📊┆dragon-lineup-help

[azure sluice]

Shinnah with Witch remains, Gerthin, Bleddyn, Frurbath, Oggok

[ocean schooner]

What armour set do I use on them ?
The recommendation ones?

[snow ingot]

For timings i would always use frurbath (230acc) 21.5/20 or 26.5/20
Oggok (full atk + gatekeeper) 16.5/20
Sets i think s3 was the season with the "def share set" iirc? Then this on frur and oggok. Dps Sets dont remember xD

[ocean schooner]

Unfortunately I don't have the staf I have the other one that gives atac

When healing

[snow ingot]

Horn?

[ocean schooner]

But oggok doesn't need enlighten? To work

[ocean schooner]

Yes

[snow ingot]

His ult scales with 400%atk and 3000%enl. So atk should be the better multiplyer

[ocean schooner]

Ah ok

[snow ingot]

What i found out is that atk/enl multiplier are around 1:10.

So 100% atk equals around 1000% enl

[ocean schooner]

Im going to change them
Thx mate

[quiet oracle]

Thanks both. 🙂

[exotic nexus]

This team did few days ago, I managed to work upon less succesfull ones on other bosses and they did over 22m .....

and now with new better gear colection, more experience and new information ... I do now around 15-17m .... Its good to copy old setup an dnot to change it, and save it. I hope my head will work tomorow better to use right gear.

[red wave]

is acilia really better then garius?

[exotic nexus]

no, but gariues I used in Alton boss ...

[red wave]

oh

[exotic nexus]

I treid them and they did it .. so I wallked on other bosses

[red wave]

you cant use same heroes but you can use the same gear thou right?

[exotic nexus]

yes

[red wave]

phew thats a load of my mind

[exotic nexus]

me too I just hit it to save it and ohh it stopped working ... so I hope sleep will help to think better

I just wonder thats is no even close to 22m ... the wall now is 15m

[snow ingot]

S2 chief? Who was the Boss?

[sharp pilot]

Hi all, I need a littel help with my team build. I'm not that lucky with draws so I'm lack of Leggys....wich team combo should I run. I'm in Season 3, I think about a poison/frost or corrosion/ Frost Team. Wich character are a good synergy? Thanks for help 🙂

[exotic nexus]

Journ

[exotic nexus]

the gear strategy messed it up ... Alton is worst on s2 gear, better in gambit ... at least on those stats I can put it. I tried to put into game the heal set and the 15% dmg resist set ... and it stopped working, ... Now I can do 22m ... so Im still going over .. to put aside the complication

[snow ingot]

Think this was my team back then

Dont know what Sets they were wearing 🙈

But only tank got hit by journ. Was hegio jump strategy

[exotic nexus]

thats my problem dont knwo what sets I put on them, but I slowly reconstruct it 🙂 Heggion is lvl 1, and Garius I used on Alton boss.

Now it is just to put right artefact and gear on alton probably

New strategy .... now raise the attack ... and hopefully Sunday will be free of chalenge thinking

[snow ingot]

Maybe your positioning/timings are off

Would recomment you to use hegio instead of eurion too

[exotic nexus]

may next week I do some changes as I will need to do just one new team .. this is just a backup plan ...

Its that rose is going down on 6th stack .... she susitaned it to 8th in last time .... I try to reconstruct old team as I have new one that can do it also ...

[exotic nexus]

I saved this, Im glad that I did all 3th over 22m and understand it litle bit better

[snow ingot]

Like i said, with hegio and correct positioning, the tank is the only one getting hit bei battle skill and ult 😉

[exotic nexus]

yeah, I saw the strategy ... I dotn have poson and necro team at all .. so lvl up heggio now would be just waste my resoursex ... Eurion was almost ready

Im a lo wpopolated server so not much diference to do 24m or 35m

[sand spruce]

Hola. I do not talk english. I need help from admin of play for a problema of actualization. ¿Any one? Thks.

[exotic nexus]

Hola, creo que solo tienes que comunicarte con el servicio de atención al cliente, es posible que también tengan un formulario en español para ti.

O puedes intentar desinstalar el juego, borrar el dinero y volver a instalarlo... Supongo que es para el teléfono, no para la versión de Steam... Si es Steam, solo tienes que comprobar la integridad de los archivos.

Translation over google translator, I just can hope its right.

[azure sluice]

Journ

[azure sluice]

For what content? As of now the most coherent team you have is Frost with Lossenia, Auster, Frurbath, Heksandra, and probably Vinyara

[sharp pilot]

For end content and vortex. Ok I try too build them, but I guess frost is not that good or ? Thanks for the answer

[solar valve]

frost is not good for vortex

[azure sluice]

Not great for vortex. Good for venom, and otherworld exploration boss

[sharp pilot]

So, i hop I got som good poison or corrosion heroes

[ocean schooner]

Is not working the ib
Can't get past 15m

I have no shield in ice/poison

[azure sluice]

Well, what's work for you then. At least the IB team can still be used in OE

Hourglass Corrin + Lothair is the optimal poison team while your IB, great that SHinnah and Gerthin is, is not optimal.

[ocean schooner]

Corrin unfortunately doesn't got 170 sh for now I've been unlucky with the runes

[sand spruce]

Muchas gracias. Intentaré desinstalar primero el juego, y si no funciona, hablaré con atención al cliente... ;))

[azure sluice]

keep grinding I guess lol. Especially if you can get Enlightenment and accuracy runes for him. The OE are bad for Corrin trick because the miniboss left the field while final boss reduce energy, but vortex should be good

Wait, since Corrin has 15s rotation, he might work against final boss with the right timing

[ocean schooner]

The problem is that I don't remember the timer haha
I had the same poison in S2 and was decent Vs the last boss
But the affinity was fire/poison

[azure sluice]

S2 OE is lightning poison against Lossenia and Mekkatorque.

ANd abyssolosus have different timing than Mekkatorque. But with the right healer, you can actually use solo healer and 4 dps

[ocean schooner]

I'm lacking in the top healings ,I had a very bad summoning session from s1

[azure sluice]

Oggok is literally the best poison healer, who else do you want?

[ocean schooner]

Ice ?

[vital lodge]

What is the best affinity in s2

In your opinion

[snow ingot]

The one you got the best heroes for 😉

[urban aurora]

ice&radiance felt like cheating

but then again, so did poison/lightning , as i ahd zeffi and oggok ^^

[acoustic fable]

Fire/necro was my best affinity 🙂

[red wave]

ya affinity matters only for the units u have

[snow ingot]

Everything was better before rook!! (Ofcourse because i still dont got him xD)

[red wave]

Today i beat up a lvl 265 rook in a challenge for the 1st time

[proud birch]

Seeing as experimentation is too expensive ... What's the best vortex team I can make? I'm in S3 at vortex iv

Currently using Garrett, sutha, Sigrid, heks, Frur. I was going to change heks for vicuc for dispells of def down, but maybe I can make a better lightning/Necro team? Heals feel light

[azure sluice]

Do you not have good wild team? Fire/radiance was pretty great in S3 vortex outside Rook team

[proud birch]

I can make a budget rally team, but I don't think I have either fire or radiance in a great set? I might be wrong though

[azure sluice]

You do have Sutha/Garrett, Schaltar, and Nathaniel, but you still want some pure healer

[proud birch]

Used tonalnan errich in earlier season but sutha Garrett out classed those two

[azure sluice]

I don't know, maybe you can use Estelle with high HP (her heal scale with her HP) as tank, supported by Nathaniel. Then use Schaltar with high enlightenment as main dps, with Sutha carrying witch remains. The last one is either Garrett or Iola.

[proud birch]

That's an interesting idea for Estella as tank. I'll level up shaltar for challenges anyway and see how things go before I invest in her, but thanks for the suggestion

[old veldt]

Idk about gareth, but whenever i am considering sutha i am thinking of pairing shaltar, the damage from this last one is amazing

[proud birch]

I'll test out which is better as a two set, and see if I can fit it as 3 👍

[dull crater]

I feel like you probably want to use another dauntless hero like Schaltar with Sutha and Garrett. Oh I see now someone else said that! Oops!

Did you try Ghul’ende at all? If you can get fast enough the heal attack penalty might be nice in that team. I don’t have that hero so I haven’t had a chance to experiment

[proud birch]

I tried Ghul (tank, although it's mostly HP gear), meggan, sutha, Garrett, schaltar. It got to 5m on vortex iv - there's just not enough heals.

Sutha, Garrett, schaltar, heks, Frur. 10-11m. Heals too low without Frur getting def buff from affinity.

Sutha Garrett Sig heks Frur. 11-12m.

