📊┆dragon-lineup-help

[tough mauve]

I’ve done it twice and could not tell you where a single one was. I just steal or buy from everyone I see

[analog minnow]

I’d love some quick advice as I’ve totally ignored ice necro until the last few weeks of the season. Mostly had no good units until recently. Need my best teams for pillar and vortex’s. Thanks.

[tough mauve]

Need to level Salian, but going to try Salian heks Sigrid letalis meggan.
I might also try Altin for the 3rd poison fire, and then use irina instead of letalis for attack debuff 2

[surreal valley]

meggan, usha, voresh, zhar'loth, vidimir

[surreal valley]

If you had joyce I wouldve recommended a scharlach summon team and if you had pulled questa I wouldve recommended her over vidimir but the team I suggested is a grind value team, lots of sustain (two healers and a partial healer and usha shields herself)
Build usha full atk and ult damage and vidimir just full DPS and then max your healers haste values so your team heals often

[minor palm]

No Garrius is hurting me there. All my main teams are getting crushed in tier 5

[surreal valley]

no garrius here either. Frurbath is just as good though if you have him

[graceful hinge]

Day twoish account. Any help with current hero pool? And I got the 1$ epic chest to use.

[surreal valley]

horrus, dane, traveler, irina, heksandra

swap traveler to ice or swap out traveler for meridith for more sustain

and when you get sigrid I would run horrus, dane, sigrid, heks and flexible slot

[graceful hinge]

Hmm okay thanks. Is it good to use the epic selection chest on Sigrid? Or hoard it lol

[surreal valley]

she is a rare which you get a free rare chest from the season pass (without buying the pass). If you dont get her naturally sigrid, meggan, usha, or eli ( in that order) would be your best picks.

sigrid for damage, meggan to easily clear grave of venom for better gear, usha for eventual late game and eli for vortex when you unlock it

[graceful hinge]

Oh thought Sigrid is Epic 😅...

[surreal valley]

nope 🙂 If you got an epic chest there are a LIST of characters that would be worth using it on

[graceful hinge]

Pls enlighten me 😚

[surreal valley]

Solid epics and the reason they are good;
Voresh - pairs near perfectly with sigrid and makes late game mob content easy
frurbath - a tank that just out performs horrus in the late game and allows vortex content to be beaten easier as you dont need a full healer
Vicuc - Allows you to counter all the voresh sigrid teams in PvP but also turns grave of rot into a breeze
Questa - great PvP pickup but only if you need a backline killing DPS
Tonalnan - You get Errich for free and these two turn Vortex into a cake walk. You can rock a heavily tanky team and these two as DPSs and they will shred a lot of content
Rava - Pairs with Usha near perfectly to turn your team into a top tier frost comp.
Adoplhus - best epic shielder in the game (IMO) and will help with a lot of content and PvP late game
Garius - One of the ebst tanks in the game. On par with Frurbath. Outshines Frurbath in PvP and grave of rot, loses to frurbath in all other content
Zharloth - Seriously powerful healer, also pairs with sigrid fairly well

[surreal valley]

my recommendation is to play the content for a while (account level 20) and really focus on one team for that time, a well rounded beat everything team. Horrus, sigrid, dane, heksandra, irina would be that team (swapping irina for meridith when you need a second healer)

[graceful hinge]

Really appreciate the insight breakdown.

[surreal valley]

after you hit account 20 and have pulled a bunch of epics then choose your epic

I got VERY fortunate, I used my chest for frurbath and then pulled all the major epics (voresh, vivuc, questa) that I needed to make my sigrid team auto pilot

But I also pulled a frurbath duplicate and couldve had another top tier DPS or adoplhus for top tier shields

[graceful hinge]

Okay noted. I also wanna take advantage of the free limited hero reset function cos dunno how much it'd cost lter

[surreal valley]

so I recommend pulling until you get yuor first legend. That should also give you about 5-6 epics. If you pull a voresh, you have a sigrid team. If you pull Tonalnan you have a wild DPS team (late game when you unlock errich around account level 30)
but then you can open a chest and grab a character that will help you clear the tougher content at that opint in the game when it gets ahrder

[surreal valley]

100%. Literally I just kept refreshing heros to level a different team to beat content I needed but honestly frurbath, voresh, and sigrid is an absurdly powerful core comp

If you get frurbath or voresh by the time you hit your first legend and that legend doesnt replace the epic you did not get I would get the other since it just trivialized most content

Also, learning ability timers is very important. If you get a voresh, making sure his ultimate goes on before sigrids is a great example

[graceful hinge]

Alright will do

[surreal valley]

Also if you get a voresh and then eventually get a duplicate epic. Unlock the accuracy artifact that applies a defense reduction debuff. It pairs nearly perfectly with him. But only after you buy the ultimate damage boosting epic artifact. That will be your first DPS centric artifact

but the legend you get wil decide your teams.

my first legend was gillian, a top tier healer. So I got to ignore needing two healers for a lot of content. My second legend was garret, a top tier single target DPS so I did not have to worry about levelling a single target DPS for vortex and bosses.

your legend will decide the comp you go. and if you get a lower tier legend its better to know that before unlocking an epic

an example being that if you get Scharlach, a summons based legend. One epic I did not list (because they are super niche) is joyce. If you max her out with scrolls joyce is able to get up to three summons in play at the same time and that really makes schalrach super strong as now scharlachs summon does 100% bonus damage

[graceful hinge]

Got it... Should one use gold dice right way of wait to summon x5?

[surreal valley]

it wont matter. Group pulls feel more satisfying but there is not difference. honestly single pulls is prob best cuz you get the heros as you pull them so if you get a good epic or rare you didnt wait a whole week for it

and goodluck on the pulls you do get 🙂

[raw wraith]

Trying to improve my vortex team(~550k stage 3). How can I improve, should I go wild? I've enough scrolls for one epic

[wide lark]

guys im stack in this boos what should i do here are my characters maybe i need all lvl 100 1st then try again or any other comp

[surreal valley]

what are your other heros?

[wide lark]

this is my main champs

[atomic briar]

Currently have team with sutha/schaltar/tamar/acilia/garius. Is it worrh switchjng antone for tharivol?

[surreal valley]

frurbath, heksandra, irina, latalis

[raw wraith]

Sorry didn't include the others cuz I didn't think I had enough to be viable. But here's the other elements

Everyone says wild is the way to go, but I've not really invested in fire much cuz I didn't have anyone. But I just pulled Dane and caravan recently, which made me reconsider

[surreal valley]

max out frurbath with scrolls (if you havent); team comp should be twich, eli, frurbath, usha, lossenia

swap out eli for heksandra if you need a second healer

[raw wraith]

Can furbath sustain by himself?

[surreal valley]

then skill haste frurbath until his ult is on a 20s cooldown and make him trigger his first ult at the 19s mark

[wide lark]

am i going to be able to defeat this? after with that 4 comp just with one tank?

[surreal valley]

my frurbath heals more than my gillian on vortex by over double. If his skills are maxed, his defense upwards of 3-4k then yes he can

[surreal valley]

I meant to type sigrid too

[wide lark]

so i dont need traveler anymore?

and i dont even got that sigrid yet

[surreal valley]

but frurbath (if built right) is one of the strongest tanks in the game. You want him fully scrolled (one of the few tanks you want to scroll) and you want him fairly stat hungry (200 accuracy, 200 resistance, 70k HP and 3k Def) focus on gettnig the HP and defense first, then accuracy, then resistance

[surreal valley]

if you have the rare chest from the season pass you can unlock her

[wide lark]

meh i somehow maybe used it or sth

is there any other worth like sigrid for now and i dont even need the traveler?

[surreal valley]

no worries. Instead of sigrid then use eli if you have him

or just use traveller

for the sake of resources traveller is fine; so team is frurbath, traveler (fire), heksandra, irina, latalis

[wide lark]

okey okey

imma do that my friend thank you very much my guy well played

[surreal valley]

course 🙂 and just so you are aware, if you max frurbath skills, and give him 40-50 skill haste, he creates an AOE healing field that heals for 1500 every second in an AOE (with 3k def, give him more def or defense boosting abilities and it heals more) for 6 seconds. Then he stops for only 2 seconds and then starts it back up again. Constantly healing for 1500 a second is insane when he already has a ton of defense meaning that your healer can focus on the rest of your team

plus his ultimate lowers the enemy attack so then you also make that enemy deal less to him too. And with 3k defense each damage instance is reduced by 3k so its just an insane amount of sustain

[wide lark]

i for now got him 2k not that much of super gear ill try do that i guess

[raw wraith]

Hows this?

[wide lark]

i am still lvl 90 yet now made him 5 star trying to lvl up untill i make that comp lvl 100

and go to that boss and try grind some more

[surreal valley]

usha and lossenia turn usha into a huge damage dealer. Way more than sigrid ever could even with the 15% damage bonus. give usha skill haste gear if available and the ult artifact sigrid is using, give lossenia the accuracy artifact frurbath is using and give frurbath either a healing artifact or a def boosting one. Rock twich the same and heksandra max her skill haste.
Save the team, go into timers, make frurbath first skill activation at 19s and secondary 20s after.

if you have the gear, put on frurbath the 3 piece accuracy ability haste gear so when he ults he boosts your team atk

[atomic briar]

Any advice anyone? Should i keep tesm as is?

