📊┆dragon-lineup-help

[frozen walrus]

Deal big dmg

You need increase deff or dmg reduction and attack decrease

If you don't decrease attack of the boss you cant win

I have very good team lvl 100 and I cant deal without decrease attack

[uncut juniper]

yeah the boss uses some ability and just aoe blasts my team and at some point they die

[frozen walrus]

I can make it bcs I 1 shot the boss before she ulti me

My team to

But I kill boss before boss use ulti

I have burst dmg you dont

So you need heal and decrease attack

[uncut juniper]

what are some good decrease attack rares and epics

[uncut juniper]

letalis i imagine is one

[frozen walrus]

This epic guy I don't remember his name

Had decrease attack

And heal aoe

[uncut juniper]

among the 3 of horus garius frurbath which one to use as main tank for most modes

they all seem super popular and highly rated

[frozen walrus]

He need acc

[viscid dirge]

The key with venom s1 is to get area debuffs so that sigrid can attack all

[viscid dirge]

Garius

[frozen walrus]

Garius

But you need them all

[uncut juniper]

should i refund the exp on frurbath and put it into dane rn?

[frozen walrus]

Lvl 100.. but first garius

No man keep farm

[viscid dirge]

Garius heal is on par with legendaries, but furbath is also good and ive used horrus aswell, all three are good

[frozen walrus]

You will need him

[uncut juniper]

i refunded the exp from horus for frurbath but i guess i should use garius more

[frozen walrus]

Garius your main tank

Its best healer in the game

I heal over 120 k with

[uncut juniper]

how about this account, what teams to run everywhere it has a lot more options

[frozen walrus]

Garius with 1 ulti

You need focus on 1 acc

You cannot play 2 man xd

[uncut juniper]

i literally run out of stuff to do and have to wait for commision or energy regen

[frozen walrus]

Don't tell me you use your extra energy

[uncut juniper]

i just used enough to get that quest thing done before it ran out

[frozen walrus]

This acc.looks better just you need garius

[uncut juniper]

ive used maybe handful breads

[frozen walrus]

Don't use breads

[uncut juniper]

there was this event with the goblin mine thing that i used some energy to clear before it ended yesterday

[frozen walrus]

Wait. You will need Bread late game

[uncut juniper]

rn its switched to graves

[frozen walrus]

Last month

[uncut juniper]

fair i just wanted to get the clear rewards before it ran out

[frozen walrus]

I know

[uncut juniper]

it had bread in the rewards itself and not expensive

[frozen walrus]

Ok then you can keep your second acc and buy garius with 1 euro

[uncut juniper]

keep the one with trolgar?

[frozen walrus]

I have trolgar

Help me a.lot

[uncut juniper]

i mean keep this one?

[frozen walrus]

Ye if you buy garius

[uncut juniper]

i wont spend

[frozen walrus]

1 euro

You have 2 good necro epics

[uncut juniper]

the reason i started this new account was because i had used frost pulls with legs on that and event ended so my pity wouldnt carry over

new account has only done 80/80 pull thing

[uncut juniper]

i got this account as well

this one is lacking on good epics

[frozen walrus]

This acc better

I chance 3 account to when I start

Bcs I had bad legos on first 2 accounts

[uncut juniper]

this and the trolgar one
used pulls on the banners that expired

so some of my leg pulls got a bit fkd since pity does not carry over in those banners, which is why i started that new one

[frozen walrus]

Oh

Look I send you my epic heros

I have all epic heros but I show you the best

So you know what you need

[uncut juniper]

these?

[frozen walrus]

No wait

I send you now

[subtle stag]

Can someone help me out with my timings shown here for Vortex please. I seem to have levelled out on damage after making some good progress

[mental moon]

healer always 21.5s/20s Debuffer always cast 1st follow by dps. Which one is your debuffer with WR?

[subtle stag]

Sutha

[subtle stag]

WR is the only mythic artifact I have got so far

[mental moon]

then for sure your dmg is low because your heroes atk before def penalty.

[subtle stag]

Ah cool, thanks for the advice

[mental moon]

normally for debuffer if without inspiration. Best have 20+ haste. So they can cast faster than dps

[mild pebble]

hello

[ocean schooner]

Nothing to do 😕

I've changed all from the start to the end

Manual

[solar valve]

i am still convinced Irina is useless in your team

[ocean schooner]

It is
But I have no other options for atac pen in my roster

I hate her to

[jaunty wolf]

Damn can you recreate with timers what you did manual?

[ocean schooner]

No because Phil is inconsistent has a ulti recharge faster if he get rally at any time

I think if I scroll the bard I can do decent DMG

[jaunty wolf]

Damn it but timings should make him wait even if recharging ulty

[wind iris]

You can force him to wait to use his ult

Thats what timers are for

[ocean schooner]

I know but I'll lose 1 ulti every 3 ultis of the bard if that make sense

Still Irina is useless here ,but without her pen I can't get pas 15m , I

[worthy cloud]

Can someone help me with Fey?

[worthy cloud]

Nvm. Found out a working CC/Heal/shield team to pass

[worthy cloud]

Never thinked this could work with almost no damage. But my main issue was the enemy's CC 🤣

Ton of Heal, shield, ult down

[ocean schooner]

What a beautiful team 😍

[red wave]

Why wouldnt it work, if theres no heavy healing ull always win

[solar valve]

don´t you time out, if there is not enough damage?

[red wave]

nah, fey enemys are stronger then heroes but they arent even close to boss lvl stats, so i never had a fight longer then 5 minutes, even when i used garius and 4 lvl 1 radiance unit for only radiance level

[ocean schooner]

So you did all Frey with 4 and 4 lvl 1 lol?

[azure sluice]

10 minutes is very long time

[dull crater]

Any banners with Iola coming up?

[ocean schooner]

Think lol is better?

She is not focus on cc?

[ocean schooner]

But I have a banner with loreth in 1 month but I don't think I can get 35 dice to summon there ,but I can hope I'm lky

And hot some decent heros 😁 if I don't get the famous talmer hHa

[dull crater]

She hits multiple times on her ult so is a better choice for defence penalty.

Irina is good in other areas she will strip a buff and shield a hero etc but for main comps against bosses Iola is the better choice

[ocean schooner]

Unfortunately no banners till end of the season

But I can use all of what I gather on this banner got decent heroes

[dull crater]

You might get lucky and get her from purple dice as well

I think Tamar can do what Iola does… I don’t have her but I feel like she’s a Lego alternative…

[dull crater]

You’re right there are some good ones.

[jaunty wolf]

damn that was annoying 😅

[dull crater]

You can always count on shadow to do the work

[rose jetty]

Aschetius boss should use range dauntless and 1 melee tank. His battleskill can knock down Shura and Schaltar quickly

[jaunty wolf]

they do good and that fight is aoe so fits perfectly for shadow

[jaunty wolf]

dont think nimbus would work alone 😅

strongest here is actually Schalter its not sutha. And nimbus is weaker then them

when dont have optons need to find solutions

Catherine for healing, shield and debuff immunity,
Nathaniel more shield, healing (horrible battle skill self locked) and debuf removing. Also dmg buff cos of kings horn
Lola dmg aura (most of options dont have aura), attack penalty 2, apply defense penalty, and dmg buff from cyril armor
Sutha main dps with constant double hit and chance to do more than that to triger as much as possible derivative dmg
Schalter for derivative dmg.

Tried lots of other setup with armor, relics other heroes it alwasy under 22 usually 15-17

drop chest of radience for gate keeper staff and finaly it let me hit 22

They are grouped like that so nathaniel battle and catherine ulty hit them all

[rose jetty]

Do you have Orfenna? she can outmatched all dauntless.

[jaunty wolf]

I wish 2 times pulling and no drop, given up on thunderbolts have Shai and Nissa not even worth leveling

Shai is not bad but alone not bring enough. Nisa is horrible no mater what i try with her

[dull crater]

I’m curious about your rally team. Do you have ranged heroes you can use there? If you do you might be able to put Garius on Aschetius instead

Gitouna doesn’t gain or grant rally so she’s entirely depending on Hegio. What’s your radiance line up like?

[jaunty wolf]

Wanted to split radiant tanks was not enough power so in end went 2 tanks lime you can see in image. Radiant teams legendary rosa and 2 tanks 😅 so hegio is best dmg output 😅

[dull crater]

What was Gitouna s damage like? Do you have like Alvis or Tathlyn? If not I feel like even Evania might work well with Hegio. They each have a chance to grant an ally rally and can potentially boost each other.

[jaunty wolf]

Ardeth rose and sagomir

[dull crater]

I will test

They aren’t levelled but they all aren’t levelled so it’s an even playing field

Ohhhh but she has the captain skill which is quite good (gitouna) hmmmm

[jaunty wolf]

In end scroled gituna offten worked bettet than radiant supports (alvis tatlin) usually end up wasted spot. Could use alvis if i can afford 3 radiant hagio gitouna an alvis for examle. But hagio dont have rally problems. Can work alone or with wellby or gitouna or with martina. But hagio and alvis is just wasted 1 spot on alvis in every fight i did for multiple seasons. Tathlyn is better but still does worse thsn gitouna or martina. Maybe cos not scroled

Alvis is scroled but like i said if its not 3 rally he is wasted slot. Dont do dmg, cant use 15% armor buff, cant apply deffense down, rally is only 40% chance so just waste. If hagio + gitouna + alvis he will give ulty buff to 2 rally and this start to be better. But that mean tank and support have to keep you alive and support or tank have to apply deffense down so this start to make problems.

[dull crater]

Yeah the supports don’t do nearly as much damage. If they can boost your main dps then it becomes worth it but if not then you’re right about the space waste

I think rose and Ardreth could do it.

[jaunty wolf]

Tried was not enough at moment so went with 2 tanks

[dull crater]

What week of cc are you on?

[jaunty wolf]

2nd

If i had maxed affinity would be different but cant have all

And tank set keep droping with dmg stats 😅

[dull crater]

Rude.

[dull crater]

That’s so annoying when that happens. I’m farming runes right now and I have enlightenment runes and no attack

[jaunty wolf]

Any way droped that screens maybe could give some ppl some ideas when also dont have good enough options 😅

[dull crater]

Oh absolutely!

[dull crater]

I think That’s part of what makes this game great. There are so many different combinations to try - there is always a different angle. Obviously the game has its low points as well but the team building is a high point for sure.

