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[ebon fossil]

but there are situations where you can get away with atk, crit

[elder swift]

also I'm actually getting better results from the staff with him than with the tome, because he double heals then

in terms of survuvability for my time

[ebon fossil]

it depends on what you need really

[tidal sun]

Replying to myself but just to get the order right for a good Ice team. Who should I build first? Rava and then Usha or someone else as second hero? Voresh is now at 5 stars ...

[ebon fossil]

tome gives a thicker shield... so you could probably last longer in vortex when you get that big burst of dmg

staff gives more heals in between so you can sustain more

[red lintel]

yo guys does this look like a good comp for pillar
?

[mental thunder]

yeah i like staff on adolphus too, it helps cycle his battle skill faster also

and i use him to tank ab9 as my resist unit in back and he works fine; just hard to spread his stats appropriately

what are you tanking with him?

[elder swift]

mekkatorque

[mental thunder]

god no.

[elder swift]

Mekkatorque with summons

[mental thunder]

alvis supreme trash, dwarf is trash too. wellby is fine and you'd need quarion in there to assist catherine in heals

[mental thunder]

yeah should be ok but issue is adolphus will get hit by spawning orbs bc he is ranged and doesnt move forward; that is the only reason to have a melee tank bc it wont get hit by orb damage themselves; which means they can take the damage off ranged with ancestral for longer

like an irma + adolphus would be better

[elder swift]

Martina goes well with Hegio

[mental thunder]

i dont like melee with pillar

hegio you can manual jump him out of the way of damage from elemental on boss, but wellby is a better choice

[elder swift]

I managed to survive the 8 minutes now after playing around with the setups

[tidal sun]

@viscid dirge Here are my ice heroes; except for Voresh I have not built any of them so far. So first Rava, then Usha or someone else?

[red lintel]

made adjustments
this is all my epics for this sinergy have all rares

[mental thunder]

that would be relatively strong but you also have no defense down.... you dont have iola?

[red lintel]

i ish

[mental thunder]

iola would work in place of quarion and hold defense down for you plus you could rotate attack down

[mental thunder]

voresh, rava, usha, sigrid, vidimir = pro goblin team

[red lintel]

i choose clovis cause eh has attk down dont kno ho good he is

[mental thunder]

garius is clearly a better tank but clovis with a healer works

[tidal sun]

Thank you! I will build the heroes in the order you have listed.

[elder swift]

But if I use a melee tank shouldn't I place them on the right, so they can AoE the orbs? Like Horrus for example

Then it screws up with the sweep doesn't it

[mental thunder]

if they dont have debuffs, i doubt they are doing much damage with ult as a tank anyway

[elder swift]

They do have debuffs though

Or doesn't that sweeping hit not matter much

[mental thunder]

horrus does not have debuff on his ult

so unless you already have debuffs applied, his damage isnt going to be important

[elder swift]

Why wouldn't I have debuffs applied?

[mental thunder]

My point is you are talking about horrus damage like min maxing that is important when you dont even need a real tank as you know; what are we even talking about

[red lintel]

What about any of these ?

[mental thunder]

Irma provides damage reduction around her so if you werent surviving 8 min with just adolphus tank i think her with AP set on is better with adolphus to reduce damage

But you are surviving 8 min so who cares

[mental thunder]

Shagrol is a jumper for arena and vani isnt going to cover damage for you. Irina is another attack down but single hit so not going to be any better at applying defense down than any single hit ult unit with accuracy. Iola is multiple hits

If you dont have iola just forget her

Quarion prob going to keep you alive longer… irina might help clear multiple enemies but this team isnt getting to 60 pillar regardless

[red lintel]

I was thinking i could use irina with witches remain, and also have both atk down from her and clovis
isnt this aoe ?

[mental thunder]

Maybe 40.

Dude it is a single hit ult not multiple, just being aoe doesnt cover what you need to land defense down when the chance is only 60%

[frigid ledge]

Can anybody that has done this fight recommend a strategy? 😆

Season 1

[mental thunder]

Hegio worked for me there. I jump him on the right with defense down and he slowly kills with his ult. Vidimir also worked nicely with rava applying frost… both on stun sets.

[red lintel]

Ohh i see, i thought it something like voresh ult

[mental thunder]

Lol read the two ults they arent anything alike

[red lintel]

my bad, i make the mistake of assuming that aor means multiple hits

[red lintel]

So this would be my best i can do?

[mental thunder]

There are a few types of aoe… square, full screen and diamond shapes. Then you have number of hits. Then you have % of debuff chance to land

Irina is square single hit, 100% to land attack down if she is scrolled… but defense down on witches is 60% when maxed so isnt guaranteed on a single hit. More hits = more chances to land it

Iola is diamond shape with 3 hits, 100% attack down

So she would have 3 chances to land defense down from witches

You can try with quarion and irina and decide which works best

Iola would be ideal, so would garius over clovis

[red lintel]

I get it, thx for explaining.

[red lintel]

just pulled vicuc, thought of using him, and decide to make a pillar team with him, looks solid, what do you think guys?

[mental thunder]

he's ok, good for cleanse but his heal isnt super strong

without legendary artifacts, his heals wont be able to carry you. with heks he is basically offheals and cleanse. that could be an ok fey and pillar team early on but will fade out at the later levels when it is really difficult

[waxen sparrow]

Hey I would be grateful for any reccomendations on goblin team and ooze. Thank you!

[severe cedar]

• Letalis

[waxen sparrow]

Thank you! I read somwhere usha is also good for goblins as tank is that viable or should i just stick to your suggestion and reset others while i can?

[mental thunder]

if you have an actual frost enabler with her sure, but you dont

'so just use frurb for now

you may want to just reset rowena also and use that xp elsewhere

on iola*

[waxen sparrow]

I assume then that Olgan sucks and so does Vojeh and Gusni. Is that correct?

[mental thunder]

well olgan is a melee, vojeh and gusni are single hit ults... so all 3 going to be not what you want

rava is the one you want; dorkruz is 3rd rate but passable hybrid... lossenia lego is best

[waxen sparrow]

Very informative. Thank you so much! One last question if I may. Any chance I can beat ooze with 2 eyes at the moment with some lineup?

[mental thunder]

no

2 items is whale territory

in epic gear.

just do it tomorrow, iola, frurbath, sigrid, fire or ice MC and heksandra if you need heals to keep you alive

[open dagger]

Trying to see what's worth leveling for pillar and Chief Challenge

[open dagger]

Also..Looking to level a tank for pillar. I have Ripekas and Eurion

[severe dune]

This thing is tough can't seems to beat this smh

[balmy compass]

Yeah it's really boring team, you need to deal with the bakcline first and quickly

[feral ingot]

i got a few leg heros whisk, aspalta, ozul, stanguem,sutha...which should i upgrade first? which are useful i mean 🙂

i kinda like Whisk so far, haven't tried others

[plush thicket]

What else you got going, just those?

[plush thicket]

Ripekas is good for end of pillars so not a bad idea to run him. Him+Stun sets = win

[feral ingot]

i want to make corrosion team with whisk but no idea about others

[plush thicket]

Fey? s2 or 3?

[feral ingot]

i got lots of new s3 heros dropped, no info about em online even

[feral ingot]

its a game of try and hit, learn. progress.....but so difficult!

[plush thicket]

Need rook really, hes the only one who exploits it well. However, if you really want to stick with plain corrosion, Gragrir is the wish version of Rook, you can try Whisk, Gragrir, and Genu or Dargo (I like dargo), or use all 4.

[feral ingot]

nice thanks for sharing!

[plush thicket]

But really you could also drop Gragrir and just see what the others do

[feral ingot]

what about the other guys i got, any good?

[plush thicket]

Ozul and aspalta will work for you in general pve/pillars, and well in pvp. The main combo is aspalta+daphne, with ozul being even more awesome on top. However, Taldie can work instead of Daphne

Stanguem should just be removed from the game, very slight use cases, she needs a redo.

Sutha is standard part of dauntless teams.

[feral ingot]

awesome! thank you! i got the pic 🙂

i don't wanna do dauntless team, i read it is worthless. corrosion and ice blast, ftw! 🙂

[plush thicket]

I dunno where you read that, but delete that website immediately.

[feral ingot]

i only get troubles with high level Graves

really? dauntless is good?

im not PVP guy either

all i want all graves on level 8 and pillar finished lol

[plush thicket]

Top comps are IB, Dauntless, Corrosion. Due to rook, Corrosion blows everyone away.

Dauntless will always be good when built right. Ideally, with Ivellios, but Schaltar works fine in the right fights. Add in Nimbus (or other dauntless legos) and youre solid.

[plush thicket]

You are now with your shadow team lol

[feral ingot]

yes i am sir 🙂

[feral ingot]

PVP in general is easy, just blast, no need healers

[feral ingot]

i but ive never been above level 5

[plush thicket]

Well for s3, you're looking at staffgar+ardeth for a while to survive venom, or at least two tanks for a while with a healer. Venom 9 is very doable at 100 with the right gear and team, otherwise its gonna be level 8ish for a bit till you level up.

Curse is standard as s2, easy to hit 9 with staffgar, just have someone to remove the debuffs.

Rot is same method with debuff immunities and fitz

Heretical is the easiest - focus on single target damage to kill the birds asap, later on youll have the gear to 30 second the boss or less.

