📊┆dragon-lineup-help

[vapid bluff]

yep everytime he dies very fast

[real meadow]

Eurion will help with that issue at least

[vapid bluff]

trying to find the thing with the eurion challenge atm

[jaunty wolf]

this is why eurion is better on that fight cos if his hp drops to 0 her goes imune and heal up...

also his ulty apply shield, dmg reduction, deffense up... so reduce dmg he takes

low ranks like 6 you prbobably could pull off with ripekas but need high deffense and hp on gear

maybe afrifact if you unlocked slot

[vapid bluff]

his quests says go to lumina and begin the new journey

will give this a shot to see what happens

[jaunty wolf]

could help tank stay alive bit longer

[vapid bluff]

got the stone cloack and put it on ripekas so maybe that helps a little

got closer then before ngl

Is this thing better then the other?

I lose 100 defense but get some skills

[jaunty wolf]

well your deffense it not much so not sure how it would perform have to test stuff

[vapid bluff]

just tested it and can confirm it did not work

will just have to farm some more gear or xp i guess and wait for 2nd day to unlock some more stuff

[jaunty wolf]

but setup you use now should work just could be missing stats to pull off (low power)

[vapid bluff]

probably is true cause im not that far away

do you recommend me to farm goblin or just go for stage 5 of harpy?

[jaunty wolf]

really not sure about eurion what was quest and what you said didnt say much just need to go where it say and start new quest or something

[vapid bluff]

yeah i think its just locked behind timewall cause next quest i need to wait for 2nd day

[jaunty wolf]

i tend to chase to up rank usually but you are missing so much heroes just rank it self could not be enough

also there should be some guide where you can steal or buy some gear early on

[vapid bluff]

not sure where that is but can try and find it

[real meadow]

check pinned posts in the general chat

[jaunty wolf]

stolen it from him 😅 @balmy compass

not sure you could go all of regions but some of it should be possible

[real meadow]

yeah that's all a couple days into the server's timeline

[jaunty wolf]

so some of gear you buy from merchent there or try to steal is from...

[vapid bluff]

okay ty will go hunt for the merchants

[real meadow]

I've been trying to get clever with these guys but I can't keep the aoe damage at bay

[acoustic fable]

Play with positioning, for example put Ripekas and Eurion on one side 🙂

[real meadow]

this worked! thanks

[acoustic fable]

Cool! 🙂

[high vector]

Rot challenge 6, i broke my team and forgot what I used? Some1 help going insane

Idk if I'm just hells dumb or what

[rare parcel]

Do you have beldelle or some damage dealer?

Might be that you need a better damage source

[high vector]

Tried with bel also but issue is I'm getting eaten and dying

Didnt bave this issue before and cant seem to figure it out, tried past 30 mins npw😅

Just a survival issue, damage is fine with or without beldelle, insta killing devour but then he decides to randomly eat shinnsh sometimes also

[rare parcel]

You need another melee hero to get the eating attention away

[high vector]

Repositioned gillian and did skill time change and its dead, im just dumbbbb ig

[shell prairie]

You're getting eaten w/ Thia and Torrin? You might want to check this week's challenge buffs. Something might have changed there that is causing you to get eaten - some weeks the boss steals your buffs, or dispels one or more of them, or gets recharge speed boost for every debuff applied. If so, you'll have to address the specific problem.

[high vector]

OH yeh it changes challenge buffs, that's probably what's screwed me over completely forgot

Thats why my shinnah's invis dissapeared, explains it

[real meadow]

is it capped daily or weekly, because I was only able to buy about 50/450 for Utior

[rare parcel]

If you’re s3 the Grishnaar Banner will probably not exist anymore

[compact cloak]

Guys Tiamat first inspiration or artifact

Which one

[sturdy lantern]

The artifact is not mandatory in itself, however, you can only get it now, I don't know at the moment if they plan to put it in the permanent shop or not.

[vapid bluff]

these are my legendarys, i need to use 2 scrolls for quest which of these do i scroll? and also have 1 dupe legendary so can buy a artifact if thats good and if so which one?

[rare parcel]

Ripekas and Vinyara are usually used throughout the seasons

[vapid bluff]

great will go for ripe first then since he is in my goblin team

[vapid bluff]

what red artifact do you think would be best for my account rn? currently stuck in the dungeons

[rare parcel]

Witches Remains is a must have and otherwise Hourglass is working on him really good

[vapid bluff]

great ty got that

are there any legendarys early game which souls i should not spend on artifacts?

[rare parcel]

Gatekeeper staff, Horn and such are always good to have

[azure sluice]

artifact. It allows her to be dps not just support

[errant river]

Hi guys anyone got a line up for meander trial 79? Still not done that one. Its stupidly too hard imo. God knows how hard the rest is.

[acoustic fable]

There are some team recommendations: https://discord.com/channels/928541801260908546/1475782875373764629
Play around with positioning and don‘t forget food buffs. 🙂

[errant river]

Cheers mate

[unique oxide]

Please suggest a linup for this boss level

[astral heath]

ez. garius, any aoe debuffer, sigrid
make sure sigrid is built with just enough acc to apply her atk down. Make sure she always goes after ure aoe debuffer (who only needs accuracy)
Fill the other 2 roles, with a dedicated support (like heksandra) and another dps.

can u list ure artifacts as well pls

[unique oxide]

Sure

[astral heath]

ok lol, we gonna change this up.
Garius (tank/healer) - build with 1 hp% and 1 Def% equipment.
heksandra(keep garius topped up) (prefereably enlightenment chest)
sigrid (accuracy) - apply atk down right before harpy does the final attk per round
premptsa for more aoe damage.
isitarian for making premptsa better.

The way the fight works, is she spawns balls, and the more balls on field, the more damage she does on her final atk of round. so get aoe boiz to destroy the balls. Sigrid will help apply atk down, just in case she targets some other hero

[unique oxide]

But i dont have garius

[astral heath]

oh u are not day 2 yet

my b. u get him free on day 2.

for now u can use the free tank u started the game with

the dwarf

[unique oxide]

Ok

[astral heath]

ahh sigrid is going to be ure go to for all seasons. (if ure f2p),
so scroll her as soon as u can

[unique oxide]

Getting destroyed in seconds

Dwarf dies in 10 seconds

[astral heath]

can u show me ure dwarf. and ure character levels?

[gentle hazel]

That ice shard hero as tank....
2. Premsta
3. Zaddok
4. Estella
5. Vinyara

[astral heath]

no

[astral heath]

horrus

[gentle hazel]

Not him, that ice shard blue hero

[gentle hazel]

Horrus will die... Not doing Fire affinities here

[astral heath]

its harpy

[gentle hazel]

Yes him... Scroll him up, he is a mini Eurion

He won't die on last death and reveals, so Estella quickly heals him back to full health

[astral heath]

oh ye u can use dalbam too

[unique oxide]

I have enough scroll to max skill of one hero only

[gentle hazel]

Vinyara will be at his back for more Shield and ULT back

[astral heath]

dont max skill ure epics for now

[gentle hazel]

👀 Yes I know

[astral heath]

then why this comment? what does fire affinity have to do with harpy?

[gentle hazel]

Max skill him... How many days left for unskilling heroes.

I think you have 30 times max and within 7 days right 🤔.

So check up first, if some time to unskill Remains, fully skill him up to win that side and unskilled his scrolls

[unique oxide]

Its day 1 for me

[gentle hazel]

👀 Horrus will die once at 0% health

Dallbam wouldn't

So it's a safer pick for Frost/Necrosis

[astral heath]

and what does that have to do with fire affinity

[gentle hazel]

Horrus is what 🤦‍♂️

[astral heath]

👀 cofused

[gentle hazel]

😂 Horrus is Fire and will be breaking Affinities in S1 lol

It's Frost/Necrosis not Fire/Necrosis

You will gain more stats with same Affinities but will lose more with different affinities

[astral heath]

hes day 1

there is no affinity bonus

👀

[gentle hazel]

Let him try with Horrus, and watch him die faster if no fire and Posion heroes at the back 👀

He will survive longer with Dallbam, but will do way more damage with Horrus

[unique oxide]

Please tell the positioning too 🙂

Ice shard and black orb front ?

Rest back ?

[astral heath]

again do u notice there is no affinities in the screenshot?👀

cause hes day 1. and psychicore affinity upgrades dont unlock on day 1

[gentle hazel]

Dallbam in front of the boss.... The blue bird at the left of Dallbam..

Premsta at 2 lines back towards the left, Vinyara at Dallbam back.

Estella, opposite far end of Premsta.

Zaddok at behind Vinyara back.

[gentle hazel]

He has to understand it from Day one if not he will suffer badly from there from mismatch.

