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[distant wyvern]

So could make wild team, dauntless, burn, thunderbolt, or iceblast

[onyx lintel]

Your best bet for Vortex rn is Garius Furbath Nasjenka Garrett and Schaltar

When you hit Vortex 4, you gonna want to drop Garius for Nathaniel

You have 3 viable teams

For frost you can do Lossenia, Gillian, Garius, Drizzt, and Rowena

For fire you can do Ghul Adolphus Tonal Errich and Rhash

Garius teams kinda depend on him having staff tho

[atomic briar]

One more q for you sorry! I have another pvp team acilia/huberg/gilian/philto/lorentheel. Struggling to stay alive long enough to get dgm off. Any epic heroes you would replace gil with? I got most of them

[onyx lintel]

That rally team not gonna work in pvp

[gentle iron]

Anyone knows what type of stats get valued the most for each role in the Hero Rating thingy?

[atomic briar]

Yah it really isnt workin out 😦

Thought acilia would tank enough but nah

[onyx lintel]

Only Hegio really works for rally

[half ridge]

what elo are u in arena @atomic briar

[atomic briar]

2286

[half ridge]

the only really successful rally teams are thelendors but i just one shot them even with mithrasea

[onyx lintel]

If you have Garius you can do Acillia, Garius and your rally team, but I would drop probably Philto for Hegio and

[half ridge]

u still early s1?

[noble jungle]

Heeey! Is there anyone who could help me with my vortex team? 🤔

[atomic briar]

Half way thru

[half ridge]

makes sense

[onyx lintel]

Show roster

[atomic briar]

Hmm i use garius for my dauntless team

[noble jungle]

I have gotten way better gear but still not getting the DPS I want @onyx lintel

[half ridge]

id drop the rally one and run sigrid voresh onstead

[onyx lintel]

dauntless team in pvp? lol

[half ridge]

dauntless is good in pvp?

[noble jungle]

@onyx lintel

[half ridge]

one of the best comps rn

[atomic briar]

Its my best performing team lol, ivelios/tamar/thari/garius/sutha

[atomic briar]

Worddd. I see it all the time. Annoying lol

[half ridge]

oh youre not even running shagrol nastjenka lol

[atomic briar]

Dont have jenka

[half ridge]

usually its garius / tamar / zeffi / nastjenka / shagrol

[atomic briar]

Dont have zeffi either

Wow i thought my teams werw decent. Clearly not 😝

[noble jungle]

@do you want my rooster aswell? 🤔

@atomic briar @half ridge I’m actually having great luck with Garius/Voresh/Sigrid / shai’nacht and Perkune atm 😉✌️

[half ridge]

yeh its pretty good

perkunte does well in arena?

[atomic briar]

@half ridge @onyx lintel here is my rosfer. What 3 teams would ypu recommend for pvp?

[half ridge]

if you want the absolute best 3 to aim for

[noble jungle]

Yeah he usually one shots 1-2 ppl in the back and then I just slowly kill the rest

[half ridge]

probably:
hvitar / elecebre / lucien / lossenia / felosia or ghul
sigrid / journ / ergender / caraman / garrika
acilia / nastjenka / shagrol / tamar / mith maybe? i forgot

@atomic briar this is the best 3 in the game

[half ridge]

ill have a look in a but about to board a ferry lol

wtf u have thelendor too you should use him over philto

[atomic briar]

Thanks! Those top 3 teams look dope, i dont hafe all heros for any of them tho lol

[half ridge]

yeh im more of the frost enjoyer myself

[atomic briar]

Lol rly. Woops. Lmk when gou have a look and i will amend my teams.

[half ridge]

acilia / thelendor / mithrasea / lorentheel / huberg
necro team i told u earlier
ivellios / tharivol / shagrol / tamar / garius maybe

can try sutha or shagrol really

@atomic briar

[atomic briar]

Thanks dont have mithra tho 😦

[half ridge]

oh lol

sagomir then maybe

or spend more and get mith u f2p

can u head to arena and then hero gallery then send an ss of all ur legos @atomic briar im curious lol i think we are pretty similar

[atomic briar]

Sent u my list already

[gentle iron]

Anyone knows?

[half ridge]

yeh meant like that haha guess i can just count them

[atomic briar]

Ooh ok one sec

[gentle iron]

Damn hvi dupe, btw how much is that account worth in $ so I can get a clear picture somewhat

[half ridge]

im at 34, 5 exclusives + dupes

[half ridge]

2 hvi dupes ive got artifact as well

[atomic briar]

Lmao i dont egen know gow to filte rout epics

[gentle iron]

Damn that’s some luck

[half ridge]

in the arena gallery it sorts by legos

[atomic briar]

Danfggg i want hvi 😦 om lemme try

[atomic briar]

31

[half ridge]

not bad

youve got the ones im missing for rally 😂

[atomic briar]

Just blue by crystals and pulled vinyara. 32. Lol

[half ridge]

🤣

im waiting for s2 to refresh the double gems

then ill do more pulling

what i like about this game is you dont need to necessarily keep spending, you can do a lot early on then chill

[atomic briar]

Im an addict tho

Degenerate

[trail summit]

🍴

[half ridge]

couldnt find anything on this beside the discussion from yesterday

[distant wyvern]

Thanks @onyx lintel. No staff....yet

Also, I am doing III right now doing 10 Mil with Nastyjenka Garret Frubath Sigrid Gillian. Was planning on switching Gillian for Nathaniel soon

[atomic briar]

Would tathlyn/thelendor/bionfray/catherine/donella be able to 22m jathalea?

[mental thunder]

All gonna get stun locked and die

Oh jalhalea

Eh maybe. Thelendor going to die though bc aoe

[atomic briar]

Yah thats fair. Alternarivly - good team to down thelendor boss?

Also have vinyara

[stable cipher]

Hopeing someone could help me with this

[earnest forge]

Any tips on how to clear this?

Nvm cleared it by swapping MC with heks (ftw) lol

[ornate zenith]

Looking to improve my arena teams. Both main arena team and team arena. Also, for main arena, would love recommendations on how to optimally build the heroes. Thanks for any advice!

[peak crystal]

Anyone help me make a team for errich and jathalea chief boss?

[old abyss]

Which one would be better for vortex? I just got Sutha lollll

Here

[limber otter]

How do you pass Fey Meander Lvl 141 2nd stage? The AOE damage and ultimate down is just annoying... I built all my chars to have >270 Resistance... but still died

[gentle iron]

Anyone did this and can share his team comps?

[blissful dagger]

i did it w/ voresh, frurbath, horrus, sigrid, adolphus.. more than 100 tries (10x a day for 10days or more)..

[gentle iron]

1st fight: make quarion the lowest hp and stack him with tons of defense. Focus on killing shagrol and stunning him.

[small dragon]

recommended season 1 vortext team??thanks

[quiet oracle]

So, just got Durango.
Do I finally have a team to use with my first legend Vicana?

For Vortex or even just "endgame" dragon

Corrin + Vicana + Durango + tank/healer
Accuracy/Enlightenment chest all round/CR + CD for all except Vicana (go with Enlightenment for her and vile ink?)

[half ridge]

Lightning 1: Catherine / Quarion / Iola / Garett / Schaltar ( 22M )
Lightning 2: Nastjenka / Tharavol / Meredith / Caledo / Irina ( 22M )
Fire: Errich / Tonal / Eches / Isolde / Adolphus ( 22M )
Necro 1: Berengar / Ghul / Deverick / Thia / Questa ( 22M )
Necro 2: Gladros / Irzillas / Premtsa / Zhar loth / Gaiolere ( 22M )
Frost 1: Ripekas / Lossenia / Auster / Felosia / Meggan ( 22M )
Frost 2: Hvitar / Ice Trav / Soveliss / Elvis / Rava ( 22M )
Poison 1: Horrus / Corrin / Dench / Lothair / Vicuc ( 22M )
Poison 2: Ergendar / Jatha / Twitch / Vicana / Heksandra ( 22M )
Poison 3: Frurbath / Sigrid / Eli / Durango / Theodore ( 22M )
Rally 1: Garius / Alton / Philto / Sagomir / Wellby ( 22M )
Rally 2: Mithrasea / Huberg / Grishnaar / Tathlyn / Kamari ( 22M )

copy one of those

[atomic briar]

O ty

[small dragon]

how about no lego??

no lego team for otherworl chaos shadow please,thanks

[mental thunder]

You asking for just random best in slot teams? But no one going to waste their time advising on that, need to show your roster for people to tell you what you CAN set up

[dark trail]

Hi, please help to assemble the composition for pve and pvp

[tepid crescent]

my new 70lvls + blue equip lineup with 3+2 bonuss f2p for farming harpie lvl75 venom 3

[mental thunder]

For fire bonus team (auster boss): errich, tonalfan, adolphus, vicuc, frurbath… or you can get away with hels healing if you want to save vicuc for ripelkas boss

[mental thunder]

Lightning damage team: you have like no lightning dps so may be a skip. Need another dauntless… shagrol + nimbus/schaltar/thurnus + iola + volthug + quarion would work

[mental thunder]

Dark damage bonus (thelendor boss): summoners work well since his ult hits many targets… premtsa, tioh, irma, pargu/gardrus, meggan

[mental thunder]

Ripelkas (poison bonus): vicuc, eli, horrus, sigrid, eches or dubok

[peak crystal]

I need help for continental boss weekly s1 teams

[mental thunder]

I find auster, errich and jathalea easiest to score on bc predictable and low debuffs so less cleanse needed

[small dragon]

thanks sir

[small dragon]

is it okey if their skill lvl is low

[mental thunder]

If i say no what will you do about it anyway lol

[gentle iron]

For copper dragon is it better to keep Rowena here or put in deverick for attack down?

And here is it even worth running without a cleanser? my Catherine is taken.. and the rare cleanser sucks I think

[mental thunder]

Only need two dps i think, attack down going to serve you better to last 8 minutes

But thia will only invis and heal your ranged so may want to go rowena over usha

Since all attacks are aoe it doesnt matter melee or ranged but with thia need ranged

Thia on incense, deverick on candle, meggan heal book, rava witch remains, rowena full dps

[mental thunder]

Can prob drop shook tbh and run enna there for 1 cleanse and heal; you may get 10-15m from the two dauntless and irina if geared well so why not

Not going to be top10 numbers but points are points

[jovial lance]

Need help for jathalea boss, can i make two teams?

@mental thunder help

[mental thunder]

Where are your lightning units…? Cant make teams out of nothing. Just your damage needs to be radiance 😩

[gentle iron]

Oh wow only 10-15m? Damn that sounds utter garbage

[mental thunder]

They just wont live long is all, especially after dragon is half dead

I think i ran catherine and acilia on my two teams, so dauntless team with just shag and nimbus got me 40m… without immunity or 3 cleanse they will be deaddo

[mental thunder]

Vortex: errich on accuracy build holding defense down artifact, tonalfan, follie, adolphus, frurbath

[blissful dagger]

garius, quarion, thelendor, martina, kael-something (rare w/ 30% bonus rally dmg)

acilia, clovis, wellby, hegio, gitouna?

