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[ebon thistle]

So you prefer single elemental screen shots (6) over combined affinities (3)?

[sharp path]

Combined

[ebon thistle]

Ok, I think that is how I did it then... Also, if any of my troops can be arranged in a way (hopefully the ones already invested/leveled up, but I'll level others if needed) to defeat any of the 3 elemental dungeons on lvl 4. That's what I'm asking.

[sharp path]

Oh duh S2

My bad 😅

So ice is probably the best to break through first

[ebon thistle]

That is a bit what I'm scared to hear, lol. My ice/radiant troops are the weakest and unscrolled. :/

So even if 90+ they probably won't pull me through the fire or lightning dungeons.

[sharp path]

Ah okay

[ebon thistle]

That said, if it is teh path for me to get 90+ I'll take it.

[sharp path]

Having someone with shield dispel has always helped me clear ice and curse earlier than I should have

[ebon thistle]

I'm thinking I need to level up a shield dispeller then. Maybe Ich?

[sharp path]

So depending on what you have scrolls for, Brody was my GOAT for those

He was lvl 79 and surviving T5 of curse and ice in S1

And getting shield dispel of course. Pair him with sufficient TMR (e.g Adrie) and you may not need to scroll him, at least fully

But ideally you would save your scrolls if you don’t have him scrolled already. You def will not use him once you get 5-stars

[ebon thistle]

Yeah, unfortunately I do not have Brody scrolled :/

[sharp path]

I suggest that simply because it appears you’ve been trying to brute force with burn and that hasn’t worked out

[ebon thistle]

I used him some in S1 unscrolled and it kind of worked.

What is TMR (adrie)?

[sharp path]

“Turn meter reduction”, general term but refers to ult meter here

[ebon thistle]

And you are right, brute forcing with the two burn leggies I pulled for S2 is not working for me, haha.

[sharp path]

The lightning lizard (forget her name) has that too

Shield dispel that is

[ebon thistle]

Yes, that is Ichuatli or something like that. I just say Ich, lol.

[sharp path]

Natalie’s and Fru able to keep you alive through the mobs?

[ebon thistle]

I think her shield dispel is on the battle skill.

[sharp path]

Yeah you mentioned her earlier that’s right

Ah sheet

Shook is the only other epic that had it in S1

[ebon thistle]

Ok, so maybe I level her up, go after Ice lvl 4. Then push my radiant team up above 90?

[sharp path]

That was on ult

So I suggest ult just bc ice is generally easiest

[ebon thistle]

Yeah, I got him recently too, but like Brody he is also not scrolled.

[sharp path]

But obv if you could get something that could clear fire, then your burn team should be able to carry the other two

Shook has more value than Brody after

[ebon thistle]

Exactly... I've been trying all sorts of combos on fire 4 and no luck.

[sharp path]

ATK down and ult recharge penalty is yuge

[ebon thistle]

Recharge penalty works against the dugeon bosses?

[sharp path]

Maybe Nathaniel with the right spacing gives dispel and sustain

[sharp path]

Hellz yeah, just not control

[ebon thistle]

Lol, for some reason I thought that they were immune to it.

[sharp path]

Yeah just no stuns, silence etc

[ebon thistle]

So, if I cannot speed up my troops with scrolls, maybe I just slow down the boss. I'll think on that a bit.

[sharp path]

Wait crap his dispel is on battle too

Bah

[ebon thistle]

Yeah, issue I have with Nathaniel is timing his dispels.

It is like every combo or setup I think of has its own little fault.

[sharp path]

Yeah that’s the cheat code. Ult reduction from ults usually (if not always) are 30% reduction over 10 seconds, so buys you 3 seconds (7 seconds of bar progress over 10 seconds)

[ebon thistle]

I may go with your idea and push through Ice dungeon 4 first.

[sharp path]

So that alone with some skills haste sets should get close or all the way there

If you do, I’d recommend shook bc he has two nice debuffs on ult

And usually sustain is kinda the hack for underdogging ice… and fire/necro has little sustain 😅

S1 you’d just double heal and it was just a race against the clock

[ebon thistle]

Right, I feel like in S1 I was able to race through most of the dungeon bosses with enough DPS. Struggling in S2 here.

[sharp path]

But yeah my brody never got above lvl 79, if you have another choice looks elsewhere

[ebon thistle]

Cool, I definitely appreciate the discussion. Thanks for giving me some ideas to try out.

[tame heart]

any suggestion epic artifact for zhorak? i cant find hero introduction for zhorak tho'

[mortal mountain]

think he uses vile ink if i'm not mistaken, full enlightenment build

[zinc sable]

i'm in the tutorial pull 5 purple shards and get voresh... change for heksandra?

[mortal mountain]

use both, voresh can't main heal your team

he's a buff strip / block buff / debuff setup for sigrid with some small heals on the side

[zinc sable]

ooo nice okok

[tame heart]

thanks, will try

[twin crypt]

Alright, 4hrs til free reset is over, pretty much need to be able to farm goblin for a while

What’s the team I should lock in?

Fire / Poison:

Lightning / Radiance:

Or ice necrosis:

I had been running Kamari (tank) MC/ Wellby / Arlow / Martina as AOE dps

[half ridge]

@hollow fiber @keen marsh even rock solid cant carry these aliens

[finite turtle]

league players 👀

[half ridge]

we lost immediately after that

[finite turtle]

22kills. whale

[twin crypt]

Maybe MC/Olgan/Vasska/Tioh/Uloar? or swap Olgan for Zadok?

[sly pebble]

does Catherine's ult work like debuff dispel or it just blocks UPCOMING "new" buffs?

[opaque coral]

@sharp path blocks upcoming, leaves current debuffs active

[sly pebble]

but does it disable the current debuffs effects? (e.g. Sigrid got Healing Prohibition debuff from boss, but Catherine ulted, so any form of healing will apply to Sigrid)

[half ridge]

no

[sly pebble]

sad, thanks

[snow edge]

Worth building the legendary and 2x epics?

[mental thunder]

the concensus is that thunderbolt is lackluster

not as good aoe as burn, not as good single target as ice blast

[snow edge]

Ah ok! I lack burn legendarys, have a decent ice blast team! So i think its maybe my best option still!

[mental thunder]

some have reported decent enough scores on vortex but just comparing kits the TB utility is limited to like 2-3 targets i think not full screen; so in low target battles might be fine - i just dont think i'd be scrolling them

[odd cipher]

can someobe help me with the chaos boss iam lvl 2

[snow edge]

Thanks! 🙂 I will wait with scrolls, but lvl those 3 up to lvl 92-93 and see how they perform!

[rapid anvil]

Hi, it's better a team with fire element in My traveler or Ice ?

[valid rampart]

I’m trying to complete Smash the Phantom. What is the recommended lvl of party I should be using?

[delicate oak]

Well I got Felicity in a horn summon and drew Isolde. Should I build a Wild team and is Isolde worth leveling?

[mental thunder]

Ice traveler, usha, meggan, questa, loris… fire traveler, horrua, heksandra, sigrid, dench/dubok/letalis

[odd cipher]

@mental thunder do you can help me?

[mental thunder]

Isolde, adolphus, felicity, errich, nedda

Make felicity accuracy and give her crown of unclean/witch remains and make sure she has 100% crit… good vortex team

[pine escarp]

[delicate oak]

Thanks again!

[mental thunder]

@odd cipher idk how i can help you - you are struggling with the earliest content in the game that takes really no strategy other than “use the heroes you have and click auto”… maybe position them differently?

[odd cipher]

its not the strategie how i play , the boss is the problem

[mental thunder]

with about 30 servers having completed the first 90 day season i assure you it isnt the boss that's the issue

[atomic briar]

@mental thunder what would you recommend for summon team for thelendor OE?

Note that my first time is ghul/zhar/rip/quetra/gladris

[mental thunder]

with your lineup i wouldnt recommend summons for him. questa, ghulende, irma, ultior, thia.... adrie, zhar, ripelkas, meggan, gladros

[atomic briar]

So this would be for a second team. First team im aleeaxy using zhar/ghulende/ripekas/questra/gladros

Or would you split the teams differently?

[azure sluice]

The problem with Isolde is that while shield, damage reduction and attack penalty is great, she's melee so the shield move with her. BUT on single enemy that only 1 tile away (Vortex) she's great. Adolphus is better generally, but Adolphus + Isolde is Mrow wet dream

[mental thunder]

i'd split them the way i listed; you want 2 ult reduction heroes each to be able to remove his ult charge while he has rally up so that he ends up using his ult without rally. saves you quite a bit oof damage taken

so litereally can run those two teams as listed and click auto with timers set up

[atomic briar]

Ojjj ty

[keen marsh]

stop ks'ing nerd

[delicate oak]

I have them all 5* now and it dawned on me I don't have any healers in the team. I'm interested to see how this plays out.

[mental thunder]

read adolphus skills

[fading ore]

Can anyone help me build multiple teams for season 2? For main story, I'm using Karf, Quaesitia, Durem, Sigrid, and Garius. For goblin I'm using Karf, Durem, Perkunte, Hirvolm, and Garius. I didn't have decent team for vortex, sadly. Thanks in advance

[runic roost]

Can someone explain to me how to get Emily back? I entered the game after registering on Discord. I found it starting from scratch and Emily is not there. What should I do?

[mental thunder]

who is emily?

[runic roost]

My email

I mean the email I have in the game

[mental thunder]

no idea, you login to your account first time and after that you do not logout or anything you just open the game and it automatically logs in

[whole mountain]

👍

[runic roost]

I tried to log in, but it did not work with the code I had in the game

[mental thunder]

maybe walk us through step by step what you did

because i'm failing to understand

what code in game?

[runic roost]

There is player data inside the game, and it contains a code specific to the player, and I keep it, but I do not know how to enter it. I tried repeatedly to log in with a Google email, but it did not work. It starts again, so what should I do?

[mental thunder]

i honestly dont know. i never logged out at all once i was in the game, on phone or PC

[runic roost]

I didn't log out, but when I logged in to Discord, I almost accidentally put in a command, which ruined my email

I am very sad

I don't know what to do

Discord wasted my effort in the game

[maiden vault]

[mental thunder]

this is what i dont understand, what command did you put in? idk how discord's interaction with your email you use for your DH account would do anything to your game login capability, they arent integrated

[runic roost]

God destined and did what He wanted. Praise be to God. In any case, I surrender

Thank you very much for your effort

[mental thunder]

sorry i wasnt more helpful!

[runic roost]

No, on the contrary, I did it perfectly. This is my destiny

Thank you

[thick loom]

@mental thunder hope you had a good coffee and got the kids in the bus 🙂. I'd buy you a coffee if I could for your help!

If you could take a look at this it would be awesome.

[mental thunder]

ok there are your pics

[lunar spear]

question guys....is worth to scroll up Zhorak

[mental thunder]

so one thing to consider is mid season in a few weeks when you have to do the chief challenge bosses

[thick loom]

Yup. Finally able to get legendary materials from green grave.

[mental thunder]

if you have other IB heroes sure

[thick loom]

Yes! Chief challenges, and then getting legendary runes etc is my focus now.

We just got chief challenges on my server.

[lunar spear]

I have the two epics

[mental thunder]

gerthin and bleddyn are the better of the 3 epics

[mental thunder]

chief challenges i dont really have teams ready for myself, i tried 3 of them when they first appeared a few days ago just to get a baseline score without saving and i was disappointed with my teams

so i'll do the actual challenges on the last day after i prep a little more

[thick loom]

I'm think I'm okay with fire one.