AB is also a nightmare yet again this season, really depends on all of your unlocks, focus on no buffers or do the full defense team later when you have the gear (Staffgar, Syn, Ardeth, 2 dps that don't buff)

[plush thicket]

Well higher level pvp gets weirder, but overall just build shadow with zharloth and a tank for now.

Mostly with the dungeons in s3 do not depending on debuffs to save you from anything except in venom, because all of the bosses now purge debuffs. So voresh and etc tricks dont work anymore.

[feral ingot]

dam

voresh used to be a mega hero

[plush thicket]

Still is in pvp, venom, and goblin. And still in ele dungeons.

[feral ingot]

can i share with you my roster so u recommend who to upgrade? i can DM

[plush thicket]

Yea go ahead and dm man.

[feral ingot]

ok gimme a sec will do screenshot

[proud quail]

Hey guys, S3 Continental Challenge starts in 1 week for me. Any tips on my 6 comps? Ice and Rad seem pretty much solved, and maybe poison, but the others I'm unsure of

I especially would like advice on fire. Do I need aoe (burn) like s2 or just single target (wild)?

[plush thicket]

Single target.

Also, go to Hypsudo and Gorax's youtube pages. Straight up both did an excellent job on the s3 bosses.

[proud quail]

comps so far:
Ice: Beldelly, Bleddyn, Feenja, Eurion, Nord/Voresh
Rad: Garius, Gillian, Alton, Huberg, Philto/Phaessa
Lightning: Nimbus, Vani, Nathaniel, Stang, Tamar/Iola
Necro: Ripekas, Ghulende, Thia, Meggan, Zharloth/Questa
Poison: Sigrid, Oggok, Frurbath, Twitch, Sacredeia

[proud quail]

Then this leads to my next question: I would Ideally do Burn Trio + Adolphus + tank, but who should the trio be? a combo of Felicity, Errich, Tonalnan, and Caspar

felicity is the only lego there scrolled, and Errich seems like an obvious choice for witches remains, so I guess that means scrolled tonalnan vs unscrolled caspar

[plush thicket]

So Felicity, Errich, Tonalanan is definitely working for a lot of us. An alliance mate of mine did a test of Felicity vs Caspar both built right, Felicity won out but it was CLOSE. Can't go wrong either way.

[plush thicket]

This is correct. Some people put witch on tonalnan but Ive gotten best results with Errich on witch and Tonalnan as DPS.

[proud quail]

k ty ❤️

[open dagger]

@plush thicket Thank you!

Am I correct that if I didn't get Elminster in S1, he can't ever be obtained?

[fleet sail]

So far there's no plans to return them

[open dagger]

Meh, alright then. I could have sworn he had a mid rating when I looked into him but he's very highly rated now

[fleet sail]

He's very skippable

Not an insane "don't ever stop using this unit" unit.

but he's still solid and people who got him can probably use him in a bunch of places.

[open dagger]

Ok well good lol, I appreciate it

[fleet sail]

so really all you missed out on is a discounted middle of the road leggo

[open dagger]

Haha thank you 😊

I'm going to have to play the dice lottery. Mamba helped me get my invincible timing worked out but I lack DPS

I can barely break 22m on vortex. I need a better single dps (Felicity, Tonolan, Errich)

..to replace Errich

[tight lintel]

For best DPS on Vortex or other boss using Rally team,
Do I need to build Alton or Heberg?
Or Thelendor (with his Arti) + Philto and Lorentheel as enabler will do.

[zenith river]

Are there any poison or wild teams in here that would do better in vortex than the rally team I run?

[rare parcel]

Don't think so. Tonalnan was a big single target dmg dealer for me

And you're missing her

[zenith river]

Yeah I’m just now clearing venom9, heretic9 and curse8. Trying to see if there’s anyone I should be investing in while I farm gear.

Thanks for the response!

[strong remnant]

is this guy good?

[rare parcel]

He's very good single target DPS especially with Shaltar/Ivellios

[oblique tide]

What would be the best idea for a Rally team for the S3 chaos shadows boss? Thelendor has his own artifact, and I was thinking of using Garius and Isolde as tank/support. Tathlyn will still buff Thelendor, could combine those with Philto, but Hegio and Wellby might also be good. Can't really experiment because I lack the resources to do so.

[shell gull]

Philto with Hegio is working fine

[somber ivy]

Garius does not work for this boss. There are two reasons. First, the boss does not hit him so his stack of defense boosts does not grow. Second, boss deals big damage all 20 seconds so after shield run out your dps have a problem. Also you can't run two tanks as you need one support at the back with high resistance (although there is a way to circumvent this).

[naive cliff]

Team suggestion any?

[mental thunder]

I didnt realize there were mechanics to that boss… “just use aura team” for 30-40m without paying attention lol

[mental thunder]

For what?

[naive cliff]

I am at s1 so i guess first just a good basic farm team or anything i have no clue actually

[mental thunder]

Well you showed misc random heroes and not all of them so idk how to help you

Like if you asked for a good goblin, venom, curse, rot or specific domain team sure maybe but still need to see all units you have

[oblique tide]

Unfortunately I don't have any legendary Aura (glad I don't wasted my luck on Lincos though)

[oblique tide]

Here's what I got, what do you think? Using Ardreth and Synarell on the fire chaos shadows boss currently, but I can switch it around

[somber ivy]

Garius is perfect on fire boss (as long as you have staff and somebody to dispel boss buffs) so you put him there and move Ardreth to radiance boss. And with right gear Synarell alone might be enough healing on fire boss. If Ardreth not enough you can add Catherine as extra healer/stun target. Plus someone to apply def break (I use Gumm and he's fine) and Hegio plus Philto or Thelendor. I run similar team and easy 35M without mythic gloves.

[oblique tide]

Synarell fills Garius' function basically; he's the better version when he doesn't need to fully tank for sure. I think I can manage Synarell to heal enough on his own, I did that last week as well (with Thelendor in the team instead of Ardreth). I'll try to see whether I can use just Ardreth, but the issue is that attack down is fairly rare. Gumm gives attack penalty I.

Also Thelendor with the exclusive artifact is an absolute beast so for sure I will use him; is he better paired with Hegio than Tathlyn as well?

[proud iron]

guys i need help.
I was building new vortex team with my fresh oggok but it worst than shadow with broken affinity...

i was planning to use oggok felosia gerthin zhorak sinnah

or proly it's my timer who are bad...

i can replace some support i got frubarth fenja too

[mental thunder]

i guess it depends; if you using oggok main tank with highest hp, you are going to sacrifice some enlight so his heals wont be as good. i dont have oggok myself @hollow fiber does though and can prob help with vortex timer for immortality. i would think you'd use it at like 19, 18 so you absorb first hit and big hit with immortality then heal up, felosia shield before the defense down hit?

[hollow fiber]

who summoned me

[hollow fiber]

top teams using felosia/frurbath because frurbath ha sbetter horn uptime and oggok is not needed since felosia lets you live past 8 minutes at which point boss ignores immortality anyway

[mental thunder]

that's logical i think, if only i had felosia.

[proud iron]

felosia with vest proly

[hollow fiber]

oh you need help?

[proud iron]

i do not have vest

[hollow fiber]

i was responding to corupt

[proud iron]

i use elmin artifact 😢

[hollow fiber]

do you live 8 minutes

[mental thunder]

it was for corrupt, i was just agreeing with you that makes sense

[proud iron]

hell no

i die way earlier

[mental thunder]

i personally only live 5 min and do like 55m

[hollow fiber]

well we can fix that np

oggok timer for Tank + cleanse is easy

[mental thunder]

but i'm a vicuc enjoyer

[hollow fiber]

but you won't live longer than 8 min prolly

[proud iron]

so proly better felo / frub right ?

even without vest ?

[hollow fiber]

nah it might be oggok then if you die early

oggok will save you

just do oggok 30.5 /20

that will immune the thunderbolt the boss does and will also cleanse Def penalty

felosia can take care of the rest no problem

[proud iron]

good i'll try later

[hollow fiber]

if you can live longer than 8 minutes with frurbath tho hes better

cuz of horn uptime , if you have horn

[proud iron]

you are true friends ❤️

[somber ivy]

The problem with Tath is sometimes she gives rally to herself instead of ally. Hegio always gives to ally plus I suppose he deals more damage. But then Tath has 3 hit ult so can carry witch's.

[hollow fiber]

My felosia/Frurbath lives 9 min 30 seconds but that's vest and 2x puppeteer set

oggok will guarantee you to live up to 8 minutes for sure

[oblique tide]

I believe Hegio can also give it to non-Rally allies though, Tathlyn doesn't

[somber ivy]

Only if there are no rally allies. Never had him give rally to anyone except my Philto when run together.

[oblique tide]

Oh in that case that sounds good lol

[somber ivy]

I mean Thelendor with arti does not need rally that badly as Philto. It sure is boost but not required. So Tath might be solid option as well especially if you have no one better for defense break. You may even be able to run all 3 of them.

[proud iron]

i hope so, i have to manage he got mor heal than gerthin

that a bit challenging versus fey artifact >_<

[hollow fiber]

you have horn no ?

