#📊┆dragon-lineup-help

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round wagon
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That aerial armor in season 3 is awesome. Not sure it's for her. but those set bonuses was pretty nice.

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I'll play some of pillar and then farm.. Oh it's 10 am. Nevermind. I'll just through up a farm and go to sleep. then head to work lol.

mystic mist
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assuming you mean Ardreth you probabky want her in Ancestral Protection or Puppateer depending on season ur in, she can help make the rest of the team beefier

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@rose jetty also build her with ACC, haste and attack speed on runes, put crown/witches on her and you're lookin at a lot of D Down uptime

safe nebula
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He is s2 we have the set that gives atk up when she places debuff

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Forgot the name.though😂

mystic mist
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y'all have ancestral though right

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so i guess its just a matter of if you need that survivablity

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since he's looking for extra heals seems ike hes worrying about living

rustic turret
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Hi, could anyone help me get past stage 59 of the pillar? fire/poison

plush thicket
high kindle
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What stats do I need to improve on her?

mental thunder
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<@&1024931953465626644>

rugged locust
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@hollow plume could you help me explaining how this line up you used works?

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i am beginning season 3 and i want to beat shadow since i did not get ozul

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this one too

polar rivet
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Anyone can help with Fey Meander - 192 line up?

golden smelt
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The stats look good tho

shadow cove
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Who is best to pair with her ? Nimbus or shaltar ? To get it from the 99 cents cest ?

safe nebula
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And u can wait u dont have to open the chest right away

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You will get more starlight

high kindle
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I will replace him once I have Ardreth.

high kindle
golden smelt
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Then, just wait for Ardreth and u will be set for everything since u already have Shinnah

high kindle
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Summons 37/60

keen smelt
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Any advice ? I am stuck on these

shadow cove
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Put you main demage dealer in the middle covered by the tanks for the second picture. For the first one probably you need better gear

keen smelt
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First one is still a struggle, but thanks i was able to clear the secund pic and the whole area after it ❤️

inner jungle
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Any suggestions on S3 Labryth Challenge 15?

mental thunder
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without knowing your roster, no. but also: it'll be easier than challenge 17 🫣 (no legos, support and defense only)

inner jungle
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Who I have at 100

mental thunder
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well i'd say vinyara for sure; she can lock up elcebre or ripelkas

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felosia for sure, theo and bride

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so maybe frurb in there and tank it out

real meadow
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How the hell are you supposed to beat 3 Iolas in Fey 156? I've tried stacking resist, I've tried counter-stunning, I just don't know where else to go in terms of strategy

mental thunder
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5/5

inner jungle
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k ty!

mental thunder
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basically trial and error it, see which one unit you need vinyara to lock up and make it happen. she needs no other stats than resist and accuracy.... 400 each is overkill

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try locking up dorkruz first, and keep everyone out of vidimir's battle skill target area for frost avoidance

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that will minimize his damage and take frost out of the equation

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and if your tanks up front and healers have resist 400..... elcebre is pointless with her charm

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that leaves just soaking the damage. and with felosia shields and frurb heals.... prob shouild be ok

polar rivet
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I need help with Fey Meander 192

mental thunder
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vinyara def helps in fey

wet wasp
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hi Guys, i recently got zeffi and finally can run a proper unkillable, does this timing seem right to you? or is there a better timing for those in vortex?

brave meteor
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boys need some help on pillar of trial 60 (S1 Fire/Poison). I don't have Frurbath = (

zinc nest
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Are you having trouble surviving or killing the boss

brave meteor
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running out of time : (

vast seal
proud quail
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Jailer + Scharlach + Irzillas a good combo for s3 end boss? Sharlach ult into Jailer copy into Irzillas buff

golden smelt
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Is demon skull artifact good for all summoner like Joyce? Or just Scharlach?

wet wasp
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@frail yew @vast seal thank you guys

midnight plinth
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Hi guys I need help for these Pillar Trial

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Almost 2 weeks stuck there 😮‍💨

red jungle
rose jetty
red jungle
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Exactly, you need to build some dps to go with the supports. Just build a frost enabler for Auster and done.

rose jetty
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I dont have Auster but Hvitar. Rava + Voresh + Hvitar work too ₍₍ ◝( ゚∀ ゚ )◟ ⁾⁾

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Rava and voresh with stun set kkkk

midnight plinth
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Well... They are in my lineup

  • Usha and Gardrus
    Voresh used the stun set too but somehow my frontline was killed in the first enemies ultimate
red jungle
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They must not have very good equipment.

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Ardreth and Garius should be very tanky in def % chest and gloves and defensive artifacts.

midnight plinth
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Ardreth already 5k Defense
And Garius almost 4k and using Staff too

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Do I need -attack debuffer?

rose jetty
midnight plinth
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Okay please wait

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Both lineups failed miserably 😤

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5k and still feel like paper 💀

rose jetty
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Because Auster hit ignore 5k def

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5k def mean nothing with Auster. You need defeat Auster asap.

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Try increase Garius HP. 55k is not enough

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You need another Frost enabler

midnight plinth
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Thanks guys made it to 60.. And stuck again 😒

midnight plinth
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I have Rava but don't have Doz

rose jetty
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Its him. But Rava is better because of her Captain aura

midnight plinth
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Ooohhhh

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So... Rava it is

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Well for level 60? Rava still good?

fast ibex
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If Sparta and taldie regenerate ozul to max shadow energy when already in demon form can it ult again ? I mean the dmg bit ?

midnight plinth
mental thunder
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and possibly endgame bosses if you need a ranged necro option and have the supports in affinity

proud quail
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I have Felicity, Errich, and Caspar for my wild comp already. Will this guy replace one of those?

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I suppose I could make a second wild comp with him, Alfie, and Nedda...

fast ibex
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On boss fights felicity and grass do more dmg

proud quail
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Even though Errich gets scaling wild chance?

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Weird

real meadow
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Do I have a team that can clear S1 pillar 60? I managed to power through 50-59 by being clever but now I just run out of time and I think it's because I can't get through the trash fast enough.

mental thunder
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but tbh rhash / caspar are going to be relatively close in dps, so if you scrolled caspar why replace him at all.

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rhash adds more wild procs though, he's better than caspar... but he's not flora

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felicity on witch remains + errich on dps + rhash/caspar on dps and should see great numbers

proud quail
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that's partly the intent of my question, trying to figure out what to do with these compensation scrolls

mental thunder
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save them for s4 exclusives? 😁

echo garnet
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Guys, I hope I found the right channel for this. I’m stuck on S2 "explore the descent corridor quest". I just started as a new player, have 5 chars (see picture) at lvl 70, buffed 10% att/hp and the 55s are just killing me like clubbing baby seals. I tried different combinations but nothing helps, any advice?

echo garnet
proud quail
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Haven't looked at s4 champs yet, but RN the main pain points for my acct are poison dps champs

echo garnet
boreal quartz
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any idea why i cant do this mission? i have cleared everything in season1

hollow talon
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Achieve 100 in season progress

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Endgame boss I assume

boreal quartz
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i cleared the end boss as well of season 1
i have no other quest left to do

lunar fable
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Usually someone you have to talk to after endboss is dead.

boreal quartz
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tried everything but not able to find anything

worn jasper
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S2
Scrolled: shinnah, elminster, questitia, oggok
Unscrolled: ardreth, twitch, erric, rippekas, berengar, malak, Lucien, hachador, sharlock, dalak,

I got some scrolls. Who should I prioritize?

copper silo
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@strange fox I’ll look and see what I have as far as buff prohibit or atleast a dispel. Thanks for the advice

strange fox
copper silo
zinc nest
patent harness
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Hi guys, been having trouble with my Chief Challenges. People have mentioned the comp was fine but I can't seem to get past the 7M mark (I need at least 11 for every team to get Ardreth). Any advice?

mental thunder
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Comp is fine but you need the gear and the positioning

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Recommend 2x emperor (durem and araces) and 1x cyril set (karf)

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Spread araces and isolde out so the boss ult doesnt hit both and araces only sometimes gets attacked by a skelly

patent harness
azure pelican
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cant do Venom stage 7, my tank just dies. Im using this setup and those are my tank stats. Help please.