[astral heath]

admiiting u were wrong is not showing weakness. just letting u know

[gentle hazel]

This is not admitting anything

Some heroes works well in Affinity

It's like bringing Vidimir without Rava

His Damage will be too low from Day 1

Now hope you understand 👀

[gentle hazel]

How was it... Did you win, share results. If you don't win, we can find another format for you to win with your teams

At times it could be hero location problem

[gentle hazel]

Oh I forgot to say manual Vinyara at boss close to 3rd ULT

[unique oxide]

Any changes here ?

[gentle hazel]

Oh you did Auto

[gentle hazel]

Yeah, the bird location should have been Dallbam place

[unique oxide]

I tried , but dallbam dies way faster that way

[gentle hazel]

I guess the issue is with your Estella not healing faster

[unique oxide]

Who to put these artifact on ?

[unique oxide]

.

[slate tiger]

Are there any active promo codes?

[gentle hazel]

We will go a hard way...

Change Vinyara to That Torrin... Put more Enlightenment and defense on him...

Dallbam needs more defense and Resistance

Ahh, you don't have much gears yet... That's another issue.

You need at least Crown of Unclean or Witches Remains

Torrin needs healing Artifact, Vinyara needs Haste Artifact or Rift Hourglass.
Premsta needs that Fan Artifact

[gentle hazel]

It should be on #🐲┆dragonheir-chat side here... You will find it

[unique oxide]

Lemme try

[gentle hazel]

Or go Dallbam/Vidimir/Rowena/Torrin/Estella.

Because you don't have Garius, which is more crucial here for epic or Eurion as Legendary Tank best for here

[unique oxide]

I dont have vidimir

Nvm , i have him

Nothing is working

I should just try tmr ig

[sturdy lantern]

go get eurion with arena

u need a good tank in the first step

[unique oxide]

There is no hero in arena shop

[sturdy lantern]

that's not what i mean

in season 1, u can get eurion for free if i remember correctly if u are rank top 2000 or something like that

[unique oxide]

It is day capped

[sturdy lantern]

my bad it was torrin

[sturdy lantern]

yeah this one

[unique oxide]

pls Help out with this mode , this is my current best team

Should i eat the food ?

They might give enough buffs

[sturdy lantern]

for vortex, try premtsa isitarian, eleuia, estella, torrin

vinyara is ueseless here ( in vortex )

[unique oxide]

Ok

[gentle hazel]

Instead of Eleuia use Vasska as Tank

[sturdy lantern]

personnaly i'll put estella as a tank, full hp full def ^^'

eleuia buff summon :/

[gentle hazel]

But she will die way faster

[sturdy lantern]

no torrin heal too

estella heal too

[gentle hazel]

Vasska tanks/Heals himself constantly

And he attacks also

His attack is actually greater

Anyways he should try the two and see which gives way more damage and go with

[unique oxide]

Thanks man

[sturdy lantern]

ur welcome

[astral heath]

try to max out ure levels. early levels have pretty big stat differences. the later levels are more forgiveable

[unique oxide]

Ah ok

[astral heath]

also, early equipment its better for flat atk, flat hp and flat def

[unique oxide]

I am thinking of exp farming with remaining stamina as everything else is day capped

[astral heath]

u can double check me here by maxing out any of ure same quality atk% and flat atk

[astral heath]

did u get ure 120 stamina already?

[gentle hazel]

On Day 1, nothing like that

[astral heath]

from dailies, is that unlocked?

[gentle hazel]

It should be around 30-60 stamina bread given

[astral heath]

oh 60 then. i c

[gentle hazel]

Later on about a week or two is 120 bread

[astral heath]

ohhh. i legit didnt even notice. make sense

[gentle hazel]

Yes... But if you feel you can't do 3 stars in that dungeon, its time to focus on gears a bit more and retry the Goblin Lair dungeon again

[astral heath]

@unique oxide do survive teh full 10 mins? i see u dont

[gentle hazel]

On Day 1 that's impossible 👀

You will be lucky to last 8mins self

[astral heath]

hmmm. i did.

but also i did have garius and oggok

[gentle hazel]

As a lvl 44 🤣... Sure you did

[astral heath]

🙂 now u know

[gentle hazel]

Maybe at lvl 59 sure.

[astral heath]

set ure timing correctly and oggok will carry u

19 / 20 for garrius 39/20 for oggok.

i had staff as well 🙂

[gentle hazel]

That's for those who got tips before... And has scroll.

As F2P without spending, it's impossible

[astral heath]

i see

i havent played the new version as without resources so i believe u

[unique oxide]

Yes

[astral heath]

on the old version it was possible with frurbath and heksandra

[gentle hazel]

The issue is Oggok +25% chance to use skill... If unscrolled your team would be dead before he uses his ULT.

So the best heroes are the full scrolled ones

[astral heath]

and sigrid. cause perma atk down

[gentle hazel]

Not good for Single Target lol

[unique oxide]

Btw there is 120 stamina to buy

[gentle hazel]

Usha would even deal more damage than her there

[unique oxide]

I have already bought it

[gentle hazel]

On Day 1... I guess there update made changes 🤔

[unique oxide]

Damage with other team

[astral heath]

actually she is really good for vortex for f2p. cause she can appy atk down.

[gentle hazel]

Nope... 👀 The free one given not that one.

[unique oxide]

Yippe

[unique oxide]

There is nothing given for free

I have bought two breads from shop

[sturdy lantern]

by the way, the new vortex it's 7:30 now.

[gentle hazel]

There should be... Daily Progression pact 🤔

Where you will see finish Harpy dungeon 20/20

Join an Alliance and something like such

[astral heath]

woah.

[sturdy lantern]

^^' yeah

[gentle hazel]

😳 it lowered again 😭.

Oh man, Corrosion teams will suffer way more now, and wouldn't this affect Lelwanis as she always ULT slow

[sturdy lantern]

between 10 et 12b corrosion

for the higher dmg i mean

[gentle hazel]

The issue is your Lelwanis 👀... She will barely be able to do 4-5 ULT.

Unlike 10 mins with extra 1-2 more ULT from her with insane damage

[astral heath]

We got diff vortex

[sturdy lantern]

^^' enjoy

[gentle hazel]

I guess the vortex timing is based on which season you are

[astral heath]

S1

[sturdy lantern]

?? u are joking ?

[gentle hazel]

He is in S5, maybe his Vortex highest is 7 mins

[unique oxide]

Btw thanks guys for helping me in these different modes

[sturdy lantern]

S4.

[gentle hazel]

👀 Isn't that how fast she should with Bernade and Sintrellia 🤔. What joke was I making

[gentle hazel]

You are welcome

[sturdy lantern]

in 7:30 she can ult more than 4 or 5 times lmao

[astral heath]

If u have time. Can u replace vasska with high accuracy Sigrid. At time her so she ults right before vortex ult

[sturdy lantern]

ask @crisp jasper

[unique oxide]

Lemme try in 10 min

[gentle hazel]

So in 10 mins before how many ULT Lelwanis could do that you tested 🤔 and for 7 mins.

If that doesn't affect her then the timing for Vortex is great, if not it will also affect Corrosion then

[crisp jasper]

Hmm?

[sturdy lantern]

-_-

i give up

[astral heath]

Ehh it should affect both. But isn't corrosion just straight up better? Or did it get nerfed after I left?

[gentle hazel]

He didn't use Vasska but Eleuia in Vortex 👀

[astral heath]

He posted second team

[sturdy lantern]

for this post @crisp jasper

[gentle hazel]

They take longer to ramp up too like Lelwanis....

But does insane damage... The more time the bigger their damage

[crisp jasper]

Lelwanis ults on cooldown

[astral heath]

I mean by the 3rd minute rook should already be on max stacks. With toadstool

[gentle hazel]

Oh just saw that... Didn't notice.

[crisp jasper]

The issue with summoners isn't the damage output, it's the survival

[gentle hazel]

👀 Not with Torrin being there.

[crisp jasper]

Pointless to use Torrin if you want damage 🙂

[gentle hazel]

The issue is with Torrin ULT being longer. Estella is the fastest healer in Before

[gentle hazel]

So it's The dark lady 🤔

Now the healing with be less but more damage now I understand you

[sturdy lantern]

he'll say ' she had ult 3 times '

🤣

[crisp jasper]

5 minutes it's a wipe.. the difference from this season compared to last is the healing gained which is usually what keeps the team alive

[astral heath]

I mean I remember using solo calavera and then 4 corrosions and kept placing 3rd. The only time is lost is when people have more than 1 copy of any other champion

[gentle hazel]

As how 😂 bro

[sturdy lantern]

i5 , rota 15 sec, 4 ult / min x)

[crisp jasper]

Lelwanis ults on cooldown, she has her own minion generator 🙂

[gentle hazel]

In S1 he isn't... The more he keeps the tank alive the longer the damage the DPS at the back goes on 🤔. In Vortex 👀, once the first person receiving thunder strike dies everyone else follows and die.