[proud iron]

oh yeah with horn it will be easly

[oblique tide]

Okay, thanks for the advice 😄

[proud iron]

i was playing with enlight artifact (yellow cristal)

[hollow fiber]

nah for vortex don't need that

[proud iron]

kk

[hollow fiber]

horn = more dmg

[proud iron]

perfect

[hollow fiber]

with that timer you should be safe

well you will be safe cuz u can't die from the boss hit ^^

you can prolly do
felosia 21.5/20
oggok 30.5/20

tell me how it works out

[proud iron]

ruuning i'll check it later i need to work 👀

i die stack 100 😕

[hollow fiber]

how tho

idk by stacks what min is that kekw

[proud iron]

6.27

[hollow fiber]

but how do you die and why

[proud iron]

because i suxx

[hollow fiber]

no i mean really

[proud iron]

oggok die first

[hollow fiber]

from what tho

[proud iron]

"first" aoe

mmmh proly felosia should have the tank set

[hollow fiber]

2x puppeteer if you have

[proud iron]

to help oggok tanking

[proud iron]

OH

i do not play with that

in vortex

[hollow fiber]

why not

[proud iron]

that proly why then

dunno x)

[hollow fiber]

it's really good

[proud iron]

so no ancestral ?

[hollow fiber]

ancestral is so 2023 bro

but im not sure it's hard to say

if felosia is high hp she could use it but 2x puppeteer is too good

if you have good stats for it

[proud iron]

https://tenor.com/view/here-we-go-again-gta-gif-20483040

[hollow fiber]

👀

[proud iron]

see you in 6min+

i love this x10 on vortex

[opaque moth]

Is there an alternate non legendary for Tathlyn in the Rally team, does anyone know?

[high kindle]

Hello! Just started S2 today and want to do 2 teams. What shall I do? I think the first one is for sure Rally. (scrolled most of them)
But about the 2nd team, I don't know ...
Tomorrow Vortex will be open and I want to do as much dmg as possible.

On what heroes shall I focus the most?

[proud iron]

not play rally

[hollow fiber]

corupt still alive good sign

[proud iron]

i ve restart 😄

[hollow fiber]

rip

[mental thunder]

no the first one is NOT for sure rally, the first one is for sure garius, shinnah, gerthin, seidic + some attack down if you can find one

[proud iron]

i'm currently stack 80 and all is fine

[high kindle]

Got witch artifact too so....Sigrid?

[boreal trellis]

Any tipps for vortex ? Thougt about Syna instead of Feenja, or Nord to go full affinty.

[hollow fiber]

lets hope puppeteer was the answer for you

[proud iron]

zhorak die >_<

[hollow fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/dumping-trash-daniel-labelle-frustrated-garbage-trash-gif-27186872

try frurbath? prolly need more heals

[mental thunder]

why would witch remains + sigrid be something in the same sentence... her ult is single hit

[hollow fiber]

i got new timers for that

[proud iron]

i'll oggok die too

6.5

[hollow fiber]

he prolly doesn't heal enough then

[mental thunder]

frurb, ivellios, nimbus, sutha... garian maybe; nathaniel is better there. and of course dauntless is more for bosses/vortex, so i'd use iola + sigrid + theodore for progression/pillar/fey on that team

[proud iron]

sinnah gerthin garrius you got a solid IB base team

but you miss some other supporting 😦

[proud iron]

i need focus on work i'll try frub later with 2 puppet

thanks mate

[high kindle]

Okay, thanks peeps! 🙂

Will reset the lvl and do those modifications.

[mental thunder]

rally will be back in s3 and can be used for journ boss midseason/otherworld, but early season rally is just not going to be great compared to what you have with ice blast... IB rules s2

[high kindle]

I understand. Well, at least I have a great start then with Shinnah and Gerthin 🙂

[mental thunder]

adding bleddyn to that would be :chefs kiss:

[high kindle]

I cannot summon anymore. Got 17 orange left + I bought season pass and want to save for her.

I hope I will get bleddyn too soon.

[high kindle]

Btw, is Shinnah good even without scrolls? I have none for her. 😦

[high kindle]

Should be good for some content + Vortex?

[ocean prairie]

If have Diantha & Lincos, worth to build aura team or nah ?

[ocean prairie]

Before I use Catherine as second healer than frur

can try mix & match about that which fit for u specially vortex

Since u can reset until u find it

[strange fox]

Hello guys, i m in S2 now. My dream about having ice blast kinda “melted”.
Can you recommend me a good vortex team?
Also, is it viable to have gobbo burn team without Karf?
Here are my heroes. Thx a lot for advices 🙂

[ocean prairie]

U can make that IB Team, same like above

[mental thunder]

nimbus, nathaniel, frurb, sutha, shagrol... shagrol is your defense down. or. garius, gerthin, nord, zhorak... donella maybe for attack down? nord can be attack speed + defense down arti

or ditch donella and go catherine for immunity from defense down. eitehr works

[strange fox]

Thanks guys. So either weak IB or kinda weak Dauntless. Ok, seems i have some possibilities

[mental thunder]

that's not really a weak ice blast though....

i cleared light pilar s2 with only gerthin + nord

says something about the power of ib

[hollow brook]

Could use some help figuring out a team for vortex, not really sure i have the right units for it

my artifact list if this helps any too

[strange fox]

I was kinda sad about my summons to be honest. At least the last 35 was really worth it. I thought that without Bleddyn, Shinnah, Beldelle is it kinda lost…

[strange fox]

Is it Zhorak any good? I remember i have seen that he is not very strong

[mental thunder]

i wouldnt scroll him but he's good as a third IB because your only purpose is to boost gerthin with ice crystals. he doesnt need to do good damage, just buff

nord, zhorak, gerthin, garius + cleanse/immunity/attack down is basically a really nice IB team for any content

[strange fox]

Also i guess the best gobbo team for S2 will be Sigrid, Letalis, Dench, Irina, Immeral/Iola?

[queen grove]

Looking for your input for a poison team for Vortex (poison bonus) that I could also use for Ripekas in continental challenge (I'm season 1).
I'm considering something in the line of Ergander-Heksandra/Vicuc + a combination of Sigrid-Eli-Twitch-Corrin-Dench.
Both Twitch and Corrin wont be scrolled, and he wont enough haste for full poison uptime, so not sure if it's worth it to build him at this point

[mental thunder]

you dont need 5 affinity for goblins... immeral is trash, i'd be using iola + voresh

[mental thunder]

there is no poison vortex team here; but there is a team you could use for ripelkas. ergander, vicuc, twitch, letalis, sigrid/jijel

jijel prob > sigrid and hold witch remains so that twitch can full dps

[strange fox]

Ok, sounds good. With 5-man afinity, i can change. What about burn for gobbos? Also good? Like Aschetius + Durem + beags + sigrid + Voresh?

[open dagger]

Question: I got Garett today. In reading his attacks, it doesn't look like he needs to be enabled but I wanted to check. My current Vortex lineup is Oggok, Zeffi, Felicity, Errich, and Tonalan. I was thinking of replacing Errich with Garett if he can do great dps alone. Any thoughts?

[mental thunder]

what? you want garrett... in a wild team... and remove your dps enabler for felicity and tonal?

bro i cant today...

[open dagger]

I was told wild was independent

[mental thunder]

just read the skills

[open dagger]

Alright then..I'm stuck at 22m and I either need to change teams, get better artifacts for wild, or get a different hero.

[mental thunder]

well you arent 5/5 affinity in order to abuse zeffi/oggok, which holds you back damage wise

could easily run frurb there to tank instead of zeffi and your fire/poison team would be elevated

s2 you can abuse zeffi better bc she will be in affinity

[open dagger]

Ok, that makes sense, I just don't think I'll survive for long with Furbath. I'm not sure where to place the invincible cast in that team

Right now Oggok is casting to cover first and second attack

[mental thunder]

and just have frurb get attack down for coverage outside of that timing

[open dagger]

Ahhh ok. I'll try that now

Thank you

Well, the rotation was spot on but my team must be weak or improperly geared. I lasted 4:41 for 13.2m at 45 stacks.

[mental thunder]

use felicity as defense down artifact holder

[open dagger]

I think I need Flora

[mental thunder]

errich and tonal full damage gear, platinum knight

felicity on attack speed + gambler or plat knight, oggok on 3 ears

she also needs 100% crit

but the uptime on her defense down will be close to 100%

[open dagger]

Haha, darn..all the videos said gambler

[mental thunder]

because she will cycle fast

idk what videos you watching but sure sounds weird to me. gambler is for high attack speed units not ult damage units

[open dagger]

Scratch

[mental thunder]

dauntless prime example. gambler is competitive but not if you lack attack speed

[open dagger]

Ok I'm short on criticism for Felicity 88% rate / 170% dmg

Crit** Thanks I'll go change the gear and try again. Thanks for your time

[mental thunder]

felicity one of my fav units in game, dont sleep on her

[open dagger]

No I absolutely love her but I built her wrong

[mental thunder]

platinum knight activates the bonus damage on the ult so you get that damage instantly and then after for a time

gambler just gives you a little bonus damage per hit of anything you do

executioner is pvp gear

if you can get felicity down to like 1.5s attack speed with 100% crit and 200+ accuracy, she will be insane uptime on defense down

and you can go gambler on her

but plat knight would be fine too if you have the stats on that set for her

the other two i'd run plat knight

[open dagger]

Ok, let me go reconfig this team with your instructions and see if I can get to 25m. Thank you again.

Does the defense down on the Witch Remains require accuracy or is that seperate?

[mental thunder]

Absolutely does

[open dagger]

Ok cool

[opaque moth]

Thinking of S2 CC for Lossania ... would Oggok/Zeffi/Twitch/Vicana & Jathalea be a 22m potential team, or probs only 11m without Durango or Lothair? Is there anything I could do different?