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im even using 5 heroes that can heal but he still dies

round wagon
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Have you tried a unit that either gives defense up or attack penalty?

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Also 3k defense couldn't hurt either at this point. Should aim for 4k in total as you get into legendary gear.

fair lantern
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i up my elemental affinity for fire-poison but my light heroes better than now what should i do

fluid egret
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Hey, any suggestions on S3 light/necro tank? I am quite struggling there

fluid egret
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Those I have, but I need someone from lightning or necrosis 😊

round wagon
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Lightning week. What 5 man comp would be best? And would I need timers?

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Got all day to tweek them, so no rush.

fluid egret
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No problem 🤟👍

mental thunder
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If you arent running garius or acilia then dauntless is basically trash in vortex s1

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Ofc you only showed lightning heroes so idk how anyone supposed to help you lol

mental thunder
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Vicuc and hels basically pointless there, ghul isnt helping you much and one melee tank is going to need heavy defense for solo tanking

patent harness
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Ahh nvm you're talkin bout the 1st 2 skills weren't you

mental thunder
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which gives him more survival time

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timers should be durem > karf > araces for ults, karf needs witch remains and 100% crit; araces closes it out

mental thunder
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i find his damage is better critting for burst than with enlight, but that's me... maybe others who use him can weigh in

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the goal with their ults back to back is to kill the skeletons so that irz doesnt get as much damage on you (and of course do damgae to boss also)

patent harness
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Also not enough books for Durem so Karf and Araces wait for his ult before using theirs. Karf is the one I got fully booked

mental thunder
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i used him on a friend's account to do his season 2 ardreth chiefs and i just didnt see good damage with enlight

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but in arena he slaps hard with crits

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and on my main i just used beags and percival with aeschetius so the reverse of what you have, and easily 22m

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so surely with karf and durem for better enabling and buffs and damage you should do fine with araces

patent harness
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Speaking of books, you helped me with my Ice Blast team with Quarion and Sagomir.. Do I need Sag to be fully booked? Still not getting that 11M lol tho same situation, only got them at 95, spent my energy a little dumb

I only got like 16 Leg scrolls left. I could max out 2 Legos but idk if I should use them on Durem, Sagomir now or save one set for Ardreth and use the remaining set on either of the 2

mental thunder
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i would save 1 scroll set for ardreth though, instant plug and play

patent harness
mental thunder
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yeah aoe defense down is huge

azure pelican
azure pelican
mental thunder
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And i would reset every unit if you still can

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And build only what you need for goblins and venom

brave meteor
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any ideas for fey meander 168? Stratwise

round wagon
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Garius and Catherine is all that seem useful So I guess that would make five for now.

mental thunder
# round wagon Meh, this is so embarrassing.. Lightning and Radiance units is a total clown sh...

i mean.... garius alone is nice there. catherine will prevent the defense down in vortex IV when timed appropriately and can top people off, so she can help sustainability. alternatively, you can go iola instead of catherine for attack down and she can hold your defense down artifact and be your brotherhood set user for attack buff, which allows all 3 dauntless to be full gambler dps

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garius with gatekeeper staff and iola here woul dbe great

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but even without gatekeeper, he can full heal your team and iola can keep them alive with attack down + increase damage with brotherhood set

round wagon
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The legendaries are unscrolled.. and will remain that way. ( Not impressed enough with them to skill them up. )

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Schalter, I couldn't find anything to actually improve him yet. Should I seek to improve Garius defense and hp?

tardy rampart
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do anyone have a team that can beat the adds in this ? i only can use epic and rare, and only defens and support .. but, i cant do it , if u have a team for this, ty !

mental thunder
bold onyx
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How to beat fey 184

zinc nest
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Throw some defense heroes and watch them use 9:45 mins in x10 speed to clear it

mental thunder
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first off, recognize the areas of the various enemy skills and make sure you line up all your heroes outside of them (i.e. huldork)

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then, bring 5 tank/healers with 400 resist and 400 accuracy

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then click auto

coral acorn
neon granite
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It's been 30 days since season 2 started. the final boss is very close. i need to create a team with the characters i have. can anyone help?

zinc nest
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For season 2 end game boss you need AoE mostly

neon granite
zinc nest
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Please share your rooster (units), organized by Element.
So we could easily see what you got and advice around it

brave meteor
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boys any ideas on FEY MEANDER 168? Stratwise

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nvm got it

real meadow
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How'd ya manage it?

midnight plinth
sharp path
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Just did pulls to start S3. Who should be my main campaign team for early on?

round wagon
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I'm tired atm. Any ideas?

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And... I'm going to sleep. lmao

patent harness
lucid cape
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👍👍👀👀😆

mental thunder
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@viscid dirge

mental thunder
# round wagon I'm tired atm. Any ideas?

You have no shields here also. And no multi hit debuffer for defense down artifact. Dont worry about affinity here at all. You either burn him fast or you outlast him. If you want to try and kill him fast, go:
Ripelkas, ghulende, lossenia, trolgar, usha. Make loss your defense down artifact and let ripelkas and ghul freely ult boss to keep attack down on him and push back his ult generation… just kill it.

Or. You bring adolphus instead of oggok and errich with defense artifact + another wild dps instead of sigrid (tonalnan) in your team above…

sharp path
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Particularly if there’s a way to only build 2 squads to start

neat berry
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Any ideas? First time attempting 7 on this stage

mental thunder
sharp path
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Without knowing how great all of the S3 characters are, are there two squads that stand out to cover mechanics across domain and gear dungeons

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I’m confident in my ability to figure that out without factoring in S3 characters, but there may be some improvements among them

mental thunder
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that entirely depends on what you have, not on some theory

sharp path
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Which is in the screenshots

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Shows all legendaries and only missing epics

mental thunder
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they are up further, i did not see them lol... you tagged me lower in the chat

sharp path
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Ah, my bad lol

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I’m thinking asch, kharf, Acilia, Journ for rad/fire

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Then the two shadow legos, ghul, fathom

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But not sure who the right 5th might be

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Probably not enough sustain in shadow without torrin

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But then wouldn’t be the ideal answer for ice/curse

mental thunder
# sharp path Just did pulls to start S3. Who should be my main campaign team for early on?

acilia, gillian, victor, aemon, ardreth is going to steamroll ice and necro domains, as well as curse. you can swap out victor for journ for venom and ice/poison domain (he's there for the shield removal for curse and ice). for rad/fire domain acilia can still be used for her immunity and cleanse; you can bring rook, oggok, acilia, sacredia, dargo for that one. for venom, i'd go with the aemon team and just drop victor and use journ. in all cases using radiance/fire you want ardreth as your defense down artifact holder.

vortex is going to be the poison team, period. drop acilia and bring someone who can shield (ideally felosia, but if you have frurbath you can use oggok + frurb and give oggok staff, frurb horn); dargo holds defense down arti. s3 you will use puppeteer sets from rot on your supports and tanks instead of using ancestral protector. the only time ancestral is useful is when you have a single melee tank taking all the damage, then at that point the damage reduction and resistance tend to be better.

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if you dont have ozul, i wouldnt bother with shadow early season. but aemon + ardreth + acilia + journ + gillian can basically carry through entire fey and pillar.

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for real. just single team

copper silo
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I need help with a necrosis damage team for the chief challenge. I know I wasted a bunch of materials on these summon units and I don’t want to “waste” anymore. Please help

round wagon
mental thunder
# round wagon Right, was forgetting about his steal buffs. I lasted almost 4 minutes with him ...

there is a point where you can brute force all bosses in game with speed runs and ignore mechanics... but in my experience on the recent s3 test server, that requires some exclusive dps, lots of legendary artifacts and really good gear. and in the case of AB, better yet ultimate manipulation to slow down his mechanics... my team was using a full 5/5 inspired shadow legendary team + fathomdown + ghulende and just would burn it down. i couldnt do that on my main with any team.