[mental thunder]

early season i built a wild team team with poison debuffers/support/tank; radiant rally team with tathlyn and thelendor bc i dont have alton or lorentheel.... and i built poison roster around sigrid and lothair for progression and vortex. poison is a tough boss, that's lossenia and she is punishing to melee.

[thick loom]

Lightning also in decent shape and then I was thinking ice because I can partially reuse for Vortex team and then light

[mental thunder]

but talwer boss is punishing to melee range heroes, which are most of the dauntless

except thurnus, nimbus, tharivol and ivellios

[thick loom]

Melee range?

[mental thunder]

ya

[thick loom]

Confused... J thought melee and ranged were like opposite, lol?

[oblique tide]

If you got 2 out of these 4, I think you can fill it with either Haug or Yagnatz

For 22M, not for the best score of course

[mental thunder]

they are opposites lol.... melee range bad for talwer and lossenia bosses

which makes dauntless and melee poison very difficult teams to use on these bosses

[oblique tide]

They kinda pushed the new damage types for each boss; thunderbolt is more ranged, burn also does AoE damage on the summons, and ice blast is just more single target DPS and all units get hit by Alton regardless

[mental thunder]

right, so it is tough if you are like me and didnt pull any of the new stuff when season started lol

[thick loom]

Gotcha! Well my lightning team is thunderbolt with 1 dauntless because I have Surtha scrolled

Same @mental thunder although I did get Karf who is excellent

[mental thunder]

curse is easy enopugh with the right heroes and timing. i use

voresh dispels, ichiu dispels and strips shield, attack down uptime is present most of the time and garius main heals everyone

venom i use a weird team with 0 affinity lol... but it works nicely. two tanks start on left front orb and rest of team is spread out. i time the ults for adolphus and iola for right before boss does full screen aoe and then garius heals right after; i time frurb ult for right before the single target damage to him

[thick loom]

Ah... I wish I had Garius. Seems to be the "easy button". Same with Adolphus.

Here is what I am using on L7 of curse

[ebon thistle]

I also lack Garius and Adolphus... Seems it makes teams a little harder to figure out.

[violet shore]

iam on s1 final boss, have a team that can rip thru grasping hand fast enought to save , but debuff and hitting highest HP hero is killing me off, attack penetalty 2 solution?

[ebon thistle]

Attack Penalty II is a life saver in many cases. Not sure about your particular situation though.

[mental thunder]

depends on the heroes you have but i wouldnt worry too much about affinity; pick your best fit debuffer skill wise and go with it

[twin crypt]

Okay, free reset is over for me, what should my 1 team be until I farm enough goblin for another?

Fire/Poison:

Lightning/radiance:

Ice/necro:

[violet shore]

so if i have 100% chance at landing a skill, does acc. still come into play

[mental thunder]

yes

if you make your accuracy check you have 100% chance of landing the skill wiht 3% chance to fail due to rng

[violet shore]

ok ty

[mental thunder]

for goblins.... eli, sigrid,usha (make her tanky, use bracelet artifact), fire main character, wellby maybe? it is aoe but lacks debuffs... but what you gonna do, hopefully usha lands enough frost to enable sigrid

[violet shore]

TYTY for ur help i beat boss

[twin crypt]

yeah haha there's not exactly any perfect choice here

[zinc nest]

Nathaniel, Sifris or Heks for Talwer? (As healer/support)

[mental thunder]

sifris actually bc she will never get hit

so can afford her to take hits from her own skills

[zinc nest]

Frubarth Sigris Ivellios Thalivor Irina/nessa a decent setup for the his week?

Thinking of nessa as def down bot but her reviews are disgusting low

[onyx lintel]

You don't need double atk down

Furb is enough

[zinc nest]

So maybe nessa instead of irins

Ty

[onyx lintel]

No, neither....

Furbath Nathaniel Tharivol Ivellios and one more dauntless

[zinc nest]

The other dauntless are melee tho.
Kinda troublesome with the mushrooms
No nimbus

[mental thunder]

i'm dumb and didnt realize thurnus was melee

now i 90+ a crap unit lol

[zinc nest]

Hes just underwhelming

[mental thunder]

i was hoping for that 2 dwarf double punch from a distance on talwer

[real atlas]

Help I’m stuck at the cobweb .. I understand supposed to outrun the spider to the bridge but never make it and I’m just getting killed every time. Not sore who to use what elements

[mental thunder]

are you using wine potion to speed your run speed?

[real atlas]

No

I have it though… I’ll try it

How about lineup .. any suggestions?

[brisk charm]

With the Move Speed Up you won’t have to fight until you also have Erganger as an ally for the fight and iirc he can basically solo it

[weary tusk]

Got a couple more epic heroes…any advice welcome what to start building into

[mental thunder]

Horrus but wouldnt touch the others unless you had a need

[weary tusk]

So switch Forbrit for Horrus once levelled?

Generally have the heroes I met they’re quite alright. Heks and Forbrit are nice or the assassin

[mental thunder]

More like reset forbrit and never touch him again bc he is trash

He isnt actually a tank he is an attacker with a bad kit

[atomic briar]

2 poison teams for ripekas? Currently have one team doing 22n twitch/corrin/fru/oggok/lothair but wondering if i can distribute better to do 2x 22m

[mortal mountain]

There's some budget teams out there with 22m teams once you have the alliance buffs. Something like dench / eli / frur / heksandra / +1 can do 22m with good gear, so just sub in better champs where applicable.

One team can be ergander tank w/ oggok probably and one team frur tank w/ heksandra then just mix and match your poison dps

corrin + lothair on one and vicana + ??? on another

my 30m poison team in s1 was isolde / heksandra / eli / sigrid / durango

[atomic briar]

Lh yaa durango would begood with vic if i had him!

[mortal mountain]

I mean you have a ton of top tier poison champs you don't need him

[atomic briar]

That makes sebse tho ty

[mortal mountain]

you can literally do 22m with rares + frontline

[old abyss]

Damn it I still can’t cross 7m for Talwer 🥲

Grind more

[mortal mountain]

what team you using?

[chrome shale]

@mortal mountain

Last picture can probably be ignored fr

[mortal mountain]

can probably get away with tank / enna / meggan / mc frost / +1 damage

[chrome shale]

Who for tank?

[mortal mountain]

just time your cleanse for every rotation when burns go up first time, and slowly through fight enna falls behind because boss is 18s rotation and she's 20/23

can use rephe or loris i thin kthey have atk penalty or just try frurbath. He should be able to survive even when weak affinity.

[chrome shale]

Oof what would I set her to?

[mortal mountain]

she'll be 20 or 23 so nothing you can do

[chrome shale]

Yeah I was worried about fire/poison but worth a shot

[mortal mountain]

you'll have to manual these fights until you're stronger

if you cleanse when boss puts up his first burn then she falls behind 2s and then you cleanse next rotation and she falls behind, etc. eventually you'll be cleansing BOTH burns, but if you don't end fight shortly after you're kinda screwed unless you have atk penalty + shelds or def up to help survive

[chrome shale]

I saw using heks is still good but you think Meggan instead?

[mortal mountain]

Also spread your champs out at least 1 square between each of them because hp burn does aoe damage

heks can be fine if she's surviving yeah. You'll level meggan eventually so not bad to take her up

[chrome shale]

So manually attack with Enna after boss attacks each time you're saying?

[mortal mountain]

Usually this positioning so tank walks up and heksandra's diamond heal hits everybody on team

read bosses battleskill and ultimate. He uses 2 battleskills and then ultimate

[chrome shale]

Ooooo

[mortal mountain]

you need to cleanse the hp burns to lessen damage, but if you wait until both battleskills have been used, you won't have cooldown up in time to cleanse for next rotation, but if you cleanse after first battleskill, even if enna slowly falls behind rotation, it should lessen damage enough to survive long enough to clear dungeon

eventually you'll have skill haste gear so you can cleanse every 18s after both bskills but not for a while

[chrome shale]

Uh so you're saying manual for enna does cleanse hp burns mean do right after attack?

Or before

[mortal mountain]

you'll have to manual fights especially ones that require specific timing when you don't have enough skill haste

there's 3 waves of fight, even if you set skill timers there are no guarantees your cooldowns will be up properly in time for wave 3

so you can't auto it because it requires precise timing for certain skills to survive

[chrome shale]

Right so I'm confused. Do I use ennas skill before or after enemy attacks?

[brisk charm]

Yeah, the other option that doesn’t require skill haste runes is once you get Fitz is having Fitz and Enna alternate casting each round after the second ability that does burn, but doesn’t look like you have him yet

[mortal mountain]

read the skills and you should have a better idea

also can test the fight out

[chrome shale]

So it could either be before or after you're not sure?

[mortal mountain]

see what's working and what's not, when you die try and figure out why by reading the boss' skills

no, I know when you need to cleanse, but it's clear when you read the boss' skills

if you can't read boss skills and get the information yourself then come back and ask

[chrome shale]

Oh ah ok lemme go see for fd3

[brisk charm]

Enna’s skill cleanses all allies of debuffs, so it will be after the burn is inflicted from the boss’ battle skill. The actual timing of the Burn is like ~2.5s after the skill seems like it should activate, you’ll see the burn status on your characters and then cleanse as soon after as you can

[mortal mountain]

right, and her passive as well

[brisk charm]

On those fights I’ll set the timings with the separate wave settings, and usually turn auto off on the cleansers for a bit at round 2 and turn back on in round 3. So some manual clicks, but mostly let auto and skill timing work

[mortal mountain]

I guess s1 flame domain passive is different than s2 one

but basically flame domain boss, does bskill (stack hp burn), bskill (more hp burn), detonate ultimate (triggers the damage from every stack of hp burn at once), so less stacks (cleanse) = less damage

you can mitigate damage in a few different ways, one is shields, one is atk penalty, one is cleansing the hp burns, one is spreading out so the aoe portion of hp burn damage doesn't hit your whole team together etc.

also def up is another way

[chrome shale]

So you say wait 2.5 seconds after boss attack to cleanse or use right when I see the red burn thing on characters?

[mortal mountain]

use cleanse after the debuff lands

[chrome shale]

How will I know😅

[mortal mountain]

all cleanse does is removes debuffs, so doesn't do anything if you use it before the debuff lands

[brisk charm]

I actually didn’t realize the S2 Flame was slightly different, I’ve mostly ignored it for the other two currently

[chrome shale]

Ooo

[mortal mountain]

red icon on your character is a debuff

but flame boss also can apply them with basic attack, so you just wait until after it bskills and hp burns land then cleanse

have to pay attention and try to learn what's going on in the fight to come up with valid strategies

[brisk charm]

Yeah, the ability activates at 6s, but the actual burn I think winds up showing on your character 2.5s after that, it’s kinda annoying. Once you see the burn icon you know it’s time to use the skill

[chrome shale]

That makes sense!!!

[mortal mountain]

if something confuses you re-read boss skills and slow down the fight to 1x speed and watch his ulti bar filling and read the skill order

[chrome shale]

Yeah looking out for red symbol sounds simple compared to a lot of stuff I'm told to do in this game lol

[brisk charm]

At least in S1 it was like that, spent a fair bit of time getting my full auto to work consistently with the timings there

[chrome shale]

Oh true I should slow down

Can I leave em all auto except Enna and just use hers with red symbol? Bc sounds not bad!!

[chrome shale]

Ahh man I loved riding on auto that was the life

[mortal mountain]

good luck, i'm off

[brisk charm]

You’ll probably want Meggan and Ice MC to Ult just before the Boss’ Ult hit to reduce the damage there further if you have some burn still. Damage and Tank could probably be on Auto though.

You could try Meggan and Ice MC on auto and manually cleanse with Enna, see if that works, then manual if they don’t

[chrome shale]

Ahh thanks for all your help!!