[surreal valley]

im super visual, if you send pics I can let you know

but I dont recognize the names so I am probably not going to know for certain

[surreal valley]

ya frurbath at level 100 has enormous defense and health base stats 🙂

[atomic briar]

Ohh ok herw u go

The lvl 1 leggo is new and wondering if i should sub hom in somehow

[surreal valley]

I would definitely for boss content like vortex.

is there a reason you are pushing a 5 element comp?

[wide lark]

thnks for help good night m boy

[surreal valley]

tarivol and sutha would be all you need for DPSs for vortex. Then either acilla or garius as your tank (personally frurbath is better in vortex) and then two supports that buff and debuff

but for aoe content you really need less single damage and Irina would be much much stronger.

[atomic briar]

??? Its only lighting and radiance

[surreal valley]

oh this is for trials?

[atomic briar]

I dunno im a noob its just for in generl lol

[surreal valley]

ya you dont really need a 5 element comp. 3 elements is usually enough until the really late game content

[atomic briar]

Ooohhh i see

I thouvbt it was a must lol

[surreal valley]

So garius and acilla are plenty for tanking and healing. But you have no one that applies atk% down on enemies.

Acilla and garius also heavily remove debuffs so you dont need a cleanser

[atomic briar]

I think tamar dows?

Heres my other box

[surreal valley]

You have a huge selection. Multiple different teams you could run honestly.

ascilla and garius is VERY tanky. You really only need one. You should be running irina 100% and max her out with scrolls. I would also level tharviol but use him for vortex paired with utha.
Vortex team; garius, utha, thavriol, irina (make her first skill trigger at 19s and then 20s after that for next skill trigger), and ascilla as last character.
For your normal team; asscilla, irina, utha, voresh, and zharloth

if you ever get usha. I would swap your team over to a frost version with zharloth, usha, rava, ascilla, and irina/Voresh (depending what you need in that fight)

[atomic briar]

Wow thanks. Sorrg didnt sent you the right boxes. Here are all of them for each element.

Thanks for the advice givent ho 🙂 will do it!

[raw wraith]

Thanks GDN I just did 7.3M. I'll need to farm acc gear. But this is a nice improvement so far

[surreal valley]

no prob 😄

[atomic briar]

Hey man just one question. So you recommend irinia lot, but tamar just seems like a better version of her no?

[mental thunder]

Recommending legos is silly lol, sure tamar is better but irina everyone has

[atomic briar]

Sure but tamar is on my list lol

I meant when he was tecomnending me comps based on my box

[surreal valley]

I honestly spaced on tamar and you are 100% correct in most cases. Keep in mind irina applies atk down which can be applied to all enemies, while stunned a handful of enemies are immune to, and irina remove a buff while tamar blocks any future buffs. So situational

also irina personal damage against mobs is much higher, like a lot. Irina has a 300% damage skill that hits up to 4 enemies.... a 1200% damage ability is huge and its not AOE, its a bouncing effect, so the enemies can be far apart on the map

Tamar is better for trials, PvP, and goblin, Irina is better for general content and a few domains

[surreal valley]

Personally I would run usha, rava, ripekas, twitch, vicuc

for an all around team that is. This team will also help you clear goblin like crazy (swap vivuc for tamar) to level more characters

[atomic briar]

Thank you 🙂

[golden osprey]

how or when can i use the runes?

[copper reef]

if one monster is attack buffed and u cast on him buff prohibition will u interrupt his attack buff or he cant further more buffs?

or he cant have further more buffs*

[obsidian phoenix]

Do you prefer alfie or nedda as a 3rd wild ? (with Errich and tonalnan)

[next crescent]

Help any one?

[lunar gale]

Alfie works better for me when combining with Caspar and Errich

[azure arrow]

I could really use some help with which heroes I should focus on. I'm having great trouble with both fire and tempest 😩

[queen solstice]

hey guys. i rly need help whyt teams, gear and such. thx

[dark pike]

Duling or kamari to tanking?

[obsidian phoenix]

I prefer Duling personally.

[dark pike]

and thinking abaut healing it will be enaff?

I asking becose on this team can ez make tepest lvl 3

so can farm beter stones to upgrate thsi ligthing team

[mental thunder]

Isolde, vicuc, sigrid, fire main character, felicity…… garius, deverick, rava, usha, fritz. Your issue is you arent leveling the right units…

[mental thunder]

Bud you showed us a total of like 15 heroes. I dont think we can make you even one team just seeing those few and mixed elements… filter by element and show us every group of units for each element

[queen solstice]

any tips pls ?

[wispy jetty]

so, building my radiance team, and I know three units I want to use (acilia, pitho and lorenthal), but struggling on the last two. Do I have better epic options than sagomir and huberg?

[verbal shale]

look for heroes who can atk down or dispel maybe (?)

[obsidian phoenix]

Catherine is pretty good to use.

[dark pike]

who will be better to heal Hecasandra or Garian to this team?

[mental thunder]

i'mn still confused how you have 90 heroes but like 20 total heroes... are you hoarding purple and orange dice? doesnt make sense...

[mental thunder]

it is really hard to build you a team when you have like 1 missing piece on every affinity... like thunder/radiance you have an ok tank in clovis, healers in enna and quarion, debuffs in tamar.... but where's your dps? no dauntless and no real rally big dps unless you consider wellby or martina... but without a steady source of rally they are mediocre... so you could use tathlyn to enable one of them but you'd have to get rid of enna. so your rad/thunder team is: tamar, clovis, tathlyn, wellby, quarion... decent single target damage but lacking against many foes.

and poison/fire, you could go horrus, heksandra, sigrid, corrin, esche i guess? you are missing so many rares that you should have before you are even 70, yet you are 90 and have errich already, meaning you either pulled him or defeated purple dragon with a cobbled together roster?

ice/dark you have almost a team... usha, rava, loris, ice main character... but no healing at all. no zharloth, meggan... meggan should be easy access by this point too.

my tip for you is: go use your dice?

[mental thunder]

acilia tank/heals, sagomir debuffer and offtank, lorentheel, philto, garius/catherine/huberg/donella - adjust the last slot as needed, but you have all the pieces you need for a great team there and i'm jealous lol

if you need more heals, garius. if you need more debuff control/heals, catherine. if you need more damage, huberg. need more debuff uptime, donella

[wispy jetty]

meh, was basically looking to see where I can skimp scrolls

[mental thunder]

nah not with that team, too many good options. i would skimp on catherine and donella but scroll the rest for sure

time to stop pulling on banners and focusing on master scrolls with your wyrmarrow

[wispy jetty]

oh, I stopped pulling a while ago, saving up for the s2 banners lol

[mental thunder]

well, if you are more than 30 days from end of season you need to scroll them

because otherworld going to require all of them if you want good rankings

[latent isle]

How useful is vicuna?

[mental thunder]

might be able to get away with huberg not scrolled maybe... he is fine single target because all his aoe hits one; but in light pillar will be kinda painfully low damage

[wispy jetty]

yeah, I have philto/lorenthal half scrolled, gonna do acilia next

err, philto is done

[visual storm]

What's my best chance at killing the peonix lvl9?

I have about a day to get it rdy for double drops

[surreal valley]

frurbath, sigrid, vicuc, dane, adolphus

use sigrid with some accuracy so she applies the healing prohibit, and dane plus frurbath in order to keep atk down debuffs on the enemies. vicuc to remove burning and adoplhus to shield and heal on top of that

[surreal valley]

if you don't have vicuc I would go heksandra. If you pull frurbath he can replace horrus and if you get adoplhus he can replace heksandra

[mental thunder]

It is a shame no lego rally dps because you have everything else you need for auto farming it

[mental thunder]

Ghulende, meggan, deverick, felosia, drizzt and build drizzt tanky

Worth a shot, all great units and that team should be nasty

Deverick holds remains/crown

And if drizzt isnt surviving for you smh, then run irma tank instead of him: you can literally build him just tank build though and dps this down over time. Ghulende should do good damage and heal prevent

So should be able to kill the adds if drizzt ults fast enough and defense down applied

[latent isle]

Need help with lightning team, bois

[mental thunder]

You got all the pieces just put then together lol

Ivellios, nathaniel/ichiucatl, shook, tank, schaltar

Garius or acilia tank 👌

[latent isle]

No garius or acilia sadly

[mental thunder]

https://tenor.com/view/oop-take-my-money-gif-23438077

Could i guess use one of those crapper epic lightning tanks

[latent isle]

💀

[mental thunder]

Or berrick the radiant dwarf tank

Rare

[latent isle]

Is the melee orc dauntless good?

He deals a lot of hits with ult, might be used for witches?

[mental thunder]

Shagrol is ya but schaltar better

He is pvp mostly

Jumper

But shook handles debuffs

[latent isle]

Sad. I wish i had a leggo dps lightning

[mental thunder]

Bro you need a lego dps tank

[rapid crow]

Guys need a little help to decide who to level up first.
I was thinking about journ for vortex/goblin/heretical ruin, dane for goblin/grave of curse, thia for grave of rot.
my current situation in dungeons: grave of venom 9, grave of curse 6 (not focusing on this dungeon much), grave of rot 6, heretical ruins 8, ancient battlefield 8 and goblin 3 stage 2.
And FYI in 9 days the server unlock the increase drop rate of forge material.

