📊┆dragon-lineup-help

[scenic otter]

which one is a better sub poison? Eli or Shink?

as in poison buildup other than Twitch

[jaunty wolf]

Eli is supposed to be dps not setup. Shink is setup. Twitch is setup...

[scenic otter]

ahhh okay. Tysm

[jaunty wolf]

also for setup this guy should be actually better than most of options for poison setup

can do single targent can do aoe setup. Sharik can do aoe but its limited how he apply it so this guy does aoe way better

[scenic otter]

I dont think I have him yet unfortunately

[jaunty wolf]

Adventage of sharik is that he can apply deffense penalty effect for witch raimains or crown of unclean. Dench cant apply it

[scenic otter]

alright thanks, buddy

[jaunty wolf]

battele skill attack by bouncing between enemy and apply 1 stack of poison (this can apply as aoe but its only 1)

ulty can apply aoe poison 5 stacks but its locked on position where shink stands can see that orange suqare that indicate dmg and effects is done around sink only few fields. This is horrible for applying and usually end up more single target setup

Eli can do some decent dmg to poisoned targets. Cos every attack does bonus derivative dmg. Proper setup and this can actually make him decent dps

[scenic otter]

Should I invest on him or wait till 80/80?

[snow ingot]

Invest

[thick crest]

Wait for 80/80 but this guy so far a priority

@scenic otter did you get something new?

[thick crest]

Imagine he gets Flora

[snow ingot]

He will get more skill scrolls 🙂 and ghul is a vvery good support, esp. for the upcomming s1.

[scenic otter]

after the last Legendary, it's all trash blue rolls or some epics

Yeah I think ghul was my latest legendaries

[thick crest]

Oh... No

No no

Not the last

[scenic otter]

Yeah, the train has stopped

[thick crest]

You see as far as I remember you stopped at 50/80? Right

[scenic otter]

ye

[thick crest]

And rolled 15 without...

[scenic otter]

mhm...

it happens a lot

[thick crest]

So you have left with 20 roll to get guaranteed leggy from pity and +1 more bonus

[scenic otter]

but I bought Garius, he is super worth it

[scenic otter]

1 more bonus from?

[thick crest]

80/80 gives bonus

So at least 2 more for shure

[scenic otter]

just hope its not a copy or anything...

[thick crest]

Did you raid Goblin Towers? They also give you 1 Heliolit

Second one should give purple and after that heliolits

[scenic otter]

heliolit?

u mean Fey Meander?

[thick crest]

Not

We have them only in season 1

[scenic otter]

Idk about it

[thick crest]

There should be one for shure

[thick crest]

Tower defence

Go farm tower defence

[scenic otter]

farmed some

Im at Southern Adentia atm

unless I missed smth

[scenic otter]

Did some Fey recently

welp he's very PVP hero :/

[thick crest]

That's was 70...

My guts tell me that you will get one more from the next 10 pulls but use only X5 pull

[jaunty wolf]

Lol you got tank i want for my lightning teams. But tank i keep getting 3 times...
I hate here. Think she is horrible design skill wise

[scenic otter]

wait she is not better? I thought the tank I got was pretty much Arena only or smth

[jaunty wolf]

dont know what ppl consider something arena only. Taunt works on pve and pvp

I like when tank have taunt

this one just add deffense up and control imunity and have crappy on attack remove buffs from enemy. Passive is keeping her alive...

so remove buffs from nemy is horrible desing. Deffense up and imunity to team is offten just meh not doing enough for team

[scenic otter]

oh I thought taunt is only for pvp. But yeah for bossing idk how hes doing

[jaunty wolf]

taunt can make fay or pilars easier or some other fights

clearing some of those locked areas with challenges as you lvl up can be pain taunt can make them easier

any way consider it as controll just controll that force enemy to attack tank not controll that stop enemy from attacking

any way point of tank is to take dmg instead of team but when you do pillars there is aoe or they can chose to ignore tank and attack support or dps so tank does what ?

some can heal like garius, some can shield, some can controll enemy, some can taunt them, some can apply attack penalty making enemy do 50% less dmg...

and then you have this tank that add deffense up and controll imunity

if your team have low deffense 50% deffense up is nothing

[scenic otter]

ohh now I understand

[jaunty wolf]

lightning tanks... From that list i only like Fathomdown and one you got byonphray but dont have them. Know ppl like Grishnar but i have same problem with design can probably survive who knows what but dont do much for team. Maasthtur probably is really good but dont have him so cant be sure.
Epic Lydia can give shielding to team and controll imunity making he actually better than legendary crap i hate. But she is not that good. Naguk is more dps and cc than tank can do pretty good aoe. Volthug is kind of vatered down tank that you buy on alliexpress gets shiped broken and its not exactly what you saw in image.

[thick crest]

Heh

I want Fathomdown you can keep all others...

[jaunty wolf]

dont know he kind of look more like upgraded version of Naguk. Same like Stangue should be upgraded version of Lydia but well they fail

[thick crest]

Lightning tanks are useless except Fathom

Check him carefully

Grishnaar was good

But in new version his main passive removed

First he was dealing damage to those who attacked him
Then they changed him -
Then he was applying attack down passively like Ergander - very useful staff in any content - then they changed it again
In update he is just junk who keeps getting hurts...

maashtur ... I so like Grishnaar... Nothing to different

Stangeum has a crappy appearance but the hardest to kill- does it matter? - NO

[jaunty wolf]

there is similarity just looks from description like upgraded version can taunt or controll highest dps enemy and can protect like grishnar 1 dps. But still most fights you can end up with tank staying alive and team dead making tank useless

there are situations where tank can still win and kill enemy alone but dont happen that offten

I could not care less about tank alive if entire team dies

[thick crest]

100% agree!

The only 2 different tanks are Bionphray and Fathomdown...

[stoic solar]

This type you mean... 🤔 I just got it today

[thick crest]

Bion is more or less used as support... He can definitely tank but all goes into enemies control!

[jaunty wolf]

yeah but that said bionphry is not that great with locked position of his skills on him but still have lots of control and taunt. Fathomdown from what i saw can do crazy dmg but also put good debuffs on enemy

[stoic solar]

🤔 This one does more Shield giving. Don't know if her attacks worths it

[thick crest]

Control useful in PVP and pve pillars Fey Meander

[jaunty wolf]

am just fan of having taunt on tank 😅

[jaunty wolf]

helps early on when you doing exploration of zones some of thos fights can be insane so if you can cc them you can clear early unless you have things that just delete enemy

[thick crest]

But Fantonm! Energy remove is so advanced that he is on pair with Ergander

[jaunty wolf]

pretty sure she is one of craziest deffense characters in game but dont have her so cant say about attack but usually you dont care about attack on things like that 😅

[scenic otter]

off topic, but is there any ways to unlink discord acc from my old acc?

[spring wren]

I can pull on a S4 banner on one of my accounts.. Is it still worth it to try and get heroes like Astaion?

[old veldt]

nop

i mean, worth is subjective
but right now, saving dice and wyrm is way more valuable by very far

you could debate for s1 heroes, but not for S4

[stoic solar]

Does S2 and S3 heroes worths it, or I should stick with my S1 Heroes till S4 to use my wyrmarrow and dice there.

[stoic solar]

She is the craziest 😂. Just sharing Shield for everyone, making me not want a defend hero anymore but attacker instead

And torin is enough as for healer. Gotch, these duo with oggok is way too cliche for war of attrition... Except for short timer one losses

For long timer,🤔 this 3 tends to endure too long. Making me close to bored

[old veldt]

i think there is nothinng more worth that saving both wyrm and dice at maximum

[stoic solar]

Yeah this team

[stoic solar]

Thanks, now I got the best advice. Would have been sorry for myself if I did think there will be something better there lol.

For now will stick to my remaining 80/80 Heliote summon. Then end it

[jaunty wolf]

so you actually dont have dmg there

[stoic solar]

I do, the last guy there is a damage dealer. But I need one more, so the damages can stack up more.
With Vinyara. But I need an AOE DAMAGE

[old veldt]

why aoe?
you need a pair of dps atleast that is doing good together, using only leg isn't very good usually, except when you have a coherent one ^^

[jaunty wolf]

He is not really damage dealer he is setup for damage dealers

[stoic solar]

He is, just for small damage dealers unlike the original heavy damage dealers. His finishing move is 360 assassin assault for 3 secs max.

[stoic solar]

Because they attack everyone with one move and nice, to avoid making battle of attrition.

I am looking for something to beat against time here.

Like battles of 5mins and I am done, not my heroes still alive till they say I have lost.

[old veldt]

i mean, i understand that for pvp and gob, not for vortex or boss areas 😄

[rapid whale]

Yeah durango is an enabler not what you would call a proper dps , he’s good with jathalea if you’re going against a horde of mobs and with lothair against bosses

I’d lose oggok and durango and get 2 ice blasters in there

[stoic solar]

You are correct. That's why Durango last main skills is for small mobs. 😂 Unlike that crazy elf given to us at the start of the game

[stoic solar]

ICE... 🤔 I was thinking 2 Fire Blaster will deal a tone of more damage. Since Fire most times do with explosion.

Hmm 🤔, I guess I will go for Ice then. ICE/Necrosis elements then

[rapid whale]

I mean you can go wild and oggok for support

I forgot you’re in S1 so it’s frost necrosis

I reckon something like oggok adolphus/frurbath errich tonalnan and another wild mob should do the trick too in vortex, it’s honestly to your likings , you got pretty good necrosis poison supports all you need is pick an affinity and put some epic dps in there if you haven’t got approriate dps leggos

[jaunty wolf]

If he have oggok can for sure make wild team and should do good if proper setup

he seasm also early in season so probably low affinity and meaning no bonuses that require 5

[naive island]

Any idea how to beat this?

[snow ingot]

2 tanks 1 tanky support 2dps. Dps at bottom to avoid dmg on ergander, tank+support more in te upper half

[naive island]

Which dps should I use?

[snow ingot]

Single target who can focus on backline elecrebe>other 2 or realy good aoe

[naive island]

Sigrid, vyniara ? I don't have elecrebe

[snow ingot]

Elecrebe was ment as focus target 😂

[naive island]

Ah, I see😂

[stoic solar]

Actually 🤔 I think if he doesn't have a good DPS. His Main Hero that can switch between 3 elements is great person for AOE.

For someone who can focus on backline, the first elf during your journey does way better for that too 🤔

Main Hero + First Elf.

[jaunty wolf]

Assassins that can jump backline and kill targets. Or strong single target ranged and play it manuely. Enemy have healing and taunt so cant win on outliving them.

