because we say it's like it.

That it looks like it doesn't mean it's totally it

[indigo temple]

So you are going to have to choose: Lelwanis artifact, Nasty-yenka. or Flora (consider that they stop being relevant in S1).

[worn dune]

But is Lelwanis still « meta » as of S6

[worn dune]

So pick it now or save dices for a relevant start in a month

[modest citrus]

Even Alcohol and Water is comparable because they have a look that's watery... Doesn't mean Alcohol can overcome Water it's being the original Water.

[indigo temple]

Belldelle, Shinna, Zhorak
Vinya, Feenja.

Challenge 6.

As it happens, Zeffi isnt the only support that can do things and invincibity isnt the only way to complete dungeons.

[hallow forum]

so now you want to call it protection not shield any more? Problem is you called something shield when there is shield effect and its not same problem is do to false conslusion like this you ended up comparing felosia and zaffi as if they do same thing... then doubled down on insisting to be right and spining in circles

[modest citrus]

Did I disprove others can't

I said they have something comparable which is like another format of shield... Not entirely like a true shielder like Felosia/Adolphus does

[indigo temple]

My point is that you are wrong about saying shields isnt to prevent insane damage and i gave an example everyone understands.

[hallow forum]

you didnt disprove anything you just ignore all and insist on being right when you are wrong

[indigo temple]

You then told me about Zeffi, to which i answered: "There are other ways"

[modest citrus]

You know a lot use Felosia and it doesn't prevent dieing quicker at times doesn't mean they wouldn't die.

[hallow forum]

if something is shield claws ignore shield so they kill trough shield if its not shield then they dont

[modest citrus]

Even that small difference can change an opponent who will lose to win

[indigo temple]

Skill issue more likely

[modest citrus]

Skill issue in PVP that they can finish anyone

[indigo temple]

Whethere its not understanding the dungeon boss, or understanding team composition or gearing.
Either way

[modest citrus]

Anyone dies from bosses and opponents doesn't mean skill issues

[hallow forum]

basically supports have mechanics that is designed to protect team in 1 or other way for example if you call zaffi ulty shiled (pretecting team) then why not calling vinyara reducing enemy energy by 100% shield ?

you cant cos it makes no sense its just insisting on being right and hoping others give up so you end up thinking you are right

[modest citrus]

Gearing can be an issue... Doesn't change fact they have different system that has a look alike of a shield doesn't really have to be called shield but can also be called that.

So would you say if I place Zeffi and Nastjenka and she used her ULT, isn't that a form of shield on them both

[hallow forum]

shield is one of mechanics supports use to protect team its not same as imortality or invincibility

[modest citrus]

Same with Felosia with Hvitar, her ULT provides a layer of protection with her shield

[hallow forum]

dont spin in circles

[indigo temple]

So going forward, please stop telling people Zeffi is comparable to Felosia. Its just not true.

[modest citrus]

Nothing about spinning

Comparable is what I said... Didn't say totally Similarities to it

[modest citrus]

So you will say Immortality and Invisibility doesn't protect teams

[indigo temple]

tough one. in 30 days, you could raise a decent amount of wrymarrow.
So i can only suggest you think carefully. But holding probably wont be a bad idea.

[modest citrus]

Even Eurion damage protection on Allies is another form of shield itself

[indigo temple]

Or at least "I dont think it would be a bad idea to save" and wait to see what is to come

[modest citrus]

Every format of shield in DragonHeir is different... Doesn't have to be the original shield like Felosia format we all know

[worn dune]

Yeah, that was the thought process thanks for sharing

[hallow forum]

also false statement XD

[worn dune]

Hurting current progression for sure, but at the I would assume more benefit from new system to come

[modest citrus]

So you will say even without Immortality and Felosia you haven't died before 🤣

Seems like you want to lie that doesn't happen in Vortex and PVP to you... Don't even try to lie around it

[hallow forum]

am saying it is not shield i have no problem calling it supporting team if you call it supporting ream or if you said zaff and felosia are supports we would not be spining in circles but you compared them

[worn dune]

Still top 10ish of my server with that so I will wait for more depth on what’s to come and will have a early season 2 access before it switches I think

[hallow forum]

felosia reduces dmg you take and counters controll. Zaffi prevents 1 shots and removes enemy buffs. Not same in any way but you insist they are

[modest citrus]

Gear issue is issue on it's own... Something that looks like an healing heals too. Be it itself and everyone else.

You can heal yourself as protection but can't be fully a healer but heals

[indigo temple]

Yeah the thing is we still are in the dark so its very difficult to give you any definitive advice on this. Dont want to steer you wrong.

[modest citrus]

Just like Garius vs Catherine.... Garius is a tank but heals, Catherine is a true healer

Doesn't change fact that he heals... That's another example

[indigo temple]

#📢┆game-announcements message But maybe you can glean a few things from their announcement

[hallow forum]

died even with imortality and felosia also had fights where i dont use any of that and dont die. False statement is false statement

[modest citrus]

Shield and healers have different format of things

[modest citrus]

And some other fights Felosia also dies

Doesn't change fact that anyone wouldn't die

[hallow forum]

no let me use claws to counter healing cos its shield XD

[hallow forum]

felosia dont prevent 1 shots she reduce dmg you take, oggok and zaffi prevent 1 shots.

[modest citrus]

You know Necrosis Tank the epic one with scythe heals through his two summons constantly, but can't be called a dedicated healer but at least heals himself same as Berengar

[hallow forum]

different mechanics its not shield

[modest citrus]

That have a format that looks like healing... But I will never say they are officially healers but they have a healing format in them

[indigo temple]

Would the claw work on that Shadow necrosis girl in arena? 🤔

[modest citrus]

Same with Damage mitigation shield against insane damage on squishy one ally...

And Zeffi Nexus serves as another format of shield protection from insane attack

[hallow forum]

problem here is and we are spining in circles calling 2 different things same whene they are not same in any way aside from being support skills

[modest citrus]

They aren't officially Shielders they just have a prospect of one

[worn dune]

Q2 I don’t get the idea of it being a new server instead of a new season

The wish summon system is a right idea moving forward with a lot of dices but non guaranteed exclusive sounds brutal

[indigo temple]

No clue aboue the makeup of the season vs server in whats coming. We will have to wait

[hallow forum]

so if you go and say something ridiculous then well lets go ridiculous lets call every support mechanics shield and then cos of false conclusion lets wonder if claws kill grough something cos its shield

[modest citrus]

Did I say they are totally shielder.. I said Felosia has a big difference to them, doesn't mean those I called doesn't have a way to do like Felosia Shielding allies. Maybe Immortality to Damage Mitigation

[indigo temple]

If we are being honest, most people wouldn't term a unit that gives a single ally shields, "a shielder". becasue its not really worth much unless its specific situations.