Sutha schaltar Sig heks Frur. 13m+

Sutha schaltar Sig meggan Frur (no poison affinity) 11-12m

I can try Estella as tank with meggan for 5*affinity... Otherwise I think vicuc is going to be the next lift to dispell the def down

[azure sluice]

Problem is Ghul'ende have 23 s rotation and the heal is limited because it scales with buff removed, and Vortex only apply 1 debuff. Also his battle skill doesn't affect their recharge. Vortex isn't Ghul'ende turf

[azure sluice]

If you use 5 element, go with Nathaniel instead of Meggan. He dispel debuff with battle skill, apply shield, def+, and heal over time. Then the 3 dauntless with Schaltar equipped with high enlightenment

[proud birch]

Ok, will level him and Estella try it out, I'll need them both eventually anyway

Thanks for your help 👍

[drifting plover]

Gameedge

[old veldt]

If vicuc works there for that reason then meggan should

[proud birch]

Vicuc would keep poison affinity and the def buffs for Frur which makes everyone survive longer, that's the only diff between vicuc and meggan for my team

[old veldt]

oh sorry, indeed affinity isn't same as mine so i did a mistake

[proud birch]

ah it's only 3 hero affinity (Necro/lightning & poison/ice) but it seems to help

[proud birch]

Reporting back for sharing, I'll try to tweak to get it to last longer because sutha is the tank currently, but the best I've gotten so far is 12m with this

Without Ghul and ATK down/def down best I could get was 10.3m (running Garrett instead, for three dauntless)

[astral heath]

Estella works better than zhar loth?

And since u're using Nathaniel and ghul end, maybe kyrza can be used instead of Estella?

[azure sluice]

Estelle S3 heal self and another hero, and scale with her HP. So she could be used as makeshift tank. Zhar'Loth heal scale with attack instead.

[azure sluice]

Oof. How about Iola? Ulti faster, apply attack down, can equip Def down, so you can make Sutha pure dps and time them together

[urban aurora]

estella + nathaniel + ghul seems support overkill

[astral heath]

@hot adder post here. but lothair is gr8 tank

[astral heath]

just know that epics and rares are good in this game

[hot adder]

I thought they was, I changed my list lay out to show

[astral heath]

frurbath is probs ure second best tank

[hot adder]

Lothair is that poison guy yeah

[astral heath]

oh lol u have garius too

broken account

[hot adder]

Lmao why

[astral heath]

build garius first. he will be useful in all content

basically very strong tank and can solo heal ure team

[hot adder]

Ah I like the sound of that 😂

[astral heath]

garius is actually a hidden legendary

[hot adder]

So garius and Lothair for my tanks?

[hot adder]

Sweet

[astral heath]

ye. but focus on a main team first to progress

[urban aurora]

iif you mean ergander, with lothair, then yes ^^

[astral heath]

build sigrid too if u have her

[hot adder]

I literally just reinstalled it now

[astral heath]

oh yeah ergander. always get his name wrong

i meant ergander not lothair soz

[hot adder]

Np

[urban aurora]

ergander is great - really ncie in goblins aswell

[hot adder]

Him?

[urban aurora]

yes

[astral heath]

yes that one. u dont have lothair lmao

[hot adder]

I remember him lol

So ergander and garius?

[urban aurora]

u already got frurbarth/dane/voresh and agrius aswell

nice pulls 😛

[hot adder]

Haha Ty

[astral heath]

lol actually broken s1 acc.

[urban aurora]

next u want the rare champ : sigrid

[hot adder]

So those 4 and ergander?

[urban aurora]

but u can easily get her form the rare selector chest from the monthly battlepass - the f2p part

[hot adder]

I just collected a load from a pass. Nearly filled it

[urban aurora]

go to your ivnentory then

and check for a blue chest

[astral heath]

wait wait wait. he may have sigrid. he may not have taken the pic

[urban aurora]

he will see- hwne he opens the chest

when*

[astral heath]

its early reward. so u already should have it in ure inventory

[urban aurora]

press B

sec imma login, and check how the chest looks li,e i should have a few

[hot adder]

That?

[astral heath]

ye u can use it. and tnen not pick anything

[astral heath]

so its okau to click use

[urban aurora]

yep that one

[hot adder]

Pick Sigrid?

[astral heath]

does it show u dont have her?

[astral heath]

oh ye

[hot adder]

I can select her

[astral heath]

yes get her

[urban aurora]

back to afk - kids making a mess

[astral heath]

she is also a hidden legendary

oh ure in s2?

[hot adder]

Ty to you both, I'll build these ones

[hot adder]

Not sure, I literally just reinstalled

[astral heath]

if u open ure clepsydra it should say

[hot adder]

Where's that, sorry

[astral heath]

if you go to the +

on the top right

[hot adder]

K

[astral heath]

big blue rod looking thing that takes half ure screen. click it

[astral heath]

oh ok

am so confused lol.

its okay talk to the guy.

[hot adder]

Is there more seasons, should I not be in this one

[astral heath]

no u have no choice. u gotta do that

[hot adder]

Ok so now just play and build those heroes

[errant river]

Anyone have a good line up for Season 4 Grave of Rot? I can't make any of the help line ups and what I do create gets beat every time.

[snow ingot]

Without knowing your roster its hard xD

[errant river]

Oh OK, I showed you yesterday. Just wondered what would help.

I used this line up to get me to stage 8. Remember I have no legendary healers but almost everyone else. 😀

[snow ingot]

Just Post ist always with requests, because nobody wants to search the channel if someone already posted it 100 messages ago 😉

[errant river]

Oh OK, I will take a look, thanks.

[snow ingot]

1st thing i see here, you got no dispell/debuff Block and ult reduce

And the increase of difficulty from 8 to 9 is big, so if you cant brute force a kill you rely on playing the tactics

[errant river]

Tell me about it, 😂 difficulty has certainly gone up

OK I will try Vinjara and or Elecebre

[fathom lantern]

hi

[hot adder]

@astral heath

[astral heath]

Mc is good in s1!

[hot adder]

Who's MC?

Updated heroes from this morning before work

[astral heath]

The one with the red background

[astral heath]

I thought I would be pulling on iskalland banner. No way now that I know oak is coming back lmao

[hot adder]

What season is that, 3?

Any good with Sarlach?

Couple more legendary now

[azure sluice]

The only one that combo with Scharlach

[azure sluice]

Group the heroes by elemental pair and sorted by preset instead of level so we can help easier

[azure sluice]

If you can deal 22M on all chief challenge you'll only need to pull 5 times anyway

[azure sluice]

Ok, so there's 4 hero that's considered the best epic in the game and should be prioritized for scrolling. Those are Garius, Frurbath, Voresh, and Zhar'Loth. The honorary mentions to round out the elements are Adolphus and Iola.

[azure sluice]

As for the rare, Sigrid and Usha is standout; Sigrid dealing damage to anyone on the field with debuff and apply relevant debuff, while Usha has one of the highest damage potential against enemy with Frost. Tioh as honorary mention, as his captain aura (30% att on all area) is literally only owned by legendary hero otherwise.

[astral heath]

should be all seasons on 17th january

[hot adder]

Ok I'll take a look at him later then

[astral heath]

@hot adder adding to this i would personally also scroll eli after

hes really good in goblin, and overworld. but also insane performance in s2 for mekkatorque fight as well

[hot adder]

I'll build those rates as well thanks all for the continuing help

[astral heath]

so what am saying is save ure pulls. save all ure heliolite dice from now on.

[hot adder]

Oh ok, will that not set me back?

[azure sluice]

How early you are in the season? If it's around the start of 3rd month it's kinda too late for you to get very far, so better to just save up for the next season start, while still using what you have to do Otherworld exploration as best as you can.

https://discord.com/channels/928541801260908546/1176629084411936778 use this as a guide for endgame

[hot adder]

I'm early I think

[azure sluice]

Oh start of the game. So here, many times, scrolled rare is better than unscrolled epic, sometimes legendary. So scroll the following rares: Sigrid, Wellby, and Irina. Then add Garius and Alton. Scharlach and Vicana isn't that great, but Alton is the 2nd best Rally enabler and combo with Wellby. Irina can dispel buff and apply attack penalty II. Sigrid can apply that as well, but also you can just build her with high damage

[hot adder]

Ok will do and I'll report back

[hot adder]

@azure sluice

I maxed out all the rare heroes skills also

I need journey exp now

[zinc nest]

Got Hegio or Tathlyn?

[hot adder]

Hegio yeah

[red wave]

Isitarion probably the highest dmg dealing unit you have

better then scharlach in most dungeons

[hot adder]

I've swapped to what Sam suggested

One sec

@red wave

I've maxed the rares skills

[red wave]

ya they are all really good, just saying that isitarian will deal more dmg then any of them

[hot adder]

Oh ok let me see that hero

I can't fit him in now

Need more exp to build the necro team

[red wave]

ya the team you have now is really good

[red wave]

btw, unless you really need ur units to be lvl 70, you should keep them at lvl 69 so that they soak up exp you get from fights

[hot adder]

Oh I never really thought of that

Ty

[red wave]

also garius really doesnt care about any other stat the def so keep that in mind when you get gear for him

he doesnt need hp or anything at all its just extra

[urban aurora]

early on, flat defense on parts outdoes def% aswell

[azure sluice]

Isitarian + Joyce is probably one of your biggest damage source until you can fully scroll Alton. But joyce are mostly single target, while Wellby + Alton is aoe so useful in goblin and grave of venom as well

[astral heath]

For spring of iskalland. For my radiant team am currently leaning towards building rally because philto lorentheel and Hubert. But am scared he will absorb the rally and get stronger much faster. Can aura work without aemonleyda? Or only with diantha and that epic?