If you can kill elcebre fast should be able to win fight

[thick crest]

You have Garika, you have Zarlot .. Damage here is useless... Inli if you have an i5 Philto... Use an energy drain team combination... And it doesn't matter if they don't have complete elemental affinity

• Vanyara

At least 3 control Pokemons you already have

[naive island]

Sigrid have antiheal and atk penalty. If I use another debuffer, sheel can hit multiple enemies

[thick crest]

It doesn't matter

[naive island]

Good point. I'll try it with that strategy, but need to lvl up some heroes haha

[thick crest]

The strategy is easy... They will do maximum 1 time their ultimate...

[naive island]

I'm sure I have some epic that have this ability, they are not lvl uped

[thick crest]

Overall they will be left standing before they ....

[naive island]

Only Vanyara is ready tu use

[thick crest]

Look at Sovelis if you have him

[jaunty wolf]

If enemy taunt you?

[zinc nest]

Move Garius 1 tile below, this will set you a 4 man hit for Zharltoh ult. Use Zharltoh stop Perma stun them hopefully.

Use more Pokemons to Perma stun them.
Problem is allow them to use all goes on you, so stun lock em.

[scenic otter]

This is the last Legendary I got from pity

[thick crest]

Oh this guy is the best tank in the game

[scenic otter]

really?

[thick crest]

Yes he removes energy with his battle skill ... He is doing control with his ultimate. And he applies the attack Down passively

It's almost impossible to kill him

[scenic otter]

he can heal or smth tho?

[thick crest]

Only himself

Garius is a healer tank

[scenic otter]

Already built Garius rip

but I bought him be4 I got Ergander

[thick crest]

Ergander is useful in Fey, Pillars, PvP, pve bosses fights..

You don't need to stress yourself that you don't have Something useful in vortex

Because a new update will help you.

There will be banners with exclusive to pick

So from now on just keep dice and wyrmarrow...

[scenic otter]

I'm just lacking DPS I think

I got so many tanks

[scenic otter]

yeah I'm doing that

[thick crest]

I also started with tanks...

Not that great but manageable... Then next season I got all support

Only at s3 I got exclusive...

[scenic otter]

so the "next season" is the relaunch of S1?

[thick crest]

No it will be faster

[scenic otter]

Then again, my Poison is stacked

[thick crest]

Before your season ends

So your vortex sandcore would be useless I think

But it's just my speculations

[scenic otter]

it didnt get converted yet

i have 1720 atm

[thick crest]

It converts after the season ends...

[scenic otter]

oof

but I do get these no?

[thick crest]

So either you are lucky or you are not that lucky but it doesn't matter I also have some sandcore... At the start of new season...

You actually need this but who cares

I prefer new season starts

There are more resources more wyrmarow more dices

More or less better version

3 Weeks and you will have 300 dices to summon your banner

[scenic otter]

definitely waiting for this one

[thick crest]

Oh I think before you get to this banner you will use another one heh because overall you will be able to get near 600 dice per second if you're 🦥

[scenic otter]

wdym

[weak flax]

kk

[thick crest]

I mean what do you want from this banner?

It will be available twice before this banner

[scenic otter]

The lightning girl first and then the ice girl for ice damage

[scenic otter]

yup, but it's like only 2 heroes per

[thick crest]

In 1 Banner you have only 1 pick

Then wait for the next banner

[night pivot]

Can you guys give some suggestion for Ice/Lightning/Radiance teams from what I have so far? I need them for Fey Meander and Pillar of Trial.

Also what does enlightment do exactly? I know it can boost derivative damage and certain skills on some heroes, but I can see it listed as a recommendation even on heroes who's skills don't benefit from it. Or at least it's not listed in the skill description.

[snow ingot]

Enlightment works for skills that mention the stat (f.e. lothair passive, adolphus shields, elis passive and so on) and for passive dmg like poison

[snow ingot]

And for the teams: necro is missing but feliosa should def. be in the team. Frost your missing a good enabler but dorkuraz and usha are ok.
Rally/lightning = tamar, iola, nathaniel are good heroes. Lore and wellby are a goood comp too.

[jaunty wolf]

mix of them based on fight

mix of them based on fight

mix of them

any way dont underate usha and wallby cos they are "not purple or higher"

but for higher waves you will need more options

[thick crest]

Usha is the core pokemon for the ice team! You can remove any damage dealers except Usha!

[thick crest]

But these teams are useless in Fey Meander..

For radiance pillars you need someone who can apply heal block

So you have to mix lightning/radiance

[night pivot]

Thanks guys for the suggestions, will check them out. And I might have been misleading a bit. 😛 I meant the Labyrinth of Curiosities inside Fey. You know, the other tab. 😄 So no mixing elements when I'm only allowed a single specific element. As for Necrosis, I think I'm relatively well off. Maybe. Even if they are not great. Some more level up needed.

[night pivot]

What I don't get is why Catherine for example needs it. At least she is recommended to have it even tho her skills are not benefiting from it.

Oh and yes I know Usha is good. Faced her in arena. Can hit like a truck.

[snow ingot]

Her heal from battleskill and ult benefit from enl.
You have to click the "Details " button 🙂

[night pivot]

F me sideways... didn't know I could do that. And it was right in my face the whole time... xD I thought it simply referred to the text right below it, not that it actually shows more.

[jaunty wolf]

have if am not wrong 3 type of healers.

1. heal is based on enlightment stat so more enlightment biger heal (could have mix with targets hp or something)
2. based on targets HP (can be flat percentage can be healing slowly over time)
3. heal on hit.

there are characters that heal based on shield like adolush but he still have shield and heal based on enlightment stat

[jaunty wolf]

i really dont like that wizard guy bib avoiding him tested only 1 time 😅

[thick crest]

That heroic Pokemons are just normal... And they already LVL 90 why bother building new except Usha .. Usha is a must she is very useful ...

[jaunty wolf]

think dorkuraz is bit underated ppl see him as enabler only but can do pretty good dmg. But i really dont like wizard XD

[snow ingot]

The wizzard is very good for aoe but requires a good frost debuffer and consisrant frost applies. Without this hes bad 🙈

[jaunty wolf]

yeah even with that if enemy not grouped nicely he will not do that great XD

forgot what was explosion range when he hit frost target with that bouncing attack

[snow ingot]

Hes a beast in s2 or s3 endboss, cant remember exactly xD

Easy 200m

[jaunty wolf]

cant remember explosion was like 1 tile around target or something or 2, not big range so need targets to be close

and that battle skill is annoying

[stoic solar]

Is she really good... Before I go overboard in Leveling her up just to end up useless!!

[snow ingot]

She is very good

[stoic solar]

Thanks

[spring wren]

Just started season 6, been away for a year... Whats a good lineup for Flame domain?

[snow ingot]

Debuff immunity + what you got 🙂

[stoic solar]

Just get mostly ICE Heroes + Healers. 3 Ice DPS + 1 Ice Hero + 1 Support Necrosis

[spring wren]

I tried lvl 30 Nastjenka, Ursha(tank), Voresh, Zar'loth and Hvitar.. the die quickly on Flame 2

[snow ingot]

30 is a bit low without a good setup

Show your roster sorted by element combination and maybe we can help better 🙂

[spring wren]

I got roughly all epics.. Except Asqar pearl and tatoth

[snow ingot]

Acilia + myth and 3 dps or +fathom + 2 dps

You got an impressive roster 🙂

[thick crest]

Nah... He is just lucky...

Mine is better

I have Talwerk there! And Dulk

[spring wren]

Myth `= Mithrasea?

[snow ingot]

Yes

[spring wren]

any suggestion on the best dps? Thelendor and Huberg is very aoe oriented, but fully scrolled

[snow ingot]

Thele/huberg + alton

[dry citrus]

big cheer 4 sillydilly wuuhuuu

[scenic otter]

Since I don't have Tonalan for Wild yet, who's good to use as Wild damager?

[rare parcel]

Bronwy and errich

The most right character and the legendary

[scenic otter]

ty

[scenic otter]

is Brody pretty much a fire tank or smth?

[rare parcel]

Yes. He can dispel shield which is kind of niche

[jaunty wolf]

i have them talwe too XD
But look at this OP list. Almost nothing works with nothing XD

S6 and still dont have Dalk 😅 You win or i win something like that 🤣

[thick crest]

Oh you have a useless account as well... Mine the same! 😆 Congratulations!

Now there's two dudes ...with almost the same accounts

I don't have Lotar I Have Telendor instead

[jaunty wolf]

yet i somehow end up doing all content and if i dont slack end up in top 30

[thick crest]

But overall ... The same

Same thing same thing

[jaunty wolf]

but well slacking part skiped this season vortex like already 10 times so top 50 even to i end up in top 23 on vortex XD

[thick crest]

You can be proud of what you have if there : Rook(+team),Ozul(+team), Ice blust team, Flora, Austetish+ team, Ghulante.... I Mean all that we don't have.....

[jaunty wolf]

who knows maybe game reboot end up changing that (not) 🤣

[thick crest]

I pray for some kind of error where all travellers are merged together....

So I can at least get half of what I don't have

[jaunty wolf]

@thick crest hardest one to do 🤣 😂

if bit more affinity or level would work 😅

or if 2 proper carnage gauntlets

[scenic otter]

Nathan is good for Dauntless team?

Nathaneel is his name I think

[jaunty wolf]

Problematic design but and dauntles tanks are crap. Dauntless healers are crap. So i would need tank and 2 healers for that fight. Cos i dont have 2-3 ranged dauntless dps that can do enough dmg need to have 2 of them mele. And mele take insane dmg on that fight...