That pact is the challenge I always had... 🤣

[crisp jasper]

Tiamat is the healer, for this team also an enabler for extra damage 🙂

[real meadow]

could this be solved by Dauntless? possibly

[astral heath]

Nahh. Dauntless is not good without leggos

[gentle hazel]

Instead of Irzillas can't Vasska be used too... 🤔 Or what challenge will be of him

[gentle hazel]

👀 Now you will be need crazy healers or revive queen Mithreasea 🤣 to go extra lol

[crisp jasper]

Irz provides buffs, the whole premiss to summons is to enhance lelwanis for her damage output

[gentle hazel]

Damage isn't there issue, surviving is Dauntless issue

[real meadow]

Praise Dauntless!

[gentle hazel]

Yeah, that's what I used... Been a while I have been online to game for 3 days now

[real meadow]

and Garius/Catherine tends to be a pretty great heal setup

[crisp jasper]

Been using Summons since s1, so it's been fun seeing the ups and downs each season 🙂

[gentle hazel]

This is my team for Vortex

S1 though

[real meadow]

my boi Sagomir ❤️

[gentle hazel]

I can see him as the only hero that gives ULT up a bit to anyone he feels like to 👀. Makes me survive way longer

[gentle hazel]

Yeah summon is great....

It's just me loving Vasska for summoning/tanking/Healing himself and defense. Something Frurbath and Ghul'ende does in combination. 🤔

And has survivability of Eurion. Only issue his is Summons doesn't have effect on Lelwanis

[crisp jasper]

Vasska isn't needed if you have Lelwanis

[gentle hazel]

He only summons 2 that attacks, which constantly heals him

[real meadow]

Vasska/Irzillas is a great frontline setup

[gentle hazel]

Not saying him replacing Lelwanis but Irzillas for someone who doesn't have him. Just trying to get the rate up

[gentle hazel]

2 tanks 😑 in Vortex

[astral heath]

what are timings for these

damn i dont even have sutha

[gentle hazel]

No timing

[real meadow]

Irzillas is a tank?

[astral heath]

wild.

[gentle hazel]

Yes

[astral heath]

i mean. thats dauntless brah

[crisp jasper]

No

He's a buffer

[real meadow]

the duality of man

[gentle hazel]

No timing.... Only got Sutha/Mithreasea/Nastjenka scrolled... The rest 2 (Garett/Sagomir) no scrolls and Zero Timing.

I leave them to Mithreasea to revive them 🤣

[real meadow]

am i gearing him wrong then?

[crisp jasper]

Depends where you're using him 😄

[sturdy lantern]

sound great for planar

[astral heath]

sagomir for carrot?

[gentle hazel]

Timing for Dauntless... Bro don't do that, let them going killing spree 🤣.

Don't hold Dauntless down with Timing, they do great without it

Best people to use timing on should be support heroes

[crisp jasper]

That only works for lower Vortex, once you reach stage 4, you'll need timers

[astral heath]

well i mean. techically if sutha goes (with remains) goes before garett and nastyJ, ure damage should increase a bit

and it was more for mythrasea. cause if u know when people die, and time myth for that moment, she can death prevention, and then thus get more dps before death

which is why my oggok is set at 39/20 cause people die at big attack during 7-10 mins for me

but hey, if it works. ill try no timing too lmao

[gentle hazel]

Here is mine... Always working on it, I don't have gears.

And the timing will go off since not all of them has Full Mass skill.

[gentle hazel]

I am in Vortex 3 and no timing done... I don't even know how to do the timing.

Only work out with my support at times when I do.

And I heard the timing only works when all the 5 teams has same timing of 18 or 20 secs

[crisp jasper]

What vortex do you have in S1 now?

[gentle hazel]

Vortex III... not been online in 3 days. Maybe now will be Vortex IV

[crisp jasper]

Do you have this guy?

[gentle hazel]

I haven't played since 3 days, so not sure if it's turn has started

[astral heath]

u click manage -> skill time

[crisp jasper]

It might be S2 we got this different Vortex, forgot already

[gentle hazel]

I didn't say I can't do skill timing 👀 but bad at it. Only works with support, my DPS goes way off

Either someone goes faster than planned and mess up the score

[gentle hazel]

I will look out to it... Yours might be different outlook from S2.

But I have been doing well in damage a bit.

6M max Vortex I, 15M Vortex II, 50M Vortex III.

That's how my damage kept rising 🤔

[crisp jasper]

Personally I'm in S4 as a bunch of us here are, but the also changed the way to how Vortex performed and gave us a different vortex boss. Which is what I was curious about

[gentle hazel]

Oh looking at the boss second line... It's not in S1. Totally different

As I saw a blue dash there 🤔 that should be from S2 and above Vortex way

[crisp jasper]

So for us, Timings are much more needed as you have to do damage at certain points and buff at certain points otherwise the run is ruined 🙂

[gentle hazel]

I saw this in chat... And I know S1 never had this functionality

[crisp jasper]

Yeah

[gentle hazel]

😭 now I don't have Master Scrolls as F2P... So only one I can manage is my Dauntless team 😂

[sturdy lantern]

If you stopped making 5000 rerolls, you'd see other things 🤣

[crisp jasper]

So you'll have that to look forward to 🙂

[gentle hazel]

😭 Bro don't do me like that... I just got tired, so needed to rest. DH be stiffing my brains because of rerolls

[astral heath]

ok i read it wrong. my bad

[gentle hazel]

At least I got achievement as Master Reroller 🤣.

Even if I didn't win any Achievements in game ever

[astral heath]

cause i thot it read as "I don't even know how to do the timing"

[gentle hazel]

Oh apologies understood

😂 I am the only person don't know how to use timiny

🤣 mine is just put the team, at a random location to see which tiles placement gave me higher scores or not

[astral heath]

i genuinely believe u can get a higher score. but also if u dont need it. theres no point

[gentle hazel]

I need it... But don't know how to do it. 😓

That's my dilemma, and that's the reason I haven't gotten higher damage in Vortex outrageously whatsoever.

😭 People I gave guidelines be doing the most than me the guide giver. 😓 @sturdy lantern Bro teach me timing

[sturdy lantern]

i'm a noob

🙃

[gentle hazel]

[astral heath]

ahh. u mind sending me a screenhot of ure ult and cooldowns with ure artifacts equipped on whatever team ure using now. i may be able to atleast give a suggestion

and if it doesnt work. no harm done.

[gentle hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/chicken-gif-7202518248086882735

[gentle hazel]

Here is the team I used... For Vortex. Zero Timing done

For Dungeons different teams... I use Felosia/Mithreasea.

I replace Sagomir for Felosia.

In first dungeon I use Ergander instead of Mithreasea

[astral heath]

its the ult timing i need more than anything.

cause i cant read that in the screenshots

[sturdy lantern]

Before discussing timing, we need to start with the basics: each hero's equipment and skill haste. This will allow us to then talk about rotations and set up a timer to optimize DPS.

[astral heath]

my goal. was to simply give them the timing based on what they have now. and if it works. it will pretty much give them a breakdown on how to do the timing for all future teams

and if it doesnt work. am a sham

[gentle hazel]

Hold on, how can I know timing ULT for Mithreasea with Rift Hourglass 🤔 as this doesn't show in the paper aspect

[sturdy lantern]

......

[astral heath]

Every point of Skill Haste increases recharge speed by 0.002 per second

in old version

hourglass doesnt add skill haste to ure total. because (i can only assume) lazy code. either than or it works as some sort of exponential function after a certain threshold of skill haste.

[sturdy lantern]

it's just for the first ultimate

' extra '

i tried on many heroes, never had a rota 15 second with only this artif

[gentle hazel]

So only for the first Ultimate... 😭 Then how is this useful then for Vortex.

It's best for Arena then lol

I thought it was constantly 🤦‍♂️

[astral heath]

same

[sturdy lantern]

isn't very clear but it's how i understand the thing

and 60 skill haste = approx -2 seconds

we don't know if it's contantly, or for the first time

but we got 60 skill haste

only with 60 skill haste from artif

-1 second initial and -1.7 sec for complete recharge

( for all the fight )

@gentle hazel next question, how to time team with puppet set :

[gentle hazel]

Wouldn't this be -1 seconds reduction on others.

On him will be 10/15.3 seconds.

Am I correct or wrong 🤔

Based on that 10% on ULT Skill of same element with him

[sturdy lantern]

on 20 sec, 10% = 2 seconds

@jaunty wolf maths detected !

