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waxen arch
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That way I don't invest in the wrong person and waste resources

mental thunder
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Left team is better. Schaltar would die horribly

tacit lion
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확인

old abyss
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Might wanna change ichuu to vani for dps also

waxen arch
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So vani would be better than haug then? That's who is in the first team

left trellis
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@waxen arch don't care what you say.

waxen arch
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Ok...

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He's a ranged rare that throws javelin Idk I saw a team that had him

mental thunder
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oh god, ew

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read their kits and you tell me which is better lol

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vani buffs your dauntless with attack speed and is a ranged attacker; she going to add more value

waxen arch
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Sounds good to me

mental thunder
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haug is just a turd ranged attacker lol

waxen arch
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Fair lol

mental thunder
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you can try ichiu vs vani and see what works better, most people go with vani

waxen arch
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Ty mate

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I'm gonna be building them up this week, I don't have a strong dauntless or thunderbolt team as my only legendary is garet the faceless

elder swift
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I got Ripekas as my 4th legendary, should I be happy?
He seems good in pvp and maybe trials but not really good in PVE and particularly WB, which is what I care most about, especially since his passive doesn't work there.
Or am I wrong? Is he useful against WB/chiefs?
Should I invest scrolls in him?

empty flame
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This is my first attempt at a chief challenge, and it seems like a low score for a good team. Does anyone have any pointers?

lunar gale
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Did you set your timers?, positioning is also critical

elder swift
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That's how I did it.

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Remove Garius and Shagg and put in something like Irina for the attack down and Querion for tanking/healingn then you should be able to do it

mental thunder
# empty flame This is my first attempt at a chief challenge, and it seems like a low score for...

i assume season 1, so this was vs auster. you dont really want melee against auster, so schaltar, sutha and shag at an immediate disadvantage unless you have 100% uptime on invincibility... which you wont. you'll also want a cleanse for tank (garius can himself but needs to have good timing) or he gets popped by auster heavy damage ult vs frost. vani, nimbus, tharivol, ivellios are ranged dauntless and the preferred for this type of thing... nathaniel for shields and extra heals or enna for extra heals and cleanse for tank

chrome zealot
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It's probably s1 like Mrow above stated

crisp garden
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Hi I just got Sutha, what tier is this hero?

empty flame
empty flame
empty vigil
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How can I make two teams for poison and lightning in the coming events?

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@mental thunder

mental thunder
# empty vigil

lightning you want vani + nimbus + shook + sifris + lydia or that bottom right hand corner elf dude rare tank. vs talwer it is position that matters.

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tank all the way to right, everyone else clustered up so only tank takes damage at all

for poison damage vs lossenia.. you want 1 melee there as well. so maybe oggok, volthug, dench, jathalea, eli?

civic moon
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Hi again guys.

Can someone assist me with a good Heretical Ruins team + formation?

mental thunder
limpid latch
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Thoughts?

tight glen
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Anyone could help me out with goblin? Stuck at Goblinlair III - Stage 1. Marked units is my current team. Maybe the team works if I 5 star Dane and get better gear? Or is there some easy changes I could do to beat all the way up to stage 3?
Edit: also, what would be the best arena team? currently running light/radi team.

mental thunder
mental thunder
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jsut kidding, need gear for that 😛 but that's a good team

tight glen
tight glen
mental thunder
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no just make her tanky enough to survive is all. the healing should do the rest. she is still dealing damage but make her have decent accuracy to land frost too

tight glen
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Alright! Any priority on best dps gear on that team?

mental thunder
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season 1 or 2?

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season 1, platinum knight on everyone except maybe 2 three ear sets?

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season 2, inventor on usha and sigrid; cyril set on debuffers

limpid latch
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Nastjenka, frubar,tamar/sutha,sifris, nathaniel

tight glen
# mental thunder season 1 or 2?

It's season 1. But I was more thinking like: It what order should I prioritize the gear on them? (Since i'm really lacking in good gear)
Like in my "current" team Lelwanis has the strongest dps gear.

summer wren
# tight glen Anyone could help me out with goblin? Stuck at Goblinlair III - Stage 1. Marked ...

I had this issue for a hot minute. For me, I worked on the 5/5 psy for attack boost and use a team of fire/poison for synergy. Any one solid tank that keeps the goblins up front and together in defense HP gear. I use Ergander here. Then in the back Sigrid and Dane for MVPs and also Horace and Letalis dressed for attack/crit rate/crit damage and no defense since the tank keeps them all bundled to the front. Can try to do food as well but that never seemed to help me like it did others.

crisp garden
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Hi what do you think of Sutha? just got it
Also need help on Goblin lair III stage 2 any ideas which team to use to get to stage 3? See below my heroes
Giblin lair III stage 2
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mental thunder
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sigrid, iola, usha, dorkruz, irina for goblins

crisp garden
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sutha can stand by herself or only woith other dauntless?

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with

mental thunder
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depends on the other dauntless what the synergy is

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read their kits 🤷‍♂️

crisp garden
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i have thurnus and altair,

mental thunder
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thurnus is melee so i wouldnt use him outside of vortex

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you should get vani eventually

crisp garden
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I have Vani the rare one

mental thunder
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well then you left her out 😉 she's better than thurnus

crisp garden
balmy spoke
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Is lelwanis/gaiolere/tioh or lelwanis/gaiolere/irzillas better for s1 resurgent dragon where melee isn’t so much a problem?

limpid latch
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lule

obsidian phoenix
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Could use recommendations on Shai nachtan, the chief boss challenge.

supple chasm
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Any low spenders able to clear fey 140+, I am stuck there and wondering if it is possible

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Still in s1 btw

onyx lintel
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With JUST necro do Thia Irma Meggan Deverick and Zadok

onyx lintel
midnight flint
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Hey guys I need some help with after game stuff still season 1 I have 18 ppl lv 100 I have 6 that I am working on I need help with making teams or if I already have good teams need help with properly gearing them or possibly Make them do more damage currently day 36 in season 1 and can't seem to do more than 10 mill on lv 3 vortex and currently stuck on lv 5 ice Piller stuck on 18 sun Piller and stuck on 31 in fire Piller
And also stuck in fey 78

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Is there anything here who could do a one on one and help me so I don't spam a chat with like 50+ pics of my gears my runes and my ppl lol

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I have 3 legendary I have all but 2 rares and I have 26 epics

mental thunder
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<@&1024931953465626644> spam

midnight flint
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Is there someone here that can help?? That's willing to go one on one for some help??

mental thunder
midnight flint
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Oh ur the go to dude ??

mental thunder
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I… often help people lol? Im not the only person but just didnt want to leave you hangin lol

midnight flint
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Oh ok I sent u a dm of what I was asking

mental thunder
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More generically i can give you some ideas… like if you are using dauntless dps, you build gambler lego sets with 100% crit, high attack and crit damage and high attack speed… any other dps you can go platinum knight set and focus skill haste instead of attack speed.

midnight flint
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Someone said come here and ask lol and was wandering if that was u

mental thunder
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One tank setup with 3 piece ancestral protection set; 4000-5000 defense and 80k hp

midnight flint
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Yea u already lost me I have no idea what ur meaning

mental thunder
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Im talking gear stat targets for your team to be successful

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Like if you use sigrid for goblins, platinum knight 3 piece set from venom dungeon… max crit, high attack and damage and use eyeball artifact. She should hit goblins for 100k+ damage each

midnight flint
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Yea I done like 2 weeks of just venom and can't do lv 7 rot or curse so any thing blue or green I gotten from events or rewards or whatever

mental thunder
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You need proper teams then

midnight flint
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Lol well like I was saying I have 18 ppl lv 100 I have 6 I am working on

mental thunder
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It always comes down to: team skill synergy > level > gear > affinity/positioning. You fix those things and you win

midnight flint
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I have 3 legendary 26 epics and all rares but 2

chrome zealot
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Felt frisky, chucked stegg in the mix

chrome shale
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Anyone know the best dps hero I have that I should level up and add to my team to beat 50 seconds in goblin layer II level 1 :p

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I tried those 3 lvl 50 attack heroes and none of them are doing the trick

mental thunder
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Martina is ok as your tank in goblins

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Letalis is a rare poison hero that may help in goblins.