[brisk charm]

A lot of the timing is definitely play around, see what parts seem to be working, and retry as needed changing it a bit

[chrome shale]

Oh mercy is there any way to time this in auto I'm afraid of remembering all this to do manual😅

I get that though

So like if boss is 6 seconds set them to 5? My confusion is though they don't get their ults in 5 seconds

It's cool learning all this I appreciate you

[brisk charm]

Depends on your cooldowns really, I think they all might be 20s without Skill Haste. You could try Enna First Cast: 10s Cooldown: Default, Meggan 9s: Cooldown:Default, Ice MC: 8.5s Cooldown:Default with Separate Skill Timings. You would get out of sync eventually if they have >18s cooldown, but that would be a first attempt

[brisk charm]

Basically that should set Enna to cleanse after the 1st Burn is applied, and then recast as soon as possible, Meggan at 10s so she overlaps with as much burn time as possible while still getting Def Up during the Ult (Ice MC probably should be the same, went back and edited one and not the other)

[chrome shale]

Omg thank you that's so helpful

[brisk charm]

The Ult gauges continue their levels from the previous round of enemies, so you will likely need to turn off auto for those during part of that round so you start with a good amount of Ult energy at the start of the boss wave

[chrome shale]

Oh nice so the longer you wait the stronger the skill

Is my guess of what ult energy means

[brisk charm]

They all need roughly a bit more than half their Ult gauge at the end of the 2nd round in order to cast on time

It’s the timer on the Ultimate effectively, you can’t cast until it’s full, but once it’s maxed out it can be cast whenever (at the same strength, doesn’t change there)

[chrome shale]

Idk what that means.. half ult gage meaning wait half the recharge time before using maybe?

[brisk charm]

The yellow bar on the bottom of each character portrait should be a bit more than half full

[chrome shale]

Right right

[brisk charm]

That’s your timer for when you can next use the Ult Skill. If you need Enna to cast at 8.5s and her cooldown is 20s, the bar needs to be 13.5/20 full (so 67.5% full, but can’t tell exactly)

[old abyss]

Fur, Nath, Illev, Nimbus, Iola.

Got advice saying my gear and artifact needs to improve still 🥲 so hard to grind

[chrome shale]

Yeah I knew that for some reason I thought u meant after bar was maxed

[chrome shale]

Alright so I will say ivyleaguegaming said a good fire domain 3 team is:
Mc ice
Enna
Heks
Horrus
Rephe
Just curious what are your thoughts? @brisk charm

[brisk charm]

Are you Season 1 or Season 2? Seemed like Season 1, and you won’t want to use Fire/Poison if that is the cast because the boss deals extra damage and takes less damage from Fire/Poison units. The affinities change each season, so S2 you can use Fire without issue

[chrome shale]

Ohhhh

Uh I have no clue I started like a week ago

So season 2?

[brisk charm]

Yeah, the screenshots earlier have it dealing more damage to Fire/Poison, so you won’t want to use anyone from Fire Poison (at least on the Domain 3+)

[chrome shale]

Right I agree seemed wild

But you said I could try frur for tank?

He dies easily kinda

[brisk charm]

Well, let me check, but think you were pretty limited on tanks, and his self-heal might be enough, probably not for higher levels, but maybe for 3.

[chrome shale]

True I am fr

Well horrus?

But fire ah

[brisk charm]

If you need to switch out tanks, maybe Kumari/During/Loris, gotta check their abilities, never actually used any of them.

Yeah, Horrus and Frur are both fantastic tanks pretty much everywhere except Flame Domain in S2 lol

If you had him Fitz is a cleansing Tank, but you may just need to go off-element here. Let me check those abilities

I’d probably go Loris just for the affinity more than anything else, but the Atk Penalty might be useful if you have some accuracy to make it stick

[chrome shale]

Like idk what my move even should be.. build a team to get equipment to continue main task or build a team to farm flame domain to get team to lvl 100 I guess the flame route right?

[brisk charm]

Yup, if you are past the free reset time, then you’ll probably want your second team to be a team that can farm mats for your primary team

[chrome shale]

My service is bugging

Ah so second team is the team you told me for flame right?

Mc ice, enna, meggan, frur (maybe) and Loris or whoever else you said I'll have to scroll up

[brisk charm]

Yeah, Traveler is useful at the start of S1 since they can change elements and keep their XP, so one less character to level (and can change element so you don’t necessarily need one specific type of crystal)

[mortal mountain]

Ivellios needs full enlightenment / atk build with vile ink jar I think, drop nath for sifris or heksandra to heal because only frurbath should ever be getting hit if positioned properly and nathaniel can't heal frurbath unless he's close which means he's getting hit as well.

[brisk charm]

Enna is the most important to scroll for Flame Domain to get her cooldown as close to 18s as possible. Traveler has their own scrolls, so just scroll them whenever you get those.

Frur is worth Epic Scrolls simply because he’s one of the best tanks. Meggan is generally useful, and I wouldn’t feel bad scrolling her (think she was one of my first 4 Rare scrolled units, Sigrid/Heks/Enna/Meggan)

Loris I’d probably wait to scroll until later tbh. He seems like a solid tank, but probably others that you’ll want to scroll sooner

[chrome shale]

It's going to be a long journey for me I was able to get Enna to 70 now anyone else I wanna upgrade can only get to 30 so farming goblin is the move rn lol

I only had one scroll rn🤣 I gave to enna

[brisk charm]

Yeah, at the end of the season you will likely wind up with plenty of Rare Scrolls, but I remember at the beginning it took a fair bit of saving. Getting the 1-2 per week from the Emerald Dragon currency

[chrome shale]

Ahh yep😅

[brisk charm]

You might be able purchase it in the store for Wyrm, I think it’s like 400 Wyrm for 10 Rare Scrolls (not sure if it starts later in the season though)

And yup, that’s basically how you build that second team (doing that in S2 right now, had a team set for Vortex/Goblin/most things, during the free reset period abuse that as much as possible to do some farming for my main team) and now running a ton of Goblin to actually level my 2nd team for real this time

[old abyss]

Oh so remove all CR and CD for Illev? :/ I tried but seems like the dmg wasn’t as good a si thought.

I do have Heks just not level up. Need to grind a lot more for that urghhhh

[fresh magnet]

Guys would love to get some help to push s7-9 in Grave of Rot. Here's my roster, besides necrosis. My necrosis roster is really bad, only Zhar'loth, Adrie and Meggan are worth to mention.

[onyx lintel]

Furbath Sigrid Ihucaitl Iola Enna

[old abyss]

@onyx lintel any further suggestion? :3

Or should I skip and go to Poison team. But Fur is used for Talwer as well 🥲

Alton: Shinnah, Bled, Voresh, Garius, Gillian

Talwer: Fur, Illev, Heks, Nimbus, Iola

For now 🥲 not hitting 11m yet but at least it’s stable.

[dull island]

havent touched grave of rot atm, need help with a team please, tried fitz and didnt go well, must i level up vicuc? (S1) TIA!

[polar aurora]

Verify if Vicuc cleanses all debuffs. If so, then he is the go to

Have you tried Acilia ?

Acilia Catherine Iola Tharivol Gilian/Quarrion

[midnight plinth]

I got this just now
And i have epic box
Should I take Zharloth or Voresh?

[polar aurora]

Garius

[midnight plinth]

This is my current line

[polar aurora]

always take garius

also u dont need zharloth or voresh now that u have ghulende

[midnight plinth]

Ohh
I think I should make Necro/Ice lineup
Well if I take Garius then my line will be Ghulende, Heksandra, Sigrid, Garius, and MC?

[ocean maple]

Are manna and hirvolm better thunderbolt enablers than nissa?

[polar aurora]

you can go Ghul'ende, Ice MC, Elvis, Usha, and whatever other ice/necro u have

Gulal

[iron widget]

Hello - just started season 2 and have not leveled any heroes, and got Shai'nachtan. Thinks he looks great but cannot find any information on him on youtube, is he worth it build a team around?

[polar aurora]

and a second team with Garius, Nimbus, Shagrol, Vani, Irina

[dark pike]

Hello how are you guys

[polar aurora]

you need other thunderbolt heroes. from what I've seen I like him

[iron widget]

Yea I have Epics: Lydia, Ihuicatl Rares: Vani, Irina, Immeral,Dora, Fizzle, Sallyanne, and our main char. prob just trying something out with those

[polar aurora]

Yes but they are not Thunderbolt

they are from the lightning affinity but not Thunderbolt mechanic

[iron widget]

oh - there you go - I am a total noob to DH 🙂

[polar aurora]

Thunderbolt deal damage with other thunderbolt heroes

dauntless with other dauntless

wild with other wild, summoner with other summoner, etc.

[iron widget]

Thanks 🙂 I don't have any Thunderbolts besides him yet, but just started Season 2, hope they will com

[polar aurora]

thunderbolt is new from season 2 so you likely don't have another one if you didn't pull a new epic/rare/legendary from season 2

read his spells and maybe he does fine by himself

but usually they complement each other

[iron widget]

Thanks for the help 🙂

[polar aurora]

np

[dull island]

yeah i tried acilia, but she couldnt cleanse in time, do u think i need a specific timing for it? vivuc cleanses 2 debuffs only i tried oggok and gillian, but couldnt cleanse enough for hek to heal ><

[polar aurora]

I thought Acilia granted immunity and not a cleanse

[dull island]

she cleanses + immunity

[polar aurora]

Did you give her skill haste ?

[dull island]

mayb i could build catherine and stagger immunity, does that work?

[polar aurora]

Did you try timing her ulti to before the boss applies debuff ?

it does work yes

[dull island]

i think she was on 2 skillhaste 2 enlightenment

my dps was sig, but had to change to acc chest bc rot kept healing

should i be jus ignoring the heals and dps it down thru the heals?

[polar aurora]

yes you should

and if heal is an issue you have nessa for healing prohibition / iola for attack penalty / catherine/Gilian for defense up

the boss cant outheal tharivol's dps

[dull island]

alright will try it out, thanks!!

[queen dust]

I'm relatively new, any help with heroes i should invest in so i dont waste my resources?

Thanks in advance

[polar aurora]

bruh

click on this button

[queen dust]

Ah sorry

[polar aurora]

Iola Garius Thia top tier

Letalis and Horrus for fire poison team

and Meggan for general content

with Elecebre Voresh. tank = Garius or Edgar (unless u get something better than Edgar for Ice/necrosis)

[mortal mountain]

Garius worth using even with just 3-affinity as tank in most content.

Also you have acilia. Garius / Acilia / Huberg / Iola / Irina for a general team will carry you through most content. Throw in a voresh for curse and ancient battlefield.

If you get a shaltar you can build Acilia / Garett / Shaltar / Iola / +1 team either garius or another dauntless like vani or nimbus as your vortex team.

Garius / Huberg / Iola / Acilia / Elecebre should be decent as main arena team.

For goblins you'll run frontline can be anybody basically but preferably someone like usha who can put up debuffs for sigrid. Garius can do it with ulti turned off if usha can't survive.

DPS is voresh / iola / huberg / sigrid and have voresh and iola rotate putting up debuffs for sigrid nuke

[queen dust]

Thanks so much guys

[wide lark]

guys i need some help to fix the best 3 team comps i guess to paly the PILLAR OF TRIAL

[smoky hinge]

Please help! S2 lvl70 max, I can’t finish Curse 5. What am I doing wrong?