[hallow forum]

so she is being support... vinyara is supporting team (keeping them alive) trough using energy reduction. Enemy cant use big attacks cos 0 energy. So if imortality is shield so is energy reduction

[modest citrus]

You know you yourself have once said an hero can heal and not be a dedicated healer.

Would you disprove that Berengar heals... No, he heals through attack or reverse opponents healing to himself. That's his own form of healing..

Is he a dedicated healer? The answer is No. But he does some healing, doesn't disprove that he doesn't heal

[hallow forum]

for example in CC S4 if you fight bionphry if you use felosia or zaffi or oggok you will eventually die. If you use vinyara boss dont evne do dmg....

[modest citrus]

Even if she doesn't ULT... I meant Vinyara, she can place shield on allies with lowest health.

[hallow forum]

so vinyara shield (energy reduction) is stronger 🤣 😂

[modest citrus]

Some mechanics can nullify it.... But under normal circumstances they shouldn't you know right.

Like Vortex ignoring Immortality

[hallow forum]

and who is missing point now ?

thats 3rd time you missed point

but you said we missing point before

[modest citrus]

I missed nothing

I said they all have a form of shield format

[hallow forum]

if you didnt miss point we would be not still taking about this

[hallow forum]

energy reduction is shield also ?

[modest citrus]

So will you say Damage Mitigation isn't like shielding allies...

Will you say Zeffi Nexus ULT isn't like shielding them from insane damage on them.

They are comparable to be called a shield but they aren't dedicated Shielders lol

[indigo temple]

If i was new and didnt know the difference between shields and invincibility, then sure

[modest citrus]

Mithreasea heals but she isn't truly a dedicated healers

[indigo temple]

But i do know the difference

[modest citrus]

Once we need dedicated Shielders... We call Felosia/Adolphus

[modest citrus]

So what's Comparable Functionality... Answer this

[indigo temple]

Felosia is comparable to Garius/Aldiah.Nathaniel

[hallow forum]

am not talking about counters to some mechanics i am talking about cant call imortality shield... if you do then you have to call attack penalty also and energy reduction shild by same logic

[modest citrus]

Garius isn't even a shielder

[indigo temple]

Zeffi is comparable to Oggok, Mithresia, Utior

[modest citrus]

He is conditional... Meaning without the Artifacts and health at full bar shield wouldn't converted to

[hallow forum]

if its shield it claws can kill trough it

meaning its not shield

[modest citrus]

So what do you think the Immortality does... Isn't that shielding away from insane damage that at low health should have killed you but you could endure a little as saving grace

[modest citrus]

I said doesn't have to be... They aren't dedicated Shielders they just have a comparable thing to it as a format. Doesn't have to be a true shielder

[hallow forum]

its one of mecanics supports use for specific situation preventing 1 shots

[modest citrus]

We have True Shielders and Untrue ones... Same with Healers dedicated and non version of them

Some shield their self like Eurion... He shield but isn't a dedicated healer to everyone like Felosia

[hallow forum]

its not shield its imortality, its invincibility... its revive...

[modest citrus]

Will you say Eurion doesn't procure shield

[hallow forum]

if imorality is shiled claws counter it.

he make shield only on him self

[modest citrus]

So when an opponent attack someone in Immortality and you don't die. What will you say.

Well I got shielded from dieing way quickly because of Oggok

Same with Zeffi and Grishnaar too

[modest citrus]

I said lookalike version of shield not dedicated Shielders

[indigo temple]

It is impressive that you are still trying to sell this, truly 😂

[hallow forum]

see this good example he shield him self but use other mechanics to try to keep team alive (aka supporting)

[modest citrus]

And Zeffi isn't even an healer... So yours is boiled out. Oggok and Mithreasea heals a little from their ULT

[hallow forum]

if he give shield on all you would see white thing over their HP bar but no you see shield only on him

[modest citrus]

You see what I say... Shield himself. He has a shield format as protection from insane damage but isn't a true shielder like Felosia.

If we call out True Shielder no one will call Eurion.

But if we say does he shield do, he answer is Yes.

[modest citrus]

A format of shield doesn't have to be a true shielder format

[hallow forum]

well zaffi is not shielder. Dissable her ultu and see how much he can keep you alive... And ulti is not shieleld, pasive is shield but its useless basically as if it dont do anything.

[modest citrus]

Ally Protection is another form of shield but isn't like Felosia true shield format

[modest citrus]

You can't diable a skill dedicated for her 😂

[hallow forum]

you can dissable oggok ulti and he will still keep team alive, dissable felosia ulti and she will still keep team alive

[modest citrus]

Is like saying disable Oggok Immortality... 🤣 Because that's Oggok ULT

It's part of him

[hallow forum]

dissable eurion ulty and he still could keep team alive with battle skill appying attack penalty

[modest citrus]

Zeffi does a little shield to lowest person with health... Just one ally through Enlightenment

[hallow forum]

go ahead dissable oggok ulti she still heals team and if you put staff even add shield and remove debuffs and put attack penalty on boss

[modest citrus]

By that Oggok wouldn't have another form to protect an ally as a form of shield Felosia does then.

[hallow forum]

how about zaffi? zaffi when you use battle skill remove enemy buffs (ups enemy have no buffs) ok you get shield hmm never XD

[modest citrus]

But once you use everyone ULT, then Oggok will use Immortality just not the see his Allies Dies too

[hallow forum]

o enemy have buffs ok maybe you get shield at random time after boss kill you cos random is amazing

[modest citrus]

Shield from Enlightenment from Batter skill... You showed me from your screenshot too

10% shield

[hallow forum]

what does zaffi do again ? no one cares she have passive ppl use her for her ulti pasive is joke ignore it

[modest citrus]

No matter how minimal it gives a tiny... But can't be called a dedicated Shielder

[modest citrus]

Zeffi Nexus serves as shield from more quicker death

[hallow forum]

did you just said zaffi battle skill is shielding ?