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so the safe play is damage over time, outlast him using proper balanced team and paying attention to mechanics and stat requirements

mental thunder
# copper silo I need help with a necrosis damage team for the chief challenge. I know I wasted...

s2 necro boss is actually pretty easy f2p if you are looking for just 22m. i think stew gaming has a video on it that shows the units... with your units, i would run... ripelkas tank high accuracy, ghul, zharloth, adrie, questa... you line questa up far to one side with ripelkas far to other side up front... boss moves to ripelkas and faces him on that side... questa comes up behind boss and avoids ult damage. only rip will take ult damage in that setup... with rip, questa, ghul, zharloth and adrie all having some degree of ultimate reduction or push back, they all need accuracy and dps stats... and basically you just delay the living crap out of the boss so he ults very rarely and doesnt stack damage bonus fast... you last the full time and just do as much damage as possible while surviving

round wagon
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lol, test server was a joke for me. It stasrted off around a good time, during the end of the week. Beyond that could only give it maybe 3 hours at best throughout the weeks it was open. Grinding gets boring fast after you can do it so much unhindered. Last 3 days was just a summoning session for me. I just hope they keep the mats setup for season 1 and also, the level up cart. Constant goblin runs around mid-season would just be wasting energy imo.

copper silo
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I will check out the video you mentioned as well

round wagon
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Hard blink. lmao

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I'll have to come back to this after reset. Only got time left for dailies.

mental thunder
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also you know dane steals buffs right? which means he will have buffs the boss will then dispel and get stacks from 🫣

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dane is trash here, get rid of him.... you need a multi hit ult for defense down. and sigrid frankly is just not going to do it for you, she's a single hit ult with not as much damage vs single target as you need to kill this quickly. should really try that frost team i suggested and can keep ergander tank if you want

round wagon
copper silo
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Do you guys prefer burn or wild against irzillas?

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Like I’ve wasted a lot of resources and want to just pick whichever team could potentially get me more damage between these 2 options

mental thunder
copper silo
mental thunder
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ya just position well

copper silo
mental thunder
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Attack and damage no crit% at all @sharp path

ancient dew
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Hey all, strongly need an advise as a first time player. What heroes should i focus on for s1?

mental thunder
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I would reset everyone if you still can and then build fresh

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Garius, nimbus, schaltar, vani, quarion/irina (replace with iola or catherine) for vortex

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Voresh, sigrid, usha, lossenia, dorkruz/rowena

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For goblins

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You dont have usha yet but use your rare selector to grab her

ancient dew
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Ok, as addition sutha and zharloth.
Sutha over nimbus, right?

copper silo
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I need help with fighting journ. If I can skill up wellby would he potentially do more damage than hegio? With the added benefit of not being melee?

snow ingot
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Why not both?

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Hegio is very good for journ worldbosd

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If you position right, you can jump out of journs ult and only the tank gets hit

copper silo
snow ingot
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Depends on what heros you got. Or are this the only ones available?

copper silo
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I have all the rare units

mental thunder
mental thunder
# copper silo

Just use that team this week and take the L with 11m but next week use your better heroes from alton team and get 22m with both

copper silo
golden smelt
# copper silo

U can use my team as reference. Garius also works vs Journ. I use Tahtlyn as witch remains holder. Wellby and Hegio are the dps

copper silo
rose jetty
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too bad we can't use the other rare DPS rally because Journ bs can roast her frog

woven kite
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Does anyone have thoughts on which of my legendaries are worth building/booking and have synergy with my epics or are universal slot-ins? I assume feenja is since she’s a strong support. I’m early Season 3

snow ingot
dapper haven
strange fox
high kindle
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Hello! I need some help regarding Ardreth. 20 more days until the event it over and I will get her in 2 weeks.

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I will pair her with Garius and because of this, I want to know which gearset is good on her, which substats must I focus on and what artifact and runes shall I use on her?

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If anyone can answer. 🙂

atomic vigil
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Hey guys - im stuck on stage 59 on pillar of taint and pillar of darkness. do you have any setup ideas for me?

snow ingot
golden smelt
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Yeah, i used Ardreth to wear witch remains in vortex with cyril set

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And in cc/ow, just monolise set

empty saddle
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Ivellios nimbus vani Nathaniel and frurbath ? Good team for Talwer ?

sour oriole
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Yes

safe nebula
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The back line doesnt get attacked

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Easiest boss probably

golden smelt
empty saddle
safe nebula
sour oriole
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and acc if you can fit it in, I didnt

safe nebula
empty saddle
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All 80+ crit rate then as much atk and c dmg ?

safe nebula
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Ivelious dont need crit rate crit dmg

golden smelt
empty saddle
safe nebula
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Atk% arms yes

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With as much enlightment substatz as u can find

empty saddle
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Any sets ?

safe nebula
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Emperor set on all dps

empty saddle
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Ah for the skill haste

safe nebula
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No for more dmg

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Skill haste is added bonus

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U need 3 pieces of the set

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Because chiefs have low base stats u get full 50% dmg from the set

empty saddle
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Ah okay will need to farm then as no atk % arms or enlighten chest in that set

empty saddle
safe nebula
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I have 5 teams alton
3 irzillas
1 lossenia
2 journ
3 irzillas
1 shainachtan

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All 22m

empty saddle
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Damn I have one Alton team that does 22m

safe nebula
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Alton and talwer super easy

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Talwer only tank matters

sour oriole
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2 journ🫣

safe nebula
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Alton does low dmg

safe nebula
sour oriole
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I know

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I got 5 Alton, 2 Shai, 3 Irzillas, 3 Talwer, 1 Lossenia and 1 Journ

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You should see my budget teams tho

safe nebula
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That is great 15 teams is super even

sour oriole
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From Lidl

safe nebula
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Easy top 10 if u can do that anyway

sour oriole
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Yeah I am set top 6 now before endboss

golden smelt
safe nebula
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I saw indeed

golden smelt
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I tested

safe nebula
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After buffs sure easy even

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But malak was surviving 4 min solo

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Frurbath could not

golden smelt
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Of course after buffs lol

safe nebula
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After buffs is easy though so many buffs

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Before it was so hard to make my tank survive even 4 min lol

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But malak can do it

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He is still not even scrolled

golden smelt
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Same, my Malak is not scrolled but does the job

safe nebula
empty saddle
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I have Malak am I better off using him over frurbath ?

safe nebula
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For talwer yes

empty saddle
golden smelt
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U should see my f2p team too

empty saddle
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Is that Ivellios ?

safe nebula
safe nebula
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Also dauntless leggo

golden smelt
empty saddle
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Ah I don’t have. Will have to go Malak Ivellios nimbus vani and Nathaniel

golden smelt
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I even use Schaltar and Shagrol tho melee is bad against Talwer. But thanks to the alliance buffs lol

dapper haven
sour oriole
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@golden smelt Got Phaessa or Rose? I think you can make another 15 team

safe nebula
golden smelt
sour oriole
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Meredith and Ardreth can both solo heal Alton,

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Garius with maybe traveler and those 3 dps should be able to deal with Journ

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Frost traveler*

golden smelt
safe nebula
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Also the other rare healer with def up 1

sour oriole
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Fair enough

safe nebula
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Forgor his name lol

sour oriole
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Quarion

safe nebula
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Yes he can solo heal too

sour oriole
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Ofc you forget rare heroes 😄

empty saddle
safe nebula
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I dont know if u mentioned it i hsve not seen it if u did

safe nebula
empty saddle
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Sorry don’t think I did. Continentals

safe nebula
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The 3 u can do most.dmg on