[mental thunder]

i'm not going to bother without seeing lightning units.... he has 0 attack down here, so whatever he builds is going to get rekt

[jovial lance]

@mental thunder

[mental thunder]

iola, garius, thelendor, wellby, martina

clovis, shook, hegio, quarion, nessa

second team hopefully nessa and shook reduce ult enough that she doesnt wreck your team when poison is up. too many melee heroes for dps so they going to die fast regardless

[blissful dagger]

clovis has atk down, so it'll surviva since he has acilia.. presumably

while the other one has garius and quarion for def up

i'm able to survive jathalea w/ this line up - kamari, hegio, wellby, alton and catherine

i think garius + def up can do too

[sinful frost]

@mental thunder would the following setup work from your perspective? Garius (Gatekeeper’s) / Acilia (Solar King) / Thelendor (Eye) / Hegio (Hourglass) / Donella (Witch Remain’s)?

[mental thunder]

garius + quarion for def up would be fine ofc with melee dps, but issue is other dude does not have catherine... so he has no second healer besides ichiucatl maybe and enna

so either do 1 team that can score big with quarion and garius or you spread the two out

and second team doodoo team dies fast, maybe gets 7m score with enna + ichiu

clovis, shook, enna, ichiucatl, hegio

garius, iola, thelendor, wellby, quarion

may need to run thelendor with shield artifact to reduce aoe damage from her ult

[jovial lance]

How about errich?

[mental thunder]

for what?

[blissful dagger]

jatha will only do poison on garius, he just has to ulti prior jatha ulti so it wont get boosted and do quarion def up prior ulti

on the other team, he just have to ulti acilia before jathalea ulti and do atk down on clovis

but i do agree that seeing the lightning team will make it easier

[jovial lance]

If i make two teams from radiant and lighting, how about errich?

[sinful frost]

Continental and then later Copper

[mental thunder]

errich needs lightning damage so you can make it work with irina there for attack down

[blissful dagger]

wait.. doesnt shook apply atk down if shield gets removed? or is that recharge pen? i forgot

[jovial lance]

Atk down

[mental thunder]

for continental boss, should be fine with this setup. for dragon you will need to run 2 of these on either candle or incense though... only change. probably acilia candle, hegio incense

[gentle iron]

That's the plan for when it opens in 3 days, my server probably will only have one buff if any at all.
Should I scrap the lightning team and make a rally team of welby evania khalies irina quarion instead?
Can also go poison with any of these instead? I think that lightning\rad team is my weakest one

[sinful frost]

Thx 🙏🏻

[mental thunder]

i think vicuc, adolphus, tonal, errich, felicity will be your best team for poison/fire... exactly the team i used for 40-50m

errich was on witch remains, vicuc high acc enough to land attack down consistently. vicuc on heal book or candle i forget; felicity herself pretty much enough to remove all dragon stacks bc of her crit pushes. must have her high crit%

depending on your gear, could easily do more than my team.

or ditch vicuc there and go oggok to make your best team

[gentle iron]

Yeah the oggok team is not the one I'm worried about as I've played it throughout fey to stage 180, same with necro and radiance, it's the light\rad trash one and ice one that are the weak ones for me

[mental thunder]

there are 3 debuffs in the end; he uses debuffs twice with aoe. first one is the second skill and is the ult charge down... the second one is defense down which is the skill just before he ults; obviously it is critical to avoid the defense down, and i dont think catherine immunity lasts for both. so you have to eat the first one most likely - test the survivability with timing

[gentle iron]

StewGaming pulled 56m with this team on day 1 with all 3 buffs, so I assume he was doing ok even without atk down? Also added his entire squad in the 2nd pic for numbers reference of dmg between the teams, even though my server will be without buffs

[mental thunder]

also i think your dauntless team could either use nathaniel in place of irina for 1 cleanse and some shield/heals if using irina doesnt let you last to 8 minutes

[mental thunder]

but you can get attack down from vicuc remember; i built him high acc since his heals are based on target HP% and debuff removal, so he can afford the stat shift

[gentle iron]

I saw videos and it seems that if timed right you can block both debuffs with catherine. He also notes this in his spreadsheet

[gentle iron]

Yeah sadly I don't have him and I used all my purple dice, will keep pulling but I doubt he'll drop in these 3 days

[mental thunder]

well irina for more damage and extra attack down doesnt hurt

can run her on candlestick too, lets your catherine run heal book

bc shook ult down is sufficient, and he can run witch remains/crown

[gentle iron]

catherine is on my better radiance team

[mental thunder]

oh thats the quarion team

[gentle iron]

in this pic you can see all the teams

[mental thunder]

same difference though, lets him heal more with book instead of being stuck using stack removal arti

irina shields with battle skill i think and has bouncing damage which helps on dragon since multiple targets

so candle on her will be good there + shook and you should have fine stack removal

[gentle iron]

Marked the team that I'm thinking of changing in red, the others are ok by me

[mental thunder]

your server looks relatively easy on scoring; so as long as you are getting 140m+ a day you whould maintain your overall server rank

[gentle iron]

No shot people suddenly throw me off below 20th place if I'm 8th atm?

[mental thunder]

nah, dragon is when you go up in rank not down

[gentle iron]

These are the numbers

[mental thunder]

most people not on here asking for help and are unprepared... if you that high already in rank, the others are going to not bother you

you have to figure, most of those folks got their ranks by being high on vortex the entire time.

but that score is so low compared to what it will end up

dragon is when the score leaps big time

[gentle iron]

That's why I'm worried they'll suddenly pass me and it'll drop me down 12 ranks

Since I don't have many good units I feel

[mental thunder]

trust me if you up there competing for top 10 already, they are in the same boat

[blissful dagger]

i'm quite curious.. do u have frur?

maybe u can do - jatha, dench, eli or jatha, corrin, eli.. then some healer and frur instead of pushing lightning?

[gentle iron]

I wish, I'm missing 16 epics and it's Frur Schaltar Thathylyn that could boost my account

And voresh ofc

Those are the epics I'm missing

Voresh Nimbus Nath Tathlyn Schaltar Frur is all I need haha

[blissful dagger]

horrus maybe? well.. u can always test.. i used one full day finalizing teams before i started saving scores.. lucky it was weekend when dragon started, took me 8hrs+ finalizing team..

[gentle iron]

Horus will do nothing(?) since everything is aoe

Frur+heks could be good if I had him 🥲

[mental thunder]

pure tanks useless in there except to wear ancestral protector gear

best ones to use are those that heal or debuff

ergander, acilia, garius, frurb, isolde, irma

[blissful dagger]

i used horrus bec of atk penalty and lack of tanks and ancestral

[gentle iron]

irma?

[mental thunder]

necro tank, she is amazing

[gentle iron]

Isn't it trash on this boss though?

[mental thunder]

look at her battle skill too

[gentle iron]

oh actually the passive is nice

[mental thunder]

and yeah, damage reduction is huge

plus she can basically remove stacks on her own. ancestral protector set + incense on her

she's perfect for dragon

[gentle iron]

idk seems meh? this boss hits once every 6 seconds so how much will she get out of this? she seems more like a bruiser and also good to defuse the ult stacks of the boss

[mental thunder]

sorry the passive is what i meant

and you can build tanks like her on damage stats but protector set

[gentle iron]

Yeah I thought you meant as in supporting her allies, yeah I get you now, sadly I can't make a 3rd necro team haha

[tepid crescent]

guys, i can selected choose one epic hero, which one? my favorites are vicuc or voresh, still missing one cleaner

[mental thunder]

she can tank for your necro team instead of having eleuia there

who were you planning on removing stacks on necro team?

[gentle iron]

When alone isn't like tier 1 atk down?

[mental thunder]

that's why you bring attack down also 😛

[gentle iron]

Probably voresh I'd say

[mental thunder]

attack down + damage reduction and stack removal

[gentle iron]

Sorry all taken for the good team hehe

[mental thunder]

well look at your summon team again though

you have attack down in ghul which is good, but who is removing your stacks aside from ghul ult stealing?

[tepid crescent]

@gentle iron looks good but i need to know do he know clean debufs like vicuc pls?

[gentle iron]

Ghul does it one battleskill

[mental thunder]

yeah but is 1 stack removal going to be enough for 2 stacks

[gentle iron]

it ticks 5 times

[mental thunder]

must remove them or you will die fast and do less damage

true it does have multiple hits so yeah you right, ghul prob good on his own.

dont even need candle or incense

[gentle iron]

He's my 1st lego, I know him well haha

[mental thunder]

you going to have enough survival on that team though to last 8 min?

[gentle iron]

Him, oggok, zhal, felic

[gentle iron]

Gladros shields are 60k for me

That's a strong team

[mental thunder]

and he steals attack too, so you good

i didnt see him. eyes blurry, it is 8am here lol

[gentle iron]

haha no worries

[mental thunder]

i'd put irma on the frost team in place of usha

[gentle iron]

Also it's on white background which burns eyes lmao

[mental thunder]

irma can just survive the debuffs on her own anyway since she tanky

thia will protect the rest with immunity

can deal without attack down with that setup since irma damage redux

[blissful dagger]

yes, i used tioh, irma, zadok, thia and pargu

[gentle iron]

Can Usha hit 2 targets with her ult on this boss btw? for that sweet 3200% atk?

[mental thunder]

and invis on the ranged units 👌

yeah there are multiple targets

[gentle iron]

Yeah but can Usha hit 2 with her ult hitbox?

[mental thunder]

can test her vs rowena see which scores higher and lasts longer; usha can be tanky with her self shields

[winter heart]

Привет

[gentle iron]

Hoping to get the heal buff at least

[brave sun]

Working on frost team. Using Drizzt, Rava, Megan thia. Is there anyone I should bring with this group. Or change out permanently?

[onyx lintel]

Maybe I should go fire/necro

5 units I'd like to scroll right there lol

[brave sun]

I cant get any Legos nice! Wish I had your problem lol

[flat heart]

any suggestions for radiance/lightning team i wanna prepare for utior bosses?

[mental thunder]

it depends on purpose... if you are looking for a single boss team, depends on the mechanics. for instance vortex vs thelendor chief/otherworld boss vs endgame dragon vs arena... each has specific needs to account for. if you just building some random frost team for progression, rava and drizzt do work nicely together, as does usha in similar role as drizzt as primary dps. gladros is good shields + reducing attack on a boss... meggan for heals. but i dont see any great frost or necro tank here besides elvis and loris. you can build elvis and then go Elvis + drizzt/usha + rava + gladros + meggan and have a decent balanced team.

[brave sun]

Thanks man very helpful. I use Frurbath as tank often or Elvis/ Fitz for tank if needed. I know Frurbath has no affinity bonus but he seem to go very well on a team that lacks heals

[mental thunder]

if you are only worried about a 3 affinity team for just general progression or something like that, you could even run garius + frurb + rava + drizzt + usha/gladros

that covers all heals, keeps your melee alive with debuffs and has high damage output

[brave sun]

I'll try that thanks

[dusk oxide]

Seeking assistance with team building for goblin, tempest, ice and gear dungeons

[keen pivot]

Hi

[onyx lintel]

I would do Garius Iola Ihucaitl Nimbus and Vani

[onyx lintel]

Goblin - Sigrid Dench Voresh FMC and Iola or Garius depending on how bad you need heals

Actually can probably drop Iola for Irina too

[dusk oxide]

no melee unit to gather the goblins?