[modest citrus]

Damage Mitigation from Grishnaar prevents squishy Nastjenka from dieing too quicker

[modest citrus]

Read this again

[hallow forum]

if its shield counter it with claws damn thos claws counter everthing

how about you read it again

[modest citrus]

Shield countered with Claw are for Dedicated Shielders....

Others has a format of shield which is like a defense from dieing too quick.

Resurrection isn't shielding at all because you die instantly and resurrection. Isn't a sure assurance

[hallow forum]

no this is insisting to be right like we already said... its not shield its different effect

[modest citrus]

Some heroes at Inspiration 5 can resist the claw Artifact too

At I0, Claw does work

[bold iris]

I have not seen inspiration 5 counter claw

[modest citrus]

Just like Some heroes will Resist Elecebree control

[bold iris]

On anything lol

[indigo temple]

https://klipy.com/gifs/cat-stare-51

[hallow forum]

so claws also counter elcebre controll ?

good to know XD

[bold iris]

Claw just bypasses shield regardless if it main shielder or not. It just really good

[hallow forum]

damn how usefull claws are best artifact in game 🤣 😂

[bold iris]

Was making sure I read that correctly. Lmao

[river imp]

Will elecibre get a own banner like grishna?

[hallow forum]

zaffi and oggok ulti is apprarntly shield according to some ppl here so if shield counter it with claws easy fix

[indigo temple]

Maybe one day

[river imp]

Rip🙏🏽 i am in season one and there are like 10-15 people with her and the top 5 leader board in any arena are blocking the spots with her… there is chance that i beat them sadly

[bold iris]

Yikes. Shield and invincibility is 2 very different effect

[river imp]

Sitting on place 6 for ages now

[bold iris]

What season 1 are you playing huh what server number is this?

[indigo temple]

But invincibility is just another form of shield

[river imp]

135

[hallow forum]

no bro let him explain to you that its shield... we are spinning in circles all night how its shield

[indigo temple]

Why arent you sleeping? Why are you here causing problems 😂 ?

[modest citrus]

You know Elecebree grants shield too 👀. So why shouldn't it work

[bold iris]

My goodness we barely have 3 people with elecebre

[hallow forum]

on shield yes but does it work vs charm ?

thats again you missed point XD

[river imp]

Whats your server number?

[indigo temple]

Are you also in season 1?

[bold iris]

122

[bold iris]

Ye our season is ending

[river imp]

Damn bro… my server got like 10 whales at least

[modest citrus]

You know Grishnaar counters Elecebree skills too. Same with Vinyara

Another format of shielding doesn't have to be a Dedicated Shielder own

[indigo temple]

Would you say shields are the same as immortality, Ressurection and Invincibility? @bold iris

[hallow forum]

still didnt finish stuff in game XD

[river imp]

And some just got lucky pulling her i guess since they not visible in top 10 on leaderboard

[modest citrus]

Berengar format of healing is reverse healing for himself.....

Eurion form os shielding allies is through Ally Protection

[hallow forum]

yes but all in game is shield so claws counter everything

[modest citrus]

I didn't say they are true dedicated Shielder

[modest citrus]

That's for dedicated Shielders 😂 bro

Did I disprove the artifacts doesn't work on them

[river imp]

How many days you got left?

[modest citrus]

I am saying others format of shielding their allies in different ways 🤣

Like Ally Protection/Nexus/Immortality

[hallow forum]

grishanr use battle skill to protect team you counter dmg reduction he apply with using claws cos his protection is shield... ofc he have actuall shield with skill but you counter skill entirely cos its shield and shield and shield so you just claw it

[modest citrus]

Didn't say they are true Shielders..

[bold iris]

No not for me

[indigo temple]

Noone says "true shielders " tho

[modest citrus]

His protection is a like a format of shield

[hallow forum]

thats fancy accrobatics to say i am not wrong when bing wrong

[indigo temple]

Thats just not a thing around here

[bold iris]

Today last day for final copper dragon

[indigo temple]

Decent placement?

[bold iris]

I'm a bit of a whale so rank 1 on all content

[river imp]

Do you have any banners left rn? Like premium select banner? Or are they all gone already

[modest citrus]

Mine i specified Felosia has a big difference from the start of my words.

I even said it somewhere like Constant Shielder(Felosia), Conditional Shielder(Grishnaar/Oggok/Zeffi)

[bold iris]

All gone

[hallow forum]

if imortality is same as shield then so is attack penalty and so is energy reduction so everything is shield and you counter everything with claws

[river imp]

Crazyyyy😭 well i paid like 300 euros till now and most likely not going for more. But i am sitting everywhere top 10

[modest citrus]

Their form of protection is another from of shielding allies... Didn't say they are true shielder

[hallow forum]

most op artifact 🤣 😂

[river imp]

How many days did they past?

[modest citrus]

Will you call Eurion a true shielder because 😂 he applies shield to himself

He does do shield but isn't a true Shielder

Doesn't disprove my word

[bold iris]

6-7 days

[river imp]

Alr thanks

[indigo temple]

Everytime i launch Dragonstride on my phone, i forget that i chose japanese voices 😂

[modest citrus]

Attack skills is different from something they do to protect themselves or allies

Zeffi Nexus isn't like attacking

[hallow forum]

but he have real shield and have some other effect that protect team XD

[modest citrus]

Immortality isn't like attack... They are all for protection as defense for allies

[hallow forum]

so yeah he have true shield just use it on him self

[modest citrus]

What does shield does if not to protect 👀

[hallow forum]

also not sure why they said protection, deffense and shield just do shield and shield and shield problem solved everything is shield XD

[modest citrus]

You use Felosia shield to protect allies from insane damage that normally should have killed them without the shield as another extra layer of protection

[hallow forum]

protection (effect) dont get countered with claws shield does

protection effect does get countered by remove buffs or buff prohibition shield dont

[modest citrus]

Okay will ask again... Do Eurion use shield?

You can say he uses a little on himself.

But I know for sure you won't call Eurion a dedicated Shielder

[bold iris]

I think our server will merge in April

[hallow forum]

basically you doing fancy accroptatics to say you are not wrong

[modest citrus]

You know I never said they are the same thing but has something of another format that looks same

Just like Eurion main ULT is protection of allies but he uses shield on himself...

