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[golden smelt]

I guess i'll go with fire/necro first

Thanks!

[balmy compass]

The necro one is really accessible

[golden smelt]

I believe i have the right heroes for it, Meggan, Kyrza, Questa, Adrie, Estella/Adolphus/Gladros/Zharloth. All scrolled but cant get to 22m. I think im lacking on the damage from affinity and gears

[balmy compass]

If possible, try to use only ranged

except the tank of course

I rememberone of my teams was Edgar, Thia, Zarloh, Deverick and Adrie i think

Now with the new Estella, i think you can use Questa in tank

[golden smelt]

Yeah i have Thia and Deverick but they are not scrolled

Oh right, i havent tested Questa as a tank. Maybe i can replace Meggan with another dps

[balmy compass]

So maybe Questa, Adrie, Estella, Gladros, and another one depending on what you need, DPS or survive

[golden smelt]

Alright, thanks for the tips!

[balmy compass]

😉

[honest falcon]

What do I need to get corrosion running? I pulled rook, once. No exclusive arti, no whisk. Can I make it work?

[tepid saffron]

Does anyone know when the anniversary is?

[fleet sail]

probably. gegnu, dargo, and an epic artifact should still handily beat most people at vortex lol

[plush thicket]

You have it correct, Gegnu, Dargo. Gegnu with Witch usually.

[plush thicket]

Be warned, it really doesnt do great damage until post 90 and t4 gear.

[honest falcon]

Just started s3, any advice what team to run? Thinking IB or sigrid voresh

I pulled rook, ozul, lincos, Victor, and stanguem

[safe nebula]

If u have rook😂u run rook

[winter glen]

Could I get some advise on a good temporal vortex team to use with my current roster of heroes?

[onyx lintel]

sure

Post here

[winter glen]

Okay any help is appreciated

[round wagon]

I'll just say this off cuff, build Questa. You won't regret it.

[winter glen]

Ah what is she mainly use for?

[round wagon]

Looks like you got a fire/poison team to run.

[honest falcon]

I was planning to, but was thinking he shines mid to late game. Is it a good idea to start running him day 1? Also got another dupe so I can prolly get he's exclusive

[round wagon]

Dane, Sigrid, Horrus, Tannahon and Heksandra.

[round wagon]

She can attack the back row.

[winter glen]

Ah okay

[round wagon]

If you are into the timers, Make sure Dane fires his ult before Sigrid.

[winter glen]

Haven't tried timers yet but hopefully soon

[safe nebula]

Yeah early on not as good indeed he needs the lvls and gear

[round wagon]

If you get Furbrath, he can replace Horrus. Furbrath also debuffs units and heals.

[winter glen]

who is tannahon cant seem to find them

[glacial mesa]

I have starter s2 today, affinities are all new, which one should I start with? Which is best to start s2?

Also got few new heroes from premium summons, wanna try them

[round wagon]

The fire lizard.

[glacial mesa]

I think itd Tonalnal

[round wagon]

It's a terrible name.. lol. The thunder lizards is even worse.

[winter glen]

fire lizard was so easy to find always bad at names no matter what gacha game it is

[glacial mesa]

Is any of these heroes Worth investing?

[round wagon]

Congrats for making it to season 2. Not there yet, so I got nothing.

[onyx lintel]

bangin early roster, build Oggok Tonalnan Nedda Journ and Caraman for Vortex rn

[round wagon]

Oh. Ignore the ice horse though... So dissapointing.

[stone dagger]

Build Ice blast team. Shinnah + Bleddyn + Nord.

[tall vigil]

Does anyone know the skill timing for oggok in vortex Max skill lvl

[glacial mesa]

Was just thinking about, gonna start like that. Thanks!

[safe nebula]

With zeffi?

[tall vigil]

No zeffi

[tight glen]

(S2 -Got all rares) Can anyone help me beat Ancient 9? Feels like every guide uses Frurbath & Adolp, which I don't have..

[neat dagger]

What is the name of these fights?

[fleet sail]

tower defense. Only exists in season 1.

[neat dagger]

Is there a map for those? I think i missed some cause i wasn’t strong enaught at that time

And i can’t find them

[honest falcon]

Any replacement for whisk on corr team? Already using dargo but don't have whisk.

[fleet sail]

gegnu

[honest falcon]

Damn I don't have him, hopefully I get him. Gegnu and caraman the only 2 epic I don't have

Is ozul any good?

[stark thunder]

For the OW boss, should I choose Casper or Errich? I need to scroll one, but I'm unsure who is better..

[ocean prairie]

Any Recom for Curse 9 at S3

I try recommend lineup like this, earlier work fine but idk why when at middle run the boss dont have any buff can 1 hit die my team, and sometimes voresh didnt dispel the buff when the boss ulti

[worn jasper]

Season 2. Looking to conquer venom 9.
Currently using garius, Sig, oggok, Dane, elminster. Thoughts?

[mental thunder]

you have shinnah. that means ice blast is yours, take it. gerthin, bleddyn, shinnah, garius + felosia > rose > whatever other good support you have

[worn jasper]

Thanks. Just got gerthin today. Will max her now and give that a go, try a few supports.

[mental thunder]

nord + shinnah + gerthin then

garius + support

there's your vortex and your light pillar team

can even use ice main character if you have no shielder at all and no good supports

[worn jasper]

Garius melting on second aoe. I guess I'll need to go farm some curse to get him geared better.

[quiet oracle]

Any chance someone could share their skill timings for Chaos Shadow: Fire (increased poison damage) for continental boss?
I changed team member and it lost the skill timings, I remember it being like 3x.5 or something, but wanted to get 2 casts per round. Just timing for when the dragons come out

[onyx lintel]

Brute force is 34.5... just ignoring the dragonlings

[quiet oracle]

Thank you

Just seemed to need a shield to be able to ignore them!

[mint plover]

Is it better to have a balanced in levels with your team or focus on one hero?

[onyx lintel]

General rule is tank first

I usually tank first, then will either make my best healer/support or best dps depending on needs

For most people, after the reset event you wanna make sure you have a solid gobbo team

[mint plover]

Okay, thanks

[torn badger]

worth it or use for my 1st lego art

[light seal]

help me build Grave of Venom team for dungeon 11-12

[real meadow]

Lego arti is almost always more useful than an inspo unless you're whaling hard. Get you some witches remains and enjoy the ride

[torn badger]

is that best for me rn with having fur

[quiet oracle]

Scraped a 22 mill, thank you!

[onyx lintel]

Get it, gj

[open dagger]

I have 5 tokens to spend..none can buy elemental specific artifacts. Any recommendations?

I was thinking the needles for sure but open to suggestions

[real meadow]

Id say blast jar for a tank, aurelium vest, and puppet. Those all seem like meta picks

[onyx lintel]

Show your roster... it depends. Why not elementals?

Needles is just eh

Needles is massive rng and only good for enabling like Nissa, Perkunte, Vicana etc

If it doesn't proc it's basically useless

[steel shale]

Another day another struggling 😂 I’m coming closer to 200, now at 192 in Fey and this team is too annoying, could anyone help with the line up plz

[dapper haven]

Fey has 200 stage?

Is it that s1 update

[steel shale]

Aye 200 for Fey Meander and 48 for Labyrinth of curiosity

[plush thicket]

I'm not kidding. They are basically magic for this fight.

[plush thicket]

Lego arti. Get witch, from what I remember of your unlocks

[plush thicket]

Drugos requires accuracy
Orb is bad
Needles is more for pvp
Mask is more for pvp
Belt used to be good for Dauntless but now its meh
Torc is good if you're still using music box somewhere
Puppet is a pvp strat for characters like Sigrid but tbh, isn't a top tier strat
Amulet is a strat vs Elecebre teams in pvp
Parasol is a strat for Vortex, Mekka, etc. Not top tier but can fix a squad
Vest is AMAZING and BIS on Felosia, Great on Khrysos, but other Enl shielders the Elmo arti is king, and its an opinion based thing on tiara vs vest on other enl shielders
Iron maiden is a pvp strat on tanks and works very well.
Camel bells is AWESOME. Get these. Big ulti heal Enl healers this makes content really easy.

[onyx lintel]

Drugos requires acc WHAT

since when lol

[plush thicket]

#1155731189966061598 message

Start reading from here and click the link in there to see the melee strat vs all ranged strat setups.

Key components are Tank (fru) you want like 4k+ defense to be safe

Ideally a healer as the top orb lure so fru gets more heals

Another healer

2 dps (One with crown or witch)

Theres LOTS of ways to build this, I still prefer the 3 affinity Quarion strat for s1. But Quarion, Heks, Fru, Sigrid, and whoever you want to apply witch/crown should work just fine.

[plush thicket]

s1 when we first tested it. 100% sure.

[onyx lintel]

Which part of it??

[plush thicket]

The 5 second damage reduction

Shows up just like attack down on the screen

[onyx lintel]

I have never seen it visually debuff.....

[plush thicket]

Its usually overwritten or blocked or you dont have the accuracy. Every time we pick up new folks in our alliance each season this comes up and we explain it, they even test it, and are like daaaamn it

I honestly thought it just auto did it too till we were like wait a minute, lets be sure.

Id be delighted to hear if its changed in 2 months.

(I refuse to buy it)

[shrewd flint]

Did the chests stay in inventory after switching to S2? Or gone like all the cooked stuff not used till then?

[plush thicket]

If it says reserved at the top, yes. Example:

[mental thunder]

hmm shadow team is disappointing me

1 min, 3.5m pace

[plush thicket]

Now that said every chest is locked to its contents when its pulled from the source its pulled. So the epic s1 chest - s1 epics only.

[plush thicket]

Show me team

[mental thunder]

thinking i build a 3rd shadow is all; i have taldie + tathoth, ripelkas in dps gear, questa, estella

questa kinda gimp damage so maybe replace with chitter?

[plush thicket]

Prooooobably gonna be slow. Chitter isnt bad damage.

[mental thunder]

or cifla maybe

prob just build her since she's rare easy scroll

[plush thicket]

Questa I just use as a tank. Load her up on barely enough defense/hp, accuracy, and the rest damage.

She is also the only person ive used Tundra 3pc on all season

aaaaand I just realized I never skilled her up, whoops

Literally been this way since s0

But dps wise she isn't bad, its more her carriers than are awesome (and the heals)

[onyx lintel]

wtf is this lol

[mental thunder]

when taldie fails to land defense down

https://tenor.com/view/fatsa-buggs-bunny-pavlis-papadopavlos-gif-18032290

[shrewd flint]

Thx. No banner, S1 locker got it.

[plush thicket]

Some thing they gave us in s0 but its at the top of my inventory

It does nothing.

https://tenor.com/view/simpsons-radioactive-man-ny-eyes-goggles-do-nothing-gif-12845538

[glossy palm]

Is there a good burn team or is my frost team still better

[onyx lintel]

frost prolly better

Burn good for end boss tho

[onyx lintel]

For end boss about the same tbh

for Gobbo and such your frost is better

[glossy palm]

I’m currently using garrius, auster,rava,Vini, and sigrid

[onyx lintel]

Drop Sigrid... add Rowena or smth

Oh add Usha

[plush thicket]

Even better when you pull Voresh. Voresh is basically my heal source for Goblin.