[mental thunder]

goblin: voresh, sigrid, usha, zharloth, dench
ice dunegon: enna, garius, sigrid, iola, fire MC or wellby
tempest: gareth, sigrid, vicana, heksandra, fire mc
venom: garius, iola, meggan, sigrid, usha*
curse: grover, irina, garius, dubok, iola
rot: garius, iola, enna/quarion, sigrid, dubok
heretical ruins: iola, irina, garius, enna, sigrid
battlefield: heksandra, merideth, voresh, dubok, zharloth maybe?

[dusk oxide]

what do you mean by vicana is melee?

[onyx lintel]

Vicana is not melee and she's v bad without other poison

[mental thunder]

i thought she was melee lol

but who cares just use usha?

there i fixed it for you lol

[solar inlet]

i used vicana with horas s1 and still wasnt impressed

you need other poison legendary appliers i think and even then might skip her

[mental thunder]

if oyu have another lego poison like durango and lothair, you build them your damage and let corrin enable them anyway

vicana is like a 3rd stringer lol

[solar inlet]

ya thats my thought...her advantage is being ranged

[mental thunder]

behind jathalea even, so 4th stringer

[solar inlet]

imo she is similar to Durem and Durem feels WAY better

[pallid saffron]

мдаааа,русских тут нет(

[mental thunder]

https://tenor.com/view/dont-speak-russian-gif-18415516

[onyx lintel]

How is Vicana similar to Durem? Only one she is similar to is Nissa

99% of her dmg comes from her Mark

[solar inlet]

the interaction with burns is the same

[onyx lintel]

No it is not

Durem triggers his passive after burn is expired. Vicana triggers her ult mark when poison is applied

Nissa triggers her ult mark when electrocute is applied

[solar inlet]

Nissa doesnt have a special mark

she applies electoructe all the time on one enemy

[onyx lintel]

Yes she does, her ult does the same thing as Vicana

It functions the exact same way as Vicana but with electrocute

[solar inlet]

im telling you the debuff she puts is the same as SHai'nachtan

its just the electrocute debuff

i use them in goblin

[onyx lintel]

No it's not homie. She puts up a "field" that triggers derivative dmg every time electrocute is applied during the 10s

I have all these units and have tested them

[solar inlet]

i have all of them also

[onyx lintel]

She is literally the lightning equivalent of Vicana

Read her ulti

[solar inlet]

i do think you like to argue....both are a triggered blast was my point. Them having slight fundamantal differences doesnt matter

My only point was vicana vs any of those other blast triggerring units feels bad

Arselan did a whole video on Vicana last season because he thought after they buffed her she would carry. He couldnt get her to work better than other options

[onyx lintel]

No she doesn't work as good as Lothair or even as good as other poison builds but my point is that she does work

She's burst dmg and if you use her with Durango and Shink for instance, she does a LOT of burst dmg

Same as Nissa, if you use her with Schai and Manda, she does a lot of burst dmg

Nissa doesn't pair well with Perkunte and people don't realize that

[solar inlet]

So when I pulled her, her kit read like she was going to just be a monster, and I wasted a lot of effort S1 on her. I do not think she is worth building unless you are starving for poison units.

With Nissa, her largest issue to me is that she targets really terribly on auto

[jade egret]

Who's the best non-legendary Frost "enabler"?
I've heard Dorkuraz, Rava, and Usha floated around as good choices, but are any of the others worth using at all? (Vidimir, Wilt, Vojeh)

[onyx lintel]

Both of them are meant for ST or like.... Copper dragon

Rava is best for aoe, Olgan best for ST

Rava Dorkz and Vidimir is a great gob team

[solar inlet]

Rava is just really nice for a lot of places if i was choosing

[jade egret]

I have Drizzt and Rowena and was looking to do a frost team, but they both seem like they need a frost "setup" character to work well

[solar inlet]

Drizzt can do his own frost i think

[sullen viper]

Should I do bleddyn , beldelle and zorak or replace zorak for gerthin? For vortrex and single target bosses?

[solar inlet]

def run Zhorak

[sullen viper]

Thanks accidentally fully scrolled gerthin lol

[jade egret]

He does, but it's only a 50% chance, so I presume having a more consistent frost enabler will be a lot more damage overall, correct?

[solar inlet]

I will be honest I havent used him a lot but yes likely

in arena his self proc is enough for him and trolgar for me

[jade egret]

I will be building the team for general-purpose, but if I wanted to do a triple-frost team, would Rava be the best "swiss army knife" choice as the third?
I know there's probably more optimization to be done to tailor to specific content, but I'm trying to go for "this clears the most content without changing guys around" at the moment until I have more resources to work with.

[solar inlet]

you will find the specific content will lead everything...general content tends to be clearable by most teams eventually

even element specific content like tower will require very specific things

like using two units that DPS and need frost, 1 frost enabler, leaves you with only two spots

[mental thunder]

usha and drizzt are both melee remember.... if you arent keeping them alive, they are going to die fast. means you need significant healing, attack down debuff for all enemies, a tank that can hold them all and potentially add utility like damage reduction or a debuff or healing... irma comes to mind.

not as simple as "i want 3 frost dps" when frost/necro has really poo accessibility to attack down aoe and healing in general... i'd use 1 of those listed melee dps and then a ranged enabler like rava, healer, debuffer and tank

you bring usha and drizzt together without irma and enough healing and debuffs and you arent going very far

[onyx lintel]

Use Bleddyn instead of Gerthin

[solar inlet]

The new filters are so nice. I didnt realize Clovis has atk down2 100% on his ult wihtout skillup. Been struggling on Curse but i think I can do 5 man with him np. Garius, Clovis, Beldelle, Shinnah, Voresh

5man being 5 ele affinity

[empty flame]

Can someone help me with my vortex team? I'm struggling to hit 4m on vortex II, but I think I have the units to do better I just don't know how

[solar inlet]

It is really about gear and skill timing but I would drop Theodore at some point

He is never going to be good with his atk down 2 only being 75% if skilled

[empty flame]

Drop Theodore for who? Irina? She has atk down 2 100%

[solar inlet]

you shouldnt need more atk down you need damage....holas can be used here and in goblin

[jade egret]

My other DPS unit was Rowena, who I believe is ranged, correct?
But my thought process (for now) was to run with non-Frost/Necro tank/healer until Affinity 5 is needed (or content requires all the same affinity).

I.e. something like Drizzt/Rowena/Rava for DPS and Fru/Heks for tanking and healing. This at least gets me Affinity 3 for my DPS.

Would something like this work for the majority of content until I get more resources to max/skill up other support units of the same affinity?

[empty flame]

Holas = Horace, yeah? I know some characters got name changes recently, just making sure I'm right that he's one of them

[solar inlet]

ya thats him aoe poisoner

helps enable sigrid also

[empty flame]

Okay, I'll try him, thanks

[mental thunder]

i'd rather drop the melee dps for iola if you dont care about affinity 5, bring meggan over heks and you keep affinity 3 for your ranged dps frosts

because iola's native silence/stun/attack down aoe is going to be huge and allow you to put a damage artifact on rava too, since iola can handle the defense down arti

[jade egret]

Isn't the only melee dps in my comp above Drizzt?
Rowena and Rava are both ranged, right?

So you're saying to use Iola support, Rowena/Rava DPS, Meggan for affinity and Fru tank?

I mean, that sounds good, but I guess I should have specified - I wanted to build around Drizzt specifically lol. He's my only legendary rn.
Unless he's not worth using?

[mental thunder]

ok so you forcing something doomed to fail then

[jade egret]

Fair I guess. Is there a preferred comp for Drizzt that uses different units?
I thought he would synergize best with other Frost characters but I guess I'm mistaken?

or is he just bad

[mental thunder]

have you read up on drizzt to understand how he works and the challenges?

it isnt that he's bad it is that he's challenging

he's excellent in arena, but in pve the fact you have a panther that dies easily to single target and once dead doesnt come back..... and nerfs your dps output?

plus he's a melee so he is squishy and dies faster than a ranged dps; layers of challenges

[onyx lintel]

Zeffi is legit a trump card at Vortex. Use Zeffi Garius Shagrol Thurnus and Nimbus

You can probably drop Thurnus for Iola

[jade egret]

ok fair enough. so you'd have to focus on something that prioritizes buffing up your frontline defense to use him properly?
I haven't used many melee characters yet, but also tbf I'm probably not at the level of content where they need addtional protection yet either.

[mental thunder]

that's why i mentioned tank like irma since she adds damage reduction from her ult

frurb can help with the healing over time too

which is fine, and he attack down debuffs which is also good

[jade egret]

yeah fru was going to be part of my comp regardless

[mental thunder]

so that takes the edge off a little; bring healer will also help which is meggan

the two of them together good heals should suffice to keep team alive

[jade egret]

I do have Meggan, which is nice

[mental thunder]

iola if oyu have her will help control enemies by stunning them, also attack down in a big aoe and deals good damage

so that leaves rava as a frost enabler - and you can always ditch drizzt and go rowena back row and leave frurb alone up front

[jade egret]

makes sense. I'll play it by ear - once content gets hard enough that I notice melee units getting melted, I can shift my guys around a bit

[solar inlet]

So happy I made that change. 0 risk team now

im sure 9 is fine they didnt even lose 1/4 life ever

[onyx lintel]

Setting up for Continental challenge s2, basically have 3 teams built but wondering if anyone here has other ideas...? Pretty much have all the epics and rares too... other than Voresh and Tonalnan 😦

Might try a burn team I guess

[solar inlet]

I havent looked at the bosses much yet...what does the fire boss do? If you can keep people mainly out of the damage and have a tank focus + 1 DPS burn could be really good. IF that is the case take a look at that rare burn goblin...he can make massive stacks

[onyx lintel]

Fire boss is Irzillas so he does summons

Thinking Journ Adolphus Karf Durem and maybe another support

Or maybe another burn like Araces

[solar inlet]

Ahh ya missed you have Karf...no need for that goblin he is the f2p version

Araces will be nice because he will speed up your damage if it can be survivable

speed up vs boss damage stacks

[empty flame]

Oof, that's 4 people I've not touched at all. Is it worth investing in all of them for other content, or vortex only?

I know you eventually need a team for all 6 elements, so if they're useful for that I've got no problem investing, just means I need to do more goblin runs...a lot more

[mental thunder]

zeffi is kind of amazing so yeah invest in her at least. garius yes, shagrol also good in pvp... nimbus for single target dauntless team yes

idk why you would not have touched garius, arguably the best tank in the game lol

[solar inlet]

ya Garius trivializes a lot of content

[empty flame]

Garius is the only one I have touched, it's the other 4 I haven't. Garius is my MVP

[onyx lintel]

zeffi is truly an account changing unit mate, build him

All of us here wish we had him lol

[mental thunder]

her

its a grandma 😛 gramma rat

and i sure wish, real nice support

[empty flame]

Lol, noted. The tier list made Zeffi seem really mediocre so I stayed focused on my team I already had

[mental thunder]

tier list...... that phrase is so bad in dragonheir

idk where you were looking but any tier list ive seen to date is terrible

case and point: saying zeffi is mediocre

i'd delete that bookmark asap lol

[empty flame]

fair enough

[mental thunder]

what makes DH so nice is that there is no one size fits all setup - you gotta use what you have and there are several options to do that

there are some units that might do more than others but when you have teams that fill all roles/needs, many units that seem like they wouldnt be perfect will do just fine or even shine

[mental thunder]

wrong channel

#🆘┆customer-service go

[atomic briar]

Can i make a 22m team with therendor with this roster?