I run out of time. Tried replacing Gillian with Frurbath but then shield isn’t placed on him and result is the same

[mental thunder]

you have a mess of a lineup here.

you need 2 dispels (voresh is one), you need attack down (in the rad/ice team you have none) and you need to time your shields so they go up before the boss ult so he doesnt deal as much damage to you.

you need to dispel both his buffs before he ults also. voresh + ichiucatl can do this for you pretty easily, and that's what i use. plus ichiu will remove his shield

then you just need healing, attack down and dps

garius, voresh, ichiucatl, ice traveler..... and sigrid

you may want to drop ice traveler if he isnt doing enough damage for you, as ichiu gives shields that should suffice if you are stripping both buffs and debuffing anyway

in which case you can go with someone else for damage that gives you some kind oif 3/5 affinity for bonus

also your positioning isnt too good; curse hits you all over the screen - you should cluster up close on this boss so your heals and buffs from ichiu will apply to entire team

time ichiu ult before boss ult also for defense up II

[proud quail]

hey guys, soliciting opinions on DPS for vortex for s2. My core is going to be Garius, Gillian, and Clovis, but the last two spots are up for grabs

my current pairs I'm considering are: Alton + Huberg, Beldelle + Nord, Hvitar + Rava

I used Alton + Huberg last season so I know it works well, but I pulled Beldelle and Hvitar at s2 start and am curious how well they work

I did some minor testing with Beldelle and Nord on the target dummy and she often gets like, 5 or 6 repeats on her battle skill, without any gear on either champ. So I think scaling Nord's atkspd or cdr will make her even sillier

I'm just not sure if that will edge out Huberg + Alton, and scrolls are hard to come by so I want to make sure I'm spending them wisely

and I pulled a LOT of good champs I want to scroll

[smoky hinge]

Voresh can remove to buffs not reliably, but can block them reliably just need to skip every 5th rotation

[mental thunder]

clovis and garius doesnt make sense at all....

[smoky hinge]

It didn’t show health bar but I was at less than 100k

[mental thunder]

i know you want attack down but you could just go without it if you are going to sacrifice a whole slot for a second tank and that's all they do

[mental thunder]

i use voresh and ichiucatl in my curse9 runs in s2 and he gets full stripped both buffs and shield, so yeah

[smoky hinge]

Thank you for advice. Will need to rethink my affinity though

Which is not easy feat

[mental thunder]

dont get hung up on affinity on these gimp dungeons dude

3/5 is more than enough. you want to see mine for curse? lol

3/5 dark/fire. deverick is a better dispeller than ichiu so i ditched her

and adolphus for shields instead

only 1 wild dps is enough

sorry i lied

i was using my AB team lol

[smoky hinge]

Another issue is that at the moment I don’t have 100+ accuracy for 2 heroes, I have 120 + 90

[mental thunder]

this is my curse team, but i think my AB team was doing better which is why i had it there

[smoky hinge]

But that’s just the issue of this day (5th of s2)

[mental thunder]

sigrid was fine for damage but it was a real slow fight and without good gear i was timing out at first

wild team did better and more consistent on 9

[smoky hinge]

Wild from screenshot? Felicity and Adolphus?

[mental thunder]

felicity is only one i use

she doesnt really need other wilds

[proud quail]

feels kinda weird not having atk down for vortex but I'll consider it

[mental thunder]

running 2 tanks is worse

[proud quail]

I think the issue will be, do I have a decent enough 3rd dps to combo with those pairs?

[mental thunder]

3 iceblast, garius, gillian would be fine; 2 rally dps, enabler, gillian, garius be fine.

[proud quail]

don't have 3 ice blast so I was leaning towards the latter

[latent isle]

Still no tolna...how about caspar, errich, felicity for wild?

[proud quail]

I might try to finagle the alton + wellby combo

[proud quail]

my other rally dps are just Hegio, Wellby, and Gitouna

Hegio and Wellby are scrolled but Gitouna is not

[mental thunder]

hegio wouldnt be horrible there

[latent isle]

@mental thunder show me your final score at the end of s1 brother

[mental thunder]

dude ardeth challenge is no joke nonsense

[mental thunder]

how does that help you lol

[proud quail]

I was wrong, hegio isn't scrolled. In addition, it seems Wellby if he's paired with Alton will edge out Hegio so I think I'll try that first

I'm ok with investing in Wellby bc I used him as main DPS in one of my 20M+ dragon comps last season, so he's pretty ok in my book

and that wasn't even using him to his fullest potential with Alton, so

[limpid latch]

Need suggestions for vortex and arena

Got flora as well if i dont have good combos here

[mental thunder]

youre kidding right

you need suggestions on how to use your dauntless? 🤣

[limpid latch]

Yes i never used her lol

[mental thunder]

https://tenor.com/view/big-lebowski-stirring-staring-wtf-wut-gif-25440654

[limpid latch]

My friend stopped playing and gave me this account now im clueless

[mental thunder]

this is why we cant have nice things

[haughty zenith]

Who’s the best epic to choose from the $1 pack

[mental thunder]

frurb, nastjenka, schaltar, sutha, nathaniel. sutha on accuracy setup and uses witch remains artifact. that is your vortex team.

[limpid latch]

Oh well 😅

[mental thunder]

i've explained this a lot so i'll do it again and try not to freak out repeating myself lol... #1180150041730617344go read my guide;
garius, frurbath, adolphus, voresh are basically the best utility epics in the game.... you save the $1 chest for a few weeks until you summon a couple/few of them or have a desperate need for one of them... you dont just pick an epic with that selector

[mental thunder]

arena defense and offense early on can be... ergander, questa, caraman, voresh, sigrid. dont need to xp ergander, questa or caraman at all just scroll them bc they scale up level in pvp and that's all most people use them for especially early on

[limpid latch]

Ok tnx for help!

[mental thunder]

@limpid latch could also use shagrol and nastjenka in arena as jumpers instead of caraman and questa since lightning + poison is affinity; voresh would spoil 5/5 but you'd have a solid 3/5

questa/caraman is huge though and will be part of team arena for sure

with horrus tank and a healer and ranged dps like zharloth

[limpid latch]

Mind if i post ss of ice team as well?

[mental thunder]

i was assuming you had voresh bc you didnt post it and this is clearly a whale account so sure

[limpid latch]

Yeh his second account was apparently even more stacked 🥲

[mental thunder]

rally enablers no rally dps; only 1 IB lego? clearly trash account

[prime wolf]

If I post my champions can someone help me make some teams for the chaos tower thing? (The challenges that you can only use the elements that go together)

[mental thunder]

pillar?

[prime wolf]

Probably. There's 60 floors for each two elements and it's in the underworld

[mental thunder]

yes pilar

[languid sparrow]

У

[mental thunder]

z

https://tenor.com/view/marvel-hawkeye-captain-america-rogers-steve-rogers-gif-24051681

[drowsy geyser]

Мне не дают призы за привязку😩

[mental thunder]

https://tenor.com/view/dont-speak-russian-gif-18415516

[mental thunder]

i mean.... they do. you probably didn't do it right? #🔒┆verify-here

[prime wolf]

Is that a yes or a no on someone helping me?

[mental thunder]

lol of course i thought that was implied, just drop your roster

[mental thunder]

garius, irina in a stun set, philto, iola in stun set. can swap out philto for catherine to prevent debuffs if necessary

horrus/ergander, errich, sigrid, caspar, sifris.... or drop the wilds and bring dane for more aoe debuffs, heksandra to keep tank alive more

debuffers obviously on stun sets

eurion, torrin, ghulende, voresh, premtsa

[prime wolf]

Who would be the 5th for the lightning radiance team? You mentioned 4 with swapping one out for Catherine. Would Catherine be the 5th?

[mental thunder]

again, stun sets

oh sorry then just slot catherine with them anyway

woops

ofc on the boss floors you'll need a lot bigger damage for light pillar

[prime wolf]

Ok cool thank you. I have been struggling with the pillars. I'm stuck on stage 30 of light pillar

I'm a little confused. For the lightning radiance team it looks like the only damage is philito. That will get past the bosses? Does the silences and stuns make them unable to heal his minions?

[mental thunder]

that's why i said for the light bosses you'll need some more damage; either build both irina and iola 100% crit with some attack and damage to them and not just accuracy.... or magic up a lorentheel/alton + huberg to go with your philto 🙂

i got to 60 in season 1 with only thelendor and nimbus as dps so you'll get there with good gear with philto

[prime wolf]

Apperently I have crappy roles lol... I have yet to get someone to 100% crit rate

[mental thunder]

doesnt sound like you are in legendary gear and runes

[latent isle]

Some pointer on how much i score should get

[prime wolf]

I am in legendary gear and runes. But not far enough into them to get straight pieces of legendary gear. I can only get fragments to craft them

[latent isle]

Im at 80k atm, day 1

[mental thunder]

youre a whale, i'm not; i have nothing really to offer looking at my final rank 44 on my server, which is going to have a lot different point distribution than your server; it really wont help you at all

unless you want to know what i scored as a low spender so you can beat that or feel bad about yourself 🤣

[mental thunder]

so we should be making sure you have setups to clear the level 9 dungeons not pillar 😉

[latent isle]

Maybe to feel bad about myself, im trying to get atleast top 50

[prime wolf]

Yeah probably would help more.

[latent isle]

How many point did u get at the end for rank 44?

[mental thunder]

i dont know how to even check that from preivous season

[mental thunder]

well for venom pretty easy choices. garius, philto, iola, irina, quarion should work fine; can always throw meggan in there instead of quarion since meggan removes defense down immediately; which means garius wouldnt have to worry about being oneshotted first turn of boss

for curse, same team except remove quarion and place ichiucatl 🤷‍♂️

and time everyone's ults so they go off at 17.5 seconds each turn so they get shields before boss ults + debuffs and strips

rot.... pretty much same team again except i'd use catherine instead of other healer in order to have debuff immunity

can potentially drop irina and add sigrid, which breaks affinity but on accuracy she can keep heal prevention on boss so it doesnt heal when it chews garius

[prime wolf]

I'll see if that team you reccomended works better I figured out a team that got me through stage 9 rot (since most pillar teams you reccomended need stun set) it got the job done but was by no means quick I had 30 seconds left on time out

[mental thunder]

well luckily with rot you dont need to get much from it like you do venom and curse

so a few runs even if slow should get you through if you are doing 9. any body piece with accuracy as main stat and 3 stun pieces, then you just use an artifact with accuracy on it right? should get you easily like 250 accuracy with accuracy main rune and decent accuracy sub stats

and 2 stun sets would be nice, 1-2 three ear sets

[prime wolf]

Are you meaning Lola? I can't find anyone named iola even in gallery

[mental thunder]

it is an I

[limpid latch]

IB heroe?

[mental thunder]

iceblast

[limpid latch]

Gg...

[radiant gorge]

Struggling on grave of curse. I was looking up the itube videos and it shows using a shield to stop Xenos’ shield. I’m missing Catherine, Adolphus and the staff thingy will never happen. So just checking if Nathaniel will work before I level him up. Or someone else that would be better.

[mental thunder]

ehhh so hold up real fast, and thanks for asking before making the mistakes. nathaniel IS good, he can be valuable for curse in applying a shield just before the boss ults. however, you need 2 dispels (irina and voresh are what i use, but you can use irina and ichiucatl if you want and not bother with nathaniel)...

the better question is, what does your roster of heroes look like so we can build you a team that works?

[radiant gorge]

Just the epics and legendaries. I think I have every rare if they help.

[faint jay]

How to build Shook for PvP?

[mental thunder]

Dont

Kidding, high accuracy and skill haste about it

[chrome marsh]

Could use some help on a pvp team. I’ve just been using dungeon teams up until now and that only gets me so far ya know. Here’s my legos and epics, have all rares too.