[latent isle]

What to get after hourglass and witch? U joloed a dupe

[mental thunder]

Depends what you have. Gatekeepers for garius… horn for acilia 😛 aurelium vest or the derivative damage arti…

[eager coral]

I need help with this team for grave of curse4

[latent isle]

Need shield breaker

Shook, the fire guy and lightning lizard

All epics

[mental thunder]

For rot you could go dark/ice. Loris main tank, meggan, fritz, usha, deverick maybe… need fritz to ult right after boss debuffs

[latent isle]

If not u need def up, attk down and some huge dps

Or a way to prevent it from gaining attk buffs

[mental thunder]

Need strip of 1 buff, shields, healing, defense buff and attack/defense down

Grover takes care of strip 2 buffs and defense down

[latent isle]

The lizard boi?

[mental thunder]

Ichiucatl or shook take care of shields down, shook does attack down; irina does attack down and removes 1 buff. Personally i like ichiucatl + irina

Ichiu also defense ii buff and heals

[latent isle]

Ichiucatl can double as healer too i think

[mental thunder]

And shields. So she does a lot

[latent isle]

But units need to be under 50%

[mental thunder]

Garius, ichiu, irina + dps + dps

Or grover + ichiu + iola + healer + dps

[quick lion]

Best thunder team I can make for utoir boss? Cant use zeffi or the radiant leggos besides sagomir

[latent isle]

Cath, nessa, filto, lorenthel, clovis

Any gud? @mental thunder

Or should i switch nessa for anthing else with rally

Other options are gitouna, hegio, martina

Im thinking of hegio cuz his passive

[mental thunder]

Jalathea boss? Need tank to take her ults so i recommend maybe 2 tanks or tank + healer up front there… sagomir/duling/clovis + catherine + iola + nimbus?

But she is weak to radiant so 🤷‍♂️

[quick lion]

Hmmm

[quick lion]

The thunder boss.

Jathlena is radiant

[mental thunder]

Oh errich. Again you dont want melee dps there. So tank up front two tanks and have a healer + debuffer + dps

Can use same team i described

[eager coral]

How can i set timer to make my shield and debuffs time perfectly each time before boss ultimate ?

[mental thunder]

trial and error basically, or babysit it and make sure it happens on time manually

[elder swift]

I managed to set up to auto flame domain 5 with a rare only level 90 team, is that something worth sharing

[elder swift]

Count/check the timing with the clock, that's how I did it. Or do you mean how to find that function? If so then it's under the team formation -> edit skill timing

[eager coral]

I waswondering if there is a spesial time to apply in there for debuffs,so they hit right

[elder swift]

Yes if you don't use someone that has ult down/recharge time down it's always the same time

[balmy spoke]

Elecebre or Vinyara for tempest domain?

[elder swift]

Also you need to make sure you have enough accuracy.
I don't know specifically for grave of curse but he gets the buffs always at the same time, between his 1st and 2nk attack in the middle, so time it to go off after that
And shield just slightly before he uses ult

[limber rune]

Irma or Dallbam as tank?

[mental thunder]

Depends on team but either good choices

Or can run both same time so irma reduces damage taken by dallbam

[surreal valley]

Curious, is the enlightened set that gives 30% bonus damage better or worse than the set that ignores 18% armor for characters like sigrid?

[visual storm]

As always ty guys

[elder swift]

Are there heroes that self heal based on damage dealt? Like lifesteal tanks?

[surreal valley]

questa

[visual storm]

Who would be my dps I can see enough stripping of buffs but would it have the dmg to handle the buff birds ?

[dark pike]

can you help me make best team from this?

send me pls pm becose need go sleep in 4am lol

[visual storm]

You have the makings of 2 good teams there Adolphus horus MC(fire) sigrid and heksandra will take you a ways and I'm sure there's a nice necroice team there especially once you get Usha

Like that top row with Usha as a pseudo tank could be interesting

[keen nymph]

Me:chilling and doin main story
Violet dragon:Hey how about the more stuff you spawn the more dmg on face I smack on you

Life is pain sometimes

[graceful hinge]

Is it better to replace Heksandra with Garian? Cos they're both similar. Garian though is Epic

[wind iris]

Neither, both are meeh horrus, garrius or frurbath better choices. If you dont have them ir cant use for restricted content rather take irma than dalbam, he realy is just a lilited punchingbag

[hollow breach]

Hey quick question:
If I use my Nectroic team, I will do more dmg to the boss?

[graceful hinge]

Yes

Rare hero select chest. Have Sigrid, pick her again or someone else?

[balmy spoke]

What y’all think about drugos blast jar? Worth getting?

Or I guess what’s the best artifact to get for tanks in general?

[coarse trench]

Will this work to remove a stack on copper dragon?

[mortal mountain]

drugo's is best for legendaries unless you want more damage on certain healing tanks then solar horn. There's also the parasol that gives heal to surrounding allies when you take damage

[stable rover]

Whats the cold team here? Need at least 11, Usha seems kinda risky vs bion

[mortal mountain]

you don't really have much of a choice lol

dallbam / rava / usha in high resist / zethos / +1 idk who would be better

[stable rover]

Do I just build resist on front or back too?

[mortal mountain]

i'd just put resist on dallbam and usha

only melees

[stable rover]

I got these necros doe

[balmy spoke]

Ancestral or radiance for my eurion?

[mortal mountain]

have you done a necro team as well?

[stable rover]

There should be 11m with summoners ay? Mb gaiolerre with other sums and hope beams fall on skeletons?

[mortal mountain]

if you're doing utior event usually save cold for last if possible if you don't have op lineup for it

[stable rover]

I think I got 11 with adrie Megan smthn

Not utior, otherworld

[mortal mountain]

irma / gaiolore / zadok / zhar'loth / megan or something like that would be big damage. Replace meggan with utior when you get him.

ah ok

[stable rover]

I can save zhar for 2nd team so either 2nd necro or put him in ice for a bit of ult recharge debuff? Dunno

[mortal mountain]

i'd try out some different combinations. I had 2 necro teams it was one of the easier bosses i feel like if you have specific champs

but you don't have questa or deverick

I feel like you could make 2 necro teams still that will be easier to 11m than cold will

[stable rover]

Oh I got 5 Zadoks, 3 Catherine's and some more dupes on last banner)) but skipped Questa and had to use epic chest on vicuc

So butthurt about 52 helios I threw on that blessed banner, was hoping to luck out at least once besides pity to get leg artis, ended up with vicana

And damn didn't have time to farm more, battery dying every day or I fall asleep at the library)]

Actually, I might another fire or poison 11 with vicuc 🤔

[limber reef]

How many legendary shards is the difference between Grave of Venom 8 from 7?

I can constantly clear 7. But my tank dies early on 8. So I'm kinda thinking of gearing better defense first or just farm Venom 7 for legendary dps gears

[coarse trench]

u using horrus?

he best tank that stage

make sure hes as high level as you can get too

[limber reef]

I am, its max level but only +1.6k defense. On Stewgaming he has +2k defense. So I need a bit more

[bleak locust]

@mental thunder hello and thank you once again! Can you help me with teams for some elements, got some new heroes.

[honest falcon]

Can shaltar be useful on a non dauntless team for vortex? Running journ, eli, sig, oggok and frubath atm. Want to improve my damage maybe by replacing eli with shaltar?

[bleak locust]

Havent been using him without Nastjenka, seems subpar. Need dauntless frens to shine I guess

[honest falcon]

Can gamblers set proc crit?

[dull helm]

I need help getting negative runes

[queen solstice]

my curent frost team. i know im missing zharloth or meggan. bud i dont see that dmg potencial. wound be better to build poison + fire MC ?

[mental thunder]

Where are your cold units

No lightning?

Cant make you teams without those lol

Irma, zharloth, questa, deverick, meggan for necro only… garius, lorentheel, sagomir, hegio/martina, wellby for radiance only

[bleak locust]

Oh they are same, nothing new, except Olgan frost, plan to add him to frost team

[mental thunder]

Frurb, twitch, eli, isolde, sigrid

[bleak locust]

But if you need whole picture and its easier for you, I can make ss

[mental thunder]

I dont like olgan, he is melee

[bleak locust]

Isnt he good for my hoch + usha?

[mental thunder]

Dies too easily

You already have 2 melee units to heal

[bleak locust]

No other frost combo options tho 😦

[mental thunder]

Usha, hocha, deverick, zharloth, meggan doesnt work for you?

[bleak locust]

Ah loo necrosis too, havent tested that one.

[mental thunder]

Just use heksandra with the first 4 frost units for the time being til you get meggan; otherwise you are stuck using sigrid, horrus, heksandra, corrin + 1 (esche is ok)

[mental thunder]

Well it is cold + necro affinity so… they work together

Core part of the game is affinity bonuses and element combinations

[bleak locust]

I was picturing 5 same element team, sounds hard for ice necro.. seems possible for poison fire radiance?