[mental thunder]

easily 2 of them. irma, gardrus, ghulende, zharloth, questa = 1
ripelkas, thia, zadok, gaiolere, premtsa.... or ditch gaiolere and bring tioh if you want attack bonus

and put rip on troll set with high accuracy

[atomic briar]

Tu

Ty

[onyx lintel]

Deverick instead of Questa no?

[glacial bane]

Who is the 2nd best Tank for Dungeons / Vortex in the Radiant/Ice affinity after Garius (Epix or lower)? Dont have Garius and need replacement.

[onyx lintel]

Duling is a good tank, just less overall team utility

[glacial bane]

I was thinking of Clovis: DEF Aura, 10% DEF Passive, DEF UP Buff on BS and Attack Penalty II Ultimate. Seems like a decent tanking skill set.

[mental thunder]

she's offheals more than the attack down but can do both

[mental thunder]

but sure can do that too

[visual storm]

I have a question but it's a long one and the answer would likely be muddled in here could some one help me put on pm so I can be 1 and done on the topic

Basically trying to finalize my 6 teams and maximize chaos boss dmg with maybe a 7th and 8th

I'm top 50 currently I'd love to push for top 20 but I know I'll miss atleast 2 days so really just need help sustaining for end of season

Hoping for a few 22mil teams and a couple 7s and then my best option for the 6 team dragon

Any one wanna take that one on ?

[mental thunder]

chaos dragon boss? you can only do 6 attacks

[visual storm]

For the bosses I mean technically you could do 12 of them a day yeah ?

If nit then yeah need my 6 best teams options

Won't be rolling many more dice this season

[mental thunder]

That is otherworld not chaos dragon

[visual storm]

Yeah sry I'm talking otherworld and then the boss that follows it

[mental thunder]

Twitch, eli, corrin, vicuc, frurbath = one poison damage team

isolde, adolphus, rhash, errich, eches = one fire damage team

Irma, ghul, zharloth, adrie, gadros = 1 dark damage team

Eurion, questa, meggan, zadok, gaiollere = second dark damage

Nimbus, schaltar, ivellios, iola, garius = one lightning damage team

Acilia, lorentheel, philto, shook, wellby = one light damage team

Felosia, hvitar, usha, rowena, elvis = one ice damage team (prob gonna get stun locked and die and do nothing)

@visual storm there are 7 teams

Idk if they will get 22m each, that depends on your gear and positioning and luck

[visual storm]

Sweet ty much I'll work with them and see what happens

Yeah my ice team is aweful I hate that boss

[cinder seal]

👍

[scenic sage]

Is there a max # of poison stacks you can apply? / have active on an enemy at one time

[mental thunder]

40

[onyx lintel]

Copper dragon has unique mechanics each team should have either a cleanser or an immune buff and a unit that applies a lot of ult up/down (incense works)

[mental thunder]

yeah it is totally not a "just use my otherworld teams for it" situation lol

[visual storm]

Damn then what do yall think would be my best options for each ? Do I realistically have the time to lvl heros for both

[dry storm]

Need some advice against what lineup to use against this Fey Meander 154 enemy group. Either my back line get sniped by Questa, or I’m too defensive to kill anything.

I think I need to use a lot of AOE bc of the summons and maybe more CC?

And build my CC beefier so questa doesn’t target them?

[ornate zenith]

Hi everyone, looking to improve my chief challenge teams for S1. Any recs for team comp and builds would be appreciated! Thanks!

[chrome marsh]

Just pulled Reytah and her kit seems pretty nice. Where does she shine?

[dark pike]

Not exactly a lineup question, but once you’ve pulled a few legendaries and solid epics to make a couple good teams, is it best to use wyrmarrow to continue summoning? Or use for skill scrolls? If skills, epic scrolls or legendary scrolls?

[chrome marsh]

Could I get help with a good ice/necro team (I have all the rares not shown)? Thanks!

[visual storm]

Who would you use for otherworld ? And @mental thunder was that a dragon or otherworldly line up?

[half ridge]

u need legendary scrolls, i like to have at least 8-9 before i start opening more dice

[half ridge]

for which activity

[chrome marsh]

@half ridge for Trials, sorry

[half ridge]

hvitar, vinyara, dallbam, drizzt ( put acc to apply frost ) and either thia if u need more backline heals or meggan for full board less heals

[earnest forge]

Can i please get help on which team to build for goblin lair? Im stuck at goblin 2-3 (1 star) and can’t progress to teenebria

This is s1 btw

[ornate zenith]

Voresh with crown, Sigrid, auster, and Dane w horris to tank and group the adds togethers

[earnest forge]

Thanks for your input. Just a follow up question, by crown do you mean crown of the unclean? Will the debuff only apply to one goblin? Is it worth it?

[ornate zenith]

Yeah but voresh will place other debuff on all the goblins, which allows sigrid to hit all of them with her ult

[onyx lintel]

That's not how crown works homie

[earnest forge]

Oh okay. On another note, if it says a debuff applies a 100% chance, will accuracy still matter?

[onyx lintel]

Your best gob teams are either your 3 summoners + Voresh and Thia OR Usha Auster Dorkuraz Voresh and Thia

Yes accuracy matters the % chance is just the base chance for the debuff to trigger, whether or not it lands depends on your acc vs target resist

[earnest forge]

Got this. Thanks so much!

[onyx lintel]

Personally I would do Usha Auster Dorkuraz because it's gonna be useful in a lot of areas

If you get Rava you can replace Dorkuraz

[earnest forge]

Noted. Btw, how is thia viable in goblin lair?

[onyx lintel]

Thia is your sustain

[earnest forge]

Ohh good point

[onyx lintel]

Can also do Meggan but Thia more dmg = faster clear

If you wanna do a 3 affin then you can do Adolphus Dane Sigrid Voresh and Iola

[earnest forge]

What about vasska and his passive?

[onyx lintel]

Only heals himself

[earnest forge]

Oh that’s crap lol

I focused my affinity points on ice/necrosis so i think building a team on that works better for me.

Thanks again. Appreciate your insight. Have a good one @onyx lintel

[onyx lintel]

That frost team will get you 3-3 max

[wide jasper]

Auster, usha, Dorkuraz, Voresh, Sigrid. You don’t need sustain, usha shields + voresh heals should be more than enough for goblin

[earnest forge]

I tried premsta instead of thia but i think this works better too. Thanks!

[visual storm]

Fire team broke 27 mil on otherworldly chief 🙂 now I need to find a poison and radiant that can match 🙂

[distant wyvern]

Congrats! What team did you use?

[jagged goblet]

S1, seeking Vortex team help to boost my damage.
Currently running Furb | Tona | Sig | Adol | Errich
I've heard replacing Sig is the way to go, but I will miss the extra attk dwn 😦
My options are Rhash, Alfie, Follie, Zadie (dark horse for uli reduction), and Eli.
Have decent poisoners too, but my research suggests the fire team is where it's at. Thnx in advance.

[polar aurora]

legendary scrolls > heliolite dice

[onyx lintel]

Replace sig with Rhash. Nevah has a vid in yt of that exact team pulling 25m

[empty flame]

Okay, so I just got Errich from story. I have Rhash and Alfie, I understand the 3 of them are pretty much all you need for a starter wild team. Is that correct? If so, is Alfie worth scrolls? I don't really have any other epics specifically competing for them atm, so it's not like I'd immediately miss the ones it takes to cap him out, I just don't want to waste them if he isn't worth the investment

[visual storm]

Erik, rhash, tun, Adolphus and krysos

[visual storm]

That's my team I pull 22 to 27 regularly all are scrolled

[tough arch]

anyone down to take a look at my gobs 3 lineup? im stuck on the first tier and not sure what im doing wrong

[onyx lintel]

Sure send roster

[tough arch]

i get so close to clearing the third tier, but i keep missing by 2-3 seconds even with food

i used this lineup based on a tutorial, but i also have usha and auster and i heard they work well together @onyx lintel

[onyx lintel]

Post a screenshot of your roster man, all of your heroes

[gentle iron]

I just pulled Tathlyn, is there any mix and matching I can make here to make BOTH teams 22m dmg? atm only the team where garius is present can hit 22m, regardless of what dps he has with him

[onyx lintel]

I will suggest based on that

[tough arch]

gotcha, one sec

[gentle iron]

You don't need Horus there, see if you have a better melee hero that can be tanky and deal damage

[tough arch]

i have tonalnan, usha, and martina leveled. would any of those be better?

[gentle iron]

My team is usha rava sigrid zhalroth and traveler fire

can you post a screenshot of your units?

dench sucks imo

[tough arch]

ouuu i might try this, what artifact do you have on usha and zhar?

[gentle iron]

you got them both? ez pz then

[tough arch]

yea i hate dench lowkey but a few people told me to use him

[gentle iron]

instead of rava put anyone that can apply debuffs

[tough arch]

yea one sec these photos are taking forever to send

[wide jasper]

Team is fine, just level eyeball to 20 and you’ll cover the extra 2-3 secs

[gentle iron]

Who needs a tank in goblins? not only that, horus is so bad cause he'll sit there stuck when the whole team will run forward

[tough arch]

thats why you turn off his ultimate 😉

[wide jasper]

Turn his ult off, Sigrid does more than enough damage for the entire team

You just need him to group the goblins for the aoe debuffs from the other units

[tough arch]

exactly. ive replaced him with usha before and she did about the same amount of damage

[wide jasper]

Sure you can use other units or legendaries but he’s just missing 2-3 secs, obviously it’s working for him

[gentle iron]

Then why even bring him in and not someone who can actually do damage?

[tough arch]

cause my 5 affinity is leveled higher with fire/poison

[gentle iron]

idk how that's even possible lol

[tough arch]

i think replacing him lowers my affinity bonuses, and it kind of levels out

[gentle iron]

I cleared goblins 333 first on my server with the comp I told you, without 5 man affinity

[gentle iron]

Did you kick out dench for zhalroth?

Give zhal enough accuracy to proc his battleskill debuff

[tough arch]

testing a run with zhar and auster instead of dench and mc fire

that took enough time lol, read me to filth

[gentle iron]

Bro you got auster? lmao

Why even use dench letalis then haha

[tough arch]

yea i just leveled him! havent really gotten to use him yet

[gentle iron]

Do you run on auto or manual btw?

[tough arch]

im still falling short with this replacement ugh

[tough arch]

usually auto

[wide jasper]

Honestly I’d farm better equipment over trying to 3star goblin

[gentle iron]

what stage?
here's a video I made back then to my alliance back when I had to manual it to clear 333 before everyone, this was after I've been clearing it for a while
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Djc4a7rzn6U

[gentle iron]

is he 332?