Basics of easy Goblin:

Rava or Loss
Usha or Drizzt
Voresh
2 best frost ranged aoe

ONly thing youre missing is voresh for heals and global aoe.

[plush thicket]

Of note, for Mekka: I used Beags, Durem, and Araces and got pretty damn good scores. Not Vidi or Sigrid double hit scores, but pretty good scores. So be prepared to use these later.

[glossy palm]

I haven’t been having problems with dying

[glossy palm]

Why?

Sigrid accounts for 25% of my damage

[plush thicket]

Then skip voresh, use Auster, Rava (crown/witch), Dork, Rowena, Usha.

Later stages usually a healer is needed to keep usha up, the goblins actually do enough damage to her.

Reason why not to use Sigrid: Shes not in 5 affinity in s2, so she wont be part of your goblin crew (likely) in s2. You can use her but I always got faster times in S2, using an all ice squad, and I even used Ice MC with ulti off.

[torn badger]

i got some new champs and 1 new lego

[plush thicket]

Lets see what you got!

[hollow talon]

Fire Pillar 60, can’t complete it

Missing Talanon for wild team.

Using Garrius, Felicity, Errish, Caraman and Synarell

[honest falcon]

How essential is whisk on corrosion team? Will it still compete with IB without him? have rook and ex arti and Dargo but no whisk

[plush thicket]

Not. Use dargo and Gegnu

Its WAY better with Whisk, but Dargo and Gegnu work

[plush thicket]

Emperor sets
1-2 sets of puppeteer
Caraman sucks, swap to Follie or try Journ

[glacial mesa]

Id swap garius to horrus, use good heal with def up like liko

He also gived acc/res/buff prohibition, not best healer but awesome supp

Also use dane maybe, got it lvld to 100

[torn badger]

Thank you. give me bit, setting up inflatables lol

[glacial mesa]

Ok after 1 day of s2 I can say: 1. Ice blast setup is good for single target like vortex. 2. Phaesa is fu..in op Char 3. My setup at end of the day which seems to be good for most of content(made a lot of resets): ergander sigrid zhar'loth irina iola/voreesh

[plush thicket]

Wait till you get ardeth

[plush thicket]

What was the new stuff?

[torn badger]

bionphray n some epics

[plush thicket]

Ahhh unfortunately Bion is really bad (he was my first legendary) but more epics is good.

Iola is a superstar later when you need lit

[open dagger]

@onyx lintel Sorry for the late reply. I don't have any elemental specific Lego dupes, that's why I can't buy them. I have like 5 fire dupe tokens and I already bought all the fire ones. I planned to get them all at some point.

[torn badger]

yeah she was a new 1 also

[plush thicket]

TBH save one for s2 then heh.

Unless a few of them are on core characters, then just inspire them (You can undo inspiration, fyi)

[onyx lintel]

I would make sure you have Vest Solar Horn Hourglass Witches and Staff. After that you can probably save.

Depends on your needs really but those are core.

[torn badger]

pulled dane

[open dagger]

@onyx lintel @plush thicket Thanks for the info. Of the five you named, I'm only missing the vest. I'll get that and bank the rest for s2.

One last question, I heard the Ring of Winter is best for Auster. I just got him but can't get it because of no Lego ice dupe. Is it worth getting?

[plush thicket]

Ring of Winter is amazing in every frost comp.

Auster gearing tho, is crit build with attack speed. S1, do gambler sets, crit 97%+, lots of attack and crit damage. Try goblet vs horseshoe until you get ring of winter. Look for attack speed adds on runes.

[open dagger]

@plush thicket Awesome! Thank you

[real meadow]

Ooh Auster gearing strats, my favorite flavor

[rotund wedge]

Hey guys, thanks again for your help! I want just to inform you, with which team im ending up with, I can´t reset characters tomorrow anymore. Maybe its interesting for you. First team i will start in season 1 is dauntless, pretty good result on vortex. Second team will do most likely a frost/ necro team. Thanks, without you guys i would not have tested so much and coming up with dauntless. ❤️

[nimble niche]

What tean can i use for flame/ice/tempest 8

[dapper haven]

help, need 1 team for radiant, which rally is most profitable for chief challenge?

assume I had all radiant rare

[safe nebula]

Without lorentheel rally team is not great

Second option would be tathlyn but see u dont have him

Alton does good dmg and can be helpfull but i dont think u can do 22m with just them

[azure sluice]

One guy cleared almost all but the tip dungeons just with Sigrid Tamar Iola Frurbath and Nathaniel. I think your would reach fairly far as well until you need specific comp for fey and top dungeons

[azure sluice]

Alton can work as enabler... Had you have the rally heroes that consume rally eith their battleskill. Hegio might be your best, but still only ok.

[safe nebula]

Rally is sadly too tide to lorentheel

No good budget option without him

[golden smelt]

Is non-scrolled Eurion good vs scrolled Elvis or Dallbam?

[azure sluice]

On that note, thus that mean Synarell and Aladiah passive need accuracy as well? I thought it does, but some people disagree when someone want to use slingshot with Synarell

[round wagon]

Can someone help an idiot out?

[azure sluice]

The attack stun the one at the very back. Why are you putting Adrie instead of Elecebre?

[azure sluice]

The thing is Elecebre gained res equal to acc. So you can reach 400 acc and res. Ancient Battlefield 9 need around that. Instead replace Adrie with actual DPS.

[round wagon]

Alright... I think I can retool her, Her attack is too high imo....

Other then that, The others I assume is just killing me due to buff steaaling.

[azure sluice]

Or just change element. For many people, they use healer with high res, heal that scale with target hp. Ice necro has no good healer for now other than Torrin. Also yeah, try not to have many buff.

[round wagon]

sigh, this team is squeking by 60% of content... I'm guessing it is possibly a simple idea of just switching gear....

I totally don't feel like doing that right noiw though... Beyond that, just got to make sure the units aren't buffing themselves.

[azure sluice]

Well, you are going to need multiple teams by the endgame anyway. Optimally 6. If anything most already need AB specific team to reach your place right now.

[delicate pecan]

That'll be rough when Elecebre's ult puts two buffs on everyone

[round wagon]

I dislike how far her defense has fallen....

[fleet sail]

3k is more than enough for soaking that

[north sonnet]

Finished at last

[fast ibex]

Quiz q on Daphne ult skill When it says 35 % of atk but then the healing is off damage Does that 35 % atk include crit ? And since it doesn’t specify is the healing based on her only or the possessed units total damage? Trying to decide if I load her pure atk Or would monellise blessing set and moonlight mantle work since mantel says all healing assume will be the ultimate and mona heals that get boosted? And last bit does spirit incense burner work on shadow since they generate shadow not ultimate energy ?

[lucid iris]

How do you kill them? They destroy my entire team in a few seconds.

[radiant comet]

Looking for some advice on a team for Grave Of Rot 12 please

[bold onyx]

Good comp for necrotic end game otherworld

Fire and poison as well too if yall could please. Last three teams that I struggle woth building t9 hit 22m

[dapper haven]

for necro, Gulende, Isitarian, Joyce, Estelle, an 1 tank of your choice, Irma could be good

For poison I like to use Sigrid Eli as DPS, then the rest is debuffer and double healer

[dapper haven]

could go Hexandra and Isolde

[bold onyx]

People always say to use zardok that he's good in this

[dapper haven]

I was mentioned the poison team

[bold onyx]

Ment for the necrotic team

[dapper haven]

I dont really like zadok

[bold onyx]

Oh and my apologies...ghul was used for the ice team

[dapper haven]

then you can replace him for zadok

but really, buit estelle, isitarian, and Irma (necro tank)

Estelle heal like crasy

[bold onyx]

Okay awesome

My teams so far

[supple quartz]

Looking for some advice for teams to get through stages 7/8 of most dungeons.

[fast ibex]

12 ? Mine Capps out at 9 and I’m in s3

[mint plover]

Just wondering if I have a decent group of heroes starting out. Only level 18 in season 1.

[radiant comet]

Season 1 update added levels 12 to all dungeons. But afaik it only happened for those still in season 1.

[plush thicket]

I dont remember what other dauntless you have, but you WILL find better than Vani later on. Keep climbing those ranks!

[plush thicket]

Syn no
Aladiah yes

[plush thicket]

Are you still having problems here?

[plush thicket]

Two tanks. Set them opposite sides of the field to hold the mobs back. 1-2 healers. Even if its 1 dps, just make sure its a good one (Auster should do it fine)

[plush thicket]

#1155731189966061598 message

[plush thicket]

I just realized ive been copy and pasting this for over 6 months. You can always modify this by other characters as long as they replace the core functions of the comp. Easiest 22m ever.

Zhar you build with skill haste and attack for heals
Adrie is Brotherhood set, Incense, accuracy
Questa is dps, crown/witch, accuracy
Zadok pure DPS
Eleuia all attack speed

Basically adrie and questa screw up Thelendor's ulti energy while Eleuia summons a bunch of skeles to tank some of his ulti hits, and zadok just does dps and also summons skeles.

[plush thicket]

https://discord.com/channels/928541801260908546/1155731189966061598

Each dungeon is different. Give a read, ask about specific dungeons. If youre talking gear dungeons, normally venom and curse is where you are bouncing back and for till you have the gear you need.

[supple quartz]

So yeah itd be those that id be looking for help to get through, im at the quest to beat 6 on both and cant get by it at all, ive also hust pulled Hochadir if that helps? @plush thicket

[plush thicket]

You have two really good/core characters, Fru and Tamar.

However, right now you should be using Fru, Heks, Sigrid, someone who applies debuffs for sigrid (even letalis or dench), and fire MC with what Im seeing that you have.

[plush thicket]

Read the guide. Use either the melee or ranged positioning for venom, ranged is the easiest to setup for venom.

If youre having trouble choosing what characters to use, ask.

Curse you need to:

Make big shields and use attack down before the boss ultis so his shields are small
Make HUGE shields before the boss ultis so his shields are small
Delete the shield after he shields with a character like Shook or Brody

[bold onyx]

I do not have zhar. Who would you replace him with

[plush thicket]

Whatever heals and does damage. Could try ghul.

[bold onyx]

Ghul was used already unfortunately

[bold onyx]

Uloar or estella...uloar heals when skills are used

[radiant comet]

Thanks. I guess i need to work on Fitz then

[lucid iris]

So, can anyone gimme an advice for this fight please?

[lucid iris]

Sorry, didn't notice your answer. Thank you. And I tried it that way, and still I lose.

[round wagon]

Mmm, probably. Just woke back up. Give me about 5 minutes to check.

[sour oriole]

@bold onyx is it chief challenge or OW boss? Either way, you can try Voresh if you havent used him

[plush thicket]

Uloar is trash. Estella could heal it but I dunno where youll be with damage.

[round wagon]

Yep.

[bold onyx]

Ow bose

[sour oriole]

Where you can same boss multiple times?

[bold onyx]

Not aure

[lucid iris]

I'm a beginner, but I guess Voresh ain't good for boss fights.

[sour oriole]

@bold onyx these were my teams for OW

Id maybe try in your case, Zadok, Joyce, Deverick, Megan as tank and Estelle as healer

[plush thicket]

#1155731189966061598 message

So okay s1, I kid you not, once you figure this out for your crew, is the easiest boss in s1.