[jaunty wolf]

Hagio tends to recharge ulti faster cos of battle skill and can self rally. When he does ulty if he have rally he give his team rally. So hagio and gituna end up hagio ulty. Most likely buff gituna so she jumps to lowest hp target and soon after does ulty that have bonus true dmg cos of hagios buff..

Tends to work but depends on fight.

[astral heath]

Aladiah needs a shield provider to work right? Cause she only provides shield for first 15 secs

[rare parcel]

Her ultimate provides shield and CC immunity to all allies

[astral heath]

Ooo completely misread that

[rose jetty]

Shield from gate keeper also applies - atk down with her passive.

[astral heath]

Gonna go into abysolossus. With 1 corrosion, 1 rally, 1 wild, 1 dauntless, 1 ice blast and then deciding between frost or burn for last team.

If I do go frost it's actually between 2 teams : hochadir, usha, auster. Or trolgar, Rava, usha. What y'all think?
My burn team has karf,percival and araces, and araces does almost 2 mil per ult.

No scrolls

[azure sluice]

It's decided mostly by your healer, because there's few healer so good they can solo heal and thus you can bring 4 dps. Garius, Ardreth, Acilia, Frurbath, Oggok, Torrin, Thia, Estella (both using Everlasting Diamond), Feenja, Nathaniel, and few others I don't remember. Look at what you have and see which team that could use them. I also used Staff Sifris + Voresh with 3 ice blast.

[red wave]

1st place 🥳

[rare parcel]

Congrats

[red wave]

a month ago i was worried i wouldnt be able to get 22 million on half of the teams, thats so weird

[jaunty wolf]

so your poison team is weakest 😅 Good thing sigrid and eli can do some nice dps based on fight.

[red wave]

Poison s1 is in general just super weak, all of the dmg is in legendary heroes, no epic or rare can produce high dmg, atleast not without mythic artifacts

[jaunty wolf]

Curious how did Rhash perform compared to Felicity ? Have him but didnt care to scroll him seam like weaker than wild options i use

[red wave]

rhash deals about the same dmg

[jaunty wolf]

stil skeptical to be honest about him XD

[red wave]

both rhash and felicity are unscrolled in my team so, they also deal about the same dmg, umm is like Filicty deals something like x3 240-260k with ulti and rash deals 690-750k depending on my team, felicty has the better skill ofcourse but without support its 50/50 to trigger so

[jaunty wolf]

Have Lothair and Jathalea but not that impressed compared to Eli. To be honest i dislike Jathalea. Lothair is not bad but need good setup and well mele so can be problem sometimes

[jaunty wolf]

triple cast should be battle skill

[red wave]

i think you need corin with 178 haste? then lothair can shine

[red wave]

filicty ulti deals 370% atk three times

[jaunty wolf]

but some fights corin dont work cos bosses reset stacks. Like jump out of map and return no stacks. So in those fights well need something that setup fast or it dont work good enouhg

[jaunty wolf]

you mean that. Was thinking talking about chance for triple cast.

[red wave]

rhash also reduces he's ulti recharge by 20% so even without scrolls fairly low cooldown

[jaunty wolf]

without scrols his dmg looked horrible last time i tested him compared to felicity and Errich

[red wave]

um no errich should be alot worse

[jaunty wolf]

actually works good for me but felicity is stronger. Also most of ppl build errich as support.

cant really compared support setup to dps setup

strange part is that even in aoe fights felicity was keeping up with errich

just good design

[red wave]

felicty deals waay more dmg then errich like max dmg errich ulti can do is like 1020(with wild), and rhash does 1200(with wild) also rhash has 100% wild check if he has he's passive up which felicity provides, and errich has to get there over time

and rhash without scrolls has like 19.5 ulti cd while errich without scrolls is still 23 seconds

so idk how rhash can be same dmg as errich

[jaunty wolf]

Erich description is so not fully spot on... But he can get to point where his ulty does 1100 if considering wild then higher. But all this is on paper not fully calculated stuff i saw in action how he can do thats what i trust more than on paper and in theory

If description is to trust than erich ulty would do 2420%

((150% +70%) x5) x2.2

[red wave]

Is that how it works? Because errich's ultimate is 1 wild check so how did you get x5 wild checks?

[jaunty wolf]

well like i said they didnt really specify enough so if not clear description i care more about seeing it in action than description

[red wave]

i understand you want 5 attacks of 1 skill to count 5 times for he's passive but it doesnt

[jaunty wolf]

but passive say when skill does dmg and pass wild check does extra 70% of attack. There are 5 attacks... So based on that not precise description this would mean what i said not sure if thats how works

so in situations like this i care more what i saw hero do in actual fight

[red wave]

As you might notice in errich passive description it says "Whenever the hero performs successful wild check, the hero's >> SKILL << additionally deals 70% atk dmg.

[red wave]

1 wild check 1 70% atk dmg boost

[jaunty wolf]

maybe but didnt care to check if it tiger like that or not. Saw it in action and dmg was not bad in fights Not scrolled Rhash i didnt like his dmg previous season so dropped him cos resources are limited

[uncut juniper]

any of these two useful?

[azure sluice]

Eh, later on Errich is recommended as DPS with Tonalnan. Felicity is the one that I start to build as witch remains support

[azure sluice]

Now grind for more potion so you can spread out your damage over few more teams. Have you checked the 22M f2p otherworld team recommendation?

[red wave]

Nope but i got an idea, planing to replace frurbath with altin and make another fire/poison team and i can deffinetely split by radiance team in to 3-4 more, then its a matter of spreading the others team dmg dealers with suports and tanks shouldnt be too hard

[uncut juniper]

Damn that first and last team look so doable

[red wave]

Its just look good, trust me a month ago i really wasnt confindent in doing good at all, but it all worked out pretty well.

[red wave]

They both are insanely good, and Berenger is the Necrosis Exclusive so basically unit that you can get only randomly - will never appear in celestial summons and stuff, he is super strong to.

[uncut juniper]

Thanks I'll try fitting them somewhere

Hochadir guy seems to be interesting for goblin so far

[red wave]

Its not about fitting them in.... you cant get an exclusive unit, only randomly ppl who pay and play from the start might not have him

well its an exageration but ya exclusive units are like omega rare and also very strong

[uncut juniper]

One account pulled journ

[uncut juniper]

Well that's good lol

[red wave]

That ones also really good, basically carried me whole of early/mid game

[ocean schooner]

Guys need the last team for the end game boss

I was thinking corrosion

I need 20m DMG

The ib team I've built is to week...only 3/4m don't understand why
Ice/poison can I make it 20+m corrosion

How is this ?

[wind iris]

Gegnu out, Sabrina in

[ocean schooner]

Ok

Sacredeia or whisk

Ho do i scroll?

[turbid flume]

Whisk

[ocean schooner]

Ok

[ocean schooner]

Help

I don't understand how corrosion work

How the ulti works and the timer

Wasted resources to build it lol 😂 can't go pass 5m

[wind iris]

Witches carrier goes off before corrosion applier (whisk) and rook goes last

Or in your case, sabrina last

Instead of rook

If you struggle with defdown with sacredeia, take dargo or gegnu

Dargo better than gegnu

There need to be 3 sec between dargo ultimate and whisk, and than another .5 for sabrina

[ocean schooner]

Wasted resources to build it lol 😂 can't go pass 5m

[ocean schooner]

I put wisk as the armour debuff

And I put the rest at 30a

[wind iris]

Whisk wants Power, hogh ark, crit cd

[ocean schooner]

Wisk is at 29.8
Sabrina is at 30

And the other one is at 30 s

[azure sluice]

Do you have everlasting diamond or Solar king horn? Oggok and Frurbath can solo heal, so you can split them. For IB, you can have Sifris with staff + Voresh with attack & HP + Monelisse set, then add 3 IB dps. For corrosion, Oggok Whisk Gegnu Sacredeia and Dargo with witch remains (Sabrina for S4). Poison need specific positioning, look up in youtube how Gorax or Van Horn Gaming positioned their dps with Frurbath, but you can have Lothair Durango Frurbath Corrin and maybe Eli to apply witch remains.

[azure sluice]

Honestly, while the damage is strong, you can fight the boss with certain solo healer + 4 dps, like Ardreth and Garius doesn't need other healer (and Journ is bad here, because he'll receive a lot of damage from the toxin). Nathaniel also solo healer, so you can build shadow team around him.
Seriously, look up Van Horn guide on S3 boss solo healer, that might boost your damage tremendously

[ocean schooner]

I can't I have te poison team with them 2 doing 160m DMG

I need 2 more teams but I cant pass the 5m mark with what I have left

[dull crater]

I have never used Sabrina or The corrosion Lego queen lady so I can’t really speak to their damage but honestly my go to when poison is slacking is just replace someone with Sigrid in a full damage build. Probably Sabrina I would say. But I’ve never used her so I’m not entirely sure

[azure sluice]

Have you at least tried to split them first? The boost on your corrosion team with one of them might be much more than the damage loss from not fielding both

[lean vigil]

the legendaries that came were: Premtsa, Tamar and Trolgar. Are any of these any good?

[dull crater]

I always get stressed when I come up against trolgar in fey.

[dull crater]

Three that is crazy luck

[rare parcel]

Tamar is especially good in Arena with high accuracy and skill haste.
Trolgar is a good assassin type melee and with Lossenia or other Frost appliers a monster!
Premtsa can do good but I never played her so don't really know. Sry

[rose jetty]

Tamar is one of best key heroes for Phoenix Dunegon. I used her to farm that dun in 4 seasons

[balmy compass]

Tamar is clearly a pvp character. She can help in PVE, but she becomes really powerful in PVP

As @rare parcel said, Trolgar is a killer with some good frost enabler, in PVE or PVP

[royal yew]

Does Eli need crit rate/dmg or just purely attack/enlightment?

[somber ivy]

standard cr/cd build with any extra enl on subs you can bring

[uncut juniper]

how is this guy, all those debuffs makes me think he might just be a good support

[turbid flume]

Quite good especially for single target enemy or boss. However his debuff are random.

[uncut juniper]

was thinking of vortex or dungeon bosses for the equipment and leveling mats

berengar dude has been doing really good in goblin

[viscid dirge]

For those that need ideas

[rose jetty]

finally

[dry citrus]

@viscid dirge which continental bosses did you find easiest? Yfeir and Shinnah?