So technically if i used tank and healers i would need 7 characters not 5. Only way to do it is to make nataniel tank. And for that to work need to position 2 male like that so things align when fight start so nataniel can tank, clear burn, heal and shield. Set it any other way and nataniel only shield and do nothing other

Anyone would say need ranged dauntless for that fight. Yes nimbus would need x5 or more of his current dmg to clear that fight dmg

So anataniel is trash but options are limited so he end up best you can have with all limitations

Everyone would tell you for that fight you need this 2 guys cos like i said melee take crazy dmg in that fight cant keep them alive long enough unless having debuff imunity and heal at really low cd and if you have this like cateline could work give heal and debuff imunity but have cd problems if you cut cd down to required one you lose heal power

cateline is radience not lighting

none of this tanks can do anything in that fight to keep 2 mele dps alive or if they try its patheic how much they fail. Radiance tanks would do tirck but you use them on other things

supports are shield or some sort of imunity basically no heal, low heal or conditional heal. Really limited.
Zaffi dont have him but he is dmg imunity and shield no heal.
Ihucatl is shield and deffense up heal only when hp drops under 50% so need to do it manualy basically to make it work.
Nataniel is shield, some heal around him and some passive heal but all weak and limited.
Enna is only good design there but heal is weak and remove only 1 debuff.
Irina is sheal and attack penalty.
Gerana is shield.

you see pathern here basically no heal on lighting supports

nataniel can passively heal when debuff is removed on your team. but heal is small and can happen on 1 character every second. Good luck removing debuffs that offten.

his healing and remove debuff is limited and target locked around him reason i position him as i did. Meaning 2 fields in front of him 2 fields behind him, 2 fields left and right of him are getting heal and remove 1 debuff. That said recovery over time is weak unless you can put more stacks and your team have high HP. 1 debuff removing it that fight is to low

So basically what nataniel do is shield unless used in specific way. this skill is good goes dmg so technically can apply witches remains (deffense down) if needed. His shield is not lock on him so can trow it anywhere. Give 1 deffense up (weak) can make problems in some fights where boss power up based on removing buffs for you. Shield is based on enlightment so if you use him as tank you reduce shield.

positioned like i did make boss run 1 tile to you. So come to nataniel. If i put 2 mele characters forward they would run to boss and nataniel will be 1 tiel away from boss making his heal not work on 2 mele. So like this boss come closer. 2 mele run forward and now they are in position where nataniels battle skill can heal and remove debuff (burn from them). But cos its battle skill cant controll timing unless you build around haste and hit perfect haste to have skill fire when you want it.Nataniel is on tank set to take some of dmg from 2 mele dps (15%) makine them stay longer alive. Tried with heal or high enlightment set didnt work. So reduce his shield power make him tank.
Position of nimbus is where i set him so he get 2 tiles behind nataniel heal. Making nataniel buff him with solar kings horn giving him 15% dmg buff like he does for 2 mele dps.

and Iola is there to apply witch remains and attack penalty at right time so boss does less dmg. Needed to drop cd to under 18 sec cos boss have low cd.

So nataniel is crap unless used in specific way

but options are limited 🤷‍♂️

Any way long story short lightning have crappy tanks and crappy supports yes they can work but so problematic design

[lusty relic]

cant you use radiance tank?or radiance healer?

[jaunty wolf]

I did say used them for other things. Didnt fully lvl up caterine she would be option but like said need to cut heal to get cd. Its 5 characters team not 6 or 7

thing is she si good for debuff imunity but cd is not low enough for that fight so need to drop heal power to up this

but then you dont have tank

or you dont have deffense and attack down debuff

or you dont have enough dmg

did try things around only way i did enough dmg for full reward on it

[snow ingot]

For mele comp you need zeffi to last whole fight or garius+acilia/cathrin/gillian

[jaunty wolf]

garius is used on rook. and alicia i dont have. Catherine would have to ocupy 2 spots and high chance not do enough dmg

and gilian i dont think i will ever get her XD

zafi can shield boss ulty and maybe 1 more hit some other hits still do dmg. And if no healer...

catherine is still lvl 70. Cos sepdn resources trying to get carnage gauntlets instead on lvling up other characters and still didnt get good gauntlets XD

[snow ingot]

Got whole 5 min all alive. No 5 aff buffs (last 2 rows)

Sucks hard that i didnt found a way to make use of horn 🙈

Rook you could use ardreth instead of garius 🙂

[jaunty wolf]

had to use them on other thing XD

[jaunty wolf]

garius alone didnt keep them alive long enough

probably could have find different setup but well worked first time so meh lazy XD

but then well need to find solution for thins one

[analog minnow]

Hello I started playing few days ago I have this champions Ripikas is fully scrolled same with Garius I used free reset period Soo that's why my units are mostly not leveled since I don't know what teams to build. I'm looking for vortex team, and gear dungeon teams also would appreciate some goblin suggestions since I feel like I should be able to push further then stage 8. Thanks in advance!

Assume I have all rares

[jaunty wolf]

Not sure how good your vortex will be with just that. But initial vortex cos low affinity can be mixed team dont need more than 3 of same type to activate bonus affinity. But still not sure what would work good enough. Looks like best bet is necrossis summon. You have some really nice things but well not enough for full setup...

[jaunty wolf]

think i would probably go goblins something like this and for 5th not 100% sure would need to check what performs better. Its weird mix cos different elements but Sigrid tends to be pretty good on it cos of ulty recharging when enemy under debuff dies and multi hit to targets under debuff. Dante can recharge ulty if hit low hp enemy and also apply debuff so seting up for sigrid. Ripsake would tank, dps and put debuffs for sigrid. Meggan will most likely use battle skill on Ripsake cos he get hit so recharging his ulty by 25%. Auster well like i said not sure could be him or someone other. Eventually you will get more options and unlock more affinity so will have to triger 5 stacks of affinity. But its 3 only at moment so can do mixed up teams.
But there could be better option just what i would do for goblins

dante can also be used on some other things you mentioned gear dungeons... cos he can remove buffs.
Seams you can make 2 functional teams around Frost and around summon. Others still missing options 😦

For vortex not sure what would do better frost or summon most likely frost cos you have Usha, Auster and Dorkuzar 🤔

[thick crest]

This team will give you basic damage in Vortex, PvE .
Pillars and Fey Meander you have to sacrifice that troll frost applier and use Sovelis

Ethi is the most complete team you gave

There are also some good Pokemons but they are lacking synergy

[jaunty wolf]

Guess you dont like dante 😅

[thick crest]

No I like him he is cool! And strong... But this team will get synergy X5...

[jaunty wolf]

yeah its still early in season from what he said need to unlock lots of things in afinity for X5 to make difference

[dry citrus]

pokemons haha 😄

love it... Pikachu, I choose you!

[stoic solar]

😂 Catch 'Em All

[onyx lintel]

idr affinity for the season but your Vortex should be Garius Garrett Nimbus Vani and Yagnatz. Can probably swap Vani for more support, like Irene or a dispel.

@analog minnow

Your gobbo should be Sigrid Zarloth Auster Usha and Rowena or Dorkz. Probably Rowena

Usha is gonna do way more damage than Rip

If anythinf, I would drop Zarloth for Rip if you want

Dane is also pretty good here but Sigrid + Frost basic necessity.

Don't frost Vortex, dauntless gonna give you way better results. Put def down arti on Yagnatz and time it > Vani > Yagz > Nimbus > Garrett

[dry citrus]

Solid advice, but probably Dorkuraz over Rowena as he applies the frost debuff most consistently out of the available options

Sigrid and Auster will benefit greatly from the frost debuffs in goblin

[onyx lintel]

tbh I don't remember how great Auster is at application but if he sucks at frost app then yeah probably dorkz

Usha is not bad at it though iirc

[dry citrus]

Usha and Auster can only apply frost on their ultis, so not good options

Dorkuraz applies frost with basic attacks and battleskill

but as you said, Usha is a great DPS and pseudo tank in goblin paired with other frost heroes

Together Usha, Auster and Sigrid (just those 3) if geared correctly can do all the DMG required for max goblin - they just need someone, e.g. Dork, to apply the frost debuff

all hail Dork the pokemon

[onyx lintel]

❤️ dorky

[onyx lintel]

Both rare Dauntless - Haug and Yagnatz can replace Nimbus and Sutha here and still get 22m fyi

[jaunty wolf]

maybe i should have level them and show you that will not really work with what i have. Like let you suggest setup and all and when it dont work well 🤷‍♂️ ty for wasted resources XD

[onyx lintel]

I've already done it guy

For continental you need 15 teams, one if my teams was Yagnatz Haug Schaltar Irene and Nathaniel

1 melee, 4 ranged

[jaunty wolf]

did it again season 6. And with garbage stats gear that drop and no good charnage gauntlets after all resources spend on them to farm so yeah still work just if i used those 2 will not do enough

[onyx lintel]

How do you know? Forreal, I'm telling you I have personally done this and you're just like NUG UH it won't work!!

Just fkn comical the amount of excuses you have brudda

[jaunty wolf]

Yes and is saw person do crazy points on vortex but well if he did it dont mean others will XD

[analog minnow]

thanks a lot guys

[dry citrus]

Nuh uh! His identical pokemons are apparently weaker than yours, built-in disadvantage for him, life is tough

all hail pokemons, and all hail Dorky

[thick crest]

@stoic solar @dry citrus Don't pika pika me here!

[stoic solar]

Eeeeh 👀

[lucid knot]

These are my legendary and epic characters

Just looking to invest on units that I'll be using most of the time

@rare parcel

[rare parcel]

Rose whisk karf tharivol are all nice

which season are you in?

[lucid knot]

Season 4 i think

Started this account Season one came back for season 2 or 3 but played like a week and left

So my knowledge is non existent when it comes to characters I'll have to read everyone's kit and look at tier lists

[rare parcel]

For starters Ice blast and burn are viable. other than that Thudnerbolt can shine with orfenna

Corossion is still number one though

[lucid knot]

Is Corrosion a character or like a team?

[rare parcel]

a damage school

Like from Whisk

[lucid knot]

Ohhh got it

[cyan cairn]

Its alot for most of us returnee's to relearn, but remember alot of it changes with the relaunch.

[lucid knot]

Thought it was called poison class lmaoo

[cyan cairn]

poison is a damage school of itself

[rare parcel]

poison is an element as well as a damage school

[lucid knot]

Got it

[cyan cairn]

Wild/Burn, Frost/IceBlast, Radiant/Aura, Thunderbolt/Dauntless, Poison/Corrosion. Summon/Shadow from what i remember are the different ones

[lucid knot]

Im assuming I'll need different teams for different types of content right i can't run the sans team for everything

[lucid knot]

Ohhhhh now I remember it's coming back thank you

[cyan cairn]

Correct

[rare parcel]

indeed

[cyan cairn]

Vortex, Goblins, Gear dungeons, Crystal Dungeons for general gameplay. Then you have the chief challenges, then it would be the end of season continel challenges, more than likely Relaunch happens before you hit that stage

[lucid knot]

Yeah 100% that last part sounds like end game stuff

[cyan cairn]

So I wouldn't overly stress about it, and id save any wyrmmarrow and helio dice you get as well.

[lucid knot]

Yeah I saw wukong is coming so definitely saving for him im a big fan of Wukong

Also should I max any of my legendary character's skills? I got 27 legendary scrolls

[cyan cairn]

Scrolls are being kept so id hold them for the relaunch

[lucid knot]

Copy that I'll save em then

Relaunch is on June 5th right?