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Sigrid, martina, letalis, corrin, fire main character…. Not great but not horrible

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Martina gets bracelet artifact for self healing, dont xp it

midnight flint
# mental thunder <#1180150041730617344>

Lol not really new 36 days old lol and I haven't gotten to the 80 pulls and each time before it disappears I done maybe 20 pulls each time lol currently on 25 of the 100 pull banner haven't gotten my 3 legendary so in 35 days did a total of 45 pulls at best lol and have gotten only 3 well 2 and a dupe lol cus I gotten Erich twice lol was 13 pulls gotten levios and on pull 10 and 24 I gotten jathlen and Erich lol

Slowly reading it and any time I get either dice I use them instantly lol

chrome shale
mental thunder
chrome shale
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That's true lol thanks coach (:

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Do I have any ice (or any except fire/poison) dps heroes worth leveling? I'm also building my flame domain team so if I could level one to use for both teams that would be amazing @mental thunder

mental thunder
chrome shale
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If I have 7 orange dice rn should I save for 20 or pull now for fun

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Ik they said save but how long does getting to 20 take

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Also what about eleuia her skills seem nice sorry for all the questions lol

mental thunder
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I dont know who eleuia is lol

chrome shale
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Oh well I mean 35 then

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She was on a YouTube video for best dps in game also lorarii

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She grants attack damage and speed up to all allies basically

elder swift
chrome shale
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Oh heck yes thank you!!! @mental thunder I'd been stuck on this for days

mental thunder
mortal mountain
mighty kindle
sonic knot
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Do I level up Lorentheel if I already have Alton at 90? Currently using Garius, Huberg, Philto, Alton, Voresh. Season 2. Thanks

azure sluice
azure sluice
sonic knot
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@azure sluice Would they work better together?

mystic chasm
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Any help with pillar of taint stage 57? Running Oggok, Zeffi, Frurbath, Iola, and the last one I changed many times Sigrid/Tharivol/Perkunte...Sigrid in stun set +stun from Iola, still not enough. Tried dps build, tried everyone with minimum 2.5-3k defense and 60k hp still they die like they are made of paper.

ebon thistle
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Anyone have experience with Eurion? Is he worth leveling up if there is no hope to scroll him anytime soon?

mystic chasm
onyx lintel
ebon thistle
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I'm missing your 1 and 4th troop, and again wouldn't be able to scroll him. Don't really have a great ice tank as of yet so thinking he could be worth it.

onyx lintel
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I would build him because ice has no other tank

mystic chasm
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I started using him really early, I had only Garius and him. He gives ally protection, and mitigates a lot of damage while giving himself a great shield. I didn't level him because ice has no other tank, but because he is great

ebon thistle
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Did you use him unscrolled for any time by chance? to date?

mystic chasm
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I only had Voresh for some small heals, that don't even go to tank a lot of the times, and still did almost full 5 minutes on continental boss, I guess people think he is mediocre, but for me he is great

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i did at start, as soon as I had scrolls, I used them on him

ebon thistle
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Cool, I'll get some exp going on him if nothing else.

mystic chasm
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and you don't need ice tank, just cause they are ice, you can always use some of the radiant tanks 😄

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plus we get Ardreth soon

ebon thistle
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Yeah, I don't know that I'll be active/competitive enough to score Ardeth, but 🤞

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I don't have Garius yet... ironically I was pulling on a banner that had him in teh drop table when I landed Eurion.

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Game was like, oh you want a this tank, have another. haha.

mystic chasm
empty flame
sharp path
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Is there any rhyme or reason to how Oggok’s BS bounces? Is it completely random? Bounces in some order starting with what is closest?

shrewd aurora
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Dhj

silk tapir
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#👏🏼

sly pebble
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May I ask some suggestion on team-line up to clear Goblin Stage 3-1. I'm currently stuck on my journal since I can't 3star stage 1.

normal merlin
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I want to push gear dungeons and vortex
I currently use Garius, Frurbath, Voresh, Sigird, Travler ( fire )
can u help with line up?

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Especially Grave of venom

safe nebula
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Garius,sigrid, traveler ice great trio

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Other 2 will depend on what u lacking in the battle

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I m farming venom 9 with sigrid, fuhrbath, ice traveler, gilian and natello

normal merlin
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Yes i want to use my travler as ice but im having trouble with the element synergy

mystic chasm
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because I use him for witch's remains and cyril's set, and he is the only source of heals, even though it's not much, it's enough in combination with Felosia

compact zenith
mystic chasm
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and Usha and Drizzt will be in my other frost team for otherworld exploration

onyx lintel
mystic chasm
# onyx lintel

Oh, wow, Ivellios too. If I had him my damage would go even more up

harsh crag
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Hi

mystic chasm
# normal merlin Can someone help again?

well, what problem do you have? You have 2 amazing tanks, Voresh to apply debuffs so Sigrid can ulti everyone. I don't see a problem, except that you don't have a lot of elemental synergy

normal merlin
mystic chasm
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well, do the max stage you can, get gear, upgrade it, and then when you have the power, move on to the next stage

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you have to go little by little. eventually, you hit a wall, then you need to farm the current highest stage you can, until you get better gear, or better substats and move on. i have no idea if it's your first season, what hero levels, but you need to go little by little. for example, you are farming domains and cannot go past stage 4, then go back to dungeons to farm gear, or go farm goblin to level your heroes to 100, then come back, etc.

serene forge
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I need ur opinion guys, atm for Vortex i'm running : Baldelle Girth Frur Catherine Shinna, all max skill but i'm scoring at max 27-28M coz of bad supporting, and no 5x affinity.
I was thinking into transition on Dauntless with Natj, Ivellios, Nataniel, Frur, Iola or another witcher applier or schaltar, but i've to invest 16 mastery scroll into this transition that are kinda valuable as f2p. If i get Garius, i've already the legendary staff, with the first comp i can easy strike the 50M so idk if make the transition

frozen olive
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Hey guys ! i would like some help on what team should i make for Vortrex with the units that i already have , from legendaries Trolgar and Gul;endre skills are maxed , its day 2 on the server so the resources are limited , What can you guys suggest me ?

azure sluice
mental thunder
azure sluice
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"dain, sigrid, zharloth, horrus, caraman = pvp team. congrats on silver lion"

You literally said this

mental thunder
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Yeah the fire debuffer

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In affinity…

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Zhar isnt but can be swapped for lucien if you want 🤭

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Im all for multiple jumpers

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Dane? Did i spell it wrong? Not my fault game has people same name two spellings. frog

shut magnet
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anyone got any tips for gearing champions i feel like im stuck in a rut between epic and legendary gear at the moment and cant get out of it lol

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stuck on like 4/5 grave of rot,curse etc

thin glen
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What’s a good goblin lineup s1

mental thunder
mental thunder
# shut magnet

for rot you have a couple options...radiance/lightning go sagomir tank, nimbus, shagrol, catherine, quarion. shagrol can be on accuracy setup so when he ults he applies defense down via crown/witch remains... nimbus go brrrrrr. time catherine's ult just before first boss debuff every turn; quarion heals just before boss chomps tank for full heal and defense up. rinse repeat. sagomir is your attack down, time his ult for just after he gets back from the chomp before first aoe on the team.

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or you go wild team and burn it down.

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errich on accuracy set to land defense down, flora full enlight dps, heksandra, horrus, adolphus. adolphus uses shield just before the boss ult chomp; heks heals after the first aoe. make sure horrus has enough accuracy to consistently land attack down with battle skill; if you are dying to too much damage, replace flora with sigrid with enough accuracy to land debuffs for more attack down uptime.

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VENOM: same team i suggested to you above, sigrid instead of flora for more attack down uptime. can put sigrid straight back row from middle main tank so she only targets boss with single target hits. errich right in front of her or off to the side doesnt matter, his ult should hit boss and 1 orb

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CURSE: use voresh instead of errich

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should be a good start

atomic smelt
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Hello hello. I’ve been playing for a while and I’m yet to commit to any of the legendaries I’ve pulled. I haven’t scrolled any of them as legendary scrolls are rare and I’m not sure whether it’s worth building a new team around the leggos i have. currently just run frurbath, sigrid, voresh, adolphus, and Megan in most content. Any advice would be helpful.

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No matter how I build them sigrid out dps’s them, is that because they’re not scrolled?

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Also summon teams seem like the weakest as they lack debuffs

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Still in S1 at the moment

mental thunder
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wish your screenshots werent so jumbled and were organized by element or affinity... really hard to pick out teams for you easily

atomic smelt
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I can redo

burnt bison
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Could I get some help on clearing goblin lair 3, I’m currently stuck on stage 2.

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Current lineup is Brody for “tank” adventurer, errich, sigrid, and Eli

burnt bison
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Redid with elemental affinity, I’m sorry for missing that on the first run

mental thunder
burnt bison
mental thunder
# atomic smelt

so you have a couple teams here that can work nicely together. frurbath, dubok, vicuc, eli, sigrid... eli is your defense down artifact holder, sigrid main dps. need frurb to land the attack down. isolde, adolphus, dench, jathalea, dane.

ivellios, schaltar, shagrol, clovis, quarion/catherine... shagrol holds your defense down artifact and is on accuracy build. all 3 need attack speed; schaltar built high attack and enlight, 0 crit and use ink pot.

mental thunder
# atomic smelt

meggan, dorkruz, auster, elvis, deverick.... really nice frost damage team. dork is your enabler, auster your dps. can make deverick your defense down artifact for bosses.

thia, premtsa, gaiollere, voresh, irma.... really nice summon team. whole team stays invis and immune to debuffs, only irma gets targeted.

mental thunder
# burnt bison

rava, usha, voresh, sigrid, iola.... usha just build tanky enough to survive, give her bracelet epic artifact that isnt even leveled at all. OP goblin team forever

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scroll them all, you'll never need another gob team and you have units there you'll use in all content

empty flame
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Thanks again!

midnight flint
mental thunder
midnight flint
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@mental thunder also dm u my 3 sets u recommend in DM lol and answer why crit was so low lol

mental thunder
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in this case positioning is easy, usha up front, other 4 in back. team synergy is fantastic; all 4 ranged have good damage and debuffs, and usha can debuff also. lots of aoe damage

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so then its gear 😉

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i.e. 0 crit 🤭

midnight flint
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But I used or did before we are changing everything had latnail Usha levios MC fire and sirgrid

mental thunder
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yeah i hate fire MC in there when there are so many other units to use

atomic smelt
formal yoke
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@mental thunder Im starting to think about my full fire/poison/lightning, etc teams. I know we don’t have enough heroes yet for a good five person team except perhaps for fire. As I start to build up my weaker ones, are there any heroes that I should focus on? About to post pictures

ionic quarry
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hi all, trying to create a 2nd fire unit for chaos shadow boss (S1). thinking of Felicity, Casper and Alfie. But not sure if Felicity, Casper and Rhash is better. This team will be supported by Isolde and Adolphus. so...