[tough arch]

yea i just did a bunch of farming, but now i dont have enough $ to upgrade anything lmao

[tough arch]

brooooo youre a g

[tough arch]

what artifact did you use for rava and zhar if you dont mind me asking?

[wide jasper]

That or 232, I’m hoping it’s the former

[sullen viper]

So I see some line up in pvp. how is it possible that some level 18 adventure got purple gear while it not unlocked until level 21?

[tough arch]

i could be wrong, but it could just be from them not doing the daily commissions. i know players that disregard those and solely run dungeons

[gentle iron]

Maybe you're ranked high and see other servers?

[sullen viper]

I'm currenlty 43 but dont all S2 have same restrictions? just curious lol

for example

[tough arch]

mmm not sure about S2, but i do know a few players that have crazy gear but are not a high level bc they dont do commissions or play the story line

good chance they could also just be whales too

[sullen viper]

I think they might be from people who still in S1 server. This is the requirement to unlock purple gear crafting and you have to be journey level 21. Thanks for the feedbacks

[latent isle]

S1 rot help

[severe cedar]

Hello guys, i need some help to make comp to do 23M on Dragon Finally boss please!

I did 70M with two comps and now i need to make 04 More please

I did with:
Vicuc, Frubrah, Tonalnan, Errich, Follie

Tharivol, Sutha, Nathaniel, Iola, Shagrol

I need 04 more comps please help me.

[mental thunder]

Rather than you being confused by bros who dont actually know things… it is because they farmed it, not crafted it. You can farm venom earlier than the crafting bench opens for epics

It means they are whalelords who do not actually care about wasting stamina on nonsense that early

[lime wasp]

I see 0 TM inc/dec... Do Irma as tank. Hvitar + Hochadir + Drizzt(WR) as DPS and Meggan as healer. Should be sufficient

Questa, Thia and Adrie can make a good one too. Thia at 17.5s rotation to get enough healing + immunity (after 50% threshold)

Add Vidimir and Rowena (manage timings!!) And that's plenty too. Can sub Dorkuraz for Vidimir

The 2nd team needs a manual hand though, as too much TM decrease can wreck a run

[blissful dagger]

i had the following line ups during s1 :

zadok, sharlach, premtsa, utior, zharloth.. maybe w/ irzillas u can do more

maybe u can try..

meggan, usha, vidimir, dorkuraz, thia?

hochadir, drizzt, hvitar, irma, voresh?

garius, catherine, hegio, tathlyn, wellby? check if u need donella

[severe cedar]

Thanks guys i will try it

[severe cedar]

i tried but not looks like solid 😦 i didnt 23M x.x

[lime wasp]

Is the boss at 30 or 35sec rotation for you?

If it's 30, you're doing something wrong

Also: Who's carrying WR?
I see that Hvitar is slightly further on TM than Voresh
You're actually auto'ing, without timing, with Hvitar faster than Voresh?

[severe cedar]

Do I need to put time into skills for everyone? Voresh has precision equipment to carry out reduction II with artifact.
I don't know what I'm doing wrong.
There is no one dissipating on this team.

[lime wasp]

You're at the end of season. I expected you already did timings on everyone, all the time 🙈

It makes content faster, less work, easier... And all of them combined

[onyx lintel]

Timings make or break your end boss scores

[mental thunder]

https://tenor.com/view/put-your-thinking-cap-on-neil-degrasse-tyson-startalk-think-about-this-think-about-it-gif-22196950

[delicate oak]

Can I get help with a Vortex lineup please? I haven't started leveling any Lightening/Radiance toons yet.

[mental thunder]

you are missing tonalfan and frurbath for a good poison-wild team

and frost kinda sucks in vortex

so lets see those lightning/radiance heroes 🫣

[fair wing]

Is there anyone using rally team? Any suggestion for team comp i got hegio, alvis, martina

My lvl journey is 18

[mental thunder]

lol silly rabbit, people have been playing this game for 100+ days, ofc there are those who have played rally teams, we are done an entire season

but that team is not going to be great

[fair wing]

Sorry newbie here just played 3 days ago

[mental thunder]

people typically reference alton and lorentheel legendary heroes as must haves or you dont go rally

and that includes legendary rally damage dealers too

which means if you just using hegio, martina and wellby as dps and you dont have alton or loren, it kind of is a dead end

and to focus your resources elsewhere

rally is one of the hardest to build teams for nonspenders

[fair wing]

Wait I'll get a screenshot of my heroes

[mental thunder]

wild is probably the easiest since you get free legendary errich

[fair wing]

Any suggestions what team comp should focus on?

[mental thunder]

lol you did it the really hard way

go to your hero menu, click at the top you see the little helmet figure filter button

that expands your hero list; then click the dropdown and you can see the 3 affinities at the bottom - just click one, screenshot; click second one, screenshot, etc. 3 screenshots and will show all 3 affinities together

lightning/radiance, poison/fire, necro/frost

[visual storm]

I have the heros for a rally team now and still find my wild team outperforms but it's likely scrolls holding me back

[mental thunder]

using thelendor lego dps exclusive with no alton or lorentheel i managed barely 25m on vortex IV last season

thats bad

[fair wing]

Sorry newbie here, my luck is bad I can't pull wild teams

[mental thunder]

well let me help you with this first off: #1180150041730617344 that's my new player guide, should help

as for just a general team to use.... irina, dubok, fire main character, heksandra, horrus/dallbam

that gives you attack down II, shields, tank, heals, damage

should help you progress story at least. goblin team you can go eli, dench, irina, fire MC, martina for now

obviously you are missing some pieces so just work with what you have and summon more heroes

[onyx lintel]

Irma Meggan Voresh Rava Usha

[delicate oak]

Tried to warn you ahead of time.

[onyx lintel]

Use the team I suggested

[mental thunder]

yeah there really isnt much better this early with so few heroes

frost/necro team bcf suggested prob get you through to vortex III but then you'll need some attack down from somewhere like a gladros in place of someone

which leaves you with very little dps so low scoring lol

[fair wing]

Newbie mistakes T_T shouldn't use the epic box for alvis

I knew it i should have gone with another poison T_T

[severe cedar]

Can someone tel me about timming of skill 04 and 05 of Dragon? for my utior give me ressur

[ripe fern]

6087

[mental thunder]

no, you would have failed doing that unless it was frurbath lol

there are only 4 heroes worth taking with that epic selector - adolphus, voresh, frurbath, garius

and i always tell people to wait for like 2 weeks to pick to see what else you get early on

rare box needs to always be either usha or sigrid; wait to get one then use box on other

[wide jasper]

Best team atm would be horrus, Adolphus, Sigrid, heksandra, and then a dps (traveler, Horace, letalis, or drizzt). This is probably the best for now while you build up the others people mentioned

[mental thunder]

i'm pretty sure that frost dps going to do better than this atrocity though

[wide jasper]

Not without some serious investment, doubt he can level all those heroes you mentioned today

[mental thunder]

well he doesnt have them leveled because he's making serious investment mistakes then

[wide jasper]

Ok and the team I listed are heroes he has built

[mental thunder]

if you at team with 100s already and NOW asking for vortex team? oof

vortex been open a lot longer than today for him is the issue

if you have 100 level units, so just use what you got and build a better team asap

[wide jasper]

Ok but that doesn’t mean he can’t use what I posted while working up to what you advised. It’s not mutually exclusive

[mental thunder]

yeah sure he can, it is just a shame that's all he has

[oblique bay]

Hola

[mental thunder]

irma, gladros, meggan, voresh, drizzt all 90+ though, can use that

might last longer and score higher than sigrid team

[wide jasper]

Well you should have mentioned that instead of a couple level 1s

[mental thunder]

its in his screenshots 🤷‍♂️

all he needs is tonal and he's actually got a decent wild team

could cobble together alfie + adolphus + errich + horrus + heks but bleh horrus in vortex

if that was frurb wouldnt be bad, could drop heks for thea or something

[wide jasper]

You work with what you have, I’m not a fan of horrus either

[delicate oak]

I have Irma, Gladius, Megan, Voresh, and Drizzt all 5 starred. I had just switched focus to my Goblin team to get the 3-2 done 20 times. Just cleared Vortex 2 last night using MC, Adolphus, Sigrid, Keksandra, and Horrus. Will have my first attempt at Vortex 3 tonight and was wondering if I could be doing better, because I am prone to making a lot of bad decisions...lol. Need to farm a lot of gear to get those god rolls. Thanks for all the input @mental thunder @wide jasper @onyx lintel

[onyx hound]

Hey there new player here. Spent a few bucks and was wondering who I should invest in and if I have a decent team for anything? Just finished chapter 1 in the story aswell

[mental thunder]

#1180150041730617344 first off to give yourself some knowledge boost

[onyx hound]

This is great thanks, will give it a read now!

[mental thunder]

green team: general progression and for completing ice or tempest domain
yellow team: general progression and for completing flame domain (early on, might need to change nathaniel for enna later on for cleanse but maybe not)
blue team: general progression or alternate to yellow team (dont level 3 teams this early, that would be silly and spread you thin on resources)

red team: goblins. later on when you have tankier gear maybe swap out garius for usha

i would not scroll vidimir yet, wait for rava and usha to decide what to build for frost damage. auster is fantastic though

also later on when you defeat purple dragon and get errich (Free wild legendary), you'll have 2/3 wild dps for a nice vortex setup. for now, just use green team for vortex, potentiall swap out fire main character for rhash in vortex

[onyx hound]

You're the best! Thank you very much for your game knowledge. Appreciate the guide aswell. It's really thought out. Cheers brother!

[mental thunder]

anytime, good luck

[tepid locust]

Ada yg jual akun kah / starteran disini ??

[polar aurora]

Any Auster lineup guys ?

[mental thunder]

well you need cleanse for anyone who is being hit up front or auster going to shred

so either bring vicuc or bring super high resist heks and put her close ish to the tank so she is removing only tank's frost

then spread out everyone else so they dont get targeted

[latent isle]

Should i buy scrolls to max nastjenka or save for dices?

[polar aurora]

I can do that but Heksandra is squishy af

[latent isle]

Only 1 dps 💀

Show me your wilds

And poison

[latent isle]

Phollia dps

Use both her and errich

[mental thunder]

lol follie

phollia? weird.

[latent isle]

Fcuk you, im bad at names lmao

[mental thunder]

haha

[latent isle]

Still dont have garius btw

Blew everything on tharivol garius banner. 2 dupes and 0 garius

[atomic briar]

@mental thunder currently building this team out for errich continentsl. Just pulled zeffi tho- you think he would be better than quarion?

[mental thunder]

absolutely lol

honestly why not replace catherine instead of quarion

you can alternate zeffi invincible and quarion heal + defense buff

caterine immunity does nothing vs errich

[half ridge]

you can pretty much invicible thru his 2nd last and last skill completely then heal right after for first

[atomic briar]

Wordd

That makes sense actuallly

[polar aurora]

Zeffi instead of Catherine

[solar inlet]

Catherine is really nice for debuff immunity

[uncut skiff]

Hi. I’ve been playing 2 weeks. Now I would ask for help on what heroes to aim on. Because of late leveling is gonna get much longer. Thanks for any answer.

[visual storm]

Which sets beat for taunulan for vortex ?