[sudden yacht]

Hello, I have a problem with assembling a team for the "Grave of Venom" stage 4 dungeon.
I have exp potion for two more hero lvl 80.

[bleak locust]

And have no idea which leg to push next...

[mental thunder]

Lol dude, that is the whole point of this game

You have 3 affinities of two elements each all season and it changes next season

[mental thunder]

Horrus main tank, frurbath right next to him, heksandra at the top of screen, sigrid in back behind horrus, twitch holding crown of unclean right in front of sigrid

At 70 you should be able to do venom 5 or 6

Just use all defense on horrus and frurbath, ho after that

Heksandra uses enlightenment > resist/hp/defense

Twitch build accuracy, enlightenment and attack/crit%… every 60 enlight he fires additional shots

At 90 should be autoing venom 8 in epic gear easily and at 100 auto 9

[queen solstice]

im using them. bud they dont do much dmg. maybe im doing something wrong ? i have problems to clrear gear dungeons rank 4

[mental thunder]

Gear and upgraded skills?

If you in all epic gear should be easy autoing dungeons up to 8 for gear and 5 domains

[queen solstice]

heksandra and MC all skils maxed

[mental thunder]

Ice mc you really want laurel tiara artifact for bigger shields

Rava you dont have enough accuracy

Need at least 100 to make sure frost is landing

Usha should have 100% crit or close to it or ofc you dont do any damage. Put the eye artifact on usha for bigger ult damage

Loris needs higher accuracy for attack down debuff and defense looks a bit low for a tank

Heks looks decent, could use more enlight but probably fine for that level

Using an attack set on her kinda bleh though, id rather have two goblin sets for more skill haste for speed

Use book over pipe artifact

[queen solstice]

so right now i need to famr blue ger for more acuraci and speed haste righ ?

[queen solstice]

goblin set is the green one ?

[mental thunder]

Goblin is the skill haste + attack one

General rule: attack speed for dauntless as a primary stat and other dps as a secondary; all other units want skill haste to speed ults and battle skills up… grave of rot for a couple 2 piece sets of accuracy + skill haste for rava would be nice

Just remember rava is also a dps after he is a debuffer so you want accuracy first like on body as main stat and all other pieces as sub stats… but hands you can go crit% main stat and on all other pieces as sub stat. Attack after those

Should be easy to get 150 accuracy on rava at your level with 2 blue sets, body main stat. 200 achievable also

And that lasts you til legendary gear

[queen solstice]

ok. gona focus on that for now

[mental thunder]

Dont need to go crazy but basically you farm one dungeon for a couple sets you need, bounce to other dungeon for sets you need, then third one. And keep going around til you are pushing to higher levels of each dungeon. Eventually at 8 you can farm lego gear to be able to do the 9s for more efficiency

Dont waste too much stamina; get the primary stats on epic sets you want and just go with the subs on them

It takes time and patience

[queen solstice]

rate od dmg ?

[mental thunder]

Attack speed is going to be less useful on her than skill haste because her big damage is on ultimates, make sense?

[sudden yacht]

thank you ; )

[dark pike]

ok im back

so 1h free reset with team make boys

still got this

need to make one main to do story

only my hero can level up to 90 all other 70lvl

[mental thunder]

@dark pike you missing 2 key rares… sigrid and usha. I would wait another week before using rare chest on one

[dark pike]

I have sigrid

[mental thunder]

Oh you do!

[dark pike]

only no usha

[mental thunder]

Well then grab usha lets go! Usha, rava, torrin, zharloth, fritz

Replace fritz later with dallbam, irma, loris when you get them

Other team: horrus, adolphus, heksandra, sigrid, eli

[dark pike]

thx

[mental thunder]

Enna, irina, shagrol, ichiucatl, duling… dont scroll duling and replace later with garius so you can drop enna and add another dauntless dps when you pull one (schaltar)

Goblin team: usha using bracelet artifact, sigrid, eli, voresh, rava

[dark pike]

so rava its beter like vidimir?

aa but she put ulti like zarloth

this think help me kill fay 🙂

[balmy spoke]

Does the three eared atk buff stack? Like is it worth it to equip it on multiple heroes?

[mental thunder]

doesnt stack but you can put on multiple heroes and stagger their ult timing so it has more uptime @balmy spoke

i do that on garius + nathaniel/ichiucatl

[balmy spoke]

Thank you

[bleak locust]

ice & lightning @mental thunder

[mental thunder]

Hocha, zharloth, usha, deverick, meggan…. Can replace hocha and usha with questa and irma as needed

Schaltar, nastjenka, garius, sagomir, nathaniel

Can replace sagomir with iola

Depending on situation; can replace two dauntless with lorentheel + hegio/martina/wellby

[bleak locust]

I have 9 legendary scrolls unused 😄 where would you drop them or wait? Not summoning for a while tho.

[bleak locust]

thx

[mental thunder]

tough question. you have a few strong teams but it mostly matters what the skill modifiers do with scrolls.

nastjenka is pvp mostly as a jumper, so if oyu are pvp competitive then invest in her

hocha is ice team buffer, offtank frost debuffer.... not scrolling him means he only has 1x hit 75% frosts

and as primary frost debuff on that team i gave you, he needs 100% or you are going to reduce your damage with usha by a lot over time

alton doesnt really need scrolls; and you dont have a rally lego so i wouldnt bother

sagomir was my first lego and i scrolled him immediately; idk if that was a mistake or not or if i've been using him wrong, but i like him on all my teams

twitch prob needs scrolls to make his poison stacking and dps better

a lot of people dont like scharlach, so i'd hold off there. errich is more of an enabler than a full on dps so might want to wait on him too. and talwer is the joke of legendaries so i definitely wouldnt touch him

[crisp garden]

what line up would you suggest as more powerful?

[onyx lintel]

Nastjenka is a strong dps in the whole game

[mental thunder]

adolphus, frurbath, sigrid, eli, fire MC

would be for general progression balanced and easy through end of the story

second team: irma, dorkruz, usha, meggan/zharloth, ice MC/questa

[crisp garden]

thank you

[sudden hound]

what would be the best epic artifact on the shop for zhar'loth?

[strange plank]

good evening everyone so i am struggling with and i need ot do for weklies anyadvice please am i just not rdy yet to do this??

[mental thunder]

The lineup you are using is okay but only 1 wild you wont score super high, plus errich is your only aoe so unless you are manually doing ults and the timing is good on debuffs from frurb landing just before sigrid ult it will be slow killing the crystals phase ii

Maybe slot adolphus over horrus in my opinion

And dane over errich

[strange plank]

ok will try that thxs

@mental thunder also this is my goblin team and i am trying to hit goblin III again any suggestions

[sharp pendant]

Anyone able to get 25m+ on vortex with ice?

[strange plank]

i dont have errich in my team??

that is my dwarf traveller i have

[mental thunder]

Get rid of frurb and use horrus in goblins, or use a melee attacker that is tanky and using the bracelet artifact for heals on kills

[mental thunder]

Sorry looked like errich lol, traveler is better for targeting yes

So just sub out horrus on ultior and use an extra aoe like dane. Spread out good so no bonus damage on the aoes

If you have to just give all your squishy units tanky artifacts for survivability

[primal silo]

Im new to the game and got the offer where you can select a epic character wich one would you all recommend my current ones are Alfie,Sifris,Shook,Martina,Duling

[strange plank]

furbuar or voresh

@mental thunder @hollow plume can u guys recommend a team for venom 9 please (srry to ask noob questions) thxs

[hollow plume]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MvxPH-RoKtU

[balmy spoke]

Is there any way to edit teams outside of a dungeon?

[hollow plume]

if there is idk where - if you wanna do it but you're out of bread just create the team inside vortex

[balmy spoke]

Ooo didn’t think of that. Thanks

[elder swift]

For pillar taint 10 how much resistance do I need? I got 90+ on everyone and still get poisoned just as much as without it

[mental thunder]

Was it because you spent on a banner and got a chest for a reward or did you buy a $1 epic box and can choose any epic

Because if you have to choose among those i would go shook

[primal silo]

I bought the box and the mentioned characters were the ones I already owned but I already chose my character so my problem was solved already

[atomic briar]

Top teams i can make with this box?

Struggling a bit progressing beyond lvl 70 thru story/ progression

[mental thunder]

lol sick roster. elcebre, usha, rava, voresh, ripelkas.

summon team: zadok, joyce, thia, elvis, meggan/zharloth

thunder/radiance team: 3 lego lightnings, schaltar, garius/acilia

poison/fire: twitch, vicana, corrin, horrus, vicuc/heksandra

[wispy jetty]

the fact his only frost leggo is elacabre is well.. disgusting

[mental thunder]

radiance/thunder: acilia/garius, tathlyn, nessa/irina, martina/wellby

[mental thunder]

frustrating seeing someone with all the best legos and crap knowledge of game

[atomic briar]

Lol im learning :((

[wispy jetty]

He's trying to learn, so not to frustrating to me.

[atomic briar]

Thanks for all these comps tho!