Felicity + Casper + Aflie

or

Felicity + Casper + Rhash

thoughts?

mental thunder
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for instance in vortex you could do: frurbath, adolphus, errich, tonalnan, follie. errich, tonal and follie are all on platinum knight sets or tonal can be on gambler; errich is on accuracy chest and accuracy rune, crown of unclean/witch remains artifact... target for errich is 200-250 accuracy and 100% crit; as much attack and cdamage as possible. follie and tonal are on 100% crit, 150+ cdamage and 3500-5000 attack as is possible with your gear... tonal on horseshoe artifact, follie on music box, eyeball or wine cup artifact.

mental thunder
# formal yoke

you can go wellby, tathlyn, sagomir, iola, quarion for a radiant team. sag would be tank in this case.

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rava, dorkruz, deverick, zharloth, edgar (rare ice tank)

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for most content you can go frurbath, sigrid, adolphus, zharloth, iola..... like fey. and just stun/fear the enemy and kill them with sigrid

mental thunder
candid dawn
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Just started S2
I need a team from one of those affinity to help progress on overall story and goblins

mental thunder
sharp path
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Need help getting best epics to roll instead of POS ones that just sit at lvl 1 😅😂😭

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💩💩💩

candid dawn
mental thunder
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but you do you 🙂

candid dawn
opal inlet
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Wondering what the best frost team option is here?
I got Lossenia - she looks like a great frost dps/setup, not sure which other options are best all round. Obviously voresh.
Also wondering who'd go well with radiance for s2 - I have rally and a few healers like Gillian (no garius)

wicked cipher
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Hi guys I need a good jalathea line up I only have frubath as epic poison, I though about drench frubath Adolphus, jalathea and Sigrid or eli

balmy spoke
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Is zarloth or meggan better for healing?

opal inlet
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Also removes defense down from your team

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Zharloth is a great all rounder. Healing is a fringe benefit not the main draw

balmy spoke
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Gotcha thank you!

mental thunder
midnight flint
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@mental thunder ok question it's now reset day and week I gotten my awards so for my artifacts
I have 6 options
Maybe more if we spilt them up I have 3500 crystals
Do I
A. Make witches remain one lv at 1800 don't have enough for 2 lvs from 17 to 18
B. Make music box 0 to 13
C. Make horseshoe from lv 1 to 13
D. Make ink pot from lv 2 to 14
E. Make mirror go from lv 7 to 15
F. Make scarab from lv 5 to 14

strange pewter
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don't you want to target lvling up in increments of 4?

midnight flint
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Not really I was focused on just one at a time lol with the rares then gotten epics and was told to do whatever I can to as many as I can do it gotten split then when I gotten my first legendary one was told to stop focusing on nothing else but that one so now it's kinda all over the place lol

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But he told me to get a few epics so they kinda low ATM and didn't know to stop what someone else said or work on the 2-3 that was recommended. Plus the ones I had put time in

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Cus the eyeball the crown and tiara are all lv 20 already

ornate steppe
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i have

traveller
sigrid
frurbath
heksandra
oggok

do u think i should swap my heks for thea

onyx lintel
ornate steppe
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who do u recom

onyx lintel
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An enabler for Sigrid prob

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show roster

ornate steppe
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sorry im new i dont know what enablers are lol

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wait after my mission

ornate steppe
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would be better if its poision or fire

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for 5 bonus

ornate steppe
balmy spoke
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For s1 copper, after the 50% mark, did y’all just keep same teams or build them more tankier?

primal moth
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I now have Karf additionally. Is he worth to scroll in my case? And is Quaesitia better then Horrus or Isolde as blocker?

tame swallow
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Hi

ebon fossil
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need help with pillar Radiance 40

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i am thinking of investing in awstin because he is the only person who can inflict heal prohibition

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is he the solution?

ornate steppe
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yall think i should pair trolgar with usha

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or trolgar with ice traveller is enough

misty wave
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i want to build a good poison team but im pretty early on

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any sugestions?

silent merlin
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Does nastjenka work in a ralley team?

old abyss
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Hi need advice, I am trying out for Irzzilas. And manage to hit 4m.

Should I change Torrin to another Wild?

blissful dagger
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dont change torrin if ur not hittin shainactan.. have u tried follie over adolphus?

old abyss
blissful dagger
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shai = undead so addt'l dmg to ur undead troops.. you have horrus, no need w/ brody.. i am doin this for irzillas..

felicity, rhash, caspar, horrus (5k def, 80k hp), estella (undead)

u only need 1 melee since his battle skill and ulti, are casted around him (if i recall correctly).. was reco'ing follie since she's the closes to do a single target dmg..

u using torrin behind horrus, will make horrus last longer

old abyss
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Alright so actually if I have Torrin I don’t need Aldo, so might as well change to another dps

azure sluice
ebon fossil
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dont have her T_T

brisk charm
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I scrolled him last season specifically because I didn’t have any other Heal Prohibition (got Nessa this season), but he’s just not consistent in keeping heal prohibition if it takes 2-3 cycles to kill the elemental and was having better luck just working on Survival + targeting the main boss with Ults

mental thunder
# ornate steppe

You are so early game that you have no 5/5 bonuses to get so just get 3-5, bring any dps with that team instead of heks. Preferably with debuffs… but frankly you dont have anyone worth investing in yet so just bring dubok for shields.

mental thunder
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But you need an enabler for both usha and trolgar to get more damage from them, preferably ranged. Lossenia lego is the best, followed by rava and dorkruz. Auster the lego can also be used that way even though like usha, he is better build just for damage output not accuracy.

For now can use accuracy on usha and build trolgar damage

gaunt birch
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I know Rose still gets much hate but does her healing and debuff remove work in the rot dungeon?

ornate steppe
mental thunder
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No no, sigrid still valuable. Just use usha not trolgar

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Trolgar is more pvp because he is a jumper and he isnt much of a frost enabler since he removes frost to deal more damage. Usha can enabler herself and should be fine early on, plus frost debuffs will help sigrid ult targeting

ornate steppe
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ohhh okok thanksss

ornate steppe
mental thunder
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that early on and in a team with sigrid, just make her accuracy chest and rest focus on attack. when you have epic gear at level 70, you can move to crit% hands isntead of attack. also go read my guide #1180150041730617344

balmy spoke
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When making dps units tanker, which stat do y’all sacrifice? Crit rate, ark, or crit dmg?

mental thunder
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i sacrifice damage and attack for defense and hp if i'm making them tankier. crit rate i never sacrifice.

shut magnet
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Anyone point out what’s I’m doing wrong on venom 7? I clear maybe 1 out of 5 attempts

ebon fossil
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for very stable runs in venom, i had megan, heksandra, nat/adolphys, 1 tank + 1 dps (sigrid works well enough)

mental thunder
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is it horrus dying quickly or are you losing a dps?

shut magnet
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The tank dies

mental thunder
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because of defense down i assume

shut magnet
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Yeah horrus dies

mental thunder
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have you tried using meggan instead of heks?

shut magnet
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I think so , that mean I need Megan

mental thunder
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and body body + hands are def% main stat?

shut magnet
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No I haven’t yet

mental thunder
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def main runes?

shut magnet
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Oh damn nah they arnt I’ll work on gearing him now

mental thunder
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team skill synergy > level > gear > affinity/positioning; your position looks ok, and affinity doesnt mean much in venom bc its so easy.... so that means gear because your level is high and team synergy is ok

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in epic gear you should have % stats for body and hands

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in season 1, epic gear you are using the green shield items x4 pieces for tanking until you have lego ancestral set x3

mental thunder
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even errich on accuracy setup using defense down artifact and positioned in the middle so he targets boss with basic attacks is easy enough there

ebon fossil
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well i used it for v9 early on

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slow but works when i had poor gear

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of course when you have better tanky gear... can swap healer for dps

mental thunder
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i used to illustrate how it was done in s1 with f2p team; meggan up top lowest hp high defense; horrus main tank, tonalnan/frurb as second melee next to horrus up front; sigrid straight back from horrus and errich right in front of her

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meggan removes defense down instantly, horrus with sufficient defense and banner or scarab survives first round easily enough, second melee up front forces the aoe to stay up front for easier healing; the two dps/debuffers target only boss with their basic attacks in that formation

shut magnet
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I’ll read it now @mental thunder but just so I know I want to try get epic gear with defense % on gloves and chest for horrus as a main priority

mental thunder
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target defense for venom 7 should be 3000 in epic gear

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and like 50k hp should be sufficient

shut magnet
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I’ve not got any green epic with the defense stat so I’ll just use what u can until I get better?