[mental thunder]

those ranged units are definitely a 22m team easily; durango and lothair die super fast vs loss, useless team

[opaque moth]

Is all poison damage derivative? Or is the initial hit classed as a normal attack which can crit?

[mental thunder]

poison itself is based on attack and target max HP; only certain units are derivative and it says in their skill description

[onyx lintel]

Poison ticks are all derivative

Poison dmg is not

Unless specified

[mental thunder]

so it will deal .5% max hp damage up to 30% of caster but with a bonus given by enlightenment stat... per tick, meaning as it ticks green damage that's what it does. it is pretty low in general... hero skills that do derivative damage get a secondary multiplier from enlight that will increase the damage further than the skill description stat mod which is usually enlight and/or attack as well

durango's ult is based on enlight but is not itself derivative damage

[opaque moth]

So I'd want to build Vicana with Crit/Atk as usual, but maybe Twitch and Jath needing some englightenment as well?

[mental thunder]

same with twitch, not derivative damage (only the poison is)

jathalea IS derivative. which means she ults last of that twitch > vicana > jathalea team

bc she will clear the poison stacks

[opaque moth]

So Jath is attack, enlightenment and accuracy?

[mental thunder]

actually i think vicana goes last....

twitch > jathalea > vicana i think

[opaque moth]

Wouldn't you want Vicana first to get Marked, then inflict poison with Twitch and detonate with Jath?

[mental thunder]

then in the mark duration all the poison stacks inflicted by the team will causes blasts

[onyx lintel]

Negative... Vicana goes first

Jalathea and Vicana are not gonna do well together

[mental thunder]

does vicana just go freely on her ult and not timed?

and it is twitch > jathalea, repeat timer

[onyx lintel]

No she needs to be time but if you do her before Twitch she's losing like 50% of her dmg

[mental thunder]

you mean after

[onyx lintel]

Yeah I mean after

[mental thunder]

you want the mark up when twitch ults right

ya, so if there is more benefit to that there you go; jathalea just clears all the poison after twitch ults is the only issue

[onyx lintel]

Yeah, the main problem is unless he procs witches on first hit you're missing some dmg there too

[opaque moth]

Am I better trying to replace Jath in the team then?

[onyx lintel]

But with just them I would do Vicana > Twitch > Jalathea

[mental thunder]

loss is a pretty crap boss for chief challenge any way you look at it, so zeffi/oggok cheese with that team prob going to last 5 min and do 22m

but in ow will be overkill can prob split it up

[opaque moth]

I'm kinda stuck with no rally team and need to find something for the poison boss really lol

[onyx lintel]

Personally would drop Vicana... she's a lot harder to build than Jalathea.

[mental thunder]

and in mekka prob split it up and maybe even do 2x 200m teams with poison

vicana on mekka big strenf

[opaque moth]

Who would fit better than Vicana? Corrin?

[mental thunder]

durango, corrin, vicana yikes

or dench maybe even better than corrin?

or shink...

[onyx lintel]

Dench would be better here with Vicana and Jalathea

Twitch Dench Vicana or Twitch Dench and Jalathea

[mental thunder]

for loss no melee and if you trying cc for rank score, yeah 1 gimmick not 2

mekka you can run both teams

[opaque moth]

I'll bring Dench in for Vicana if she's harder to build than Jath - or would the fact both are unscrolled sway things at all?

[onyx lintel]

I mean doesn't matter as long as you time. They both work kinda same mechanically

[mental thunder]

@onyx lintel rip dies with 5s left with this team so i know it can survive; the timers do get off a little with rip ult manipulation

i could try thia tank with ancestral protector, which would allow me to either run multiple monelisse instead of puppeteer or i can run dps sets on everyone to up damage

gladros targeting sucks lol

the joyce adds mess him up.

there we go i figured it out

bah and now joyce add spawns among the damage aoe

stupid game

but they are surviving for now

bleh at some point he ran forward and repositioned, stupid boss

plus the spawns are weird with invisibility so gets wonky

timing him with thia since their ult timers are similar

he goes 1s before her so she invis his spirit

[onyx lintel]

Honestly I would try Thia Gladros Zarloth and 2 dps. The goal would be removing the tank sets and getting into dps if possible

[mental thunder]

yeah i went thia in ancestral but her invis with summons can get real wonky if a summon pops up and she doesnt invis it....

then boss moves and kills everyone. however i made it to 4min with 10m+ score with two level 70s

just need some necro frags and i'll bump gladros and joyce and keep trying some positionings and timings til it works out

tbh i have no psych into lightning/necro so i got the better part of 2 weeks to work that up anyway, should be pretty easy to 22m+

idrc about rank because my server is stupid and not worth pushing.

just give me ice dwarf with 20 summons and i'm happy

i could just build irma instead of thia tank and gladros can immune her for first two skills 🤷‍♂️

[formal goblet]

guys can i ask something??

[languid wasp]

Is leveling up corrosion not worth without rook? I have the power couple as the healer and tank. I was thinking to go corrosion as my other three slots but everyone says, corrosion not worth it without rook

Is there a viable team from the above?

[fleet sail]

worth for OW/continental, probably not for stuff like vortex though

also you're missing dargo which will hurt

[lusty palm]

help

im stuck in teneebria

[mental thunder]

But one look at those units and i feel like youll need another 2-3 weeks to summon and build 2 more teams

[safe nebula]

U need to lvl them bit more to make it easier

Arpund 95 shpuld be decent

But for dps i went to lvl 100 for more dps amd survival

[lusty palm]

yeah but are they good heroes? I just tried to 1v1 someone in teneebria on a lvl 100 fhurbath and it was no use. i dont have any heroes i can 1v1 just yet. How do I get better equipment? How do I make my heroes stronger once theyre at lvl 100? I cant figure out how to get better equipment i aleady farmed all the purple equipment i could

[safe nebula]

U dont have full leggo equipment yet? Then u need to do higher lvl dungeons

What is highest dungeon that u do?

[lusty palm]

i do the lvl 5 dungeon in adenthia. i cant get past teneebria

i feel like ive farmed lvl 5 dungeon for hours why is it so grueling to lvl up heroes ffs

[safe nebula]

What stage did u do grave of venom?

grave of curse or grave of rot

If u beat stage 7 and up u get leggo gear

Frurbath sigrid heksandra fire mc letalis can probably do venom 7

[lusty palm]

ok ty ill try that

[pearl ermine]

Need a team for ruins 9. Should I go full damage or heal prohibition?

[hybrid gorge]

Any thought about my comp team for fight agains mekkatorque after 50%??

My 5th and 6th team still sucks before boss hp 50%. Now after 50%, all of them sucks 🥲

[safe nebula]

Full dmg fast easy kill

1 atk down 1 healer cleanser and 3 dps maybe

I use ib team garius and gillian

[onyx lintel]

Fathomdown Daphne Aspalta Taldie and Syn

I assumey you have Taldie

If your psyche is high enough you can drop Syn and add Zarloth

If no Zarloth then Meggan works

[pearl ermine]

🍻🍻

[pearl ermine]

🍻🍻

[formal goblet]

is there any way to know when we get a legend hero during gacha?

[safe nebula]

U can see what u pulled if u go to headset icon on your setting screen

Pity on helio dices is at 35

[red lintel]

guys thoughts on Donella

[onyx lintel]

What do you want @lusty palm

[shell gull]

Use her in S2 and was doing the job

[upper stag]

Can anyone help me out with heretical 9

I’m using ardreth cath beldelle bleddyn rose

I’m not killing the eggs fast enough by the time I kill them they get respawned so not doing enough dmg I’ve tried with all different dps and nothing works 🤦🏼‍♀️

[high kindle]

@safe nebula those are my only IB :/

[safe nebula]

Did u try adding a dps for a support

I have 3 dps garius and gillian

[safe nebula]

Nord better then seidic

[high kindle]

Noted, thanks!

[upper stag]

What dps you using ?

Yes I’ve tried taking rose out and adding gerthin. Tried with voresh sig and auster also tried it with garius and frur

[safe nebula]

I m using my vortex ib team kill it in 32 sec

Boss dies soon after ult

[upper stag]

You using shinnah? Or beldelle?

[safe nebula]

Beldelle shinnah zhorak
Zhorak and shinnah dont do much dmg actually they just buff beldelle

[upper stag]

Hmm, must be a gear issue on my part then. Only thing I can think off

[safe nebula]

I also dont have beldelle ex arti

Who has witches remains?

[upper stag]

Rose

[safe nebula]

U have any timers set?

[upper stag]

Got the eyeball on beldelle I think

But I do have the organ?

No I’m manualing some

[safe nebula]

Bloom is probably better but that would mean dupe ice leggo

Organ can help too

What are your stats on beldelle

[upper stag]

One sec

I need to log in

[oblique tide]

You mean Shinnah?

[safe nebula]

I have a decently build beldelle 6.3k atk 102 c.rate and 172 c.dam

But if u have less stats to compensate u can add more dps stats on the other 2 heroes

Shinnah and zhorak i use as buffer mostly and not for dmg

[oblique tide]

Or is Bleddyn enough to enable?