I will be using this oak to pull on lightning banner if it exists, cause I don't have a single dauntless leggo. And I really wanna play something other than Shai nactan nissa 😂

[dull crater]

I did pretty well with my aura team - Theohein - Carreth - Diantha - Rose and… probably Ardreth

[dull crater]

They weren’t like top top Damage from what I recall but they stayed alive the whole fight and theohein was hitting for close to 1M every ult for me

It’s hard because of the small window to do the most damage during the backlash window. Basically because I was using Rose I had to manually do the fight but I think I let Ardreth go on auto and then rose first for Wr then Diantha then Carreth then Theohein

[astral heath]

Did u get 22 mil? Or 11?

Probs will use Dane instead of rose. That should work similarly

[dull crater]

I just looked back and fortunately I posted the team in my alliance - the photo I posted had them at 24M but I think I was able to get them above 30M

[astral heath]

Awesome. Thanks a lot!

[dull crater]

I liked using rose because she was healing/ attack penalty and multi hit meant she could usually always succeed with defense penalty. I remember I tried to use Dane in my wild team and he just didn’t use WR enough. Could always try it on Ardreth

They didn’t stay alive for me without another person healing

[astral heath]

That's fair. I don't have rose. So I will have to use someone to land that atk down. For me that's either fihrah or dane

[astral heath]

Instead of ardreth I'll probs use staff garius.

[dull crater]

Diantha is still not scrolled even now btw. I did scroll the epics

[astral heath]

Makes sense!

Am saving my epic scrolls for this. I thought I would use them on my ice blast team, but pretty sure they should be able to get 22 without scrolls

[dull crater]

Yes good idea - I think I used him in the fire team. But I feel like even Catherine might work there

[astral heath]

Don't have her either 🤣

I will probs pick her from the oak festival if I don't pick liko

[dull crater]

She’s really great I even used her in vortex for a while

[astral heath]

Hoping it's the same oak 👀.would really like her

[dull crater]

Oh but I see you have synarell! Another great option for either the fire team or the radiance one.

[astral heath]

Truuu. But probs for fire team. I need to have some to strip his damage reduction for radiance team.

50 percent damage reduction is whack

[azure sluice]

Eh, Fihrah and Dane is kinda essential for the fire boss. Back then, I just use Catherine, Garius, and 3 dps without defense down (I got 22M but it's painful)

[dull crater]

I think I did end up using Dane and I must have put WR on someone else

[astral heath]

I think I'll will use one of them for fire boss on 2nd week. It's 3 teams first week. So I am doing ice blast, corrosion and aura

And then wild 2nd week

[azure sluice]

That's kinda why I used Elminster back then

[astral heath]

Ye he pretty good for that content. I wish I had lol

[dull crater]

I realize now I could have got him but I had no clue what I was doing I was fresh fresh when that event dropped .

[azure sluice]

No necrosis team? That's the boss that can be fought with 1 self sustaining tank + 4 dps

[astral heath]

I'll probs end up with a very similar team, but ardreth instead of gar. And tonalnan insteadof thea?

[dull crater]

Oh my necro team was kind of stacked I got stupid lucky and pulled Ozul right on day one of S3

[astral heath]

I need to invest in necrosis accuracy node

[dull crater]

I didn’t have Tonalnon at that point it was rough

[azure sluice]

Yeah, with Errich carrying witch remains while Tonalnan pure dps

[astral heath]

And you managed. That's crayzy

[astral heath]

Probs gonna use rhash. No errich for me sadly

[dull crater]

Yes I think soon after this I pulled Tonalnon - probably during this event actually and then I also finally got Felicity from purple dice

[astral heath]

Is this gonna be better to do first compared to the radiance and fire boss u think?

I saw u guys were saying isitarian and Joyce are really good?

[dull crater]

Oooo I had a necro team I was really proud of that I used for chief challenges. I really love Vaskka but never use him and finally got to

[azure sluice]

Isi + Joyce is strong here since they are ranged. Just look up the positioning.

[dull crater]

Yeah they are both very powerful as well as if you have Taldie and Tattoth for shadow

[astral heath]

Ye I saw. Main tank in front and everyone else at back

[astral heath]

Shadow works better compared to isi Joyce and premtsa?

[azure sluice]

Hell, I used all epic + rare team by the time OE arrived. Estelle or Meggan as solo tank works.

[astral heath]

Did u have another healer with em?

[azure sluice]

Shadow gain energy from attacking, including basic attack. So with high attack speed, they ulti the fastest

[azure sluice]

No for Estelle, but I have attack penalty

OE teams

[astral heath]

Well am really only aiming for 22mil so I should be fine with one less DPS?

Oh I think I can take u're 49 mil team

Replace thia with taldie

Thanks so much both of you 🙏! 💯

Tatoth instead of chitter*

[dull crater]

No prob! I liked building all the necro teams for this boss since you only have to keep the tank alive you have some cool options

[dull crater]

And yea absolutely I think he is the only other epic that is ranged like Taldie. And you have Daphne she will boost you a ton

[azure sluice]

What I don't like is Tatoth battle skill and ultimate is slow (ulti doesn't use all the energy immediately) so he needs Taldie help to keep up with Daphne.

[hot adder]

@azure sluice

Should I fully scroll Alton now?

I'd only have Garius left to scroll up for that line up

[hot adder]

@astral heath

[azure sluice]

Sure.

[astral heath]

disagree

[zinc nest]

X2

[midnight cave]

can someone help me with some good solo, single target dps heroes?

i feel i only have aoe or heroes that require another enabler

[red wave]

why dont you share ur roster

[midnight cave]

aschetius what am using atm

i have every epic bar like 3 i think

[red wave]

oh man sorry i cant really help, s1 here
But i do believe i have to mention - have you tryd our lord and saviour Isitarion?

[midnight cave]

think he needs other summon units for the big damage right?

i dont think his summon would survive stage 9 boss

@lime wasp i summon thee

[red wave]

well the only trouble the chicken had with survival was in ancient battlefield, but isitarion not good there anyway cause of the buffs

oh and rot if u dont run mega cleanse but other then that everywhere he's my best dps unit - but i am season 1

ppl underestimate him cause they dont understand he's summon - its permanent and it deals alot of dmg on a fairly high attack speed - so thechnicaly ur running 6 units instead of 5

[midnight cave]

i might use him on season bosses

in necro team, not sure he is good in rot though, think chicken might die

[dull crater]

What content are you building for?

[midnight cave]

anywhere really

specific in this case its rot

[dull crater]

Ugh I hate that dungeon haha ok ok are you season 3 or 4 oh sorry I see you have calavera

Season 4

Hmmm honestly I have Ozul and since I got him I just use him to smash through everything - I think aspalta can hit hard as well but I don’t have her yet🤞 let me check my team - I think I got enough to make a few sets from that dungeon then abandoned it

[red wave]

Ugh can you do rot at all? or u just want a sterioid team that can spank him in 1 minute?

[somber ivy]

Aspalta my fav

[dull crater]

So I did 9 I used this team but Garius and rose with another support probably any two dps could do it

Do you have Ardreth?

This team I’m using elsewhere but the aura mermaid isn’t really hitting that hard in this instance - rose is doing work though dispelling poison and healing and attack penalty

I realize we’ve gotten off track I know you were looking for dps lol sorry

I tried rot 9 with a budget corrosion team and they could almost do it.

And these guys did it but just barely -

[red wave]

46 seconds - just barely

[dull crater]

Any longer and they would have been dead haha

[red wave]

but that dmg is fcking sick

[dull crater]

Yeah Astaion and Perseus are a perfect match and the shadow duo does really well!

[midnight cave]

i do have ardeth, i found rose ffd with my timing sthoug

am tryting aspalta now

[dull crater]

I think aspalta can do it

[midnight cave]

honestly not a massive difference

[dull crater]

What is your team / placement you’re trying?

[midnight cave]

garius is being eaten right now

[dull crater]

Who is that in the back with the cape

And Aschetius and calavera in front as well?

[hot adder]

@astral heath

Necro team?

@severe cedar

I've been saving my heliote

[severe cedar]

Look. Be honest if you wanna play for fun, questions maps etc you can use necro ok fine

But for vortex and arena its not good

Also for dungeons

You have good heroes
Garius horrus sigrid vicuc

[hot adder]

Yeah I'm running garius, Sigrid/Vicuc, Irina, Welby Alton currently

[severe cedar]

These heroes are ok for fun

But you need a tank

I recommend garius. He is a great tanker and healer

[hot adder]

And vortex?