[cyan cairn]

As you never know who you will pull during the first season of the relaunch, and there kinda important to use wisely

[lucid knot]

Tomorrow

[cyan cairn]

No,

[lucid knot]

Yeah you're right

[lucid knot]

💀

Gotta stop trusting google

[cyan cairn]

Content Creators will be getting access to the test servers potentially by the end of this month, so i'd estimate a couple wees after that for launch

[lucid knot]

Ohhh ok

Thnx again the useful info @cyan cairn and @rare parcel appreciate it a lot

[rare parcel]

Best estimate is in july. https://discord.com/channels/928541801260908546/978610996698578944 will probably announce the relaunch if you want to stay updated

[lucid knot]

Thnx

[rare parcel]

You're welcome

[naive island]

Recommended team?

[rare parcel]

Tonalnan or Felicity if you have her

Heksandra would be probably too much

Adolphus with shields/heal and frur should be enough to survive

[naive island]

I can't survive

I'm playing Adolphus, flora, errich, frurbah

I'll use Tonal instead of errich

[rare parcel]

Mind your lineup

Positioning is key here!

Get Adolphus and Frur so that both get ulted by Auster, Give Adolphus resistance so he doesn't get Frost debuff

Space everyone else out so they won't get hit by enemy ult

[naive island]

Gonna try this. Thank you mate

[rare parcel]

Ranged units only possible if you move Frur one tile towards your Adolphus position

Otherwise the positioning above and then tonalnan instead of Heksandra. Tonal with a bit of survivability

[naive island]

This positioning is safe? I have bad rng or why frurbah inflicts DP just one time during fight?

Even with WR artifact

[rare parcel]

Frur is not a viable Def down applier besides with mystic conch (s4 artifact). You need to put it either in Tonal or Errich

[naive island]

I mean defense penalty, he has 75% chance on ult

The boss is immune to cc effects, but this is not cc so it should work

[rare parcel]

Yes but his ult only does dmg once. Multi hit ultimates increase the chance of applying def down

So with enough accuracy to hit a debuff it is still only 75%...

[naive island]

I see, they need to better describe skills. But even with WR artifact he wasn't able to inflict defense penalty

Would be worth use sigrid?

[rare parcel]

Sigrid ult also is only 1 hit....

Your dmg should come from Flora even without her ult she should deal tremendous amounts of dmg

[snow ingot]

Tonalnan has 5 hits so he should carry crown/wirches. His dmg doesnt really matters but his hit count matters for flora

As timings flora, then tonal then errich

[naive island]

So tonal with WR, what arti should frur has?

[snow ingot]

Sth with hp or dmg reduction

And tonal need to be built tanky as well, otherwise he dies fast

[naive island]

She has 57k hp now with DPS build

Does it enough?

[snow ingot]

You have to try

And frur needs acc to Land his atk down, best paired with enough haste to Match the 18s rotation

[dry citrus]

gotta disagree with Tonalnan vs Errich as WR carrier. In my experience, Tonalnan's damage potential/ceiling is higher than Errich's, thus Errich should wear WR (his ulti also hits 5 times)

[dry citrus]

to mazimize damage, Frurbath should wear Solar King's Horn but only worth it when your heroes are grouped so they all receive healing. Vs Auster specifically it would mean that everyone will get hit by his ultimate, and they might not be able to survive that. But generally Solar King's Horn is great for tanks and supports who heal over time. If your team struggle to survive, Frurbath can wear Hourglass so he has enough haste to apply attack down before Auster uses his ulti

[naive island]

Unfortunately, I don't have much mythic artifacts. I can use another tank, but it means losing max afinity bonus

[snow ingot]

As stand-alone fact yea, but in this fight he will need defensive stats to survive long enough (takes austers ult with frur). So errich as dps and he as tanky witches applyer is the better choice.

Because flora doesnt need his dmg, she needs the hit count 🙂

[jaunty wolf]

lol i see others use bait tactics to make game focus one side XD

[jaunty wolf]

his passive if i remember right should still apply solark kings horn just well random so hard to controll and not at full power

[rare parcel]

That's possible as well. Ranged can be done in my way as well 🙂

Important thing is that his passive doesn't spread to over 2 of the lineup

[rose jetty]

Auster Battleskill ignores defense so you need build Frurbah high HP (around 80k or 100k) to survive. Also Hes is better with her dispell frost debuff

since with Paranoid lineup, Flora and Errich wont be hit by Auster ulti so they dont need shield from Adolphus

[night pivot]

Who do you think is better Fihrah or Liko? I want to put together a 3rd arena team from leftover (preferably scrolled up) heroes, but I can't decide. For now I have Felosia (scrolled up), Enna (scrolled up), Horrus, Follie (scrolled up) and Fihrah. On paper Fihrah has a wider variety of skills, but I'm immensely disappointed with her performance so far. No damage, no survivability and her crowd control sucks. Accuracy down doesn't seem to do much for me and her buff prohibition is kinda non-existent. At least I've yet to actually witness it... maybe she is actually removing buffs, I don't know. Liko on the other hand has her buff prohibition on her ult, she can give accuracy and even heals, which would probably come as a huge relief since Enna is a very weak healer.

[winged venture]

Fihrah is literally designed for the one boss and that's it. Ancient battlefield iirc

[shell tide]

Season 3 end boss; keeps dying here, Nath cant seem to keep me up at 15.5/15 rotation.
Any tips? More enlightment?

[rare parcel]

Might be because of bad luck. I remember Nathaniel having like a 10%-20% chance to be solo healer. Also why not put Ivelios on auto? If you keep dying try to give him more enl to increase the shields

[dry citrus]

I THINK I used Hourglass + a bit more haste to go on 15 sec rotation. As I remember, I managed to keep everyone alive that way. Nath benefits from enlightenment and HP. If you can get enough haste on the runes, Nath can wear Moonlight Mantle with Enlightenment or HP % as primary stats, and the ancestral protection set or that other "defense share" set, I forget its name. It was the best defensive set in season 3 if you could stack enough defense on the pieces, so you might go def % on the moonlight mantle in that case

[snow ingot]

If s3 was lightning/necro, i used this team for 200m estella as heal

[shell tide]

Changing to estella made me survive and do 210M ty

[jaunty wolf]

ty for wasting my resources now you go on ignore liste

[snow ingot]

It is possible with this team

[jaunty wolf]

i know but now i had some resources to waste so now i did yes i can up dmg more swaping things around but will not hit what he was saying unless i have insane gear and maxed afinity i dont so he is going on ignore thats was point

[dry citrus]

Enma out here making friends

[jaunty wolf]

just didnt like his atitude

having this as best that drop when you need better stats and need 2 of them will not make nonsense work

[jaunty wolf]

🤷‍♂️

[stoic solar]

Help....

🤧 They beat me long story short. They whooped me blue black, red yellow and left my body black blooded.

I want to create a fire/poison affinity to blast through all my game places.

So what gears and heroes among these list should I combine.

Something like Oggok, Ergander blah blah blah and the equipment to focus on.

This is S1 though

[snow ingot]

There is no "1 for all content" team. Thats why i said, team comp is important.
Where are your epics/rares? Your legy dps are bad/situational ok or at best average xD

[cyan cairn]

show your full roster it massively helps

[snow ingot]

Best heros so far : feliosa, vinyara > oggok, mithrasea, torrin all very ggood supports

[cyan cairn]

also sometimes you will hit roadblocks, and its not always a gear/scroll issue, the psyicore buffs play a part as well, so make sure you do vortex daily (near the end of your playing time for the day if possible so your at your strongest).

[jaunty wolf]

Shadow is only thing that actually blast trough things. Poison and fire need time to power up.

[dry citrus]

blow up those road blocks, zeddy

[stoic solar]

Shadow is that an hero.... 🤔 Show me a picture of one as reference bruh

[old veldt]

its a dps school
if you have s4 role you ought to know about them 🙂

[dry citrus]

seriously? It says you're in S4, so surely you must know about the shadow affinity

[stoic solar]

😬 Yike, I am in S1. So I am far from that

[jaunty wolf]

Well s1 is wild and dauntless but they dont really blast trough things

Maybe if you get lucky with full setup of rally

[old veldt]

don't use s4 role then, we won't give you good recommandation with that ^^

[stoic solar]

Nope, I need them from S1 to S4 for Fire/Poison that's why I asked.

So it will still be important for S4. That's why I asked. I am mostly into this two as main, then others in case of some changes to win some events

[old veldt]

but you will have no option from S2+ that we could recommend you, and you won't understand dps school or stuff linked to futur season

if you want help, let us know the appropriate one

especially since you won't have S4 before long as we will all be s1 soon again

[stoic solar]

Alright then start with S1 own then.

[old veldt]

then you will get information from everyone as we will all be in same ^^

[cyan cairn]

Like I said yesterday show us your full roster and potential be able to piece a fire/poison team together won't do all but it will do some

[dry citrus]

Zeddy the masterful advisor

[cyan cairn]

were you named something else before, your speaking to me with familiarity XD

[dry citrus]

Nope, it's my thing to rename people

[cyan cairn]

ahah no worries 🙂 just wanted to make sure 🙂

[somber ivy]

he's silly after all 🙂

[stoic solar]

Alright here you go for all then.

[uncut juniper]

what are my best options for a vortex team s2

[cyan cairn]

so for now you can use Fire MC, sigrid, oggok, ergandr, errich(def down artifact holder if you have one)

that should help you do the campaign, you will need a second team to do the fire/poison crystal dungeon. which ill have a good think about

[snow ingot]

Shaltar, shagrol, dauntless flying dwarf, frurbath iuhcatl --> edith: forget it, thought i saw shagrol but not here xD

Errich, felicity, tonalnan, adolphus, torrin

Best options i can see. Still missing 1 better option in each team but you got what you got.
No ib so far. Try to get gerthin. Then go gerthin, bleddyn, garius, phaessa, vinyara

[uncut juniper]

is that gonna hold up without a tank? i have seen tonalnan run in and die in such situations

[snow ingot]

You asked for vortex 🙂 build torrin max hp&def. Vortex Boss always focus on max hp target

[uncut juniper]

alrighty will do

do i need to scroll torrin?

[snow ingot]

But i dont have tested how torrins invisibilty works on the lightning strike

[uncut juniper]

i have felicity errich vinyara ghoulande alton lorantheel scrolled

[snow ingot]

Instead of torrin you can try estella

Rally you dont got a good dps, so this is out.

[uncut juniper]

22gold scrolls 34purple is what i got rn

[snow ingot]

Summon more and hope for gerthin or use what you got and save up for the relaunch

[uncut juniper]

hoping to not have to dig into the wyrmarrow

[cyan cairn]

dont, save it.

the new version will launch half way through your season.

[uncut juniper]

yeah hopefully i get 40 dices naturally

[winged venture]

Journ over Errich just imo. Journ is legit one of the best units in the whole game

Oh I just realized you have Durango.... build Durango over both Journ or Errich.