[safe nebula]

Not as good as shinnah but good second option

Shinnah is best enabler

[oblique tide]

It might be that you actually don’t want both Beldelle and Gerthin, but only one. Get a support DPS in instead of the other one

[safe nebula]

U can also try beldelle bleddyn nord

[oblique tide]

Or that yeah

[safe nebula]

And 2 supports to make u survive at least 1 ult

And then spd kill them

[oblique tide]

Ardreth Catherine should be enough, which they already use

[upper stag]

I think it’s a gear issue on my part personally

[safe nebula]

U need more crit rate much more

[upper stag]

I know she needs more crit rate but trying to get a full useful aerial set is hard 🤦🏼‍♀️

[oblique tide]

Don’t get a full one, just use whatever set you have a crit glove of

[safe nebula]

Yeah exactly and if u can bit crit rate from.runes too

Most dmg will come from her so she needs best dps stats

[oblique tide]

I think Gerthin with the manticore might actually do more

You can also put the manticore on Beldelle though

If it’s lv 20 it should for sure be better than the lv 16 organ

[upper stag]

These are the only crit rate gloves I have 🤦🏼‍♀️

Changed to manticore

Gethin gets me through ven 9 without an enabler if I’m honest

[safe nebula]

Beldelle is best ib dps by far no one comes even close

[upper stag]

Yeah she’s amazeballs I just obviously have her geared wrong 😂🙈

Il do some more ven runs for her

[safe nebula]

This is mine bloom is second best arti for her

[oblique tide]

Without her exclusive artifact that’s just not true. When evenly enabled Gerthin comes close

With her own artifact, sure, she’s the lone beast. Makes sense

[safe nebula]

No way gerthin comes close

Otherwise people would be using in top ranks

I have all ib heroes and tested them all

[oblique tide]

I’ve seen it in on the YouTube videos of creators. Many folks do use both Beldelle and Gerthin with Shinnah

Either way, just make sure your Beldelle is properly geared and enabled. I’m still unsure of whether Bleddyn is enough for that

[upper stag]

I got the organ as I could use it on more toons but if I get another dupe I may get her arti

I’ve tried it with gerth and beldelle doesn’t make much difference

It’s just got to be a gear issue Il do some more ven runs for her. Thanks for the advice

[safe nebula]

If u put same gear on both beldelle will outdmg gerthin by at least 25%

Bleddyn is decent enabler

[safe nebula]

Try beldelle bleddyn nord ardeth catherine

And use crit damage aura from beldelle

[upper stag]

Okay Thankyou

[safe nebula]

U have the heroes to do it that is for sure

[upper stag]

Yeah I’m just going wrong somewhere it’s stressing me out I’ve been trying for 4 days 😂

[safe nebula]

As long as u get beldelle more crit rate u should be fine

With ardeth u wont have problem with surviving

Kill them before they kill u😋😂

[upper stag]

This is what I’ve been trying 😂

I got half way with a different team the other day

[oblique tide]

No enabler for Beldelle is just wrong

[safe nebula]

Indeed beldelle.needs 1 enabler for sure

[oblique tide]

If you’d throw out Sigrid for Nord/Bleddyn you’d get farther than 50%, probably be able to finish it

[safe nebula]

Otherwise dmg much lower

[oblique tide]

Or Voresh if you need the attack down more than the healing

I think you have the heroes to be able to complete it

[safe nebula]

Dmg seems bit low because few bs hits from beldelle should kill them

[upper stag]

Yeah I know she needs an enabler I was just giving it a whirl

I can do ven 9 with gerthin with no enabler

[upper stag]

Just realised your s2 with your gear? I’m s3

[safe nebula]

Yes i m s2 that is why i dont have ardeth yet this is second day of ardeth event and dungeons rateup

[upper stag]

Ahh right okay

S3 gear drops have been horrendous for everyone! Hope you get better luck

[safe nebula]

There is no myth gear for us yet so less rng then in s3 needed

Bur rng is still bad i dont get any atk runes from AB lol

At any case runes are important so i think u need to get a farm 9 as fast as u can

Also spd run is not only option to farm ofc
U can try slowly killimg the boss too

But then u need good supports heals atk down and everything because boss gets pretty strong

Best way imo is to kill the phoenix right as they spawn so u can focus all your dmg on the boss

U can also use food to get u over the edge if u r close enough

[idle ermine]

what should i use for lineup

[mortal carbon]

hello guys, so last week I ask why my garius keep dying from 240 grumag
here is the video if its allowed to send here

[civic phoenix]

He's getting blasted by the 4 crystals from the boss' second skill

Could try swapping to a DEF increasing food to see if that lets him tank it

[mortal carbon]

yeah the key is to increase all of my backliner deff, so when boss first area hit the garius would have the lowest hp and adol battleskill would shield garius

[ebon fossil]

need advice on otherworld irzillas

which burn is good to invest in?

[severe cedar]

you dont have wilds?

[ebon fossil]

form 3 team of them already

[ebon fossil]

oh those 2 on the left are bad?

[severe cedar]

maybe can help you make some comp.

[ebon fossil]

no karf but thanks for the idea

[severe cedar]

one is melle, melee doesnt work on Irzillas.
Another one is cool but the others are better

[ebon fossil]

ok will see have to see how it goes

[safe nebula]

I have stolen like 100 comps for these bosses lol

[humble latch]

maybe also mention line up for what content, different content usually require different team

[mental thunder]

#1202625010984820806

[empty spade]

For season 1 should I focus on crit rate and damage?

Also I used the team mrowmrif2 talks about in his guide for goblin and works really well.

[empty spade]

Just got Catherine now I can set up a rally team 🙂

[mental thunder]

2x barbarian epic sets with crit% hands would get you close to 80%

[empty spade]

Ok

[empty spade]

Here it is. 🙂

[mental thunder]

She is not a crown holder

Her ult hits once

[empty spade]

Ahh ok what should she have

[serene stag]

🤬🤬🤬

[serene stag]

You can build her crit dmg build or just put her on eye ball of giant

[empty spade]

Ok what is a crit damage build.

[vital bramble]

Right guys, started S3. Have pulled synarell and the groom and bride, have Ardeth, Gogol etc, but no rat, no flora, no Shinnah. Have a decent part of the rest. Was doing the usual cheese dauntless vortex team in S2 but would like to try sthg different, especially on day 2. Looking for inspiration for 2 DPS 🙂

[serene stag]

Get as much as crit dmg from equip, items and runes while keeping crit rate at least 70% ( the more the better ).

@empty spade an example , but u can use something like crit rate set to boost ur crit rate .

[empty spade]

What season are you in?

[empty spade]

This is what I can get her to right now

[rose jetty]

I wonder if unscrolled Ivellios could replace Vani in this line up

[open dagger]

Event coming up with Auster and Ilvellios. I heard dauntless is amazing in either s2 or s3 but I also heard similar about frost. Which hero would be the better of the two to try to get? I don't have any real frost team heros yet and as for dauntless I only have Garett.

[vital bramble]

Dauntless dominates s2

[onyx lintel]

Unscrolled Ivel will do way more dmg

Dauntless is bad in s3

Bad affinity

[empty spade]

Guess sigrid does good damage. Produced 54% of the damage lol

[safe nebula]

She is the only dps there

[hollow talon]

4 healer comp

[urban swan]

Can anyone give me some advice for S2 pillar of taint 59? Poison/lighting are my weakest lineups and I’m struggling. I’m trying with Ergander, Nathaniel, Eli, Sigrid and Lola. Doesn’t matter who I switch in, whether it be healer or Furbath I can’t get passed the first wave. This is my roster, majority of my legendary toons are radiance

[naive cliff]

Any frost team suggestions ?

[strange fox]

you need to get him def up from catherine.
Otherwise he die in 10s. Or att down II on battle skill(Vicuc for example).
I have been using Horrus(unscrolled)+Frurbath+Heks+ Dane+ Sigrid.
You need to keep att down II debuff for whole time.

[grand forum]

Any Fire / Radiance team suggestion please for vortex. Thank you in advance 🙂

[swift kayak]

Ergander frur nat sigrid iola beats it
Turn off iola ulti on first wave

[tight lintel]

On S1, How can I do Ancient Battlefield 9 faster than 30 second? (let say I have access to all the Heroes)

[onyx lintel]

Drop Furbath add Tonal or Errich?

[bold onyx]

How TF do I do amchient battlefield 8....let alone 9.. because I want some negative lego runes dang it and I'm frustrated now. Please help!

[golden smelt]

Heksandra with high resist positioned furthest to the back, Voresh/Gerana for buff dispell, Frurbarh and 2 dps.. dont use any heroes that give buffs, the boss will dispel and gain bonus

[bold onyx]

Does frur need acc to apply attack down?

Build voresh how

[golden smelt]

I just built Frur with high def and i use Sigrid for atk down

[golden smelt]

High accuracy and haste set

If u cant clear 8, i think u need better lego gear

[mental thunder]

Shields, attack down, dispel, damage, defense down artifact, healing… no buffs. You have adolphus and frurb, that is everything but defense down arti and damage.

[bold onyx]

Isn't Adolphus give sheild which is a buff?

[safe nebula]

Shields are not a buff in this game

[bold onyx]

Oh....

Just cleared 8!

[safe nebula]

For AB u dont need a tank

But everyone needs to be sturdy

And the hero in the back with very high res

[elder swift]

Does Gladros need accuracy to land his battle skill?

[mental thunder]

Ofc he does

[fleet sail]

only things that don't need accuracy to hit a cc/debuff= knock backs, knock ups, knock downs, pull ins, synarell (the character)

[stark sundial]

so im bran dspanking new. can someone recommend me who i should be putting resources into? i dont wanna waste

[elder swift]

It doesn't show up anywhere so it's hard to know.

[round wagon]

Necrosis= Legendary and Archer. Ice= Epic with hat, Traveler and Heksendra

[stark sundial]

archer meaning thia?