[mental thunder]

np, enjoy the success!

more jealousy than anything lol...

https://tenor.com/view/im-trash-toy-story-cute-gif-14415008

[wispy jetty]

hahaha

I've got radiant, necro, poison done, now I need to figure out dragon comps for the last 3

You want to see something pretty mrowwmir?

[atomic briar]

Which one of the teams you listed should i focus on? Theres so many different things to do im sort of at a loss where to spend my resources. Right now ive been focusing on the thujder/radiance sutha/schaltar/tharivol/acilia but I find im struggling doing higher tier dungeons

[wispy jetty]

elcebre, usha, rava, voresh, ripelkas. has my vote.

[atomic briar]

Good to know. Gearing wise it makes sense to follow the tdub spreadsheet?

[wispy jetty]

not familiar with that one tbh

I go off the ksill details of the units that show the scaling and do that lol

[atomic briar]

True thst makes sense!

[rich maple]

Can someone help me make some decent fire dungeon and goblin lair team from this I have also rare and epic choice chest

[dark pike]

I madesecund traveler becuse thsi time gate and dice this heros with will be better defence hero to this team?

[mental thunder]

Your other account was amazing stop wasting your and our time lol

[dark pike]

but what to do if I done all

[mental thunder]

Makes no sense what you are saying the game has seasons

[latent isle]

f2p witches lmao

almost puked

[mental thunder]

Usha, dallbam, enna, ice traveler, wilt

Replace wilt and enna later on with more heroes

[mental thunder]

My witches was free 🙂

From horn.

[latent isle]

how many f2p even got a lego let alone a dupe

[dark pike]

I mean abaut all quests arena then need w8 for new day to level up story

[mental thunder]

I had sagomir from horn and had him inspired for 2 weeks til someone said get witches lol

[latent isle]

lol

[mental thunder]

You logout and play something else or read a book, beat off, get a girl, watch a movie

Anime

[latent isle]

i got rhash from horn and another 2 rhashes from heliolite

[mental thunder]

Yikes

[latent isle]

life is sad

[mental thunder]

Wish i had hourglass. Could push beyond silver lion III in arena with it

[sudden hound]

whats the best artifact for premtsa on shop?

[wispy jetty]

hmm.. thoughts on a fire lineup for the dragon event? i don't have floras artifact

[mental thunder]

Adphus, journ, tonalfan, flora, frurbath

[wispy jetty]

that makes it easier if I don't have to scroll up other legos besides flora

[mental thunder]

Isolde, vicuc/heksandra, rhash, felicity, errich (errich on accuracy set to hold witchs)

[wispy jetty]

do I need 2?

[mental thunder]

You do 6 per day

So whatever elements you can do the most damage with

[wispy jetty]

was assuming I'd do one of each element

[mental thunder]

Nope lol, 6 total

As much damage as you can do

[wispy jetty]

well, there's six elements

[mental thunder]

Yeah but you always going to mix affinity

[wispy jetty]

so, figured with the 5 man elemental bonus, picking hte best team from each element

[mental thunder]

Affinity is all you need not same element

[wispy jetty]

oh, i haven't been lol

[mental thunder]

Poison and fire same affinity 5/5

Frurbath + adolphus strongest combo in game

[wispy jetty]

like my poison team is lothair, durango, twitch, durango, and oggok, radiance is thelendor, plitho, lorenthal, acilia, and sagomir lol

[mental thunder]

Because you have the units

But thunder/radiance is same

Could do iola instead of sagomir

And that poison team could be going isolde over one of those two durango 😉

[wispy jetty]

can't really see that

[mental thunder]

The joke is you wrote durango twice and you cant use 2 of same

But why cant you see isolde in there?

[wispy jetty]

oh, sorry, meant erangar

err.. ergander

[mental thunder]

Isolde better tbh, she adds shield and defense bonus to surrounding allies

In that team of melees

[wispy jetty]

Parasol of Paradise is the secret lol

[mental thunder]

https://tenor.com/view/whale-whale-sharks-gif-26141114

https://tenor.com/view/haha-funny-lol-laughing-out-loud-giggle-gif-15515505

[wispy jetty]

well yeah, I'm pretty whalish

but unlike most whales, I'm working hard to learn the game 😛

albiet, I do need to sub in khyrysos for some fights where shields are an issue

[mental thunder]

Yeah khrysos could work instead of isolde obv

But you got like 4 fire/poison teams right in this convo

Meanwhile there are 4 other elements of heroes lol

[wispy jetty]

well, those are done 😛

albiet, getting ice to do enough damage will be interesting

[mental thunder]

Lossenia, ripelkas, felosia, elcebre, usha easy

🫣🤣

[wispy jetty]

heh. well, can do that pretty easy, but need a tank for the necro team if I use ripelkas lol.

[mental thunder]

Nah ripelkas can tank

Full defense and accuracy

[wispy jetty]

nah, meant that he's already with my necrosis team

[mental thunder]

Especially with felosia.

Oh lol, maybe irma then

[wispy jetty]

irma works, or eurion I guess

[mental thunder]

Eurion best tank in game

[wispy jetty]

eh, I prefer ergander or khyrsos, due to more utility but he's great

[mental thunder]

Idk where youd get attack down from though

Eurion does for 5s on battle skill i guess

Isk his recharge time though but if it is 10s would be fine with those supports

[wispy jetty]

Vinyara is the answer btw

for attack down

[mental thunder]

She really is but do you have her? If so replace felosia i think?

Because need elcebre heals

[wispy jetty]

yeah I do

between vinyara and elecebre, no ults will happen lol

but due to copper dragon mechanics, irma is probably the best tank

due to the ultimate recharge on her passive

[dark pike]

🙂

[limber reef]

Any tips on Tempest Domain 5? My lineup currently is Errich, Sigrid (mainly for HP regen debuff), Heks, Horrus. And traveler. I need to replace 1 cos I lack dps. I only reach 50% HP before timer runs out

[mental thunder]

Well errich alone is lackluster for a wild

Better to have a debuffer for sigrid

[visual storm]

Sooooo I used all my heros tonight .... 50 total 3 legendary now I feel like I need another rebuild lol

[visual storm]

Lol luck 3 out of 50

But seriously are poison teams strong ? The dots seem to tick kinda low but I only had rare poisoners till now

[onyx lintel]

Poison teams are all about the composition and skill sets tbh

Hardest teams to build by a lot

[onyx lintel]

The problem with poison teams is for most comps you need poisoners, generally 2 appliers and one nuke. It's very specific comps, and on top of that you need heavy gear requirements

But you got a great gobo aoe team with Holas, Dench, Twitch, and Sigrid

[visual storm]

Did you see the 2 new legends I picked up today during event ?

Oh twitch lol so yeah

[onyx lintel]

Twitch and Jalathea have pretty good synergy.

[honest falcon]

Anyone know how much accuracy is needed for vortex 3 and vortex 4?

[dull helm]

What should i use for rot?

[rich maple]

What about chest?

[mortal mountain]

don't need a tank for the dragon he does only aoe damage

[mortal mountain]

garius / thelendor / nathaniel / catherine / irina would work.

[atomic briar]

Is acilia/tamar/sutha/schaltar/tharivol a good pvp team? Garius over acilia?

[mental thunder]

garius, thelendor, catherine, nathanniel, sigrid (accuracy build for heal prevent). if you had nessa (radiance epic) replace sigrid with her (she does not need scrolls)

[mental thunder]

need to know what your roster looks like before suggesting

[mental thunder]

you can use both garius and acilia if you want... garius up front, acilia behind on a speed build so she gets cleanse/immunity up fast. tamar to debuff and then pick 2 dauntless. tharivol + 1, since he's an archer so sits in back safely. gotta be careful of jumpers countering you, so may wish to build tamar lowest HP but high defense in addition to accuracy to bait the jumpers

[dull helm]

I got trough 8 with this

[rich maple]

And just got her

[mental thunder]

looks like you have all the best rares except grover; he's the one i'd pick with rare selector. for epics the best are isolde (you have her), adolphus, frurbath, garius, voresh, schaltar, zadok (have), caraman, dallbam, tonalfan, rava, zharloth, deverick, thia, questa, irma.... and of those, garius, frurb, adolphus and voresh are considered the best of the best. i recommend saving the epic chest for another week or so and building a team with what you have already to work with.

sigrid, isolde, heksandra, fire main character, letalis. well rounded with debuffs, shields, heals and damage. will carry you to 70 easily and by the time you really need another team to farm fire/poison domain 3+ it will be another week and you'll have twice the heroes to work with.

[mental thunder]

yeah letalis can work in place of sigrid, but sigrid brings the attack down also. i'd use that radiant team with garius up front there and catherine for the debuff prevent

just need timings down and that team will be better

[dull helm]

Ah oke

[mental thunder]

i see wix suggested irina for a 5/5 affinity, and that should be fine too - dont need heal prevent if you have enough damage from thelendor

i like the heal prevent myself because it makes it less annoying when it sits there healing itself... but 5/5 affinity may give you the bonuses you need if your buffs are good to dps faster than it heals anyway

if you are too early game and your 5/5 buffs arent great, may just go with the heal prevent

[rich maple]

Ok I will wait some time with the chest I also can buy few rare and 1 epic artifact should I get something or wait as with the chest to see what champs I get?