16.3-1.6 ( approx )

if u got good runes with skill haste too, i think u can have a hochadir on a rota 13/14 secs

( for the example )

so for timing u need what in priority ? the wr ( often with the puppet set ) , next the buffer and for finish ur dps

[gentle hazel]

Should the buffer as healer goes 2nd or at the last

[sturdy lantern]

depend the content

u'll need to see timing of skills on ur ennemies too

[gentle hazel]

But in general support goes 2nd, DPS 3rd and WR Holder first 🥇🤔

[sturdy lantern]

shielder maybe , healer in last from my knowledges

[gentle hazel]

But it doesn't work on frost team especially Vidimir and Sigrid 😑, even Vinyara. They spoil the timing

[sturdy lantern]

never use sigrid since reborn 🙁

same for vidimir

and vinyara i use her only on curse :/

[astral heath]

as an example. if u use schalter or vani, as buffers they can actually go before ure wr applier (like ivelli) and nasty J last.

the reason u do this is because it gives ivellios more AS to apply WR sooner more consistently, so that nastyJ can have a tighter timing, so her initial ult damage can be rioght after wr

[gentle hazel]

When I don't have Master Scrolls, all I can stick to her epics. 🙂

Until I get the required full DPS, I can't use others

[sturdy lantern]

scrolls heroes is important too yes

[gentle hazel]

Is Ivellios great at buffer... 🤔 I mainly see Tharivol and Sutha great at it without missing most times

[sturdy lantern]

ivellios = dps

need full attack enlightment attack speed

tharivol WR and full crit rate / crit dam / accu

[gentle hazel]

Well since I don't have him, Sutha took charge of that

[astral heath]

just applying to myself. i dont have sutha or tharivol. so schaltar works really well as sub dps. and ivellios as wr due to how many attks he can output within a second

[sturdy lantern]

schaltar is buffer ^^ shagrol is a good dps, nimbus too

in season 3 u'll got guinavivre

a must have in dauntless team , very high dps

[astral heath]

am hoping the "echoing shadow summons" help me get them

[sturdy lantern]

save all ur dices 🙂

[astral heath]

ye i am 1 week into s1, with 21k and 200 dices

[gentle hazel]

Well will Sutha/Nastjenka/Guinevere/Tharivol/Mithreasea works great for Vortex 🤔...

This was my plan for Vortex onward. But I don't know if to replace Sutha with someone else or is this pretty more decent for more damage there?!

[astral heath]

so just gonna save until apirl 7th now. i wanted lelwanis, but i am worried the event will be like raid shadow legends. massive fomo if u dont use ure dices on it. and even more fomo if u dont have a lot of dices saved

[gentle hazel]

I have none... 60 dices left 😑

[sturdy lantern]

i don't remember correctly the dauntless team for vortex but i'm sure there was guinavivre nastjenka, grishnaar, and don't remember the 2 last

[gentle hazel]

I remembered Enma or maybe someone else said Grishnaar really isn't much important that someone else could be used for more damage and all

So if I don't have Grishnaar, can Sutha take his spot there

[sturdy lantern]

maybe

[astral heath]

This is what I had for day 1 of vortex 2

I barely survive at the end. Most dead only for the final 18 seconds

My nastyJ and the guy who's first lelwanis

Cooked competition

[gentle hazel]

Hahaha I see Tharivol and I am sad 😢.

That's all I needed in S1 to complete my team

[gentle hazel]

Even got their Artifacts 😳... Never gotten them once in one Banner 😭.

People be having luck anyhow

[astral heath]

Ah yess I meant tharivol not ivelios

I use tharivol as my applier. And ivellios is has not decided to entier my acc. Yet

[gentle hazel]

Nah forget him, he would be changed

[astral heath]

ye. is premptsa always good?

[gentle hazel]

Yeah, but will be replaced S2 by Bernade. So don't scroll her

[astral heath]

wowzer

i mean even if i do. we can reset at the start of every season righht?

[gentle hazel]

Reason why it's super harsh for F2P lol to decide on using Master Scrolls anyhow

[gentle hazel]

Nope only S1 I guess 🤔

[astral heath]

oh sadge

they changed that. old version was all 1st week of all season is reset week

[sturdy lantern]

hmm u get more scrolls since reborn

[gentle hazel]

I don't 😢. It's easier for he spenders to get more scrolls not a casual F2P to be honest

[toxic oak]

anyone know skill timings/placement for s2 Alton summon team? i have very similar stats and inspirations to two other players and they are somehow pulling 50-70m more than me lol

im using the timing and placements from Skratch's video and can only pull 470ish

[sturdy lantern]

wow it's so far

idk if i have keep a screen for this one

try to found it on youtube

[real meadow]

any suggestions for this fight?

[unique oxide]

Can anyone explain how this team is dealing so much damage

[gentle hazel]

Artifact... Premsta deals high damage, Sintrellia duplicate the bird and buff it. Ladehila is straight DPS + 1 biggest Summon. That's why the Damage is insane there

More of 3 summons + 3 Necrosis attackers with healing + shield

[jaunty wolf]

Thats not even high dmg. But premsa does derivative dmg (this means dmg cant crit but gets buffed by enlightment), she makes summons burn targets around them with derivative dmg thats 4-5 summons on map and all of them burn with permsas derivative dmg. Sintrelia buff summons to do more dmg and clone one of them bird. Ledhalia summons demon and demon does aoe dmg and single target... Premsa also summons skills to attack target they fly around enemy and also do derivative dmg...

Should see what some other teams can do

[jaunty wolf]

there is always "more than 1 way to skin cat"... meaning you could do different things and clear it. Your problem there is too low dmg, not enough resistence/controll imunity and not enough controll. Losania is not really dps she is enabler for frost. Not sure torrin is enough for that to not get controll. 2 erganders do aoe taunt (controll effect), Elcebre does charm (controll effect force you to attack random target usually your team). 2 voresh do enough dmg to make it feel painful and apply buff prohibition. How you counter that is your choice. More dmg to kill fast, resistence, controll and debuff imunity... 🤷‍♂️

try replacing gardus with vidimir and vinyara with thia and cehck it that works better

[jaunty wolf]

and try some of them 🤷‍♂️ 😅

[stiff sand]

Oh… I didn’t know that you can do that. 🤔🧐

[low citrus]

Was Artifact does Dragon Lady want besides her sig I'm obviously not getting lol

[acoustic fable]

Hour glass for example 🙂

[rare parcel]

She’s a good witches remains applier, Atk artifact for her passive or hourglass, horn can als be sometimes nice for passive stats and her healing

[azure sluice]

Depending on the other heroes, she should be good with Misty Conch because her battle skill is quite fast and certain talent speed up her ultimate

[rare parcel]

Torrin needs no one between him and the tank

Otherwise he can't support the tank with his passive skill

[unique oxide]

Also tell the artifacts to put on each of them

[azure sluice]

Give the epic Banner to Garius.

[rare parcel]

You need someone applying Witches Remains. Usually Zharloth or Voresh are good for that

If you can't survive think of dumping one of the damage dealers for Vinyara

[unique oxide]

What team in general should i use for this ?

This is my roster

[astral saddle]

Hi, where should I pull using the orange thing? Here?

[azure sluice]

Save up 300 dices first before pulling so you get pity

[azure sluice]

First, you need to categorize by elemental pair so it's easier to see your roster. 2nd, use frost with Rava and Vidimir because they are your current best aoe

[sturdy lantern]

aschetius or guina inspi i'll choose

u think play wild ?

not really ^^'

i don't have ozul, and my team wild, isn't a big team ^^'

oh chaos shadows, my bad ^^' i read shadow team x)

in season 4 actually , burn team karf durem aschetius paixton synarell work very well in CC ^^

no, i have perkunte but not his artif, so i don't have pull for alaura, i've pull for paixton 😄

and now i need aschetius artif 🤣

[unique oxide]

How do i beat this ?

He is really annoying

[rare parcel]

Put torrin in instead of Sintrellia. Time him so e give invisiblity when the colossal tries to eat you

Perkunte is quite needed for Thunderbolt to start doing real damage

Aschetius can be circumvented with Beags or other Burn Epics/Rares so I'd definitely go for Perkunte before Aschetius

Gore injector and fan work great on Perkunte as well

[unique oxide]

Thanks man

[rare parcel]

@unique oxide try replacing Sintrellia with Vinyara and focus annoying enemies with her ultimate

[astral saddle]

Does it carry over? And if gold spark happened is it one of the featured unit?

[rare parcel]

Gold spark is legendary hero of the pool

Pity doesn't carry over

[azure sluice]

Honestly wild isn't that great, Aschetius is unnecessary for burn, and while Perkunte is great for PvP, thunderbolt doesn't works out for S3 chief challenge and final boss but at least came back in S4. So either Guinavivre artifact or Perkunte.

[sturdy lantern]

wrong aschetius is needed for CC

[astral saddle]

Then I wont pull for now?

[sturdy lantern]

i admit in s2 and s3 we don't needed him, but in s4 he is necessary

[azure sluice]

Which season? Because even in S4 the main dps is still Durem. Unless you have multiple inspiration which kinda too far since if bcfre is that big of a whale, they wouldn't ask for tips on banner in the first place.