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This is him atm

mental thunder
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my concern is you are level 100 team..... i feel like you grinded low tier domains to get there instead of working on epic gear first at level 70-90 so that you could do higher tier domains for stamina efficiency...

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you wasted a lot of stamina is my inference

mental thunder
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it is probably because he is level 100......... his base stats already high.

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i'm going to go adjust my guide.

ebon fossil
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i think its just the def down causing the problem

shut magnet
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Yeah I did I just rushed 100 tbh and now I’m clueless on gear lolol

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You think it’s worth me farming venom at a lower level to get better epic gear then? Rather then a random set etc

mental thunder
shut magnet
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Thank you

mental thunder
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by 100 team you should have lego gear already

shut magnet
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Okay thank you I’ll try

ocean schooner
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I need help plus

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I'm stuck with 1 team fire/poison... finished the game and I'm close to quitting... Can't make another team

mental thunder
mental thunder
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and what week are you on in season?

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have you seen ultior event with chiefs yet or are you before then?

balmy spoke
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How is the camel bells artifact?

ocean schooner
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I just finished the quest line

mental thunder
ocean schooner
mental thunder
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ok so you are midseason

ocean schooner
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I need a purpose... After I've finished the game I don't know what to do anymore

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And my pulls are horrible,cabt make another team apart fire/poison

mental thunder
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durango, dench, eli, frurbath, adolphus = 1 team (poison damage)
tonalnan, errich, vicuc, dubok/follie, horrus = 2nd team (fire damage).... follie if your horrus and tonal survive ok, dubok if not. can also try heks here healing instead of vicuc, but i like vicuc's battle skill for attack down against endgame dragon.
rava, rowena/usha, meggan, gladros, dallbam = 3rd team (cold damage)
thia, zharloth, adrie, voresh, loris = 4th team (necro damage)
naguk, irina, nathaniel + 2 dauntless (you only have vani, so not yet)
garius, wellby, hegio, catherine/quarion, irina (replace irina with iola if/when you get her) = 6th team (radiance damage)

ocean schooner
mental thunder
ocean schooner
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I just finished the quest line

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Dragons?

ocean schooner
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I can't climb only with fire/poison

mental thunder
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and your vortex is pitiful with this roster, should be way higher. use the poison damage team i listed above 👌 durango is your main dps here... eli holds your defense down artifact and both eli and dench are high accuracy. eli also needs 100% crit for damage purposes. durango is very stat needy and needs high enlightenment (target is 400), high attack (4000) and 100% crit; as much crit damage as possible after that...

you can run durango on platinum knight set; eli can be in gambler; dench can be in either gambler or three ear set. adolphus can be in platinum knight, frurbath in ancestral protector.

mental thunder
# ocean schooner I just finished the quest line

finishing the quest line doesnt mean crap in this game, it just means you checked it off the list.. you have 42 more days in the season and the challenges are just going to start getting harder

ocean schooner
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I've built Durango for crit tho

mental thunder
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he needs all stats

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he's very stat needy unit but his potential is very high

ocean schooner
mental thunder
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his enlightenment is garbage dude....

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his body needs to be enlight main and you need like 400.

sharp path
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Does the Theodore TMR on passive work against world boss Ripekas? Or does the control get applied with too little ult meter for it to reduce it?

mental thunder
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read his skills:

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platinum knight set on him and he's going to do stupid damage with the right stats

ocean schooner
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Yes I've skipped enlightenment to have crit for the ulti recharge ,but if you say he does more dmg with elig... Il change .... So what armour is best for him ?

mental thunder
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300-400 enlight, 3500-4000 attack, 100% crit, as much crit damage as you can

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i've already said it twice, platinum knight

ocean schooner
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Bless you mate

mental thunder
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sacrifice the accuracy for more damage stats

ocean schooner
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Because I've been using singrid and my carry till now

mental thunder
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honestly you probably dont even need dench there for more poison stacks for durango, he's not a derivative damag euser

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you can probably go eli + durango + fire main character even

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fire MC damage going to come from battle skill mostly

ocean schooner
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Do I put the vile ink on Durango?

mental thunder
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NO no no no vile ink terrible for durango. he's a horseshoe user

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dench is ink pot

ocean schooner
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No vine dragon blood ? For the crit rate ?

mental thunder
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eli is witch remains/crown of unclean.

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you are thinking music box on durango, but no.. you should be using horseshoe if you can

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dench can be on gambler set with high attack speed so he does more derivative damage. he's high attack, high enlight with 0 crit%

ocean schooner
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I can buy it now if you said better

mental thunder
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eli is 100% crit but he needs accuracy for defense down artifact

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durango is 0 accuracy in this team; he just needs to be a high damage focus. crit, enlight, damage, attack

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dench is attack, enlight

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dont really need to worry about landing poison debuff in this team with dench bc his derivative damage is independent of needing poison debuff on target

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it is nice to have more poison damage ticking away but it isnt going to be your main source of score

ocean schooner
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Mate Eli is a rare

mental thunder
ocean schooner
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You telling me is better that singrid

balmy spoke
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Can anyone clarify mark of ice calamity artifact? Does the cold damage buff only apply to the wearers cold damage or all cold damage?

mental thunder
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sigrid is a 1x hit high damage but only 1x hit.... she's trash against bosses.

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she shines against multiple enemies when you can spray her ult to hit everything with a debuff

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i use eli in my vortex team.

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and i do 42m

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i use him the exact same way as i'm describing

ocean schooner
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Ah that makes sense,
Lol
With the crown artifact on him?

mental thunder
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yup that's the one

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horseshoe on durango for more crit damage and the activated effects... crown on eli; ink pot on dench

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you can go attack main body and hands on dench; accuracy main body on eli, crit% hands

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durango ideall you want crit DAMAGE hands and enlight body but you need 100% crit from sub stats on all pieces for that to work

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so worst case scenario, crit% hands, enlight body, enlight main rune and attack main rune. skill haste, attack% and crit% + crit damage subs on everything else

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he's super needy stat wise but his potential is massive

ocean schooner
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Fk I have a lot of changes to do just for the poison team

mental thunder
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gives you something to do 🙂

ocean schooner
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So Durango will be my DPS with Eli and dench+ ?

mental thunder
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yes, frurbath + adolphus

ocean schooner
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So I won't put my hero in there ?

mental thunder
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skill timing needs to be eli ults to apply attack down, then dench + durango use their ults.

ocean schooner
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Can they manage ?

sharp path
mental thunder
lime willow
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Hi

ocean schooner
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And this team can tackle the pillar poison/fire ?

mental thunder
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eli in 3-ear blue set; dench in gambler set; durango in platinum knight; adolphus in platinum knight; frurbath in ancestral protector

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for pillar, you may need to use your wild heroes follie + errich + adolphus + frurbath + sigrid

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and you put errich on crown artifact in a stun set (holy hunter, blue gear)

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this game is not straightforward brute force, you gotta strategize for different content

ocean schooner
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Yeah I never ever had the idea to check the rare heroes

mental thunder
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rares are every bit as important as epics and legos. it is not just about quality it is about skill synergy

ocean schooner
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Ok first I'll finish building for the vortex then the rest
Thx brother

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400 enlighten is nearly impossible 😂

onyx lintel
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Durango is awful with enlighten

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Build him full CR > ACC > ATK with CD sprinked in

latent isle
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Durango is godtier witches holder

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💪🐔

mental thunder
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poison basically going to be useless in vortex for him

prime wolf
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Question is critical damage or enlightenment better for her? I've been running enlightenment but I wonder if I'm doing it wrong? Also I changed out her enlightenment chest piece for defensive gear for outlands necrosis dungeon she was dying too fast

onyx lintel
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idk why krakens building him enlighten chest etc but I've done this testing myself and regardless of if he's enabler or main dps, enlight is a wasted stat on him, the modifiers are just too low

sharp path
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@mental thunder is there a good written guide breaking down the copper dragon?

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like all the mechanics and such

mental thunder
mental thunder
sharp path
mental thunder
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Its very simple really. Every attack is aoe. 2 debuffs until it reaches 50% hp then 3 debuffs. You need immunity or cleanse buff

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Dont need real tank, do need attack down aoe and preferably shields and healing

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Need to have candlestick and incense artifacts leveled

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And preferably a unit that has some ability to manipulate ult generation for themselves, team or the dragon

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To remove 2 stacks a turn every time

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Then it is just a 30 second rotation with 5 second weakness time

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Or 25 + 5 i forget it has been a month

sharp path
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I'm basically just looking for information about that 4x dragon buff you need to dispel:

  1. Can you use normal buff prohibition/dispel moves to deal with the dragon buff?
  2. It looks like every instance of ult up/down gets rid of one of the buffs. Do you still gain the benefits of ult up/down, either before or after getting rid of the dragon buffs?
  3. Is dragon immune to ult meter slow? Does that also interact with the 4x dragon buff?
mental thunder
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No you cant dispel it you use ult manipulation to remove the stavks

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And it doesnt negate the effect of the skill it just removes a stack too

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The ult recharge debuff does nothing but actually slow the ult meter it does nothing to the stacks

sharp path
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so he's not immune to the recharge debuff?

mental thunder
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No but you do that and your timers will be off

sharp path
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so you actually don't want to slow him down? or you'd just need to account for that?