He should hold your def down also.

[thick crest]

It's the same ... If you have dices left they will convert it into 350 wyrmarrow for one... So it doesn't matter...

[uncut juniper]

Oh damn

[woven jasper]

just the beginning of s2

AKF wait for the new version

[marsh bough]

What’s a really good radiance team?? I have the attached leggos and all other radiance heroes!

[snow ingot]

Depends on purpose
Philto, alton, hegio, + Supports as needed

[jaunty wolf]

Imagine having Philto, Alton and Phaessa 😅

[snow ingot]

Done xD

[jaunty wolf]

not even have proper 15 teams 🤣

[stoic solar]

I want to ask... Why does this guy 🤦‍♂️ Main attack takes so much time. At times longer than usual. No set time, he can do it in 30 secs, 3 mins, 2 mins.

I mean Zadok

[jaunty wolf]

main atack? You mean his ultimate ?

If thats what you talk about CD is reduced based on summons that die (allies that die) around him

he also power up like that get more attack

can do some nice dmg but not too flexible

[stoic solar]

Oh, it 🤧 almost made me sad. Like while power up when almost all my heroes are dead while fighting before launching. At times he should launch before 😂 it remains him alone on board 🛹

[jaunty wolf]

well summon teams have lots of sumons that die easy can use them as sacrifice to speed up his skill recharge and increase his dmg

most of thos skeleton summons die like nothing

[coarse bison]

Hello, I need help passing the Mystic Meander 168. These are my teams. I'm in Season 1 and I don't have any Mythic Artifacts.

[rapid whale]

Have you tried ice/necro ?

Like ripekas/felosia/lucien/zharloth and sharlach ?

[snow tundra]

Need hero lineup suggestion

Season 1

[solar valve]

Horus tank or talwer (really don´t know who performs better where),
Heksandra heal,
felicity and alton wild and huldork should be fine.
then it depends on which stage

ice necro: voresh for sure, Ishitarian, bottom left ice archer, Sharlach and a healer perhaps rare Meggan

[naive island]

What is best team I can use?

[old veldt]

i guess garius +4 dauntless or +3dauntless and nathaniel i guess

i heard lizard on screen is also nice but idk

[naive island]

Yea, that's my plan Garrus + dauntless, but who should I use

[old veldt]

only dauntless, not rat shook

[naive island]

I wonder if shagrol is good there

[old veldt]

shagral shagrol(break def) garett +1

[naive island]

One more dps or support hero?

[jaunty wolf]

Talwer is strange not so reliable as tank. Horus tend to be pretty reliable bot surviving and keeping focus on him self.

[solar valve]

if they don´t survive someone;
with attack down and/or Nathaniel or the lizard lady

[snow ingot]

Cant really remember my team but i think best are ranged dps because his bs hits hard

Maybe vanni, flying dwarf and sth like that

[naive island]

I noticed that, I'll try this boss next week, because I can't lvlup all of them

[jaunty wolf]

Lol thats somehow 15 teams 🤣 😅

[old veldt]

Well gz, i dont think i could do same with 90% being 90 only

[jaunty wolf]

if they are just 90 yes some of them would not do enough. Had to 5 star them basically to make them work. Extra stats from negative rune did push them enough to work

I do have good artifacts just dont have some of needed heroes 😅 Tend to complicate things

But this time gear drop is horrible. Zero usefull carnage gauntlets

Some of them had to push to 95 cos i was missing dmg

[naive island]

What team I need to use?

[naive island]

I don't know how to beat it, everything just dies

[pale mural]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=twIE8RPrCOE

u can also try with a hvitar team

or any hero capable of 1 shotting

[naive island]

I don't have hvitar. I'm using sigrid and garrika as dps

[pale mural]

these 2 can defo one shot

use cards if you have it and go full crit garrika

[naive island]

How he was able to kill them Instantly? I use garrika's and Sigrid's ult and I barely take a quarter of their hp

[pale mural]

can you show stats

like 4k~5k attack 300% crit?

[cyan cairn]

sometimes gear/runes, are they scrolled?, use food buffs

[naive island]

I cook every day haha. Garrika isn't scrolled, because I don't know if it is worth

[cyan cairn]

Alot of the time it's wise to hold off spending Master scrolls. Usually better to spend them on main units first (that you use alot, like multiple teams etc)

[naive island]

I'm saving my scrolls, because in new S1 I'll get lot of new heroes

Definitely some of them Will be good

[pale mural]

very low crit damage on both u gotta aim for 300-350% critdamage, also try with cards

[night pivot]

Garrika is a beast in pvp. Definitely worth scrolling her for that. Don't know about pve tho as I don't have her. I just hate fighting against her.

[jaunty wolf]

as idea sounds good but never had much benefit from her in pvp or problem fighting her.

[naive island]

I have crit dmg on every piece of gear. I suppose that gloves with crit dmg is needed

[naive island]

I used a few scrolls, because I have 20 of them. She works good in pve for me

[jaunty wolf]

well gear can have 5% crit or 40% maybe even more so depends on RNG it can be hard to build what he aim for 4k dmg and over 300% crit

season 6 drop rate on gear was so horrible its not even funny sold 10 carnage gauntlets cos deffense/hp. Drop rate low and then when drop drops garbage stats.... Still dont have proper carnage gauntlets and its alreayd close to end of season

thing is some of them look to game only trough P2W glasses so more farm potential

[pale mural]

something like so

or like so if you dont have cards yet

[naive island]

I don't have cards, but I will switch every crit rate main stat to crit dmg stat

Then I'll need good rng on crit

[pale mural]

you can sacrifice atk and other stats for crit dmg gear

[pale mural]

you can also try with holy hunter sets and try to stunlock enemy with aoe heroes

[night pivot]

She is average if your heroes don't buff your team, but if they do, she is gonna mess you up. For example I use my main character in pvp and she is buffing everyone in the team at the start of the battle. That means Garrika also gets instant full or near full ultimate energy and cast her ult way before I can. From that point on I'm ususally dead. Especially if the enemy is using Sigrid in the same lineup. I've lost many battles solely to her and her initial debuff and energy drain.

[pale mural]

but depending on your season holy hunter set may not be available

[jaunty wolf]

i dont see her in top 10

hell even in 3v3 i dont see her much

most of things i used destroy her when i see her and my teams are not even that strong

[night pivot]

The rank 8 has her on my server and I run into her regularly in 3v3. Many people simply use more powerful or straight up broken heroes whenever possible.

[naive island]

That's the only thing I can do. Thanks for help

[fresh wyvern]

Is Garret and sutha both better options than nimbus for dauntless? Planning to use schaltar for +40% derivative dmg vortex

Unless ib better than dauntless still... could use zhorak?

[snow ingot]

Nimbus better then garret

[fresh wyvern]

Ty

I'll level sutha as 3rd dps for this team

[jaunty wolf]

dont have garret but he should actually be better than nimbus if am not wrong. Just nimbus is more worth leveling up can be used in more fights

[old veldt]

i would understand nimbus doing better in several cases because of the conditionnal aspect of garett's kit, but i don't use neither of the two so i cannot tell either

[jaunty wolf]

o i use nimbus he is actually not bad but am sure garret should do more in fights where being mele is not problem

any way both work just question of what works better

[snow ingot]

Garrett does more dps on its own but enebles less then Nimbus with much haste. So while he is going to use shaltar he wants as much Hits as possible.

[solar valve]

shaltar is a beast
iceblast is better

[fresh wyvern]

Yeah it's sad though even the changing effects don't create variety

[stoic solar]

How great is this guy + Vinyara. I need some Epic great ice that has heal, and one that has high defense

Just got home today on new Alt, first day of the account today.

[old veldt]

I think viny is ice which is paired with necro in s1. I like a lot zar loth with her as he can increase cd generation + little healing while she shields + control atb fast

[jaunty wolf]

can be used as tank enabler for frost teams. But you dont have any frost dps there on team

[stoic solar]

Yeah, this time will want the DPS too 🤦‍♂️ for ice

[stoic solar]

Can someone tell me more about this guy.... His Ult sounds devastatingly bad 🤦‍♂️.

Or is he a great ally for Ice or just manageable?

[jaunty wolf]

never used him forgot what he even does probably looked at description and nah not bothering

but you cant mix apples and oranges just cos something is ice dont mean it have sinergy with other. They build Frost, Ice blast, and there is frozen but they didnt build much around frozen making it more controll and few other small things around it like stealing buffs or recharing energy

Just checked Lethander is basically support. Apply debuffs on enemy probably can do some dmg but well recharge penalty, frozen, acuracy penalty

when you dont have much options you are forced to use what you have 🤷‍♂️

with that horese guy that you have you want something like

[thick crest]

This guy is nuke for the ice.... But the problem is huge... You need to kill something first...

• in goblins if you kill them they don't have ultimate turn meter .... Nothing useful for him
• in Dangeons... It's just solo boss... Harpie is useful.
• in Fey Meander and pillars so so...
• in PVP it's hard to kill someone ...
  So he is good for the achievements. I mean something like elemtal dungeons....

Actually he is normal for the damage but he shines in PVE in storyline he is beast! If you kill something he will decimate everything else

[clever moth]

any suggestions for Vortex team
and if i should scroll my legendary heroes, i did some but i have 25 scroll now idk who to use em on

[old veldt]

guess you will be able to follow most going with wild ith a target on flora's selection on her banner

not sure you need to scroll yet, but that could be a good option
until then, sutha + shagrol + shaltar can be enough i think
Or nimbus instead of shagrol idk

[pale mural]

errich, felicity, felosia, premsta, and sutha and to some extent casper, vinyara, gillian and ripekas are all good scroll targets.

[onyx lintel]

I have Caspar scrolled and legit he was only ever good for an extra OW team

I have every single one of those units scrolled and I would say in this order Felosia > Vinyara > Ripekas > stupid lightning rat > Gillian

MAYBE Ergander

Wild is trash without Flora tbh

Trolgar is trash unless in very specific comp doing very specific things... like for Mekkatorque

or s1 boss tbh

[thick crest]

I finally saved my best roll Irzilas, Torrin, Alton... I have only Irzilas...

[pale mural]

casper gets reworked in new version, he will be op

[fresh wyvern]

How to improve? have ghul and gladros and vest too.

[snow ingot]

Improve for what purpose?