[severe cedar]

For vortex maybe necro

[hot adder]

Think I did about 2.7m yesterday without epic equipment

[severe cedar]

At moment you dont have another comp done

Necro should work

[severe cedar]

Just be careful to spend books on these legendary heroes

[hot adder]

I used Meggan for cave of venom

[severe cedar]

They are not good in middle and end game

[severe cedar]

Yes she is great
Irina sigrid are too

[hot adder]

I have booked the rares and Garius

[severe cedar]

Thats right

[hot adder]

Looks like I'm waiting till the 17th to pull in oak event then haha

Which element would you suggest for S1 @severe cedar

[severe cedar]

Thunder or Fire

They are better for vortex

If you prefer arena Frost

[hot adder]

Tyvm

[lime wasp]

No time for today, sorry.
Send a message after the beep...

Beep!

[astral heath]

Gerthin aspalta or rhash

Between those 3 use the one that can get you u're 5 hero affinity

Luckily u can complete book gerthin. And she doesn't need any other iceblast.. make sure to land u're defense downs tho

On the other hand if u can't successfully land defense down, use aspalta. But you wanna build her AS and she does need atleast one more shadow to give her ult faster. She could solo if you have really high AS.

Rhash well. Man has ult energy back as long as wilding. So more of his ults. Ie more consistent dps

[azure sluice]

The problem is the main healer also got stun as well, so Rot has very annoying timing. I just don't care since I have Acilia, but your dispeller choice is horrendous

[azure sluice]

Either fire: wild is great DPS for Vortex, and you will get Errich from story. Also the like of Journ is great always
Radiance has plethora of great healer and tank, and you also have Alton, so more incentive to build rally
Lightning isn't bad, although the only really good tank is exclusive
Avoid poison for now. Poison as DPS type is pretty bad, and while the great leggo IS great (Oggok, Ergander), the bad is bad (Talwer, although the dev made him useful for multiple bosses)

[hot adder]

Radiance it is then roll on the 17th

[midnight cave]

vicuc

[midnight cave]

gertin didnt do the job, she needs an enabler

[midnight cave]

rhas i have been considering, dont want to hbook though

[astral heath]

did u apply def down?

can u show me what artifacts u running?

[midnight cave]

i dont have a good applier, all the other heroes are single hit ults

its on the dnd dude

[astral heath]

bro i gotta scroll up

[astral heath]

u can use fathomdown to apply?

[midnight cave]

i dont want to change turn meter

why i removed rose. i have everything timed well

[astral heath]

so ure team rn is? garius ardreth (not rose), aemonleyda, orfenna?

and gerthin?

[midnight cave]

this is the team

[astral heath]

bro i legit cant tell which hero is which

[midnight cave]

vicuc, edminster, calavera, ascehtius, garius

[astral heath]

got it

and aschetius is ure main dps right?

[midnight cave]

yep

[snow ingot]

These are some interesting combos xD

[astral heath]

so can u confirm that you can get the kill? or is this u cant get the kill

are you trying to speed up ure time or u cant finish it?

[midnight cave]

i barely finish in time

seconds to spare

[astral heath]

got it

[midnight cave]

often i dont make it due to rng

maybe i could swap edminster for the burn rarew goblin, for dps and def down placement

but the control immunity is useful

[astral heath]

and everyone survives?

and ure affinity bonus comes from fire poison, necrotic ice, radiant lightning right?

actually keep everyone except aschetius

replace aschetius with sigrid

she does slightly less damage, but she will apply heal prohibition. thus stopping rot from healing himself

[snow ingot]

Gerthin, shinnah, feenja, vinyara, vicuc. Thats what i would go for in rot

Feenja as tank with staff, shinna witches

[astral heath]

i think at some point he said he doesnt wanna change it up too much @midnight cave ?

[snow ingot]

🙈 🤣

[astral heath]

u should try this first. sigrid is good throughout the entirety of the game. even on oe. so u may as well check if this works.

[snow ingot]

If he almost runs out of time with ashe, he wont do it with sigrid 🙈. Looks like a gear issue

[astral heath]

nahhhh cause sig applies heal prohibition. and rot heals a lot if u allow it. he has no heal prohibition in his team.

[midnight cave]

i think fail state is dps, not surviveability

[midnight cave]

will need to drop dps for acc though

[astral heath]

just want to confirm

[midnight cave]

but yeah thats not a bad idea!

[astral heath]

slingshot

[midnight cave]

?

[astral heath]

the relic

each point of acc gives her 8 atk

[midnight cave]

i think i have it

[astral heath]

270 acc = 2160 atk

its pretty much built for her lol

i have tested quite a bit. the damage seems to be like 10 percent lower compared to eyeball

but for an accuracy build cant really complain about that

[midnight cave]

i will try that when finished my arena runs

[astral heath]

80 180 cd on both

Even before however. Do u already have elminster equipped with witches remains? From my remembering his ult deals damage right? I know it's only once. But that would having atleast some rotations of aschetius ult dealing significantly more damage?

[midnight cave]

yeah its on him

oops shes not even 100

i think this will work, hilarious shes better than top tier legos

i might not need elminster either, would like a healer with multi hit ult that doesnt do TM change

[red wave]

um rot doesnt heal off of shields - just like curse dont get shield when dealing dmg to shields

[snow ingot]

I dont use heal Prohibition there since 2 seasons. Just burst through. So dps problem xD

And yes, you can use a shield to prevent him from healing

[snow ingot]

Tm you can time too, sure there is a small fail chance (when the 3% resist comes through) like Rose, just increase your rotation time to i think it was 21.5 or sth like that. Vinyara is even easier to time because flat reduce

[midnight cave]

yeah i guess you could maths it

just seems too hard for my brain, what with skill haste reducing battle skill timing

[snow ingot]

10sec 30% reduce = 13s

So should be rotation around ~21s

[sand spruce]

@exotic nexus Muchas gracias, me tuvieron que orientar a una descarga en un servidor ruso... :))
¡Saludos!

[azure sluice]

The only one I think can work Solo is Asphalta, but I don't think you can make full element combo with her

[slender rain]

Can someone help me team up?

[solar valve]

S1?
i would use ice/necro:
Vorresh and Ghulende for sure.
hochadir and Lucien build tanky.
as healer rare dark Meggan if you have her or use Catherine or Heksandra even if off element combo until you get her...

[slender rain]

Tks bro

[azure sluice]

Lucien is great in arena, and contribute recharge speed penalty in dungeon. Ghul'ende help there as well. Voresh to use unclean crown.
The problem is dps. what Ice rare you have? Usha?

[slender rain]

I have her

[blazing dust]

any lineups for the planar challenges? can't seem to find any on internet

[astral heath]

What's a planar challenge?

[wind iris]

Check thos section. There is a lot of lineups for the WorldChallenges s1 and a2

https://discord.com/channels/928541801260908546/1162853243974602872

[azure sluice]

I guess you could use Hochadir + Usha as dps or better, Wilt or the rare frost skeleton to enable her, since scrolling up th rares is easier

[west void]

Ok, need some suggestions for a vortex team and arena. Sorted by element, also have some rares that don't show.

Currently using frost, pulled many at the beginning

[solar valve]

you are still in S1 now?

[west void]

Yes

Was thinking to focus on necrosis now, pulled ripekas and the support guy yesterday

And mix it with frost

[urban aurora]

arena : ergander/sigrid/voresh + add w/e u like

dont need affinity

jsut make sure u stack all the haste u cna get on voresh

[west void]

Ok cool

Add ripekas? Or don't need 2 tanks?

[urban aurora]

its over before any of your tanks will get to ahlf hp

[west void]

Or a heal

[urban aurora]

anything to slow the enemy down will help

could sue vicuc to be immune to enemy debuffs

[west void]

Hmm ok

[urban aurora]

arena is all about beeing fast

[astral heath]

@midnight cave this is what am using in s3. The survival is coming from ardreth (to give 100 resist) garius and vicuc is there to remove the heal prohibition.
Sig for atk down so garius doesn't die just Incase vicuc couldn't land it. And using rook as my DPS.

[urban aurora]

and enemies attacking ergander adds the debuff u need for sigrid to oneshot everything

[west void]

Ok, and Sigrid build? Full attack?

Crits and all

[urban aurora]

another pvp team could be something like eurion/dorkuraz(way better than rava in arena),ripekas/trolgar + X

[west void]

Kk, need some speed gear it seems

[urban aurora]

if you want an easy time in goblins , you can eitehr run sigrid + ergander combo

[west void]

Yeah I'm doing that

[urban aurora]

or jsut ignore the ergander, and run with usha as a tnak and 1 frost enabler + voresh/sigrid + X

[west void]

Yeah using voresh and Sigrid

Trollgar

[urban aurora]

in that case, jsut make sure that u place usha not in the very first tile - but 1 more back - so all enemies line up in front of her initially

[west void]

Rava for frost

[urban aurora]

personally i like usha better than trolgar (more dmg, doesnt remove frost)

trolgar is a force of his own in pvp though

[west void]

Hmm kk

What about vortex team?

[urban aurora]

good question

[solar valve]

for vortex try ergander, sigrid, vicuc (which is great in every content imo)
then the optioins are limited.