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since he gets the big 50% damage taken debuff I could see that

sharp path
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like I could def see having ultimates go off twice per rotation as great

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but the battle skill I assume is more specific to having ult up/down or other relevant effects? Or maybe timing with the 35-second rotation?

mental thunder
sharp path
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AHHHHHHHHHHH

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so even the artifacts trigger that buff removal

mental thunder
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Or if you have meggan and irma in a team they may not even need either of them

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Ergander and felicity are another two, and wellby but he is inconsistent without rally

sharp path
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just by virtue of themselves generating that effect, not giving more instalces of the BS

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which it also does

mental thunder
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Right, that is nice to have but not why you care

sharp path
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hm, something to chew on

mental thunder
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Dragon weakness gives you 5 seconds of respite from damage coming in to recover and 50% damage bonus

sharp path
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trying to plan out my copper teams a month early

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planning around the blessed banners to see where my gaps are

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and which epics are most important to target

mental thunder
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I used nimbus, shagrol, nathaniel, iola, acilia i think; acilia held incense, nathaniel candle, iola witch remains and two dauntless dps standard gear; 40m+ score

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Garius, thelendor, irina, ichiucatl, sagomir. Sag on witch remains, irina on candle, garius on incense

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30-40m team

sharp path
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Is it unlimited teams? Or max number?

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looks like might be 6?

onyx lintel
ocean schooner
onyx lintel
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If you're building him solely as dps, not an enabler or witches at all, the do CR > CD > atk% in that order. Need 100% CR, aim for 200 cd and 5k atk

ocean schooner
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Durango is my only decent carry in all of the dungeons

onyx lintel
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Enlighten is useful but only ancillary

ocean schooner
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So 100 crit and accuracy

onyx lintel
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If you're building him pure dps then skip acc

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You don't need any acc on him for dps build

latent isle
ocean schooner
onyx lintel
latent isle
# onyx lintel

Zam, I have also 6k attknbut thanks to ins 2 and 1900 def

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That one looks stacked af

onyx lintel
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Your best general team atm gonna be Isolde Iola Sigrid Voresh Heks

misty wave
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im new to the game and was just wondering if it was good to run aa poison team with Horace Meggan Heksandra Lorarii and Altin

onyx lintel
onyx lintel
latent isle
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Ins 2 ivellios was my best decision in this game

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Extra proc chance makes him do as much DMG as my nastjenka

misty wave
onyx lintel
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Show your roster

cosmic jewel
misty wave
onyx lintel
cosmic jewel
onyx lintel
misty wave
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Fmc?

pallid snow
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..

onyx lintel
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fire main char

misty wave
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thank you

cosmic jewel
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So for Sigrid should i go for gambler gears or crit gears

halcyon creek
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what's the best fire/necro team to build around ghul and karf? no brody, deverick, kyrza, zhar'loth

misty wave
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is dench any good?

prime wolf
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@mental thunder do you remember pillar of light stage 47 in s1? I'm stuck there and I can't find any combination to get passed it. I get to third wave and then they nuke me no matter what I try

balmy spoke
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Which wild epic would be good with Caspar and Tonalnan in copper?

mental thunder
mental thunder
mental thunder
prime wolf
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The problem is even with Catherine they silence me too much and then nuke me. They have two Lola's in the backline

mental thunder
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gotta use speed and stuns to target them 🤷‍♂️

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irina or iola yourself or both in stun sets, stagger your stuns so one lands then the other and try and dps them down first with ults

prime wolf
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Am I going to need someone with a taunt? Because the other 3 ignore my tank and destroy my supports and dps

mental thunder
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idk what those other three are but if they are sagomirs.... those are jumpers and go for highest attack lol

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otherwise hegio and martina ult to try and hit as many targets with their aoe as possible, so gotta spread out

prime wolf
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I think they are sagomirs

hazy rune
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Оро

sour oriole
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@onyx lintel If you had Garett would you put him in your Dauntless team? Instead of Sutha?

dark pike
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Best Vortex Team with this?

mental thunder
#

that take pic with phone of pc screen meta lol

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you know there's a feature on pc called snip, just window button + type snip and grab a screenshot

mental thunder
# dark pike

but anyway. bleddyn, gerthin, zhorak, garius, sagomir/voresh/catherine - figure out what the team needs more: debuff block for the defense down, attack down or offheals and better defense down from artifact

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can prob go sagomir and make him defense down arti holder

sharp path
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@mental thunder does the TV boss actually suffer the slow from ult recharge penalty? I can see the debuff but doesn’t seem to change anything

latent isle
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Need a pillar/ bion team bois

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Can only 15m bion

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@mental thunder where are you when I need you the most

misty wave
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i have a meggan on my team as a sup but i just pulled a deverick should i swap them out my other sup is heks

sullen bay
#

What gear sets and artifacts are people outfitting Phaessa with? I only have epic artifacts

mental thunder
# latent isle

Irma, ripelkas on stun set, voresh on stun set with witchs, zharloth, vinyara… have rava and rowena ready to swap in for floors you need more ranged dps

mental thunder
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Meggan and deverick are a good start to a team with ice traveler and then a tank + dps

mental thunder
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Woops didnt see you had ghulende too, definitely slot ghul instead of irma and run ripelkas main tank

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And yeah ofc worth scrolling they are all op legos

latent isle
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Ghúl fully scrolled

misty wave
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is it worth replacing heks with derveick my currant team is horrus heks meggan horace and dench

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also is torrin any good because i just rolled him

onyx lintel
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he's great

misty wave
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should i replace meggan or replace heks with him?

onyx lintel
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both

misty wave
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so i run him as my only support?

onyx lintel
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Yes, he's probably the best single healer in the game

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Oggok only better because immortality

misty wave
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so should i put another dps on my team or another tank

mental thunder
#

Oh torrin

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@misty wave Torrin, ice main character, deverick, tank, dps and you have a solid early team

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But you not actually showing us what you have for us to suggest anything just asking about specific units you have, and that’s a mistake

silent merlin
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@mental thunder hey there! can I ask for some tips about my box? Pretty early game but wanna focus on 1 team but can't decide what's best

mental thunder
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Pretty much top tier as you can get for vortex.

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Idk if nast or schaltar are more dps overall

mental thunder
silent merlin
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Zeffi not Gillian?

mental thunder
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Acilia can heal you up while you wait out the invincible

small dragon
mental thunder
# misty wave

Reset the epic summoner dude he stinks, and noteera, the common troll and the poison dude next to the summoner you wont use them likely ever

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Just use horrus tank for now with the team i told you

ocean maple
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If I have perkunte shainachtan and nissa, is thunderbolt worth building?

cerulean gyro
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Right now I'm running Frurbath, Felicity, Errick, Rhash and 'Main character' (swapping in Catherine for Rhash or MC when Frur can't tank it) and I'm stumped in the Corruption Meteor Field. I can post my available roster and would appreciate reccs if anyone doesn't mind. Thanks in advance

cerulean gyro
limpid latch
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@keen marsh

keen marsh
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how dare you ping me 😠

what content this for? rot or general or?

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u got shinnah so cant rly go wrong with gert + shinnah + garius for basically all content

limpid latch
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For venom9 just need tankier garius

keen marsh
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gert might suck at v9, esp with ur units

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think ur biggest issue is how spread ur resources are tbh

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u only have 1x 5* and u have 25 units above lvl 1

limpid latch
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Will farm goblins and shards this weekend

limpid latch
keen marsh
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yea if i was u i would 100% focus on levels n nothing else.

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are u even at lego gear boost yet?

limpid latch
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Soo Gert shinnah to 5s now?

limpid latch
keen marsh
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where lvl9 dungeons have chsnce for 2x lego gear and lvl8s can drop a full piece

limpid latch
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Ohhh ye

keen marsh
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has that happened for u yet?

limpid latch
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Got L vemom gear

limpid latch
keen marsh
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dam, u hella behind

limpid latch
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Yeh i dont have much time during week cuz army soo i play mostly on weekends 😔

keen marsh
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yea get some levels for a team to do v9, not sure how well get preforms but maybe

garius/shinnah/voresh/gert + atk down(rose?)

same team can then do c9

r9 only needs to remkve voresh for a cleanser

hr9 it should work maybe

keen marsh
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should work, feel free to ask more advice.

mamba always good source of advice too, others kinda sketch 🤔

azure sluice
quick flower
#

What epic hero would be the best pick from the 0.99$ chest ?

shut magnet
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I still use him now in almost all@my teams too

balmy spoke
#

Is there an optimal spot in resurgent dragon where philto or zadok can hit two parts?

little bolt
#

1565

keen marsh
mental thunder
fleet gate
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HaKaN55

latent isle
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Any info on S3 btw?

frank mauve
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Ice blast are good? gotta Shinnah and Zhorak as legend and Gerthin

radiant gorge
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I feel like I’m spinning my wheels in S2 I can only beat the elemental caves on level 3. I’m stuck on the goblin cave level 2-4. Cave of venom I’m stuck on level 6. Just not sure what the best route to go is. Who to level and what I try and complete first. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

sullen bay
#

Can anyone recommend what epic tier artifact to use on Phaessa?

mental thunder
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you also have 2/3 of the burn dream team, so i recommend ghul + durem + aeschetius + beags (rare goblin burn) + frurb. that should be very low braincells play also and should be fine destroying ice domain

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goblins you can even go burn x3 same ones, sigrid and voresh. aeschetius is more than tanky enough to be your up front and he constantly aoes, so that's going to steamroll goblins. just give him bracelet with no levels on it for artifact

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those 2 teams and gob setup should carry you to mid season.

polar aurora
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burn team for goblins yes it's very good

mental thunder
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venom use the same IB team, should make quick work of it. venom hits harder bc more enemies but no defense down to worry about 🤷‍♂️ i run a poo team and it works fine there

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just farm some tank gear up in curse first so garius stays alive

polar aurora
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you can also do the frost team for goblins with the epics that you have

mental thunder
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idk frost going to be lackluster vs alton boss, so not as useful - he'd be building a team just for gobs, and burn going to work better vs irzillas boss anyway

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i'd stick to IB because that'll be his vortex team

polar aurora
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both frost and burn aren't going to be super effective on single target but it's true that his burn roster will perform better on single target than his frost roster

mental thunder
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just from testing wild vs burn on irzillas boss myself, they were about the same... except my wild team was 100 and my burn team was 90 lol

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issue is aescetius being melee kinda annoying bc skeletons target him, but because his basic attacks are aoe, he kills them faster.