[viscid dirge]

Yfeir then shinnah then quest then Astu, i tried to stay away from rook andfathomdown

In https://discord.com/channels/928541801260908546/1227320533029228574
I made an hour long video of my 14 teams which turned into 12, im uploading the last two soon

Yfeir is great for the AOE teams coz of himself making copies

[dry citrus]

makes sense

[viscid dirge]

It was a fluke for me coz i kept getting my booty kicked by fathomdown with my frost team and then just tried it and bam 22m

[dry citrus]

how long did it take you to average the 22m? I'd like to avoid lvling them up to 95 if possible

In S3 I was able to run multiple heroes as lvl 1, 50, 70 and some 90

so essentially I'm asking if it's necessary to level up the heroes as much as you did

[viscid dirge]

Well for frost, f2p corrosion, f2p IB, and the summoning team the lvl95 is a must coz it takes almost 5minites but most of the big hitters got to 22m in less than 3min

Id say test the big hitters with low level and see, you can always add levels but can never take away level

[dry citrus]

yep that's my plan thx - just getting your feedback to align my expectations

[viscid dirge]

All good, it was lots of trial and error for me and because im f2p wasting pots is awful so i had to use what i had to make 14 teams, adjust healers by giving strong dps weak healers and vice versa, i even gave shadow a shielder coz i couldnt waste a healer on them because of how fast they damage, i then split up big dps teams to help my weaker ones so in the end that was what i was left with and only had one hero left that wasnt used

[dry citrus]

very good, sounds like you made it, man

[viscid dirge]

I was surprised my summoning team did well when they arent even scrolled

[somber ivy]

Actually I would say Rook is by far easiest boss in S4 since you can easily control who gets hit, so you can use low level supports/dps, only 2 melee heroes have to be leveled. Same Quae, only 2 heroes are hit, but she's more annoying cos rng. Shinnah and Fathom are problematic to use very low level toons as they die quickly and then the rest of team gets more damage. Asch is technically simple to deal with, you just need good heal plus attack down. Yfeir is more tricky if you want to direct him to target only 2 heroes but once you do he's easy.

[viscid dirge]

I always struggle with rook and fathomdown i cant fight them i have ptsd from them, only one of my teams does fathomdown and thats iB, quaesta hits 3 guys but she is ok just work faster,
I found shinnah to be easy aswell as yfeir if you get your healing right.

But it shows how each person sees the bosses which is quite cool! And it helps everyone who needs help

[somber ivy]

Yeah, I mean I'm very fond of using lvl 1 fillers in those fights, saves a lot of goblin runs. But it does not work against bosses that have multiple single target hits.

[viscid dirge]

Ive never tried lvl 1 fillers before

[red wave]

Those legendary's are blinding my ego

[red wave]

Why not? Depending on the season but theres more then 1 legendary's that can do 22 million basically on their own if the fight last 5 minutes so why lvl more units, probably even epic units

[azure sluice]

Problem is Rook need ranged dps. Shinnah hit hard but open to melee, and there's many good fire melee dps

[teal sail]

You have s1 new update?

[viscid dirge]

Never thought of it, as f2p ive always had to build max stack teams, just didnt occur to me that i could try it

[viscid dirge]

No, that update is only s1

[jaunty wolf]

Pillar 60. Funny how much easier it is with ice or shadow than other 2. And radiance was actually easier than fire 🤣

[somber ivy]

It is not that bad. One of my 22M teams consists of Ardreth, Thelendor and 3 lv 1. The other uses Garret as one of dps (and yes, he's lightning hero hitting radiance boss cos its easier).

[dry citrus]

what was your rough split between the 15 teams? How many vs Rook, Yfeir etc

[somber ivy]

3: Shinna, Rook, Fathom, 2: rest

[dry citrus]

ok so a wide spread

[wind iris]

I do 2 2 2 2 2 5 yfeir 😆

[somber ivy]

It is mostly taking CC teams split in half. 3rd rook team is extras I leveled up when testing my new teams for Asch and Rook. Then specifically made Burn and Frost teams.

[dry citrus]

think I used 7-8 teams vs the radiance boss in S3

was mega easy to deal 22m with multiple teams regardless of their affinity

[somber ivy]

I did 15 teams vs him once 🙂

[dry citrus]

hehe

I reckon most AOE dmg dealers will thrive vs yfeir

[worthy cloud]

Hey. What i need to aim for endgame boss in S2? Seems like the maximum damage is almost impossible. Or my artifact, gear and teams are not built for this

[viscid dirge]

Well you can post which bosses you up against coz some of us havent seen s2 for over a year and then post what units you have and players can guide you

[worthy cloud]

The endgame boss is:

Radiance:

Ice:

Fire:

Necrosis:

Poison:

Lighthing:

My issue is to build teams to achieve maximum damage

I get near 70,but thats all

[worthy cloud]

Do i need to post artifacts too?

[viscid dirge]

That does help aswell yes

Well to answer one of the questions i build him enlightenment and attack and usually use the fan on him

[somber ivy]

Mekka is super easy: go with AoE dps like Sigrid or Vidimir, Zharloth etc. Also include one mega debuffer like Pargu, Nessa, Stegamuffin. Even Talwer is great there.

I see you have Jatha - she can do 100M alone.

Karf does damage based on Enl with every skill

[viscid dirge]

Because he does better damage, he doesnt need crit/crit damage pile the enlightenment and attack

[worthy cloud]

Do i need to aim with timing?

[somber ivy]

absolutely

[viscid dirge]

Ah if i remember correctly, this is the boss with the little dudes that come put to play, the biggest key here was to do ults when the minions appeared to wipe em out as quickly as possible

AOE did big damage if you could hit all the minions, i also remember putting all my guys on the one left side of the map

[viscid dirge]

@worthy cloud if you go here https://discord.com/channels/928541801260908546/1044121075807703131 and type mekka you will also find videos on the boss

Ill take a look at what groups i can make for you now now

I didnt ask which elements are together

Felosia,lucien, hochador,auster, vidimir/dorkuraz

Sharla h, gaiolore,premsta or irzillas,berenger and estella or any other healer/shielder

Oggok, ergander, durango, vicama, jathaela

Mithrasa, lorentheel, huberg, tathlyn/nissa as you dont have hegio and then rose

Healer, tank/support, schalter, nimbus, shagrol

Adolphus, errich, tonalnan,caraman, horrus

[somber ivy]

ah, no, for fire it is definitely Araces, Karf, the rare burn that gives 20% attack forgot-his-name

[viscid dirge]

Goid catch

[viscid dirge]

Oh i used ton(legendary), errich and other wild epics, then got rhash which was then errich, rhash, ton, got casper and switched him around with rhash then got Felicity so it was felicity, errich, ton

Errich always on witches

I cant remember damage but you can get quite high damage and if you have casper you always let him ult before the others if you can coz his ult works on successful wilds, rhash is cool coz he has the fastest ult speed out of them

End of the day exclusives make the power team but i dont have flora either

Build tonton with attack, crit and crit damage (if you guys dont have the root artifact yet then any crit type artifacts), errich full om witch hitter and Felicity built similar to tonton

You wont get whale damage but you should be fine against singular bosses

Whats awesome about tonton is their crit damage increases with each successful wild to 20 stack so in beginning she is slow but later she just bashes

Lotta players trolled errich but ive used him for 7 seasons

[somber ivy]

Well, I can give comparison on S4. Errich, Fel and Tona were below 100M on CC. With Flora instead of Errich I hit 150M.

[viscid dirge]

Thats after collecting i was lucky, you see i use wild, i love wild for single targets just like dauntless and their epics and rares almost all are S to C rank so pretty much everyone is useable

[jaunty wolf]

o damn that one effects like electricuted and poison did do really good dmg even with missing heroes for that

[azure sluice]

Endboss you can fight with 1 solo healer like Staff Garius + 4 wild. I did with Felicity (witch remains), Errich, Tonalnan, and Alfie with haste

Just use Karf as applier. Araces remove burn and deal damage that scale to his attack, nothing to do with burn explosion.

[red wave]

Does flora really do that well without her artifact?

[viscid dirge]

Ive seen her teams do big damage in vortex etc (of course so where near rook) and exclusives make a team go beyond the norm ànd with their artifact's even further

[west void]

Need suggestions for vortex team, early in server. Most people use scharlach - isitarian (not willing to skill them up). Ripekas is there just for affiliation bonus. Also have witch remains

Thinking to get questa up and sub ripekas

[west void]

Anyone?

[amber atlas]

Most characters say if they’re good for vortex or not in the info section. I would personally refrain from using summon for vortex

[acoustic fable]

As you have Tonalnan you can go wild once you get Errich. And if you manage to get dauntless legos: they do pretty well against single targets. 🙂

[west void]

That's what I'm aiming for, hopefully I'll pull some

[west void]

Me to but they still do more than anything I have atm

Tried wild but they don't do as much

[acoustic fable]

As you use Ripekas only for the elemental bonus you can try Eleuia for more summoning damage instead. 🙂

[amber atlas]

lol I feel ur pain. Once I got some more characters I switched to ice for vortex. Mix in some dauntless if possible. Still waiting for decent wild characters for vortex.

[steel nebula]

Any suggestions or known team comps doing high dmg for S4 Chief Challenge Yfier, with no Ozul or Torrin?

[hallow bolt]

Not the best teams, but I have what I have they do the work not bad at S4🫠

[thick granite]

Are these timings good for vortex?

[teal sail]

What is the cooking method?

[teal sail]

Thx bro 🙏

[red wave]

That dragon resembles chines ghulande 🤔

[uncut juniper]

Doesn't he also have attack debuff that can be good there

[acoustic fable]

Can be. I don’t have him and just referred to the original post.

[uncut juniper]

I remember a 50% attack debuff since I also use him sometimes

Think there's a whole bunch of other debuffs too

[acoustic fable]

That’s the original question:

#📊┆dragon-lineup-help message

[west void]

So, got errich and levelling him up now. What team would you suggest?

[hallow bolt]

I need advice on how to beat pillar of light S4 LV 60 Not enough time

[acoustic fable]

Errich with witch‘s remains, Nedda and Tonalnan (best crit damage gear) and 2supports.
Good luck! 🙂

[west void]

Thanks!

[dull crater]

you could try moving oggok to 29 seconds? Maybe Krysos at the 20/21 second point?