[urban aurora]

does ergander atk down even work in vortex? when the boss is only using skills?

i honestly never tried

[solar valve]

radiance rally with philto and gitouna perhaps to add some damage,
until later

[west void]

I think it does yes

[urban aurora]

for vortex u generally want :

1 dude to do atk down
1-2 supports to heal/shield/dispel and make u be alive for as long as possible
1 pure dps
1 person to enable the dps

if no enabler - add a 2 nd dps

and the more supports u can remove and still be alive a long time, the better

generally speaking, early in season affinity is not that importan (as long as your dps is part of a 3 affinity setup)

[solar valve]

i don´t remember but on my first account i used Ergander everywhere and the tanked almost everything

[urban aurora]

and normally its either lightning or wild that can deliver consistent dps while having some form of utility to be alive (atleast in s1 with lightning paired with radiance)

frost in vortex is crap

[west void]

Hmm kk

[urban aurora]

as its aoe dmg msotly, and u want single target champs, that excel in that role

i tried, i really tried frost, to make it work in vortex - but even a legendary frost setup, gets ebaten by epic/rare wild or dauntless

[solar valve]

sadly you have no wild and for lightning only Ivelious and epic shaltar, which is probably not enough for now.

[west void]

Yeah need to expand my roster

[urban aurora]

this here gets obliterated by simple epics from dauntless or wild

[west void]

Yeah can guess

[urban aurora]

thjose 3 for example

[west void]

I know they're aoe, but just used those because I had more frost when I started

[solar valve]

if we get oak summon banners on the 17. you can try to go for lightning (dauntless)

[urban aurora]

i mean, you can do frost in vortex for now - and use thorin as support

it will work - just not very good

[west void]

I'll try Sigrid and vicuc

+something else

[west void]

Ok I'll save some summons for now

Still got many heroes that need levelling anyway

[solar valve]

it´s hard, cause you want AOE to clear goblin as high and fast as possible, but for Vortex it´s almost the opposite

[west void]

Yeah

[urban aurora]

im in s4, and still doing goblins with sigrid

[west void]

Yeah she's great

[urban aurora]

i did it with usha for a long time
becasue i liked frost a lot ^^

but sigrid is just simpler, and stronger, AND useful in every other dungeon aswell

• i clear fey with sigrid

pillars anyways

[astral heath]

@midnight cave and to show u it works . Even tho it's just 4 runs. It's full auto. Always a minute or more remaining. No one is close to dying.

[urban aurora]

you can sue thia to cheese ghrave of rot in s1 very easily, now that i tihnk of it

[west void]

Yeah I use her a lot

[urban aurora]

sooner or later u will want those legendary stun sets form there - they make a ton of content a no brainer

stunned enemies simply cant fight back ^^

[astral heath]

The thing is. For rot. What can kill runs is the 3 percent chance of u not resisting recharge speed penalty. My garius doesn't have enough haste to ult every cycle before he gets eaten. So yes it's possible. But I am also quite sure rots rotation isn't 18 seconds. It's probs like 17.6 or some number.

Maybe 17.8.but its own rotation is definitely faster that my 18 second ult recharge time.

[west void]

Kk thanks for the advice @urban aurora and @solar valve !

[astral heath]

But because am also applying atk down from both Sigrid and vicuc. It's not something I worry about. If it resists twice. Bruhhh that's just luck.

[urban aurora]

np at all

[west void]

I will try another team today see how it performs

[urban aurora]

i mean 3% and 3%

THATS 9% IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT !!!111122

https://tenor.com/view/annie-murphy-yay-me-flirting-trendizisst-flirty-gif-17110789

[red wave]

why dont you put he's ult right when the recharge speed debuff drops? so he can cleanse it from him self?

[astral heath]

Not enough haste to keep triggering it.

[astral heath]

But I will try. I think it's big brain. The issue is that I have him on 18 seconds. And it seems every round the boss goes faster by a few seconds

Am I trolling?

[red wave]

um yes

its not 12 seconds its 13.5 or 14 seconds

[red wave]

megan or adolphus? for energy buffing? or journ or w/e els you have for that

[astral heath]

Honestly I think it's fine
Ive done 20 x2 runs today

And haven't lost once

Each with more than a minute remaining on full auto

[red wave]

ya that works lol

[west void]

@urban aurora the team you suggested kicked some butts! Climbed up the ranks a lot!

Now need better gear though, I'm still with epic

[azure sluice]

I mean, I used both until I switch to Shadow team.

[urban aurora]

i dont have any shadow QQ

[dull crater]

None at all 🫣 ??

[urban aurora]

close to that

[dull crater]

Chitter is good! And I’ve only used the dark elf as a filler in an other world team… if you are able to get your hands on Taldie ever that will make a good duo . But I think Chitter can honestly do ok on his own not crazy crazy but good damage

[red wave]

Guys will witches remains activates garrikas passive skill?

[rare parcel]

If she applies the WR then it should

[red wave]

mm

[red wave]

What about Drugas blast jar? does the debuff from it even counts as a debuff?

[hot adder]

Need help with grave of curse

I need different heroes I think but I'm not pulling for another week

[urban aurora]

best thing to hunt with garrika is for adventurer mains :p

[urban aurora]

thia + heksandra + 3 mroe rnaged chars

thia is tanking - needs to be scrolled

NVM - i thought u meant grave of rot

[hot adder]

It's the shield boss

[hot adder]

I do have rot to do at some point so I'll bear that in mind

[rare parcel]

No

At least I don't think so

The same way as yellow bordered debuffs don't "count" as debuffs in that manner

[red wave]

Garius Sigrid Gerana +2 dps

gerana is the lighning rare

[red wave]

also like the mechanic of curse is that - it doesnt get shield if it doesnt deal hp dmg - so if u can shield up ur self and take no hp dmg the boss wont get any shield

[hot adder]

Ah gotcha, I was thinking about his shield thanks for clarifying

[red wave]

ya i at 1st also was brainstorming how to get a unit that would remove shields etc but ya its not really needed

[hot adder]

I was the same, I thought I can't do this until I start summoning again haha

It worked as well ty

[urban aurora]

there is a lightning rare that can steal buffs from enemies - some tiny dude - he used to be rather good in curse iirc

[hot adder]

Ooohhh I'll take a look

[red wave]

mm maybe replace sigrid with irina - cause for this dungeon they bouth debuff atk but irina dispells 1 buff aswell so might be better in this case

[hot adder]

Would he steal shield though @urban aurora ?

[urban aurora]

nope, but he steals the buffs from the boss

and appleis them to himself

gimme a sec, imma look for it

[hot adder]

Going to check it out now, I've got nearly 50 heliote saved so far so the 17th can't come quick enough 😂

[hot adder]

I'll go see if I have him

Nope I've yet to summon him

[dull crater]

An epic option if you do want to dispel shield is the lightning rat… shook I think his name is. If you end up pulling him he is good in that dungeon. I think he might put a recharge speed penalty or something so that can mess with timings. He worked for me for a time. It is easier (I think ) if you can have enough shields on your team that you don’t need to worry about it. Frost traveller is a good shield option as well with the epic ( I guess it’s legendary now) manticore statue artifact to increase battle skill damage

[hot adder]

Ty for your advice. I need to start summoning again but I also need to wait for oak event so it's a little frustrating atm but there's nothing I can do about it

[dull crater]

Yeah no problem! The fun and challenging thing is that there are many combinations to succeed in most situations. Are you summoning your purple dice at all?

[proper quarry]

Iam reading that Schaltar is a good option for the lightning team. On this team im not sure how to optimize it. I would have to make it Lightning only because my Radiant/Rally team is fully set up (currently S1). Dont have enough experience how to set up a great dauntless team and im not sure if i even could. Wanna mention that i could add Gillian as a healer. Thanks in advance for any advice!

[dull crater]

Heya! Is this for a vortex team or continental challenge team

If it’s for continental Is season 1 the Errich boss?

[proper quarry]

The team would be for the last 6 days of the red dragon continental endboss. Nothing special about him other then dispell needed. For Vortex my poison team will be better anyway so only continental boss.

In the last days of the season i try to get at least the single element teams right so i can adjust with the element synergy change next season.

[hot adder]

Yeah I'm just not lucky at all 😂

[red wave]

i got all the s1 rares by the start of 4th week, ull get there

[dull crater]

Ahhh okok! Yes Schaltar I think is an epic MVP when it comes to dauntless. And I do think Gillian is a strong support in this case as well.

[dull crater]

Although you may want to consider using Shook as well . You need to dispel the debuff as well as mess with the ultimate energy of either your team or the boss. I think you need 4 stacks of the special debuff on the boss to put him into the vulnerable state. He might be a good option

[proper quarry]

Yeah, so replacing Isitarian and Ihuacatl with Gillian and Schaltar would work i guess. But i think a problem could be that i only got the epic tank in the middle of the team which isnt dauntless. Any suggestion how i could handle this? I already needed to put Trolgar in my Ice team in tank gear because i dont have a good tank there also, and this didnt really optimized the team. Is it possible to work around that with a strong Gillian and putting Garreth or Schaltar in Half Tank Half Atk Gear? So that i could put in Shook also.