[mental thunder]

#1180150041730617344 has a lot of that info for you

[rich maple]

Oh thanks brother and sorry I'm still noob in things like this. raid was little less complicated in some aspects but it's cool to learn the new game 😅

[atomic briar]

Thank you i likw this idea. Spped build for acilia would be to focus on skill haste stat?

[mental thunder]

that's what i do with her in arena, i make her fast so she ults to cleanse and immunity so it stops 75% of the sigrids out there

target like 50 skill haste on her for that and make sure she is scrolled

here is mine

under 11s by a little bit is where you want to be; just check the voresh and sigrids you go in to fight on offense first; if sigrid is under 11s her animation is faster and she will kill you anyway

[atomic briar]

Amazing thanks. 2 dauntless u thino tharival and sutha or schaltar? I guess schaltar would synergize better?

[mental thunder]

yes schaltar + tharivol imo

depends on your gear and positioning; i'd make alph tanky and position near isolde so errich only attacks the two of them

[lunar cradle]

Hi. I am on a really new server and I reset all my heros before event ended, any advice on which teams are best to start with, I only have enough exp to take 6 to 90.

Perhaps I should take 3-5 teams up to 70 instead of 1 team to 90?

Assume all heroes unlocked from season 1.

I see a lot of build guides for rares and epics but wondering what optimal builds would be if legendaries were not an issue.

[dark pike]

done I finish this secund team leveling so lets test

[hollow plume]

Witches aren't a huge deal, they just speed the run up

[dark pike]

thay make lvl 3 ice

[azure stump]

how come when i put this on, it doesnt change my skill cd when i check the timer?

trying to see who goes first in arena and my support wearing this skill timer doesnt change = /\

[noble jackal]

should i be using epic box on tonalnan or voresh?

[latent isle]

its bugged af

[twin pilot]

is the jump from venom 8 to 9 very big

[mental thunder]

not terribly; it is all on your main tank

[twin pilot]

hmmm

i guess i should farm 8 for abit more and go back and farm tank gear so i can do 9 later?

[barren night]

Depends who you could use more atm. I have Voresh but voresh can be replaced with multiple other hero’s. Tonolan seems to be the same deal.

[twin pilot]

i suppose i lack too much defense

[mental thunder]

tanks it fine, so if you can get similar defense numbers you are good

i'd say 4000 defense is fine

yours would get roflstomped i think within 5 seconds

[twin pilot]

dont have the defense % chest

guess i should go farm better tank gear and attempt 9 after

[barren night]

Farm the heck out of lvl 8 till you get the gear needed

[twin pilot]

but that's for dps right

not sure if this is ok for starters but what sigrit has on for now

[barren night]

They have a set that works well with support and tank characters and it’s the easiest of the dungeons to raid at that level

[twin pilot]

oh which set?

[mental thunder]

not bad

suggest moving her to platinum knight set eventually though for more ult damage

executioner only good against bosses; plat knight good vs everything

[twin pilot]

ah ok

which other sets from venom can i use on my team though

on curse im stuck on 7

[barren night]

Troll set is good for support and tanks. I have my Sigrid in gambler set and get crazy damag

[mental thunder]

@hollow plume went from 50 +/- 5 to 82 in one day of dragon doodoo scoring

https://tenor.com/view/pepe-why-pepe-pepehands-crying-gif-12683546

wrong channle but w/e

[twin pilot]

what sets should i run for adrie hek and grover

[hollow plume]

top 150 is all you need 🥳

[twin pilot]

also should i swap this team or is it ok for curse

[mental thunder]

i know but still lol

[mental thunder]

who is the top thunder hero?

and adrie needs to be up next to heks or she deddo

need to be in proximity of tank for shields right?

[barren night]

Troll set and focus on accuracy for Grover. But I would swap Grover out on venom team and try and get either Meghan or another healer

[mental thunder]

oh is that grover

that's his curse team @barren night

[twin pilot]

yes grover

[mental thunder]

he has strip and shields, so as long as grover landing defense down should be ok for curse

[barren night]

Ah misread

[twin pilot]

dont i need a strip

[mental thunder]

that is grover, strips buffs

you dont NEED shield removal if you have shields + attack down timed to reduce damage

his shield is based on damage done, gotta strip + shields + attack down and his shield is small

makes the battle longer but w/e, as long as you are consistently timing the debuffs/strips/shields you win

[twin pilot]

adrie kinda

makes the timing wonky

[summer lynx]

@mental thunder dude I'm voting for you to be a helper I see you everywhere lol respect 👍

[mental thunder]

i was a helper, they took it away lol

[mental thunder]

i have a potty mouth for snowflake censorship 🫣

[summer lynx]

Wtf why I actually thought you had but I wasn't sure lol

[twin pilot]

can i form a better team?

[mental thunder]

lol he says showing his adolphus...

[summer lynx]

Lmao I see 🙈

[twin pilot]

i thought he wasnt as good as khrysos since he does attack down and shields

[barren night]

Checkout hhneve on YouTube. He’s got a great video on time setup for teams

[mental thunder]

frurbath, adolphus, khrysos, sigrid, grover zzzzz

adolphus passive allows him to heal when he applies shield to someone shielded, khrysos doubles down on the shields and attack down

[shy trail]

@mental thunder Hi, I've just read your pinned new player guide. Thanks for making that, very helpful. I am also very interested in some progression and efficiency tips please. I currently have MC/Heksandra/Horrus/Sigrid/Irina up to level 90 as my main team. I can do level 5 Venom, level 3 Curse, and level 2 of Goblin 2 with that team, stuck on level 20 Fey Meander poison Boss. I have Zhar'loth, Sifris, Usha, Meggan, Quarion, Enna, Grover, Dench, Eli, and Letalis level 1 only atm as some heros available for new teams. I have about 4500 wyrmarrow...hoping to save for purchasing Heliolite dice. Probably stuck at level 3 Flame Domain (haven't tried since reset period ended, was using Enna and Quarion then)? I think level 100 heros and stage 7 Venom should be next goals??? If not, what should be? If so, how do I get there from here as a f2p player? Also posting in the dragon-lineup-help thread in case this would be good for the whole community to see your response.

[mental thunder]

if you dont mind filtering your heroes by element and dropping screenshots of each element roster here i can build you teams for each dungeon and goblins

[twin pilot]

like this?

oh wait no hek

[mental thunder]

i'd put sigrid next to khrysos

[shy trail]

great thanks, be back in a bit, but interested in knowing what order to do things for efficiency-sake too please!

[twin pilot]

ok, for adolphus and grover, do i gear them dps with accuracy?

[mental thunder]

use grover for now but eventually replace him with this guy with no scrolls if you ge thim

[mental thunder]

adolphus is enlightenment + attack + hp/defense, little crit if you can manage it

grover is just all accuracy and make tanky enough to survive the aoe

everyone needs to be 40k hp for curse 9 eventually or else you wipe if there are any mistakes on timings/strips

[twin pilot]

any set in particular?

[mental thunder]

just get the stats where you can

400 enlightenment on adolphus is where i'd focus

[mental thunder]

this is what mine looks like

[shy trail]

looks like some of the heros got cut off unless you click on the individual elements, do you need me to redo the pics?

[twin pilot]

lol im far from that

what arti for frubath of khrysos is using banner

oh i guess with max crown he will be at 400

he has no arti now

[lilac slate]

what is the best build for Shagrol and Forbirt guys?

[mental thunder]

scarab actually scales defense better than banner eventually once they are both +20

and you can run incense on frurb to speed up his ult timer for debuff uptime, candle to speed his battle skill (for healing) or shield just to boost his stats and reduce aoe damage

[late fox]

Very new player just looking for guidance on story progression teams. I still have a rare selection chest to open.

[mental thunder]

forbrit is trash, dont touch him... shagrol is a dauntless so you want 100% crit, high attack and attack speed. recommend using horseshoe on him and executioner set for pvp; gambler for pve

[twin pilot]

ah ok

i seem to be able to survive but cant get the timing right

[mental thunder]

#1180150041730617344 is where you need 🙂 let me know if you need any other info

[lilac slate]

i see but for now i hust have forbrit for tank

[late fox]

Thanks! I’ll start there!

[mental thunder]

but.... he isnt actually a tank. read his skill details. nothing scales on defense + he offers no actual healing, shielding or debuffs beyond a short aoe stun (which does nothing to any bosses because they are immune). you got newbie scammed like everyone else thinking because he looks tanky that he is a tank - he isnt, he is an attack based damage dealer

reset that doodoo quickly

horrus is free

[lilac slate]

i see ok i well check it thx for the help

[vital bramble]

So it is my first Uthior event and I was thinking of the following line-ups. Thoughts please?:

Fire: journ Adolfus rhash errich Horrus
Radiance: tathlyn, philto, Martina, Catherine, Iola
Poison: Sigrid, Corrin, letalis, Heks, Frurbart
Lightning: Tamar, Garius, Garett, Tharivol, shaltar
Frost: dallbam, Voresh, Auster, Usha, MCFrost
Necro: Thia, Meggan, Irma, Adrie, Deverick, gladros

Could put Eli instead of Corrin, I may need a healer in the frost line up. My necrotic line up is awful…

[atomic briar]

Hey @mental thunder what you recommend for curse of venom team?