[uncut juniper]

What kind of teams use Adolphus what modes is he used at, I did build him tryna figure out where to fit him

Let's say Teams without legendaries

[rare parcel]

Arena, Dungeons, Continental Challenges, Otherworld Exploration

[wind iris]

Isolde and adolphus are a great combo as tank/support and you can run the wild with them alnodt anywhere

[uncut juniper]

Idk if I have Isolde, I do have Felicity now

Adolphus is said to be a good s1 epic but looking at him doing pretty much only shields idk how effective he is unless these are some insane shields

[hallow bolt]

Lol Many repetitions and I managed to win it 🫠

[red wave]

Good job!

[acoustic fable]

Shields improve the healing of Frurbath which scales with def. So Adolphus or Isolde pair very well with him in S1. 🙂

[red wave]

He's passive lets him heal, and dont underestimate 15% energy up from he's skill that enables some very good combos

[jaunty wolf]

🤣 😂

[wind iris]

Use a second supporter and drop the lvl93 orc

Gegnu tanky with witches, dargo for dmg and Sabrina too

[red wave]

Its close

[jaunty wolf]

Its sad how they perform 😅

[jaunty wolf]

Orc did better than sabrina any way

Did do 2nd support didnt change

[subtle stag]

What is your timings like with this team as Drogo has a slow attack from casting till it hits the boss

[jaunty wolf]

I know delayed orc 2 sec. Sabrina 2.5. After his ulty.

[subtle stag]

Ah cool, yeah it took me a while before I found a balance with the corrosion team

[jaunty wolf]

Or was or 3 and 3.5 know was tweaking. Any way sad how they perform. Drop crit chance increased crit dmg on sabina and orc and it worked out replaced. Purple cristal head. With rare corosion orc and it worked out enough for 22

[subtle stag]

Sad that the corrosion has such a massive reliance on having Rook to be able to put out the massive numbers. I got lucky and pulled Whisk who does great fast burst damage but still no where near the numbers that Rook teams pump out

[jaunty wolf]

But sad how they perform

[red wave]

Rare units are the mvps

[jaunty wolf]

He brings aura. Others dont

Also can do corosion setup with basic attack so nice thing. Some of rare actually are usefull

[red wave]

you also got a few lvls and lasted 40 seconds longer

imho u had 15 mill in 4 minutes so if u last 5 minutes then ur basically there

[jaunty wolf]

Well tried 2 supports boss dmg goes up so eventually if its not revive, imortality or insane shield they will die...

So solution is to try to make dmg work better... but ork actually did better than sabrina and as you sam "drop orc" focus on maxing sabrinas power. This does s3am to be popular opinion trough videos and stuff

[red wave]

my rare team beats you up like a child! 🤣

[jaunty wolf]

O that rare archer is underated can do way better than ppl think

Would not be suprised if with bit more tweaking you make that go even higher

[red wave]

nah its a throw away team, pretty sure i will have to split fire or radiance team in 2 for the 6 fights on the end boss. this one deals way to little dmg

[jaunty wolf]

Eli passive skill is not bad, 55% of attack derivative dmg on every attack... can pull off some nice number. Noting crazy but its not bad

some of thing probably can do better but no time to tweak things

[red wave]

who cares if it works dont fix it 🥳

[uncut juniper]

what would be a good arena 5man team with these
garius voresh zarloth are scrolled and berengar

[dull crater]

I find the combination of Voresh and Sigrid to be pretty good. Make sure Voresh is faster than Sigrid and build Sigrid for as much damage as possible. And then whoever /healing /tank/ Cc you need to fill it out. Questa also has the potential to go crazy in an arena as well.

[uncut juniper]

the times i usually lose it seems the enemy just ults faster and i get wiped sooner do i use skill haste or attack speed gear to fix that or other solutions?

[dull crater]

Yeah that’s the trick is to be faster than the other team so you can use two sets that give skill haste.. you can use “assassin “ type heroes that will run and attack the back line on a battle skill before the other team ults. I remember I saw someone using questa + Caramon season 1 and they wiped the back line quickly. You can use stun sets as well. If you can stun them you can slow them down. Ripekas is a good option for that as well!

You can use traveller as ice for shields or someone else who shields.

[uncut juniper]

level 140s i can only manage because of berengar everyone dies in the beginnin and he just solos

[dull crater]

Yeah I like Berengar a lot against teams with a lot of healing.

[uncut juniper]

sending pic for dungeon teams actually but taking time to upload lol

these dungeons been rough past 140

[dull crater]

If you can dispel or block the burn stacks from the boss it’s gives you a better chance. Catherine, Enna , Vicuc, etc plus shields or attack penalty…. Does Berengar do attack penalty I can’t remember.

[uncut juniper]

do have catherine

[uncut juniper]

my shield guy is adolphus and he takes more dmg from fire dungeon i guess

[uncut juniper]

berengar has no attack penalty as far as ik but i can maybe use ripekas for that that guy has 50% but he does get one shot too maybe i need to get to lvl 90+

[dull crater]

Ripekas debuffs are random so you can’t always count on attack penalty being up

[uncut juniper]

i give skill haste attack speed and pray

[dull crater]

How far into the season are you?

[uncut juniper]

its close to 3weeks

which epic is worth scrolling next after voresh zarloth garius

im also tryna see if i can make a good goblin team with eli sigrid voresh berengar and someone else

[dull crater]

I was just looking to see if you have Frurbath . Um for scrolls I would say a good long term and short term choice is Iola. She’s a top choice for attack penalty every season in the continental boss challenges. And I would put her in your flame team with Catherine.

Either time or manual Catherine to block debuffs at the right time and Iola to apply attack penalty to cover two skills from the boss.

[uncut juniper]

i do happen to have lola so i guess i can level her

[uncut juniper]

how to adjust timing for it

[dull crater]

Let me check my team

[uncut juniper]

any vortex recommendations, the only team i can somewhat copy is a wild felecity team that requires tonalnan tha i dont have

my own teams dont do all that great

[dull crater]

I don’t have any timings on my team right now. I. Using Garius , Catherine. Iola , Voresh (who has Witches remains) and Shagrol but I could replace with another damage dealer he works for now.

Catherine needs to block debuffs but if you can’t get her on an 18 second rotation it can be tricky to time it so it might be worth it to run the fight up to the boss and see what you need to adjust based on how much skill haste each hero has. Alternatively you can try to have Garius heal everyone up and then have ‘Catherine ult because she will shield if she overheals.

[uncut juniper]

these guys seems to be the only ones that dont run legs i dont have but they have epics i dont

[dull crater]

I have Catherine Scrolled as well as Iola and Garius. I know I’ll use them for all seasons going forward

[dull crater]

Do you have felicity doing damage or doing defence penalty? Also I think you could swap out Berengar for someone else to do damage, you don’t necessarily need another tank other heroes will do more damage. You would do better with attack penalty.

[dull crater]

Sigrid would do more damage than him im pretty sure plus she can provide attack penalty.

[uncut juniper]

she does as much dmg as isitarian the two are main dmg

i have the defense penalty relic on voresh

[uncut juniper]

probably but berengar also does nearly as much dmg as felicity and isitarian since he is full scrolled lol

[dull crater]

Ahhhhh ok ok

[uncut juniper]

i can just test a run rn with sigrid her dmg was lacking so i put her out used her before

[dull crater]

In vortex you will usually have one or two heroes doing all the damage right. Everyone else is there to boost them. And keep them alive.

Oh! How long are you surviving?

[uncut juniper]

which one to go with

[uncut juniper]

think its like 10mins ill test rn after deciding on aura

[dull crater]

Personally I usually go for crit damage. You can always try in training grounds and run like a three minute test to see what works best instead of trying a whole 10 minute run in vortex

[uncut juniper]

will test real quick now for 3min

difficultry3 takes 30% more necro dmg so thatll be nice

[dull crater]

Oh yeah might as well take advantage of that this week.

The buffs change every week

[uncut juniper]

i only unlocked diff3 today so will see how it goes

3min test with crit dmg

u can see why i have kept berengar there lol

attack did a little more but could be crit rng

[dull crater]

Who has the highest HP and takes the big single hit from the boss?

[uncut juniper]

berengar should be the highest hp i think but everyone died after like 5 6 minutes except him

put in sigrid now

i get garius 90+ and will give him a try

sigird over voresh did much worse but will try some combos and see how it goes

[dull crater]

I think if you can first see if you can survive a bit longer that would be a start

What kind of timings are you using on your team?

[uncut juniper]

i had a death with that team in the first 3mins so it didnt go well, but ill try putting garius in and see if he changes survival much because atm max dmg was 7m

[uncut juniper]

that is a good question because i never messed with it

[dull crater]

See what happens if you have your damage hit after defence penalty every time

[uncut juniper]

how do i adjust that i know about manual ults buti mean the timing thing u set

[uncut juniper]

idk if or what i should change tbh, my voresh ults sooner than isitarian berengar felicity and applies the defense penalty for those 3 next ults

think the sequence is fine here

i have the crown on voresh to apply defense penalty when he ults

[dull crater]

If they aren’t scrolled I think they are on like a 23 second rotation… So probably you’ll want to put Voresh at like 11.5 and 23 seconds repeating and then isitwrian at 12 seconds and 23 seconds … Felicity might do better if you don’t time her but you have to test. She recharges her ultimate energy every time she crits

[uncut juniper]

ill give it a shot after this test run to see how much difference it makes vs default

[dull crater]

But Berengar is slower on his first skill so again you’ll have to see

Should still be fine

If your damage isn’t hit their ultimate when defence penalty is applied you’re missing out on a bunch of damage so it’s def worth it to see what timings work best

It’s annoying vortex is so slow season 1

[uncut juniper]

anyway i appreciate it i will give it a couple runs see what happens, i will have more options once i have leveled a bunch of folks to91

[dull crater]

Cool cool cool hope you find a combo that works!

[uncut juniper]

well the first 3mins are hardly any different

6.9 with the timings identical without

[dull crater]

Interesting!

Maybe they just naturally lined up in a way that they were already taking advantage of it

[uncut juniper]

i think for the timings to work u need to figure out how long u survive then adjust timing to cover all cycles because altho ur sequences may be good with the timings u enter, rng should affect it and the cycles get screwed after some rotations and maybe its just more necessary for certain heroes than others

garius added 1more mil after replacing voresh

[dull crater]

When you say the cycles get screwed up what are you referring to?