Voresh at 18 or 18.1 / 18
Have your rearmost, or rearmost upper character, in 300+ resistance (I usually use a healer there). The anti stun mythic chest here works instead of the 300+ resistance
Use fru
Use 2 DPS

NOBODY BUFFS

Even if its slow it'll safely complete. I was doing this with Fru, Sifris (she was the backfire target, had her ulti off), Felicity, Errich, and Voresh s1. Its super easy. Voresh shuts off the buffs, the backfire goes off, and its enough heals between Fru and Fru's passive for sifris.

[sour oriole]

S2 AB is something else tho... waiting for this anniversary just so I can get Adolphus and finally run AB 9

[plush thicket]

Its doable without adolphus, just sloooooooooowwwwwwww

Adolphus does make it easier tho for sure

[sour oriole]

Idk, I didnt bother that much. Tried several comps and was like meh, just gonna save stamina so I can run it with Adolphus soon

[round wagon]

smh three characters I don't have. Felicity and Sifris, I'm okay with not having at this point. It's been Adolphus that's been eluding me for months now... He don't like me.

The buffs got me to ancient battlefield 12 for all content. I figured how to beat all the others after the nerf. It's just ancient battlefield that's laughing in my face right now.

[plush thicket]

The dps doesn’t matter, what matters is fru and Voresh. Healer can be anyone who doesn’t buff - Heks works. Dps can be anyone who doesn’t buff.

[lucid iris]

But Voresh heals only when hits a few targets, and boss is only one target.

[sour oriole]

Voresh prevents buffs and removes buffs

On top of healing and being a defense down carrier

[round wagon]

I really think it would help alot if you could easily just sort your units by attack, accuracy etc... Like 3k attack or better is what I'm looking for.

Ripekad is all that comes to mind. Voresh needs more accuracy and Ghulende is just a paper weight.

[quiet oracle]

But that's any char you put %atk gear on...

Voresh with accuracy (more dependent on boss) can remove buffs, prevent buffs. Put Def down. V useful char. (Debuff for Sigrid, heal in Goblin etc)

[round wagon]

Lmao. I was lowkey thinking that's probably the reason.

But I'm going to take like a 2 hour break. It is like a game, the harder you try the worser you play.

[radiant comet]

Managed to pull Sutha earlier and thinking of using them for Vortex but not sure on the rest of the team

Garius, Sutha, Schaltar seem like a good start but unsure on Quarion or Catherine to heal? And Nimbus or Vani for last slot?
Also do you only want 70% crit for Sutha? Or do you still want to aim for 100% so the basic attacks crit and proc the passive more?

[round wagon]

Sutha needs 100% crit? hmmm....

Is 101 above just redundant or...

[radiant comet]

It would be redundant on her battle skill and ultimate since they get 30% bonus crit chance but if you stop at 70% then there's less chance to proc it from basic attacks.
So i thought i'd ask just in case.

[round wagon]

I have her and a few other legendary lightning units... Guess there not my style of play because I fell like they get washed to easily.

Might not need to bother with the timers. Otherwise this is what worked out for me after the nerfs.

[bright spire]

Do I need to focus on one team? If so what team should I focus on?

[leaden goblet]

Anyone have some suggestions on Pillar of Trials fire/radiance level 29? So many resurrection ability enemies lol

[onyx lintel]

70% cr, for Sutha. Team should be Garius Sutha Schaltar Nimbus and Catherine. When you get Nathaniel, drop Catherine for him

You can try to drop either Nimbus or Catherine for Iola but either one will probably be less dmg

[plush thicket]

So we did testing in s1, and found that 70% narrowly beat out 100% if youre getting a ton of additional crit damage due to it.

I'm in the 70% crit group, formerly of the 100% crit group.

[stuck rock]

Guys looking for a vortex goblin and venom and curse teams if yous could help me would be great!

[torn badger]

@plush thicket who should i put witchs rem on? thinking a debuffer since it has acc

also which grave should i be trying to push for gear?

[fleet sail]

anyone with 3+ hits on their ult.

So voresh, twitch, Iola, Gloin,

etc

[torn badger]

oh not using any of those lol

[plush thicket]

Exactly what Void told you - the main rule is 3+ hits from ulti.

Venom and curse, bouncing back and forth between the two until you hit 12. You need gear from both to beat both faster/easier.

[torn badger]

oh ok, im hard stuck on 6 rn

[plush thicket]

So you need something to beat the statistic 60%, which 3x does

[plush thicket]

Venom and curse have mechanics you have to pay attention to.

[torn badger]

prob could push 8 if i was to pay attetion lol

[plush thicket]

https://discord.com/channels/928541801260908546/1155731189966061598

[torn badger]

just been autoing it entire time lol

my main team has been vortex focus

[plush thicket]

Theres a section about curse.

Basics are, before ulti goes off:
Attack Down + Shields
Huge Shields

Shield remover (Shook, Brody) after the shield goes off

You also use voresh at 18 or 18.1 to shut off the boss's buffs

The section about venom click the link, and pick one - melee version or ranged version. Ranged version is easiest positioning.

The main mechanic is having a lure for the top orb, lowest hp high defense in the group. Two healers and a heal tank is easiest. Fru, Heks, Quarion works fine. You dont need 5 affinity, tank and dps in 3 affinity is plenty.

[torn badger]

oh ok

[plush thicket]

Every boss in the game has either positioning tricks, mechanics tricks, or both.

[torn badger]

Oh so for venom use fur n heks and sigrid or whatever in back?

[plush thicket]

Read the FAQ. Again, gotta have a top orb lure.

[onyx lintel]

Didn't your name have an e in it

[ocean flare]

choose one team for main questing and dungeons, until you are able to do the minium of 3 teams. Try to use your best heroes to start with, focusing on leveling the strongest you have. If you are looking for something specific , which team is best for Vortex, etc. ask that when you post for help. In this way, others may help you better.

[shy linden]

Im trying to pass venom 5

[ocean flare]

ok you in S1?

[shy linden]

yeah

[ocean flare]

ok hold up. I have never advised before, but I can tell you what I would do. One sec.

First off, spread your heoes out in formation. Corners and off mid with tank up front

Maybe someone can help you with lineups, but Horus is my favorite tank

try levelling team all the way up

YOu could use Catherine as healer

😂 Am not good at explaining.

[jagged copper]

have you tried, Edgar, Premsta, MC ice, Gillian, Deverick?

save MC shield and Dev attack down for Boss ult.

[dapper haven]

I prever Isitarian than premsta

[jagged copper]

For now, I was trying to find a team that is already leveled

[shy linden]

ok so the team Im trying to use is gillian, catherine, premsta, edgar, and vasska

vasska survives longest there

i traded mc out for vasska because Edgar wasnt surviving..

and once edgar dies then they all do

[jagged copper]

vasska surviving longer doesn't really matter if he is not helping your team. I would try deverick in somewhere since he has attack down.

and you might need to place another character with high HP/Def in the front with edgar so they split aggro and survive longer

[shy linden]

i think Ive already tried him.. thats why hes leveled

i will try him again

doesnt help because deverick is ranged

and edgar doesnt survive long enough for scharlach to summon

[jagged copper]

have you tried building one of your ranged characters with some def stats and putting them next to Edgar to take hits from one of the orbs? I think you survived longer with Vasska was because he took some damage from Edgar.

[shy linden]

but edgar does need another melee up front to survive

yes.. thats precisely whats going on.. vasska helps in 2 ways.. he shares damage with edgar and his summons boost premstas attacks when they die

premstas lead skill gives attack boost as well

Would gareth be a better tank than edgar? I know hes off affinity..

[jagged copper]

does Gareth have Attack Down 2? I can't remember

[shy linden]

defence up 2

attack penalty 2

[jagged copper]

Ok. this might sound crazy, but I would try with Edgar, Gareth, Deverick, Premsta, Gillian.

have Gareth and Deverick stagger their Attack Down Debuffs if possible

[shy linden]

this worked until half through the battle

if premsta had resurrection ability it would be nice lmao

[jagged copper]

was that better or worse than your previous runs?

[shy linden]

it was a little better than with vasska

what about uloar instead of deverick

[plush thicket]

Give me a minute

Im trying to figure out your team

youre like missing 1 core something

[shy linden]

ok

i did try dallbam as a tank but he died way faster than edgar lol

[jagged copper]

IMO, uloar doesn't do much healing, so I would not recommend her

[golden smelt]

Is non-scrolled Eurion better than scrolled Elvis?

[plush thicket]

Use the ranged positioning

Horrus Tank (Where fru is)
Gillian (Where heks is), Heksandra (Where Quarion is) - Heksandra is your top orb lure (High Defense, low HP, where quarion is in the image
Sigrid DPS, Errich with Crown. Doesnt matter which two of the back positions theyre in.

You could use Dench instead of Errich with Crown, Voresh if you unlock him is better.

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[plush thicket]

No theyre two entirely different types of tanks.

Eurion takes punishment better - ie tanks damage better. Elvis is for slowing down bosses, put accuracy on him.

[golden smelt]

Im creating a radiance/ice team for OW but im not sure which one should i go for

[plush thicket]

s2 both are great for alton. I like Elvis better cause Alton ults WAY less so I dont have to worry too much about heals

[shy linden]

ok I’ll give it a try

[golden smelt]

Ok got it. Thanks!

[plush thicket]

Just make sure Heksandra has the LOWEST health of the whole team, so the top orb targets her.

[severe dune]

You need to go fire and poison in session one and why sigrid and hurrus not level up

[golden smelt]

@plush thicket hang on. Can Ardreth solo tank?

[plush thicket]

Yep

Alton is the EASIEST boss

And if youre still having trouble with Journ, PM me

[golden smelt]

Nice. Ive been saving scrolls for her

[shy linden]

Ok so I was already testing a lineup.. I used premsta, gillian, edgar, vasska, and gareth.. and finally passed it

[plush thicket]

Yea it just gets harder to pass as you go up in levels in the dungeon. That positioning and method comes from a ton of testing in s0 and s1 by a lot of people.

But it should work all the way through 12 for you. I've helped several people through it this week to get to 12

[shy linden]

Vasska and Edgar are definitely tanking more than gareth though

[plush thicket]

Shouldnt be. You should only need 1 tank. If youre using two melee, thats a different positioning. That said, whoever has the lowest HP, the top orb automatically targets. So thats why theres gonna be at least 1 person taking some damage, so you want high defense, lowest hp on them.

But if Edgar is low defense that could be why

But if you use the ranged positioning format, only your tank and top orb lure ever take damage

[shy linden]

Ive been mostly following a positioning I saw online

[plush thicket]

Yea the stuff in my guide is tried and true for venom in s1.

It makes it soooo much easier.

[torn badger]

So just pulled garius, estalla n goy Errich

So being new I can prob just run fur and garius for all my double tanking needs right?

But fur will still be best for vortex cause if debuff right?

[shy linden]

I just unlocked heretical ruins and have been able to breeze through the levels so much easier than venom lol

[plush thicket]

Yes those are your two best tanks.

Vortex is more about affinity bonus.