[round wagon]

Yep, I think so. I'm certain it's the one that grants invisibility and heal. Not the other similiar looking one who ult nerfs.

[onyx lintel]

Adrie

[onyx lintel]

Ripekas Thia Voresh Horrus and FMC pretty good to go

[stark sundial]

ahhh ok ok

[round wagon]

Horrus... eh... He's third best tank imo. Frurbath then Garrius begrudgingly.

[stark sundial]

i do like the invisibility i read on her

[stark sundial]

idk if i have them

[round wagon]

Yeah you got Horrus for now. He IS worth the build.

[stark sundial]

oh yeah i thought you where saying to replace him with what you said

[round wagon]

His ult is sometimes his only issue. That's why I have him rated third imo.

[stark sundial]

fair

im sad though im new and was super hyped to pulled talwer only to hear hes bad xD

leggos look so great in this game but so hard to pull

[round wagon]

Lastly, this guy, at least looks promising on paper. But I would look for a second and third opinion on him.

[stark sundial]

but horrus is better than him right?

because i already have horrus at lvl 25

[round wagon]

Yes. Never heard any thing about Elvis

[stark sundial]

iight

so this is the line up right now. imma invest into the archer now for at least match lvls

[round wagon]

Funnily enough there is another guy named Alvis. So I haven't a clue which one stewgaming was exactly refering to in one of his videos.

[round wagon]

He's definately a pain In Arena to boot.

[stark sundial]

who

[round wagon]

The main guy Ripekas

[stark sundial]

Oh yeah idk what he does exactly in pvp and such but his design is so cool hes gotta be in

should i change main character element? its currently fire. or is fire just best overall

[round wagon]

Switch traveler to Ice. So you can at least have a 4 man elemental buff in battle.

[stark sundial]

btw thank you for all the help i know new players can nag some times

[round wagon]

Fire has the best range. Ice has sheilds. and Lightning.... well I heard and have seen somewhat, that radaince/lightning isn't so great. But then there is Garruis. His ult heals entire party and has unlimited range. Plus his defense stacks to 20. If gear is is good he's literally the only frontline you need as far as season 1 goes.

[round wagon]

Check out the new player guide, it really helped me out a lot.

[stark sundial]

nice okay. ill get to building these and look into that guide. MUCH MUCH love

[round wagon]

No problem. Oh and before I turn into a pumpkin. Make sure to build your Ripekas with Accuracy and Def% gear.

[stark sundial]

this is currently what i have on him.

[round wagon]

That's fine. Better gear will come along. While I'm thinking about it...

[stark sundial]

well now you got me second guessing ands unequipping everything just to make sure lol

[round wagon]

This is a good setup to push for better gear. The harpy will always attack your tank. So just give Horrus a lot of defense, def%, hp, and Hp% gear.

[stark sundial]

i dont even think im there lol

[round wagon]

Oh you haven't gotten to the harpy yet, just bought gear from shops so far?

[stark sundial]

for Ripekas is it Acc>Def%?

[stark sundial]

and forged

[round wagon]

Don't worry about the levels right now. Just save this screenshot for placement. She does the same thing in 9 as far as I've seen. But my tank defense isn't high enough yet to last even 10 seconds on the regular.

[stark sundial]

??

[round wagon]

If you can get both on each piece of gear. That'll be a good start.

[round wagon]

Where did I lose you?

[stark sundial]

yeah i have some gear that has one and another with another

[stark sundial]

i didnt understand this. this referring to the harpy lvl:?

[round wagon]

Oh. Yeah. It's just about positioning. The levels do matter whereas you're not going to beat her at level 130 with a team of level 30's. lol

[stark sundial]

ah okay yeah lol.

[round wagon]

Oh. And I would check out stewgaming videos. He play's around with rare's to beat high end content. And he also explains most things very well to boot. So If you get stuck beyond what the beginner guide in this discord suggests. Check out his videos.

[stark sundial]

i plan on doing all that investigating lol. so does it matter acc > def% ? or whichever one is first in the recommended tab for gear?

[round wagon]

Screenshot both if you can.

[round wagon]

At a low level def% doesn't do much. Accuracy ain't so important to start either. It's when you get around level 50 and up that resistance because a factor, so having high accuaracy helps you debuff the mobs you have to deal with.

[round wagon]

Defense.

[fleet sail]

yeah flat defense and flat attack are significantly better below level 70

[round wagon]

Rare and above gear will have bonuses to specific stats.

[fleet sail]

And the set bonuses aren't as important early either

[stark sundial]

ahhh ok

[fleet sail]

It's perfectly valid to have a tank in +attack set if it gives them a lot of defense in main and substats

[stark sundial]

i was gonna ask about the % because usually those are better overall

[fleet sail]

Yeah it's because it's based on the base value for that character at the level they're at

[round wagon]

Yeah. lol plus 12% def to like 20 defense don't do much right now.

[fleet sail]

so as you can imagine, 40% of 400 is way less than 235 flat

[stark sundial]

yeah alright

[wheat solstice]

Well, hit my pity summons in the first month...this guy any good--and if I have been building a poison team but still missing Frurbath, do I put what limited scrolls I have for him into him?

[random flare]

Is there a better arena team I could make from the ppl i have?

[stark sundial]

@round wagon may i dm you real quick?

[round wagon]

Sure

[stark sundial]

it was regarding alliances but i think i got it figured out

[round wagon]

What, like switching to a more active alliance?

[stark sundial]

a whole mess of questions

[round wagon]

Shoot.

[stark sundial]

i was asking about like. what happens if you transfer to another server through the alliance invite system. what comes, what doesnt, uhhh the requirements needed to be met if you wanted to go to a server your guildies are on. ect

[round wagon]

Well since you are mostly new. I imagine you would be starting from scratch all ove ragain.

[stark sundial]

big sad. cant lose my boy Ripe

[round wagon]

Oh yeah. He's a really good legendary as far as I've seen. Really been beating my head in in arena lol.

[round wagon]

I think you would have to just build up your account over the next 2 weeks and then look to join a active guild.

[stark sundial]

im not pressed to do anything crazy with guilds right now so long as i can be with the boys

[round wagon]

If you can find even a halfway alive guild. It would really help out your account. Getting commisions completed daily is very helpful.

[stark sundial]

hm ill look into it. when seasons reset the lvl of your units reset too right?

[round wagon]

Yep. But they do remain scrolled.

[stark sundial]

scrolled?

[round wagon]

you also keep the scrolls you acquired as well.

[stark sundial]

oh hhh nice okay okay

[high kindle]

Uh...this is new,,,, O.O How do I position?

[mortal carbon]

contingental challenge auster, so If i want to use isolde to tank + att down I need her to get some acc on chest and rune
but it makes her extremely weak and die fast
do you think I should have just replace isolde for purely tank and swap 1 of my wild with a solid attack down?

[plush thicket]

Use an artifact with accuracy and a negative rune with accuracy. Isolde works but also, auster is rough.

You also want to use 3pc Ancestral, or at least 2pc ancestral for defense bonus.

Ideal situation is 4k+ defense and 80k+ health on her for that fight. Its doable with the right gear adds to get to the 270 accuracy.

[mortal carbon]

4k deff with 80k hp and also 270 acc?
no way that is possible

[oblique tide]

It is for sure, just need some right rolls and a legendary artifact

[tight lintel]

On S1, How can I do Ancient Battlefield 9 faster than 30 second? (let say I have access to all the Heroes)

[high kindle]

Anyone?

[gray horizon]

Go wild - flora, Erich, tonnalan, Caspar, garius

[round wagon]

Um.. I'm kinda falling behind progress wise. Is there a better line up I have available? And would the timing be kinda similiar?

[grand forum]

Thanks for the suggestion however I don't have flora

[uneven jungle]

hi quick question.
are any of these legendarys that are still level 1 worth leveling?.

[round wagon]

The old lightning lady. Has global stunning.

[balmy compass]

Any tips on how to beat this boring team please ?

[mental thunder]

All of them are useful.

[mental thunder]

Kill back row first. Edgar useless here just tank with questa

Disable and high aoe damage back row only way

[balmy compass]

Only Questa ? My god she will instant die

[mental thunder]

Not in actual tank gear

[balmy compass]

I try to kill the bak row first but i can kill only one Zarloth before their first ulti and it's enough to kill almost all my team xD

[mental thunder]

It has always been a terrible floor, hate they have two zhars

[balmy compass]

You mean Questa in 3 pieces of protector set ?

[mental thunder]

Thats what i did s2

And i ult one zhar to remove its ult so worst case they dont both ult together

Plus it heals questa

Ofc i used adolphus for shield and to boost her ult

Meggan can heal her and boost ult but not much else value

[balmy compass]

I'll try. i was thinking to use Meggan as well to heal and get the defense up

[gray horizon]

Yeah - I meant Felicity 🙂

[round wagon]

Okay. I'm stuck on the final story boss. Any suggestions?

[mental thunder]

Balanced team, bring more damage

Usha + lossenia + ghul + garius + frurb would be plenty

[round wagon]

Lossenia isn't scrolled and died almost immediately..................

It's the second round that kills me. Hand that grabs you seems to take no damage despite ults supposed to target everything.

[steep coral]

Hi. For shadow recast ,Thelendor, who should I focus for, 4 days left ? It is ideal to put 5 Necro or is it fine to combo with ice ?