[uncut juniper]

i mean if u adjust the timings doesnt that stay that way for every skill rotation and different variables can still make someone ult sooner or later so its not stable sequences

i can see it being more effective in short battles

but the longer it is more rng involved no?

[dull crater]

Nothing messes with skills timings on vortex so that shouldn’t happen unless your timings don’t line up with what your heroes actually can do. The boss doesn’t mess with your ultimate energy at all so the only reason they would get out of sync is if their timings are less than what they are actually capable of .

can you do me a favour?

[uncut juniper]

yes

[dull crater]

Can you screen shot your timings you tried and also

[uncut juniper]

like u mentioned felicity with crits recharging thats rng isnt it

[dull crater]

sorry one sec my iPad died lol

Yeah but if she’s locked In with timings she will only ult when she’s timed

[uncut juniper]

u mind if i just pm u the stuff so i also show gear and stuff i use

says server under maintenance

[dull crater]

yeah yeah absolutely

[uncut juniper]

might have been my vpn being on u.s

[royal yew]

What build is better for Eli? enli/att or att/crit dmg and rate?

[subtle stag]

Do I got lucky and pulled Lothair on one of the S1 profiles and am currently pairing with Corrin but would like to try for a lego poison enabler as well. Which would be better to aim for, Durango or Twitch? I also have the poison bow chick Vicana.

[wind iris]

Both are valid, dorsnt really matter if durango or twitch, i personally like twitch better for his graphics

[subtle stag]

Thanks, I can at least start saving for the right banner now

[red wave]

crit build is better, enlight. is only secondary stat for him

[red wave]

While both of them are good, i would recommend twitch if there is a choice because he is ranged

[static merlin]

S3 - fae meander 158 last enemy pack--- eternal struggle today this morning only 2 ppl on server pass thru - any idea how to setup this ? I can use multiple setups,gear etc trying control/burst/turtle nothing works cant even hold heal reduction all the time due to enemy Ripekas rng and double Frurbath/elec healing... thanks for any help 🙂

[red wave]

Soveliss was my salvation here, Soveliss, Journ and Zharloth - took abit of replaying but together with stun gear they lockdown enemy's and ulti down them till they couldnt use ultimates at all, i think my healing prohib unit was thia?
But just for perspective, multi hitting aoe for stun gear and aoe ultimate downs are the way to go if you cant nuke the stage with dmg

[wind iris]

Maybe you find an inspiration here:
https://discord.com/channels/928541801260908546/1218412791233515630

Edited, had the wrong link first 😆

[azure sluice]

In this back then, I used Journ to speed up the team, Horrus because his ulti is quick and apply control, Journ with hourglass and holy hunter. But basically control + manipulate Elecebre and Ripekas so they don't do the same to your team, then use strong DPS to kill Elecebre + Ripekas first. I used Felicity.

[jaunty wolf]

dont know my experience is if you have this you dont care too much about setup

[static merlin]

Yeah i try few runs again and its still the same 😦 i try the setup from video... but everlasting problem is : go nuke - 1st ripekas jump 2-3 dead - go def = not enought dmg - and they heal 😦 i will try it more today 🙂 thx for answers

[static merlin]

Any good idea with these got all epic/rare still trying to kill 158 mender S3 - trying all the possible teams/gear etc 😦

[azure sluice]

Ooh right S3 doesn't have holy hunter.
So you need melee tank to make them not move, maybe Theodemer. Then slow them down using recharging speed penalty from battle skill like Zhar'loth. Then multiple control effect like Thoedemer and Ripekas, also Feenja for heal. And Aspalta for quick damage.

[signal pivot]

Build theodemer with skill haste to gather the enemies. Then let your witch user do its job then your dps better need blast its ulti within the crowd range

Would be good if you have the Elites key and Lucky playing cards to serve high damage at fast

[static merlin]

I will try to farm Zharloth next day but i use Dalk ult for recharging speed penalty that dont helps a lot...

[static merlin]

I don have Elites key or lucky plaing cards 😦 only S3 myth i have Aspalta artifact 😦

[azure sluice]

You need to hit faster than them, that's why you'll want recharging speed penalty from battle skill or passive

[azure sluice]

Rift Hourglass? Witch remains? S3 city of trials is the hardest because there's no holy hunter set to stun

[burnt wraith]

Hey guys, anyone can give me best S4 vortex Team comb at start of Season 4 vortex (Level 1 vortex)? I have tried this comb, but perhaps you have better ideas? And pls with Timings 🥰

[azure sluice]

You already have 2 tank/healer, no need for Astaion no? Unless you specifically used i5 Ardreth as main tank and witch remains applier, Astaion with ancestral set as healer, and Synarell as 3rd dps with cyril set

[static merlin]

i have witch remains on Lossenia ... But today i try Oggok for survive and something wrong happens Ripekas kill me multiple times even Oggoks ult is up...something horribly wrong on this stage...

[azure sluice]

I told you, use energy manipulation, not Oggok. Not Lossenia. You have Ripekas, you have Feenja and Theodemer, maybe Huldork or Zhar'Loth to apply recharging speed penalty with Battle skill

[azure sluice]

You also have Garrika

[static merlin]

I try that with recharing speed penalty .. but now after 611 runs i finally kill it with Voresh/Theo/Bleddyn/Gerthin/Feenja - i switch to full crit dmg/ crit rate and attack gear burst 1 Ripe - then kill Parhu on low hp with Gerthin - Voresh die but i was able to kill rest in 5 minutes even with healing 😄 Finally XD

[jovial horizon]

Hey guys, please help. Fey meander 154, season 5 here is the lneup of the enemy

my chars:

[turbid flume]

You can try using stanguem, aladiah to give control imunity to all you heroes. You also can use tamar,fathomdown, ripekas,huldork,halramar to control charm them. You have many options

If you want to burst damage them, you can try 10 burn stack before using aschetius ultimate.

Try quesitia with high accuracy, aladiah with high enlightenment and accuracy, feenja. For 2 DPS you can use aschetius with Durem/karf

[jovial horizon]

ty bud ill try different options

There are the three crossbow damn things that kill me almost instantly. If you have recommendation for gear let me know!

[turbid flume]

Aladiah can give you shield with attack penalty if enemy hit the shield. Also can give you control imunity

[jovial horizon]

ok. Who I use as tank?

Ill try rpekas, tamar for general stun, maybe zar loth

ok. Nothing, they disintegrate me

[azure sluice]

Try not to use melee dps and hero whose ulti hit all, basically don't hit Grishnaar until everyone at the back is dead. Dispel the debuff immunity (maybe Huldork)? If possible use control effect with battle skill (Holy hunter set is great in fey)

[unique ravine]

suggestion for Vortex Synarell timing ?

[somber ivy]

classic Frur 21.5, Syn 29.5

[rose jetty]

Do we have Wild check increase hero aside Alfie

[somber ivy]

one of rares has it but only for her own checks, for others is only Alfie

[rose jetty]

They should make Legos Wild who can boost Wild check rate to make wild great again

Just like Orfenna for Thunderbolt

[solar valve]

in the cinese beta there were some changes, but we have to see, what they are and if they are impactful enough...

[acoustic fable]

Heyas!
I‘m looking for some inspirations concerning teams for dungeons (domains and graves) in week 1 of S4 and boss fights later on. 🙂
Looking forward to new ideas and strategies. Thanks in advance for sharing your thoughts!
Here‘s my roster:

[azure sluice]

Errich helping himself only but being free really makes it hard to remove him from the team

[azure sluice]

For general use I bring corossion team with Calavera and Synarell, and Karf for witch remains. I used that team until I get the legendary attack speed set (War Cry) for shadow.
Curse and all the boss with shield is annoying though, but you should have no problem with the fire gnome

[acoustic fable]

Thanks! For later Vortex corrosion is set. 🙂 With Dargo for witch‘s as I don‘t have Karf. 🙂

[wanton crag]

hayyy

[jaunty wolf]

Looking at options you have i would probably try poison fire mix. Ergander and and oggok. And well for more expreiment what you can pull off burn of wild. What can i say i am big fan of aoe taunt 🤷‍♂️ Tenk need to have high defense and resistence so he dont get push back.
Shadow are usually amazing on mender but you dont have much options and well you didnt lvl them

Or tamar, ardeth, gilian/pheasa and some relly setup... but all that need testing. Also depends on your affinity and your gear also how good your artifacts and stats are

Hard to say like this just some of suggestions i would try

Those 2 option kind of look like highest chance from here.

Asphalta made it look like nothing 🤷‍♂️

[uncut juniper]

any of these two useful to get by early game?

how is garett?

[somber ivy]

Huldork very useful at S1 end boss. Garett - you mean the poison epic tank? He's ok if you don't have Furbath, otherwise he's on the bench.

[subtle stag]

Garett is the dauntless melee lego that looks like a gladiator, he is ok but you need the right team combo because he uses his own HP to cast his ultimate

[azure sluice]

Huldork dispel 2 buff, important against tempest domain, grave of curse, and Ancient battlefield

[clever moth]

any tips?

[jaunty wolf]

You did lvl up some of ok options already. Can make few other things like dauntless and frost but non of options are that crazy. Also some of things you lvl up half of team like rally you lvl up support that is legendary but no actual rally dps lvl up and yes you have limited options. Usha is rare but if she have frost setup (can be dorkuraz) she can do good. Also wellby is not bad if you build radiance team from what you have. Some Rare are pretty good. Poison need setup you have legendary poison but you dont have setup other than Horace. Not bad character but not good setup. For some things to work you need setup 2 or 3 characters. Some can still do ok solo but not full power

Summon you build will probably do ok but necro tends to have problems in some fights cos summon die easy. In others they do good

Shargoll can be pretty good from dantles so can numbus not op but well can do their job

kind of team ups you could try for dps but you will get more options.

Aside from summon you basically lvl up only tank and supports. Yes some of supports can do high dmg if used or build good

Holdork for example could do nice dmg if positioned closer to enemy

[uncut juniper]

can anyone tell me about best s1 epic healers for each faction and how they compare

[subtle stag]

Has anyone here tried using Ghul'ende in a tanking capacity for a necrotic team? I have made a team so far with Torrin for heals, Gaiolere, Scharlach and Joyce for damage and at the moment Elvis as a tank but thinking of subbing Elvis for Ghul'ende as when I have played him, he tends to outlast majority of the team anyway.

[small sleet]

Badly need help from lvl 7 curses dungeon

[solar valve]

check recommended teams/heroes ingame or post what you have here to see what could work...