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so handling the crowd control on that boss is easy button if you have the stats

polar aurora
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the thing is whale experience doesn't apply to other players

mental thunder
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meanwhiel i thought you knew that by now lol

radiant gorge
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Amazing thank you very much @mental thunder I’ll plow through and get the IB all leveled then go from there

polar aurora
pale heart
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Help plz. Currently using the only leveled ones

lime wasp
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Sigrid, Irina, Meggan, Heksandra, Usha... Good rares

mental thunder
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yup almost called it lol

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isolde, sigrid, meggan, deverick, usha; that'll carry you through story.

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@pale heart

goblin team: usha, sigrid, irina, dench, deverick

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can tweak it later as you progress and get more heroes

pale heart
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Ty ty. That's super helpful 😊

lime wasp
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I'd use main character instead of Dench for versatility, but up to you ofcourse

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And note: if you're struggling with elemental dungeons, you can swap MC for another type to upgrade there
Meaning: MC is useful for all the elemental dungeons and can be upgraded by all of them too

mental thunder
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yeah MC can kill faster in general but i like dench for 2 aoe debuffs for sigrid for multiple waves

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so depends on speed

pale heart
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And I just realised I can no longer reset characters for free so I'm building from scratch 🤣😂 oh well I'll start building now

mental thunder
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its fine, you wouldnt have gotten much back anyway

shy scroll
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Do you think harían Can be replaces by a dps hero?

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Garian*

mental thunder
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where's heksandra? and why are your ranged units all groupe dup togetehr, spread them out

shy scroll
mental thunder
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you seem to think rarity means good

shy scroll
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I was thinking to use vasska instead of Garian

mental thunder
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god no

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just post all your units please

shy scroll
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Ok thanks

shy scroll
mental thunder
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usha, irina, zharloth, duling, thunder traveler

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spread out the ranged attackers in the back; reset all the other heroes

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and use the XP to improve the ones i listed

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if you are having trouble surviving, drop usha and add heksandra

shy scroll
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That combos can be used also in arena and all the things? I m in a day 3 yet

mental thunder
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dont worry too much about arena, just slot the same heroes and it wont matter much

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not for a couple weeks anyway; just try to win and use your tokens - if you put gear on your heroes in arena, you are likely to be one of few who remembered to do that

shy scroll
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Thanks, now I will try to improve them and change my team, thanks again for that tips

mental thunder
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dont forget to read through my guide, it will help

shy scroll
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I reset 2 heroes, but look likes I didn’t revive back all the exp stuff, it’s normal?

mental thunder
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i think it only gives you a portion back

shy scroll
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Another thing, I should use the Cristal and bring all heroes up to same level?

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Also if I m really new

sullen bay
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But it will consolidate. So if you put in 100 of the mini xp potions for example it might give you 10 of the medium or whatever the conversion is

mental thunder
regal mist
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Can someone suggest team for goblins and vortex?

shy scroll
mental thunder
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vortex: furbath, flora, errich, follie, dubok... replace dubok with adolphus eventually. errich is going to be your accuracy unit to hold witch remains/crown of unclean to land defense down. flora your main dps, follie secondary

thick loom
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Could use some help with a poison team. Looked at tier list to get here.

Main focus is having one for Chieftains/world
See attached for my roster.
Malak, Vicuc, Heksandra are done
Sigrid seems like a no brainer because of overall value and value in other places.
So last spot... Rank serms to be

  1. Horace 2. Corinn 3. Eli

Corinn is fully scrolled from last season when I was being dumb.
I have tons of rare scrolls.

Do either of those factors, or overall synergy push them above Horace?

mental thunder
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i also dont know why you forcing your entire team to be poison when the only thing that you get a bonus to is the DAMAGE done to the boss

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so instead of 2 healers, could be bringing another dps

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and for ripelkas, you really want ranged, so maybe eli?

thick loom
mental thunder
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gotta start getting creative with teams; you need 3 the first week, 4 second week, 5 and then 6 by end of the event. you ideally want 22m scores on each one targeted every week to score well in the rankings for event an dwork toward the legendary hero available in the shop (ultior season 1)

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then when you reach otherworld, you can do these bosses as many times per day as you want, except each time has to be a unique team.... so most people shoot for 12 total teams.

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22m score on one is great, and then second one at least 7m, shoot for 11m

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this directly affects your rewards and rankings (more rewards) for the event AND for the server in total, as you approach end of season

thick loom
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Thanks! I am Week 2 of Season 2. I messed around in S1 and cdefinitely did not optimize.

mental thunder
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oh i see, then you have an idea what to expect.

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but how do you have so few heroes if you are in s2...

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just going into s2 and by week i guess 5 or 6 now i've pulled probably close to 500 purple dice, 140 helio and ofc 5 weeks of horn x2 per day

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eh you know why, nvm i just filtered mine and i dont have much more than you do

thick loom
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I have a decent amount, but missing the key ones like Garius and Adolphus.

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Can you see my heroes? How?

mental thunder
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in your screenshot

thick loom
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Ah...

mental thunder
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this is mine and i have 1 row of commons below that

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so not that much more tbh

thick loom
mental thunder
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oh i'm sure there is, just not for us 🫣

thick loom
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As you can see lacking legendaries and some key Epics

sullen bay
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I need guidance on building my fire/necro team for the Adreth event. Will post pictures of what I have access to in a moment.

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I do not have scrolls to boost the legends. They have alreay gone to other heroes

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Any help would be appreciated

mental thunder
# sullen bay

well fire damgae and necro damage are going to be 2 things

sullen bay
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Right, but these are the two sets I have been saving to level up because I'm just not sure which direction to go with either

mental thunder
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zharloth, deverick, meggan, questa, irma/kyrza is a team that can achieve 22m score if you use the right positioning and gear setup

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kyrza being the reward for i think fey 80 or pillar 60

sullen bay
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pillar 60. Haven't grabbed her yet

mental thunder
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she's a good melee dps and attack down debuffer, she can hold defense down artifact

sullen bay
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Ok cool.

mental thunder
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for fire damage, you are up against irzillas with summoned skeletons to deal with (and need to clear them quickly, so aoe preferable)

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isolde, adolphus very strong there but you lack burn heroes

sullen bay
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Yeah I'm pretty weak in the fire heroes

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Adolphus is the only "good" one I know I have

mental thunder
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isolde and adolphus together are very strong

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and you could maybe run beags + araces burn team but.... idk

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there's percival rare burn guy too, i just dont think that team gets you 22m but you can try

sullen bay
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For the first week of the event what are the best 3 bosses to target?

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My teams are lightning and ice heavy on damage

mental thunder
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irzillas is actually fairly easy, and i'd say talwer is the easiest to cheese with crappy heroes

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but the rest are brutal.

solemn flame
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top line is my current team, could I please get some help creating a stronger team if possible, since I did just get some new heroes

boreal valley
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Да@mental thunder @mental thunder @mental thunder

mental thunder
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lossenia i cant get to 11m with my poison team; just really hard to get ranged poison damage and consistent debuff immunity or cleanse with teh frequency needed with poison/lightning affinity. shainactan sprays out thunderbolt debuff, also becomes problemative for melee specifically... there are some interesting cheese teams that require no legos but i dont have zharloth so that's tough for me specirfically but you may have an easier time there for necro damage. alton is bs, all his attacks are full screen aoe, so you cant hide your squishy dps anywhere... and he is ice damage, so you want to just ice blast burn him as fast as possible and bring voresh to buff block him so he cant get rally himself, which reduces his damage output.... buff block, defense down from voresh and then attack down SOMEHOW and then tank/heals and ice blast. garius can be huge there to save you 1 hero slot. then you have journ, who is annoying with his positioning needs and how he punishes anyone in that aoe....... so you have to use ranged dps, which isnt great because if you dont have philto you basically have garbage units to use.

mental thunder
mental thunder
solemn flame
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I'd say arena

sullen bay
solemn flame
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for now I am having an easy time progressing in story, but I am still relatively new

perhaps a team for the vortex as well, apart from arena

mental thunder
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ok so for arena early game i tend to have people use a jumper + sigrid + debuffer + tank... in your case your jumpers are limited to shagrol. he's not great in pve, so can leave him no xp and just use him in pvp team since he scales up level. sigrid, zharloth, ergander, shagrol, iola.... iola is your debuffer, she needs to be fast and high accuracy, high attack and decent crit% would be nice. zharloth build fast, high accuracy and high attack, decent crit would be nice also. ergander you want high defense and accuracy foremost, then resist, hp and attack after that. sigrid you want decent accuracy to land heal prevention on tanks like garius... but your focus is crit, attack, damage foremost.

solemn flame
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cool, I will work on that

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any ideas for vortex? currently pushing about about 2.5mil in level 2

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although vortex will require exp so that will be a slower grind

mental thunder
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vortex team you have some potential for both wild and dauntless........

dauntless: garrett, nimbus, iola, ichiucatl, berrik.... not my fav team only because healing and tanking requires you to have 2 heroes to do the job that garius can do by himself if you had him... so you kind of lose efficiency there and that will affect your damage output. if you did pull garius, replace berrik with him, drop ichiucatl and use vani (rare dauntless) or even shagrol in place of her.