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U can only fight them once in continentals

sour oriole
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+1 more Talwer team not there

empty saddle
safe nebula
safe nebula
atomic vigil
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this is the first time im not able to beat stage 59 in pillar of taint and pillar of darkness 😦 Do you have any advice for me?

safe nebula
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Dont use more then 1 melee

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What heroes do u have

atomic vigil
golden smelt
dapper haven
sour oriole
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Yeah, couldnt do 22M on Chief challenge tho. With buffs a lot easier

safe nebula
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These were my continental teams

safe nebula
golden smelt
sour oriole
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Bling bling

safe nebula
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I m not f2p

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Or at least i wasnt i will be next season

golden smelt
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Fair enough lol

ebon thistle
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Ok, so current tempest challenge for me is bonus to derivative damage... Which troop types benefit the most from this? I tried burn, but that seemed like garbage.

empty saddle
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Malak needs how much resistance ? Chest and arms both hp% ?

golden smelt
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Plus the buff

safe nebula
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I didnt even put resistance on him.just gave him all def and hp lol

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He had 140k hp

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3.5k def i think

golden smelt
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Well, now u know any build on him works

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He can survive

atomic vigil
safe nebula
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Zharloth has amazing cc

sour oriole
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Ergander, Frurbath frontline, Voresh def down, Vinyara and Sigrid should do it. Can you show us the stage?

empty saddle
safe nebula
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This was mine but i had durugos jar so expect u to get more dmg

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I did all hp% and with def% substats

empty saddle
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Okay Thankyou

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Suggestion for artifact as I don’t have that one ?

safe nebula
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The blue def artifact was oke for me

golden smelt
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Use scarab amulet

safe nebula
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Forgot the name lol

golden smelt
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I think thats the name

sour oriole
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He meant the banner I think, but both will suffice

empty saddle
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Both runes hp main stat ?

golden smelt
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Ive never used the banner. But the banner requires ur ally to be near the wearer to activate the passive effect. But if its just the stats, then ure good

safe nebula
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Both are good

atomic vigil
safe nebula
golden smelt
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Oh really?

safe nebula
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That doesnt even matter u get full benefit

atomic vigil
golden smelt
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Because im stuck here too lol

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Oh wait, its different

safe nebula
golden smelt
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Its not fire/necro

safe nebula
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U see 25% def still

sour oriole
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@atomic vigil the team I posted should do the ice/psn pillar. You just have to manual it. For the 59 necro/light check Gorax's video on youtube

golden smelt
atomic vigil
empty saddle
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Lvl95 okay for my tawler team or a need 100 ?

golden smelt
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99 to 100 is too much exp pots

empty saddle
mystic mist
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Great advice lvl 95 is a good test spot then if you’re within a few million bringing them up may make the difference

copper silo
copper silo
safe nebula
empty saddle
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Got my team up to lvl 95. Malak Ivellios nimbus vani and Nathaniel. Which artifacts do they all need ?

Scarab for Malak
The rest ?

Arms and chest

Hp% both for Malak
Ivellios enlightenment and atk
Nimbus atk and c dmg ?
Vani ?
Nathaniel ?

To fight against continental talwer

sour oriole
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Nathaniel, enlightment and monelisse if needed. Vani, emperor with crit+crit dmg. Nimbus the same, and atk speed runes if possible. Make sure Vani ults before Nimbus

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and artifacts yeah... nathaniel the book with %shield if you have otherwise tiara with stronger shields. Ivellios - Legendary Fan, if you dont have that Ink is amazing. Nimbus with Witches Remains and enough accuracy and Vani with the Cup. I guess you dont have Fey Legendary from S2 yet.

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Just realized you need def down holder, in that case Nimbus

empty saddle
sour oriole
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No problem, also when it comes to affinity, last row isnt that strong for lightning/poison in boss battles

empty saddle
copper silo
sour oriole
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Mine was similiar, with Iola instead of Irina. I managed 22M

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Hows your gear?

copper silo
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Probably pretty mid. I need to find a replacement tank I think so I can use frubath later on in the poison boss. And I do have lola so that could be an easy switch

sour oriole
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Iola gives %atk aura and multihit ulti

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You can try Lydia instead of Frurbath

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I use her in my 2nd OW team

copper silo
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Thanks for the recommendation I’ll see if I have the resources to up her by end of week!

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I was able to take garrius and Catherine out of Alton fight to try and use them against journ and still got the 22m on Alton so that’s already a huge improvement

sour oriole
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For sure, Journ is hard

copper silo
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I’ve got 5 “teams” now. I’m just working on pots and some crystals

sour oriole
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Thats usually how it its, I have around 80 heroes lvl 90+

copper silo
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And I couldn’t clear fey on s1 I definitely haven’t done it on s2 yet lol

sour oriole
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Fey S1 was hard if you are not a spender, I managed Pillars but didnt bother with Fey. S2 is easier with more heroes

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But the artifact is amazing in S2

copper silo
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I am working on it at least. Also I know you mentioned ivellios but I don’t have him. I’ll have to sub a different dps

sour oriole
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Show me what you got

copper silo
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I need 100 light fluoride 52 lightning and 36 fire XD

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I have all the rares

sour oriole
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Yeah, use what you are using just swap in Iola instead of Irina. And if you wanna use Frurbath on Lossenia, then try with Lydia or Volthug, tho I think Lydia survives longer

copper silo
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Thanks. I’ll try Lydia she looks like she will help me in the tower things later on when I get to those as well

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I’ve got a team for each element now except posion thanks to all the help I’ve gotten from people in this community. I’m not even gonna plan that until next week

empty saddle
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Only 5.2m I guess it’s down to gear ?

snow ingot
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Gear, timing, positioning, psycicore

empty saddle
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What’s the ideal positioning and timing for this team ?

snow ingot
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So that only your tank gets taunted. Think tank Was up right. Rest down left so the dont get the mushroom taunt

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Think i did this continental challenge boss in s2 with my thunderbolt team

empty saddle
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Ah fair I only have manda hirvolm and shai’nachtan from thunderbolt

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Oh and aryasso the rare

snow ingot
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Found a screenshot from my first attemps xD

empty saddle
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I need a Lola

zinc nest
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This could work for positioning

copper silo
worn jasper
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Should I just make a subpar dauntless team? I have Malak to tank as an option. For S2 otherworldl

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My radiant team is also not great by any stretch. Any tips?

rose jetty
rose jetty
sand gust
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how do I get the key to unlock forge 2

woven kite
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Early s3, does anyone have lineup suggestions? Right now I’m trying karf, beags, araches, garius, and adolphus but am getting the same damage as sigrid, rava, usha, feenja, and elminster. Could be a gear issue as I don’t have ideal stats yet. No 5x elemental perks yet and another day for free hero resets

woven kite
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Should be field of burrows though

empty saddle
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Malak currently has 112 hp 2.2k def and 120 res

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Should I swap chest from hp% to res ?

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Would change to 95k hp 2.1k def 240 res

worn jasper
rose jetty
safe nebula
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For continentals and ow avoid melee dps as much as u can@worn jasper

rose jetty
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Except Hegio with his jump trick

safe nebula
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Yeah that goes for lothair and durango to vs lossenia

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And all heroes that can jump

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@rose jetty seems we will get all buffs for end boss

empty saddle
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Ivellios better in abyssal ?

safe nebula
empty saddle
safe nebula
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For bosses emperor set best

empty saddle
safe nebula
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U need stats too ofc

empty saddle
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Yeah that’s it my luck with gear drops isn’t great tbh

golden smelt
empty saddle
safe nebula
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<@&1024931953465626644>

wet wasp
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hi all, would love some suggestions for shai'nachtan chief challenge, the ones i have in red are being used for Irzillas, but could mix and match i guess

sour oriole
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Meggan tank, Ripekas, Questa, Adrie and Zharloth

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Make sure the last four got enough accuracy

safe nebula
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He has ghulende too

sour oriole
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Oh im blind, hmm maybe Ripekas tank and Ghulende in the backline then

safe nebula
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I had not seen him at first look either lol

sour oriole
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I used the above team anyway with 26M

safe nebula
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He has easynshainachtan team

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He can do more.then 1 team even

sour oriole
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Yeah for OW, this is chief challenge tho if I understood right

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But for OW, Id say even 3 teams are doable

safe nebula
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Should be easy 22m+

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Adrie could be wr

wet wasp
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yeah

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sorry for the screen, tried to fit all in one so i dont spam

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and yeah this is for the ardreth event

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would maybe bringing horrus up and switch quaesitia with him for irz be a good idea?