Oggok heals but his main Usefulness is his Immortality

That have something they do as secondary that looks like shielding allies... But I won't officially call them a dedicated Shielder. Even though others have format of protection that can serve like a 🛡️ shield

[hallow forum]

oggok have more than 1 thing. Heal, remove debuffs, attack penalty and all this is without even using ulti.

[modest citrus]

Most main hero skill is from their ULT... I didn't say they don't do other things

They have what they are dedicated for

Mithreasea mainly for Resurrection but she heals too

[hallow forum]

Zaffi without ulti just have remove enemy buffs and maybe just maybe drop pasive shield on someone at wrong time when you dont care about shield making it useless like its not there

[modest citrus]

Felosia is mostly for Huge shield but she does Control Immunity too

[hallow forum]

for zaffi to apply shield you need buffs to explire, get removed... what if no buffs ? no shield no anything just some low dmg

[modest citrus]

Some things can be removed too.. if done too early can take away their protection from your allies

[indigo temple]

https://klipy.com/gifs/fuck-this-shit-im-out-1

[hallow forum]

felosia have dmg reduction with ulti 30% or something. Felosia passive when team take dmg she apply shield to reduce it.. so she have lots of things

reason why comparing her to zaffi is problem they work tottaly in different way nothing to compare aside from both being supports

[bold iris]

This is non ending lol

[modest citrus]

I said the main thing for her ULT is bigger shield.... Others are extras on her abilities

[hallow forum]

yeah thats going to counter for some effect. But if 2 effects are same then so is counter to them. Where instead they are different effects and have 2 different counters

[modest citrus]

That's not saying she doesn't do it... We know what is their main ULT

[indigo temple]

This is why im seeing myself out 😂

[hallow forum]

i should probably also run elden ring and ignore discord XD

Nioh 3 is unplayable on 8GB v-ram XD

[earnest mantle]

@hallow forum hey that is a very fun team, thanks. I didn't realize that Garrett could do that much damage.

Talking about that poison team that you advised me to build.

[hallow forum]

You mean lothair ?

Yeah lothair can do pretty high dmg

[earnest mantle]

Wait lemme check. Don't know the names very well and I don't have the right artifacts so ya know

[earnest mantle]

The first one

[hallow forum]

basically his battle skill trigers this 1 time his ulty trigger it 3 times or 4 times if his unique talent

[earnest mantle]

Yeah that one.

[hallow forum]

with his artifact think this can get triggered up to 8 times if really lucky

he is pretty good actually but there are ofc stronger stuff that are meta

[earnest mantle]

Yeah I don't have that one. Went all out on ice blast. But continental and end game is coming around. So I am working on the other teams. Still gotta do lightning and burning

Anyway, thanks again.

[hallow forum]

burning is pretty crazy if you have all things 😅

Ice blast dont evne need to say they are one of top things

[earnest mantle]

That's what I've got.

Yeah ice blast is insane 😂

[hallow forum]

well kars and durem are enough for burn to do solid but they did add more in S4 making team really strong

paixton making burn team have think it was 15% more attack and ignroe 20% deffense also increase ignite applied by 10%

synarell for keeping them alive and aschetius as dps tank

but in S3 karf, durem and baegs are enough to put some nice score

[earnest mantle]

Yeah I saw the scratch video. Pretty nuts. I took a long hiatus from the game. Ended up in season 1 😂 well season 2 now. Screwed up my summons in season 1, now I am missing that ice girl that applies shield. Can't remember her name. Now that's a pita in temporal vortex

[hallow forum]

felosia

[earnest mantle]

Yeah that one. Oh man, gotta use that Ice tank that applies shields. Best I got for now

[hallow forum]

well they will join servers on april 7 so who knows what they did they will have probably to think of some way to make weak players catchup with old players

maybe you get enough stuff you missed

aplhanarsi is not too bad ofc not as strong as felosia but can do job

[earnest mantle]

Fingers crossed. Gotta farm some more to get that burn team up and running.

[bold iris]

I hope the new radiance aura hero look good and strong heh

[hallow forum]

someone drop some image from i guess china with new aura let me scroll up trough all that mess XD

[hallow forum]

#🐲┆dragonheir-chat message

[bold iris]

700m nearly for v1 is insane

The new aura exclusive isn't here yet right?

[hallow forum]

yeah thats just aura we knew they will add for some time... but new one is still just annauncement

any way i like seeing teams performing dont care if crazy but as long as they do good enough am fine... so nice seeing that it seams aura got good

[bold iris]

yeah more diversity and fun thign to test and try out is all I care about. don't want to Rook for 10 seasons

[terse estuary]

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[hallow forum]

nothing special did 32 place or something like that. Had one weird fight where one of top 2 ppl on server losed vs me and he had i5 guin... made no sense at all. But well game is weird like that RNG and nonsense

didnt bet on stuff 🙁

[novel bear]

Main account was defeated last round of swiss by eventual winner. Main has had lousy rng for blade. Bad selections of heroes, gear, worst possible opponents. Can't seem to break the cycle. Alt account, on the other hand, is doing decent. Was runner-up this round.

[terse rapids]

Any suggestions to clear this stage? Thx

[novel bear]

If you don't have enough burst power to get them down fast, you're going to need lots of AOE stun/control. Don't waste a spot on Vinyara. Single target ult down won't help on this one.

Think Lossenia or Rava in stun sets, Zharloth, etc.

[little pivot]

Tiamat Torrin Ripekas quaesitia is a combo that kills 1-300 fey meander in one go

defo one of the best support excs

[light thistle]

At that hour, I was asleep ^^'

u mean blade colosseum ?

guess was yesterday afternoon for me

i'm noob at this mode, it's rare whan i win swiss rounds but i'm not bad in guess 😄

yeah i understand

[golden grove]

You have me for your blades teams 😇

[light thistle]

oh , for me the rng don't want i win, so i give up

the best i did is second

[golden grove]

2nd is good 🙂

[light thistle]

I find graphic design less of a hassle than PvP 🤣

[golden grove]

And me to make you coffee all day long 🤣

PVE has nothing to do with blades

There are players that are top of leader boards that don't even do blades

[light thistle]

i know a lot of players who can't buy anything on guess shop because they aren't here to guess when it's time ^^'

[golden grove]

Completing fey early is probably what most players do for rewards

[light thistle]

actually i'm first in guess, last season i finished first in guess

[golden grove]

I set my ps5 up and fell asleep 😴 🤭

Huh?