Best^

[wide jasper]

Gambler with 80% crit

[visual storm]

Preferred artifact ?

[mental thunder]

horseshoe most likely

[polar aurora]

What can be my pillar team ?

[harsh blade]

[polar aurora]

pls

help me

[polar aurora]

@finite turtle

[solar inlet]

they really need to give us some better non legendary Necrosis units

more i should say

i ran away from necrosis season 1

[finite turtle]

giff stun sets to the cow and voresh

[onyx lintel]

Torrin Voresh Irma Deverick and prolly Questa

If not Questa then Gardrus

[polar aurora]

what team did you use ?

[onyx lintel]

Elvis Zarloth Deverick Thia and I forget who

Maybe Questa

I didn't have Irma or Voresh

[twin pilot]

should i get gatekeepers staff or hourglass first?

[polar aurora]

witches remains

[onyx lintel]

Is this enough yet

[unkempt basalt]

Hey all, i just got the ability to do pillars. So im looking into what would be good for my 3 teams so I have direction on who to build? Any and all advice appreciated.

Also, any comments on good line ups for vortex, domains and goblins also appreciated.

[quasi garden]

Hello with my server’s lvl reset ending tmr, I’m looking to focus my team on a vortex comp (Season 2 recently). Just wondering what’s the best option for me with all I have atm. These are all my legendary and epic (I have all rares so didn’t bother taking a pic of it)

Also cuz radiant damage is ending soon and I’m not sure what comes next. Thanks for the help in advance!!

[mental thunder]

Pillars are about cheesing the adds with stun sets, and the bosses are about survival with enough damage to win in the time allotted… there will be no single pillar team but a mix of heroes you will use to get through different challenges.

Example team: irina, nimbus, ichiucatl, martina, volthug… irina needs a stun set. I dont think that team will get you past 20 though.

Rava, gadros, voresh, questa, elvis… i dont see meggan as a healer so questa and voresh all you got for frost = not going far.

Dubok, heksandra, horrus, sigrid, theodore maybe… your best team of the 3 but still not great.

I dont see any of them getting past 20-30 even in lego gear. You going to have to keep summoning.

As for goblins: voresh, usha, rava, irina, sigrid. Usha just needs to be tanky and wear bracelet artifact

[mental thunder]

Oof you have lorentheel but not great rally damage. That makes me sad… i have thelendor but no lorentheel.

I would say your best team in general going to be zeffi, iola, ivellios, nimbus, volthug/gareth maybe? If you had frurbath youd be set…

Isolde, 2 burn epics, heksandra, burn goblin rare dude maybe? Would rather have adolphus or vicuc than heksandra… no tonalfan, no wild.

Sagomir, 3 ice blast epics, catherine?

If you had frurbath, adolphus, tonalfan or garius there are several teams id rather make lol

[latent isle]

Best leggo arti for nastjenka if u dont have her ex?

@mental thunder

[mental thunder]

Probably wine cup or horseshoe

Oh lego arti? Idk im not a whale…

[latent isle]

But you are, need to start to live with the truth brother

[mental thunder]

Probably thunder spear since its the only one that makes sense?

Since it gives crit damage better than horseshoe and the effect makes sense for dauntless that attack fast

🤷‍♂️ anyone who has gatekeepers, witch remains and hourglass and can start buying elemental damage legos is beyond my whale capacity

[latent isle]

Dont forget horn, blast jar, auric vest

But tbf the lamp doesnt look bad either since it gives total of 30% more attacks. With all buffs my nast has like 0,6 attck speed

Wait, her ult only lasts 10 sec

Would only have like 4 sec windows for other dauntlesses to take advantage of higher dmg feathers.

But she gets to enjoy like 9 secs of dmg boosts

Double attack every 2 secs only means more procs for ivelos

[mental thunder]

Which means lots of damage 🤷‍♂️

[latent isle]

Fund me another thunder dupe, ill test

[blissful dagger]

for leggo arti on nat..

you can go w/ burst based on luck w/ that collar.. the abyss thingy that boosts crt dmg for each one surrounding you, its really good on the first part that will make ur battle skill proc, especially if u have high atk and high crt dmg, and awesome placement you might be able to kill one

on lamp, i think that's the most consistent one since it'll boost ur dmg and.. again consistency is its main goal

the spear is good, especially if you have enablers like schaltar or ivellios.. but, its chance.. so its not consistent

this is pvp based im talkin about tho..

if its for raid bosses, assuming you have others who can equip witches, then tharivol gets lamp, fan goes to ivellios, ink on schaltar and spear on nat.. that's how i would maximize the dmg out for the team

y spear on nat for bosses? well, this is in the assumptions of prolonged boss fights, hence more chance procs for the enablers

[latent isle]

Thanks man

[dull island]

hello, i need some tips on a better gob team, currently stuck at 3-1 with frur/fmc/sig/vorresh/irina. TIA

[latent isle]

Run 1 tank 4 aoe dps

Dench is good

[mental thunder]

That does sound like a poop team… voresh, sig, usha, rava, rowena/irina/iola would do way better

[latent isle]

Swap sig for dokuras for 5 affinity

[twin pilot]

ah alread y have witchers remains

[twin pilot]

hello! has been awhile, finally got another dupe, should i get gatekeepers staff or hourglass first?

[mental thunder]

tough choice. if you have garius i want to say gatekeepers will give you more mileage. if you are using a poison derivative lego like lothair or durango...... hourglass for corrin is really nice

[twin pilot]

dont have neither hahaha

sec let me ss my units

mainly runing a fire poison

[celest scarab]

Boa Tarde força

[hot adder]

ㅋ

[mental thunder]

ehhh no real compelling reason to pick up either. hourglass on iola is nice for fey and pillar

gatekeeper on adolphus is strange and awesome

[twin pilot]

right then should i just use it for rippekas

i got a dupe of him

[mental thunder]

you could use hourglass on a lot of debuffers sure, witch remains > hourglass/gatekeeper... and without some of the key units, gatekeeper isnt going to help you. hourglass will. there is also Horn to consider

[twin pilot]

yeah already have a witch's remain

also need to make another team could you suggest one

there's also deverick below for

just for pvp i guess and for story.

im mostly 9 and 8s for dungeons for now. so gooing back to progressing through story.

[mental thunder]

adolphus, khrysos, tonalfan, errich, frurbath/rhash... if you dont need frurb healing because of shield overlap from adolphus, you can go rhash for more dps. errich you put on accuracy set and witch remains. really nice vortex and ow/dragon boss team.

eurion, rava, ripelkas, meggan, rowena... or drop rava, add voresh, drop rowena, add questa or gadros or some other dark or nonfrost ice dps. i think frost with rava/rowena would be strong. ripelkas can hold witch remains so rava can focus more dps

no garius, i wouldnt build a dauntless or rally team though... sad. could go clovis, alton, philto, iola, quarion/nathaniel/ichiucatl though. not a horrible team.

[twin pilot]

ok thank you!
ooo was looking for a vortex team too

what arti for tonalfan

[mental thunder]

horseshoe

[twin pilot]

and rhash?

[mental thunder]

music box

so you can build him 100% crit easier and have more cdamage from hands

tonal only needs 80% crit

[twin pilot]

ok sounds good. haven't played with rhash and errich

[mental thunder]

very good synergy

[twin pilot]

yeah i heard

tried it very early game and was hard with no gear.

[mental thunder]

errich wild gets better everytime someone procs a wild, rhash similar and tonal snowball damage buff every time a wild procs so you'll get hermaxed in just a couple rounds

so just need consistent attack down from khrysos and shields/heals from him and adolphus

[twin pilot]

im only on vortex 3

the 4 one i get destroyed.

[mental thunder]

vortex IV has defense down issue but you should still be ok

going to be a gear check

platinum knight or gambler on all 3 attackers but need 200 accuracy on debuffers and like 50k hp or more on attackers

[twin pilot]

ok will shoor for that

the only attackers are tonalfan and rhash right

errich for def down

should ig et hourglass on adolphus then

[mental thunder]

if his shields are sufficient without tiara, then probably

iola can use it well also

so you'd get more use than gatekeepers

then you pull garius today randomly and your rally team potential gets kicked in the nuts bc no gatekeepers for him

[twin pilot]

HAHA

hmmmm maybe i'll just waiiti for now and pray for graius

or s2 i can pick him

[atomic briar]

Struggling getting over 11m with this team. Any advice to improve? I have most epics + caspar and rhash as wild leggos. Do i need to replace adolph with a dispeller to get rid of frost debuff?

[dull island]

yeah put tgt units that i alr had built 🥲 does usha have to be holding bracelet for heals on kill?

[mental thunder]

yes

[mental thunder]

frost debuff is going to shred tonal and ergander, so yeah... really do need that cleanse. are you using defense down arti on errich?

[atomic briar]

Yup usinf witches

[lapis glacier]

Correct placing boss hits only 2 people and they need enough resist, Adolphus+poison tank

Aah forgot u had Tonalnan, tank+Tonal enough resist and u should be fine, that 11m is great dmg in 2mins

[atomic briar]

Shoulf i use vicuc?

[atomic briar]

Should i use vicuc?

[mental thunder]

you'd last slightly longer but you'd do less damage, so you may end up doing the same

the snowball on damage bonus for these bosses scales fast

so it may buy you another 2 rounds, maybe 3

[lapis glacier]

Auster targets minium 2 people with ulti, so placing is key

[atomic briar]

Yah right now he target erdanger and taln. Damn. Not sure what else i can to get to 22m

[lapis glacier]

Both enough resist and skill haste to Adolphus to give shield before ulti.
I dont remember if any of my teams did 11m in continental, but had 5 22m at otherworld with buffs

[atomic briar]

Ohhhh. I didbt realize otherwordly had buffs. Mayhe my aspirations are too high for continental lol

[gloomy cargo]

Whats the strategy to defeat these guys

[lapis glacier]

In 1st no one can be next to each

Boss hits hard, atk debuff before ulti and when minion is connected need kill minion first

[mental thunder]

if you start ergander top front and frurb bottom from and then spread out the rest, should allow you to survive with that team

because ergander and frurb will engage him with 1 space between them

so no additional damage; everyone just needs to be sufficient hp to survive the aoe

[lapis glacier]

On gloom i used vinyara with loads of skill haste and hoped meggan pumps 25% ulti charge on her 🫣

[gloomy cargo]

Ok i'll try this

[quartz sapphire]

Use Fru as a healer, cut Adolph and put Caspar in

[quartz sapphire]

Healing debuff for the second one So She cant heal. Aoe the minions. Voresh+Sigrid can do the job.

[sharp pendant]

I'm feeling the same anxiety, #9 and dragon coming in a couple days

[hot stag]

I'm in S2 and the Pillars are going to open in 1 day. I'm looking for some advice on teams to level for Pillars and then the challenge bosses in 3 weeks. I want to maximise my potential this season but I have so many characters its a little overwhelming. My Huburg, Viconia and Durango are fully scrolled and I have enough master scrolls for 1 other legendary if you have any recommendations. Thanks in advance for your help.