[fresh wyvern]

Vortex sorry

[snow ingot]

Show your necro/ice roster

[snow ingot]

Torrin, gladros, Perseus, shinnah, beldelle

[old veldt]

it feels like torrin's healing will bring way more to your comp than megan's cleanse
especially with poison vamp on your beldelle

[snow ingot]

Perseus = tank with witches
Torrin max def&hp + horn if you got + pos behind Perseus
Gladros max atk with chest or pipe
Shinnah+bel max dps

[fresh wyvern]

Poor zhorak, even with +40% derivative he doesn't do well. Even ghul was doing the same or better

For got debuff immunity on gladros! I was so fixated on vest

Tyvm

[snow ingot]

Vest is good but while gladros needs atk for bigger shields the chest would be best option

Zhorak needs Fan + max atk+enl. But he only can work ok with 2 Supports in the team like feliosa+heavy healer

Ib best is with 3 Supports to survive as long as possible. The s3 pairing with psn was nice too. Frur+feliosa were good 🙂

[fresh wyvern]

Is chest fey or pillars? I have been neglecting both 🥺

[snow ingot]

Yes

[rare parcel]

Torrin (much better healer) behind beldelle with solar king horn
beldelle either with poison of swamp or blooms
perseus with witches remains or misty conch
shinnah with booms or witches remains
never really liked zhorak but build him with ATK/Enl,
You can do 2 with Def down with Conch and Witches Remains

[snow ingot]

Gives +10% atk&def to whole team while 5 aff is up

Yea you could put torrin behind beldelle too. But you have to test who Dies first. Tank or dps xD

[fresh wyvern]

Aight let's go test thanks all

[jaunty wolf]

Dont have zhorak but i can only suspect he need probably 3 IB dps to work good looking at how shchalter works. If you put shcalter with sutha only well sutha will do way more dmg than him cos not trigering his derivative dmg enough. Put 2 more dauntless and schalter starts to shine. And if you put that much dps can be challenge to keep them alive XD

[onyx lintel]

Zhorak needs Shinnah and a dps. Got him to work decent with the epic chick and the epic bow guy but... it was almost always better to replace him with a 3rd support

Gerthin and idr the guys name

imo the modifier on his passive needs to be a lot higher

[old veldt]

he is completly changed in new s2, he gives crits with lower damage boost while not scaling on illumination anymore

[flat heart]

Need help trying to put together a rally team without lorentheel

[onyx lintel]

With hopes and dreams or what? For what?

You can do Alton Tathlyn Hegio, alternatively can drop Hegio for Huberg but a lot more uptime of Rally with Hegio imo.

Acillia and the queen of all Ardreth

If you want to do Vortex your team would be 3x support imo. Ardreth Acillia Rose Tathlyn and Alton/Huberg... prob similar results there

Tathlyn is legitimately a solid unit that I didn't really try for the first 2 seasons

Build him on witches, high acc with then crit rate, cdmg, and atk% focus

Have him ult about 1.5s before your dps

He's very similar conceptually to Bleddyn

[snow ingot]

Alton + huberg + thele and 2 supp

[onyx lintel]

Never used Thelendor but is this enough rally?

[snow ingot]

Used alton as enabler before i got Lore. His ult gives 100% rally to all.

[onyx lintel]

I guess you would have to do Rose support then for witches

[snow ingot]

Yea, or ardreth

Alton can use witches too but its much better with lorenthel together that he has rally when ulting xD

Cant remember if he rallys himself. If so, then he can use witches

[flat heart]

Ok thank youuu

[jaunty wolf]

Rose is for sure worth using as support. Attack penalty, heal, clear debuff, recharge penalty, and pasive "if you have buff enemy cant resist debuff" not sure if apply to witch remains but her battle skill give her buff. Not greatest heal but still works.

2 tank options or even 3. 2 dps options.

[hearty pumice]

Hello, How to use IRZILLAS on vortex? im using also Istarian/Sharlach/garius and Questa/voresh

[night pivot]

Between Lorentheel and Alton who's better as an enabler/damage dealer?

[old veldt]

never played rally, but ik lorentheel is always considered top
idk about specifics, so you might wait more accurate answers

[flat heart]

Can’t decide anymore idk what team to focus more on every team is like lacking

[night pivot]

I'm no expert here, but none of them look particularly lacking to me. You have strong damage dealers and supports on all of them. Maybe in term of tanks, sure, but surely you have some epic tanks to fill the role no?

[snow ingot]

Lore is best enabler, both together are very good too

[snow ingot]

Team for what purpose

[solar valve]

the rally enabler is lorentheel and
alton is a sub dps/a bit buffer

[solar valve]

i would say general team shadow
for vortex iceblast probably, but i´m not in S4!

[jaunty wolf]

actually your poison and ice could work but not sure dont have shina so not sure how much would she make ice blast work compared to poison

i would still bet on poison just poison need specific setup

[flat heart]

poison i would need like 200 speed on poison applier

forgot the name but that kinda build is kinda end game

[jaunty wolf]

poison need 175% haste if am remembering exact number right

[flat heart]

early game i dont think i can reach that right now so im thinking of other general best teams

[jaunty wolf]

what i would do if i had oggok

[flat heart]

ye that would be good if i have high speed

[jaunty wolf]

not sure how she is to maybe could add her instead something XD

[jaunty wolf]

yes problem is building need 100% haste from that hourglass and gear to give like 75%

for corrin

[flat heart]

i got hourglass

just the rest of the gear

not achievable now

[jaunty wolf]

so just need to pupm up 75% from gear and runes

it is but takes time probably reason why some ppl go early on for ice blast easier to build

poison need more to build it but lothair can do crazy in vortex

[flat heart]

but i do have shinnah tho right

[flat heart]

im considering that but early game id probably need to have seperate affinity to grind their own dungeon

like focusing on necrosis and ice too much can neglect other teams (and they die easier grinding the mats)

[jaunty wolf]

i dont even have good team stiched together stuff if i had oggok things would be different... But with 175% haste well even with horrible luck on gear this is even low dmg ranges from 100-120

but does need lots of stats compared to other things to work

sold like 20 carnage gauntlets all of them are trash stats

still dont have good ones

[flat heart]

Yah that’s why I need a good team now to progress

Unless poison can work without the 175 haste

[jaunty wolf]

if you have them with shina should do good but well dont have shina so not sure how good my bet it still on lothair if good stats

[jaunty wolf]

its weaker if you cant keep 40 stacks all the time

also saw ozul performing good in vortex

so you do have things that can do good just well what would perform best 🤷‍♂️

[night pivot]

Any help with this bugger? I've got Rava as an enabler and she does great damage as well, but I just can't beat this guy. There are 4 jumpers along the way, 2 of them with the boss and they always execute Rava. If not, the boss does. Also it just keeps summoning new minions before I can kill them.

[snow ingot]

Oggok suxx 🙂

Haste needed for corrin is minimum 176

[snow ingot]

Very bad

[old veldt]

that is still impressive 😄 (250m screen)

[snow ingot]

Just use your best team, you dont need to go for the elemental buff

[night pivot]

I've tried. Got wiped out. 😦 I had more success with the elemental team even when they are mostly not scrolled.

[snow ingot]

Positioning can also make a difference. 2 tank 1 tanky heal together as bait and the dps far away

[jaunty wolf]

I know syna can do better but well you saw adolphus is all i have and and this amazing gauntlets 🤣 😂

Previous season i did more dmg with less stuff just cos of better gauntlets XD

nah give me 50 enlightment on them XD

well atleast i can use them on lothair but not good enough

cant use them on others

[snow ingot]

You could use frur instead of adolphus and use staff on calavera

[night pivot]

The problem is Shagrol and Questa. They jump at my back line and mess me up. I'll try to manual and taunt them off, hope that works. First round Questa, second is Shagrol then with the boss, both at the same time. And I can't nuke them down because enemies have become bullet sponges.

[jaunty wolf]

i tried all thats what performs best problem is if i use him then positioning is messed up and calavera wont remove debuff boss put on team need entire team to be positioned around her to work. I mean there could be maybe way to make that even better but i play other games too so not going to go crazy

[snow ingot]

Put in thia to make your ranges invisible 🙂

[jaunty wolf]

why i dont like that tank even to she is better than most of things you get need to position them to get her protection so there is chance your back line could be grouped close to her XD

[snow ingot]

The debuff isnt this dangerous tho 🙂

[jaunty wolf]

it is when you go to higher stacks it make you take even more dmg

[snow ingot]

Never cared about the debuff after s2xD

Still survive 8-9min

And calas bs debuff removal isnt this consistant

[jaunty wolf]

basically timed to put attack penalty to hit before ulty and last for next attack too. tweaked around adolphus shield no mater how i set it difference not significant enough... So remove deffense debuff and put attack penalty to make boss hit less

[snow ingot]

Cala staff shield+ def up / frur heal with horn and acc to land atk down

[jaunty wolf]

shield from staff on healers that heal over team dont do that great tested it didnt like it.

[snow ingot]

Calas ult isnt hot

[jaunty wolf]

just to get idea what i have on them

was experimenting with different timings end up keeping this could change positioning of adolphus shield but well didnt make enough difference

was experimenting with... ended up not bothering any more just run it like this

and furbath well not enough resources to lvl him when you spend all trying to get carnage gauntlets and all of them are trash XD

[snow ingot]

Tryed it with frur and cala. Survived 7.5min, no dmg reduce affinity skilled

[jaunty wolf]

maybe i should have just given up on carnage gauntlets that could have solved lots of problems XD

[snow ingot]

🤣

[jaunty wolf]

i sold something between 10-20 didnt caunt exactly but all of them are hp, hp%, deffense, deffense %

just stats you want on gauntlets for dps XD

want one of them with attack % and enlightment 20-50 XD

and other ones with crit dmg, crit chance and attack XD

not too much to ask just 2 of them XD

[night pivot]

Not working. 2 tanks (Erdanger, Furbath) not working either. Either the jumpers wipe my back line, or the tanks die. Even with 90-100k hp...
Edit. Never mind. Did it somehow. Had to put the back line all the way to the edge and manual taunt as much as possible.

[jaunty wolf]

@snow ingotneed more tweaking but well i did drop 1 item that buff team to put staff so...

removed this

[jaunty wolf]

think you could be having bit more than team problem like stats or affinity. but you can sometimes group things making appealing for them to jump to something that is grouped so important dps is far in corner or something or stack up multiple effects that protect by grouping all need experiementing cant say like this

@night pivot tried to use her to make back line invisible ?

[night pivot]

Yeah did it just now. Elemental affinity was fine 5/5. I had to put the 3 ranged Felicity, Heksandra, Journ in the last row and Ergander, Furbath in the 1st and 2nd row. Then I had to manual Felicity to nuke down the boss after the jumpers died.