No you cant play DH on ps5

Ive got it to play Arc Raiders

I only got it yesterday, set it up and fell asleep 😴

Theres nothing casual about DH, you have to play every day, you cant pick it up and put it down

[golden grove]

Coffee?? ☕️

[light thistle]

always

[golden grove]

Croissant?

[fathom quiver]

?

Ah was about blade xD

Didn’t catch up that quickly

[frozen schooner]

That's my fav game mode.

[lunar coral]

Idk if I should select hvitar or gladys

Im on ss2

[frozen schooner]

gladys

[light thistle]

*going to stole 50 helios in the reserve of @fathom quiver *

• It's an open-ended loan for the good of the community 😄

https://tenor.com/view/no-the-office-michael-scott-scream-gif-16929305

[fathom quiver]

50 from here?

[light thistle]

exactly

#🐲┆dragonheir-chat message

[light thistle]

The same ones you were criticizing not long ago ^^'

[golden grove]

😴😴😴

https://tenor.com/view/sarah-paulson-katharinaste-ellen-degeneres-akward-awkward-gif-5214721752978074523

Since when did you become a mod in here?

Oh well if you dont like how he runs this chat thats your issue

So you like him but criticise him, yeh that makes sense

Yeh well we arent all like you and this discord works perfectly fine

To say you dont like it much you like to spam it for 4 hours

[light thistle]

As long as you don't forget that Strawberry gave you one last warning, it should be fine.

[lunar coral]

I’m kinda scared for the 7th April

I’m on ss2 it will difficult to know who I should pick and to compete whit ppl that played more season

[river imp]

Same here but i am in s1😂

[light thistle]

we are here to advice

ask and we'll answer

[golden grove]

So watch YouTube videos on heroes that have come out in seasons after you. Think of it as a positive, your going to have a wider selection of heroes to choose from and learn 😊

[lunar coral]

Ya I’m doing it but I don’t think they will give us a enough pull to bring soo much heroes, if we play 2 season less then u there is an enormous gap between us

[golden grove]

From what I have read, players from lower seasons will be matched together, they are going to match servers along with skill and season level. I wouldn't worry too much and we have a wide range of reborn players in this discord who can offer help and advice, from krackens to f2p 🙂

[lunar coral]

Idk, from what I understand only ppl that didn’t play for 14 days will be in a separate server

[golden grove]

We also have players that can talk in language thats easy to follow and not baffle your head with descriptive language that not even veteran players can follow 🙂

[vale cliff]

keep slaying binky, big chat here, big chat

[golden grove]

Ssiilllaayy good morning

[golden grove]

From what I understand you have 2 options of server, I will have to read it more in depth to follow it. But please dont worry, theres a lot of us here that can help 🥰

[lunar coral]

Do u understand if they plan to give us rewards only for the current season we re playing or all the season we missed?

[golden grove]

Let me just ignore this guy 1 sec, he is just spamming the chat with nonsense.

[golden grove]

Well to put you 3 seasons in front, I should think you will be compensated as how else can you compete with players that have done 4 seasons. Im not 100% sure, this would have to be answered by someone with more knowledge than me

[lunar coral]

Oh ok, btw ty for the answers

[golden grove]

No problem at all, but dont worry 😉 if im here i will always try to help 🙂

[lunar coral]

Ty ty

From now on should I save the pulls and skip the current banners? Bcose if there will be soo many heroes in the next future maybe is better to save(?)

[golden grove]

Yes I would save your dice

Any new heroes your unsure of just ask here. Are you season2?

[lunar coral]

Yep mid ss2, I’m going to skip aschetius and perkunte

[golden grove]

My advice would be to build your iceblast and summons teams

[lunar coral]

Today I -holed for beldelle arti and luky I pulled beldelle and tharivol and selected Gladys

[golden grove]

They will still carry you in further seasons

[lunar coral]

I have full ice last and summon whit their ex artificial too

[golden grove]

Oh nice, belle and her artifact are a must

Did you get lelwanis and bernade?

[light thistle]

Summon team / Iceblast team / dauntless team / Burn team / Corrosion team ( in this order for me )

[lunar coral]

Yep lel w artif and Bernade now

[golden grove]

They may struggle getting corrosion team, going into s6

[golden grove]

Good choices 👌

[light thistle]

Bernadette 🤣 lmao old women french name 🤣

[golden grove]

Awww we knew who they meant lol

[lunar coral]

Ohhh cmon it’s the auto corrector ahah

[light thistle]

bahahaha

i'm dead

[golden grove]

I prefer bernadette lol

[golden grove]

Shut up Pierre lol

[light thistle]

let me laught 🤣

[golden grove]

🤣🤣🤣

[golden grove]

My French name in school was Monique

[light thistle]

🤣

[river imp]

Are the buffs overall? Or just for the event?

[golden grove]

Just for the event

[light thistle]

for the event

[golden grove]

That for the island and the boats?

[river imp]

Ahh alr so it actually doesnt really matter who to pick

[golden grove]

Bonjour mois petite pois 🤣🤣

[lunar coral]

I’m doing a bad decision to skip aschetius and perkunte in your opinion?

[light thistle]

• I was talking about the order of priority in the choices, not the time it will take.

[golden grove]

Maybe not ashcetius but perkunte I regret as I have hardly played him since s2

[light thistle]

not ' mois ' , ' mon '
mois= months
my = mon

[golden grove]

I bet you wish you could ignore him too 🤭🤭

[light thistle]

Bonjour mon petit pois *

[river imp]

Alr thx

[golden grove]

Sorry forgive me 🤭

[light thistle]

yes but no 🙂

[light thistle]

i just help ur french 🤣

[golden grove]

We need to set up a language server lol

[light thistle]

for what ?

english here is good 😄

[golden grove]

To teach me the correct French lol

[lunar coral]

Ummm so I take the wrong decision to put ice and radiance pulls now? I should put ice lightning?

[golden grove]

Hhhmm

You have gladys and tharivol?