[sturdy lantern]

S4

[azure sluice]

Honestly still not necessary to me. I still dealt 400M without Paixton nor Aschetius and as I said, if they are big enough whale to gun for billions of damage, they wouldn't need to ask for tips in the first place 😂

[azure sluice]

Yeah, just save for now. How much is your budget? If you are f2p you would need to be careful where you pulls because the final boss would need at least 6 good team or at least one very strong team

[astral saddle]

F2p, who should i set my sights on?

[rare parcel]

We have teams with Beags and Zraacs and no Aschetius doing over 1B... So Aschetius definitely not needed

[rare parcel]

Lelwanis and Summoners

[sturdy lantern]

with only durem i5 ? and all rest i0 ?

[rare parcel]

Durem i5, Karf i5, Paixton i2, Zraacs, Syn i1

[sturdy lantern]

yeahhh my karf only i1 🙁 he don't want come anymore x)

[rare parcel]

For me as well^^

[sturdy lantern]

paix i0, syn i0 ^^'

[unique oxide]

I think there can be way better team , please help

[azure sluice]

Honestly for vortex summon is the worst team. And scrolled hero skill matters a lot. A scrolled epic can be better than unscrolled legendary.
And for vortex, the good team at S1 is wild or dauntless team.

[azure sluice]

I don't even have Paixton and gotten 400M. So I assume when I have Paixton I can deal much more than with Majtan.

[rare parcel]

definitely

Paixton i2 is also a great dmg boost

[azure sluice]

My suggestion is to get Lelwanis so you can deal enough for the final boss, sacrificing your placement in vortex. After that if S2 still exist, you can then get one of the vortex team like ice blast.

[azure sluice]

My problem is more that Majtan passive makes her stand in place at the start of the turn so the Zraacs team would need an overhaul in position.

[azure sluice]

Tbh it's more that they kinda need more investmest, like Khrysos in your example. If all team get their exclusive support I'd say wild is 7th, and there's argument that Burn at least don't need Aschetius to be competitive, while Wild would need both exclusive, and maybe the S5 familiar, to be as competitive.
But if you also have Khrysos as well then your wild team would be strong then 😋

[elder plank]

Does anyone did any math on best skills for AOE and Single-Target pet? Especially regarding Vortex. How does the perfect pet look like?
For Tressym for sure "Golem skill" (5th one) -> 5% aoe dmg

[sturdy lantern]

it's a good question for @jaunty wolf 😄

[jaunty wolf]

Dont tag me i didnt max even 1 pet 😅🤣😂

[sturdy lantern]

only for ' maths ' i tagged u 🤣

it's enough 😄

[tidal beacon]

Hey i kinda s**ck in the arena 🙁
Any help for my team comp? Here's my roster and team I'm currently using in arena

Was trying the shadow team which is meta, but can't figure out good team

[rare parcel]

Language please…

[tidal beacon]

Ty in advance for any suggestions

[tidal beacon]

Noted

[sturdy lantern]

The positioning is already off; if I take two or three heroes who attack in an area, I'll kill all your heroes instantly.

[rare parcel]

Depends mainly on what you want to play

Hvitar best in line or next to the line of your tank

Other dmg dealers spread apart so you can kind of avoid star shaped enemy ultimates

Crowd control and debuffs are key

Astaion and aladiah are super useful in arena

[tidal beacon]

Well i put hvitar in the corner to protect her from melee dmg dealers like nastjenka or smth like that

[rare parcel]

I mainly built around 1-2 dps and the rest is support/tank

[rare parcel]

You can avoid that by outrun another unit in front or when attacking rotate your heroes

That will become mandatory in higher PvP

[tidal beacon]

Yeah... That's the thing. I'm lacking a lot of supports. That's why i went almost all in for support banner

But the team I'm running is ok. But lacking against shadow teams. Other teams without shadow heroes i can beat not that hard as shadow because of Phaessa. She's pretty good in this comp to slow down enemy

[rare parcel]

Phaessa with Aladiah should be pretty nice

The Atk down lands easier and aladiah with speed can put frozen on enemies

With fast frost you should be good

Also I can highly recommend using Ripekas as tank in arena

[sharp epoch]

Help with this please s2 level 151

[gentle hazel]

Eurion/Lossenia/Auster/Vidimir/Torrin

Torrin or Oggok depending on if you need more healing or prevent dieing at once

[azure sluice]

Pure AoE definitely not golem skill. The best is

• 10% crit damage
  6% vs def penalty
  1% up to 6 stacks
  6% for 10s or something
  5% aoe
  And opponent -10% aoe damage for survivability
  The one that bypass defense is bad because defense of vortex, cc, and final boss are already low, they just gain more damage. That talent is only good in dungeon and pvp sadly

[tidal beacon]

@rare parcel Tvm for suggestions!!! And good luck in your dsg grind 💪🏼

[ivory wedge]

Season 2, continental challenge is coming. Are there any teams in those (got summoner, ice blast and frost done)

[hearty pumice]

Which build is best for paixton for CC if i play with zraacs ?

[rare parcel]

Enlightment

[rare parcel]

Best look on YouTube

I think Burn and summons did very well

[hearty pumice]

But only enlightenment without res/acc ?

[rare parcel]

Would be my guess. But you could also do some res and Atk for secondary stats

[ocean drift]

Hi, can somebody help guide me? I’m now in S2 and my burn team lost to other similar burn teams but with much lower inspirations. I don’t know what I am doing wrong.

[rare parcel]

First thing I noticed is that your karf doesn’t have his set piece activated

Your durem needs way more crit rate and Atk in the beginning

Also the set would be best to be all mythic or dmg set

Durem also profits from some accuracy (if possible) himself

[north girder]

Hi All ! Any suggestion pour th next team / banner to have ? Season 1

Ty for help !

[rare parcel]

Depends on what you want to focus on. Besides summon you have nearly no good starts

Generally I would skip frost for now as well as poison

I’d say strengthening dauntless but that’s more personal preference

[north girder]

Ty for your answer. Im a beginner so I dont what I have to do.

IVe 300 summons for now.

Radiance aren’t Good too ? So which banner can you advice ?

For content, I dont have finish all Difficulty on donjon. Im stuck but I think is just stuff.

For Vortex I make 30M

Fey i’m in lvl 170. I think it’s where Im thé worst With Pvp.

[gentle hazel]

Just focus on Necrosis and Dauntless banner only on S1

[rare parcel]

If you want Felosia is on eof the top supporters to have so I would go for a copy on her

Other than that you can do good with Summons in Vortex later on and Duantless helps with Arena as well

Nastjenka and some others are good nukes there 😉

[rare parcel]

i just sent you a DM with my favourite profile pic^^

[north girder]

So priority I have to go Felosia and Nastjenka ?

[rare parcel]

In my opinion yes

Felosia is really crucial as supporter

Nastjenka the damage dealer of dauntless and confers frost in PvP

[torn sandal]

I'm looking to make a derivitave damage team for vortex but can't figure out who does that kind of damage. Anyone help? Unless there is a different team comp I should be going for

[sturdy lantern]

wild with flora

[torn sandal]

Dang don't think I got her yet

[gentle hazel]

Saw it... Thanks a bunch 😁😁

[sturdy lantern]

https://tenor.com/view/chicken-gif-7202518248086882735

[elder plank]

If you play with Zraacs, then ignore Enlightment and build him as tank (~70khp and ~3k def) or you will not surive

I'm doing 1-1.1B in begining of week 2

[gentle hazel]

Bro wasn't tagged along 🤣

[real meadow]

I'm trying to run wildfire pillar 12 and keep getting clowned on. yes, I know my serpent statue isn't ranked up, i ran out of essence. but are there any lineup or stat changes i cam make here to help?

[sturdy lantern]

do u have twitch or durango or vicana ?

[real meadow]

I have Vicana, that's it

[sturdy lantern]

try to switch sigrid for vicana, u'll do more toxin damage with lothair

if u have the hourglass, put this artif on corrin

[real meadow]

didn't help, ergander keeps getting melted. I guess I need to stack a lot of resist on him?

[sturdy lantern]

ur heroes dies when she pillar ult ?

[real meadow]

bro I don't get even past the first encounter with Frurbath

I have garbage for toxin

[sturdy lantern]

mmmh, u need more survive, or more dps ?

[real meadow]

kinda both

I'm re-gearing Ergander now tho

here he is post-retooling

[sturdy lantern]

after many season pillars are so easy ^^' i try to remember what i used in season 1 and i think it was wild team

[real meadow]

I have even worse for Wild

Rhast(?) and Errich

only legendaries

the worst problem is that i've spent all my scrolls on ranking up dauntless and summons

[gentle hazel]

Use that Epic Bow shooter .... That his ULT shoots 3 constant arrow in straight line to help Lothair

[real meadow]

I don't have Durango or twitch

Sure

I thought ergander was my tank?