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wild: isolde, tonalnan, rhash, errich, heksandra........ i'd want to replace heksandra with adolphus (epic shielder) when you get him. in this team, errich is on an accuracy build and uses crown of the unclean or witch remains artifact to apply defense down. isolde is your attack down and shields, heks is heals, rhash and tonal are your primary damage.

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it should be easy in legendary gear to get errich to 200-250 accuracy, 100% crit and maybe 3000 attack, 100 crit damage. tonal you only need the stat sheet to show 80% crit since she gets 20% from her passive. tonal also gets horseshoe artifact for more damage. rhash is huge single target damage, crit 100%, attack, damage.... full attack mode

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that's a great wild damage team, survivabliity without adolphus is the only real challenge but eventually you should be good

solemn flame
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interesting, considering I did 40 pulls today and don't plan on pulling for a while, which would you personally shoot for as of right now?

mental thunder
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i'd use the wild team over the dauntless team

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without garius, its a low ceiling

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that wild team will go 30m in vortex IV with good gear easily

solemn flame
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Awesome, thank you for the help!! Much appreciated!

yeah, I've noticed killing garius in arena is so damn difficult. That guy is a beast

mental thunder
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he's easy with the right counters; bring sigrid with accuracy that is more than his resist, done

solemn flame
mental thunder
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wild

mental thunder
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dauntless if you had garius and nathaniel easily that as well

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garius and iola would get your through vortex III

solemn flame
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well I have taken pics of the chat, you've been a massive help! I know what to focus on now, tysm.

polar aurora
polar aurora
mental thunder
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buff block can do same

polar aurora
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It doesn't matter because his ulti heals him full and his team

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That's why he is so good

mental thunder
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i deal with him easily, partly due to being able to prevent him from healing 20x 2000+ hp just from tank, healer, debuffer poking him a few times each so he is outhealing my dps basic attacks

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sigrid already in my team bursting him but it can take 2 ults to do it

polar aurora
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The biggest counter to Garius is having high single target damage, for example characters that ignore defense like Felicity, or killing his team with good aoe, or killing his team with jumpers like Nastjenka/Shagrol/Questa/Caraman

mental thunder
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so having the heal prevent on him will reduce the burden of that

polar aurora
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It just doesn't counter Garius

thick loom
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Sigrid has been key for me countering Garius. Could not before. Absolutely can now

mental thunder
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yeah i disagree, sigrid helps counter him

polar aurora
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yeah I'm not buying it. You're telling new players to bring heal prohibition against a tank that self cleanses and heals full, that's not a counter

sullen bay
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which often accounts for a lot of his healing too

polar aurora
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It doesn't change that Garius specifically counters healing prohibition by self cleansing

sullen bay
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He does for hit ult yes, but not if he has it applied between ults

polar aurora
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Well I'm sorry but Garius' main strength relies on his ult

sullen bay
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Garius is good even against heal prohibition, but he does have that small vulnerability between ults

polar aurora
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One thing you could argue is prohibiting his team's healing

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but it doesn't directly counter Garius' himself

sullen bay
mental thunder
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sure he cleanses the debuffs then heals, but put it like this. garius has 80k hp. sigrid ult does 50k. garius heals 40k with ult. but he also pops heal on hit buff that gives him back like 2000 per hit on him. any unit not dealing more than 2000 to him per hit is healing him net gain. tanks are healing him net 1000 or more, same as healers. so if a basic attack is 1 every 2 seconds and the buff lasts 10 seconds, that is 5 hits for 10,000 hp healed and 5000 loss. net 5k heal over 10 sec. and that is 2 people attacking him.

in my team i have sigrid dps doing like 3k per hit basic. acilia tank doing 700-900 hp. ergander doing 700-900... voresh doing 1000-1200 per basic..... and then lothair doing 2000-3000 per hit. so math that up. 9000~ per 2 seconds damage done from 5 hits, 10,000 healed. net heal +1k every 2 seconds. i'm actually HEALING garius 1k every 2 seconds for 10 seconds, so he ends up +5k just from basic attacks. now prevent that healing. now i've dealt almost 20,000 in those 10 seconds just from basic attacks. and instead of him being at 40k before he ults to full 80k, he's at 20k and ults to 60k. and then i apply another sigrid ult down to 10-20k and heal prevent.... and then my team pokes him to death in 10 seconds.

so yeah it makes a difference, there's the math

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not to mention i bring ergander to taunt him and hope that ult goes off as garius ult is almost full to delay that heal

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the only time i actually lose battles with garius are when he has very high resist and my sigrid cannot land heal prevent and my voresh doesnt dispel his buff or buff block him or land defense down. in those cases, he outheals me and i lose. very infrequent, maybe 1 in 10 or 15 garius but it 100% is a loss due to lack of debuff on him not because of lack of burst damage. no one is oneshotting a garius 100k damage with a sigrid

polar aurora
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I'm not fully convinced because to me Garius' biggest strength is his heal burst that he has with his ulti but I guess it makes sense to some extent if the battle skill causes trouble to your team

lime wasp
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Healblock gets dispelled though. It only helps with his BS healing

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Which is also big & annoying, sure. But it doesn't block the big heal

polar aurora
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And atleast Sigrid puts healing prohibition to all debuffed targets, so he doesn't heal his team

mental thunder
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right, that's a lifesaver most times because they die to my lothair aoe right after even if garius heals up.

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luckily sigrid also can land the heal prevent on her battle skill, allowing me to chip away at garius while i wait for ults to recharge

lime wasp
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And next week Ardeth + Garius. Enjoy for the rest of DH's existance

polar aurora
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what does Ardreth do again ?

mental thunder
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increases the healing lol

lime wasp
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Standard arena def for 80% of the playerbase is my assumption

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And after some stacks, increases RES

mental thunder
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yeah its gonna suck

polar aurora
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my dauntless has no issue against this kind of team, the problem is when u bring Tamar or things like that

lime wasp
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Will need DEF ignore or you're doomed

mental thunder
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garius, ardeth, elecebre, phaessa, mithrasea

lime wasp
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Phaessa + Ardeth + Garius and for this season, add Felosia and... Elecbre? frog No one will hit that (assuming you have all the champs)

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It's an undying comp, so Felosia > Mithra

mental thunder
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down in bronze wolf l they have them and inspired

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#s2stinks

polar aurora
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Elecebre is a big issue but without her the team you just said is free food to my Nastjenka Tharivol

mental thunder
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i see you havent met phaessa yet

lime wasp
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This ^

polar aurora
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I don't remember her entire kit

mental thunder
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she gives you cancer

polar aurora
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let me check

mental thunder
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battle skill is damge reduction 30% and damage delay 40% lol

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turns 40% burst damage into damage over 5 seconds so you spread it out, gives time to regen it back up

errant umbra
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☺️

mental thunder
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oh and that's her battle skill. and targets full screen

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and this is her scrolled bonuses

lime wasp
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So however fast you are, Phaessa is faster

polar aurora
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blind to all enemies is a problem

mental thunder
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she's just a problem

lime wasp
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I play on S3/S4/G1... almost all Phaessa

polar aurora
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I think my dauntless team steal beats that, the dps is really good

lime wasp
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Let's say: 50%+ of the teams

lime wasp
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Famous last words

polar aurora
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the problem is when people add things like elecebre, tamar, and other aoe that reduce attack/cc

shy scroll
mental thunder
sullen bay
lime wasp
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Tamar was queen S1. S2 she's easilly countered by... Let's see: Phaessa?

polar aurora
lime wasp
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Oh and to top it off, you can nuke teams with Phaessa too. Great dmg dealer

polar aurora
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I'm just speaking for my dauntless team

mental thunder
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tamar is gutting me s2 but only because i'm forced to hit her since like everyone has her 😢

reef cloak
shy scroll
lime wasp
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People hardly attack me. I run Lucien, Phaessa, Felosia, staff Garius frog

polar aurora
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does Phaessa passive work on rally ? in which case Lorentheel is not garanteed granting rally ?

sullen bay
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I would love a legandary dupe for a staff. I got lucky for the s2 pulls and was able to get a witch remains

sullen bay
lime wasp
sullen bay
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It says any buffs or any debuffs so 🤷‍♂️

polar aurora
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that's powercreep

lime wasp
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I used that a few times already

mental thunder
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confirmed bad game

lime wasp
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FLEE FOR YOUR LIVES!

sullen bay
lime wasp
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Seriously: yes

mental thunder
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threads about nerfing sigrid make me laugh in context to phaessa

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she's the worst.

lime wasp
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Or best

polar aurora
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you do need to drop Phaessa before using her

mental thunder
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or best.

lime wasp
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Or worst

sullen bay
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No shhhhh I just pulled her the other day. Let me enjoy her before the nerfs

mental thunder
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now youre the worst

polar aurora
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Honestly I have no problem with Phaessa and other legendaries being strong as it's only the whales who will abuse it

lime wasp
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Or best

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Ok I'll stop 🙈

mental thunder
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too bad everyone is a whale s2 lol

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except for when they arent and they are sad

analog minnow
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@mental thunder could I get your take on which units I should build next for chief challenges? I’ll need 3 teams for this week and 4 for next, out of these elements (no good rally option and doing ice blast too)

lime wasp
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Frur + healer can 5min Talwer, add 3x ranged DPS.
Necro isn't too hard either, get Adrie + Questa + Ghul'ende for easy timing lock.