I did use her. But the second invisibility run out, someone got killed instantly. =/

I think a summoner team might have been better here. They could use skeletons to bait the jumpers' ultimates. But it's all good. Boss down and I'll never touch it ever again. >.< Thanks for the help anyway.

[jaunty wolf]

wait till you get shadow team melting all fast XD

just build enough dmg on them XD

[onyx lintel]

Fyi assassins target lowest hp. This is why you build a high def low max hp unit

Esp for arena

[golden pawn]

I've been playing for 7 days, today the heroes reset ends, I have these, which ones do I level up? What teams can I make?

[solar valve]

for Vortex i don´t know if summon is now better in S1. did you try ice/necro and dauntless like this in vortex already to see which one deals more damage?:

ice/necro: Usha, Meggan, Ishitarian, Sharlach, your 5. epic ice archer there for attack down (not sure?).

dauntless: Garius, Catherine, Shaltar, the one beside him (Nimbus i think) and Irina for attack down. (Nathaniel is also great, but same role more or less as Catherine).

poison/fire: Isolde, Sigrid, Eli, Heksandra
and no one for now...

[onyx lintel]

Nathaniel is better than Catherine by miles. His healing isn't as good but his utility is much better

He can also make full use of Solar Horn

[solar valve]

Catherine has debuff protection, that´s why i prefer her.

[golden pawn]

In Vortex I used the Intrepids last, I think it went well... but I'm very ignorant, so I can't say for sure.

[onyx lintel]

Nathaniel dispells debuffs. I forget what the skill haste you need, but you can time his dispell literally immediately after def down

Then he also has shields

And like I said, can make full use of Solar Horn which is huge dmg

[solar valve]

i said, he is great, no need to discuss his value. i prefer Catherine

[onyx lintel]

Oh I meant with vortex you are gonna get better numbers from Nath every time if your timings are correct

I tested this a lot with dauntless

[solar valve]

yeah, cause he has more attack potential than Catherine 👍

[solar valve]

pode ver o ranking para ver si os top usan summon o intrepidos (=dauntless)

[onyx lintel]

It's because he can make you last longer. Shields > healing by a lot, and he also heals

I do like Catherine also and scrolled her too

[solar valve]

i use Acilia in one team and Catherine in the other

[golden pawn]

I didn't know you could see it, I looked and many use black/ice, I was in 15th yesterday, the first ones have better teams, with 2-3 legendaries. Thanks, I'll build based on your suggestions.

[solar valve]

yeah, you can also see the gear they use and artifacts. y Lawyer tambem falou que tem o chat em portugues pra preguntar si voce precisa?!

[golden pawn]

Yes! I sent it there too, but I was anxious and so I came to ask here too 😂

[paper orchid]

Hi guys, can you hellp me? I play S1 , need help with vortex

[solar valve]

necro/ice is probably your best team for vortex
check who you could use for attack down

[paper orchid]

This ? Mb you can suggest a better option, unfortunately Rawa never came out for Synergy...

[paper orchid]

now i use this option, my max 5kk

[solar valve]

i meant this

and i don´t how good premtsa is in our version, since i never had her.
but check the rankings which heroes the top use of the necro summoners you have.

[jaunty wolf]

@snow ingotdroped this out to use staff so 🤷‍♂️

dont work that good 😅

[snow ingot]

What timings?

[jaunty wolf]

🤷‍♂️

[snow ingot]

Try frur and cala with 21.5 or 26.5 or one of them 21.5 and the other one 26.5. Play around xD

[jaunty wolf]

but that means no attack penalty on boss on his ulty

[snow ingot]

His ult hits at around 21.7. His 2nd ability at 26.6

Thats why unkillable comps work 🙂

[jaunty wolf]

his ulty is 20

[snow ingot]

Just try it 😉

[jaunty wolf]

ok

[snow ingot]

Cast time delay at ult & 1st skill

[jaunty wolf]

that means info game give about boss skills is wrong

[snow ingot]

No

[snow ingot]

That means that some skills have a different cast time to hit

[jaunty wolf]

any way with that timing it did work better almost close to what adolphus can pull off but need to try few more times reduce luck factor XD

[snow ingot]

Like f.e. tharivol. He casts his ult but starts Shootingstar 1.5-2s after its finished

Cast time / Animation delay 😉

[jaunty wolf]

but dropping chest of radiance i can see dmg droped on lothair attacks from 96 to 84

[snow ingot]

Yes ot Drops because 10% atk less. But with staff you can survive longer if you do it right. But it all depends on your gear/team comp what will be better. So you have to try out

[jaunty wolf]

well good run on adolpus was going up to 120. so far this setup dont pass 110

any way with lothair ulti its like 96,96,96,96 so now it goes 84,84,84,84 😅

[snow ingot]

Who dies first?

[jaunty wolf]

depends on setup if 21.5 on cale furbath dies first. If 21.5 on furbath rat enabler dies first

with cala on 21,5 and furbath at 26,5

[snow ingot]

Frur has most hp? Becaus 2nd skill Hits target with most hp

The tank that gets this strike can use the other tank set

[jaunty wolf]

o damn that timing is actually way better would totally miss it cos run on speed up

set cala on 21,5 and adolphus on 26,5 and well 😅

it went over 120

[snow ingot]

🙂

[jaunty wolf]

but does seam that adolphus setup works better cos of chest of radiance adding more dmg and deffense

staff drops that to add shield

probably with furbath problem is also that i cant put his acuracy high enough for reliable attack penalty debuff

[jaunty wolf]

@snow ingotty for pointing out about skill cast delay that timing is more consistent hit on 1 try 133

[livid ginkgo]

Can I get some help on who I should use for now?

[jaunty wolf]

😅

[jaunty wolf]

damn it... hard to put up team from just that 🤔 Think i probably would do something like this untill i get better

or maybe instead of bull this guy

most of what you have is supports or tanks and like 1-2 that can dps from that list 😦

[livid ginkgo]

Okay! Got toadstool the legendary just now

Defense but use him?

That’s all the epics I have so unless I use a blue

[jaunty wolf]

some blues are better than legendary so depends what you have

for example sigrid is amazing and is blue

not sure who you mean toadstool 🤔

[livid ginkgo]

Talwer my bad

I’ll send my blues aswell

@jaunty wolf

[lean glen]

Need some advice on who to build first. This is my new start into the season, I have no idea who to pick up to clear goblin for the 1st time and who my first 5 man squad should be.

I might have most of the blue heroes from season 1 and season 2

[severe cedar]

Achistus, Duren, Garius, Zharlot, Voresh can make so many Dungeons.

Goblins: Achitus, Duren, Voresh, Garius, Sigrid

Basicly you can do all dungeons with Achistus, Duren, Garius, Voresh/Zharlot.

If you need penalty like attack down you can use Gardrus as wel..

[jaunty wolf]

o one of kind of fail characters XD keep getting that crap 😅

[jaunty wolf]

well some of blue ones are not bad few others too not just ones i mark but you will need more some need setup (enabler)

not to bad some even good

[livid ginkgo]

Yea not quite sure who to use using the purple ones u picked out for now

Just got garret @jaunty wolf

And bionphray

[jaunty wolf]

well seams that you have most functional things at moment in fire (wild) and poison. Tank healer and few dps. In other things you have some strong things but missing this or that

now that i see what you have in blue probably would go with this but well if you get more characters could change things

garet can do nice dmg and can work with schalter you have 2 options for tank but you dont have healer

[livid ginkgo]

Yea only the blue one really

[livid ginkgo]

So use that combo u have for now then and once I get a legendary or epic healer use them or something

[jaunty wolf]

you want to have 3 of same affinity bonus for now when you unlock more affinity then you want to activate 5 stacks of affinity for more dmg, deffense... bonuses

but you usually want some balanced team tank (i like if tank have taunt or some controll) healer, 1-3 dps, maybe 1 debuffer (attack penalty for example)

some fights you can just dmg all and go trough others you need specific approach

its not just about legendary some legendary are bad some are good.

[livid ginkgo]

Yea that’s true and single target characters for bosses vs aoe fights

Just needed a team for starting off whole progressing

[somber ivy]

In case anyone wonders who's the best for goblins: Aspalta is.

[severe cedar]

Syn is not enough for healing?

[somber ivy]

Syn is not good for powering Swamp. Feenja is way better.

[severe cedar]

I always do with 3 rally + syn + fishman.

but thanks for sharing.

[somber ivy]

I could never get Philto timings right

[severe cedar]

Oh yeah
I do with Thelandor Alton Lorenthel

[somber ivy]

so using fishman just for witch then?

[severe cedar]

def down/tank front

Like this

I have hurbergh there because do not need health

But in the arly (as you are now) I use syn and take out Hurberg

[night pivot]

Any way for me to improve this? First battle was without skill timing, second is with it, but had to sacrifice my better tank gear for more accuracy on Furbath so he can apply attack down, but now the boss is hitting Kassandra.

[cyan cairn]

vortex?

yeah his main damage skill targets the highest HP unit, so if youve had to change to make frur's accuracy right

lower heks hp by changing her gear

Frur's hp needs to be highest for the big Single target damage spike.

do you have tonalnan / errich?

[old veldt]

Yeah it feels like sigrid brings close to nothing rly here beside break atk

[night pivot]

I have Errich, but not Tonalnan.

[old veldt]

Go for it for sure

[cyan cairn]

errich can be your crown holder, and would be a better replacement for sigrid

and the extra wild triggers would help felicity deal more damage, as she will be your main damage source

So replace Sigrid for errich, reduce Hek's hp by changing up her equipment / artifact.

[night pivot]

Hmmm I can try, but it will leave me with only 1 attack down. Also Errich is not scrolled at all. Can he perform better than scrolled Sigrid?

[cyan cairn]

dont need to scroll him, his ultimate is a multi hit, which means you will apply the defense down more reliably.

the goal is to push more damage out of felicity

and without reliable def down from crown of the unclean, it limits your damage windows

[night pivot]

Ok. Will try. Do I need high accuracy on him as well?

[cyan cairn]

yeah for the def drop

iirc in the boss description window, i believe it tells you the accuracy threshold

[night pivot]

No timing and I have been messing around with the gear. Not quite there it seems.

Hmmm now that I think about it, I did not give Errich Sigrid's gear, but made a new one. Maybe the lack of skill haste is the problem.

[cyan cairn]

This is the beauty of DH, is test, go back to thinking, test again

figuring out the correct timing for frurs attack down is a key one, even down to the timing of the boss animations 😉

[fresh wyvern]

Can vicana and corrin do fire poison pillar of trial or am I better off with errich and felicity in wild?