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and then use quaesitia for shai

safe nebula
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Horrus works.magnificently with adolp

sour oriole
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Thats an option honestly, think you gonna survive longer than honestly. Also you dont need both Adolphus and Estelle for Irzillas in my opinion

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Horrus and Adolphus should be enough

safe nebula
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Yes as long as horrus has shields irzillas is piece of cake

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Adolp.keep healing

wet wasp
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so if i add horrus with adolphus, take out estelle and add another dps for irz it should be enough

sour oriole
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Yes

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Gear Horrus with lots of HP, since shields scale of that

safe nebula
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I had horrus adolp and 3 dps

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Dont need more then 2 supports

wet wasp
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oh i see

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so i assume im adding estelle in the necro team as well

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these are the teams i used last week

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but ill check those ones u guys mentioned

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thank you

safe nebula
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Talwer u only need tank and 4 ranged dps

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Seems like u will have easy 15 teams

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If u have the pots and crystals for ypur heroes

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U have one more week to go?@wet wasp

wet wasp
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I think 2 weeks, we are at the 3rd week

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Do you survive the full 5 minutes on talwer?

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With that tank?

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@safe nebula

safe nebula
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About 4 min because he is unscrolled

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If he was scrolled easy 5min i think but i had other heroes to scroll

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He is best tank for talwer

wet wasp
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He is able to sustain himself the whole time?

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I have lots of scrolls, so i could also get him up

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Frees up oggok ans zefi for the poison team

safe nebula
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Upto 4 min yes but i had durangos jar on him

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I m almost certain if scrolled he can go full 5min

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But because i have not scrolled it to test i cant guarentee he can lol

wet wasp
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Ive been meaning to get that arti for pvp

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Now i have more reasons to do so haha

sour oriole
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You just need oggok for poison, no need Zeffi

wet wasp
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I have no other place for her xD

sour oriole
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Bench 😄

wet wasp
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Hahaha she has been so good to me thoughh

safe nebula
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U have better options lol

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Zeffi only place vortex😂😋

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U can probably get 100m+ out of your talwer team

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Adding in caspar will increase your irzillas team.too

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How are.you positiond for journ

wet wasp
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Ill try the same team u have for talwar

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Lemme check the positioning for journ

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I dont have a proper tank for him

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Though i did the calculations, if i finish 4/5 matches this week i can get ardreth and add her in journ's team

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@safe nebula

snow ingot
wet wasp
snow ingot
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XD

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With hegio you can use the jump strategy. Means, only your tank gets hit by journs ult and battleskill

safe nebula
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Who will he even replace for hegio

wet wasp
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But ill still have ardreth for journ this week, so it should be fine

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Just need to do the other 4 first

snow ingot
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Was my s2 team in 1st week

wet wasp
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I dislike how rng alton is haha

safe nebula
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Vs alton put your heroes to the sides

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For yourn let.him hit your 2 support heroes

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And time.everything before his ult

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At least that is what i did

wet wasp
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Could you please show me how it would be? For alton

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For journ i posted the positions i have, but last week i didnt have any mele tank so i had to settle with journ hitting 3

wet wasp
brave meteor
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boys any ideas on how to beat FEY MEANDER 180? Stratwise

balmy compass
brave meteor
zinc nest
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Berengar + ZharlLoth

brave meteor
zinc nest
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It's Necro lighting, the affinity. Right?

brave meteor
zinc nest
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How about
Ripekas stun set (frontliner, middle. Knock up most enemies)
Voresh (stun set, def down user or high skill haste)
Megan ( high skill haste, Candle artifact if possible)
Auster (damage raw DPS)
Rava (stun set, frozen enabler, maybe def down user)

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Auster can use stun set as well if needed. While having DPS stats and some acc..

zinc nest
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Can also use Radiance.
Tamar + Donella+ Acillia/garius + Lorenthel + Wellby

static swan
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Aaa

balmy compass
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Could try also Ergander stun set, Twitch stun set + witch, Journ full haste/DMG, Sigrid stun set accu/DMG and Heck heal set

brave meteor
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@balmy compass @zinc nest appreciate the time and the tips will try all of them

neat berry
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Will this work for venon 9?

bright coyote
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Hello my darlings! I love this game, but i really sucks at making comps haha, I really like playing vortex, boss contents and everything else, but i always stuck at doing damage and clearing hardest things 😦
Could i get some advises for what i could build for S4 with what i have? (dont need to be only one team) I only have staff as a legendary artifact, if i could get some builds with mono element or good sinergy with next elements on S4, i would be really happy! Many thanks and i wish an awesome week for everyone ❤️

safe nebula
bright coyote
safe nebula
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Fire poison might be the best way for u

bright coyote
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mostly of my leg i got in season 3 haha, thats pretty sad 😦

safe nebula
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I assume u know about each banner being at 35 pity

bright coyote
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Yeah, been playing since day one everyday haha, all i got at 35 pity every fk time haha

fast ibex
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Hi feel I should know this but on vortex what are the timings I need to work towards for higher scores

strange fox
worn jasper
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@safe nebula
@rose jetty

Thanks for the tips. Got a lot better scores on both yesterday. Although I may need to fix hegios positioning? He didn't jump anywhere helpful.

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S2 otherworldly.
I'm working on fire today. Got 15.6 Mil yesterday with this team. Anything else I can do?

rose jetty
worn jasper
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Ahhhhhh okay thanks.

wintry spear
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Wow

rose jetty
copper silo
# neat berry Will this work for venon 9?

I definitely think it could! That fire dps you have is so strong. I saw a video by oddonegaming where he 3 mans irzillas with her meggan and that dark tank quesetia(spelling?)

copper silo
rose jetty
wise zodiac
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S1 player here, can I get some help on forming a team from these guys? The reset thing just ended today so I wanna know which guys are worth upgrading and forming a team with thanks. Mainly looking at long term strong heroes

mental thunder
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that's a very interesting sorting method mr bear

real meadow
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I'm trying to make a team based around Lossenia and Auster to plow through what's left of my fey before new season hits. Any suggestions? I'm on floor 162.

sage chasm
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Who should I be building? I am early game with trying not to waste resources too much

sage chasm
jovial ermine
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Loren is must have in rally team. Boost all Rally dmg, give them rally buff and boost ultimate skill time. And huberg big dps

sage chasm
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OK, any others I should be building alongside them?

mental thunder
real meadow
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Awesome, thanks

mental thunder
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Can maybe build one of the trashy epic orc tanks but bleh. Garius pro strats there

mental thunder
real meadow
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Wait, so do I bring Voresh or Zharloth?

mental thunder
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Both

real meadow
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So I don't bring vid?

mental thunder
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Maybe drop auster and use vidimir

real meadow
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Oh okay

mental thunder
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Dont underestimate

real meadow
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Old man gang gang

mental thunder
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He is a monster

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Can even put him on stun set too

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All of then 100% crit, 300 acc before affinity, as much attack as possible and then ripelkas is pure defense, accuracy and resist

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I beat fey s2 with voresh, rava, vidimir (stun sets), frurbath, garius i believe so i wasnt even on affinity 5

real meadow
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Ah so it's a gearing issue