[thin glen]

I’m 20 days into s1 f2p. How my team look and any advice on ways to increase my damage output. Any rares or epics I should try and get . Was thinking going wild team might be good. I have Erich and rhash, nedda but wasn’t sure yet.

[mental thunder]

Season 1, journ and position him right next to theodore, sigrid, horrus up front and caraman. Build caraman high crit and attack, horrus as tanky as possible with some skill haste and resist. Journ super high accuracy and haste. Sigrid max crit and high dmg and atk, some skill haste. Theodore high crit and accuracy.

Positioning is important. Should be a good team. If for some reason having issues change out theodore for adolphus. You have to make someone not sigrid lowest starting hp and very high defense so jumpers dont kill them.

[atomic briar]

Anyone see 2 22m ice teams for bionphray here?

[distant turtle]

Ok, who should I build for talwer?

[mortal mountain]

dallbam tanks one, eurion tanks one, then just split up your best frost dps into two teams and hope your gear / artifacts are good enough. Can't really use melee very well on him. You definitely have one 22m team but 2 is a bit iffy.

One team could have elecebre one team vinyara, then auster and rava and lossenia and rowena look like your best frost dps. Then I guess last spot dorkuraz and voresh, although I think gardrus can be useful for recharge speed penalty and atk penalty on him.

[strange pewter]

Have eyeball/incense/crown - what should i get for next epic artifact? running f2p poison team atm. fru/heks/sig/lothair/lenlatis&sometimes dench

[heavy crow]

hey peeps anyone have a good lossenia lineup? my poison seems to be missing an aspect

[tight comet]

Hcfyh

😩😩💯

[heavy crow]

to save or not to save...

[dreamy musk]

Hey guys, can you help me solve the Fire Domain in S2?

• I have 3 healers, 2 cleansers+shield/deff buff + atk dawn
• Still get DESTROYED if I miss ANY spell from her without fulyl cleansed or being at max HP
• how do you deal with her? Do I just need to put Resistance gear on everyone and jsut ignore burns?
• What's wrong with that damage?

[royal yew]

does flora needs to be team up with two wild champs?

[mental thunder]

It isnt too bad using rare poison tank elf dude or lydia + heks + nimbus + mage dauntless gnome girl + iola/shook

Shook may be best to slow down boss cycling

Positioning matters

[mental thunder]

Why do you need that many healers… one crappy cleanse aoe right before boss ults and time a shield or defense up or both and you are fine

[dreamy musk]

I have no idea man, I don't understand why all of my heroes are suddenly so squishy in S2 on this boss

I'll try to gear up and try again

[mental thunder]

Well they are also underleveled

[dreamy musk]

is this a huge factor?

[mental thunder]

Which leads me to believe you arent in all epic gear either

[dreamy musk]

no, it's all blue

but I can complete Curse/Poison

[mental thunder]

So you basically showed up to a gunfight with a dull knife and dont know why you dying lol

Go fix your crap lol

[dreamy musk]

I mean, I don't remember it to be a gunfight in S1

It was easily farmable dungeon with a crappy cleanser just as you've said

Why is it harder at lvl 90 than Poison/curse at lvl 95

[mental thunder]

🤷‍♂️

Wait til venom and curse 9

They get a lot harder before they get easy

Its like i always say when people struggling: Team skill synergy > levels > gear > affinity/positioning. It is something in there, find what it is and address it

You can prob drop heks and bring more damage or debuffs like iola

Focus sigrid more damage setup instead

[dreamy musk]

Not really, I tried with Irina (2 atk dawn) and got OBLITERATED

[mental thunder]

But your gear stinky and underleveled team

[dreamy musk]

I auto grave poison lvl 95 with half team being 70

why such a diff damn

[mental thunder]

Then go get epic gear lol

Domains are harder s2

Doesnt have to be perfect gear, crit% hands, attack% body on 2x2 piece barbarian sets to get sigrid close to 75-100%

[dreamy musk]

that I noticed

[mental thunder]

Def% body and hands for garius on two of the hp + haste sets

And you are set

[dreamy musk]

I mean, garius is not taking damage

But the squishies just get bodied... I am just curious if a few levels and a lvl 16 vs lvl 12 hat will make such a huge diff in terms of HP

[copper reef]

does harpy nails artifact work on caspars passive ?

[mental thunder]

His def impacts his heals, so if you are full healing after boss ult with just garius you dont need heks

[mental thunder]

Probably but thats a real crap artifact for a dps

[dreamy musk]

I do, but then I get hit by his other 2 abilites and each one of them destroys me if I'm not at full hp or fully cleansed 😦

[copper reef]

i bought it for its ATK% ATK stats mostly tbh

[copper reef]

to replace volcanic disk rare artifact

wont be better?

not on caspar generally

[mental thunder]

I think most people use horseshoe or music box for dps units that arent dauntless

[copper reef]

alright thanks

[blissful dagger]

the 2 22m teams i had last season are:

eurion, rava, meggan, auster(or rowena), voresh

dalbam, rowena(or auster), vinyara, sovelis, dorkuraz

with your lineup, you already have that 22m - definitely use lossenia and elecebre

[old abyss]

Questions, will this team be ok for Journ

Clovis/Duling, Quarion, Wellby, Thaly, Alvis

[mental thunder]

Potentially, just keep the ranged units out of the aoe area and try and last the 5 minutes

Im using basically the same team but different tank

I may use sagomir main tank there to debuff as well

[old abyss]

I don’t have any Lego tank for radiant, and I’m using Garius for IB already 😦

However I realise that it will definitely hit tank and healer for the best formation

[tepid tinsel]

S2, stuck on goblin 2-1 using garius tathlyn mcFire sigrid dench

Is there a better team I could be using?

Tathlyn+Gitouna is a bit slower clear speed than mcFire in gitounas place I've found

And also in general some lineup help for maybe some heroes i should level up alongside my core team, domains I am clearing ice 3 so will get tathlyn gitouna up to 90 with MC and Garius, then try for lightning domain 3 to get dench and sigrid to 90 then my core team will be dench sigrid garius tathlyn and gitouna

[sullen bay]

Shook worth throwing scrolls into?

[mental thunder]

if he isnt landing his debuffs and yoou have no alternative sure

[latent isle]

@mental thunder rate my def bion tamar nastjenka shaggy iola

[mental thunder]

i think unless iola on hourglass and like 60+ haste she is irrelevant

[delicate pecan]

Hey all, still S1, in Overworld. I feel like I'm banging my head against a wall with these Domains and Chief Challenges. Only able to get to Domain level 3 or 4, and only hitting between 3-11mil on chiefs based on the challenge. Any team advice is appreciated, as well as gear, cause I'm sure that's my number one issue

[latent isle]

Bion ironmaiden, tamar witches, iola hourglass, nast her own arti, shaggy eye

[mental thunder]

no heals there; rather have sifris instead of iola

[ashen haven]

Whats the best team possible here for grave of curse?

[latent isle]

Why heal when u can chain stun

[mental thunder]

otherwise i'm going to bait your jumpers, debuff you and then oneshot you whenever sigrid ult is ready

[mental thunder]

i cant make you a team out of 15 mixed element units that mostly dont work at all together

[left trellis]

@mental thunder

[mental thunder]

@left trellis what

[mental thunder]

yeah that's not a great team... not enough aoe, dont really need garius and mcfire has no debuffs

[mental thunder]

if you still have rare selector chest you can pick up usha and replace garius there; build her tanky enough to survive + accuracy enough to land some frosts and give epic bracelet artifact to self heal. should help

if you used rare chest already idk, you dont have like any debuffers on your roster that i would invest in

[mental thunder]

gardrus is going to be better there than tathlyn for sure

try that? might help a little...

[ashen haven]

What should i do then?

[ebon fossil]

is zadok, isitarian worth training for necro chief challenge?

[tepid tapir]

Hay. I just want to start pillar of dark. What should I focus on building a team? S1

[mental thunder]

my usual advice: team skill synergy > level > gear > affinity/positioning. gear should be lego sets by otherworld but maybe you arent using ideal sets or missing something? 3-piece three ear set on healer, stun set on debuffer, platinum knight on dps, ancestral set on tank... 100% crit and 150+ damage, 3500+ attack on ddps and 250 acc or more on debuffers? 4000+ def and 70k+ hp on tanks? are they positioned not to get rekt by things like aoe? are you targeting the right enemy with your dps from the start of each round? are you just letting it auto and not manualling it to win?

for the bosses, you should have practiced against them in the chief challenges so if you arent getting good scores it sounds like you let that slip and didnt have teams ready for otherworld already? positioning and team composition really matters on those bosses, but you'd be surprised how crappy units can achieve 22m scores on them with the right teams and positioning and gear

[mental thunder]

maybe post all of your units lol?

[mental thunder]

isitarian is never worth leveling, prob worst epic in game arguably

[mental thunder]

1-2 stun sets on debuffers as per usual in all pillar and fey teams... attack down aoe, healing, shield, tank, dps 🤷‍♂️ you'll need to worry about things like questa and trolgar more than anything else, so prepare a low max hp but super high defense unit like a healer that can bait them and manually target them with ults to take them off the field

[tepid tapir]

thanks

[mental thunder]

voresh, nathaniel, irina, sigrid, quarion... just time all the ults to go off at 17 seconds and have enough accuracy on your debuffers to land the debuffs and dispels and you win

make sure your highest defense and hp hero is placed where the boss targets them with the single target hits

[ashen haven]

Thank u so much m8

[mental thunder]

probably quarion best to choose that roll since his heals dont need stats

[ebon fossil]

hmm, does irzillas, zadok, joyce, 1 tank + 1 healer sounds ok for necro chief challenge then?

[tepid tapir]

Hul'ende, Zhar'loth and Voresh with stun set is enough for stun and heal or should I need someone like Esella?

[mental thunder]

if the tank can attack down, maybe sure

[tepid tapir]

also tank suggest? I heard Dallbam is good?

[mental thunder]

estella is pretty bad tbh, i wouldnt build her.

irma best epic tank dark/ice

if you have her; otherwise elvis or dallbam sure; dallbam may help more in pillar

[tepid tapir]

I have Irma. Than i build her

[mental thunder]

ghul and zhar with voresh are good yes, sounds good. dallbam and maybe gladros if you have him for shields

irma* yes

should have plenty of heals if you bring gladros for shields

just pick who you are going to use as your jumper bait.......

[tepid tapir]

So Zhar, Voresh, Ghul(heal, cc, debuff) Irma tank

Have Gladros too

[mental thunder]

gladros or even thia

theres going to be hvitars to deal with also. remember that

[tepid tapir]

no Thia sadly

[mental thunder]

so on those floors maybe questa so you can pop them quickly

save ults, voresh defense down, questa ult kills her and then you can let your held breath out

[tepid tapir]

kay, but with these i have 5 and still dont have dps

Questa for these are ok

[mental thunder]

zhar, questa, ghul, voresh should be plenty of dps

you need to build them that way

250 accuracy, 3000+ attack, 100% crit and like 50k hp each with 1500+ def

gladros make super fat since his barrier scales on i think hp?

irma super high defense, and pick one of your ranged to be the lowest HP high defense bait

[tepid tinsel]

Thanks bro will try that for now

[mental thunder]

https://tenor.com/view/taken-liam-neeson-good-luck-on-phone-on-call-gif-16512272

[delicate pecan]

the numbers are super helpful, I'm probably not there with most, but way too over with some. I think my Nastjenka has over 5k attack but only 66 percent crit 😅

Which set is the three ear? I'm not seeing it in my list of gear. But I've been running gambler over plat night. The damage bonus is more useful than the potential true damage procs?