[azure sluice]

You should always specify for what content, dungeon? PvP? Because you are supposed to tailor them to the specific mechanics. If it's story, it's better to use as many control effect, so put attack and accuracy on him to make him 3rd dps and 2nd healer and exploit his control effect replacing Joyce

[uncut juniper]

vinyara worth full scroll?

[jaunty wolf]

dont have 2 legendaries you have so cant be fully sure how it would go with them but dont think will be that good

you could probably make almost anything in game to work with enough effort but some things perform really bad

think corrosion without rook is weak

with him well you know broken XD

[azure sluice]

I used 3 corossion + 2 support, but I don't remember the support. That is the hardest continental boss

[azure sluice]

Yeah

[uncut juniper]

How's that heal revive lady for s1 use any specific modes she is good at

[wind iris]

Which one?

Sifris the epic poison hero or mithrasea rhe legendary radiant one?

[uncut juniper]

Epic poison@wind iris

I started new account got her I also got Alfie there and vinyara

Vinyara solid full scroll for s1?

[wind iris]

Sifris is usable, she helped me in s1 with vortex team as i was lacking viable solutions

Vinyara is great

[uncut juniper]

Managed to get into vortex within 25h so was 5th there with traveler vinyara heksandra isitarian sigrid

The codes seem to have expired so I can't have more pulls until later

[uncut juniper]

What kind of gear considering she consumes HP for her skills

[wind iris]

She needs someone like frurbath to heal back up, and make her tanky

[uncut juniper]

Will see if I pull that then or garius

I could raise Horus but I need healing

[astral heath]

What do?

What's the strat? I die before anyone can use any ults

[balmy compass]

If you can't busrt them quickly, so you need to control them

Use a build that has a lot of control and use also control gear set

You should down first the Sagomir team

[turbid flume]

Try to debuff them with attack penalty

[astral heath]

thats agood idea too. i switched to my ardreth rose garius team and healed the frick out of everyone. to make sure i can ult. and that worked

[flat prairie]

Help

Why is the damage so low?

[somber ivy]

No Shinnah - no Nadja

[flat prairie]

I'll try Gerthin, leveling him up now

[wind iris]

Withou Icecrystal deployer, gerthin will not make a big difference

[flat prairie]

Wouldn't adding Nord help Nadja?

Bleddyn+Nord?

[flat prairie]

Just wasted all my potions on her

[somber ivy]

Bled plus Nord might be enough, make sure though Nadja has highest attack of all team

[flat prairie]

I'll farm some goblin and try

[flat prairie]

It worked

From 43 to 58 mil is a nice increase

If I'd have Shinah, I would probably do 70-80 mil

[flat prairie]

80 mil 😂

[dull crater]

Astaion makes everyone better

[dull crater]

My iceblast team is Gerthin Shinnah Aladiah nadja feenja

[flat prairie]

Yes, she's a monster

How much damage do you do with that setup?

[red wave]

Is Astaion in s2?

[subtle stag]

I have a line up question about S3. I got lucky and pulled Rook and Sacredeia (just single pulls so no exclusive artifact) and initially I am looking to use Frubath to tank/heal and add Mithrasea for the res later in the fight. My question is, should I fill out the last spot with Gengu or should I use Dargo to generate corrosion?

[dull crater]

Nooo she’s s4 pretty sure

[dull crater]

93M … probably could have pushed further with little tweaks to gear here and there but it gets tedious

[turbid flume]

Use Dargo with witch remain.

[subtle stag]

Cool thanks

[flat prairie]

It's good for a team with no astaion.

[crisp garden]

Hi any advice for fire team?

for chief challenge Shinnah

[wind iris]

Well, felicity, caspar, errich, tona, syn ahould do it 😉

[crisp garden]

i do not have flore, i have felicity

who will tank?

[jaunty wolf]

Isolde and adolphus tend to synergize good but try to make isolde use shield first so adolphus can heal not just shield. Horus is better option for tank if you need taunt and more survivability. Isolde tend to work good if you position team close to her so she apply shields Horus is better if you position team spread around

Both are solid tanks just depends what your play is

Bot can put attack penalty. Isolde attack penalty can be timed. Horus use it at higher frequency. Isolde passive give 15% dmg reduction to ppl she shielded.

[rose jetty]

This is my Shinnah chiefs team

Alfie ( the epic wild) is a must if you use Caspar

[wind iris]

Sont really need a real tank, but tonalnan can wear tank gear

[red wave]

Hmm is tonalnan good enough thou? wouldnt Rephe be better with caspar?

[azure sluice]

Tonalnan is the best payoff for wild team, 2nd after Flora with her artifact. 35% base crit rate and 300%+ crit damage is huge

[red wave]

Yes tonalnan is great, but if you have unit like flora or CASPAR like here, who works of off the number of wild checks and tonalnan has the minimum wild checks a wild unit has, wouldnt the WHOLE TEAM deal more dmg if instead of tonalnan who contributes very little would be replaced by rephe who contributes a whole lot?

even if individual dmg might be less, overall dmg would increase, or not, but thats how that works

[crisp garden]

and who you use as tank?

[nocturne harbor]

no one, Synarell heal+shield is enough
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=79MiCtezb7I

[red wave]

And again i dont know which one would be better cause i dont have caspar or flora, thats why im asking if rephe might be better with those units.

[azure sluice]

Hm, the one that asked don't have Flora tbh, so I'd put Tonalnan and Caspar as payoff, Alfie, and then the 4th to build up the 2 payoff heroes. But I'd put Felicity with witch remains for the 4th slot because of constant defense down. For final boss S3, many recommended 2 out of 3 of : Flora, Tonalnan, and Caspar
Maybe optimally built Caspar would increase the total damage, it's just easier to optimally build build Tonalnan, the gear can then be worn by other standard dps in other team. And well, for OE time we'll target full 15 team with 22M damage anyway, so Rephe will still see play

[uncut juniper]

which 5 would do the most work for vortex

[dull crater]

I’d love to know more about your wild team! I do have Flora and I was only just passing 100M. I was using Tonalnon but I dropped her for Alfie. Perhaps I should have dropped Errich instead 🤔

[wind iris]

Syn, flora, errich, tona alfie/felicity should do good

[flat prairie]

Rephe would proc more wild but I don't think overall damage improves more than what tolnanan brings.

[rose jetty]

Drop errich, build Felicity with ACC and CR so she can wear WR . Alfie can use Healing set for haste to cast his ultimate frequently and booster team wild check rate 100% time.

[dull crater]

Yes I’ve got felicity in WR. I’ll try some point this week. I’m in otherworld so my results will be buffed but it will give a better sense of what they can do. Also it will probably help my end boss team as well.

[flat prairie]

How I wish I had Felicity, everytime I try the horn on wild option it messes with me, rolls 2-3 times on 20 just to end with another number

[solar valve]

it doesn´t matter what you select. simply select one option to be faster. Result is RNG either way...

[bitter reef]

Does anyone know of any decent S1 poison teams for PvP and PvE?

And are there any ones with Jathalea in them? I'm not even sure if she's that good tbh as Sigrid seems to be the way better dd than her. And Sigrid and Jathalea don't synergise with each other I suppose.

[turbid flume]

Try Durango lothair sigrid

[bitter reef]

And the other 2 heroes?

[bitter reef]

Gonna roll for lothair then from the special summon thingy then.

[turbid flume]

Tank and healer. Just use the best that you have. Frurbath for tank or garius. Depend on the element affinity.

[bitter reef]

Alright, thank you ^^

[subtle stag]

I am currently running a poison team in S1 and topping vortex. Still waiting to get the right tank and support too. My team is Horrus at tank (waiting to summon Frurbath), Heksandra as heals (want to summon Adolphus to pair with Frurbath) and then have Corrin applying poison (was lucky with dupe pulls so he has Hourglass artifact and stacking 40 constantly), Durango as 2nd DPS and assist with stacks and then Lothair as main DPS. I must admit, it is a pretty fun team to run. Struggles on Fey at the moment but I am ok with that

[bitter reef]

Alright, I hope I'll get lucky with Lothair.

But yeah, he seems like a nice damage dealer.

[subtle stag]

Do you gave Vicana?

[bitter reef]

I don't. I have a Twitch though at level 1.

[subtle stag]

What poison heroes do you have?

[bitter reef]

As in the element or the debuff?

[subtle stag]

Element

[bitter reef]

Don't have too much poison stacking right now.

Also using Ghul as my support right now

[subtle stag]

For these heroes for now, you could run Frurbath, Heksandra (cheap to build and strong heals, Vivuc if you need cleanse), Corrin for poison stacks, then either Durango or Twitch to assist with stacks (melee or ranged depending on your pref) and Jathalea as main DPS.

If you have Adolphus from fire he can provide great support shield paired with Frurbaths heals

[bitter reef]

Oh yeah, I have an untouched one

[bitter reef]

Gonna work on this then for now. Thank you very much 🙂

[rose jetty]

Yes, Sigrid is not Poison damage type hero, just Poison Category.

[rose jetty]

Lothair + Durango + Corrin with hourglass artifact+ 75 haste is the standard poison team for boss, vortex, end game boss ( Corrin helps keep the 40 stacks last forever so Lothair can deal huge damage)

[bitter cave]

Above is 171 fey. Been here for a few days now. I’m staying alive but immune on their side is not allowing any damage or they just regenerate it back. Suggestions 😵‍💫

[turbid flume]

Truuth, I think it would be better to show your lothair build and the other heroes that enable it. Would be a good reference 👍 your lothair team insane this season

[turbid flume]

What others hero from ice and necrosis that you have? I suggest Feenja, aladiah (enlightenment and accuracy build) ,felosia, Perseus, 1 more DPS. Easier if you have shadow hero

[bitter cave]

Shadow hasn’t been good to me

[turbid flume]

Try Feenja, aladiah, Perseus. If you can hold their damage, you can swap felosia with other DPS. Trolgar is good choice. He can jump to backline. Or using ice blast hero but manually target enemy Thia first

Aladiah ultimate give control imunity

[bitter cave]

Have feenja/aladiah/perseus so that’s a start

Have trolgar but he was going down like no tomorrow

[turbid flume]

Aladiah ultimate have control imunity. Make sure to use it before gardrus ulti. Give enough accuracy on aladiah, so enemy get attack penalty when attacking you

[bitter cave]

Cheers will load it back up tonight and fire away

[turbid flume]

Combine with Perseus, he can give permanent attack penalty. If Perseus can't hold as tank. Then try another tank hero, and use Perseus as secondary dps

Good luck bro.