[plush thicket]

Wait, it gets rougher I promise. Trick to that one is killing the small birds asap

[torn badger]

So Def fur right now than

As I don't have enough for a good garius team

Is errich good?

[naive dust]

Well fuq me I just pulled Lorentheel…I have some rally pieces, but also trolgar and vinyara…am I crazy thinking lorentheel/Alton/garius/hegio/trolgar vs another rally hero?

[plush thicket]

errich is good if youre with at least 1 other wild that is good, otherwise hes kinda meh.

[plush thicket]

Lorentheel, Alton, Garius, Hegio OR Wellby and you might not need gillian. Are you S2?

[torn badger]

Errich n rhash?

[plush thicket]

I thought you had someone else. Either post your Pois/Fire here or PM me

[naive dust]

S2 yea hence the trolgar thoughts😅

[naive dust]

I have never used wellby. Alton is a machine gun even alone…I can’t wait to see his deeps once I lvl this

[plush thicket]

Well lets look at this another way - what content, and show me your Rad/ice unlocks

Also let me know what Legendary artis you have

[naive dust]

I have the hourglass, the staff, witches remains, and two essences I don’t know what to do with. Ice team:

[plush thicket]

Okay. Any dice left to roll? Totally sucks you dont have Gerthin.

Like youre close to a decent IB squad.

[plush thicket]

(Hegio OR Martina) Alton Lorentheel. Its not amaaaazing but its good enough.

Alton carries witch

Go Garius/Gillian

IfGarius is enough heals, add in Hegio or Martina (whichever one you dont use) or Vinyara or Voresh, whatever you need

Trolgar is great - mostly in pvp. Hes only super good in pve with a ton of frost enabling, like what Loss does for a team.

Your best goblin team tho is still likely Voresh Rava Usha Dork and Ice MC with ulti off or rowena.

IF you can get Gerthin (shes in the banners, if you wanna focus that way) your vortex team changes to IB.

Bled, Gerthin, Nord

And theres a specific timing youll use with gillian/staffgar

[plush thicket]

Depends what your two essences are in

Horn is always useful somewhere just not in your Ice/Rad teams

Camel bells is amazing on characters like Gillian and other enl healers who have a big heal on ulti.

Organ on lorentheel isn't great for you yet unless you get huberg, philto, or swap to wellby. It helps alton but alton is also your witch so thats rough.

Torc is an upgrade if you're still using music box but I wouldnt go with that yet.

If you have a solid Dauntless team, Fan is a big deal

[naive dust]

I have premsta so i thought fan for her but summons is just bad. I have some leggos but not the right ones to make it work

[fleet sail]

leggo summons are a solid meh, yeah.

[naive dust]

Ya wasted a bunch of potions on the first guy -_-

[fleet sail]

Zadok, joyce, and isitarian actually do decent single target damage for otherworld and other necrotic stuff

Zadok just needs eueulia to summon skkeletons to stack his passive, and joyce and isitarian need each other

[naive dust]

How sad that my best summons team doesn’t use two leggos I have 😂😂

[plush thicket]

So shockingly, youd want it on Gaiolere instead of her, if you pair them together.

Whats nice about Necro is exactly what Void is talking about - there is some good stuff in the not summon characters.

And yea hes hitting the Zadok comp, hang on

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That

But Gaiolere and Premtsa can pump out damage in OW comps as a third team if you have the support to go with them. They just arent as omg amazing as other choices due to their CCs

And Epics are cheaper to skill level

[fleet sail]

yeah they're annoying because you never want to scroll them

[naive dust]

I scrolled premsta so hard day 1 of getting her. My first leggo s1

I use her in almost all teams still 😂

Each of my teams is one or two char away from being rock solid but none are there 🙃and I think I’m done spending at this point 🤫

[plush thicket]

Its okay tho - she works in pvp, and she adds into any necro affinitied team just fine as a dps. I run her crit build and she does just fine, and its nice that enl helps her do even more damage.

S1 I actually got top 50 utilizing her in pvp.

[plush thicket]

you're actually in pretty good shape tbh

[naive dust]

She ruins people in pvp yea, I ran her with garret/sutha and garius and Gillian

[plush thicket]

Ogguk is your next biggest pickup, esp for s2, and Ivellios.

[plush thicket]

So question, do you need a primer in dauntless?

[naive dust]

Yea ogguk seems bananas

[plush thicket]

And wild for that matter

[naive dust]

I’ve read about them but haven’t built either out fully. This is my first tour through the game

[plush thicket]

So quick version:

Schaltar you want with Garret and Sutha. Ivellios is the upgrade to Schaltar. Dauntless is all about basic attacks comboed with Schaltar, Ivellios, and/or Nastjenka

Wild: The best two enablers in the game for wild are Errich and Tonalnan because they can proc Wild more often for a 3rd wild. Your best wild for this is Follie. Follie skilled will outdamage Rhash unskilled, and Rhash skilled is baaarely better than Follie in this scenario. Rhash is great if all you have is Errich. Otherwise hes sorta trash.

Alfie is good for Caspar+Felicity, but nobody else. Like you dont wanna combo Errich or Tonalnan with him.

Theres a lot of other comments/advice I can throw at ya but it depends what you wanna know

Side note: You have a lot of very core unlocks in epics, like if this was my s1 account, Id invest some $ in it even tho Im on s3 with my main.

[naive dust]

Yea I have some good epic enablers I’ve only scratched the surface with the style teams. I had a mini rally team season 1 cuz I got Alton Martina and hegio early but they sucked w out strong enabler. So I have mostly built on affinity bonuses so far

[plush thicket]

So Alton Hegio Wellby DOES work. Cause all 3 are minor enablers. But Lorentheel is yea, way better.

Martina just doesn't work well without Lorentheel

[lunar fable]

Does martina work well with lorentheel though?

[plush thicket]

Yes, its the only way to make martina work well. Load her up with attack and crit damage and let lorentheel do the work

[round wagon]

I'm not doing too bad, but I still need some help.

I'm guessing I should commit to a fire team. Which 5 should I be using?

[plush thicket]

We'd have to see your whole Fire/Poison unlocks and your Lit/Rad unlocks to really tell you.

[round wagon]

Fire/Poison I understand how to work with.

Lightning/Radiance is just a hot mess. I don't have 5 at all imo.

[plush thicket]

Fru 14.5/20, make sure hes got enough accuracy to land the attack down. As much defense as possible, if youre at t4 legendary gear, 3pc ancestral

Ogguk 25.7/20. He needs as much Enl/attack as you can, 3 ears set if youre at t4 Legendary gear.

Errich with Crown/Witch, Time him to go then Tonalnan to go. Likely on a 18-19.5 count (So whatever is your lowest in the setting, then Tonalanan 2 seconds after Errich, cause errich's 5 shots take 2 seconds to Land)

Rhash (For now) - Goes at same timer as Tonalnan. If you pull Follie or really any other Legendary Wild you replace him.

3 ears on debuffers, Gambler sets on DPS if youre at t4 Legendary gear.

Other team:

Schaltar, Sutha, Tharivol. Sutha or Tharivol can carry crown. Optimized teams use tharivol a lot, but early on Sutha at 70% crit is easiest to have carry crown. You can also drop Sutha or tharivol for Iola with Crown.

Garius at 27.4 or 21.4 and Catherine at 14.5

[round wagon]

Well for starters, might be a team for tomorrow. Beyond that is this good enough?

Probably one of these two for today perhaps?

Just a fair warning, don't laugh to hard at how my radiance/lightning characters are built. I just don't really get them at all...

[plush thicket]

Good enough but you have a lot of refining to do.

1. Crown of the Unclean is REALLY important, get it on Errich.

2. Tonalnan only needs 80% crit (look at her passive). Load her up with crit damage and attack otherwise. Chestpiece on Tonalnan is worthless, you dont need it, use any other set unless that has best stats. You want the Precise carnage on Tonalnan, she is your best DPS.

3. 3pc Ears on Errich is really important to go with the crown. Build him like a DPS otherwise (97%+ crit, lots of crit damage, attack). He needs 230 accuracy to land crown in vortex 4 if you have the 5 levels of accuracy on Poison/Lit in your affinity bonus tree

4. You can TRY caraman but its likely that Dane might work better for now.

5. Ogguk does NOT need accuracy, but Fru really, really does for his attack down. You can try running this but you may run into inconsistency issues with Ogguk applying attack down. You mostly need his BS for cleansing the defense down. Do NOT put any skill haste on him other than whatever a set gives.

[plush thicket]

Its okay. How they work is their basic attacks and skills (which also count as basic attacks) trigger Schaltar.

Same rules with debuffers, tanks, and healers, Catherine also works off enlightenment (but not attack) like Ogguk does. Both Fru and Garius scale off of Defense, you want as much as possible on them. For Vortex, you want them to have the HIGHEST health, but as low as you can while having higher health than everyone else. You can worry less about Fru's health though, because he will be protected by Ogguk in that setup.

[round wagon]

I have no idea, how to utilize them though.

[plush thicket]

Its not too complicated, same thing - trigger the ultis of the dps after crown lands.

Same setups as all other dps/debuffers/healers/tanks in your case. The only weird exceptions are Tonalnan and Sutha - Tonalnan only needs 80% crit due to her passive, Sutha only needs 70 due to his skills

[round wagon]

Okay. I guess this spills over into chief challenges. What other two for each element should I be using. Or can you use the same team against every challenger?

[plush thicket]

Chief challenges as in continental bosses, uhh

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4hhqmpNIvU

[round wagon]

Mhm.

[plush thicket]

Start there

Each has some mechanics to work with and some positioning

Also this

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[round wagon]

Well, this is what I have at the moment for necrosis.

[plush thicket]

Yea stick to the formula I have outlined or whatever gorax is doing

The main thing is how Eluia scales up Zadok quick AND provides targets for Thelendors ulti

[round wagon]

Haven't watched just yet, and I just coppied pastaed your message.

[round wagon]

ATm, Not sure I will have the necrosis team suggested ready in two days time.

[plush thicket]

Yea thats the crux of the issue, it takes a lot of prep and etc for it

Its why in s2 and s3 we basically spend nearly all of our energy and bread in month 2 at Goblin and Ele domains

Cause were doing teams for the continental bosses (actually weeks 3/4 in month 1 too to prep at least 4 teams, usually you can level 1 team a week with 330 energy a day), and then need 15 teams for OW

[round wagon]

Whoa, an hour long video? I got to do arena in ffbe wotv right now, lol. Thanks for the info then. I'll have to look at the video after that is done.

[plush thicket]

Yea the Continental bosses, which become OW bosses in month 3, are a pretty deep subject.

Its why Ive never written a guide

[round wagon]

15 teams?

[plush thicket]

For max points, yes.

But for last boss (Copper Dragon) you only need 6

[round wagon]

lol, I barely have three for arena actually.

[plush thicket]

Like dont try and hardcore tryhard it if you dont wanna.

Its all good

S1 just learn the ropes and have fun

You can get nuts in s2

Like right now - you have REALLY good unlocks and an an account.

[round wagon]

I'm in the top ten in all arenas, last I checked.