Okay, so what stats and armor do I use

This is what I'm using on him atm

I do

Eli?

Or sigrid

Ok, Shink

Idk

I don't

Tonalnan?

Okay so Ergander, Journ, Adolphus, Jalathea and Tonal?

Im just trying to clear wildfire pillar

Okay so who needs to support Tonal?

Or is this fine?

Mkay

I had no issues surviving with that loadout but I'll need more dps

So lemme try critstacking

[alpine yarrow]

Can anyone tell me which are the wisest to put for each buff? ( i do also going to summon for nastjenka in 3 days)

[fallen spruce]

It's stack, you can have all the buff, just put random useless hero that meet the requirements there

[alpine yarrow]

Alr

Thx

[real meadow]

this fey corridor level is stonewalling me super hard - no matter what team comp i throw at it, I fail horribly. I can post roster for ideas

[real meadow]

etc, the list goes on but these are my principal heroes

ah, I kept building them for accuracy to inflict debuffs

yes, I'm aware of their synergy, but what concerns me is their gearing

okay

I'm not sure what this is called but I'm fairly certain it's not in S1

Ancestor's Candle and the Heart are the only 2 i ahve

okay, I got Thia to 380 or so Resist

ah, so I use that traitline okay

Torrin is at 334, best I could squeeze

I'm at 269

it's pretty brutal

Voresh I was able to get a stun set in

But Ripekas will be more difficult

maybe Vinyara to snipe Elecebre's ulti?

okay, I had remains on him but i figured it would be a better payout with voresh

then what do I put on Thia?

actually what about Zhar'loth?

so this is now my current setup

everyone has at least 200+ Resist

welp the team's in 5 minutes deep on this fight and so far no losses. just can't kill anyone XD

swap vinyara for something like Sigrid?

Thia does but it's single target

Sigrid or Dane are both good options

that's just his passive

he inflicts fear and healing prohib with battle skill

3x3 square for BS

but it's fast

it all comes down to RNG gear sucking

yeah with Dane i just die faster

I hate this stupid game mode

that might actually force me out of any kind of competitive rankings

I had everyone in backline so they could get the resist bonus

it didn't matter, raw damage was overwhelming

I give up for now

[gentle hazel]

Change Vinyara to Eurion so they focus on him, so Ripekas can do his attacks and not be stopped.

Welp, you will need someone like Felosia for Damage reduction because of those 2 Ergander and Control Immunity too.... Remove Thia and Vorresh and use Rava/Vidimir you need more damage, or else that team will finish you off completely

[gentle hazel]

Give Rift Hourglass to Torrin... Give Ripekas, Crown of Unclean.

[severe knoll]

Which mine top 3 legendary please? 🤔🤗

And which heroes to use on Neptune?

[real meadow]

Tried this, my DPS still died faster due to double voresh nukes

[gentle hazel]

If you have Zharloth use him manual to Elecebree side and Ripekas with insane Accuracy

If they still died... Then probably either gear issues

[real meadow]

I guess it's gear issues, because I still can't fight my way through it

I literally can't play the game because of RNG, what madness is this

[gentle hazel]

Wait to get more Pyschicore

[thorn oracle]

Can anyone pls help with s1 fey 170 team . Thx

[dense plinth]

Could someone offer some guidance with Fey 279 please? The guides i'm seeing all have stun sets, which worked fine last season for this fight, not having any luck currently. have all the relevent epics built out.

i do have Tiamat artifact

instead of Thia?

[acoustic fable]

Try to experiment with positioning, e.g. put Eurion out of the middle to far right or left.

[dense plinth]

woot ty

[gentle hazel]

If you had Ripekas would have said use Ripekas/Ghul'ende there

[shell prairie]

Just FYI - breaking affinity and adding Guin built full damage to an all Necro support team let several people auto through the last set of Fey Trials. Don't need her exclusive either - the spear works. Bet that would work for regular Fey as well.

[astral heath]

Help me

S1 fey 151

[rare parcel]

Who is your dmg dealer?

You can try to get Ripekas as tank in front and then go Ghulende and Tamar for some dmg and anti buff

[sturdy lantern]

need some controls ^^'

[acoustic fable]

Yepp, I‘d swap in Tamar and Nastjenka instead of Oggok and Torrin 🙂 Too much healing

[astral heath]

No ripekas. I have all epics and rares

[rare parcel]

If you don't go for 5-affinity suitable other heroes are: Sagomir, Eurion, Frurbath

Or keep Garius in front^^

[astral heath]

I only have 3 affinity unlocked for now.

Updoot. I used Tamar as suggested. Removed oggok and Mithra. Swappen for iola. Pretty much stun cycling

It worked

[real meadow]

stun juggling is a hilarious strat

[thorn oracle]

Thx it worked had them

[real meadow]

Trying to use this lineup but i keep getting overwhelmed in Pillar of Resplendence 6 (S1)
Any gearing advice?

[gentle hazel]

Give Witches Remains to Tharivol.

Remove Tamar and use Vani or Schalter

[real meadow]

Okay, I'll try that. Thanks!

[gentle hazel]

If that doesn't work because of healing then change Sagomir to Garius for more healings

If Damage is not your issue, then what I gave should be enough

[real meadow]

Still not working, even with garius. I legit have no idea what's going wrong here. Schaltar is dying first because the game's AI focuses him down for some reason.

current loadout

my DPS all do decent enough damage, but they all die because squish and the healers are too slow I guess

Hence the skill haste

[thorn oracle]

Can anyone help with this fey 192 pls ? Thx

[real meadow]

This is gonna come down to gearing i think. You have a really good lineup but that's a lot of control effects. Better stock up on resist gear

[sudden bramble]

I put Ripekas at top front line with torrin below. To shield him.

[thorn oracle]

They have 240+ resist on all

[jaunty wolf]

maybe if you show positioning and what was in that fight would have some idea. But your original setup looks supperior to all this suggestions. Maybe garius in it would work better than sagomir but that setup had stun, remove debuff, attack penalty, it also apply deffense down as aoe on all targets instead as it is with tarivol... So you had better setup that you did your self. Why it was not enough depends need to see fight

[jaunty wolf]

also tarivoll works better with wine of dragon blod artifact than silverstar horseshoe... When he ulty for 10 sec he can do 1 or 3 hits based on how high is his crit chance (higher better, and i mean over 100)

Attack speed and crit chance on him unless single target fight and he use WR then its crit chance and accuracy

[real meadow]

it's the Pillar of Trials level 255 boss

[real meadow]

would I lose out on too much damage if I went garius+sagomir?

sago is unscrolled sadly

I survived but I ran out of time lmao

400 Acc Iola go brrrr

oh i was running stun set

Pillars

the brotherhood one?

CLEARED IT

had less than 30s left on the timer but I did it

my posts aren't going through but Iola applying WR helped

[jaunty wolf]

problem with it from what i remember would be if you put too much survivability you clear initial stage but then on boss dont have enough dmg. And if you go too much dmg could die in initial stages. Aoe speed up initial stages but does not do much on boss and other way around... So kind of need to find balance that would work Sagomir heal is weak, but he have taunts and can make mess in enemy team. Also sagomir charge in to enemy and then your schalter could end up main target depends how game react to sagomir going back row... But am here saying what i remember from S1 and rest is guessing.

attack penalty, silence maybe stun sometimes... Aura is nice 18% attack in all battles but well its also low bonus...

[real meadow]

Brotherhood increases all ally elemental damage by 15% on 3piece

[jaunty wolf]

remove buffs and put attack penalty aoe with low CD

like i said you had superior build that you did your self to suggestions that you getting probably just need to adjust it to work or replace tank

[real meadow]

I have abysmal luck when it comes to this game, it could just be that

[jaunty wolf]

nah when you have solid idea for team and it dont work need to slow down and identify problem cant just asume this or that... and then try to fix problem

am trying to tell you you had better idea than they give you just need to figure out why its not working and try to fix it

could be sagomir that is making your schalter die, or you could replace shchater...

also like i said not optimal build on tarivol

[real meadow]

tharivol can go so many different ways it seems, he feels super versatile as a dps

[jaunty wolf]

as high as possible crit chance if you can hit 200% cool. Attack speed...

[jaunty wolf]

yeah tank can also go dps builds but dont mean tank will stay alive...

tarivol benefit a lot from crit chance

[real meadow]

I have tharivol at about 100% give or take

[jaunty wolf]

this means difference between attacking 3 times for 10 sec or attacking 1 time

more he attacks more nastjenka does follow up attack with her ulti

[real meadow]

oh that's what he's doing

[jaunty wolf]

so this make nastjenka do more dmg

so this means when tarivol attack 80% chance to attak with him shooting feather

[real meadow]

what would you suggest for a team to clear Grave of Curse and Rot 20?