[tough mauve]

Corpse explosion is getting me good. Any tips? In mostly epic/some rare gear

[lunar gale]

Draw him to the back, don't put your tank in his face

Positioning is key

[visual storm]

Is the krysos Adolphus synergy as good as it looks on paper ?

[mental thunder]

grave of venom or curse? curse of venom is what you said 😛

[atomic briar]

LOL! Oops meant venom

But why not both

[mental thunder]

for venom you can go:
horrus, sigrid, twitch, heksandra, vicuc and should be fine. just put your tankier healer just below horrus in middle and spread out the rest of the team

curse you can go ripelkas, ice MC, voresh, elcebre, usha

[visual storm]

Like with Adolphus over shield healing could this guy replace fur ball on my vortex team?

[atomic briar]

Ty ty

[mental thunder]

or garius, tamar, schaltar, tharivol, sutha and just burn him down in 2 turns

[atomic briar]

I wil go with this one as iv investrd in them already loll

[mental thunder]

tamar holds your crown/witch remains

if it isnt working, drop sutha and go with irina for multiple strips. shook or grover would be even better there; and if you had nathaniel or ichiucatl, better still. ichiu in place of sutha and keep the rest i already gave you as a team and should be easy win

[atomic briar]

Thx so mych as always!

[visual storm]

Finally got a frost applier, now drizzt/ Usha are so much more usable is there a good frost or necro non legendary tank ?

[violet raft]

Edgar?

[mental thunder]

edgar and loris. loris for bosses imo since he brings attack down II

but also dallbam and irma

but you'll need to bring attack down II somewhere else if you use either of them

[tough mauve]

I don’t get what you mean by draw him to the back. What position should I change to?

[mental thunder]

move all your units to the back bottom corner so that he approaches them outside the necro buff range of the map?

[tough mauve]

Omg I’m an idiot. I literally did not realize that buff zone was there

Thank you lol

[tough mauve]

Fwiw I’m colorblind and thought that was just terrain of the map but not a buff node

[visual storm]

Ty I'll look into it messing around with it in arena ...omg lol frost seems so much more dps heavy than my wild

[zinc nest]

may I get some help for Lighting - Radiance Pillar of Trials.
Stuck at 48. Would like to clear at least 50.

[graceful hinge]

My hero pool at account lvl 21... Any tips before hero reset expires?

[lime wasp]

Picked hero's are fine 👍

[onyx lintel]

I'm stuck at this exact spot

[zinc nest]

Meant to be funny. Btw..

[onyx lintel]

Basically yeah, gonna try it again soon but even manual I just get destroyed and tbh idk what is even doing the damage

[zinc nest]

Donellas bird mostly doing the dmg

[onyx lintel]

I've been trying with Iola Garius Nathaniel and whatever other 2, still get beat. I'm thinking that the only way I'm gonna beat it is stack stun sets and get lucky

[zinc nest]

You got Iola. That's huge.
Try to Perma stun donella, use other two AoE with Hunter set, one could be Irina.
And let me know how It goes

[plush thicket]

Sutha, Ivelios, Iola with Witch/Crown, Garius, and pick a healer/shielder. Single target down stuff with Sutha after Iola gives them def down. Basically the last several levels of Lit/Rad are doable if you just focus down the problems asap. If you had Catherine Id say use her to avoid debuffs.

What legendary artis do you have (if any?)

Just noticed no Iola. Hang on

[zinc nest]

None c:

[plush thicket]

Its basically gumm or shaggy for crown application man.

Like Im stuck on Frost 50, Ive got one last hail mary tonight.

[onyx lintel]

I have Catherine and she doesn't ult fast enough for me to not get f'd, whole team is scrolled too lol

[zinc nest]

Sadly Gumm has zero skill ups and shaggy only 2.

I've had the most chances for frost 50 with Ripekas, Auster, Meggan, Zharloth and Voresh.
Still some RNG involved . Pretty close to give up

[plush thicket]

and @onyx lintel its all I got boys. I was trying to do it with aoe characters and the second I swapped to sutha+ivelios and focusing down problem mobs I was able to get through it.

[plush thicket]

My next try is similar, except with better stun gear from rot - and no auster. If I had Auster Id be done.

[zinc nest]

I'll try again tomorrow after getting some Lego scrolls, and increasing his chances of landing stuff.

[onyx lintel]

I'll try Ivellios and Nimbus later

[zinc nest]

Thankies I'll try to focus fire and push

[shy trail]

redid the pics to show all heroes without having to click each element

[mental thunder]

ok replying to original comment so i can quick click to see what your needs were; thanks for the screenshot clarity ❤️ helps me out not having to put it all in ms paint myself lol

so you want basically a fire/poison domain team; goblins; venom, rot, curse but mostly venom for a start

starting with goblins which is the easiest:
sigrid, eli, letalis, dench, horrus with skills turned off or usha using bracelet for self helaing when she kills something. sigrid is your main damage; usha also damage but usha also some defense so she is tanky...

for fire/poison, fritz for cleanse, meggan heals, zharloth heals, loris tank usha. loris gives you the attack down, you have plenty of healing; just need to time frizt ult for before boss ults so he full cleanses everyone and easy peasy, usha solo dps there but zharloth should prob do decent damage for you also.

basic progression/boss team: sigrid, horrus, heksandra, eli, sifris. build eli accuracy > attack > crit%

for venom you can use that same progression team. horrus straight ahead of boss using scarab or banner artifact; heksandra just below him to take the lower orb attacks; sifris at the top front line (can also use meggan here, but it does break 5/5 affinity); elia and sigrid straight back in a line from horrus at the back - in a line one behind other so that they are both targeting boss only

should be easy peasy and highly dependent on your tank stats. eventually you want horrus to be on 4000-5000 defense and ~80k hp and he'll survive 9 on auto

[balmy spoke]

@mental thunder I was wondering if I could get feedback. Is this my most optimal team for temporal vortex? I’m trying to get to Lvl 4.

[graceful hinge]

I have two selector chests btw.
Epic and Rare. Any recommendations to help optimise my line?

[mental thunder]

probably, you will want to gear auster for accuracy 225-250, crit rate and then as much damage and attack as possible...

[mental thunder]

rare selector pick meggan if you dont have her; quarion is also a good pick, as is enna but meggan is prob the best of the 3 heals. the epic selector probably wait another week on

[graceful hinge]

Hmmm okay. Was kinda aiming to take advantage of the hero reset that's about to expire.

Or do you know how much it'd cost to reset a hero?

[wispy jetty]

Mrow, what do you think of this copper dragon team setup?

[mental thunder]

it costs nothing to resset them early like you are; and like SFB already said; your picks of hero leveling arent wasted - good choices so far. dont need to reset anyone 🙂 unless you put scrolls on someone you shouldnt have...

[balmy spoke]

Thank you

[graceful hinge]

Okay lovely.

I've only put scrolls on Sigrid.

[tough mauve]

Any tips on the cobweb of death? Runspeed food?

[wispy jetty]

are you talking with the spider?

[balmy spoke]

Do I do the same for Usha?

[tough mauve]

You can talk to the spider that chases you? The thing always catches me after the little cutscene where it says lure to the bridge, but I can’t beat it in a fight

[wispy jetty]

you basically have to beat it, it gets stunned, then you run in front of it

at least that's what I did

[mental thunder]

no you want damage on usha; auster enables usha to do the damage but you want him also dealing damage too... they should both be wearing gambler gear sets

[dry storm]

Trying to get through ancient battlefield 9 and Heretical ruins 9. For ancient, I have a 300 resistance hero in the back, a tank, dps, two healer/cleansers, no one who is applying buffs. But my healing can’t keep up with the damage. I’m assuming my defense is too low but I think that’s the issue. Any idea how high defense I need? Maybe I need a shielder too?

[mortal mountain]

shielder is good especially adolphus or can use mc ice, but also bringing atk penalty 2 is huge for that boss

do you have frurbath / adolphus?

both of those + sigrid + heksandra in back + another dps is good for that dungeon

[dry storm]

Wish I had adolphus. I’m using frurbath, heksandra, sigrid, and voresh currently and trying to find a better 5th. I used Vinyara but she puts defense 2 up and then the boss eats it for a buff. I tried main character as ice but his shield is weak

Tempted to level up Dubok

[mortal mountain]

how are you positioning for the fight?

everybody getting frur healing? Does frur have max defense build / good artifact for healing?

also you will want to put def% chests on everybody even the dps and often defense mainstat runes if you don't need the accuracy

start with building everybody more tanky and see how the damage lines up

if you have tonalnen or errich built they are good for damage since they match affinity.

and I imagine you are blocking the atk up every round with voresh

[plush thicket]

I use voresh to keep the boss from buffing every round or I get annihilated. If he doesn't cleanse the buffs the first round I basically just restart.

Fru is also set to Attack down his ulti for like 6? or more rounds with where his skill haste is at (25), and voresh has 30 skill haste, and can usually go for 6-8 rounds till he falls behind. Fru also has a 3pc ancestral set on and 4300 defense, BUT, I was defintiely doing AB 9 when he was at about 3700, just whoa it was scary close a lot and I had to swap my dps to defense gear pieces.