[azure sluice]

iirc it's not, because that one doesn't even need accuracy to hit

[red wave]

Ya i figured would be massively op combination thou lol

[candid dawn]

Just started S3 today
Which team of these too is better for goblins? Or overall any content that needs AOE

[azure sluice]

Goblin? Usha Lossenia Sigrid Vidimir Voresh

[candid dawn]

Those corrosion looks interesting

[candid dawn]

I don't think Usha can survive but I'll try

[azure sluice]

Copper dragon? His gimmick is to use energy manipulation 4 times to remove a buff and stun him, and he receive more damage while stunned. So what you need is 2 healer/support + 3 dps, equipped with incense or candle. nathaniel to dispel his debuff. If possible use aoe dps. All of them makes dauntless not that great for copper dragon

[azure sluice]

I literally used Usha as goblin tank for 3 season straight (and started S4 with her, but later changed to shadow with Chitter). Her shield + Voresh heal should be enough if you leveled her up.

[azure sluice]

Seriously, what is the rest of your team? The energy manipulation gimmick means necrosis and fire is 2 of the strongest teams

[hot adder]

Should be better on the 17th when I can use the heliote I've saved haha

This team I'm using in goblin is really good

I'm close to doing level 8 three star

[red wave]

Are you sure you need garius for goblins? im sure you could replace him with sigrid and deal lots of dmg instead

[hot adder]

Healing really

I would try but I'm out of food

[red wave]

basicaly goblin teams are sigrid + debufers and sub dpses

[hot adder]

@red wave where can I get more food, I need 140 to up my journey level to carry on questing

[red wave]

because sigrid hits everyone with debuff with her ulti and then every enemy that dies with debuff on gives sigrid 25% ulti

so if she kills 1 wave she can cast ulti instantly again

and agian and again untill ur done

[hot adder]

Need to get her levelled up then

[red wave]

this is my goblin team lvl 12 s1, no tanks or healers just dps

[candid dawn]

It works, got 3 stars clear ty

Op team

Are the gear dungeons still the same? Or do they change in S3?

Need to prepare a team for them

[wind iris]

They change every season up to s4, their skills change a bit

[candid dawn]

S2 they were the same as S1

[wind iris]

Read here for changes between s1 and s2

https://discord.com/channels/928541801260908546/1187441175179837600

[midnight cave]

i mean you have rook lol

[wind iris]

Ans for s4

https://discord.com/channels/928541801260908546/1251407990548860929

I dont find the s3 guode unfortunately

[candid dawn]

No need, what I meant is in S2 i used the same teams as S1 like for raven only make garius bulky and for curse same things remove buffs and shield and grave same thing clean debuffs etc

[wind iris]

Well, yes, a lot of stuff is similiar. Affinity of your heroes habe changed though, so for 5 Star affinity you need to reconsider lineups for stages 9 mostlikely

[proper quarry]

Yeah i read that dauntless isnt the best team for this challenge. My other teams are build around that mechanic and are set already. So im trying to figure out the best possible team with my lightning heroes.

[candid dawn]

Will this team work for ice domain and grave of root?

[snow ingot]

Domain yes, rot i dont think so

[azure sluice]

My 6th team back then is just all AoE hero left. Including Tamar, Lucien, and Sigrid iirc. Removing/preventing debuff would be great, and so does creating shield because over time copper dragon shave off the heroes max hp

[candid dawn]

Because of the atk down right?
Then what do i change? I need a team for both dungeons

Man i remember doing almost every dungeon in S2 with ice blast team except goblins, i only replaced one of the heroes with vicuc in some places like root and flame domain, garius and ardreth was op

[astral heath]

@midnight cave lol wot about it?

[azure sluice]

S3? 3 Minutes? What is your rosters?

[astral heath]

maybe i can do it faster, but am trying to just autoplay and leave. but since u wanna help make it better

i aint saying no to that

[urban aurora]

whats the elemental pairings in s3?

poison and ice?

[candid dawn]

Ice/poison
Fire/radiance
Lightning/necro

[urban aurora]

thx!

[candid dawn]

Np

[azure sluice]

I kinda forgotten what gimmick it has in S3, but it's still generally debuff with skill 1 , 2 debuff with skill 2, then nomnom with ulti. So my tactic back then is Staff Garius with ~100 skill haste as tank + healer, cleanser, healer/debuffer, then 2 dps.
I see that you have Ghul'ende that could cleanse all but the timing is funky, though you have Thia. My idea is for you to use Garius with staff up front
Vicuc to remove 1st debuff, Thia to prevent 2nd debuff. both with 18s rotation
Then Dargo + Rook as dps

You don't need the healing prohibition since Rook hit hard anyway

[astral heath]

can try. but gonna need some skill haste runes. i havent done 9 heretical or ancient yet

[urban aurora]

Thia Thia Thia

and jsut blast it with strong deeps

[red wave]

how the hell do you do heretic without any affinity!?

[astral heath]

thats the crazy part am not. but also i already have 5 affinity unlocked

[red wave]

im asking litteraly cause i need it for the ranking this week and so far i dont think ill be able to do it, need way more dmg then i have

[rare parcel]

Whats your Season and which heroes did you lvl?

[red wave]

s1 - everything i have

[rare parcel]

Hmmm

[red wave]

there are still 4 days before rankings end so i can lvl up stuff but yes im lacking in dmg

[rare parcel]

I'd try something with: Garius as tank, Lossenia dmg dealer, Sigrid Heal debuff, Voresh Buff block and Iola as Att down and deff debuff

[red wave]

wont i get demolished by splash dmg?

[rare parcel]

Put them 1 tile apart

So leaving a gap inbetween them and doing att down before the phoenix deals most of its dmg should be enough

[red wave]

ill try it for sure

did not think of useing iola instead of auster thou

[urban aurora]

u got a strong wild comp

do not sleep on tonalnan - he is awesome!

[red wave]

ya but i kinda dont have a place for her atm... its felicity adolphus journ sigrid garius and some switch ups for debuff removel or immunity etc

[urban aurora]

frurb/felicity/errich/tonalnan + X

but i agree - can be hard o get 3 wild into a comp

really comes down to what u do

[rare parcel]

if he goes for no affinity that wouldn't be valid either way

[urban aurora]

oh, i mustve missed that part

https://tenor.com/view/the-office-office-ryan-temp-donkey-gif-25041081

[red wave]

will frurbath be enaugh? hmm

[astral heath]

actually for this. and iskalland intercontinental. my intial team was gonna be frurbath, heksandra, gerthin, bleddyn, nord (i thin nord should be better than seidic?), but now am considering using auster instead of nord/seidic. what yall think?

[red wave]

Auster seems alittle weak alone

[red wave]

Did it with this team! Couldnt survive the splash dmg without immunity - phoenix attacks everyone that has burn so. But hey still almost 1 minute in reserve! Thankyou for reminding me about Iola

[rare parcel]

You're welcome

[azure sluice]

My tactic back then is to stun the little bird a bit after they cast the ultimate: this way, they already used up their ultimate skill but stop buffing Fyre. I had Tamar though, so I don't know if silence (Iola) or fear (Zhar'Loth) could be substitute. Anyway, iirc the timing is at 15.5 s with 24.3 s rotation
Cleanse/apply buff prohibition to prevent the burn
Garius as tank/heal
Someone to apply attack and or defense penalty
And main dps

[astral heath]

sounds like a u problem. hes solo. enables himself

[astral heath]

h needs end game equipment

[red wave]

not without accuracy... and with accuracy lower dmg

[astral heath]

i have my dargo on 240+50. and they sue the same artefacts

[hot adder]

I really need help with venom and curse level 7

Not sure if I need better heroes for them

Could be a gear issue, they're mainly in epic

[azure sluice]

Unless you just want to upkeep frost, there's no point for Auster solo.
Bleddyn choose the hero he give ice crystal randomly, so you only want him with 1 other (Gerthin).
Honestly for S3 chief challenge ice, you just need 2 healer and 3 dps, so Bleddyn - Gerthin - and someone to apply defense down.

[azure sluice]

Gears. Venom is easier (just damage check) but you need good gears for the heroes to survive, especially early when Garius haven't reached 20 stack passive. The scarab artifact is good to protect him then. Curse either use shieldbreaker or strong shield applier, but you have neither (and iirc you are saving for oak blossom?).

[red wave]

the further you go in the dungeon lvls the more skills times become important - most bosses are on 18 second rotation and most scrolled heroes are on 20 second cooldowns so you either need to nuke them before you reach ur limits or reduce the cooldown of ur debuffing units to 18 seconds so that they fit in to the rotation, lastly you can increase the time of boss rotation by ulti down or recharge speed down debuffs but then u need to be very precise in ur auto combat times

[hot adder]

Yeah I'm saving so it seems I just need to wait till the 17th and hopefully pull some good heroes

[hot adder]

Definitely need to start summoning then so I can hopefully get the heroes I need

Ty for your continuing advice all, it's greatly appreciated ☺️

[red wave]

mm Adrie - necrosis rare unit can actually do alot for you

she reduces ulti by 30% and then adds the recharge speed down debuff

and you have her to lol

but you need to be specific for times

[hot adder]

I'll check her out cheers

[azure sluice]

You have Adrie and Questa, one rare and another epic. Both would be good especially for endgame as well. I just don't know if you have the scroll for them yet.
If you do, use one of them to slow down the enemy. Check back here for the timing setting.