[plush thicket]

Just learn to use them well so you know what you want to target next in banners

[round wagon]

Yeah, there's not much I can do min/maxing wise during the weekday. But lthe weekend I got the time to try to squeeze out as much as possible to units.

Sometimes it's a bit annoying, like I don't have a def% main stat for ancestral protection to put on garius. And then the substats might not be great.

[plush thicket]

100%. Just keep asking questions as you have them, check my faq on bosses, etc.

https://discord.com/channels/928541801260908546/1155731189966061598

Mrow's guide has good stuff in it too:

https://discord.com/channels/928541801260908546/1202625010984820806

There is a LOT of youtube videos. IvyLee, Stewgaming has a lot of solid beginner stuff. Gorax gets into the powergaming aspect hard. Lots of other CCs are good too, but Ive heard and seen the most amount of good feedback about them.

[plush thicket]

Yea its part of the struggle tbh. I still dont have a crit damage precise carnage gauntlet, or an enlightenment moonlight mantle chest. The main stats are the most important part of the chest and arms, so just do your best with what you have, do some farming with bread when you can

Minimum amount of teams, you just need 6 good ones for copper dragon.

[radiant comet]

Perfect! Thank you so much.
Also got Rot 12 cleared after the advice you lead me to yesterday.
So thank again.

[stuck rock]

Can someone help

[cunning charm]

Hi, bro

Can someone help me build vertex team SS3 please

[nimble niche]

what team for frost and lightning

[hollow talon]

Anyone who have tips for Vortex? Am I doing something wrong? Netting around 95-105M with this team.

[fleet sail]

throw the gem from season 2 pillars on frurbath

or horn if you have it

also no witch's remains for whisk?

[hollow talon]

Nope to all three 😂

I’ve been really unlucky untill this season.

[fleet sail]

you can probably eke out another 10m+ with stat minmaxing and more mythic pieces?

Like a def down gloves on whisk

also idk if whisk's set is the right one

[hollow nymph]

@elfin beacon

[elfin beacon]

you just started?

[hollow nymph]

Yea

[elfin beacon]

you can get the 99 cents epic unit picker to get garius/frurbath for tank. then from free battle pass track get sigrid. then use fire mc and heksandra as healer

that should be a good team already

if not, you will eventually get horus from free login

he can function as tank

for now you can use dench, heks, fire mc, the ice tank you have and another rando as place holder

[hollow nymph]

kk

thanks

[astral iris]

I would just use the necros lol

i like them more than dench/heks etc, but i agree about sigrid

[elfin beacon]

its feasible eluia is very good with the main deeps of necros

so when you get scarlach he will have summon generation from eluia

[astral iris]

i noticed he doesn't have forbit?

[elfin beacon]

that ice dwarf is not forbit?

[astral iris]

do new players not get him and gulal now

[elfin beacon]

they do

[astral iris]

not in his pic, that's gardus

[elfin beacon]

i actually cant remember how he looks like and assumed thats forbit

[astral iris]

i'm guessing he just didn't finish tutorial even

[elfin beacon]

right lol but new players do get forbit. probably havent advance the story yet

[astral iris]

new players get pulls too fast now 😭

would explain why he's all level 1

[elfin beacon]

@hollow nymph you can also run necro as suggested by croix.

[hollow nymph]

I reset all units, testing stuff

[elfin beacon]

maybe if you do get the epic chest zhar'loth might be worth considering if full necro

[astral iris]

or could just run necro early but reset to something else

before reset ends

[elfin beacon]

yeah do more purple dice and see what the game gives you

[astral iris]

using ishtarian is fun with his new dragon model

no longer a tiny baby dragon

[fleet sail]

no you don't get gulal or frorbit for free now

first 3 summons are guaranteed to be heksandra, eleuia and isitarian, and then after that it's all random

[elfin beacon]

huh what

[fleet sail]

I've done like 3 new server characters to test it

[elfin beacon]

not from story?

damn

[fleet sail]

unless it's super late in the story, like chapter 3+

definitely not in the first section, or nytheria

[elfin beacon]

kinda weird that they dont give you a tank at the start at the very least lol

[fleet sail]

but heksandra, isitarian and eleuia drop from your first 3 purple dice always now

[fleet sail]

You get a bunch of summons thrown at you

[elfin beacon]

ahhh

[fleet sail]

So they kinda work as tanks

until horrus on day 2

[elfin beacon]

seems like pushing newbies to use necro as well lol

[fleet sail]

yeah they give out scarlach and gaiolere for free now

which makes me think a rework is planned for those two

cus it happened that way with isitarian

[elfin beacon]

gaiolere is not free i think?

only scarlach

[fleet sail]

There's 2 summon leggos from the season journey

[elfin beacon]

i might have missed him let me check lol

[fleet sail]

it's given as a soul so if you already have him you just get an imprint

But I definitely remember 2 on the reward track

[elfin beacon]

dont see it but you might have mistaken it for great demon skull artifact

its scharlach + great demon skull artifact

gaiolere is departure pack which is paid

[fleet sail]

ah

maybe

[elfin beacon]

well still major boost giving out the main non ex nuker for necro + the bis artifact for free

[fleet sail]

yeah they're still trash

but they can at least get you through till you get other more useful leggos

[boreal quartz]

i need a grave of curse team for farming stage 7 & above

[indigo prism]

My third day. Pls help me form a team and let me know which captain skill to use. I am f2p.

[mental thunder]

this is not all your heroes. also look at my guide #1202625010984820806

reset the the frost mage and olgan, you dont want to use them.

horrus, torrin, vinyara, isitarian, trolgar would be fine to get through story

[bold onyx]

@hollow fiber

[radiant comet]

Any advice for making an ice team and a necro team would be greatly appreciated.
Need to build one of each for places like Labyrinth. Advice on gear sets would be much appreciated too please.

[real meadow]

I think the prevailing advice on gearing has been holy hunter sets on AOE characters and gamblers on DPS. Voresh needs holy hunter, Questa is worth the investment if you can kill fast

Eurion/Rava/Vidimir/Estella/Thia(Rowena for more frost DPS)

I just like Thia

You got gaiolere and shar which is a great start for a summon team. If you pull Vasska just throw tank gear on him and attack speed and let the party begin

[mental thunder]

Gamblers sucks on slow attackers with big ults…

Platinum knight in s1 >

[radiant comet]

So Gamblers for dauntless attackers and Platinum Knight for characters that damage from battle skills and ultimates like Sigrid or Vidimir?
Apart from Vortex of course.

Sorry for asking so many questions. trying to avoid wasting anymore resources given the limited time of seasons.

[honest rune]

Week 2 of Season 3, just pulled a dupe Sagomir and am wondering what legendary artifact I should pick up next.

I currently have Witches, Hourglass, Gatekeeper’s, and Solar Horn. Am in between Ghost Hook, Drugo’s Jar, Dawn Pipe Organ, and Queen’s Fan

Any suggestions from chat?

[mental thunder]

I held onto my last 2 dupes bc i dont NEED anything and i have similar artis to you (also have flametongue)… waiting to see what s4 has in shop or if i pull a dupe of an exclusive

[honest rune]

Gotcha, that makes sense. Its tempting to get an arti but yeah if something else comes up either as Exclusive/S4 then I'd probably wish I had the extra lying around

[mental thunder]

It is just that we dont get a ton of essence, and with the core artis usually on every team (gatekeeper, horn, witch’s) the only thing we really need is something for shields (elmo artifact, tiara or aurelium vest) and a dps artifact or two… i like flametongue, rally flute, shadow arti and ice blast arti but… they arent really necessary enough and arent universal to justify ditching a dupe for something really nice within a few weeks. Plenty of excellent epics

[honest rune]

I see. It was tempting to get a DPS artifact like you mentioned, which is why I was leaning to the Dawn Pipe Organ or seeing how people felt about the Ghost Hook for the dupe, but your logic also is sound to me too

[lucid iris]

How do you kill him?

[hollow talon]

Spread your units

[lucid iris]

Almost, damn 😦

[steel nebula]

Anyone know how to tune Nathaniel battle skill for vortex? Season 1 btw

[radiant comet]

Thanks. Wasn't sure if i should be running someone like Usha or Olgan with Eurion, Vidimir and Rava

[real meadow]

Usha is great but most fights bully melee

Gobbos she's aces in, tho.

[rare parcel]

You can't time Battle Skills if that's your question. You should probably place him in the middle of your team so that your heal and debuff removal can hit everyone

[jovial ermine]

Lol are u playing hardmode? XD

[red jackal]

guys help, tower level 58, cant get past it... hwat do u suggest?

[livid basin]

Not using tharivol??

[steel nebula]

I know you can’t tune/preset battle skills, but you can shorten the timing of which the recharge is to offset the animation time to have it go at a specific time rotation.

[plush thicket]

stun sets.

[severe dune]

What y'all choose red or blue?

[red jackal]

coudnlt do even with him =´[

[red jackal]

ok, which caracter do u sugest?

[livid basin]

Yeah stun sets are important

Take out that level 90 he won't help much you can do like twitch in a stun set

[waxen finch]

Would Sagomir be a good option on Vortex with Garius, Irina, Catherine & Garret? This is season 1 Vortex

[fleet sail]

he's okay, but you won't get much out of him compared to like nathaniel to clear the def down debuff

you'd basically be using him as a sub dps with some ulti ups thrown in

[plush thicket]

Fru is fine, Ogguk is fine, can have them both tank up front for all it matters.

Iola Sigird and pick something else youve got with aoe that does decent damage. You just want to use stun sets and disruption/cc to mess up the other team. Make sure tank/dps/debuffer all have stun sets appropriately statted. If it doesnt work the first time, run it again, stun sets rely on rng.

[cunning charm]

Please recommend vertex team build to me

[plush thicket]

rook dargo gegnu fru feenja

But post 90 for that

for now use whatever you want, IB, etc

Corrosion doesnt score high till post 90 and t4 gear

[cunning charm]

Thanks

[frozen hemlock]

which of these dps should I build next, pretty unsure

[mental thunder]

Do you need more wilds at the moment? To me it would seem like you have your team… errich, tonalnan, rhash, adolphus, yamyra

[regal flower]

@frozen hemlock

[frozen hemlock]

whats up

[frozen hemlock]

I dont have any wilds built up at the moment

[real meadow]

Anyone have suggestions for an AB9 team? I can repost my roster if needed.

[plush thicket]

Do you have voresh and fru?

[real meadow]

Voresh yes, fru no

[zenith river]

Anyone have a Lineup suggestion for Fey Meander 192?

ive not struggled a single stage until now and ive tried a buncj of diff comps and cant beat it

[plush thicket]

Voresh at 18/18.1, even 20 to shut off his buffs. Need him to be on an 18/18.5 max second cycle.

Heks, Sifris with ulti off, whatever for heals. Put 300+ resistance on them or a absolute defense chest on them, and have them be in the back/back row top so they get targeted with the backfire skill from the boss (first skill)

You need a tank that doesnt buff. Garius with staff kiiinda works.

Then two dps that dont buff. That's really it, unless you have vinyara.

[dapper haven]

help me build poison team for endgame boss S2

[stark thunder]

Who would you recommend scrolling first?

[jovial ermine]

Wish I could help you but since I skipped s2 so I have no idea how the boss works. But I heard that aoe is good so I guess a poison team that can do some aoe dmg?