Rot especially seems to glitch out on me and doesn't release my tank

[jaunty wolf]

tarivol need to go 2 sec before her cos he have 2 sec getting ready animation not really attacking untill it ends so 2 sec before her reason why they give him ulti to be 12 sec not 10 this animation is 2 sec...

[jaunty wolf]

curse need vinyara and need to be timed right cos she also reduce boss energy so his rotation can be extended (slowed down) by 1-4 sec need to adjust timings with what you have... Eurion as tank and well good dps usually that would mean tarivol with WR high accuracy and crit chance, and nastjenka with enough dmg...

[real meadow]

so I break elemental affinity?

[jaunty wolf]

curse can be done in lots of ways depends what you can pull off including dauntless

[jaunty wolf]

you can try to do it without breaking would be nice if you had something that dps with affinity but well without vinyara you have to do insane dmg... and have zaffi

[real meadow]

yeah...no chance of that lmao

I've got a summon banner i'm working on throwing my helios at but I was gonna pick Felosia over Zeffi

[jaunty wolf]

skill at 6 sec give boss buffs

[rare parcel]

Without skill upgrade. With skill upgrade it's 100% for Dauntless allies^^

[real meadow]

Tharivol's ult is max scrolled

[jaunty wolf]

well cant SS its different on S4 but but boss 18 sec skill remove 1 or 2 buffs from team if he have buffs on him self does bonus dmg, if you dont have buffs does 50% more dmg so well can kill easy...

vinyara remove buffs from boss, put attack penalty, and shield tank. But she also reduce boss energy so that 18 sec skill can be 19-23 sec based on when vinyara use ulti

basically was making vinyara hit her ulti at 13 or 14 sec from what i remember so this means i need to extend her rotation to be 13/19 or 14/20. Some ppl used it before boss 12 sec skill so he dont get big shield. But well depends on your haste when you can use it think ppl probably did 11 sec. So this means now you make boss slow down by 5 sec. and setup would need to be 11/23 for you not to lose sync.

Eurion could use ulty around 17/23. (shield on him,deffense up and give protection to rest of team)

if you for example ulti at 11

reduce boss energy to previou bar 6s skill. So boss is slow down by 5 sec. Meaning his 18 sec is not 23. Need to adjust timings acording to when she ulti and how much she reduced, she always reduce to previous bar. so can be 1-5 sec reduction

this is also good thing cos 18 CD can be hard to keep up unless you have haste on all heroes. So you slow down boss to what you need XD

[restive token]

@rare parcel this is my lineup… thanks in advance

[rare parcel]

if you plan to go for another good DPS in PvE and PvP definitely Premtsa, if you want a tank for both go for Ripekas

Try to do the missions as you can get Eurion (also another really good tank)

irzillas is needed for a Summon School team (together with Lelwanis if you can safe up to 270 dice and then pull on her banner)

[real meadow]

@dry citrus this is what i'm using and it cleared literally just the once and now it won't do it again DX

[rare parcel]

You need a Witches Remains applier!

[dry citrus]

certainly

[rare parcel]

Or Crown of the Unclean!

[jaunty wolf]

pilars ?

[real meadow]

who would I put that on tho?

[rare parcel]

No team without def down debuff!

[restive token]

vinyara is good?

[rare parcel]

Tharivol

[dry citrus]

let me build a team that beats rot (im in s4) but ill use your heroes

[real meadow]

Rot20

[rare parcel]

She is but if you don't have Witches Remains use one of her inspirations to buy that artifact

You can always freely uninspire your heroes and exchange artifacts for them

For now Witches Remains is most important to get

[real meadow]

Tharivol setup with WR

[dry citrus]

paradude with the tips! wuhu

[restive token]

oh thanks

[jaunty wolf]

what actually happens when you run fight? tank get eaten and die and then you keep losing rest of team or ?

[dry citrus]

give me 5-10 min and I get you a winning setup, Sen

[rare parcel]

You probably need more Accuracy

[real meadow]

Tank gets eaten, dps happens, he gets back out, tank gets eaten later in the fight, suddenly he doesn't come back out and the boss rotates to my dps

Attack+Acc over crit then?

[dry citrus]

you have puppeteer set in your season?

[real meadow]

yee

[rare parcel]

Skill timing: Tharivol first, 1.8 seconds behind him is nastjenka ultimate, then Shaltar

[dry citrus]

your dmg dealers are nasty and shaltar - the rest are just there to cheer them on

[rare parcel]

All need same rotational speed

[jaunty wolf]

thing is this mean that you need to dps boss when he eat tank. so boss spit him out but when i was in S1 we had bug were tank dont return. Most of ppl bin clearing fight with torrin and thia. Invisibility... But can be done different ways. I just dont know if bug with tank being spit out of map is still there or not

[real meadow]

new statline with Puppeteer's set

[restive token]

so at which hero I have to give that artifact?

[rare parcel]

best would be multiple times hitting ultiamte heroes with enough accuracy

But keep in mind under "details" enabled that "Derivative Damage" doesn't apply debuffs

[jaunty wolf]

supports or enablers that do dmg with ulti. Give them high accuracy and that artifact and when they ulti they put deffense reduction on enemy. Usually if ulti does dmg 3 or more times its better higher chance it will be applied

[restive token]

so in my case ladehlia or zadok?

[rare parcel]

Best epic heroes are: Zharloth, Voresh

For Witches Remains

[jaunty wolf]

for example zharlot... apply it as aoe hit 5 times basically

[jaunty wolf]

zadok could work he hit 3 times with ulti and have low cd ulti do to mobs dying recharge his ulti... just need high accuracy depending on fight 150-320 or something like that every fight have information about fight...

can click on stuff to see extra info and it also give idea what to aim for to make fight work

[real meadow]

this setup was able to clear no problems

Remains too stronk

[jaunty wolf]

sometimes smallest things make difference is its 10 try 1 clear or if its 10 try 10 clears

[real meadow]

this game is an enigma lol

[jaunty wolf]

nah it have RNG and it have setup that counter enemy skills... try to reduce RNG and well setup good for fight

some fights will always have bit of RNG so still could fail on some

[real meadow]

now i gotta figure out how to clear Curse 20

[restive token]

I think that for the moment is the best I can do

[real meadow]

woah, very nice for a brand-new account

Lad+Sintrel+Zhar'loth is gonna carry you

[restive token]

really? oh thanks god

[dry citrus]

@real meadow

gear not optimized, just showing that it can certainly be done with some discounted stuff

[real meadow]

I'm still autoplay scrub - timers scare me

[dry citrus]

gotta learn timers, mate. Not super difficult and certainly needed for some content

[rare parcel]

Once saved to your loadout you're good to go^^

[real meadow]

fair, guess I gotta work on gearing for this Curse 20 team. I'll be relying on y'all's assistance again for that 😅

[dry citrus]

vinyara = easy curse 20

[real meadow]

the hard part is keeping up buffs on my wee homies so they don't get murked

[dry citrus]

timers 😉

[real meadow]

how can I avoid the dispel buff from the boss?

just stack buffs or run the mythic that makes all my buffs undispellable on all my dps?

[dry citrus]

which season are you in?

[real meadow]

S1 baby

this one

[dry citrus]

dreadful item

[rare parcel]

Never really understood it

[dry citrus]

@real meadow - you got vinyara for free right?

[real meadow]

yes and I am eternally grateful for this mercy 🙏

[dry citrus]

ok easy then

[real meadow]

Vinyara stats (Hourglass not visible)

[rare parcel]

perfect

[real meadow]

running this as a general-purpose mythic armor for helm

[rare parcel]

Best only used for heroes that actually provide shields

[real meadow]

Vinyara does tho?

[rare parcel]

Vinyara can waer that (her Battleskill gives shields)

[real meadow]

yes, I meant for Vinyara I was using it as a general-purpose item, not just for gearing this boss

Lossenia is my WR holder for this

[rare parcel]

hmm she can be okay with that

But I'd rather go for 3 set piece and some other mythic for her if you have the opportunity

[real meadow]

this is the 3-set i'm using, what other mythic would you suggest?

the accuracy to atk one?

[rare parcel]

Either carnage gloves or chest with increasing atkk

Also I would give her the blue set that gives ult meter to all heroes of the same element

Her ultimate has 16seconds when fully scrolled

[real meadow]

ah, got it

[rare parcel]

So she is quite fast and has good timer also for the set

[real meadow]

okay, Vinyara in Puppeteer's is looking like this

I just hope its enough HP and atk

[rare parcel]

She's not much of an attacker but really good supporter

Ult meter manipulation and debuff applier (frozen and atk down).

Also her shields are really useful for frontline defenders to get additional survivabiltiy

[real meadow]

Do y'all recommend Torrin or Estella as my primary healer here?

[rare parcel]

Torrin can be really good for helping tanks survive, heal and also invisibility

[real meadow]

My Eurion is plenty tanky imo

[rare parcel]

Definitely!