[lunar coral]

Get them today

[golden grove]

And thelendore

[lunar coral]

Today

[golden grove]

So full radiance team?

[lunar coral]

W this pull yes I miss their artif

[golden grove]

Its always good to have more teams built

[light thistle]

just be patient please and don't panick anymore

yeah ?

[lunar coral]

Ummm so I’ll pull for perkunte before the 7, I have grishnar too maybe it’s good for arena too, but I’ll not be able to get his artif

[golden grove]

If you have grish then dauntless team should be your next option

Wow you have a lot of heroes for season 2 player lol

[light thistle]

You have too many impressions. 🤣

[lunar coral]

Im not sure for perkunte bcose idk if its good to get him if we go on ss6, from what I see the meta for pvp change and im going to skip my final boss so maybe perkunte not that good? (XD) im kinda confuse srry

[golden grove]

I would save for nastyjenka and guin if I was you. Also phaesa will come out for you too s6

[lunar coral]

I have Nat, miss her artif

[light thistle]

where is my coffee

[golden grove]

Here going cold 🥶

[golden grove]

Deffo save your dice then, guiniverre is a must for your dauntless team

[lunar coral]

Okke, I’m done whit question, ty

[light thistle]

it's GUINAVIVRE

[lunar coral]

Mobile legends influence

[golden grove]

Sorry lol

[golden grove]

Sorry I got her name wrong , the spelling police are here 🤣

[light thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/pervert-perve-watch-watching-binoculars-gif-20019167

gotcha.

for others game it's in #🐉┆off-topic-chat please 🙂

[lunar coral]

Oh srry It was just to contextualize my previous message

[light thistle]

yeah i know ^^ i just tell u for next time 🙂

[golden grove]

Dont be sorry, I spam alsorts in here lol

[light thistle]

👀

i'll monitoring more so

ahahaha

[golden grove]

https://tenor.com/view/zootopia-zootopia-2-nick-wilde-dancing-fox-gif-8485141392785646276

[light thistle]

take notes

[golden grove]

You would be bored without me lol

[light thistle]

maybe or maybe not

who ?

[golden grove]

https://tenor.com/view/come-on-admit-that-life-boring-would-be-gif-18734284

[light thistle]

Keep going and I'm going to have to call your paranoid boyfriend 😄

why i don't understand what he say ?

man, i can translate all u say

but i don't understand why u say that here

[little pivot]

some people like being toxic to each other, for fun

Personally I don't get it

But I am also the sorta person that can't make the meanest choices in video games cus I feel bad

[light thistle]

I guess that getting help would impact some egos, whereas there is no harm or shame in getting help when things aren't going well.

[lunar coral]

And about those chest I should wait too?

[little pivot]

You'd be surprised how many people play games with the emotional maturity of a 4 year old, tbh. I play two different fpses and the amount of grown men that will just start screaming racial slurs if you don't do exactly as they say...

So it doesn't surprise me that this game would bring out the "so you think I'm stupid cus you're offering me help?" crowd tbh

[lunar coral]

Why do I feel implicated? Ahahahah
Jk

[light thistle]

I experienced this on some FPS games back in the day, which led me to stop playing those kinds of games, but overall it's humanity that's going off the rails, sometimes I try to understand and often I realize that people don't dare to ask for help for fear of the look or judgment of others and that's the real sadness.

[little pivot]

I had someone SCREAM at me yesterday calling me everything under the sun for not immediately resurrecting them in apex legends, and then they had a fit when I stopped after insult number three and said, unironically "Oh you've got such an ego!"

[light thistle]

hope u feel better soon

[little pivot]

Oh I just stopped in front of them and let the enemy team kill me

because knowing they lost is better than winning

[light thistle]

to bully ppl ?

very bad idea

[lunar coral]

How to made rage quit team xD

[little pivot]

There's a lot of men especially who have been taught that the only emotion they're allowed to feel is anger.

[lunar coral]

Btw I think I would do the same

[little pivot]

So they feel anything, shame, embarassment, etc and they lash out

It's sad, and a failure on the part of society, but man, if it isn't satisfying to deny their tantrums.

[light thistle]

I'm going to have to suggest the idea of ​​opening a psychology chat, it might prove useful.

[lunar coral]

(?)

[light thistle]

personnaly i take hélios, after i wait for see what i'll need

it's fully reserved so don't worry about that

[lunar coral]

Oke ty

[light thistle]

actually i wonder if take an dupe of karf will be interesting or not

mine is only i1 ^^'

[trail hinge]

Hello guys, does anyone by a chance have prophecy code with Ivelios ?

[golden grove]

Whats going on ?

[river imp]

Can anyone tell me the right skill timing for acient battlefield

[light thistle]

I was talking about the fact that some men with oversized egos would not accept help even if they are not well, for fear of judgment from others for example or because they would find it 'shameful'

[golden grove]

Omg you actually wrote that in here!! You seriously need to be banned!

[light thistle]

i don't remember what i used in season 1 sorry :/

[river imp]

Sad

What else

[golden grove]

And here you go being vile as usual

You really cant help yourself can you.

[little pivot]

have him at i2 and he's pretty great

i5 durem does all the damage but he buffs him quite a bit

[light thistle]

yeah i think i'll buy one karf ^^

[vagrant aurora]

Karf + durem = byebye harpy

Great duo

And bye bye lot other stuff too

[little pivot]

sad part is he's not even my best dps for most of the early season. i3 dark lady takes that spot

[vagrant aurora]

Nothing mentioned yet

[golden grove]

Good morning 🙂

[light thistle]

it's ' good moaning ' 🤣

[golden grove]

Is kels French too 🤔

[vagrant aurora]

Nope

German

[golden grove]

Who likes to were kilts 🤭

[vagrant aurora]

Did once 🤣

[golden grove]

Have you got any Scottish blood in you?? 🤭

[vagrant aurora]

Well actually once original style and for the rest during the whole event with underpants 🤣

[golden grove]

We have to keep secure 🤣

[vagrant aurora]

Gotta run, lunch prepping, making pizza dough now

[golden grove]

🤮🤮

[golden grove]

Enjoy 😉

[light thistle]

I'll keep it simple, I'll go eat with @golden grove 🤣

[golden grove]

Ham and cheese toasties 😋

[golden grove]

Ooo we can have noodles 🍜 😋

[light thistle]

I'm craving fries right now lol 🤣

[golden grove]

Yeh with a burger 🍔

[golden grove]

Lets go to five guys 😋

Oh give it a rest please

Unfortunately

[lunar coral]

Gladys and thele artif are important?