[atomic briar]

Thanks this probably would makw the most sebse. I used fru for ripekas battle unfortunately dur. Next yime i thibk ill use erdanger for rip

[quartz sapphire]

I dont have Felicity, But used the Errich,Tonal,Caspar team in Vortex back to S1 and Caspar was the no1 dmg 😄

You might lack healing tho But Its worth a try

[frozen bramble]

[mental thunder]

ah and with the spider boss, i use sigrid for the heal prevent and to try and kill the adds before she can eat them and gain damage bonus... kind of a dps check mechanic... you in a race to kill her before she kills you. i also like iola here to stun and attack down the adds, frurb to attack down the boss as needed and voresh to defense down everything. works better in s2 when those are an affinity 😛

[sinful frost]

Slowly getting prepared for Utior that’s starting next week on our server … can anyone give me a hint for my Necro / Ice team who to use as the 5th?

Other 2 teams I was planning are these …

Potentially replacing Heksandra with Dench !?

Have these to play with …

[mental thunder]

if you are s2, my recommendation would be to use units that you already have scrolled from s1.... and you are probably already familiar with pillar - it is the same format just has new enemies in it (which arent going to be any worse then before... still has all the shagrol, questa, nastjenka and trolgar jumpers for you to deal with and hvitar aoe nonsense). garius, voresh, huberg, lossenia, rowena probably plenty for most floors for light...... frurb, iola, sigrid, durango, ichiucatl/sifris for taint....... adolphus, journ, zharloth, irma, burn lego maybe for fire?

[atomic briar]

How much resistance is needed to resist auster frost in boss battle? Im at 280 and it doesnr seem like i am resisitng it ever lol

[shut magnet]

Who’s a better healer Catherine or Heksandra?

[mental thunder]

not a good question.... they are different affinities, therefore line up with different heroes within the affinity and they have completely different mechanics...... one is not better than the other. one is better at preventing debuffs, one is a heal only while other adds buffs... just different, not 1v1 comparison

[vivid python]

Any suggestions for teams for the chief challenges? (Don’t mind leveling and scrolling new heroes)

[mental thunder]

you only need 3 for chiefs, so pick your best 3 element teams. advise avoid cold damage though, bionphray is obnoxious as a boss.

jathalea and auster only need 1 cleansed debuff and errich needs 0, so they are easy peasy imo

jathalea is light, auster is fire, errich is lightning damage.

ripelkas isnt a bad boss, he takes extra poison damage but you'll need to cleanse 3 debuffs every turn

schaltar, tharivol, garius, nathaniel, iola would be a pretty good team vs errich; you just need to make sure schaltar is tanky enough to withstand his battle skill + ult every turn, spread out the others in the team so they dont take damage at all.

[lethal flame]

So...Im working on creating a Radiance team, mainly for Pillar but will use for other content if its a good balance setup.

Original plan was Garius, Alton, Huberg, Iola, and Nathaniel.

However, I pulled Catherine this morning. Would it benefit the team more to swap Nathaniel for Catherine - or leave him in?

[mental thunder]

most of what is hard in light pillar is the multiple jumpers such as nastjenka and shagrol... successfully baiting them with a low HP, high defense support like either catherine or nathaniel is the way there, or stun lock them with iola. huberg + alton + iola is a general good setup for the light bosses, as the aoe will help you deal damage to the boss until you get through the left elemental..... the issue will be bursting down the left elemental or preventing heals on it with some kind of debuff (not a lot of options, and nessa reduces your damage output + she is a melee so she will die fast)........... those late pillar light bosses are the toughest part. i dont think catherine's buff prevent is going to help you as much as nathaniel's shields, if that helps

but i also think on boss fights you will end up needing another attacker besides huberg and drop the support anyway

[lethal flame]

Thanks, I'm just now trying to dip my toes into Pillar for the first time so I didn't know what to expect.

That helps.

[mental thunder]

aoe with stun sets = good

[faint jay]

Any advice for this step?

[unkempt basalt]

Thanks this helps a lot. Regarding summoning, particularly maybe rares are there any key units im missing to look out for to actually make good teams?

[mental thunder]

https://tenor.com/view/rocky-rocky2-win-inspiration-gif-8866665

[mental thunder]

not specifically for pillar, i dont think any rares except sigrid helped me. maybe meggan for healing dark/ice

[vivid python]

Would you have any suggestion for light team? Created a new fire team and adjusted my lightning team, but really unsure about light

[mental thunder]

looks like volthug is your only other tank, and if you doing light damage you will need a cleanse from the poison or immunity from like catherine. welby, catherine, irina, volthug...... quarion? i dont see it being a very high scoring team but might get you 2-4m

[mental thunder]

for stuff like this i always just went with a speedy debuffer like iola to control the mass of evenmies + 2 tanks, one in front and one in back so the majority of them target those two. then sigrid and voresh. frurb, garius, iola, voresh, sigrid i think worked for me? stun the left side, voresh debuff and shoot everyone, frurb attack downt eh right side if sigrid is less accuracy and more damage focused so you cover attack down for everyone

[cerulean cairn]

Would anybody be willing to help me teambuild for the new elemental domains? The highest I've cleared on any so far is 3, and it's getting frustrating
(Edit, just beat ice 4, lineup is horuss, traveler, liko, heksandra, and dane, also have errich and vicuc at 100 if it helps any)

[mental thunder]

show roster?

[cerulean cairn]

I also have every rare, I'm 100% willing to grind and level up anybody who would help

[onyx lintel]

Furbath Adolphus Sigrid Dane and FMC will get you through tempest and frost

[cerulean cairn]

Oh I meant the event stuff, sorry

[onyx lintel]

OW domains?

So for flame domain in OW, use the team I said but drop FMC for more sustain

Either Sifris or Vicuc honestly

[cerulean cairn]

What is FMC? Sorry, I'm fairly new

[wide jasper]

Try putting Sigrid and stegamuffin on the tornados. Will launch them in front of the wizards and into relative safety

[cerulean cairn]

Oop nvm found it

[mental thunder]

so for otherworld things are a bit complicated. you have to deal with a lot of nonsense and stronger enemies in tehre similar to high level pillar or fey

bcfre gave you a decent team that should work, just make them tanky enough and be mindful of positioning

for necro, you have to worry about questa jumping on you, which is the hardest part. so that means build a team that has a high defense, low hp hero to bait her and then focus her down

[faint jay]

tried, but they kill me in a sec all the team

[balmy spoke]

I have rhash, felicity, tonalnan, and errich. Which ones should I put in my wild team, or should I just divide them and make two teams?

[honest rune]

Currently hit about 6.5 million on temporal vortex 4 with ergander/gillian/ice traveler/tonalnan/errich. Any advice on getting to 8 million?

[half ridge]

for chaos shadows?

[balmy spoke]

sorry, for s1 copper mainly

[half ridge]

ah, do one, felicity or rhash, tonal, errich + 2 supports

try felicity or rhash, i think fel will do more but worth testing

[balmy spoke]

thanks for the tip! ill try

[onyx lintel]

Furbath Tonal Errich Journ and Vicuc

Oh just saw the rest of your roster lol. Do Furbath Isolde Tonal Errich and Adolphus

[honest rune]

Haha awesome, I was wondering if I should've boosted up Adolphus. Isolde wasn't on my radar but I'll check her out and find time to level em up. Thank you!! 🎉

[plush thicket]

Fru, Sifris, Tonalnan, Errich, follie or journ.

Vortex 4 you have to mitigate def down 30%. Vicuc negates the 30%, Sifris gives +30% defense above the 30% def down.

More than 2 support wont give you the damage you want vs the escalation of vortex's damage. I tried the three supports vs 2 supports s1 at length, don't do more than 2 supports (Tank and healer)

Just gear appropriately (Fru with accuracy and tons of defense), Sifris with Blessed gearset for the self heal.

[honest rune]

Sifris yeah I felt like I was hitting the wall with the shielder/tank/heal/2-wild combo, did some searching on Discord and was on the fence for Adolphus to just take over shielder/healer. Plus the 5-unit affinity is probably helpful too

Ah I was also just defaulting Fru with the tank set too, good to know I should've been running accuracy set

[plush thicket]

Adolphus is great. So is Isolde with him. But 3 support comps just dont really make it in the top 100 on bigger servers for long for the reason of, you want more damage in before Vortex's damage escalates. Wilds do really well with Wilds. Journ works mostly out of the damage and attack down perspective, but Fru geared right you'll at least have some of that in there, and Sifris heals for way more than anyone else in your choices.

[plush thicket]

You can but no.

Run Ancestral 3pc for now. Just grab accuracy rune and accuracy adds in there.

s1 fru and sifris for me

[honest rune]

Ah thank you for the clarification yeah my server's about 35 days out til season 2, I'm fringe top 100 but I figured there could be some optimization done somewhere since I've been throwing the same team at em over and over again

oh damn those are some good equips good to know

[plush thicket]

Thats actually the old fru, trying to find the other one of him with lower health and higher def.

Cause the tbolt scales on your health, so you want low health, high def

There it is

[honest rune]

Ah okay I always wondered what should be the balance between defense & hp in this game (i'm guessing it largely depends on what you're facing, but at least for vortex def > HP)

[plush thicket]

For tanks it goes by their stats

Fru and Garius? 4500+ defense and like even 60-70k health is enough.

Ergander? Scales on HP, so its more like 4k-4.5k and 100k health.

[honest rune]

ah okay, good to know its largely hero-based then

[plush thicket]

Ideal accuracy is always 280+ but even at 200 fru would get off some attack downs. Mostly a heavily geared fru plus sifris got me to 50m on the regular with Felicity, Tonalnan, and Errich.

But I also had Staff, Horn, and Witch.

In your case, get Errich into a brotherhood set with 97%+ crit rate and enough accuracy to land crown/witch and youre set

[honest rune]

Yeah the only lego artifacts I'm rocking are Witch & Hourglass, Errich's been running the witch but with the troll set - I'll switch him over to brotherhood. I also need to grind out the accuracy runes more but ah well that'll be for later

This advice has been awesome, Porch - appreciate the guidance

[plush thicket]

I'm crossin fingers for ya that you pull Felicity, Caspar, or Flora.

Wild was very rewarding to play in s1 for many of us.

[honest rune]

Would love that too 🤞 Felicity or Flora always looked awesome to me, though I heard in the last 30 days of S1 you would probably be better off saving for S2

[plush thicket]

True, but you can get felicity from horn.

[honest rune]

🤤

[fossil raft]

I seem to be at a point where I can go either necro/frost, or Radiance/lightning for my main team and I am not sure which one to focus on.

[magic kayak]

So my main team is poison, I’m pretty new and want to start building a second team for fire domain and to have versatility, any advice? I’m new and not the best with team building

Was leaning towards lightning because I have Garret but I’m starting to see just because it’s a legendary doesn’t mean you need to build a team around it

[plush thicket]

Did you use your epic chest already? All you need is garius at this point.

Lit/rad: Garett, Shagrol with crown/witch in single target (so, vortex), Schaltar (High enlightenment). Swap shaggy for Iola in other scenarios. Healer is Quarion, tank is garius if you still have epic chest available, if not wait on this as you really dont have a decent rad/lit rank unlocked.