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I'm getting McClown'd on over here

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My gear rng is trash, I doubt I have that much acc gear

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Esp. on stun sets, I hate doing rot

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Who designed these stages, honestly. I just wanna talk.

copper silo
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Still having a hard time getting good damage against irzillas

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Thanks to those free compensation dice as long as I can get 11mill on most of them and 22 on alto I should get enough pieces though right?

lunar fable
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You will need to do a few summons to get enough pieces. Maybe 20 dice or some dragon eggs

copper silo
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I got all the pieces from the summons lol

mental thunder
copper silo
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I can’t even guarantee 11 mill on all of them. If I do manage enough shards it will be just barely

mental thunder
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Plenty of videos and suggestions on lineups out there for s2. I wasnt the strongest in s2 and 60 summons + my scores and i had excess like 40 currency after ardreth

cedar crescent
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Well. Cant pass lvl 178 in labirynth☺️

copper silo
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I have 0 pieces of emperors gear for a dps. All my damage stuff is inventory or gambler

cedar crescent
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Help fey meander lvl180 spider s3

zinc nest
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Yes

strange fox
strange fox
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Hello guys, is there some recommended approach to Grishnaar+Torrin couple? Like i have tried Aschetius, didnt work really.
And then Garius with Sigrid, Voresh and Questa.
Can you help me?

keen smelt
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Any advice ?

midnight plinth
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Need help for this stage please....

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These r my heroes

lime wasp
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What's the issue? Are you dying? Timing out? Which wave? What's the current lineup you're using?

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And what are the lego artifacts that you've got?

mental thunder
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How dare you ask for more information sfb

midnight plinth
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For this Poison/Lightning always dead after they ult
And seems like Ergander cannot hold much damage even with Turtle artifact and even if Ergander survive, my back line crushed easily because of Iola

mental thunder
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Easy just put frurb up front with ergander and ditch vicuc, move nathaniel up close to them so frurb and nath both heal all 3

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And voila, you use same team i did to beat it s2.

midnight plinth
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For this one
If I manage to reach last wave in time (around 3 minutes left), I dont have much damage output for its heal AND survive
If I put more healer support, I dont have enough damage to reach boss in time and always lose time

mental thunder
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Stun set on iola

mental thunder
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I used gerthin and NORD to beat 60

lime wasp
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Mrow putting me out of a job.
I do the pre-work with asking for info.
You do the advice

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Share the Google giftcard you're getting for your help!

mental thunder
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If only

midnight plinth
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Thanks for your input..
Time to kill more goblin 😮‍💨
And sorry for the gift card but i am too poor to do that 🥺
I just rely on my luck in this game 😶‍🌫

mental thunder
twin pilot
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can i make a better temportal vortex team? right now im using garius philto alton mith lorentheel

formal leaf
#

Curious about what happens to Fey Meander and Pillar in each new season? I got the Season 3 Epic for Pilar, i am currently on floor 24 for Fey Meander (would also like some advice on what is a solid team to go all the way to 60 within the remaining time). so they reset with new epics as rewards?

Another thing i want to ask is, i will end up with 2400 of that end of season currency and i dont have Utioh, Ardreth and the new Ice legendary for the chief challenge, should i just save that currency and plan for the S4 store?

cursive jewel
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Is this chat for fey tips as well

compact barn
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What are y’all’s thoughts for Garrett?

cursive jewel
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Here's my season 1 lineup have all 3 recommended Lego artifacts if that helps trying to get past fey 135

compact barn
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What are y’all’s thoughts with builds? I have 10 more summons to get the 80, then I’m chillin for the rest of the month

prisma tendon
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Fey 175 ideas?

mental thunder
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separate the frurbs and rips, bring resist 400 tanks

wise zodiac
mental thunder
wise zodiac
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O ok

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Uh how do i do that

mental thunder
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inside team menu just click the helmet and then at top filter by the affinities at the bottom of the dropdown

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should say poison + fire, lightning + radiance, etc

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3 pics, easy peasy

wise zodiac
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Ah ok gotcha thanks

mental thunder
#

so you are almost a week in?

wise zodiac
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Yea just past a week

mental thunder
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still pretty early but you have garius which is huge

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you only have 3 affinity at the moment so dont worry about having pure 5/5 affinity teams for things like dungeons and for progression

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garius up front, sigrid in the back... ripelkas for debuffs

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leaves you with 2 slots; can bring heksandra for extra heals and letalis for more aoe debuffs or you can go dorkruz + rowena for frost aoe damage

wise zodiac
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Ok thanks a lot

mental thunder
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ideally you'd want to use the $1 epic chest to grab either voresh, frurbath, adolphus or zharloth epics.... but like my guide mentions, save that til end of week 2 at least

wise zodiac
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Yea but I dont plan on spending money on the game haha

mental thunder
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but from that team you can make a venom and goblin team as well

wise zodiac
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Ive read the guide

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Still got my rare chest unpopped

mental thunder
#

you can safely grab usha from that

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then you can make an easy goblin team - usha, sigrid, letalis, dorkruz, rowena

wise zodiac
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Alrighty thanks a lot

mental thunder
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later on if you get lucky, you can start worrying over 5/5 affinity but doesnt really matter until week like 5

twin pilot
mental thunder
# twin pilot any tips on formign a better team? would appreciate it

you missing key units. if you arent using rook in s3, best you can do is ice blast. for you, gerthin + frurb + felosia...... i dont see bleddyn and i assume you have nord. bleddyn + nord + gerthin would be fine; or if you dont have bleddyn you can bring some multi hit ult unit with defense down arti instead....... but you missing key units here. i dont see schaltar but assume you have him, but no zeffi/oggok to run immortal dauntless, and necro sucks the life out of dauntless vortex s3... you could run aura but you wont be doing more than 50m midseason, which is laughably top 200 with all the rook and iceblast enjoyers.

twin pilot
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i just wont bother then i'll spend when there's a rook banner

snow ingot
twin pilot
twin pilot
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maybe i'll try that team

snow ingot
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Yea, ib is still good. Just dont look on the rook/flora teams on vortex xD

twin pilot
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😭 hahaha

snow ingot
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I dont have any exclusive from s3 and no bleddyn. So i know hiw it feels xD

twin pilot
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how do i know what are exclusives from the gallery?

snow ingot
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Did ib too until i got lorentheel. Now um using rally xD

twin pilot
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oh is rally better though?

snow ingot
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All with exklusive artifacts

twin pilot
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im doing rally now.

snow ingot
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Dont know why but my rally team does 25m more xD

twin pilot
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haha wow

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shinnah good?

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i can pull for her next banner

snow ingot
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Best enabler for ib

twin pilot
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who wouldiswap on that team?

snow ingot
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Nord

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Frur feli gerthin bleddyn shinnah

twin pilot
mental thunder
twin pilot
snow ingot
mental thunder
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that's called luck

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i've done 70 dice on two different banners and got dupes. and i only had 3/8 of the listed legos on the banner. still got a dupe

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and went to pity both times

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so unless you prepared to pull for 20x pull bonus and guarantee your selected unit, dont

snow ingot
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Ok, then im blessed with luck. Ill take it xD

elder swift
#

Who could be good supports for S4 IB vortex if I don't have Felosia? Feenja + Aladiah? Or Feenja + Ghul'ende? Gladros?

patent harness
#

Chief challenge ends in a few days and I really can't seem to get my lightning team to 11M. I think my setup is fien but I'm not sure.. any tips guys?

snow ingot
copper silo
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What’s your position look like to start with? @patent harness

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They all look too close to the boss

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This is the positioning I used for it. I just can’t show you with my units bc I did my attempt already this week

mental thunder
# copper silo This is the positioning I used for it. I just can’t show you with my units bc I ...