[bitter cave]

Thanks heaps

[bitter cave]

Sadly that made it worse 😔

[solar valve]

@indigo sleet

do you have her?

in every team you want to have at least 3 of the element pairings.
Vinyara in every team+ 3 poison/fire heroes or 2 ice/necro or 3 lightning radiance,
but from what i saw you can probably leave lightning radiance for much later...

[indigo sleet]

Wait lemme check

Sadly i don't have her

Wat abt the main char should i put her away on my team?

[solar valve]

she is nice cause you can switch her elements, but that´s about it.
what you need is a real DPS. Personally for now i would use Ishitarian instead of the main character, so you have the 3 ice/necro plus furbarth as tank and Iola as control damage...
but summon are not great DPS!

[indigo sleet]

But lola is thunder

[solar valve]

yeah, but you have nothing else to use.
the important thing is the 3 characters and the other 2 can be whatever element until later when you try to have teams with 5 characters of the element pairings.

[indigo sleet]

But i will not meet the criteria of 3 elements?

[solar valve]

but it seems you are already doing good.
it´s not 3 elements. you don´t want 3 elements

[solar valve]

you want this

cause of the stats bonuses

[indigo sleet]

So my main team will be

Can u tell me the names of my 3 same elements?

3 ice?

[indigo sleet]

I seeeeee

Thank u somuch

[solar valve]

3 ice necro: Vinyara, Ishitarian and Scharlach +2

3 poison fire: furbarth, fire main character, ________ +2

did you already get a blue chest where you can choose 1 rare character?

[indigo sleet]

Yes i have that chect almost forgot abt it lol

Chest*

I thought it should be the same 3 elements. my bad. 😅🤣

[solar valve]

for now i think ice / necro is your best team
and in case you need more protection with this team you can change the main character to ice and put him in instead of Iola or furbarth

then with the chest you can choose Sigrid, if you don´t want to wait. she is one of the best rares and a good DPS

[solar valve]

this game is about element pairings. every 3 months when the new season starts the pairings change.

[indigo sleet]

I see thank you for telling me

[solar valve]

read her skills, skill her up and try her out

[indigo sleet]

Is this correct ?

[solar valve]

but Iola is also good, cause she has crowd control and you don´t have/want to use all characters everywhere.

also pay much attention how many days you have left to reset characters!!

[indigo sleet]

Hw abt this

But I don't have a tank is that ok?

[solar valve]

also Iolas ultimate hits 3 times; i don´t if you have seen the 2 artifacts with defense down. one is crown and one is a myth artifact you probably don´t have yet, which is witches remain. for those you want someone like Iola to land the defense down effect

[solar valve]

you can try. depends on the content. with this team you have shields but no heal i think

also furbarth gives this aura, which is one of the best for most content

[indigo sleet]

Bro thank u for helping me

[bitter reef]

Alright, thank you ^^

[coral gazelle]

Is there a good team suggestion for fire domain that is compose of rares? Having a hard time since i need some augites. Thanks

Sorta new so i dont have some of the epic and legendary on the recommended.

[solar valve]

irina lightning is one of the best rares with Sigrid, but early on you can use poison/fire comp for fire domain also

[coral gazelle]

Sorta stuck at flame 7. Cant break through 8

[turbid flume]

Try to bring hero that can remove burn stack like vicuc, enna or other. Also use attack penalty before boss use her ulti. You also can use debuff imunity if you have hero like Catherine,thia

[coral gazelle]

Ok. Ill try to level up those chars

Thanks

[azure sluice]

Not much, Akara is the hardest because there's not many cleanser there. Olaf are one, but you need the 2nd cleanser/buff immunity like Thia

[red wave]

idk if you can manage high dmg then a shielder can withstand the stacks blowing up if u space ur units

[uncut juniper]

Is there any cheap rares that break shields

I tried Brody epic but idk how he works as he never really broke the shield

[old veldt]

i think not, but you can use the filter to see who does this

[old veldt]

did you have enough accuracy?

[uncut juniper]

Does it not work without that?

It was for grave of curse or whatever it is

[old veldt]

if you have no accuracy you land less debuff or strip (like strip shield)

% drops a lot if you are under the recommended one

[uncut juniper]

Very well I'll put some accuracy in him and try

I just never saw the shield break figure something is broken

[old veldt]

some guildmates used him so i guess he does 😄

[uncut juniper]

How much accuracy do I need to have reliable debuff etc

[old veldt]

every stage level you are at you can check recommend number top right of your boss' infos

[uncut juniper]

I'm also curious about gear
Attack% crit% crit dmg% main stats
Which one is arguably better

[old veldt]

it oftens depends on your servant
some do not need crit so it will be atk or atk and enlightenment
some will value more CD so less must for atk
most will have value if you have cr and atk + CD

[uncut juniper]

Isitarian berengar garius Felicity and the free summon guy is what I run for vortex and some diff combinations for other modes
But really lacking good stuff for vortex maybe until I can get the wild team going

[old veldt]

aren't those 3 tanks with 1 dps? (i do not know them beside garius), it feels like a lot of tanks ^^

it depends on who you have as option

[uncut juniper]

I mean their summons are tanky but they're my biggest dmg dealers

[zinc nest]

Twitch break shields and he Gucci af.

Also the Necro lizard

[subtle stag]

Any idea how to beat this level

[jaunty wolf]

Good shadow or good radiance i guess 😅

[indigo sleet]

Can someone help me build a team

[azure sluice]

Ihuicatl is lightning

[azure sluice]

For what content? Different dungeon need different team

[astral heath]

Does orfenna work without perkunte?

[thick granite]

Yes, she can work solo pretty well

[azure sluice]

Yeah with dauntless

[narrow furnace]

any good team with these legendary heroes to be my main lineup after 1 week (got all the epics)

[astral heath]

Isn't she thunderbolt tho?

Lightning blast

[azure sluice]

Yeah but there's so few ranged dauntless she is used in chief challenge against Aschetius.

[uncut juniper]

Tried Brody again with like more than 100+ gear accuracy vs grave of curse but still never breaks a shield

What seems to be wrong with it

[old veldt]

are the requirments around 100 acc or higher?

[red wave]

Check there

[uncut juniper]

Good question I don't think I can get any more
Eurion seems to break every shield with same gear

No way I can reach 220 accuracy

Even eurion is like 70 short but will break every shield

So what is the difference

[old veldt]

is one skilled up but the other one isn't? it might increase the chances to apply

[red wave]

You also have accuracy bonus from affinity, if you unlocked it

[uncut juniper]

Pretty much same accuracy neither is scrolled or anything

[uncut juniper]

That's actually good point

But those are maxed out for all except 5affinity

But I suppose Brody might break shield if I use 3 fire poison

[red wave]

thats extra 50 accuracy

[craggy topaz]

I use Brody for Curse and Frost domain and works great. It must be the affinity bonus as MMafia said

[somber ivy]

You are approaching Curse from bad angle. The trick is not in dispelling shield, it is in not allowing it to happen. If you make a big enough shield of your own before his ult he gets no shield.

[craggy topaz]

I know. Maybe I can do it now with Adolphus, Garrika and Garius.

[azure sluice]

Yeah but at lower level, punching up against Curse to get better gear to grind level is pretty common, especially since around then the stats are not optimal enough to tank the hit, so the shield breaker would be necessary.

[west void]

I still have the epic chest, is worth getting tonalnan and drop needa?

I still don't have other good epics such as voresh questa zar'loth

[wind iris]

Yes

[west void]

Thanks

[velvet epoch]

Good day everyone!

i have a weird question. Got a lot of curency from the intermediate season, upped my Ardreth to lvl 5

now i still have 1600 to get 2 inspirations for either Calavera or Adialh

none are my top picks

so my main questions are:

1. which hero did YOU try for good results?
2. what is YOUR opinion - will they allow to buy extra inspiration items when the next season hits?

to be honest i do not think any of them will repalce guys like Auster for my main teams

[old veldt]

do you have leg or even exclusive in one of the two elements / the paired one that could help you choose?
Both are very good picks, but it also depends on your goals. Calavera i5 carried my last season as i got some new poisons leg and lacked a heal there, but i am discovering aladiah's value rn when it helps me clear so much dungeons with her shield / break atk / break shield kit

[velvet epoch]

but they can be an asset for a good secondary (it seems inspiration does tre,endous work)

i have alot of leggeos. For ice i usually use auster (the ice archer) + the duo lover leggoes

and auster is the main DD with frost from Rava

for poison its a better replacement (calavera) since my main poison/fire DDs are karf + the new fire elf legendary who hits like a train + heals + gives immortality

the main thing tahty stops me is the lack of understanding if they allow me to buy more inspirations next season

otherwise id totally go all in on inspiratinos, get one of these ladies to lvl 3 and then up to 5 next seasomn

[old veldt]

what season are you in right now ? (is it first intermediate?, did you just start?)

your role says season 1 so no infos at all :p

[velvet epoch]

is intermediate 2 i guess

i went through all iof them 🙂 even the transition phase

so for me its the first repeat of the San Ramalan

so i guess intermediate II?

also no idea if they will do intermediate III...

or go to season V

[old veldt]

we cannot know what is going to happen in 3 months as they announced major global updates but we don't know yet
Some CCs said we will get few infos in following days, maybe waiting a week before picking (if it does not hinder you) could be good for you to see more long term

if you get other intermediate, you will get exact same shop available for next seasons

[velvet epoch]

sure im in no rus

i heard that many people got intermediate III

so i GUESS they can cycle all of us through at least 3 intermediate seasons

[old veldt]

currently starting the 3rerun here, only 2 inspirations level missing for aladiah to get all of them to i5 😄

[velvet epoch]

wow

[old veldt]

we all wait to know if our guesses are right or wrong, some are saying exact opposite so hard to tell ^^

[velvet epoch]

to be honest i really wish them to keep us able to bumb these exclusive heroes

and an opportunity to get DND ones

missed drizzt AND alminster

[old veldt]

D&D are under contract so not sure we will ever get that option

[velvet epoch]

and bigby is so meh

[old veldt]

bigby carry first few days of vortex for me 😄

[velvet epoch]

adrreth at inspiratino 5 is a beast

on a dauntless team with Garuis (w/staff) and 2 leggo archers

for a f2p player its a lot of luck

[old veldt]

i just got one of the archer, before that i only had one element (frost) where i had paired leg on a type of dps ^^

you also got both lovers and syn, that is like top stuff for any start of season

[velvet epoch]

the archet that procs a passive on crit hit is very good when paired with Sutha

[old veldt]

i would say aladiah is amazing for you because of that if you get another season

[velvet epoch]

yes but i have no true frost damage dealers

lovers + aladia leave space for 2

[old veldt]

isn't auster a good one?