[hot adder]

I'll go look but I think I only have a couple of scrolls for rare or epic

Yeah I've got to wait for now, I've caught up to the time lock on journey level also and I've used nearly all my food so I guess I could put the game down and do some housework 😂

[midnight cave]

thats better!

[urban aurora]

auster with accuraccy is rpetty strong - he needs to land his first ult to get the frost debuff going - after that its perma frost debuff

the more atk speed the better - like the epic horseshoe artifact

[red wave]

Ya but in s1 its hard to get high dmg and high accuracy both

[urban aurora]

venom 7 is like 100 accu?

[red wave]

For me is venom 12 and 270 accuracy

[urban aurora]

^^

my venom maxes out at 9 and 220

[red wave]

Wtf

[old veldt]

<- in season 1's QoL changes waiting room since a year 😄

[urban aurora]

how is increasing the required accu by 50 a qol ? xD

[candid dawn]

Which one of those tanks is worth skilling up?

[wind iris]

Ardreth and quaes both are very nice, adreth is more a maintank and quaes is a support tank in my eyds

[rare parcel]

Ardreth one of the bes tanks in the game and Quaes is tank/support
Never saw anyone use Stanguem before 😅

[jovial horizon]

Hey guys Ill show you my ice heroes can you suggest an ice blast team for vortex? or other uses?

[rare parcel]

Felosia (Ancestral, Enl, Aurelium Vest), Shinnah, Beldelle, Gerthin, tank/healer from the other affinity

[jovial horizon]

tyvm

Dallbam not godd? ill gofor garius then all the time

[rare parcel]

Garius is better

Which Artifacts do you use?

[azure sluice]

S2 now? Garius as tank.

[jovial horizon]

yeah

ill show artifacts

[rare parcel]

Gatekeeper on Garius, WR on Shinnah, I'd suggest Manticore/Arcane on dmg dealers, Hourglass on Felosia

[jovial horizon]

WR?

[rare parcel]

Group them together so Felosia Battle Skill can hit everyone

[rare parcel]

Witches Remains

[jovial horizon]

ok, apart of vortex, which other situation is recommendable the ice blast?

[rare parcel]

Fey, Some of the Graves

[candid dawn]

Yeah quaes is debuffer tank, i got Daphne and i red somewhere that Daphne and quaes are good together idk how
Arderath helped me a lot in S2 without scrolling her

[rare parcel]

For that to work you need high res and atk higher compared to everyone on the team

[candid dawn]

I was leaning towards stanguem tbh she has good buffs for fire domain and grave of root, and will be nice with my dauntless team

[rare parcel]

Otherwise Atk down debuff will influence you too much

[candid dawn]

So it's for PvP?
I might build her later then i don't really care about PvP that much

[rare parcel]

Yeah think so

Maybe Goblins as well. But I don't have Daphne so I'm pretty much guessing from what I'm seeing so far

Quaesitia has some decent survivability on her own so I don't know if she needs that healing/more atk

[candid dawn]

I will choose her i think i need to build my dauntless team asap, they have the best usage in many places
They have many cleaners support and debuffers

Or maybe use quaes and stanguem together lol

[azure sluice]

Daphne is Shadow, they just so happen to share element

[azure sluice]

No, Stanguem only dispel debuff from herself, not from the whole party. Her value is in the def++ and control immunity (that is given to the whole party).
Quaesitia is useful because she apply multiple relevant debuff and manipulate energy, very useful against dungeon bosses.

[azure sluice]

You already have witch remains, no need to upgrade unclean crown. For Beldelle and Gerthin I recommend manticore/arcane music box/horseshoe. Beldelle+ Shinnah is very strong pair in dungeon, then you can mix & match the support/tank depending on the bosses.

[candid dawn]

Yeah her control immunity will help not getting debuffs
That's why i said both will work good but i still need the healing i guess

[azure sluice]

Control immunity has nothing to do with debuff. You are thinking debuff immunity

[urban aurora]

control = purple icons

debuffs = everything else, thats not in a yellow thingy around it

[red wave]

Uhmmm does Gaiolere's clone undead unit is permanent or do is it have a timer? it doesnt say in skill disciption?

[snow ingot]

The clone stays 20s

Just tryed 😉

[red wave]

Oh oh what about in auto combat which unit does he actualyl clone? the highest atk or maybe closest to him?

[snow ingot]

With highest atk

[red wave]

Thankyou so much!

[snow ingot]

And i think he prefers the permanent ones like from isitarian or scharlach

[astral heath]

@azure sluice ty for the Necro team. I can get atleast 12 mil. And my characters aren't booked. I don't have the affinity unlocks either. Team is alive throughout, the damage is just lower. But that's fine. Just happy I can get the 11 mil reward.

@zinc nest ty for the spreadsheet. It's coming to big use!!

My IB did 40 mil (just epics) I used Nord anyway way just cause I had him levelled and team wasn't dying. I'll probs unlock the poison damage 5 affinity before I save it!

[azure sluice]

OE or chief challenge?

[astral heath]

intercontinental challenge

spring of iskalland

[rose jetty]

Anyone used Vicana for poison team in CC boss (I don't have Lothair). Wonder if I should scroll her or Jathalea for more damage.

[red wave]

You can use both

[red wave]

Vicana ulti - stack up as much poison as possible while trigering explosions when it ends in 10 seconds jathalea pops it

[azure sluice]

Used neither, but from older calculation Vicana kinda sucks. At least Jathalea can deal big damage in CC if enabled, but she's big nonbo with Corrin. In s4, you can just load up Deeno with high accuracy + attack speed and Jathelea with enlightenment.

[somber ivy]

That won't do, Deeno is not enough. Deeno with Twitch might do though.

[urban aurora]

afaik, Vicana got nerfed (she used to be godtier for nuking stuff) - and after that nerf - she - does quite underperform .. to put it mildly

[azure sluice]

Kinda funny that Jathalea used to be considered the worst poison legendary

[rose jetty]

Well that suck for no Rook club. I think I will use Corrosion with Whisk sabrina and Dargo ( need scroll Whisk) cause Poison wont do well in end boss.

[hot adder]

@icy flax

Sam helped me build my Rally team and it's done really well tbh

Ok so I can drop Alton and Sigrid from my venom team

K I'll need to scroll the lvl30 poison

I think I've scrolled the others

Oh ok

I'll go level them up and try lvl8

Will do

Brb

I need to get some upgrade mats for the lvl30 poison hero

Garius gets mauled nearly instantly

I think I need to farm more legendary

Ty

K

@icy flax

One sec

My element is lightning radiance

Do I swap it or?

Ah so just got to wait

I'll build those up now

I just upped main character to 90 so that ones ready to go

[red wave]

ur not gonna get high ranking with that thou

[mental moon]

Does your vicuc and irina have high accuracy to land atk down?

[urban aurora]

can always sue some food aswell

goiung the rare artifact for defense boost ingame might be worth aswell

the defense is calculated after all the toerh defense boosts

and not additive to existing %def

its borderline broken on garius

[red wave]

So i got a practicality question, if i dont have any poison explosion/other poison mechanic use units for a poison line up s1 chiefs, only units that debuff poison and thats that, is it pointless to lvl them up?
lvling sigrid and some other rare poison supports that can use crit sets and deal deacent dmg, seems more useful.

[urban aurora]

just stick to poison as an element, and not a mechanik then , yea

[azure sluice]

No. Jathalea at least have value since her ultimate is aoe and useful against the final boss, but poison sucks in S1 barring Lothair - Corrin - Rift Hourglass

[red wave]

But i asume i still need to do 22 mil dmg with a poison team atleast once so still need to do the works on them

[astral heath]

sigrid eli letalis frurbath heksandra?

[red wave]

Was thinking of, dench or jijen instead of letalis they seem to do more dmg

[astral heath]

letalis is for applying consistent atk down, and -20 ult energy every 5 seconds

evry 10 seconds*

just to increase ure survivability. but if u can survive without him already for the entire duration then u good

dont need him

[red wave]

Idk heksandra with gatekeeper should be okay?

[astral heath]

yup!

but also its possible that near the ends when the damage scaling starts peaking, u get demolished if theres no atk down applied

again if u already have heksandra bullt just test run first. and then if still not surving u can try letalis

no need to invest in him now. 🙂

[red wave]

Ya still a week to min max everything

[astral heath]

Because technically both frur and sigrid apply atk down.

but letalis just makes it so that even his autos have that 30 percent chance. which is just so good imo. for me atleast.