No burn legendary no corrosion main damage 😥

[snow ingot]

Psn sux for pillars :/

[snow ingot]

Frur 21.5/20 +230/280acc and most hp+much def

Folie 12/20, atk SPD set with 230/280acc, runes with max atk SPD and crown arti

Errich and felicity 13.5/20, max dps set crate cdam atk

This you could try. Folie needs to procc wild to do good but you can try this way.
If it doesnt work out, switch errich for crown

[fresh wyvern]

Stuck at pillars 55 any suggestions?

[jaunty wolf]

cant be 100% sure until i try stuff out but i am pretty sure i would use tonalnan instead that anti debuff healer and would do some acrobatics with...

[fresh wyvern]

Is that Tiger guy any good? Haven't even tried

I got to 59 with tonalnan instead of vicuc

[atomic orchid]

qFq_57

[acoustic fable]

https://discord.com/channels/928541801260908546/1146271336822476911

Wrong channel

[night pivot]

I don't have the gear sadly to try this. And there's no point restricting Felicity since I can't get the gloves to improve her damage against def downed targets. That damn thing refuses to drop... but I messed around a bit more with the gear and got a new damage record. Set the timing on Fur as you suggested tho. Came in handy. I suspect I made more damage in large part due to the new rules on the boss.

[jaunty wolf]

can be good cos have unique debuffs can be really strong in some fights but also offten feel like having to run fight few times for things to work with him

if you cant kill stuff fast enough you need to have controll or debuffs that fit fight

stun, fear, blind, silence, taunt, charm...

some fights building around reducing enemy energy and recharge speed penalty can work

but if you have enough dmg you just remove things from map

Vicuc is good but only in specifict fights when enemy have lots of debuffs that they drop on you

[fresh wyvern]

Ty he got me through 59 easy

[rapid whale]

And keep in mind that unscrolled mobs struggle more than fully scrolled ones , you take more time in doing your rotations which is a huge debuff in its own way

[willow nymph]

Hey all, trying to learn more about the game before relaunch. I’ve put together this team (the 5 ice champs, some aren’t 100 yet) for goblin. I’ve since realised I won’t get its full effect because 2 are frost and 2 are ice blast (I didn’t initially realise they were seperate at first but do now). Will it still work?

Or what radiance heroes would you sub in to get better value ?

[solar valve]

the new version is different either way, but for your element affinity you don´t fill them all out as you did.
you focus on 1 path (max 2 paths) first until the end. only then you go back and fill out the rest.
For example if your main team for vortex is iceblast, you go with the ice(+element pairing of that season) nodes first imo.

for vortex: if this is S2, then you use 2 or 3 iceblast (Shinnah and Gerthin for sure) and Garius as tank. then you want one hero with attack down 2 on ultimate

while for goblin you want heroes that deal AOE damage like Vorresh

check out some guides on youtube and show your other elements too and what season you are...

[willow nymph]

ahh so i messed up the affinities, right. and it the game basically vortex > everything?

and yes its S2

ill check some out. follow some dragonheir youtubers but just been mainly messing around for the most part atm til the new release just to pass time in the game and get more used to it

[solar valve]

no, the game is all game.
but vortex and continental challenge and overworld/endboss are the 3 that count for seasonal ranking

in S2 single target dungeons/vortex i would go iceblast, so ice/radiance for sure.

and for the dungeon to get the ice/radiance element crystals you can use your wild team. i don´t have Elminster, so i can´t say which is better between him and Adolphus.

for AOE try a bit. your weakest combo is poison/lightning

[jaunty wolf]

@severe cedar useless account 🤷‍♂️

[old veldt]

tbh, with the reset, you might be able to get a few key pieces you need and that should be great

[jaunty wolf]

i will not cos all is buged and not working right so no

all i can get is more talwar and yatalea that i dont even use

[old veldt]

you will not play at all?

because now with selection at each banners, you cannot miss most of keys as long as you try to manage ressources ^^

[jaunty wolf]

no just my luck in general and also with all that bugs and not working i will not get anything from this events

[old veldt]

you tried to ask for helps from devs? should be easiest way to get something

and if you don't want to, then do with what you have 🙂
i just ended my 7 pity streak with not always amazing results, trust me, if you manage well you can always end up with good results. especially now with selection. If not, you did not try yet enough 😄

[jaunty wolf]

still not last day 🤷‍♂️

am just saying ppl would call that useless account

did skip 10 days of vortex XD

[old veldt]

i am on oldest server, and started S3 with only 4 leg servants. Dw, even with worse start you can always end up grinding back

you have the luck to be able to have some ranking rewards, you got that nice luck 😉

[severe cedar]

That's not useless account

[severe cedar]

well done Enma

Your account and also your ranking are great! 💪

[jaunty wolf]

some of it is testing some of it is actually info from some of ppl here some guys really know what they are talking about

[night pivot]

Got Shook recently and that dauntless legendary today, are there any good teams for tower and labyrinth from these heroes? And for boss fight as well. I'm quite heavily relying on my radiance heroes, but I need a strong lightning team as well sadly.

[night pivot]

Stuck in pillar of light, because the boss heals an ungodly amount, not to mention the mobs before have resurrect. In the labyrinth I just get slaughtered. I don't have the scrolls to scroll up my heroes sadly.

[onyx lintel]

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[stoic solar]

This are all my heroes, any help for Fire/Poison and Full Poison team too.

Today is my last hero reset to set things right 👍

[jaunty wolf]

they are not bad just well there is limit how much dmg they dish out on things like vortex. but dauntless you have are ok and some of thos supports too

[stoic solar]

So for Vortex, the Lightning squad are the best fit for it.

🤔 And For Goblin, Fire/Poison are the best.

Wow, 😳 honestly that's why is saw my Lightning arch guy did way more damage than others during Vortex

[jaunty wolf]

think problem is you went all in on supports and no enough dps martina can do some not bad dmg but well if she is only one doing dmg... Iola can be good in fights nice arua (attack increase) and also have lots of crowd controll and can be used to apply attack penalty and deffense penality if you put enough accuracy and use witch remains or crown of unclean.

[night pivot]

I have a different team for Vortex. These are needed for the Labyrinth in Fae, Pillars of Trial and the daily elemental boss. Forgot it's name. The one weak to lightning.

[jaunty wolf]

Goblins you want something that does lots of aoe and can even reset CD when killing so you can burst more offten.
Vortex you need proper setup 2-3 dps that can do good dmg and something to keep them alive

or 1 crazy dps with 2 enablers

[jaunty wolf]

well need to adjust team to fight you have unless you are just op and dont care.

but you do need more dmg and hopefully you have somethig that apply deffense down on enemy. Time burst after deffense down is applied

[night pivot]

I've tried 2 DPS in my Radiance team, but I take too much damage, so was forced to take more support to survive. =/

[jaunty wolf]

well this is problem then you come to boss and he keep healing up like you said...

also pretty sure if sutha kill something with i think was ulty it cant revive

so maybe could mix her in and try

[stoic solar]

So what even reset CD... 🤔

Only thing I have on equipment is Attack interval reduction

[night pivot]

Aham. I've tried to manually fire off Martina's ult since she is always faster than Lorentheel, but after some time due to Catherine all the timings are out of sync. Not to mention the other dude I used recharges his ult if he has rally. For now I'm thinking replacing the old dude for that Dauntless hero and see what's up.

[stoic solar]

These are the equipment I could get, it's hard getting anything good for now till I get proper gears

[jaunty wolf]

i mean like for example sigrid you apply debuff to enemy they die her ulty recharges faster so can attack more offten

[stoic solar]

I noticed this once too.
Then Sigrid is great then.

Who else again 🤔 among my list of heroes in those pictures does this better

[raw horizon]

https://discord.com/channels/928541801260908546/1221924881495752764

[stoic solar]

Wow thanks, will look this up 😁. Time to explore reading and understanding things better. All have been doing is trying and error to understand better, because people barely talk in game.

Only way to get helps or tips is from Discord

[jaunty wolf]

for me mix of aoe and single target was working on that fight unless you have strong aoe. Martina alone is not enough dmg. Also things that can remove buffs from enemy or apply recharge penalty or drain enemy energy can be helpfull in that fight like lightning rat you have. Attack penalty if too much dmg taken. And about timings you can save team and set timings there

[raw horizon]

you can see more info: https://www.dragonheir. info/

[jaunty wolf]

so can adjust this

but setting number to ones you want without considering how your ultimate recharge is well will not work need to have in mind actually cd so sometimes can slow down and make others wait for your slower characters and synchronize skills like that

can see in my case used rat to go first do 5 hits and delayed lotairs ulty probably could do it at 12 but just put it slower so i am sure rat apply deffense penalty

[stoic solar]

So the timing details on the heroes is what I should first focus on.... Now I am understanding that part. I thought it was by default timing 🤦‍♂️.

Wow, see me overlooking some crucial details all this while

[jaunty wolf]

@night pivotproblem is when you have limited things you need to do lots of testing. Sometimes unusual build can do task you strugle with. So should experiment a little see how things work with Iola and shook. In team and try changing dps... If nothing works wait for more affinity or better gear

[jaunty wolf]

your setup have zero synergy. You basically use as dps poison enabler and you use as dps guy that is supposed to triger lots of follow up attacks... But timing and setup are important. Attack penalty before boss big attacks, shield heal at right moments, Burst after you put deffense reduction on boss so he take more dmg...

[stoic solar]

Oh good. Now I am understanding you more to be honest. 🤝

Thanks for all this tips

Before Global, I will be testing everything you said out to learn more to avoid some fatal mistakes

[stoic solar]

But one thing I want to know is... How do I know an hero that will have synergy with the other

[jaunty wolf]

well some ppl can explain things better than me but team setup is important cant use just what you like to XD problem is when you have limited options need to find something that kind of work

[stoic solar]

Just finished reading your bro.... Thanks for that. 💪

[raw horizon]

https://www.dragonheir.info/heroes you can see in Orientation : 3 wild: casper, flora errich or 3 dauntless :ivelios, tharivol sutha

[stoic solar]

So there must be one thing in union to them... Wow 🤔...

Will check out my heroes and the ones that can enable this.

I once saw Durango + Sigrid be in Union in my old account, was amazed by it. Their attack was hefty

[sage marsh]

I've been running this team for Aschetius for the last few days and a few hours daily and can't get over 380mill, are my timings ok?

[somber ivy]

more or less

[sage marsh]

Any tips?

[somber ivy]

hourglass on Nath, max HP on Joyce, 350%+ CD on Bael

[sage marsh]

Thx, already doing it that way…. Wait, max XP on Joyce? Then Res too?

[somber ivy]

no res at all on no one

[sage marsh]

Thx

[snow ingot]

Joyce = staff + haste

Bael max crate cdam hp