[golden grove]

Gladys yes wouldn't concentrate on thels

[lunar coral]

Okke

[vagrant aurora]

xD that be cool but it actually is more simple and has regulatory reasons by my employee

🙂

But he is sooo important for spire to get high scores, together with gladys

We just had the pvp tournament 🙂

Last couple rewards are hopefully at their destination soon

[river imp]

When the 7th of april comes should i go for
S2 (bedelle + bernade)
S3 (Guinavivre + the dark lady)
S4 (???)

If thats wrong please correct me
(Rn i am in s1 got a good summoner team and soon summoning for dauntless)

Am i not able to pick a own banner when they put me in season 5?

I mean rn i got 600 summons but i will put 300 for dauntless and maybe 300 for fire

Cuz they are the last 2 banners

Hmmm

So maybe its more wise to skip the last fire banner

And just pull for dauntless so i have 2-3 decent teams

Would you sugguest then to take ad many summons as possible into the mergr

I am rn in top 10

Like everywhere but i only have lelwanis as premium legendary

I did spent like 300 euros

Thats like t7

I do have lelwanis artifact

The only people above me are super whales with 3 teams i2-4 and for each a premium legendary with artifact

Yeah

….

Yeah now i only get to do 5-6 banners each season i guess

I pulled for 3 lelwanis banner to complete the entire team

And got like 540summons left atm

Yeah

So if i keep investing in my fav team and build random teams around to get 6 different elments would be enough

[light thistle]

• It would be better if you both ignored each other 🙂

I'm saying this to avoid unnecessary tension.

[indigo temple]

How many CC teams you go so far?

[light thistle]

actually 4 on 6, i need to thinking about the 2 lasts teams ^^' , and u ?

[obsidian elbow]

time to finally pull

Bernade i think

ow wait thats all summoners

[sleek furnace]

About April 7th update, do you guys think the summon banner will be better, worst or the same?

Idk if it is better to wait and save most on my summons and pull only on Astaion and Tiamat banners...

[obsidian elbow]

not sure what season im in

omg i cant pull in this one its a week later

i think its better to go for one of those

[terse estuary]

Top Up now and receive 5% extra crystals: Official Website

[obsidian elbow]

we got Aschetius in this season back

i just pull for a hero i want thats the banner ill wait for

my team is okay not great, so i can even wait just i like the gamble xd

ow wait i can choose

didnt see that option

but then the issue is what i want to go for

Frost for Beldelle, Lightning for Nastjenka, Poison for Sleight, Fire for Khrysos, Radiance for Gladys or Summon for Bernade? whats best option?

ice and nerco it is lets pull 😄

[tranquil sparrow]

Let's go gambling!

[obsidian elbow]

Bernade and lelwanis

unlucky 6th pull now

Zhorak was one i wanted to get

now with Zhorak im tempted to get Beldelle, but Bernade is still prob my most wanted

[river imp]

Thanks man for this intense information summary i made up my mind thanks to you

[obsidian elbow]

Bernade is the only summoner i miss, same with Beldelle being the only frost i miss

[indigo temple]

Pretty much the same. I also need to figure out the last 2 teams
im thinking Rally and Poison (Huldork & The Undead Couple)

[obsidian elbow]

my Lelwanis got her exclusive weapon and has Inspire 1

[river imp]

Good to know thanks

[obsidian elbow]

Lossenia on 120

[indigo temple]

I use them on Sagomir

[obsidian elbow]

darn the pulls very boring if its each 60

[river imp]

Yeah frost is only good for arena sadly thats why i always picked lelwanis over hvitar

[obsidian elbow]

another Zhorak on 200

Sintrella on 210 sadly i maxed her already

ow no Sintrella is now max Inspire nice

Ripekas on 260 means i can make his Inspire now too

i am going for Bernade cuz just better option

Shinnah on 300

cant complain, Zhorak - Lossenia - Zhorak - Sintrella - Ripkas - Shinnah - Bernade on 300 pulls

now im a bit stuck on who to use, cuz they do need a tank and a support right?

[indigo temple]

Lil'wanis, Sintrela, Bernade, Irzillas, Torrin.

When you get Tiamat, Torrin will be benched.

[vale cliff]

huge cheer 4 the silly & the dilly!

[indigo temple]

https://klipy.com/gifs/godzilla-fortnite

[obsidian elbow]

so use Ripekas maybe as tank?

that way u still have a full nerco team

short fights premtsa op

[light thistle]

@golden grove where is my coffee 👀

[hallow forum]

@golden grovehappy womans day. And just ignore his rudenes 😛

[light thistle]

i let her make the coffee otherwise she'll yell 🤣

[golden grove]

Im here 👋

What did I miss

[golden grove]

Thank you, even though ive never heard of it before 🤣🤭

[golden grove]

☕️😌

[hallow forum]

dont make me use deadpull gif about it 🤣

[golden grove]

Sorry lol

[indigo temple]

https://klipy.com/gifs/meh-well

[lapis kite]

Summon team is top for a bunch of content s1-s3 and for s4 still remains one of the strongest

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but new shadow exclusive replaces ozul rather than improve him

[hallow forum]

main problem with ozul is he scales really bad in to hard fight and tend to be bit slow for easy fight...

maybe if they add some enemy hp% based dmg in pve

[lapis kite]

I don't disagree, but the new shadow exclusive makes ozul completely redundant

It's quite disappointing but that's how they did it in s5

There's a bunch of great info and vids about

[hallow forum]

some other things scale with enlightment and do solid problem of fail design...

also ozuls artifact what does that thing even do ?