Same advise needed also for the upcoming lighting / Radiance

[sour oriole]

@steep coral Questa, Adrie, Voresh, Zharloth and Tioh or even Deverick if you can afford to scroll him. Questa can tank with enough accuracy, make sure Voresh always ults before 2nd spell so he doesnt get rally for his ultimate. If you use Deverick make sure he ults before boss ults for atk down.

[mental thunder]

Are you in legendary gear?

[round wagon]

Only got a few in legendary gear, slowly transitioning to legendary. Stuck on 8 for rot and venom atm.

[mental thunder]

First off you arent season 3… you are season1. Second, what do you mean by upcoming? All the chiefs are available each week. You pick 3, then 4, then 5 then 6. Do you just mean next week you’re doing radiance boss? How you are phrasing things is confusing…

And you should be 5 affinity by chief challenge, so you should be using 5/5 ice/necro with damage units necro for thelendor boss. This all leads me to believe you didnt read the event to understand what it is you need…

Zharloth, adrie, deverick, meggan and questa tanking. All need accuracy except zharloth, he can be high attack and attack speed

[mental thunder]

Well there you go.

You are fighting final boss wearing rags

[round wagon]

Meh. lol

Alright. I'll try again next weekend then. Will farm for leg gear exclusively. I'm done with leveling/sharding everyone for now.

[sour oriole]

I am not sure he needs megan, def buff is nice, but Voresh removing rally is better. Unscrolled Deverick is not reliable for that

[mental thunder]

CAN do voresh, but also consider that questa + adrie high accuracy can reduce thelendor ult so he doesnt have rally when he ults anyway... but having the dispel / buff block as insurance is nice to have.

[sour oriole]

Yeah thats true, I did found it to be also unrelaible, but then again I would just manual it tbh, once a week

[mental thunder]

might need 3 ult redux units though

like ghul or rip + adrie + questa, not sure if 2 alone can do it

and questa with hourglass would be best there; meggan wouldnt be needed if you have ghul obv

[sour oriole]

2 can do it, if you time it well. Meggan was my tank for OW Thelendor. Either way, he got some good heroes for that fight

[mental thunder]

meggan there basically to keep questa alive and push ult more than anything

[sour oriole]

Deverick is a beast also, couldnt afford to scroll him tho, but with enough recharge speed and ult reduction you can time the atk down easily

[steep coral]

thanks. So for this round finishing in 4 days time, I need to form up and hit all 6 bosses ?

[sour oriole]

first week, its 3 bosses max, 2nd week its 4. 3rd its 5 and last week all 6

[steep coral]

ah. thanks it is clear now. So for practical sense, I should just focus on my best Poison and Ice and go with perhaps fire

[sour oriole]

If its your first week yeah, but I think you have quite strong shadow. For sure gonna do 22M in Otherworld, which is in 4 weeks.

Ice is the hardest one btw

[bold onyx]

My dauntless team for S1 vortex does around 15m; are there any teams that can perform higher?

[sour oriole]

And which heroes exactly are you using? Also which artifacts do you have? I feel like Garius, Mithrasea, Nastjenka, Garrett and Nimbus should do more than 15M

[bold onyx]

That is my vortex team lol

Garius using scarab, mithrasea mirror, nimbus using WR specced acc for WR. Garrett horseshoe and Nast is using giants eyeball

[sour oriole]

Rest of the gear? Also wine artifact might be better than giants eyeball for dauntless hero. Dont have Nastjenka tho

[sour oriole]

I would only swap the arti on Nastjenka, her and Garrett go after Nimbus I suppose with 20s rotation on all?

[bold onyx]

I haven't messed with timing at all because I don't understand it

[golden smelt]

Theres a guide about skill timer in #1112640799373541416

[bold onyx]

So the 20s rotation is the first skill cast or the interval

[sour oriole]

interval

Also make sure Mithrasea ults before boss casts defense down

[onyx lintel]

Shadow p strong

[sour oriole]

@bold onyx you also need more skills haste and even incense burner artifact to make sure its 20s rotation on ult, since CD is 24s

I suppose you dont have hourglass artifact

[bold onyx]

I do not

Only lego artifact I've gotten is WR

[sour oriole]

Thats the right choice

But something like 50-60 skill haste I guess with Incense burner should make Miths ulti CD around 20s

[bold onyx]

Okay so skill haste on mithra, round 50/60. What else

[sour oriole]

Id make her even more tanky with lots of enlightment for stronger heals and proloonging the fight by staying alive and ressing if its possible

Change Nastjenkas artifact to wine cup

Improve runes and gear in general, but you are on the right path

[bold onyx]

Just farmed alot of negative runes 8 last night... so that's going to effect alot

How much enlightment should go on mith?

[sour oriole]

As much as you can, her heals are affected by it

[bold onyx]

Oh! All the affinity stuff. The extra accuracy and resistance etc. Should I take that into account when building as it dosent show up on main stat screens

[sour oriole]

I leave resistance for last honestly. Accuracy is important, but seems like you have enough on Nimbus and yeah in general you should take into account when building stuff

[bold onyx]

Copy that

I just wish they included that om your heros when building gear etc

[sour oriole]

Yeah, you get used to it tho

[plush thicket]

s1 it was easy peasy due to the defense bonus on ancestral. This was my main from S1, I cant find the old SS of it but all I had to do was swap one piece and I went from 80k/4500 to like 60k/near 5k and 220 accuracy. Keep in mind you get +50 accuracy from affinity.

[bold onyx]

Why the wine on nast?

[sour oriole]

crit, atk speed for basic attacks, ideally you want horseshoe on her out of epic artifacts

I ran horseshoe on my primary DD, which was Garrett, and wine on 2ndary

[bold onyx]

So garrett with wine nest with horseshoe

Should I focus on getting crit chance to 100% then crit damage or

[sour oriole]

95+

You got 80 alrdy on Nastjenka, so 20 more ideally

[bold onyx]

Do sets really matter. Like if I can get the stats versus set pieces together

[sour oriole]

They matter at this stage of the game

[bold onyx]

@sour oriole like this?

[grand forum]

Alrighty thanks 🫡

[topaz horizon]

shuld i change notera whith somoane else ?

[bold onyx]

This is woth the changes of the dauntless team for v4

[round wagon]

Finally made it to 60. Is she worth scrolling/building?

[fleet sail]

niche use

stripping buffs and acting as a pseudo healer and that's basically it

[round wagon]

Hmmm. So more useful then Brody and that lightning lizard epic?

[fleet sail]

wouldn't scroll her

or bother leveling her until you have a very specific use in mind.

[lunar fable]

She's good in continental for the fire team.

[round wagon]

Alright. Still awaiting to get Adolphus Isoldore and zhar. ( epics )

[ripe lark]

https://tenor.com/view/good-morning-funny-animals-insomnia-cat-tired-crazy-cute-gif-4548358857953075454

https://tenor.com/view/good-morning-funny-animals-insomnia-cat-tired-crazy-cute-gif-4548358857953075454

[opaque lynx]

hello all again so i wanted to ask i just got Sagomir and i got Garrius are this 2 strong togther with Nathaniel and maybe 2 Rally characters

that can help me get legendary farming going

[fleet sail]

toss those three in with sigrid and letalis and you should be able to do stage 7+ of venom at least.

or sigrid and dench. or sigrid and voresh

or sigrid and literally anyone that does good aoe damage

[opaque lynx]

ok Thanks i been having hard time getting pass 7 on any Grave

[fleet sail]

sigrid frurbath garius heksandra voresh, with voresh and sigrid built high crit, should pretty easily clear venom 7

[opaque lynx]

Sigrid i got maxed out so i just need one with AOE then

i got Errich

[fleet sail]

errich's not good without other wilds

and is not an aoe damage dealer

his kit tricks you. Only his battle skill does extra damage with extra targets

[opaque lynx]

this is what i got

[fleet sail]

Not so great at focusing resources, eh?

judging by the massive amount of half-leveled things

[opaque lynx]

damm Erric that bad yeah just finish my battlepass too

[fleet sail]

You have felicity, just use her as your final dps

she's not AOE but she hits so hard single target that she'll kill an orb and then munch the boss

[opaque lynx]

i wasted Alot that becuse people told me i needed 2 teams

[fleet sail]

yeah you do, it's just good to have intention with what you build!

a champ sitting half leveled does nothing really for you, so it's better to focus resources on getting them to 90-95 before moving onto building the next

besides the forced level caps related to journey level of course.

[opaque lynx]

i thought building a poison team for world and Light and lightning for graves

thats why i got so many poisons level up

[fleet sail]

you'll need more than two teams by the end of the season. month two you need 6 different teams by the end, all focusing on a single element

endgame dragon is also six teams, otherworld is up to 15 if you're whaling, as many as possible if you're not!

[opaque lynx]

damm thats crazy so if i can i do 2 teams i dont know how long i have left on this season tho

[fleet sail]

You'd know if the event where you need up to 6 teams had started because you'd have a big fat sidebar saying something about a legendary named Utior.

[opaque lynx]

right now Ripkas and Usha are my strongest

[fleet sail]

With the world's worst hairline showcased.

[opaque lynx]

ahhh yes i got that Utior

so when that ends is when season ends

[fleet sail]

no that's when otherworld starts

the 2nd to last phase of the season

[opaque lynx]

ohhh i see

well trying to gear Sagomir with tank gear i guess

whats the best Artifact to put on Nath and Sagomir and Sigrid

[elder swift]

Is it better to build attack or HP for Gladros's shields?