[jovial ermine]

Hard to answer that since I don't know what kind of teams you using. So next time show your teams so it will be easier to see who is worth to scroll.

[dapper haven]

in that case, so jathalea, corrin, eli, sigrin and garian could work?

[stark thunder]

True that makes sense. This is my wild team and ice team

[jovial ermine]

Alright i guess the other legos is already scrolled? Then would say save your scrolls.

[jovial ermine]

Why not frurbath? He is already used?

[dapper haven]

Not yet, I had siggy for attck down and garian for heal, so I can use him for other team like dauntless team

[jovial ermine]

Ah i see

U should ask someone knows about the s2 more.

[dapper haven]

okkie, thanks for help anyway🥰

[jovial ermine]

But if u using your wild team a lot then u could scroll caspar/errich. Errich is worth to scroll when u have wild team which u have.

[dapper haven]

Perkunte hits so hard, I cant keep my dps alive

[mental thunder]

You need at least 1 dispel, maybe 2 if you have the units

curse recipe is: shield ult, attack down ult, 1-2 dispels, big heal, 1 dps.
Huldork (make sure he is 4 tiles away so he doesnt reduce ult), adolphus… damage and heals. 🤷‍♂️

[midnight plinth]

Please help me with Ice Radiance team for Pillar of Trial please
Always stuck

[radiant comet]

Any advice on how to beat the Questa challenge fight?
She always seems to kill my dps no matter what i do.

[mental thunder]

Questa targets the lowest health unit with her battle skill jump, so just bring a low hp healer with super high defense to bait her

It is the same in arena, pillar and fey… gotta read the skills

[radiant comet]

Oh i know about her targeting the lowest hp but wasn't sure how to deal with it since they'd always die fast.
Didn't think to just stack defense on someone to deal with her though, thanks

[halcyon copper]

Try ripekas as your tank and ardie for ultimate down traveler for sheild then sharlach and torrin

[mental thunder]

That be crazy talk lol

On curse?

I would never use ult manipulation there because you want predictable timers every turn for auto

[halcyon copper]

I always run auto and works fine for me haha

[mental thunder]

Huldork dispels 2 buffs and attack down on both battle skill and ult, he is a cheat code in curse… but you have to make sure he is 4 tiles or more away from boss or he will ult manipulate which is bad

[halcyon copper]

Yes like vinyara

Ultimate down

Thats why i have ardi

Haha

[mental thunder]

Weird but if it works for you that is nice

[halcyon copper]

Thats my f2p account in S1 haha

[mental thunder]

I would never use ult manipulation in dungeons, only on chiefs/ow bosses

[halcyon copper]

I only use ultimate down in curse haha

[mental thunder]

And i also wouldnt level scharlach but thats a different conversation

[halcyon copper]

I mean based on his heroes its already level up

[mental thunder]

I ignore things already leveled when people ask for help usually… most of the time they leveled some nonsense and i can only point them to the right path not lament their missteps

Nathaniel, huldork, adolphus, auster, usha would work

[halcyon copper]

Yeah huldork too is good there

[mental thunder]

Make auster the offdps enabler, usha the main dps. Nathaniel in tank gear in the middle so he heals everyone; adolphus main heals. Nath ult before boss ult, adolphus ults right after to full heal and shield

Nath also gives defense up; huldork full dispel and attack down

[radiant comet]

Your advice made it easy, thank you

[mental thunder]

I still avoid her in arena though

It is too annoying lol

You can also (with 5 unit teams though) bait a jumper to your dps but have a thicc support next to them. What happens is the jumper hits your dps with the jump but then melee basic attacks the support so you have time to heal up

But that is gambling she doesnt oneshot you

[radiant comet]

That's usually the sort of thing i've done in arena but wasn't sure what to do here.
Baiting with low hp but high defense seems so obvious now though lol.

[mental thunder]

Gets harder when there are multiple jumpers though

Which is bs fey and pillar nonsense.

[radiant comet]

Yeah i've hit a wall in Fey at 171 cleared.
As for Pillar i've managed to clear fire/poison and am at 59 for lightning/radiance. Had issues with them reviving but now i've got Sutha so will give it another go.
Haven't touched ice/necro yet as i've only recently got a somewhat viable team and need to work on leveling and gearing them.

[midnight plinth]

please help

[delicate pecan]

A lot of us in my alliance last season used this for their poison team. Etches is also helpful after 50 percent when Mekkatorque puts atk down with the cleanse on her ult

[dapper haven]

Okayy, thankyou fella🥰

[bold onyx]

Almost to 22m on my summons team but I'm stuck

[round wagon]

Dude. I have half a mind to take you to the wood shed.

These units you suggested barely last 3 rounds of against the chief challenge rotation.

[bold onyx]

So you ask for help then threaten violence. Tf hey @viscid dirge

[real meadow]

I have lelwanis but can't seem to make a team to compliment her properly. Any suggestions for a necro squad around her?

[round wagon]

Nah, just kidding around. But it was disspointing to see how little the changes did for now. smh.

Besides the question that comes to mind is, where is the survivability?

I don't really think necrosis type got any decent healers besides Thia.

[plush thicket]

It's a you problem then.

[round wagon]

Well, then carry on.

Used to figuring it out on my own anyways.

[bold onyx]

Seriously remove yourself from the server. You simply asked for help and you got it then tried it but because timing, scrolls etc. It didn't work. You threatened someone whom helped you and threw a tantrum like a kid and when confronted. Your like haha it's a joke... after nearly a half hour had gone by. Nah that's not a joke, your irritated and lashed out. Do better.

[round wagon]

Have a mind to take you to the wood shed, isn't funny to you fine. But you're coming off incredible but hurt over a vague threat. Yeah, I got an issue with the advice, it's not working as well as I thought it would. Which feels like a wasted effort. Either you want to see what the issue is too course correct, or you don't. It's clear that you don't. Which is fine with me, I'll still use the information you gave me to fine tune what I have and come up with something that works for me.

[viscid dirge]

We are to handle eachother with respect, everyone here is trying to help each other, if the advice doesn't work for you then its either a skill issue, gear issue, scroll issue, all three or something just aint working then rather look at it again and see whats wrong, but a vague threat or getting upset cause it didnt work for you or work as intended isnt how you respond to players trying to help you.

[round wagon]

I was never upset. Which is the only misconception here.

[real meadow]

My current necro/summon team. The only reason I use summons at all is because lelwanis does dummy damage, but I can't seem to clear content with the rest of the squad (i.e necrosis domain in otherworld). is it a gear issue? Or am I just scuffed without gaiolere and the other legendary summons

Should I dust off isitarian now that he went to the chamber of gains and got a new ultimate?

[viscid dirge]

Swap ish with the rare, ish is quite good now but summoners as a whole is difficult to use

[fleet sail]

lelwanis eats his dragon btw

[onyx lintel]

Llewanis is good with mass summoners, so not great with Scharlach

Or Istarian

[fleet sail]

makes isi less effective

[onyx lintel]

Llewanis is good with Eulia the rare

[fleet sail]

eluia would probably be better yeah

[onyx lintel]

Is good with Zadok

Scharlach is great with Isitarian

[fleet sail]

isitarian works best with joyce out of everyone imo

only dude with significant ranged summs

[onyx lintel]

Imo drop Scharlach and Vaska... add Eulia and Zadok if you have them

[real meadow]

I have eulia, don't have zadok sadly. Maybe I should use that epic chest from the banner rewards to get him if he's in the pool. I haven't looked yet

[fleet sail]

nope

use that to get garius

[real meadow]

I have garius tho

[fleet sail]

frurbath?

voresh?

[real meadow]

Don't have him, probably should get yhat

I have voresh

[fleet sail]

all more important than zadok

[real meadow]

Gotcha

[plush thicket]

Youre talking the $1 epic chest?

[real meadow]

Nope, the one you get after 25 summons on the blessing banner

[fleet sail]

Oh that one's not worth it

[real meadow]

Oh dang

This game punishes me for liking it by refusing to give me coherent teams

[plush thicket]

This is the normal struggle your first season, its okay.

There are stories we could tell you from s0/s1 that are similar and worse. Its one of those just do your best, it comes around really nicely in s2.

[real meadow]

Guess I gotta wait another month then before my server hits s2 to do anything then

I'm actually a lil mad because I've pulled Voresh as a dupe from regular dice but never fru, even after I got garius

Shoulda used the $1 chest on fru

[plush thicket]

Not true, just be okay with scores not being perfect.

[plush thicket]

No this is normal.

There was a different kind of epic chest in s0, I grabbed voresh. He then popped in purple dice - a lot. Tin foil hat wise, who knows. But it happens to a lot of us

[viscid dirge]

Lol that wont work

[real meadow]

It's very frustrating. I built her for 100% crit rate and she just gets focused down by the Questa in ED-Necro and Estella is too slow on the healing to keep up

Lelwanis is a trap legendary, designed to fool gullible people into thinking summons are fun

Also gearing in this game sucks

[real meadow]

Tried breaking the 5 affinity to put in Heks and that didn't work either. Swapped to horrus, still didn't work. Endgame S1 is a scam

[mental thunder]

it totally is lol

[mental thunder]

have you read my guide? the first bit of advice in it that i repeat multiple times holds true.

#1202625010984820806

[round wagon]

Lol. Was just thinking that as I read the notification.

[mental thunder]

estella is op healer now. joyce + isitarian are strong dps, i use that same setup irma + them for my chief and now ow 22m+ team in s3

uloar in that team prob is unnecessary and can bring a debuffer for attack down

but she does heal if you have a lot of haste on her if oyu really need it

gladros can work, deverick can work

[round wagon]

I'm going to try to go to sleep now. Got work in like 2.5 hours. If I still feel " lost " I'll go ahead and say something later.

I think team skill synergy and positioning is probably the only issues left.

The affinity board has been maxed out for like 2 weeks now.

I guess the only other issue could also be lacking a unit

[mental thunder]

well if you are in ow and this is a dark damage team, estella should be able to main heal if irma is the only target of the boss... which means you need to increase survivability of irma. gladros with accuracy on a brotherhood set or deverick with defense down artifact both should work there in place of uloar if you have them

[round wagon]

Sigh... I got no Adolphus. Isolde just ain't it due to her being melee imo.

[mental thunder]

why cant isolde be your tank there then

why use irma if you have her

[round wagon]

Hold on a bit. On seperate pages here...

[round wagon]

Nothing comes to mind when you say Irma. Estella I don't have. Deverick.. I'm iffy on him. But he is at level 90 from last night. Gladros I haven't touched because he's a coward. And Uloar, she's cute. But I haven't heard anything positive about her.

[mental thunder]

isma is your tank in that team

irma*

omg i was looking at screenshot above you

your comment*........ gdi i'm tired

i dont even know what we are talking about anymore

[round wagon]

Oh. I would like to bring up a joke issue about your guide. Still don't have Adolphus after like 40 days smh.. Tisk tisk.

I've built up Isolde but I think Horrus does a better job of tanking for fire element.