Enl is too much for perfection and he can also be used to apply atk down with his battle skill

Overall he's tanky at heart!

[real meadow]

True, so would I swap to Tundra set for the 3-piece then?

[rare parcel]

Either Tundra or Ancestral Protection

Both nice for him

[real meadow]

Kinda stuck at a crossroads here - I can sacrifice pure tankiness to make sure his accuracy is higher for the battle skill but I don't know if my healer is gonna be able to keep up

[dry citrus]

@real meadow

[rare parcel]

If you can't manage around 250 Acc without sacrificing too much def/hp stats don't woory about it for now

At least that's what I'd do

[real meadow]

Gotcha, thanks. This is my Estella. Rocking Power of Tides because I used it to clear AB11 earlier

[rare parcel]

I'm off for today

See you tomorrow

[dry citrus]

adios paradude

[rare parcel]

And I'm sure the others will still help you out like sillydilly did 🙂

[real meadow]

Thank you again so much for your help!

[sturdy lantern]

it's my sentence that 😄

na'night @rare parcel

[dry citrus]

yeah im off too, but above you can see that you can do almost the same as vs rot

just swap in vinyara for Catherine

and use my timers

[real meadow]

yeah i'm gonna give it a shot, thanks!

[dry citrus]

you could time garius to heal before the boss ulti, especially if he's wearing gatekeeper staff, but my team didnt need it to survive in my test

[jaunty wolf]

was thinking you already tried with vinyara XD

[real meadow]

Vinyara works effortlessly, it's the dps of the team that keeps messing with me XD

as usual, Schaltar dies first so I gotta figure out how to increase his survival

[dry citrus]

you have gatekeeper's staff?

[real meadow]

yeah it's maxed and on Garius

[dry citrus]

then you're fine

[real meadow]

Garius

[dry citrus]

timer 17/20 on him - garius tanks vs the boss

[jaunty wolf]

just means that buff could end up impossible to remove with skills that remove buff XD

[real meadow]

still getting wiped here, timers are nice but boss is still dealing like 80% HP damage even with my insane dps

[dry citrus]

who's dying?

[real meadow]

Schaltar first, then Garius for some reason

[jaunty wolf]

there is reason i said eurion XD

[dry citrus]

ok might want to remove ancestral from garius ( a lot of burst dmg from boss ulti) and then put on a def % gear chest or gloves on shaltar

[real meadow]

yeah they don't have buffs

[dry citrus]

should be fine then

[jaunty wolf]

if you dont make it work try replacing schalter with torrin, and garius with eurion. Keep timer as you use from his image and add only 17/20 on eurion

[real meadow]

trying Schaltar with this

he lived but garius and Tharivol got ganked XD

[jaunty wolf]

can bet his setup will not work for you for only 1 reason his psi core is way higher than yours 😛

[real meadow]

the max hp reduction debuff is brutal

[dry citrus]

well if the timers are set right, vinyara should be landing attack down, removing boss buffs AND garius covering with AOE shield

[jaunty wolf]

it is brutal but his setup make boss do less dmg (vinyara remove buffs from boss, and put attack penalty boss does 50% less dmg) also his garius is supposed to drop shield before boss ulti. When boss does dmg to shield he dont reduce your hp

[dry citrus]

you should be surviving unless your heroes are complete glass canons

[jaunty wolf]

but compare psi core show him your psi core on account you did this test and he can show you his psi core

pretty sure you comparing maxed psi core to not even half

[real meadow]

I'm gettin there, I'm doing fairly well

I've got the 5set bonus

unlocked, at least, not maxed

timers are working well, but vinyara wasn't stripping all his buffs so I had to swap leader auras

[rare parcel]

Time Vinyara a little bit later. She can remove all buffs but the boss applies them one after another

[real meadow]

see that's what I thought, but the timer is applying correctly. sometimes the game just ignores it XD

I wish I could just stream my screen and show you

[jaunty wolf]

vinyara can be like that if game tell you need 280 you go 420 to make her work right XD

problem when its only 1 hit on ulti so sometimes dont work fully right

[real meadow]

the problem is that tharivol is now my weak link so I gotta figure him out

had to lose a bit of accuracy for survivability but I think this should help

[jaunty wolf]

tarivol does multiple attacks so he have really high chance to apply WR, like 10 sec of attacks 1-3 per hit

so with him usually if game say 280 to apply WR he probably can do it with 150 😅 but still you dont want to go that low

[real meadow]

I just saw him get 1tapped from full for no reason XD at the boss's 50%

[jaunty wolf]

when boss ulti ?

[real meadow]

swapping to this config, screw Eurion he can fend for himself XD

[jaunty wolf]

damn you try to up his hp and resistence ? XD

i would not set them up like that cos if you position like that eurion will be invisible and tarivol will be visible when torrin ulti

[real meadow]

ah

[jaunty wolf]

target that is in front of torrin dont get invisible

usually you want tank to be in front of torrin

so everyone other is invisible but tank is there boss see only him

[real meadow]

I'm not certain that matters in Curse tho?

it's an aoe

OH the buff Invisibility can count

[jaunty wolf]

not 100% sure to be honest but there is chance it could make problem and he gets focused or something

[real meadow]

homie just keeps dying LMAO

genuinely at a loss here

[jaunty wolf]

think boss still do ranged attack there as bassic attack even to it looks like he dont XD

so try to put torrin where is your vinyara XD

[real meadow]

rip, ran out of time

[jaunty wolf]

how close to killing ?

[real meadow]

not close enough sadly

Tharivol dying so quickly really makes it a pain

I need more Defense Up or something

[jaunty wolf]

you changed torrins position ?

to stand where vinyara is on that image behind eurion ?

[jaunty wolf]

ok timer on eurion ulti is 17/20?

[real meadow]

I'm literally at full on "It can't be helped" mode here

[jaunty wolf]

and he dies with this setup also ?

[real meadow]

lemme change his talents

gonna use this talent path for now, see if that buff lingers long enough to protect from the full raw damage

this on Torrin as well, to really make sure i'm covered in buffs

[jaunty wolf]

forgot to ask do you by chance maybe have zaffi ?

[real meadow]

Nope!

[jaunty wolf]

and you said no felosia in other chat 🙁

[real meadow]

I'm fighting with sharpened sticks and a bad attitude over here dawg

THAT'S A CLEAR!

[jaunty wolf]

well at least something worked

[sharp epoch]

Any ideas anyone s2 meander lv 192

[jaunty wolf]

when you get guin you will not care about that fight much XD

skip even vinyara things die XD

[real meadow]

bro i'm literally a victim of RNG, now the buffs aren't properly being stripped

[jaunty wolf]

yeah told you up vinyara accuracy as much as possible maybe even do what paranoid said set her bit slower to 13/20 or to 14/21

notices that she was striping more reliable if you slow down a little after boss skill at 12 if you do it early tend to not work more offte for some reason that and high accuracy as high as possible

[real meadow]

Vinyara is rocking 326 ACC before aura buff, it's insane

game is just jank

[jaunty wolf]

hmmmm thats single target dmg and its not evne that strong. And enemy have lots of controll, buff prohibition and healing reduction... so you could have problem healing tanks cos you kill to slow... not sure what options you have but usually if you have fast aoe to kill 1 vores and 1 elcebre you could clear it reducing to 1 vores make them not do deadly dmg.

[jaunty wolf]

no vinyara is like that can end up even with double of recomended accuracy still fail to apply effects sometimes just something messy about it...

amazing hero but well this can be annoying

[real meadow]

yeah i'm getting inconsistent results

that's definitely not appealing from a gameplay perspective

[jaunty wolf]

for that fay strong aoe (frost could work depends on heroes, poison if lothair could work)
Of if you can't kill fast need to adjust stuff. Add control imunity or remove controll effect on team...

[jaunty wolf]

you will have to get used to it... doing fughts one run you get 1,5b next run you do 800m, next run 1,2... and you know you can do 1,6-1,9. But RNG trolling hard half day XD

[sharp epoch]

I have alot of heroes. Which aoe would you recommend

[jaunty wolf]

losania+ hviter, or losania + vidimir. Or durago+twitch+lothair they have potential to kill fast.

basically if you can kill 1 vorex and 1 elcebre in first burst fight gets easier. But if you dont well 2 voresh droping ulti at same time is really high dmg in that fight. Also elcebre with her controll could make you kill your self

if you cant kill fast then well like i said way to go is most likely controll imunity and stuns on your side (holly hunter set)

Your premas is i2 could try with her if she manage to do enough dmg to remove 1-2 of them fast

up her enlightment as much as you can and check if she can do enough

[astral heath]

Try iola Tamar. Iola with hourglass and haste sets. Tamar with incense and 2 haste sets. Let iola go first with manual control. Then when the stun wears off. Let tamat auto ult