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And you didn't post ice/rad

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Ice is quite easy, use IB champs and only a little bit of defence

mental thunder
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ice killin me, rad killling me, necro killin me, poison killin me lol

lime wasp
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Haha, weak!

polar aurora
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Deverick for those bosses is rly good attack penalty guy, highly recommand

lime wasp
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Or skill issue, or both

mental thunder
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we just need 3 devericks

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i could show you my struggles if you care

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but i'm good for 3 more resets so w/e, i just took the L and 7m scores and walked away lol

lime wasp
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I'll help, but rather on a thread as then I can focus more instead of treating you like a random

polar aurora
mental thunder
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i am thinking next week i'll worry about it and just hoard xp til then because i've bashed my head for 2 days on this

lime wasp
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Hehe, XP is always the way to go. I'll have 7 teams for 5x 22M+ and 1x... Idk yet. Lossenia is hard

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I'm at 7M atm, so I'll have to poach from other teams or build new champs for it

mental thunder
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she stinks. no good ranged poison potential outside of legos and even then twitch and vicana are.... ehhhh

lime wasp
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Avg of the other teams is 40M though

mental thunder
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i can get 22m from lightning with doodoo units so that pleases me

lime wasp
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Yeah Talwer is very easy. Frur+Viccuc+Iola is an easy strat

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Anyway, I'm outa here. Hit me up if you want to spar about teams 😉

mental thunder
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🍻

sullen bay
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So about Phaessa... what gear do you see others running on her? and what artifacts?

mental thunder
# analog minnow <@187267816099938306> could I get your take on which units I should build next f...

talwer (lightning) can use frurbath, iola, vani, nimbus, heksandra = 22m easy
irzillas (fire) can use lyle, beags, durem, horrus, adolphus.... gotta clear the adds fast, so burn > wild
shainactan (necro): ghulende, zharloth, irma, deverick, adrie
lossenia (poison): lul, get ready to die. sigrid, sifris, eli......... naguk? ichiucatl? vomit
journ (light): dont see your ice/radiance heroes
alton (ice): see journ notes 😛

analog minnow
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Thanks

late agate
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Anyone help for pillars last floor trails and taint just can not clear either im not useing right team or I'm missing a key lego/epic plz @ me any help appreciated

mental thunder
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and here is that team after i'm done with them

sullen bay
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lmao

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She just doesn't seem to be the one to throw in a full damage gear set

mental thunder
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and here is lothair raving over the corpses of another team

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unce unce unce

sullen bay
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he should set them on fire

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How does accuracy help with buffs on a team? Maybe I need to understand that mechanic better to understand which direction she needs to go gear wise

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Like if she had 0 accuracy. Could her battle skill fail to protect the team? I know it would mean her alt likely would fail against enemies, but how about the team buffs?

mental thunder
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here's a an obnoxious phaessa

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91% chance to land her ult debuffs with that artifact

sullen bay
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See now that looks fun

mental thunder
sullen bay
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Ok that's what I thought

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Accuracy description says it affects both, but I've never seen that to be true

mental thunder
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and here is her dead with my team 3/5 surviving a round 1 hvitar nonsense

sullen bay
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Lol

mental thunder
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prob gonna lose those bc i cant kill this gillian with only lothair dps

latent isle
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Actual f2p god

sullen bay
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Bleddyn and Gerthinn vortex team. Who all should be on that? I have Garius, Phaessa, Voresh, and Catherine available, and the 3rd ice blast epic I could level up I suppose but he seems pretty underwhelming

ruby phoenix
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!!!

shy scroll
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It’s important the affinity team bonus?

sharp pendant
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Any consensus as far as wild vs ice blast and frost vs burn?

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Curious who is top ST and AOE now

mental thunder
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<@&1024931953465626644> spam garbage

radiant gorge
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Did they fix Rose yet??

west zenith
delicate vine
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👍

onyx lintel
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Ice blast > wild at ST by a lot

old abyss
onyx lintel
old abyss
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Okkkkkkkkkkkkk

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Illev, Fur, Iola, Nimbus, Heks

old abyss
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👀

onyx lintel
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What other options do you have? What's your roster like

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@old abyss

old abyss
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For poison and lightning are these

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Unfortunately I don’t have Lydia

onyx lintel
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I would personally drop Fur and replace with Nathaniel then build Heks max res/def and have her tank

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Probably 400 res

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Your other option here is to build Sutha max res/def and replace Heks with Nathaniel

midnight plinth
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Hi I'm stuck after beating Utios, can you guys give a good line up to beat that purple monster after Utios?
My current lineup Ghulende, Zharloth, Horrus, MC ice, Sigrid

plush thicket
shy scroll
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Any idea for new team?

sharp pendant
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S2 harpy have any positioning trickery

old abyss
onyx lintel
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his bskill doesn't matter. You want his shield and def up

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shouldn't need to dispel if you're resisting

old abyss
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Ok Nath and Heks I kinda get it. But with Sutha means no heal right D:

plush thicket
# shy scroll Any idea for new team?

Im assuming youre s1:

Try Horrus, MC Fire, Adolphus, Heksandra, and use your rare chest for Sigrid.

You have a couple of core epics, just keep playing and rolling dice.

strange pewter
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s1 here. stuck on gob 3-2. need better chest for everyone but wanted to see if I should change my team (furb,lelantis,dench,fire mc,sigrid) and also which epic artifacts I should get?

fresh magnet
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Need advice for Alton. My ice roster is not the fanciest one.

gloomy cargo
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Can i get help on making chief challenge teams. I need to get to 11m so i can buy utior haha

jaunty acorn
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Need advice for necro/ice resurgent dragon teams, I came up with 2 teams

Team1: Gladros Zadok Premtsa Joyce Zharloth
Team2: Fitz Trolgar Rowena Rava Megan

Thoughts? Too bad I dont have Thia or Ghulende

fading dune
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Just started game few days ago on mobile iPhone. Enjoy and want to switch to tablet but it’s not letting me link my account!! It’s simple instructions settings, link, good to go but making me start new character and over… help or ideas to fix?

ocean schooner
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Hei guysb

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What set do o build vorash ?

ornate steppe
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which can help me in grave of venom 4

mental thunder
# strange pewter

Horseshoe and music box probably are your next two epic artifacts, and grab the bracelet for lothair for goblins (you can leave it at +0 dont need to xp bracelet). You should be using lothair as your melee in goblins not frurb… and get rid of fire MC, slot iola instead for more debuffs.

ornate steppe
mental thunder
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People were here before you

ornate steppe
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ok ok thanks

mental thunder
# jaunty acorn Need advice for necro/ice resurgent dragon teams, I came up with 2 teams Team1:...

Have you already used irma and vinyara in a team? Deverick? I see them in your screenshot but you didnt pick them. I would drop joyce from that first team and being irma, give her incense artifact. Gladros can hole candle for you so zharloth can just heal more with proper artifact. Second team is decent, maybe drop trolgar and bring vinyara though? You can build a third team hocha + trolgar + deverick + ultior + ice main char maybe

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Horrus main tank in middle, frurbath second tank just below him in front, meggan healer, sigrid straight back from horrus back row and fire main character in front of her. Fire main character can use horshoe artifact or disc, sigrid can use crown of unclean. Later replace fire main character with eli

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And then eli can hold crown

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ohh ok thankss

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And sigrid eyeball, but you will be in better gear then and more crits

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i guess i have to go farm goblin first

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cuz i need to lvl those

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If you are still venom 4, just get your heroes to 70. You are wasting your time (and stamina) grinding low level goblins and domains to get heroes to 90. Get better gear so you can farm higher level dungeons

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ok thnk u

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Venom 4 should be easy at 70 already

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Has a section on gear stats

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thankss

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i think im lacking some enabler

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Usha up front on bracelet artifact, sigrid, irina, fire main character… replace fire mc later with rava, replace irina with voresh when you get them

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And iola when you get her

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thankss