[mental thunder]

it depends on what you need

isolde

and it stacks with ancestral protector set, so 30% damage redux for your team

and attack down II on her ult so it is predictable and timer capable

meanwhile horrus individually is just tankier himself. so if you only need tank to take damage and no one else... horrus can suffice. but you have to bring shields, heals, attack down II for him.

isolde you just bring heals and done

so defining better job of tanking imo is the ability to reduce the number of OTHER units i need to bring in a team to fill all needs

if you look at the burn team i run here, isolde doesnt even HAVE a healer

elminster + isolde; and i have i think percival in an offhealer set lol

[round wagon]

Ugh... I want to look to see what I have. But I really should try to sleep for the next hour.

Sorry man, but I hope I can scroll back to this later.

Well screenshotted.

I'll come back to this later if I have issues with ....? Not sure. Huh.

[mental thunder]

@hollow fiber whatd you use for dark 59

cant get past wave 1 nonsense

[hollow fiber]

@mental thunder Tamar hourglass, Iola witch's , Zharloth , Berengar(any tank just best i got) , unscrolled aspalta lvl 90 that died before ult.
i simply chained my CC

[mental thunder]

https://tenor.com/view/fatsa-buggs-bunny-pavlis-papadopavlos-gif-18032290

tamar bs thanks for nothing lol

[hollow fiber]

cc abuse

sara forced it with Ghul

[mental thunder]

i bet she did

this ghul pops my zharloth in one ult

its ridiculous

trying to manipulate ult and chain cc... nothin

300+ acc before affinity on every unit and i cant reduce ultimate? lol?

[jovial ermine]

Im also stuck at 59 i asked if Veyr could take over my account and finish it

[mental thunder]

https://tenor.com/view/fatsa-buggs-bunny-pavlis-papadopavlos-gif-18032290

[frozen hemlock]

just pulled this dude named thelendor

[mental thunder]

except you cant bc lydia is there...

so again, tamar enjoyer bs bc you strip the immunity.

[hollow fiber]

huh?

lydia only does it on her ult

once you go first cc never stops

[mental thunder]

yeah but you arent CCing her without tamar full screen...

[hollow fiber]

well that's skill issue

[mental thunder]

bc you have to focus back row or you die

[hollow fiber]

just assassinate backline that's what i did last season

[mental thunder]

this crap makes me want to uninstall game

for real

[jovial ermine]

No im issue skills i have top team but still lose

[radiant comet]

From what i've seen, Estella is actually a solid healer now

[real meadow]

Does anyone have any good ideas about a fire/poison team for the fire domain?

[round wagon]

Um none...

All there damage gets nerfed.

[round wagon]

Yeah probably, just don't have her.

[radiant comet]

Don't you take a lot more damage with fire/poison units there and deal less too?
So definitely worth using another team if possible

[radiant comet]

Ah sorry, didn't see the roster post

[round wagon]

Sorry, will post it after work.

[real meadow]

Sorry I meant for the E Domain Fire boss, not the fire gem dungeon

I'm rocking Horrus with Ancestral, Adolphus with Three Ears, a Heks, Errich, and like a 300 Accuracy Sigrid

They take 50% more damage from fire and poison sources in Elemental Domain - Fire

[round wagon]

??

Not certain about what the E domain boss is.

But I like Dane/Sigrid combo

Furbrath also helps with defense down

[plush thicket]

Seriously level a second team. Like at level 70 I'm doing 6/7s cause Im using teams that arent the same affinity.

Also enna is the secret to clearing fire, with enough skill haste/incense she can cleanse every round.

Unless you have someone better.

But like level 100s with t4 gear you should be clearing 12s

[round wagon]

Oh.. And there is also Fitz!

Spouting profanities all willy nilly!

[real meadow]

I miscommunicated earlier - I meant the otherworld fire domain boss

[plush thicket]

OW/Continental youd have to post your roster.

[onyx lintel]

@plush thicket Hey buddy does puppets apply to the wearer as well?

[plush thicket]

Nope

[real meadow]

This is what I'm working with currently.

[elder swift]

Is Energy Harvester %ATK gloves better than crit% or crit damage gloves?

[tall vigil]

Could someone help with lvl 58 of pillar I cant get past the first round

[plush thicket]

Fire boss honestly just whatever youve got with ranged, and a tank and healer up front so auster leaves the dps alone. Just go for best youve got.

Also when you post these do them by affinity pairings, makes it easier.

You've seen Gorax's video, correct?

[plush thicket]

Daph with heal chest, Ozul, Taldie with witch. Zhar should be enough healing, esp with Organ. Id go Fathomdown cause he self heals over irma but really any tank should work at that point. Main thing is keep Ozul alive. If zhar isnt working out, try Estella.

1-2 puppeteer sets. 1 should be enough if Ozul and Daph are geared well. 2 could help more.

IF youre running two, its the rest of your gear thats the problem, go back to Venom for a bit.

You may have to manual Daph if you have zhar in there, she targets highest attack

[tall vigil]

Thank you will try this out, the main thing is ozul dying he is geared very well but just dies

[plush thicket]

Puppeteer and daph with heal chest.

[tall vigil]

Puppeteer on daph?

[plush thicket]

Like throw puppeteer on your tank and/or healer.

[plush thicket]

Naw DPS set, I do full out attack on her.

[tall vigil]

Okay got ya will build them up and have a crack after work! Really appreciate the help

[real meadow]

I have not, what video are you referring to?

[neat berry]

Is this a good team for gob 2-5. still cant clear it 3 stars

[plush thicket]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4hhqmpNIvU

There is at least 10 other CC videos on these bosses from s1, tbh - prolly like 20+. Its worth a tour through youtube for

[mental thunder]

If you are using frurb as your melee fine but i hate his battle skill positioning randomly; oggok has no place on goblin team though

Healing is mot necessary; just kill them

[fleet sail]

Yup, the most healing you need is like... usha shielding herself

and even that is overkill

any melee with over 1k defense is gonna do fine as a meatshield at goblin max level

[real meadow]

Thank you very much!

[boreal quartz]

i am stuck on queen sivesta
can anyone help me on how to defeat her

[fleet sail]

frurbath, heksandra and 3 AOE damage dealers. Ignore the boss, hit the adds. Autoattacks will kill her.

sigrid's a good dps for it

[boreal quartz]

sigrid, main character and eli good?

[fleet sail]

MC is a no go

letalis is better

You want a

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``` shaped aoe

so it hits all 3+ adds

[boreal quartz]

ok so sigrid, letalis, eli or is there anyone who can swap out with eli?

[fleet sail]

Iola, zhar'loth, Twitch

[strange fox]

I am running Frurbath, Dane, Sigrid, heks and Voresh/Aschetius

[fleet sail]

Voresh

vidimir and rava also tear them apart

[strange fox]

Dane is mvp thx to dispel buff. Voresh can buff prohib, but I like Dane more

[fleet sail]

If you're in legendary gear you can ignore the def up buff completely and still wipe the adds

[strange fox]

I couldn’t the last season. Have to go with dispel

[boreal quartz]

i got dane and voresh as well, il try both and see how it goes

[fleet sail]

I did it just fine with vidimir sigrid rava frurbath heksandra(can be replaced with a 4th dps if your frurbath is stacked with enough defense to heal through boss aoes

It's really not a hard boss

people usually just don't know how to build dps when they first encounter her so they're not prioritizing crit, or tossing too much accuracy on sigrid

[strange fox]

I real like your idea with using vidimir and rava

[fleet sail]

Only issue with vidi and rava is the middle add dies faster so you need a cleaner like sigrid

to melt the remaining two on low health

[strange fox]

I was struggling little bit before but as you said, when you know what to do, then it is easy

[boreal quartz]

i should build dps with high crit rate, cd right

[strange fox]

My main problem is when I find solution to some problems, I kinda stick to that solution. So I like when I learn something new such as that frost combo used for this boss

CRIT is the name of the dps game. Get at least around 90 crit. Then you will see your dmg fly high

[boreal quartz]

what epic or rare artifacts do u recommend on dps? i cant get legendary artifacts yet, i am S1 still

[crystal cargo]

Hello I just started today. Are these four + Mc good enough to tackle goblin lair?

[strange fox]

Eyeball is great. Then Horseshoe when you got high crits already. Then crit cup. Eyeball is def safe bet. Then also look for crown of unclean and incense burner

[fleet sail]

early goblin lair you run whatever you have

but eventually you'll want either a sigrid based comp, or frost based like vidimir+rava, for goblin

[crystal cargo]

Ok thanks

The basic idea is to stick to a comp and level as far as I can and later transfer the level to better units?

With this

[fleet sail]

for the start, yes

Eventually you'll have way more than 1 team

And just because no one ever reads... There is a seasonal reset

Champs go back to level 1 (but keep skill level), gear disappears, but you keep dice, wyrmarrow

This happens every 3~ish months

so it's a race to the top to compete for resources, rinse repeat

[crystal cargo]

Got it thanks

[elder swift]

Is Enerby Harvester useful for a DPS?

[onyx lintel]

It's kinda there to help min max dps when you also need to maximize haste

But look at it this way, if you have Hourglass arti and +80 haste it's 2700 atk. Pretty huge

[elder swift]

Yeah, but when does it justify not using crit rate when you don't have 100%, or crit damage when you do? Also you can't really have +80 haste from gear, you'd need to perfect X4 rolls to get +60 from runes, and from gear sets you can only get +20.

[radiant comet]

So this is my current team for vortex. Finally got Catherine booked to replace Quarion and was hoping to get some advice on timings for all of them please.
Also what would be the best artifacts for them? I currently have the following:
Catherine: Mirror
Nimbus: Crown
Sutha: Horseshoe
Schaltar: Vile Ink
Garius: Heart or banner
Any tips for pushing out more damage would be greatly appreciated.

[small shell]

Hi guys, pls helppp , I can not pass this lv, I’ve tried for last few days different teams to fight with and I died all the time … I am stuck badly ,what am I missing? How to win this ?!

[onyx lintel]

If you have Shagrol I would use him instead of Nimbus

[twilit garden]

Hi, i was in the same spot and i make this lvl using sunt sets with aoe champions. 2 tanks with aoe if possible, and 3 dps (preferently with heals or shields) all with aoe and stun sets.

Gumm is a very good one choice here... both attacks are aoe and have blind and stun.. with the stun set on... he will make half work done by himself in this battle

Anyone could help me with with final boss teams? I´m in S1 and the dragon starts in a couple of days... any suggest for all 6 teams?

[radiant comet]

Unfortunately i do not

[small shell]

Thanks a lot, this is the only fight that’s giving me a headache, I will try now … if I succeed (I hope) drinks are on me 👍😅

[twilit garden]

tanks in a corner and the rest in the other... the idea is all enemies stay as close as possible so aoe keep them stuned most time

[small shell]

Oki, let see what I can do about it 👍

[steel harness]

Hello, can I start this account on the server opened today?

[hollow talon]

Looks good

[errant river]

Can i get help for this level in season 1 fey meander stage 165?

Heres my line up….

Please help guys im so stuck

[lunar fable]

9 days to s3 final boss. Who else should I be building?

[plush thicket]

Try swapping crown on nimbus vs sutha. Sutha tends to work well on this because while Nimbus gives def down longer, its easier to just 70% crit Sutha and let him fly with crown. Timing is easy, just time sutha (crown) after Schalty and then Nimbus after Sutha. Basically it goes Schalty, crown, dps

Banner on Garius
If you still have book, book on Catherine but Mirror can stay if not.