[ebon fossil]

its the atk buff, blue set

[brisk charm]

Set is called Brotherhood Spirit, but all the items are called Three Ear. It’s one of the Blue sets

[tepid tapir]

thanks i will fast pull up Irma and the Shielder... (12 scroll q.q)

[delicate pecan]

ohhhh, thanks for that

[mental thunder]

you have to understand that the true damage bonus is mostly useful against bosses not normal units.... which leaves plat knight your better bet, especially for units that have a slow attack rate but high ult and battle skill damage... if you are attacking every 2 seconds, that gambler bonus is pretty crap rate of proc at 30% chance

[delicate pecan]

should have paid better attention lol

[delicate pecan]

yeah I figured the chief challenge was like a boss fight, due to the health bar being like vortex. I also just rationalized everything that is control immune as a boss. Thanks for the help! I suppose it's time to grind

[mental thunder]

yeah but not domains though

those enemies all have lower max hp and the fights are shorter duration so you dont get as much benefit from the gambler over time

chiefs are about surviving max duration to do as much damage over time as possible; things like domains are about survival and winning, and usually long battles will kill you so you want shorter, higher damage spikes to kill

[hasty oak]

Hi guys,

free reset on my S2 season start ends tomorrow and I'm trying to work out my lineup(s) with limited resources early.

Any tips/ideas/suggestions are welcome!

Main question:
What Team to level second? It will most likely be in charge of farming **early ** Fire Domain 4+5 and the units should individually be able to translate well into Pillar of Trials, World Bosses and other content later, if possible. It can be mixed for now (3-5 Elements).

Secondary question:
Any improvements/suggestions for the main team? See details below.

Scrolls: Lets assume all Rares and Epics are scrolled. I have Vinyara and Khrysos scrolled. Probably be able to get 1-2 more legendaries scrolled thoughout S2.
**Artifacts: **All Rares and Epics owned.

First Team:
So far enjoying Burn synergy, hence it's looking like this:

General Purpose Team: Khrysos, Karf, Durem, Zhar'loth, Meggan
Goblin: Swap Meggan for Dane; Probably replace Khrysos at some point.
SingleTarget / Vortex: Swap Zhar'loth for Araces.
Maybe Adolphus, but I feel like Meggan outperforms him due to Khrysos pumping shields already. Also 3 Fire + 2 Necro should be easier to rank up early than 4 Fire + 1 Necro.

Second Team:
For Fire Domain specifically I was thinking:

Cassandra/Emma (maybe both or maybe Nathaniel?), Duling/Frurbath (or even Khrysos if survivable) + DPS
What DPS though? Voresh/Debuff + Sigrid? Usha/Trolgar + Rava? Bleddyn + Gerthin? Is Thunderbolt good (Hirvolm, Manda, Aryasso)?

Thanks in Advance!

[mental thunder]

easiest way to figure this out is look at what people are doing midseason chief challenges and build for those

pick 1 team now to build and by midseason have 3, one each pillar that can do 3 chiefs

that flame team could be great vs irzillas boss so keep that, thumbs up there.

may even want to consider leveling beags the rare burn enabler to go with durem and karf and drop zhar or meggan there to push 22m

that burn team also works for goblins, just remove zhar and meggan and slot sigrid and voresh

which saves you a lot of building that can go toward vortex which in your case i'd say is going to be dauntless

sutha, nimbus, nathaniel, frurb, and the rare dauntless gnome girl vani

so that gives you 2 teams, and with nathaniel cleanse it covers flame domain for you; burn should do fine in the other two domains from crowd control in tempest to single target in ice

burn team should also work in pillar nicely, can throw the enablers in stun sets and voila

[hasty oak]

Thanks, much appreciated. Haven't played Dauntless so far, so that's certainly tempting to try out.

[mental thunder]

you can use nimbus + vani on talwer boss and cheese the fight with all ranged heroes + 1 tank and just position them well so only tank takes damage... you'll need a defense down from somewhere but can use stegamoffin for that

cant use sutha on talwer but easy frurb, nathaniel, stega, nimbus, vani run for 22m

[knotty nymph]

I pulled Torrin as my first legendary. He looks pretty universally solid, but does he require (or thrive) with certain combinations?

[dusky bluff]

Did anyone ever try Fitz in flames domain dungeon? Does he work well there, or will he just transfer all debuffs to him and die against boss ult because he has do many stacks?
I'm in s1

[brisk charm]

In Season 1, I used Fitz + Enna alternating cleanses pretty well before I got the needed Skill Haste to just have Enna. Build him as high resistance so that he can resist the debuffs that he transfers to himself and he should be able to survive and not have many stacks (sometimes his Battle Skill will cleanse them all before the Ult timer, but it’s not reliable, much better to have Resistance to avoid getting stacks in the first place

[dusky bluff]

I don't have either yet, but a rare chest. I just think later in grave of rot he's likely more useful than Enna 🤔

[brisk charm]

I think my biggest issue at first was that he was only melee, so if he was gonna die it was usually from the 1st two waves, but having another melee to share some damage with would have helped

[dusky bluff]

So the debuffs pass a resistance check when being transferred?

[brisk charm]

Yup, basically gives you two chances to reduce burn stacks. First is Burning the original characters, and then any transferred ones also need to pass Fitz’s resistance (it winds up being a lot of burn stacks transferred, I don’t remember if the check is per transfer or per stack, but he would usually still wind up with a couple after and need some healing each round, but not a ton)

Still need to build him tanky, probably put a Resist Armor with Defense/HP substats and everything else Def/HP/Resist

[mental thunder]

is the dripping eye avatar pic from elder scrolls, warcraft or is that from baldurs gate.... i recognize it from an older game but i cant figure it out

[dusky bluff]

I see, thanks for the input 🙏

[brisk charm]

Neverwinter Nights, D&D game from a few years after BG 2 (think it was 2000 or so)

[mental thunder]

THATS what it was

the dreaded notBG3 lol

my brother loved nwn but i couldnt get into the 3rd edition gameplay

i didnt like all the pets all over the place

[brisk charm]

Yeah, think NWN was the first 3e game (unless it was Planescape: Torment, but think that was AD&D 2nd)

[mental thunder]

i was in super deep with bg1-2 playthrough at the time so was really hyped to have more or less another expansion to keep playing the same character even though in hindsight i was level like 40-50 and killing gods so it made no sense....

so when i found it was brand new game and 3rd edition, i was like ehhhhhhhhhhh and bought it, gave it to my bro and watched him play while i read

[faint jay]

Which hero is the best for dispel?

[ashen pilot]

[old berry]

Is there anyone who can help me clear Aurelium Source ? Boss fight in the mines...

Or have any advise ?

[mortal mountain]

what's your lydia and nathaniel gear and position?

[mental thunder]

there are different ones per element?

deverick is excellent, voresh dispels and blocks... ichiucatl has various benefits and can dispel and remove shields.... same with shook

[tepid tinsel]

Just pulled Usha and Gerthrin from purple die so gonna try usha instead of garius, but don't have the epic artifact for self heal. Gerthrin any use to me with her being my only ice blast hero so far?

[mortal mountain]

I think you can still pair gerthin with nord the ice blast rare and she'll do good damage. Not sure though haven't pulled a gerthin, but she's a beast.

[tepid tinsel]

Yeah I'm pretty stoked I pulled her, been seeing her name a lot lately haha

[mortal mountain]

horrus / errich / rhash / journ / liko could work for 22m fire boss probably. No adolphus so depends how long your horrus can survive. liko has heal on her bskill to help keep him up and can put that set that heals lowest hp member on her when she ults as well. Could replace journ with nedda if you want more damage since liko has buff prohibition, but he gives decent boost to ulti and atk penalty. Could also throw in Torrin here but he's good on necro boss as well, depends which ones you fight first weeks.

If you have staff garius your ice team can be Garius / Usha / Rava / Vinyara / Voresh and you buff prohibition the 2nd bskill and ulti to survive longer, or replace voresh with another frost dps if you want more dmg but die sooner.

Irma / Premsta / Zadok / Zhar'loth / Torrin probably for necro. Can replace zhar'loth with sharlach if it's better, but her recharge speed penalty is kinda nice. Can also throw in thia if debuff immunity lets your backline survive longer.

Frurbath + oggok can cheese the poison boss, then throw in somebody to apply poison and vicana for dps. All range dps team.

Lydia / Nathaniel or healer / Iola / Nimbus / +1 dauntless dps vani maybe. You can try nastjenka but idk how well melee do vs. talwer. If you can time the control immunity you could run both shaltar and nastjenka if you're going for melee strat with nathaniel to heal the clump. Could also put frur here instead if better and swap lydia to poison team if she can survive there with oggok. IDK what the timings are for oggok to cheese the boss.

Radiant team is scuffed. Just put in as many ranged dps as possible outside of journ range. You can swap garius here eventually as tank and throw in clovis for atk penalty and some ultimate meter reduction. Could use hegio as well but he has to jump out of bskill range. There are some positioning shennanigans you can do to turn the boss so play around with hegio jumping and boss targetting might find some optimal positioning.

[leaden relic]

8mil level cap lv50? Harruuummmmm

[onyx lintel]

Errich Rhash are not doing 22m on Irz before he kills Horrus

Oh on S1

[onyx lintel]

He said s1

[lunar fable]

Need 3rd team lineup help for season 1. Level 120 theomodius rotation battle. Need to know who to level up for one of the stages of this battle. Thanks.

[mortal mountain]

I use horrus / errich / nedda / journ / adolphus for 25m on week 1 of s2, so I think he could do it with that setup if gear is good.

Also missed that S1 part XD

[smoky hinge]

What are your thoughts on this hero? Someone said it’s great in Curse. I tried her and she was so-so. I am running Ice Domain now and thought to let her remove shield. And in 7 runs I did manually so far she didn’t remove the shield once. Also her heal is hard to time out. Is she worth scrolling in a long run? I want to get your opinion

[strange pewter]

Have eyeball/incense/crown - what should i get for next epic artifact? running f2p poison team atm. fru/heks/sig/lothair/lenlatis&sometimes dench

[brisk charm]

Well, it looks like you don’t have any Accuracy on her, so any shield dispel is almost certainly going to fail since it’s a contested Accuracy check vs your opponents Resistance. I ran Ilu for Frost Domain in S1 and she should remove shield a decent amount of the time, and used her for Curse mostly for Dispel & Def Up II, since there aren’t many AoE Def Up II that I’ve seen (got her to 90 in S1 but never leveled her up to 100). I personally have not felt the desire to scroll her, but she served her use on those stages (until I got Shook, and being able to time shield dispel has mostly replaced Ilu)

[smoky hinge]

Oh shoot, she needs accuracy AND enlightenment. Gotcha thanks

But 12 seconds on battle skill makes shield removal so unpredictable

[brisk charm]

Yeah, her shields are kinda weird to time (since it’s based on other’s Ultimate usage) and her healing is so conditional I wouldn’t rely on it except as a clutch, I treated her as a Dispeller and focused Acc, any extra heals/shields from Enl stats were just bonuses.

[brisk charm]

Yeah, Frost has an 8s shield, so should roughly dispel it before it’s done 2/3rds of the time, not the most reliable, and wound up turning off all my DPS ults until the shield was dispelled (or everyone got stunned).

Sometimes it will be pretty quick, sometimes it will be near the end, no real way to know

The other option for Shields is simply adding a more generally useful character and just tanking the side effects of the shield not breaking

So while I wouldn’t necessarily invest more in Ilucatl, you can at least get some use of her at level 90 unscrolled for those stages

[analog minnow]

I need to use my stamina very precisely to finish my chief teams today. I did some research but appreciate any advice. No more epic scrolls to use.