[mortal carbon]

that is insane

[opaque lynx]

is this good for Felicity

no crit tho

my sigrid got one shot and almost my Nath to in grave of Rot 6 so yeah dont know what gear they need to survive

felicity does so little damage damm

but my others even less

[rose jetty]

For Journ S2 boss, this team :Garius, Clovis , Rose , Hegio, Welby is enough for 11m or should I replace Clovis for another Rally ?

[balmy compass]

I would say add another rally. Rose is enough for the break def and atk

[round wagon]

Can someone help me with grave of curse?

there just has to be a working setup somehow.

[rose jetty]

She's not full scrolled, sometimes she miss boss's ulti and die. Btw, which set and main armor set you use for her, def or enlightenment? Moonelise or cyril?

[opaque lynx]

finally beat Grave of Rot 7

[balmy compass]

Usually Cyrill's set if you use her as a debuff enabler

If she is not scrolled, try to adjust the timers to maximize her potential

Anyway, Journ is not the easiest boss in S2. You should focus on ice and fire boss first

[mortal carbon]

this is the best I can do for isolde
i can get 80k and more deff if I dumped acc from art and rune but she need it

[rose jetty]

Ye, I heard fire team is easier. Will looking for F2P burn team too.

[plush thicket]

Sometimes we just gotta do our best for a bit with what we have, give a go, see how you do. If anything the Defense is more important than the HP.

Remember that this boss is hard for most of us, so don't feel horrible if you don't 22m it. TBH, 11m is damn good.

IIRC I usually used Horrus. What you CAN be happy with is that Isolde/Adolphus combo works really well vs dragon at the end of the season, so getting her mastered is a good thing. Also you know what you should farm gear wise for your tanks.

s1 was a lot of 4k-5k defense, 60k+ health on tanks, while DPS were mainly 40-50k health and 1400-1600 defense.

[mortal carbon]

yes thank you, I deal 13m and pretty satisfied knowing others also struggling as much as I do

[sour oriole]

@bold onyx nope, you want all of them to be at 20s, except maybe Garius it depends. Initial cast should be, Nimbus first, followed by Nastjenka and Garrett once def down is up

[bold onyx]

Ahh okay

[golden smelt]

I heard burn is better but i have fully scrolled wild team (Errich, Felicity and Tonalnan).. i wonder if its still better than burn tho.. i havent level any of them yet

[balmy compass]

Wild is good as well but the most important is that range are better on this boss. If you can't try with some melee but they will need some HP

[onyx lintel]

Wild works fine, you'll need both for OW anyway

Fire boss Irzillas is pretty easy and you can make several teams for him

[mortal carbon]

should I change hexandra for poisoner?
also trick for this boss, I should make 2 of my tankier hero close up with my tank so ripekas would only ult 3 of my team right? and also make 2 of my tankier hero with bulk + resist ?

[balmy compass]

I would say remove Vicuc (his heal is very bad) and build your tank and healer with a lot of resistance, at least your healer. Then add another range DPS in the top corner and move Sigrid one tile front. Theodore could be interesting if you have him

[mortal carbon]

so I think I watch youtube, that said if we add 2 tanks on the front with rest on spesific formation the boss only attack those 2 tanks

my struggle is to make my 3 target boss ult survive long enough, even with attack down boss would still kill my 2 backliner

[safe nebula]

U have to play with tile so ripekas only ults the 2 tanks up front

[balmy compass]

Yes his ult is a diamond so place your heroes to force him to ult only on 2 melee

[topaz horizon]

can somoane answear plz ?

[balmy compass]

Depends on what do you are doing ?

Noteera is really basic, so you can skip her in general

I hope you didn't put too much scroll on her

[stuck venture]

Забирайте S.T.A.L.K.E.R 2 предзаказ на свой Steam Бесплатно https://shorturl.at/noPT3 не знаю баг это или нет но я забрал

[rose jetty]

I curious about Eches and Jijel passive. "When inflicting debuffs on enemies, reduces their damage dealt by 10%". It means Eches must inflicts debuff same time with enemy's ultimate casting to reduce their ultimate damage ? Jijel passive only works for himself, right ?

[somber harness]

@hollow fiber @waxen urchin 😢

[waxen urchin]

Sadlyfe

For starters swap the position of Sigrid and Meggan because Siggy isn't hitting boss.

And then make sure you have HP or Def chest and gloves on Horrus

Seems weird that he dies so easily, he shouldn't be dying so easily on V4

[somber harness]

He has lol

[hollow fiber]

also your sigrid is hitting the orb make sure she hits the boss

[somber harness]

Ok ill swap and try again

[hollow fiber]

attack down from siggy huge

[somber harness]

I think I need to be higher lvl

Think if tank was 90 would be ez

[hollow fiber]

or just better gear for horrus

[somber harness]

Hes got defense on all gear with hp

[hollow fiber]

aight

then come visit later

[somber harness]

Probably tomorrow I'll beat it

[mortal night]

Recommendations for grave of rot setup season 2 level 7/8?

[balmy compass]

Depends on your box

[topaz horizon]

what shuld i build for globin lvl 5 ??

[balmy compass]

Sigrid, Voresh, MC fire, Horrus without ulti and maybe Theodore

[mortal night]

All the usuals I’ve now got voresh new this season

[ancient drift]

does anyone have any recommendations for beating higher stages of ancient battlefield?

Should I switch a hero, set a different skill timings or do somethings else? (im in season 2, so it's poison/lightning, fire/necro, ice/radiance)

[safe nebula]

For starters u dont need tank in AB
Secondly it is one of the most difficult dungeons so try to get everyone leggo gear

How much resist does your furthest hero in this case voresh have

[safe nebula]

That is not going to help at all u need over 300 resistance

If the furthest hero resists the boss stun the boss gets a debuff on him

And your team does more dmg during that time

Why do u have ergander in that team? For atk down or..?

[boreal trellis]

Any suggestions ? running out of time, only 11m damage for necro boss in continental.

[balmy compass]

I would say more damage dealer, too much heal

[lunar fable]

I believe it's better to work on venom first. Venom 7 gives legendary ore to forge legendary items. Get you some legendary items and then go back to rot.

[high kindle]

How can I position them so Shinnah and Beldelle won't die ?

Did Stage 4, now 5.

[boreal trellis]

My alternatives.

[balmy compass]

Zadok and Joyce

[boreal trellis]

So which 2 would you change out

[balmy compass]

Do some try to see what is the best

maybe instead of Zarloth and Thia

Of course it will be good if they are scrolled up

[boreal trellis]

You think Zadok over Scharlach ?

[onyx lintel]

If this is for s3 then you're gonna get boned with summons because they will all trigger the boss passive explosion

Drop Meggan and Deverick imo. Add Daphne and Taldie

Either Daphne and Taldie or Taldie and Adrie

The reason for Taldie is he has highest uptime of def down

I would also drop Ripekas and add a ranged tank so that Thia gives debuff immune to the tanm

tank

Thia herself can be the tank, so you can have Thia Zarloth Deverick Taldie and Daphne would be good.

Build Zarloth as your main dps, and hopefully Daphne possesses him mostly

Try and keep his acc as low as possible so he doesn't throw off your timings

[ancient drift]

Cuz I thought his aggro+invincible was nice, but he isnt needed then?

[empty spade]

Trying to get my tank to 100. But damn it requires so many small xp potions to get those last few levels.

[somber harness]

@safe nebula

[safe nebula]

What gear u have on is horrus scrolled

[somber harness]

Nah he ain't scrolled hardly any scrolls

[somber harness]

Venom gear with all hp and defence

[safe nebula]

He died way to quick with all those healers there s1 is difficult because many heroes not scrolled is heks scrolled and megan?

[somber harness]

Only sig rn

[somber harness]

I think it's the rare gear

[safe nebula]

Did u beat oozemonster?

There is a merchant in first town who had epic gear if i remember right

[ancient drift]

cuz he's a pretty good tank and I thought almost everything needed a tank. What would you recommend as alternative?

[safe nebula]

AB doesnt need tanks

Needs heals and shields

And the furthest back hero with lots of resistance

[ancient drift]

Good to know, thanks for the advice!

[somber harness]

No never beat the green dragon yet

[safe nebula]

That is not the dragon

It is a monster after u beat it u can go to next area

Dragonseria is the town name i think

[safe nebula]

U die too fast or ur dmg is lol?

[somber harness]

Oh I ment I never beat the green dragon to kill the ooze

[onyx lintel]

You're in the right place, @safe nebula beats the green dragon every night

until it turns purple

[somber harness]

I was wondering why the dragon turns purple later on

[empty spade]

Is Adolphus worth leveling? I know he had a shield.

[somber harness]

Yeah great at shields

[onyx lintel]

Adolphus is one of the most important heroes in the game to have

[empty spade]

Oh awesome.

[somber harness]

My Felosia way better though

[onyx lintel]

Felosia can't heal 😂

[somber harness]

Adolphus don't get a chance to heal shield gone faster than they got put up

https://tenor.com/view/leonardo-dicaprio-shrug-shrugging-oh-well-smiling-gif-27275540

[empty spade]

Where is adolphus used

[somber harness]

Vortex he's good for wild team

[onyx lintel]

Vortex Dungeons OW Continental End boss

Basically everywhere. He's uniquely good at all the dungeons, esp AB

Having huge shields on tap is bueno

[ancient drift]

die too fast

[somber harness]

He's crap in goblins

And fire domain

Felosia is good though in both of them

[onyx lintel]

I used Adolphus in gobbo all s1