I used frurbath and nathaniel for this guy; position frurb bottom front corner and nathaniel right behind him 1 tile away. What will happen is in that positioning, frurb steps forward 1 tile, giving them 2 tiles of separation (allowing nath to avoid ult damage from boss and taunts most of the time)… but both of their regens will still heal each other 🙂 that allows you to position your other units back corner other side and not worry about them

fiery barn
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What is the best team I can make out of this crazyness?

copper silo
real meadow
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@fiery barn youve got Garius and Acilia so that's your radiant tankers taken care of. You also have Wellby, Hegio, and Lorentheel from the looks of it. That's Rally right there. Just gear em the best you can and add a healer or something, you don't gotta worry about affinity from the looks of it.

fiery barn
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lone wedge
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can someone tell me how to kill the child of chaos i tried everything and nothing works

rose jetty
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Does emperor set works in Mekka boss or should I switch to Invetor for more crit rate ?

near canopy
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How to set timing have any ideas give me

safe nebula
safe nebula
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Because they have low stats

boreal quartz
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@lone wedge i used frubath, sigrid, hek, eric, tohalan
u will need to manual to last boss and use ur ult on the hand that traps ur tank

ocean cipher
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Hi, garius or furbath from the epic chest?

mental thunder
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i have sagomir

mental thunder
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Did someone manage to get more then 50m dmg on the continental challenge nekro boss without ozul? XD
if so, with what team

delicate pecan
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For continental challenge S3, what's my best option for damage in radiance? Does one leggo make aura worth it or is rally still somehow better with no leggo against a boss that can remove rally?

mental thunder
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Adolphus, ardreth, tathlyn, wellby, hegio / diantha, careth, aura archer elf girl whose name i forget

delicate pecan
ocean cipher
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nedd help build a team for goblin, im on goblin 5 now but can only clear it with 2 stars. whats the best recommended team from my heroes?

mental thunder
snow ingot
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Liko, victors little sister xD

delicate pecan
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Journ has the chest piece that dispels a buff when applying a debuff

snow ingot
elder swift
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I got all the Corrosions other than Whisk (got Rook without his exclusive), is there any reason to use Sacredela for Vortex? Or are Gegnu + Daro still better?

mental thunder
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If gegnu is more dps than sacredia then there you go but idk answer

elder swift
mental thunder
ocean cipher
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yep

mental thunder
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Nice

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But lothair is a hard no go for you

ocean cipher
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really i thought he is the best

mental thunder
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Perfect example of “pull an exclusive and cant use it bc no team/artifacts”

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Need corrin, hourglass and runes with 34 has on them total

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And ideally durango or twitch legos

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Plus need frurbath and a support like oggok or reytah

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He is super needy

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Basically unusable for a nonwhale

ocean cipher
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😦

mental thunder
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And before you are farming ancient battlefield and heretical ruins

ocean cipher
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i can get frurbath i have the chest but i doubt it will fix it

mental thunder
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He is just unusable without hourglass lego arti and that isnt even your first lego artifact lol

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It is arguably second or third

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He is a reset and dont bother

ocean cipher
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can you explain me in short why he is unusable?

mental thunder
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Fantastic potential but not unless you have all the pieces

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I can when im not driving my car lol, gimme 10 min

ocean cipher
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lol oc dont do that

snow ingot
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You need corrin with enough haste that he gets a 14.9sec Rotation that your poison stacks dont fall off (100haste from hourglas + 40 from 2 2set and runes 36/37 at least). Lothair needs 40 stacks of poison at all times.
Then you need twitch or durango to Apple as fast as possible and as much psn stacks+witches

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And ofc, his excl. artifact to boost his dmg even more xD

mental thunder
# ocean cipher can you explain me in short why he is unusable?

ok so as someone who has lothair and used him since s2 in vortex he needs the following requirements to actually do anything:
40 stacks of poison - achievable by having 2 poison appliers, but one of them has to be corrin (epic) with 74 haste and +20 hourglass legendary artifact... in order to get him up to the speed needed to cycle his ult fast enough to keep resetting poison durations in order to allow those stacks to be permanently applied... doing that allows lothair to ult and do max derivative damage (his passive is unique of any unit).
second poison applier can be eli because his ult is multi hit so he can apply defense down... but this means witch remains legendary artifact since that is a priority with your first legendary duplicate pull. you buy hourglass 2nd or 3rd (behind gatekeeper staff if you use garius)... but ideally the second poison applier should be durango or twitch, as they deal excellent damage themselves and apply more poison - meaning faster 40 stacks for more damage sooner.

lothair also ideally needs derivative damage bonus set with 300+ enlightenment and 5000+ attack using ink pot artifact if you do not have serpent deity statue (yet another legendary artifact that requires a poison duplicate)

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which means you need the stars to align to give you 2-3 legendary dupes... not to mention you need legitimate supports for him to shine. s1 that means frurbath/khrysos tank with adolphus/oggok support... and with frurbath you want horn (yet ANOTHER legendary artifact)...

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lothair is NOT an exclusive that anyone can just plug and play. he needs huge team surrounding him and legit gear, artifacts, etc. as a lowspending s1 player, you should reset his xp and straight up ignore him. he's basically useless to you at the moment. fantastic unit! useless to you right now

snow ingot
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Whole lothair guide written in minutes 😄

ocean cipher
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so he is unusable or for what i have now he is good?

mental thunder
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eh

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issue is early game you dont have the gear to make him a crit build with accuracy so he self enables and does "okay" damage during progression or goblins

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he's a long fight unit, and he's a melee

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so basically makes him unusable for various content where melee is bad, and most battles are very short. he is okay in arena, but you dont need to level him for that.

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you can use him in goblins as your up front unit, but you'd be wasting xp on a unit being used ONLY for goblins

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he's not going to help you anywhere else in pve like domains or gear dungeons, and in s1 you wont use him vs chiefs and otherworld

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he's basically a week 5+ vortex only unit in pve

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IF you have the items and units to support it

ocean cipher
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ok , and from the heroes i have what teams are best for goblin and vortex assuming lothair is not in

mental thunder
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sagomir, sigrid, iola, dench, letalis = goblin team
horrus, sagomir, meggan, sigrid, iola = venom team (horrus main tank, sagomir offtank... and you place them on the field in this order: sagomir > horrus) positioning is horrus up front center, sagomir up front just below him... meggan top front, sigrid straight back from horrus at the back row and iola right directly in front of her... so both are targeting boss with their basic attacks.

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there is no vortex team there yet frankly, but you can use your venom team for now just to get on the board

ocean cipher
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im trying to understand the logic of the comp, cause from tier lists this comp is not that good. but i see that your so experienced and knowledgeable so you know what your saying

mental thunder
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sagomir is amazing in arena and he can be useful in pve. i picked him because he is a tanky melee with a little self healing, and you need 1 of those for goblins. you have no usha and frost units yet so sagomir is your best bet

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and dude... no one has a good tier list. such a thing doesnt even really make any sense in this game when it is entirely team composition dependent. rares can be awesome if you have the right team. tier lists are super useless here

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not to mention depending on the tier list source, it could be completely bonkers garbage lol

ocean cipher
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ok got it, so who is doing the damage sigrid?

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and no use for torrin?

snow ingot
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You asked primary for goblin. There you need fast dmg to clear waves

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Thats why he recomended sigrid as dps and the others in the comp as tank/semitank/debuffers to make sigrids ult hit all debuffed targets

ocean cipher
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Like he said, its all about team comp. Torrin is very good for himself and in the right Team. But you just started and your roster is very small.

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Therefore he told you the actual best comps for you right now 😀

ocean cipher
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he is very good as well, where can i use him

ocean cipher
snow ingot
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Grave of rot, heretical Ruins and endgame

ocean cipher
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ok thanks

snow ingot
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Best is, look at the Boss skills and then try to Cover them with your roster

ocean cipher
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what is the most important in the first days? gear or goblin?

snow ingot
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Goblin and Domains to lvl up.