[mortal mountain]

what does your psychichore upgrades look like?

[onyx lintel]

What was your gearing and positioning for that? and positioning for

Maybe I just need to build Horrus and that's the difference?

Karf Durem Journ Isolde Adolphus not doing it

[mortal mountain]

horrus is beast frontliner, especially with adolphus because adolphus passive

[onyx lintel]

All fully scrolled

[mortal mountain]

but you can use liko as well as that set that gives 15/20% hp heal when ulti to compensate for no adolphus probably

one sec i'll bring it up

[onyx lintel]

F rot lol

I did like 10 runs total on rot so far this season

[analog minnow]

Haven’t used much affinity 5 yet so I saved some

[onyx lintel]

But I'm also full affin in lightning/poison and minimal in my fire

[mortal mountain]

i manualed errich to try and single out boss to apply witch's better, but let nedda ulti basically when she wanted unless it was a second or two away from errich def down proc then i'd hold her. I only have the +10% fire/necro upgrade for psychicore and the +50 acc one

[onyx lintel]

Yeah same, hmm

I'll try Isolde one more time, if not then Horrus is getting it

[mortal mountain]

horrus far superior tank for this fight

and it's not even close

he gets so many shields cuz multiple enemies hitting on him and then paired with adolphus passive who shields on bskill and on ulti he gets healed up super quick

[mortal mountain]

well ice team seems like a no-brainer, alton boss is pretty weak. If you have staff garius you can just run him as your only support, if not you'll probably want to throw in mithrasea. Garius / Gerthin / Bleddyn and then either voresh to block buffs for second bskill + ultimate or mithrasea to just zombie revive team every time they die / +1 more dps.

Fire is another easy one, but you didn't level the champs you need for it, but for next week horrus tank / adolphus support / liko block buffs, errich + nedda dps. Could also experiment with dane or ghul'ende here for more damage etc.

Your lightning team looks like the only other one ready to go, frurbath solo tank, vani, yagnatz, iola. Nimbus next week to replace either iola or yagnatz not sure which is beter, and then any healer like heksandra or sifris works.

Or you could try poison. Frur + oggok can cheese tank the fight for 5 minutes I believe and then just put in 3 dps like eli + dench + horace or something. Until then you'd use whatever you have available.

[onyx lintel]

Adolphus pretty similar

Isolde pretty similar

[analog minnow]

Thanks, yea my idea was to level a few more today and buy some bread, Errich/nedda was the one I saw recommended for fire, best way to complete necro and poison not as clear, and I know my radiant will be the worst

[onyx lintel]

Journ pretty similar

Did you have any specific timings or just manual Errich?

[brazen heath]

👍

[onyx lintel]

Durem pretty stacked up now

Karf ok but might try to regear

lol I'll build Horrus next week 😛

[old abyss]

Not sure if I am doing right.

But I managed to hit 11m with IB and 7m w dauntless now.

Still struggling with radiant. Today is my last day of first week so I gotta hit it regardless haha

I was just testing w radiant if it’s ok I I’ll try to hit level 90

[mental thunder]

Im just going to go garius, gillian, wellby, tahtlyn, wellby next week on journ and call that done

Or potentially gillian + acilia and use garius for alton boss instead

[onyx lintel]

All these dudes with Tathlyn,
still one of the epics I'm missing

Voresh, Tathlyn, and Tonalnan.....

[analog minnow]

I completed s1 without adolphus and ihuicatl that was stupid

[azure sluice]

Never gotten Frur. So many f2p guide used him instead of Garius. Only managed to clear Sivesta tier 2 with Adolphus.

[rapid star]

Can I get help with an idea of how to gear Flora? Also, am I wrong in using her with Felicity?

I know Flora benefits from enlightenment but his much is enough and do I still need to stack on attack crit etc?

[azure sluice]

Not wrong, Felicity is good wild dps. But Tonalnan and Errich has better synergy because the number of hit.

[rapid star]

Better synergy with flora?

[azure sluice]

From my experience getting hit by Flora in Pillar of trials, her passive trigger for each hit. Once She triggered 4times because of Errich ultimate. Although Felicity battle skill can made up for that if you build her for that I think. Still better than Rhash.

[rapid star]

Ok. My Felicity is 100% crit rate so she ults about 2x for every one of flora

[azure sluice]

Have none of the defensive artifact? Shield, scarab etc?

[nimble atlas]

I just started this week, and ended up rolling a hubert and a martina, dont have any other rally, is it worth using as is?

[dark pike]

Who is my best vortex team?

[azure sluice]

For starter yes. But late game Rally need Lorentheel to be optimal and the drop off to Tathlyn and Hegio is big. But you are still so far away anyway, just keep rolling the purple dice and hope for good pull.

[radiant gorge]

Are the ice blast teams capable of doing more. Only doing 2.5m on level 2 of vortex. Should I switch to another team??

[knotty nymph]

Need help for grave of curse (and goblin, and any other tips)

1st 2 screenshots (through Eli) are heroes I have tagged for leveling up in time. Anyone I should prioritize (or move into my priority list)?

[mortal mountain]

ice blast teams are fine, might want to swap rose for catherine or gillian if you have her for v4 though

[radiant gorge]

I don’t have either Catherine or Gillian

[azure sluice]

Acilia, one of the other new Radiance leggos? Basically to counter the def- debuff.

[radiant gorge]

Nah I don’t have that one

[oblique tide]

You still have low levels and probably rare gear right? Rose is pretty weak on Vortex though, and with Shinnah in your team, Bleddyn is also suboptimal. If you can, use other heroes for them.
The core, Garius, Shinnah and Gerthin are great

[rare grail]

Sorry for the newbie question. But for someone that doesn’t have legendary heroes but only epic and rare, which heroes do you recommend to raise up?

Legendary I have only Tamar…

For the vortex I use: Hegio Vasska Sigrid Usha Heksandra

[lucid basin]

Just ignore my healer plz

I’ll level her up when I next feel like grinding goblin lair 2

[empty trench]

I guess Ill ask here as well maybe ill get some more thoughts about it, when running "Ivelios Garret and Nimbus" Would it be worth at all to take any of those out to put in Shaltar instead?

[halcyon copper]

is she better than garius to tank and heal? worth it to upgrade skills?

[viscid dirge]

I use AOE because the second stage you need to hit the minion that sparkles, so a good tank, heal and AOE and spread em out

[viscid dirge]

Shalter shines quite well maybe a bit better than nimbus but i dont use nimbus but my shalter does better damage than my tharivol

[empty trench]

My thinking is that if I run Shaltar instead of nimbus, can i really get the procs from ivelios/shaltar without anyone with lots of attack speed

[viscid dirge]

Shalters ability effects EVERYONE but is even more effective on dauntless, i hardly run speed

[empty trench]

Yeah but then the only person attacking alot is garret is what im thinking

[viscid dirge]

The only way to know is to level shalt and test

[empty trench]

If i had the resources i would but its kinda risky for me to do that

[lucid basin]

most of my heros are AOE?

as in all but healer

well ig Horrus ain’t really aoe

[viscid dirge]

Bring heks up to 90 as well, make sure everyone is in good leggo gear, i didnt check the levels till now, you might even need both runes activated so actually get them to like level 95 actually, he has three phases and you need heavy damage while surviving his AOE damage, second phase is about killing the minions that appear as quick as possible

Ypu have 10min

By 8 min you should go to phase two and by 4/5mim you need to be by 3rd phase

[lucid basin]

thx for the tips

give me a minute (currently in gl raid and I’ll send pic of all my current sommoned heroes in case there are any I sound be using

the only one that I think might be worth using is questa

[viscid dirge]

Just tag me as im at work

[lucid basin]

Tag? U mean mention?

[viscid dirge]

Yes the @

[lucid basin]

okie 🙂

@viscid dirge those are all my summoned epics

[viscid dirge]

Garius is OP, replace heks with him then what rares do you have aswell

[lucid basin]

one sec

Wait if I replace hek doesn’t that mean I have no healer?

i mean zhar can heal

[viscid dirge]

Read garius skills and press detail

[lucid basin]

Ok that ultimate is crazy

and aura is nice

[viscid dirge]

You need to read characters skill and so forth as you can miss alot

[lucid basin]

wait the untimate will be amazing in what’s her name?

The fire dungeon

[viscid dirge]

Yes though cleansers are a must, but he works almost everywhere

[lucid basin]

my memory is trash lmao

that was the thing my team was missing, i had a tank, healer and dmg dealer but i didn’t have a debuff remover

thx for the help, I’ll leave you to your work

[viscid dirge]

No probs anytime

[sinful yoke]

hehhe

[mental thunder]

Garius only removes debuffs on himself remember. Not the whole team. There are plenry of cleanses that do - for instance enna is a rare lightning healer who cleanses 1 debuff from entire team

In fire domain you can time enna ult to cleanse just before boss ult and then time garius ult a few seconds later to heal the team completely.

[azure sluice]

Use her as support for Garius. She carried me on so many dungeon

[digital lily]

Guys how do u build your furbath? Do u need accuracy for his passive skill?

[mental thunder]

Accuracy 200-250, defense 4000+, hp 75k+

[ebon thistle]

Not for his passive. Only if you want his atk penalty to land, then you'll need acc. If you have other characters covering atk penalty then you can skip acc. I'd go high def and high up if that route. He will never be a big DPS troop, so don't worry much on atk... It is nice if you have some though.

[mental thunder]

Idk why youd think it would matter for the passive cleanse

Thats more like a buff than a debuff so no chance to fail just a chance to not happen at all bc 30%

Skill haste is nice for battle skill cycling and attack speed nice for his passive

But def first

Mine has close to 5000

[azure sluice]

There's someone on my server that ranked top 10-15 with only Garret and Schaltar as DPS. And he was outranked by someone that only use Garrett and Ivelios.

So replace Nimbus.

[ashen haven]

Just pulled adolphus and zharloth. Any team suggestion for goblin?

[digital lily]

I see.. Thank u guys for help

[mental thunder]

well those 2 things dont make sense together... adolphus certainly is not a goblin team member. zhar COULD be if you are planning on using fire/dark specifically but i wouldnt specifically include zhar by choice there.

voresh, sigrid, dorkruz, irina, usha would be a better team. usha tanky with bracelet artifact at +0 is fine for survival

[ashen haven]

Thank u m8

[vale harbor]

[turbid jasper]

no legendary artifacts either I have 20 lego heroes and still no dupe

[keen nova]

Any lineup tips given this roster for pushing goblins and dungeons?

[kind python]

Bonjour

[wild ermine]

Level up

[mental thunder]

1 melee and 4 ranged debuffers with aoe. dench, sigrid, irina, zharloth and horrus with skills turned off - for now.

[lucid basin]

thx

i just find the skill wording a bit difficult to understand

in all other games that I play that have the idea of champions/heros when it mentions a skill that solely affects the here it says the heros bame instead of “the hero”

[mental thunder]

well at least you can kind of generalize that to "the hero" vs "the target/ally"

[lucid basin]

fair enough yeah

@viscid dirge one more question, for the Violet dragon what element traveler do I want?