[velvet epoch]

1 is usually voresh

auster needs a frost enabler, and ist rava who does it

[old veldt]

lovers + aladiah + syn + anyone is already a comp able to clear venom 7 or 8 day 3 of the season 😄

[velvet epoch]

voresh is just voresh you cant go wrong with voresh 😛

syn is fire

no elemental bonus

[old veldt]

early in the season you only have 3 anyway

[velvet epoch]

im just too much OCD for the team comps))

but if i take aladia i WILL need a ice DD

oooor... maybe pick a necro one

so aladiah + lovers + voresh +.... some beefy necro

[old veldt]

tbh, i think lovers + aladiah are already enough to clear venom dungeon with only those 3 lol

especially if you are over lvl 70 ^^

[velvet epoch]

too low damage IMO

• who will have remains? aladia wil; have the shield crown, lover healer rthe staff and the tank the def% art

[old veldt]

the tank lover isn't that low on damage
but for stage 9 indeed you will want some dps added

i wish you manage to get lossenia, it helps a lot

[velvet epoch]

hmm amybe the new "resident evil tentacle" dude

nope no lossenia

[old veldt]

ardreth i5 soloed so many boss for me with that witch remain 😄

[velvet epoch]

i got the awesome necro clyric lizard thinhy, will use it with the necro squad

you gave her WR?

does she trigger with each ult hit after she enables it?

for me ardreth is all about boosting the hell out of everyone with top defence and getting Garius to do 50 k shields 😛

[old veldt]

she have damage on each auto after she ults, so all autos are able to apply wr ^^

in my ardreth + garius + dauntless, she is the wr wearer

[velvet epoch]

ouch... this is a very good point. Thank you.
for me the +60% def item was the standard
her accuracy is too low

and she heals AND damages off def

i actually use WR on the archer leggo whos ultimate is switching shootuing stance

so sutha for the Crits, archer who procs on dantless crits + archer who does crap ton of shooting with WR

[old veldt]

up to your liking in that case 😉

[velvet epoch]

yep

thanks for the chat 🙂

[old veldt]

a pleasure 😉

[polar ice]

I have several heroes that I m not use it. I wonder what is your opinion on this gropu as a PVE group

I got this also

and other epics

[velvet epoch]

Ardreth is one of the best heroes in the game

you also have 3 awesome dauntless

if you take Sutha, Ardreth, and other 2 legendary Dauntless AND add Garius with the staff that allows him to shield your team

you will have a very solid Vortex/boss build

[polar ice]

I use this like vortex team

But many thx I will try the ones that you sugested for sure

[scarlet arch]

Just curious but what unit is this lovers?

[old veldt]

feenja and theodomere was my understanding

[scarlet arch]

ah ok

[velvet epoch]

Yes!

[polar ice]

So your sugestion is to make Dauntless team?

• Garius

[velvet epoch]

you have all that it takes IF you have Garius who WILL need a staff for an optimal team

also these should all be scrolled up... otherwise - a big drop in quality

[polar ice]

What staff you have in mind?

[velvet epoch]

gatekeeper staff? the one that allows the user to turn all overheal into shield

the combo works like this - ardreth passes on her DEF bonus

and gives boosts to healing

garius does CRAZY 30+k shields

[velvet epoch]

these two are IMO so flavorfull...

[old veldt]

yeah that has blown my mind once i tried it and my vortex comp really skyrocketed (until i discovered rook)
but i went from a trouble to reach 20m in vortex IV to a 40m+

[polar ice]

WOW .. I have first to somehow get this stuff ..

The heroes will be leveled till then .. I m quite entusastic now 🙂

Do you have some good advice how to get more Crystal and .. which buy is a good one. I mean in a shop

[velvet epoch]

staff is a legendary artifact it will need a soul imprint

so you need a duplicate soul of a legendary hero

no other resourses needed to get it

[polar ice]

Yes I dont have at the moment so I guess i have to buy some stuff to get a duplicate legi

[velvet epoch]

you need to roll heliolite dice

or purple dice

until you get a dublicate legendary

[polar ice]

I have first have to buy them ATM i m at zero

And I dont know the way to get them in game in abundancy

Any help or advice for me is more then welcome Alch

On the other side the purple dice or from them maybe I received like one or maybe 2 legendary .. maybe. I m pretty sure about one

[velvet epoch]

i am a F2P player

so i only roll as follows:

1. when a new season starts i roll about 1 K purple dice that I saved aacross the previosu season. This usually gives at least 1, sometimes more legendaries.
2. i roll heliolites (golden) dice at the start of the season for the special banner that guarantees a leggo at 10 rolls
3. i roll 80 heliolites on the starting banner that guarantees a leggo at 80

apart from that i do not roll at all, maybe at the seasonal event

and thats it

also of course the horn each time it allows yuo have a chance to have a leggo

[polar ice]

Wow .. I m not a big spender too, to be honest.

[velvet epoch]

the game does NOT give abundant orange dice

i havent spend anything)

and tend to keep between 45 and 75 place each season

[polar ice]

Well congratulations. I m way too much lazy to understand this game so well. I still enyoy playing it and that s the final target I guess. I ussually spend when I start to play the game since I m willing to pay if the game is good and I find it interesting and to give at least something to the game creators.

For example if I pay for some game on steam like 80 or 100 eur I dont see why I m not good to pay for this game that I play ever day for maybe a year

SO honestly I have spend more time on this game that on every other game this year if I m not counting WOR

[polar ice]

I have creat the team based on your sugestion .. is this the ones you sugested?

[old veldt]

tbh orfenna might as well be able to fit in as if i remember correctly she does well with auto attack based allies

[polar ice]

Which one you would discard then?

[velvet epoch]

orfenna is Thunderbolt, no?

that is a different style

dauntless wotk best with dauntless

and thunderbolts go best together IMO

she does not give any specific boosts related to allies

[wind iris]

She is still better than garret in that lineup, because she is just awesome

[velvet epoch]

is she THAT good?

garett did wonderful numbers for me in my experience in vortex

sometimes more than Sutha

what do you think about Orfenna + Ardreth + Garius + Perkunte + Shai’nachtan?

[wind iris]

Perkunte + orfenna is strong

[velvet epoch]

i have all these 3 thunderbolts but to scroll them all up will take me my entire collection of golden scrolls

Shai’nachtan also gives a solid atk boost to all thunderbolts

[polar ice]

So insteed Garett the sugestion is orfenna?

which is fine by me since I m almast at lvl 100 with her 🙂

[velvet epoch]

are they both scrolled up?

since if only one is that hero may be better

[old veldt]

indeed, she simply does fit very well with ivelios instead of tharivol tho (as she shot x3) i would guess
but yeah perkunte and orfenna are enough as two to destroy tons of areas

[velvet epoch]

so Shai’nachtan is not worth it?

his toolbox looks pretty neat

[old veldt]

i heard he is nice with both others but i never saw him nor own him so i cannot say a lot
what i heard is to avoid at all cost if you don't have perkunte or orfenna, idk how much worth he holds with them

he remember me a bit like zhorark in IB who gives 40% damage increase but is almost never used except if you have 4 dps slots ^^

[velvet epoch]

i could use the lady who stuns everyone with lightning 😛

the leggo granny, have her scrolled up

Tamar! Thats the name

[jaunty wolf]

Aura can benefit some dauntless for starters. Dauntless are all about combo machine how game call it. So high frequency attacks and some of them can join in on other dauntless attacks. And those join attacks tend to be derivative dmg. Having more enlightment means they do more dmg. So yes you can build weird teams. Dauntless combo engine can work with non dauntless but trigger rate is lower. So you can have weird setups question is if they will work good or not. Some can work good. I had weird setups where i used Sha as tank that give enlightment aura for dauntless so more derivative dmg, more shield and heal... Problem is i have limited options for dauntless so i had to do it like that. If i had better options i would use better options

Ivellios, Nastjenka, Schalter, Thurmus. Are combo engines. Thurmus being horrible... But other daunltess do lots of attacks triggering follow up attacks form combo engine... Aside for this join in attack you dont get actual bonus from team up dauntless aside from maybe Vani and Thalorian that can buff for dauntless like i think Vani and Thurnus having speed up based on number of dauntless... So what does this even mean dauntles work best with dauntless...

Sutha , Tharivol and Nimbus? do they benefit in any way from each other?

[velvet epoch]

tharivol gives tons of attacks that generate extra procs fromivellios

[jaunty wolf]

and what did i say about combo engine ?

[velvet epoch]

at least thats my strategy

[jaunty wolf]

Ivelios is combo engine

[velvet epoch]

unfortuantely i dont hane Nastjenka

[jaunty wolf]

Orfenna can trigger ivelios join in attack... But chance for that to happen is 10%, If dauntless attack chance is 20%

so he does work better with dauntless

but Sutha and Tharivol and Garett dont benefit from each other at all and they are all 3 dauntless

[velvet epoch]

this is why i dont take them without ivelios 😛

[jaunty wolf]

O they can do some nice dmg alone but dmg will not be high enough for some things

I dont have ivellios only combo engine i have is Shcalter and Turnus. Thurnus is joke. Shalter can actually do pretty good. Can almost make dauntless work on things that are about pushing dmg higher

If you dont have optimal setup you need to get creative and experiment find what will work

and ofc this joke of hero

[red wave]

If the extra dmg in the 10 sec time was a basic atk he would be pretty good

[jaunty wolf]

not sure of that kind of doubt it but who knows you could be right would need to test it if it worked like that but am sceptic XD

but he can have crazy attack speed do to pasive

[red wave]

Because 50% is pretty good and it would also activate dauntless effects like schaltar's or nastjenkas ultimate's. but its not so....

[jaunty wolf]

yeah i know it would activate but still sceptic that it could end up enough... Maybe it would his high attack speed and this maybe would actually work