[lapis kite]

New exclusive is just better and other units synergise better with him as well

[hallow forum]

probably more premsa scenario she sinergize with lelwanis but other things work better XD

[lapis kite]

So it's the case of running new exclusive and other units to make it optimal

[hallow forum]

yeah she is good but also have limited power... but its not about unit it self more about yeah you can use her with lelwanis and it works but if you use something other instead it works way better

so probably same scenario with ozul and new unit... yeah it can work but if you kick him out works better XD

[lapis kite]

Still, the new exclusive is better and other slots are better filled with other units

[hallow forum]

lose energy fast so transforms back if solo. And turtle dont alwsys works with good assassins

[lapis kite]

Also bear in mind the new shadow exclusive seems to do good in some of the content but for pve seems to require heavy investment

Not sure where you get that information from... Premtsa is very niche

Whereas lelwanis does great at where summon team does great

[hallow forum]

so shadow still not viable in pve without big investment? Ofc aside from speed runs

[lapis kite]

That's fair, I'm mostly basing it on optimal lineups

Not saying premtsa is bad, but definitely way, way more niche

Very easy to disprove based on top DMG lineups for the content she's used in

[hallow forum]

Dont know early season C6 venom i use lelwanis cos other stuff just cant handle it

i dont use her on some other content cos well if something can do it faster no point using her

[sly heron]

Lelwanis needs time to stack, or have Sin and Bear with her. Premsta just starts deleting right away. Lelwanis outscales her yes... eventually. A decently long eventually.

[lapis kite]

Agreed, whereas premtsa isn't useful in nearly as much content as that

Nor is she optimal

[sly heron]

Yeah you just stat her right slap her in and she good

[sly heron]

if you don't have time she is optimal 😄

that's the point

[light thistle]

the marmot is awake

[sly heron]

sleep is for non-marmots

[lapis kite]

Than lelwanis? Sure. Than other teams? Absolutely not

[light thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/excited-fuego-gif-26833875

[hallow forum]

untill her flat dmg is tickling enemy and she become useless... Same like ozul untill his flat dmg starts tickling and he becomes useless

[lapis kite]

When comparing units it's not just comparing them to each other, it's comparing to optimal lineups

[sly heron]

fair but it all depends on timing still, Premsta outdamages for a decent amount of time until Lel scales

once Lel scales it's game over.... if you had the time for it

[sly heron]

ye but the optimal lineup for different types of content is different

[hallow forum]

@sly heronhappy womans day neighbor 😛

[indigo temple]

Not sure i see the point in the other rewards given this mode will start 40 days after the season begins, by then people have buiild up a decent reserve of the rewards listed. Seems it will be about teh fragments only

[sly heron]

thank you :3

[lapis kite]

All depends on what you want out of them. If you want versatility and not meta or top teams, sure. If you want optimal and meta, premtsa doesn't see almost any usage after s1

Whereas lelwanis remains top

[sly heron]

catchup for plebs like me xD

when you gotta keep that one deleter alive 😄

[lapis kite]

Can you still use her? Sure. Are there much much better options than premtsa? Absolutely

[sly heron]

you got money for both optimal and meta? sheesh 😄 we not that rich here

BCFre and me sharing a braincell rn

[lapis kite]

You don't need to spend tons to get great rankings lol

[sly heron]

I'm on an OG server

[hallow forum]

so not really worth bothering much fragments give bion or gilian or rhash XD

[lapis kite]

Everyone has to do that unless you're mega kraken

[sly heron]

sooooo yeah kinda

[lapis kite]

So am i

I don't spend tons, and yet I can get rook i5 over time

And there are people that spent less and are doing even better in my guild cause they planned better

[sly heron]

I got weighed towards necro so I got Lel that was pretty much it xD otherwise she wouldn't have been essential at all

[lapis kite]

Depends on what you're after lol

[indigo temple]

The Exclusive fragements have all the S1 ex-units so that one is viable. The other you could probably just hold and pop them whenever you like i guess

[lapis kite]

Lelwanis up to S4 remained a mandatory addition for bossing and cc

[sly heron]

I still don't have bear

[lapis kite]

So if you wanted to get good rankings you needed to have her

[lapis kite]

She helps a lot for lelwanis team

[sly heron]

I am aware. that's why I said it 😄

[light thistle]

isn't complicated for lelwanis :x

[lapis kite]

Even in S4, tho at that point you need proper investment in her

[indigo temple]

https://klipy.com/gifs/hes-cheating-1

[hallow forum]

am sure exclusive fragment would drop worst most useless option also XD

[sly heron]

yeah you just need her and 2 enablers 😄

[light thistle]

you wish 🤣

[light thistle]

don't be jealous like that please

🤣

[indigo temple]

They are specifically those S1 ex-s we want.

[light thistle]

there is better than me 🤣

[hallow forum]

Venom C6 she dont wasps die she get stacks

[sly heron]

eh I need to log on and play more lol xD I'm fine

[lapis kite]

That's great. Different people and different servers will have different competitors. Ones that have top competitors will absolutely use lelwanis

And again, not just whales or krakens

Depends on what you're after lol

[sly heron]

wait there's other stuff?! 😮

[lapis kite]

You don't have to aim for top rankings to enjoy the game

[light thistle]

well, summon team work very well in s4 too 🙂

than in s3 , s2 and s1

[lapis kite]

But if you so aim for top rankings, yes you need her and you deffo don't need premtsa

[sly heron]

nah it's IB now 😄

[hallow forum]

am sure i will find some bug with that so it drop something bad XD

[lapis kite]

It does yeah but gotta get inspirations for her

[light thistle]

???

[sly heron]

IceBlast

[lapis kite]

And in S5 burn started to reign supreme

[light thistle]

don 't listen those jealous ppl 🤣

[indigo temple]

Your pessimism is unmatched 😂

[lapis kite]

It's not about jealousy, they're just plain wrong

[light thistle]

on CC they did less damage than summon team but well

[sly heron]

idk I need to log in more 😄

[hallow forum]

and also well earned

[lapis kite]

Lelwanis is objectively a much better and more impactful unit

[sly heron]

depends on the conteeeent

oh yeah the Lel coding is so weird

[light thistle]

i'll come back later..

[lapis kite]

For content where lelwanis is top, she is used. For content where premtsa could be somewhat effectively used, there are way better options

And no, you don't need to spend loads

Therefore, lelwanis is superior

[sly heron]

you're just goin in circles now there's no point 😄

[lapis kite]

Premtsa? Somewhat yeah, nowhere near optimal

[indigo temple]

Why would you leave when you can defend Lil'Wanis? 😂

[vale cliff]

remember to take a breather to cheer 4 sillydilly

[light thistle]

because there is already remine for that

i can take rest 🤣