Fire/Poison: fru, Heks, Tonalnan, Errich when you unlock him, and journ until you get a better choice of wild

Poison/Poison: Fru, Heks, Eli, Twitch, Durango (Youre missing two core epics here, Corrin and Horace)

Ice/necro: TBH, just wait. Voresh is gonna be useful to you vs bosses, bout it. He's key to several setups in s1. https://discord.com/channels/928541801260908546/1155731189966061598

Mostly you're at 70 lock, you'll likely get more unlocks as the story/season goes on, and you'll want to ask again as you get more epics/legendaries.

Key epics to look out for:
Garius ***Most important
Follie
Sifris
Vicuc
Corrin
Horace
Duling or Clovis or Volthug with no garius
Zharloth
Rava

[plush thicket]

We'd have to see your roster/unlocks

[magic kayak]

I did use my epic chest unfortunately

Eli is better than sigrid?

[plush thicket]

Geared right in a poison comp, yes. But you can just run sigrid if you want. It's his passive going off of poison stacks that give him better damage.

[magic kayak]

Interesting

[plush thicket]

Like right now where you're at in the game, just level Fru, Heks, Tonalnan, Errich when he unlocks, Sigrid, Voresh, Journ.

[fossil raft]

just hit lv 18, have all side quests done, just waiting to hit lv 19 for next part of the story.

[plush thicket]

Do you still have the free hero reset available?

[fossil raft]

yeah, Im only on day 3

[magic kayak]

Ideally I need a reliable team to farm fire dom, who should I level for that next?

My team gets smoked because of the resistance

So I’m kinda stuck at 70 with my resets gone

[plush thicket]

Go ahead and reset Estella and forget she exists. Meggan is a better healer than her. TBH, you could honestly just de-level all of your ice/necro for now.

Right now for clearing content, go ahead and level Horrus and Heksandra. Use fire MC, and whoever looks interesting out of fire or poison for you. When you get the rare chest, take sigrid, level her. Letalis isnt a bad choice for now, nor is shink.

Roll as many dice as you can for now, you need a lot more unlocks. you really don't have a dps team yet, you have mostly tanks and supports. Youre gonna want to reset EVERYONE before you free reset expires, and come back here and ask again about who you should be working with.

[plush thicket]

the s1 FAQ I linked, go to the section about the fire boss.

You have enna, skill her up and use her. level 1 incense artifact (epic) and 26-28 skill haste or more and she'll be able to cleanse every round. If its under 28 skill haste with the incense artifact just start her a tiny bit early before the boss ulti as she will fall behind a bit each round.

Boss ulti is on an 18 second timer.

[fossil raft]

copy that boss!

[plush thicket]

Heks will still survive geared right during the fights up to rank 4 or 5 in the dungeon, you mostly just need to choose a tank and dps who aren't fire or poison after rank 3, or starting at rank 3. @magic kayak

[magic kayak]

Thank you, so I don’t really need to focus on having a full 5 element affinity team then?

[plush thicket]

The whole game is clearable with horrus, heks, and a 3 affinity dps team.

Mostly just keep working through content for rewards to use towards dice.

[magic kayak]

Awesome tyvm

[gloomy cargo]

Help. Cant defeat this guy

[fossil raft]

for being weak against the fire temple thing, this team is farming it really well.

[fossil raft]

holy heck this team slaps

[sly pebble]

what should I use for the first 5 main lineup? I can also buy the epic chest if still needed

[azure sluice]

Just buy the epic chest and open them later when you found out which one you needed the most.

[sly pebble]

Yeah that's what im planning also. But I need to know my first 5 since the level reset in my account will be gone in 12 hrs

[azure sluice]

What rare do you have? Usha, Irina, Tioh etc?

[sly pebble]

Tioh and Enna

[azure sluice]

Keep the big names, Zhar'Loth, Sigrid and Frurbath. Frurbath isn't enough to be sole healer and sometimes you need to remove Zhar'Loth, so later you need to level up a healer, but for now I suggest you use a shielder (Nathaniel maybe) and that leggo as DPS. You need to be careful for the positioning though.

[azure sluice]

I assume you still not far in story then? That would be balanced enough, with control effect, attack penalty, heal prohibition, but in later part of the story and dungeon you will need some "specialist heroes" like shield breaker, cleanse/debuff immunity, dispel/buff prohibition. Enna isn't enough for Grave of Rot

[sly pebble]

Thank you

[elder sierra]

What team do you guys use in melee vortex 4?

Cant pass over 10mils damages

[mental thunder]

#1180150041730617344

[azure sluice]

I'm just lucky enough my Vortex team dps is Sutha. Sutha, Garius, Acilia for cleanse and brotherhood buff, Ihuicatl for shield and def+, Irina for attack penalty. I used the buff food before combat because it's somehow add 15% damage.

[mental thunder]

food does nothing in vortex

[snow siren]

i got 14 red candy in my bag used 5 and unable to triger the quest for the ambush i walked over spot many times

[viral gorge]

any build f2p for child of chaos?

[mental thunder]

people cant tell you what to use if you dont have the units, what you use is what you have

....if you show us what you have maybe we can suggest?

but i'll say i auto'd it and didnt even know what the big deal was. garius healing, lightning MC as ony of my dps... i think sagomir for debuffs and... nathaniel maybe for shields? shagrol for damage?

it wasnt amazing

i possibly had nimbus for damage instead of lightning MC

2 dps, tank, healer, debuffer... pretty standard. make it work with what you have

[viral gorge]

For the first time I faced the boss, I found it very easy...but he always defeated me with 20% HP left. I made some modifications and it became almost impossible in subsequent attempts.

[viral gorge]

After finishing the dungeon I will send you a print of the units I have

[mental thunder]

what about rares?

[viral gorge]

almost all level 1

[mental thunder]

sagomir, garius, sigrid, rava, rowena is what i would try

its a mixed team but who cares

can always swap out rowena and rava for martina and irina to go for at least a 3/5 affinity

[mental thunder]

the only way to win is to kill the hand before your tank dies

so need good dps; frurb and garius together should be able to heal enough to free up a slot for 2 dps and sagomir

sag you can build accuracy and high attack/hp so he offdps and debuffs for you

[viral gorge]

Should tanks wear resistance armor?

[mental thunder]

high defense is all they really need

you arent resisting anything anywhere unless it is huge resist stat, and that's going to make them do poorly at their job

[viral gorge]

When he grabs the character, isn't it a "buff"?

[mental thunder]

you have to kill the hand at that point

you arent going to resist it

[viral gorge]

Maybe the reason for my failure is leaving it in automatic mode 👀

[mental thunder]

lol perhaps perhaps

go try it, kill the hand

[viral gorge]

Thank you for your attention!

have a nice day ❤️

[lime wasp]

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[arctic mural]

Any suggestions for this stage of Faye?

[mental thunder]

https://tenor.com/view/rocky-rocky2-win-inspiration-gif-8866665

as a suggestion, if you have iola you should use her

[arctic mural]

Lol. I meant like in general what helps vs ice blast? Resist? Defense? They seem to just shred my squad

[arctic mural]

Alright I'll have to level her

[mental thunder]

typically for any of those new teams you want a cleanse

but will say this... iola + sigrid + voresh + frurbath/garius (or both) + cleanse healer = cheese

[arctic mural]

Unfortunately I don't have voresh 😞

[mental thunder]

iola pretty good by herself ofc because diamond area ult and aoe stun

but you can always bring another debuffer, like frurb as a second tank (or if you dont have garius, bring isolde)

you can use mixed teams, just have iola and sigrid and you'll push through everything

[arctic mural]

Alright, thanks!

[mental thunder]

basically all i've done all season

[ebon thistle]

Who are some cleanse healers that you'd recommend? I feel my healing options in S2 are severely lacking. Used Heksandra and Meggan a lot through S1.

[mental thunder]

unfortunately, there arent a ton of options... frurbath actually has a 30% chance to cleanse on his basic attacks, so high attack speed on his runes is obviously something that might help... heks only cleanses 1 target with battle skill, so not great... nathaniel cleanses everyone that is around him but that means only ranged units that are tightly packed with him will get that benefit, which isnt always good because of aoe targeting from enemies focusing on groups within range... enna does 1 cleanse full screen targeting but her heal is only regen, but still useful if you can fit her in a team... and then of course there are immunity healers like catherine and legos like acilia, gillian and oggok who are insanely good.

i personally am lucky i have acilia so i plug her in basically everywhere

[ebon thistle]

Thanks for that. Thought maybe I was missing something obvious in rare/epic set. I'm using Enna and Nathaniel situationally. And lucky to have Frurbath as a tank. Did not think to boost his attack speed, l will give that a try. Also, pray to get one of those legendary healers some day 🙂

[mental thunder]

acilia is basically a cheat code vs anything with debuffs

[plush thicket]

Hehe. Keep moving forward in the game and getting unlocks, wait till you see a sync'ed dps team. I hope you're having more fun now.

[mental thunder]

high resist, high speed acilia and yikes

[arctic mural]

I use vicuc for cleanse + heals

[atomic briar]

@mental thunder this the best team i can make for thelendor cont challenge?

Ghulende focus atk/witches, zhar focus haste atk for heals

[remote vortex]

Could I make a solid team with this?

[onyx lintel]

Hell yeah you can. Loren Alton Garius Voresh and Gillian or Hegio depending on the content

For gob you can do Loren Alton Hegio and Martina, then a sustain of your choice... by late season Voresh should be able to sustain

[mental thunder]

if you arent using summoners, yeah this team looks great. you can influence the ult charge from thelendor to ensure his rally doesnt go off with his ult so you take less damage

[mental thunder]

imagine being s2 with that lineup and not knowing what you are doing

[remote vortex]

@onyx lintel see I’ve only ever used Gillian so it’s all new for me these or radiants who would you put witches remains on and also hourglass?

[mental thunder]

voresh gets witch remains, obviously. hourglass on lorentheel to cycle his ult buffs faster

[remote vortex]

I forgot I even had voresh tbh

[atomic briar]

Would a summoner team be better you think? Got prem and scha so could go that route too

[mental thunder]

i think you have tools to work with, could always run both in otherworld 🙂 test them see which is better, but as long as they are doing over 7m damage they are worth it

[atomic briar]

Word ty 🙂 i did 30m on my dauntless team vs errrich so maybe my expectation are too high ool

[onyx lintel]

Some of us are Voreshless you know

[elder sierra]

have faith & good luck

[remote vortex]

I’m so sorry:(

[mental thunder]

https://tenor.com/view/rip-coffin-black-ghana-celebrating-gif-16743302

[severe cedar]

Hi, can someone help me make 01 more comp with that? please.

For Dragon - Finally bos

[lime wasp]

Thia+Adrie+Hochadir+def ignore ice archer+Deverick, where Hochadir needs EQ to keep himself alive & Thia with some ENL for healing

[mental thunder]

ergander on candle, errich on accuracy set for defense down arti, tonal, alfie, sifris 🤷‍♂️

ergander can remove stacks solo, rest is damage and survival

[lime wasp]

Was just about to start about fire/poison options yeah. Good options there

[mental thunder]

i did similar team with felicity instead of alfie and use vicuc + adolphus i think? i forget

and i used ergander with my other team... ergander, frurb, sigrid, eli, heks i think?