[mental thunder]

lightning or fire wouldnt matter it depends on your team

but traveler is also kind of lackluster and replaceable later on

[viscid dirge]

Like Mrow said the traveler is easy to replacelater but from your minions its difficult as you dont have many a AOE so you doing fire/poisen sonid try to stuck to then a fire traveler

[wheat jetty]

hi, what can i do in fey 88 against this:

[mental thunder]

https://tenor.com/view/rocky-rocky2-win-inspiration-gif-8866665

but really, bring aoe stun and kill zharloth with ults before she kills you and bring a cleanser and heals or berengar kills you

[lucid basin]

thx I’ll stick with fire

[gaunt birch]

Can anyone help me with a Kauf build. Either he stacks burn and hits like a wet noodle or does some damage but never debuffs

[half ridge]

you just need to match the accuracy requirement of whatever activity ur doing, usually youll only need acc chest + neg rune with affinity tree bonus to cover most

[fierce flax]

Hey all

[mental thunder]

well just like any other debuff based dps you either pick them to be the enabler or you give them someone to enabler their damage... right? like you bring beags to stack burns and you have karf dps....

if you are using karf solo, your team is missing a lot

[signal verge]

how should i place formation for Necro boss and Radiant boss guys?

[strange pewter]

that's right, no defensive and no healing. maybe i should grab a scarab or the spindle?

[mental thunder]

season 1, season 2? otherworld?

[signal verge]

im in SS2, Andreth event

it is about Journ Boss and Shai'nachtan Boss to be specific

[mental thunder]

journ you want ranged light dps if you have them, line them up on the sides so they dont get hit with the aoe and just put tank up front

for instance i plan on using wellby, tathlyn, alvis, healer, garius

probably gillian bc i have her but quarion would prob be fine for the defense up or catherine for the immunity

but if tank only one getting hit it becomes a check on your defense stat and hp only

shainachtan i cant help you bc i dont have necro team built yet for it, no idea

[signal verge]

i have rough ideal about line up, can you show me pic about placement ?

[mental thunder]

in 2 hours i can after reset and i can go in lol

can just show you in dungeon

[signal verge]

just go any stage and place it

[mental thunder]

something like this

just spread them out so he doesnt target anyone but tank with battle skill or ult

because the ult damage will be 3 lines in middle

[signal verge]

if i recall correctly, didn't journ ulr is cross line?

[signal verge]

oh so if i only use one melee, then he go up and then be the only one get hit?

[mental thunder]

so his battle skill is the 3 lines; ult is diamond

you may need to stagger team or use a melee and place tanky healer close to tank

but i think ult is just right in front of him? i am not sure if he sends it a distance out, really forget

"to enemies within range" usually means he places the diamond where it hits th emost targets

so if its a diamond he'll hit 2 people each in that formation i think

[signal verge]

yea, diamond shape work like that

[mental thunder]

monkey around with placement; some people might even be using 4 units

to stagger their positions so he only targets tank; that's what you do with lossenia

[signal verge]

i already use Fru on lightning boss, will save him for poison team next week

k, thank for helping

will try rn

[obsidian phoenix]

That's my journ placement

[signal verge]

so healer and tank will being ult by journ ?

[obsidian phoenix]

Correct. And it hits hard.

But the 3 DPS receive no hits.

[signal verge]

thank for your info

[lucid basin]

had a good now and made it 150k dmg into the last stafe at around 3:50

no buffs or the skill that gets 1 charge per kill and needs 100 charges to activate

I made it into the third stage at about 4:40-5

so i think my dmg is ok

it’s more about inproving my survivablity now

[atomic briar]

2 22m teams possible for auster otherwordly? Currently primary team is felicity/taln/adolphus/errich/isolde

[ebon thistle]

Can someone explain Alton's passive skill to me, when it says "those without Rally have a 50% chance to gain Rally which will be immediately consumed." What does immediately consumed do? Trigger their battle skill? Ultimate? Or just apply it and take it away for no reason?

Also, for the first part of that passive, it says "when a Rally ally attempts to cast a skill that consumes Rally..." So does the ally need to have Rally to be consumed when it casts that skill or just any time a skill is used that could consume Rally?

Feel like those couple nuances can make a big difference for how strong he can be.

[lucid basin]

nvm I beat the violet dragon lol

[lucid basin]

i didn’t realise that the agro was going to garius instead of Horrus so he was dying 1 mom into the first stage

ggs then 🙂

[ornate zenith]

Alrighty you knowledgeable people. I come once again for more team advice. I'm still on S1 and the Copper Dragon drops in a week. I'm trying to pre build my 6 teams before it starts so they are ready to go immediately. Here is my current roster. I have all of the rares. Would love advice for some different teams. 😁

[azure sluice]

Scarab I guess, especially if you have Garius

[visual storm]

What's a solid single team score on end game dragon ?

@here lol.help

[brisk charm]

I have Alton and I run Rally for pretty much everything I can, there is one minor nuance that I’d have to do some testing, but let me explain the best I can. The “Rally Ally” means another character on your team with the tag Rally (not Support or Defense, or any of the other elements’ tags), so if any of them Ult, then he has a 50% chance of giving them Rally which is consumed for that casting of skill and triggers the Skills “If this character has Rally, consumes Rally and…” (I think all of them do) and also triggers any “On gaining Rally….” Passives. Because this is still counted as giving a buff, Buff Prohibition on the Rally Ally will cause this to basically no-op since they can’t gain Rally since Rally is a buff. Basically, the passive skill alone acts like all your characters having the Rally 50% of the time (assuming Alton himself doesn’t get Rally, not 100% positive but don’t think it applies to his own skills , that’s the part I’m unsure about) and if they do have Rally already, gives them an extra damage boost. Then during the 10s after casting his Ult, it basically acts as if everyone has Rally for the next 10s (so someone like Wellby could get 2 castings of the Ult with the reduced recharge time with the Rally recharge)

[strange pewter]

no garius yet, have furb

[ebon thistle]

Oh wow, ok. This is then quite powerful. I'll need to work on my other rally troops and level them a bit. Thank you for sharing your explanation and experience.

[azure sluice]

Except Bionphray and Ripekas, the other 3 is AoE ranged. So the positioning is important. 2 person close to each other to be tank, and if possible ranged dps spread out.
Radiant use Garius and healer as tank, replace Hegio with Wellby, or make Enna 2nd tank so you can use Quarion in Lightning
Lightning since your dps is melee and you have only 1 ranged healer, just suck it up and make them tanky. Personally I bait Errich with Quarion and Catherine bunched up on a side, and the melee dps on the back
Auster you might want to have cleanser. Or just make Horrus as tanky as possible.
The rest you have better heroes than me.

[ornate zenith]

@azure sluice I appreciate the response, but I was asking in regards to the Copper (Resurgent) dragon, not the chief challenges. 😬

[brisk charm]

Yeah, I have him, Lorentheel, and Wellby on my team for most content. With Loren’s domain recharging 25% and Wellby Recharging 50% with Rally, Wellby is rarely under 75% Ult gauge (just tested with Loren & Wellby both at full auto, and manually timing Alton to trigger as close to Wellby’s 2nd Ult after Lorentheel to both get Loren’s 25% recharge and last for as many Wellby Ults as possible, and I made it through 1m37s of Venom 8 with Wellby never at less than 75% Ult except for the first few seconds (normally would need to delay him occasionally for a few seconds to wait for a Loren/Alton Ult, but I think twice he wasn’t guaranteed Rally from Alton but lucked out on the 50% chance each time)

[ebon thistle]

If I do not yet have Loren, is Rally still viable? Thinking Alton, Wellby, Hegio.

[brisk charm]

I think either Alton or Lorentheel is enough for a relatively consistent Rally team, since of the others are a singular Random Ally or Random Rally Ally. I would probably have split them up and tried to made two Rally teams if I had a bit more ranged Rally DPS (I used Hegio last time for OW Dragon and have him fully scrolled)

[old abyss]

@mortal mountain there 🥲 I managed to hit 11m for Alton and Tawler, like right at the dots.

But for Journ I just made 3m

First week passed ady, need to build another one team for second week as wel

[mortal mountain]

click this button and repost pls

can even sort by element pairings

[old abyss]

Alright! 🙂 I have all the rare if it didn’t show.

[mortal mountain]

Ivellios / Nimbus / Iola / Frurbath / Sifris for lightning 22m if geared properly.

Horrus / Adolphus / Errich / Nedda / +1 either fihrah or liko for buff strip or torrin for heals and buff horrus tank can 22m there probably.

Garius / Shinnah / Bleddyn / Zhorak / Voresh can probably 22m alton

Irma or Isolde / Zadok / Adrie / +more support or damage maybe for necro. Just 4 backliners and one tank up front try to keep them alive as long as possible maybe a 7 or 11m team with decent gear. Could put torrin here to keep irma and team alive longer and fill up with damage dealers.

Clovis / Gillian / Wellby / Tathlyn / Alvis for radiant and keep them out of range of journ's bskill. Position so clovis and gillian tank the ulti.

Frurbath or another tank / heksandra / vicana / eli / Jijel or Corrin probably for lossenia is enough for 11m.

Depends a lot on which lego artifacts you have and your gear, but those general strats will work for 11m on those bosses

just need good positioning and set up gear properly

[old abyss]

I only have gatekeeper for Garius 🫣

As of now the gear as still week. But managed to get IB and Alton to 11m

[mortal mountain]

for alton I use voresh to block buffs on 2nd bskill and ultimate, garius ults right before ultimate and they are both on 18s rotation to keep pace with boss

[old abyss]

But not that week also I grinded so much 😢 out of bread already

[old abyss]

Yes I am using this too, but the hit is so strong my dps would die. I manage to last until 3 mins ish I think

[mortal mountain]

yeah there's a lot of rng in that fight

I use garius / usha / drizz't / rava / voresh and hit 26m on week1

[old abyss]

But thank you tho for the advice, I will try out the combination.

I didn’t use Clovis at first for Journ cause he not tank enough so I used Duling. Maybe I’ll try Clovis again

[mortal mountain]

radiant is the worst so i'd leave it to last week if possible

[old abyss]

I have a bad frost team so I didn’t use it

[mortal mountain]

ice blast should be stronger anyways, i just only have those

[old abyss]

Damn it wuwu cause I’m using IB for vortex so it’s already an existing team hahaha

[mortal mountain]

but you don't have gerthin so maybe not, idk what numbers those guys are doing, also zhorak needs a ton of enlightenment to make him do good damage

[old abyss]

I’m at 250 for Zhorak now

[mortal mountain]

that's very low

[old abyss]

Trying hahahaha

[mortal mountain]

idk if you'd be better off just using gillian + garius instead of zhorak and trying to keep shinnah / bleddyn / voresh alive longer. Hard without seeing gear and damage numbers from the run

anyways those rough outlines of teams should help with bosses, the most important thing though comes down to gear and positioning and skill timings

and how many psychicore upgrades you have

[old abyss]

I am using Gillian for other bosses so it’s quite limited now. I’m short in certain epics.

I think my gearing is like 80%. But it’s hard to grind w/o bread now. My runes are still not there yet.

As for Psy, I’m only at the first 5 affinity. So a bit lacking too.

I am not aiming for 22m, but hoping to at least hit 7/11m as much as I can

You helped a lot thank you so muchhhhhhh @mortal mountain

[old abyss]

Actually I’m using quarion instead of Zhorak also. Cause die too fast

[mortal mountain]

you really shouldn't be dying with garius w/ gatekeeper's until halfway through the run

along with voresh if he's blocking the proper skills every rotation. Maybe you have really bad gearing choices or something

[old abyss]

Cause most of the arts not maxed

[onyx lintel]

What is the rest of the team

[old abyss]

My dps is not strong enough I think. It’s usually not scrolled if epics

[cerulean gyro]

Should I invest in Garian or Heksandra for my Fire/Poison team?

[mortal mountain]

heksandra probably. Cheaper to invest in, doesn't require scrolls, good healer support

[primal moth]

I am searching for one or two good teams in S2 to do quests and to be able to run the dungeons. Any sugestions?

[tepid umbra]

lf suggestions for Questa comp

[waxen arch]

I'm trying to figure out which would be a better team for tawler, the first or second team?