Timing: Try catherine at 15/20 and Garius at 21.4, 25.7, 27.4, 29.7. One of the 4 should work for garius. If catherine is timing weird, back her up by .1 seconds (14.9, etc) till she times where you need her.

[plush thicket]

Stun sets. like Fede says. And yea Gumm is a great character, like Iola, for stun sets. But put stun sets on everyone.

[plush thicket]

Search youtube for team ideas. Not kidding. Theres a ton of stuff by CCs.

Main thing is the dragons skills.

So ulti up and ulti down skills basically wreck this boss. Huldork was basically "Meh" to useless, where now hes an mvp even unscrolled. Everything else is healers+DPS and def down tank and spank. AOE + sign can hit all 3 targets and do more damage. Really comes down to what artis you have to create what comps - like if you have hourglass, you run corrin+horace and score big, etc.

[plush thicket]

You mean like transfer servers or are you asking if your rolls are good?

[plush thicket]

Stun sets and Elecebre = cheat mode.

Elecebre, Ghul, Zhar, Voresh, Elvis. I dont think you have Zhar so just use whoever you want that aoes, Id probably try Hochadir or chuck in estella or meggan for another healer/quasi tank healer (like literally, put them up there with elvis left and right)

Other option is run 3 affinity, Garius, Gumm, Voresh, Iola, and Elvis or whoever else you want that does disruption.

Keep mind you get 10 mintues to clear it, its okay if the damage sucks, but you still want like 3-4 people on stun sets just mowing through everything with aoe and stuns. As long as people stay alive, attrition wins because most of these fights they don't have enemy healers. So when in doubt, add in another healer and just slow mow them down.

[plush thicket]

Bro we dont even know what the final boss does in s3.

[steel harness]

İs my Rolls good ?

[plush thicket]

Yes. Fru, Ghul, Zhar, Tonalnan, are all core characters.

Dork, Estella are solid too. Ergander is good, but Fru is better for general pve.

Like Id be happy with that start. Especially cause Fru.

[hybrid gorge]

Im just an idiot back then, i exchange it on s2😫

[errant river]

Thanks i will try this and let you know. 😀👍🏼

[agile quarry]

Help. Stuck at 167

[balmy compass]

Full burst and heal prohibition

[radiant comet]

Thank you.
I actually went with timings close to all of those except i still had the crown on Nimbus at the time.
So use Nimbus as the dps and not Sutha then? I had thought it would be the other way around but will give that a shot later.
Thanks again.

Oh and are you saying to use the blue quality book instead of the mirror?

[rose jetty]

Dont use multi hit hero too.

[worn jasper]

S2. Looking at curse 9. What should I run?
Tried a few comps but I could use some advice.

[vernal holly]

Pics below show my roster and my current dragon teams. Any advice on who I could build up/swap to improve performance?

Server merge is on 31/5, and there’s nothing more to do for me but this and vortex

[plush thicket]

Yes the gospel
And yea it’s worth trying to see who performs better sutha vs nimbus

[fleet sail]

Sutha usually for me, if scrolled

Nimbus does his job just fine as a witch's user since he's just there to hit to proc others' damage

[radiant comet]

I would have thought the mirror was better because it gives more healing when it matters?

[radiant comet]

What artifact do you use for Sutha?

[fleet sail]

horseshoe, goblet, or music box depending on what gear I have available

[radiant comet]

Thank you. Guess i just have to fine tune their gear now then.
I've not had much luck with getting the pieces i need but that's normal.

[spring wren]

I'm struggling on lvl 143 Fey Meander vs this team. Anything I put up dies before they get off any ultimate

[worn jasper]

Any ideas for curse? S2. I can farm 8 but either my timings or something G else is off for 9

[leaden fern]

Shall I go for Scharlach, Thia, Meggan or Irina? I want to progress in grave of venom and grave of curse

[fleet sail]

Irina's the only one out of those 4 that you're going to want to use for general use.

[mental thunder]

scharlach is trash, thia is more pvp and niche boss / flame domain usable... meggan is for sure a venom unit and universally useful. irina is good in curse and in general. but it depends on what your teams are and what other units you have. drop entire roster if you need advice

[golden smelt]

Whats ur lineup for 8? U could use the same lineup, maybe its just ur equipments and affinity

[mental thunder]

just click the helmet icon and sort by affinity please, it is hard to read this... and that isnt your entire roster

[mental thunder]

for venom just run horrus up front, meggan, voresh, sigrid, heksandra. make heksandra tanky and put her right up next to horrus (below him) and spread out everyone else. that should be fine. need accuracy on sigrid to land attack down but she needs to be your damage, voresh needs defense down artifact

you are also leveling a lot of weird units with little synergy... #1202625010984820806 go read my guide

[leaden fern]

Isn't viccuc better than heksandra in every way possible?

[mental thunder]

no?

[leaden fern]

I thought so

[mental thunder]

dont know where you got that from

[jovial ermine]

Many s1 did mislead about it...

[leaden fern]

I was just reading skill descriptions

[mental thunder]

did you click Details to see the scaling on the heals?

because heks actually scales and can heal a lot, vicuc is locked to how much hp your units have... which at that point is super low

meaning he's going to do nothing but cleanse and wipe them down with a wet paper towel when they skin their knees

[jovial ermine]

[leaden fern]

oh makes sense thank you

[mental thunder]

heks cleanses 1 debuff from her target of battle skill and is a heavy heal, so for venom you need meggan to cleanse the defense down from boss and push horrus ult, heks just topping his hp off so he doesnt die

and heks there to tank the bottom orb for horrus

[leaden fern]

you mean right orb by bottom?

[mental thunder]

yes

[leaden fern]

ty I'll try

[mental thunder]

curse you'd have to use traveler in ice mode for shields but otherwise basically same team. remove heks or meggan, time voresh ult before second set of buffs (~10-12 seconds into boss gauge) so he blocks the buffs. then basically ice traveler with super high attack adds shields just before boss ults and sigrid ults to apply attack down while defense down is up and before boss ults... make sure people tanky enough to survive

[vernal holly]

Any Ideas?

[mental thunder]

could maybe even drop horrus and run meggan there instead so you get more healing. horrus doing basically nothing in curse

[plush thicket]

Like only if it’s same level try it

[worn jasper]

I was using grover... I don't remember the now . I'll go clear 8 with something and come back for some advice 😄

[golden smelt]

If ur Dane is scrolled, use him instead of Grover

[radiant comet]

Gave it a shot and my damage dropped by just over 1mil.
I'm sure my damage isn't where it should be with such a team but still learning and farming dungeons to get the gear i need.
Unfortunately thousands of energy on some of them and still not the drops i need.

[plush thicket]

Yea if the mirror is working better for you, so be it, I had lots of different kinds of results (as did others) mirror vs gospel s0/s1, it was a hard debate with a lot of us.

[radiant comet]

I hope it doesn't come across as not appreciating your advice because i'll always listen and give it a shot.
That's the sort of reason i ask the questions because i know people like you have already done the testing and it's greatly appreciated!

[real meadow]

I swapped my Ripekas out for an Irma and was able to clear OW Necro 5, the key was putting an hourglass on my Thia so the invis could pop off to keep the backline safe from targeting. Feels good man

[plush thicket]

Noooo you're solid. Its why I said try as opposed to totally sure.

DPS especially, there is a lot that comes down to gear. There is some stuff that just does or does not work are certain levels of defense, hp, your healer's skill haste, etc. Its why you can run nearly the same stuff and get diff results than others. So a lot of the high level suggestions will be: Try this vs this, one is gonna be better, but know your options.

Same thing with testing: Dont be afraid to run the same thing, especially vortex, 3-4 times before crossing it off the list. I ran into that s2, turned out my first two runs were just flukes, then suddenly Im lasting 170-200 stacks instead of 130.

[radiant comet]

I definitely appreciate the "try this vs this" advice because like you say it can work out different for each person due to slight gearing differences.
For example i kept reading that Nail is better than the Horseshoe for Sutha but i've been getting more damage with the Horseshoe.
I know i must be doing something wrong though because i scraped just under 40mil with my team and i hear of people doing so mcuh more.

[worn jasper]

Curse 8 lineup was garius, elminster, Dane, shinah, gerthin
Garrius goes down in 9 then it's over. Sometimes Dane only dispels 1 buff, with over 220 acc. I dunno

Elminster shield doesn't always get up before the ult, which hurts pretty bad. May need a few more points in skill haste.
I think my timers are messed I too though.

[spring wren]

I finally got past this using Sagomir, Ardreth, Garius, Rose and Huberg. Used the horn, staff, remains, eyeball and incense burner.. Stacked as much skillhaste as I could on everyone. Maybe someone else can use this build for help

[vernal holly]

Would really appreciate some insight from experienced players here… am I missing anything?

[plush thicket]

So nail works "fine" with sutha if youre 100% crit focused. Horseshoe statistically, 100% or 70% crit version of sutha should always outdamage it, but gearing can severely affect that. But in a "great gearing" scenario that horseshoe should work out better.

[plush thicket]

So the boss' skills dictate this the heaviest. Ulti manipulation (up or down) matters a LOT for getting the most out of scores.

Examples:

Ice team is likely good enough, but if you had Dork or Trolgar, you could dump more stacks off the boss, and do more damage

Fire team is great cause Felicity. However ditch Rhash, put crown/witch on Errich, let Felicity fly, and time Tonlanan with Errich.

Rally looks fine. I still debate if Wellby does better damage than Gituna, but - Id be exploring a better slot than gituna for someone who can reliably apply witch/crown and see if damage goes up.

Dauntless are dauntless, is what it is. Still debate a 4th dauntless and putting crown on Shaggy.

Poison team however is not great. Horace excels with actual posion application, theres a chance Jijel could outdamage him, and in theory, Letalis is wasted here because you Should have all the debuffs you need from Ergander. Youd also be better off with Eli applying crown/witch consistently. If you're just going for star pattern hits, not sure what you could do diff tbh.

Necro squad who knows man. Prolly looks good. Istarian does better dps for me than Joyce but I dunno if his dragon survives the whole way, and typically Id get better damage outta a Zadok comp if you have him.

[vernal holly]

Thanks a lot! Will try Erich instead of Rhash and see how it changes. Re: poison team: letalis is there for the ultimate reduction, also tried Eli and Dench instead of Horace but that didn’t change much… summon team: need Joyce to boost damage from Scharlach…

[plush thicket]

Yea fair I keep forgetting he has that. I'm shocked Eli didnt do better than Horace, but is what it is.

[vernal holly]

Who would you drop for a 4th dauntless from that team? Also: any experience on whether shaltar+ivellios+1 high frequency attacker is better than only ivellios plus two attackers?

[plush thicket]

Re: Poison again, I looked up my stats and I hit 50m with eli sigrid jijel BUT I also had witches so that mighta been it, or just that I had amazing Gambler sets.

4th Id drop Gituna. And you have to try - it really comes down to gearing and artifacts for Schalty+Ivellios vs Ivellios only. Schalty does have a 2 second attack time.