[red wave]

I also have no idea what bosses are there, like if thers cc or aoe

[astral heath]

i guess just know that that could be one of ure options 🙂

[red wave]

Oh ya hes great, and i really have no poison units, like only 3 epic ones

[astral heath]

but also i personally like letalis more than jijel. they do similar things, but uptime is higer for letalis

[red wave]

But jijel deals a chunk more dmg

[astral heath]

ye. well i guess survival was always more of an issue for me. so thats why my preference 😦

[red wave]

Might just be the same for me, ill start finding out tomorrow

[dull crater]

Are you staring CC tomorrow?

[red wave]

Ya, imperial shadow event starting

[dull crater]

cool cool cool ! Do you know who you’re using for your first three teams?

[red wave]

probably fire/necro/ice my strongest teams atm, but its still in the air abit, cause of the oak and how its starting the same time, ima try getting some good rally team and might be radient instead of 1 of them

[dull crater]

Who is your strong affinity right now

I always feel like my fire team is strong but my poison is week so I usually save fire//poison for later on

[red wave]

id say its between fire and necro

i got good fire heroes and maxed fire/poison affinity and necro is 2nd strongest, sadly i dont have any lightning or radient legendarys, but ya poison seems like the worst elements i have atm

[dull crater]

I can’t remember anymore have you played through the other seasons or is this your first run through season 1

[red wave]

Lets just say its 1st time, i playd old season 1 long ago but i hardly rmb anything about it

[dull crater]

Ok!

[red wave]

im trying to get a frame work for all 6 teams atm but my radient really really lacking

its worse then poison probably

[dull crater]

I can’t remember if radiance was with errich as the boss or… hmmm

[red wave]

ya thats also the part idk what bosses will do...

but radient will have garius and i have the staff so thats kinda covered

just lacking rally combo

[dull crater]

Ohhh Radiance is against jathalea

And I think maybe lightning is against Errich

[red wave]

thats good i think i can beat up both of them pretty easy

[dull crater]

I think there’s quite a few videos on season 1 bosses if you’re not opposed to that

[red wave]

ya ill be researching that tomorrow friday alot freer

[dull crater]

Positioning is pretty key for most of them it’s different for each one

The Thelendor boss positioning doesn’t matter as much because he hits the whole board aoe. Just depends on who you have as support and what their range is

[red wave]

can you cc bosses?

[dull crater]

No you cannot

Some things like ultimate energy manipulation work on the continental challenges

And debuffs etc

However, Control does not work

[red wave]

aah what about the energy bar? is it 20 seconds or like normal bosses with only 6 second interval?

[dull crater]

Maybe it’s 18?

Let me check

[dull crater]

Sorry for the delay my house got a bit chaotic

Yes I think they are 18 second rotations with a skill every 6 seconds

So you will need the right amount of haste on your supports

[red wave]

aww man i thought maybe i could lock them out with ulti down, would be fun lol

[dull crater]

I think you can use ultimate down

Recharging speed penalty works at least

I can’t remember the exact limitations

For example I like using Rose whenever possible but she always messes up skill timings

[red wave]

ya but you cant stop them 6 seconds is not enaugh for a proper lockdown, unless u bring a 5 element team with vinyaras garrikas and huldorks etc. but even its a streatch lol

[dull crater]

You can just slow them down

[red wave]

i mean stoping them from using skills all together by ulti downing them constantly

[dull crater]

Mm nope they will still go through the full rotation

Slowing them down can help though. Every time the boss cycles they gain a stackable damage up buff that you can’t dispel

The slower they cycle the slower they stack that buff so that’s something

[red wave]

mmm idk vinyara - 100% ulti so 5 seconds and it can be on 15 seconds cd, then garrika and huldork can do another 100% ulti down with garrika also on 15 seconds cd, with ripekas and another unit its doable just not practical lol

[dull crater]

I don’t think it allows for 💯 honestly I can’t remember all the mechanics

But that would be crazy if you could

[red wave]

it probably wont do enough dmg but ya its would be really cool

[azure sluice]

Jijel is for final boss because he apply energy manipulation and that's important for final boss.

Nah, full energy manipulation team may be able to stall enough but deal low damage. Just go hard with DPS.
Thelendor IS much easier when stalled so he doesn't have rally by the time he cast ultimate. Otherworld exploration 22M f2p necro team is like that

[hot adder]

Still go all in radiance?

@azure sluice

I can also pick an epic

@red wave @astral heath you guys have helped me as well so your input is also required 😉

[astral heath]

Save it for now. U will probs do some pulls on the oak banner?

[hot adder]

Yeah I've got 65 dice currently and I'll probably buy a pack for some more so be about 100 dice minimum

[astral heath]

Because I like frurbath and voresh. Frurbath is found in poison banner and voresh in ice banner

In lightnjng banner is nathaniel

[hot adder]

My element affinity is all lightning/radiance

[astral heath]

Adolphus in fire banner as well

Depending on which leggos u want.

[hot adder]

I was thinking of the rally team

[astral heath]

Ye makes sense

I would say u wait and pull on radiance first

[hot adder]

Seeing how I have Alton and hegio, I can drop Welby

[astral heath]

If u get lucky and can pick up Huberg or philto. U stop immediately and then pull on either fire banner or ice banner.

Also go to dragonheir info and check the articles on s1. There are a lot of free currency givers that you need to complete

[hot adder]

So fingers crossed I get huberg or philito

[red wave]

5 dice = x5 thalendars incomeing

[hot adder]

Yeah there's some in fey I've been saving and my journal I need to beat stage 7 in venom etc

[astral heath]

Or thelendor*

[hot adder]

I looked at him he looks good like really good

[astral heath]

Basically the 3 rally dps lol

[hot adder]

3 rally DPS Alton and Garius then 🤣

[red wave]

its a hard name to rmb, unlike rook

[astral heath]

I just keep forgetting he's s1 and not s2

[hot adder]

So I pull for 1 of those 3 or all in for thelendor

Will the rally team be strong throughout the seasons allowing me to consolidate my dice and push for rook once available?

[astral heath]

Fyi poison isn't bad to get. They really good for the first 2 seasons. Vicana and talwer are the only Ls in that banner

[hot adder]

I have Vicana 🤣

[astral heath]

But that's my main issue, a lot of them because too niche at s3

[red wave]

alot of it depends on what u want or choose

you will need more then just rally so

[astral heath]

So If u wanna pull. There would be nothing wrong. Imo Durango twitch lothair and lethander look so good

So if u just want poison aesthetics

[astral heath]

1 of those 3.dont go all in please

Like on that radiance banner sagomir is the only L but so good for early pvp

[hot adder]

My current lineup beats frost and flame for the upgrade mats, fails hard in the other 😂

So I could go for a new line up I suppose

I don't want to mess this up as I feel it could set me up for the rest of the seasons

[astral heath]

Which is why I think after u pull on radiance. Get 1 and then consider between fire and ice

Fire and ice are very viable for all seasons.

Necrotic has ghul ende

[hot adder]

I haven't been lucky in drops in fire and ice, I don't have many heroes

[astral heath]

But u need premtsa and lelwanis for big chances. So not really that worth. Imo

[astral heath]

Yup would be good for u to go for them after then

Save u're epic chest.

[hot adder]

Looks like I'm waiting till the 22nd then haha

[hot adder]

Ok will do

[astral heath]

Same

[red wave]

pretty much

[astral heath]

Although @red wave u can confirm that frurbath is hidden legendary right?

[hot adder]

He's poison?

[astral heath]

The best poison defense and probably the 2nd best defense epic in game

Behind garius. Although I think it's good competition between ghem

[red wave]

eeeeh idk hes good right just i dont think he's op

[red wave]

that is true just he's behind garius but like its not even close

[astral heath]

Use any other poison defense.

[astral heath]

It's cause he works well with horn

Garius is staff, frurbath is horn

[red wave]

yes actualy that gives him higher score in my book now

[astral heath]

Solo heal both of them except 1 gives atk down and the other has hit recovery

[hot adder]

Oh also any tricks to that horn summoning, I've yet to hit double figures 🤣

[astral heath]

Be lucky. Get good

I have had no legendaries from horn.

[hot adder]

That's me out, I'm not lucky

[astral heath]

Ever. I have received sagomir for starlight

But I've probs Done around 1000 starlight's. Soooo. Considering it's def not much.

.2 percent chance... My behind

[hot adder]

Yeah 1 from 1000 is terrible odds 😂

Ty for your help as always @astral heath @red wave it gives me a nice plan to follow instead of me just summoning in everything 😂

[astral heath]

Hey look. At the end of the day. If u pull for aesthetics. No one will judge!

[hot adder]

I like to compete so

[astral heath]

Which is why max respect to stermino. This guy doesn't use characters even if he has them, if he doesn't like the aesthetics

[hot adder]

Each to their own I suppose, I'd prefer the ugly troll if it meant me winning 🤣

[red wave]

I think i can tank Bionprhay with usha

[hot adder]

@red wave @astral heath

Save these prayers till I'm ready to pull?

Hopefully I get the acorn

[red wave]

lol its 1 time 1 helidcie discount x4 dice for x5 roll