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And you need a bare minimum on gear

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Gear farming starts with continental challenge -> double drop rates

ocean cipher
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im already 70 in 4 heroes and thats my top possible for few days

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continental challenge?

snow ingot
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1st month = lvling, questing, understanding the game

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2nd month starts the continental challenge

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With double drop rates

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World bosses

ocean cipher
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thats the game order? are these like open after 1 month?

snow ingot
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There you need 3 4 5 6 teams of each element

ocean cipher
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i played the game for like 3 months , 8 months ago

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and i cant remember

snow ingot
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And 3rd month is endgame. Same bosses but up to 15 teams and after that endboss with 6 teams

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So month 1 = lvl as much you can (and need -> Youtube had good guides. Gorax, oddonegaming, stew ...) and Farm some gear to get as far in dungeons as possible

mental thunder
# ocean cipher and no use for torrin?

s1 necro/ice is not super strong for vortex but is good for things like goblins and other bosses... torrin being the best healer available in the affinity. but you dont have the heroes to do anything with that affinity, so i wouldnt bother

ocean cipher
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ok im trying your venom team now

mental thunder
# ocean cipher what is the most important in the first days? gear or goblin?

gear you should not be spending bread on at all until you are farming the max level dungeons. you build your teams to accomplish that and then outfit them in decent epic gear without spending bread for stamina.. then progress to legendary gear until you can farm the dungeons you need on auto. by that point you should have better roster so you can do more efficient farming.

mental thunder
ocean cipher
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Aaah ok, forgott about that. Have no s1 acc xD

mental thunder
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still means shouldnt be burning bread on anything but lego gear lol

mental thunder
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just progress through story areas until you hit a blocker then address the needs with levels or gear with daily free stamina

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and not leveling 100 units, only the bare minimum to progress naturally

ocean cipher
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but i need to level more than 5 right? cause the reset will end in few days

mental thunder
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well yes, probably need about 12-14 units at level 70 by the end of that first week, then reset them all and look at roster again and decide which to level up going forward. by the end of 1 week you'll have more units than you do now to choose from, potentially better teams

ocean cipher
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ok got it

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thanks alot

mental thunder
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👍

mental thunder
ocean cipher
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for a week 🙂

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place them like that? @mental thunder

mental thunder
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sagomir ahead 1 so he's right at the front

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that will force the bottom orb to target him not horrus

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which takes the pressure off horrus

ocean cipher
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i saw somewhere that the upper harpy is targeting the lowest hp?

mental thunder
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top orb targets the lowest hp unit on the field which is prob sigrid or meggan

ocean cipher
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yeah its magan

mental thunder
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which is ideal

ocean cipher
mental thunder
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iola holds defense down artifact (crown for now until your first lego dupe)

ocean cipher
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i think i need to raise them all to 70 before i can clear this stage

ocean cipher
mental thunder
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well, when she is 70 lol

ocean cipher
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can buy 2 more artifacts if needed @mental thunder

snow ingot
mental thunder
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no rook, who cares

snow ingot
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Yea, i dont care too. Dont have him so tryna compeete with other no-rooks xD

mental thunder
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ice blast going to step back a little due to necro affinity in s4, so wild might be the way to go

snow ingot
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With flora yes

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Now im using rally, was surprised that rally beat my ib team by so much xD

mental thunder
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my lothair team sucked in vortex today what the hell

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who cares last day of season lol

ocean cipher
mental thunder
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usually i go 8 minutes or so and over 80m this week

snow ingot
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No feliosa?

mental thunder
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nope

snow ingot
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Ah damn

ocean cipher
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if yo need to assemble a vortex team from my heroes who would you go with? i do need to do vortex even if its not high

mental thunder
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just use venom team but bring torrin instead of sagomir

ocean cipher
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ok

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ocean cipher
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venom without lothair?

mental thunder
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lothair gets reset and ignore

ocean cipher
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lol damn

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what aura to choose? @mental thunder

mental thunder
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attack

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unless your horrus is dying too quick then hp

ocean cipher
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ok

ocean cipher
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but i need everyone on 70 for stage 4. at least

ancient dew
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shagrol or nimbus for vortex?

snow ingot
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@mental thunder nice. Didnt thought it would work this good. We got dauntless week on vortex. Also no excl artifact and durango not scrolled 🙈

mental thunder
# snow ingot <@187267816099938306> nice. Didnt thought it would work this good. We got dauntl...

very nice indeed 🙂 my issue is that no felosia + lothair team is essentially not usable in vortex before you farm lego gear and are able to +20 artifacts... so effectively not until at least week 3, and even then in current QOL you dont want to burn bread early season til double drops. if we ever get double drops all the time, that changes things... but even still, first week of vortex effectively crap, plus lothair isnt great anywhere else in pve unless you have legit gear and can speedrun things like AB9... but that usually means inspirations and artifacts. not really achievable first couple weeks of season, so he ends up being a mid season build

snow ingot
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Yes, hes like every psn team more of an mid/endgame choice.

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Sadly, the exp limitation makes it impossible to play around with teams before endgame. Missing the thing from other gatchas where you are able to put lvl1 heroes in to be max lvl

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And i recogniced, the queens fan arti is really good because on vortex its always max dmg boost. Didnt know before 😮

ocean cipher
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guys if i try a team in vortex and quite before im wiped can i re try?

mental thunder
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yes as long as you dont save

ocean cipher
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just quite before the fight ends when i die?

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i mean right before i die

safe nebula
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As long as u dont save

ocean cipher
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ok thanks

safe nebula
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U can try all day every day

mental thunder
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day 4 of playing s1 with no actual vortex team to speak of that would be the biggest waste of time i've heard of in awhile

safe nebula
mental thunder
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lol

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trying to squeeze blood from a stone

safe nebula
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Every bit helps right😂

mental thunder
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each one of those 5-8 minute runs is time you cant get back in your life

safe nebula
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With 10x less of a time waster

mental thunder
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you can do 10x the wasted runs!

safe nebula
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50 sec to 80 sec lol

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Vortex 1 can last 20m so even longer fights

mental thunder
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1 billion score.... didnt count for ranking at all bc it was vortex 1 and i ended up 300-400 points behind rank 50 dude

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so i missed 1 day, vortex defaults you to vortex 1 on entry next day... did vortex 1 not paying attention and saved it. 2 days missed vortex = just enough to fail

zinc nest
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Hey, you were so proud of reaching 999 stacks..

safe nebula
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I would be so pissed at myself

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Lol

steady wraith
tight glen
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S2. For a mekkatorque burn team, which 3 of these 4 heroes would be best, Percival/Araces/Beags/Durem? I'm leaning towards the latter 3. And what ult order? Any tips?

snow ingot
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Ara beags durem
beags > durem > ara

proud quail
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any sweats got any general advice for making 15 22m comps for chaos shadows? my rank has been roughly constant all season (s3), but the boss opens in a few days and it's starting to slide and I think it's bc I only have 6 22m comps

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like are there some go-to epic/rare dps champs that can make the 22m happen?

lunar fable
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Some ideas. 22mil-50mil each for chaos shadows or endboss.

copper silo
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So the traveler never gets used after s1 xD ?

lunar fable
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I used traveler in s1 and s2 but didn't really need to in s2. Did not build traveler in s3 at all.

copper silo
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I haven’t built it in s2 so far at all. I wasted plenty of resources on other units though that ended up not working out though

proud quail
lunar fable
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Muffinman has super low ult time so he's perfect for witches/crown to debuff for sigrid.

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That was a 22mil-25mil team depending on rng each day.

lunar fable
lunar fable
proud quail
burnt wraith
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Hi guys, i have started S1 and i would like to optimize my dauntless team for vortex. I use Tharivol with witch atm. I don‘t have Acilia or Sagomir. Do you have an idea how to improve the team comp?

safe nebula
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Gear can improve and artis

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Lamp for nastjenka