I use sifris with her ulti off because she heals for more than other healer choices: #1155731189966061598 message

Fru's passive keeps her alive usually.

[dry storm]

Ok thanks, I will try to get the defense up on everyone.

When I get home I will@post my setup. Just sat down for dinner

[lunar cradle]

Is it better for me to unlock multiple teams to 70 or 1 team to 90

[plush thicket]

For the start of the game you wont need more than 2 teams:

1. Your main/strongest team for clearing content.
2. A team with different affinity to clear team #1's elemental dungeon for crystals to level your main team.

When you hit underground, you'll want a 3rd team to clear out the 3 team fights.

For the utior event, you'll want 6 3, then 4, then 5, then 6 teams to challenge the bosses weekly (it goes up by 1 challenge a week). If you don't care about utior or are willing to just buy the crystals don't worry too hard here.

When you hit snowland, you'll want at least 6 teams for the bosses and the final copper dragon (this is in the last month)

[lunar cradle]

I dm you more info for clarification.

[mental thunder]

so i just did my 6 copper dragon teams today and managed 30-50m on 4 of them and my last 2 teams were trash tier. let me take a look and i'll DM you

[onyx lintel]

Do you have Catherine? Catherine over Nathaniel gonna make your runs more consistent

The #1 main mechanic to the whole thing is managing the recharge speed reduction

[pulsar creek]

I cant pass this stage! Anyone with idea how to beat it ? I included some champions i have .

[mortal mountain]

how much hp is left after phiilto and huberg nuke them?

[pulsar creek]

Garrika cuts in before the nuks. but sometimes when the nuke goes off. its half . I normally would one shot everything up until now

[mortal mountain]

got stun sets on?

[pulsar creek]

Yes.

ah I will try that

Does the stun set require accuracy to land ?

[mortal mountain]

yeah

could put it on tamar and lorentheel since they both have aoe battleskills

possibly on huberg too and space out his nuke cuz his ulti is many hits

might be able to get back around to another phiilto ult

[pulsar creek]

Got it. My tammar is not scrolled but i will try it and see.

Thanks mate! Been trying to beat it since the morning lol

[wispy jetty]

I'm sort of lost how catherine affects the recharge speed based on her skill set

[onyx lintel]

Her ult is team wide debuff immune

The main mechanic for the boss is the recharge speed reduc he places on the team

Working your timings around that is very hard to hit the def breaks and fountain buff if you do not immune it or cleanse it immediately

[dry storm]

Yeah so I have some legend gear but waiting for the enhanced drop on my server that starts in 2 days to farm gear that I can cherry pick from. So not everyone has def% stats on their gear yet. In terms of Frur healing position, I think he gets everyone except for Heksandra in the back, who is my 300 resist hero. But she usually dies last anyway. I’m having problems keeping frurbath alive sadly.

[dry storm]

I will review that pin, thanks. It definitely seems like I need to visit my def significantly

[plush thicket]

My general end game rule is 1400-1600 def, 40-50k health on DPS. 1400 and 40k is cutting it CLOSE with dps.

[plain anchor]

I would like to know the best team including pvp Hvitar.

[mental thunder]

elcebre, lossenia, vinyara, hvitar, felosia?

[wispy jetty]

I dunno if it's the best team, but this is who I use. Trolgar, lucien, hvitar elecbre, felosia for offense

[mental thunder]

https://tenor.com/view/hehe-hee-smile-steve-harvey-gif-7550012

[wispy jetty]

lucien/trolgar jump and take out backrow, hvitar finish, elecbre charms/felosia keeps everyone alive

[dry storm]

Elcebre is general pull exclusive right?

[wispy jetty]

I mean, so are a ton of units that haven't been in any of the selectable pulls

[plain anchor]

thank you
I will try as you suggested.

[wispy jetty]

that'll lack dps, but good luck 🙂

[mental thunder]

he didnt say defense or offense 😉

[plain anchor]

thank you!!

[wispy jetty]

I'm not tops on my server, but am in the top 5 lol

on def, garrika, is sooo god damn broken

[plain anchor]

Wow, top 5 is amazing.

[plush thicket]

Ooof makin me do math. Okay so:

Your gear is the problem. If you're cool with it, PM me, we have a lot to talk about in terms if gear needs. You need to live in Venom and Curse for a while.

[wispy jetty]

is it bad, that I'm running.. the exact same team for every dungeon at this point cause I'm lazy lol

[full field]

Hello guys . Is there a possible better line up for me than my current team ?

[mental thunder]

lorentheel, garius, philto, iola, enna/quarion/catherine/martina/wellby - last slot changes as needed

[plain anchor]

I'm trying to rank a dungeon with difficulty level 9 and low rarity.
Is there a recommended combination??
All epic rares are in stock.

[mental thunder]

What about curse with a mixed team? Grover, berrick, quarion, evania, gerana?

@plain anchor could work. Barrier, 2 strips, attack down, defense up and heals, burst damage

[plain anchor]

Isn't it okay to use low rarity rankings up to epic?
Would it be best to make everything rare?

The combination currently being planned is
Shink + Horace + Corrin + Frurbath + Sigrid/Eli.

[sharp pendant]

Up to 20m on frost but 25m feels impossible. Lossenia Auster Eurion Usha Torrin

[visual storm]

Who should I use to tank for a frost team?

Looking for the event boss thing

[visual storm]

Anything ?

[onyx lintel]

Irma

[strange plank]

good morning ok so i know i hve had advice about vortex before but anyone able to advice me again on a better team cos i keep getting this score,also here is an updated roster

i dont mind lvling anyone either

[peak crystal]

Need help for stage 4 venom line up.I have enna heks drizzt shook martina garius rava

[visual storm]

Post pics of ur Champs by element pls

[scenic sage]

Yoo is Dane usefull for ABF9? Im struggling with this dungeon so much, hard to get gerana at the right accuracy, haste, atkspd and defense

[dark pike]

Hi pls help me, what line up should I make? And also i have draft box, which hero is best to choose?

[mental thunder]

Lol dude. Fire main character is trash mid tier unit, there is a third your problem in vortex. Another third is no shields, and finally unreliable defense/attack down. Yes frurb and dane do attack down II but remember they are single hit ults… So less chances to land the debuff even if you have a ton of accuracy on dane and frurb. If you are relying on sigrid for a third attack down, that means she has too much accuracy for an attacker on vortex and your damage is too low. You have a lot of tools to work with so let’s addrees those issues.

Shields. I see adolphus sitting there at 90. Build that man! Replace heksandra.

Defense down… i see durango sitting there at 70 and i am greatly saddened. Build him! Give him your defense down artifact! Immediately.

Damage… replace sigrid with eli. Durango will be your poison applier since you are building him high accuracy for defense down anyway, expect him to land those poisons… so this means you build eli enlighten, attack, crit% and crit damage and not worry about accuracy. Gambler set on them both. Durango very stat hungry, you want him high accuracy and enlighten (200-250 acc, 400 enlighten), as well as high attack, 100% crit and as much damage as you can get on him… very stat hungry. Needs that 100% crit.

This does not address your attack down issue. You are going to need frurb sitting at 4000 defense and 250 accuracy, 80k+ hp. He needs to land attack down. Also since we ditched heks, he needs good skill haste and attack speed (his basic attacks have a chance to cleanse and you will need it on vortex IV). Use scarab artifact on him.

Adolphus you build 400 enlighten then as much attack as you can get while making him tanky enough to survive and a lot of skill haste to cycle his ults.

[mental thunder]

#1180150041730617344 should help get you started

Wait a few more days to a week before using your rare selector chest. So far you have vicuc and isolde + fire main character… you can build dench as well. That leaves you with a 5th slot and not a lot to choose from… for now slot zharloth or martina; they will be useful later.

[scenic sage]

Does Skill Haste reduce battle skill cooldown?

[mental thunder]

think so

battle skills are really fast already though, so hard to realize any big difference

[visual storm]

Jhorn has been my God send vortex

Atk down,def up, ultimately boost for entire team. Would be hard to replace him but I do think I need a more reliable def down in his place

[jagged crag]

can anyone help me with strong party for Vortex and 3 party for Pillar of Trial? currently do 5kk to vortex II

[elder swift]

I got Schaltar and Shagrol, and all the lightning rares and I want to make a dauntless team around them, how should I build a team out of that?
For tanking I have Garius, I guess there's no better option is there?

[atomic briar]

Is vicana any good for gobos with twitch and sigrid? Using holas right now and he seens pretty mehh

[mental thunder]

Shook, lorentheel, wellby, garius + nathaniel or ichiucatl when you get them…

Hochadir, voresh, usha, meggan, ice MC (lacks attack down; replace voresh with deverick eventually)

Gareth, heksandra, errich, raphe, sigrid… replace heks with vicuc, sigrid with adolphus, gareth with frurbath

[mental thunder]

Schaltar and shagrol are it; the rare dauntless stinky. Garius, some shielder like ichiucatl or nathaniel + a debuffer like irina or iola

[elder swift]

So no main?

[mental thunder]

Why? You said dauntless team

[elder swift]

Yeah but I thought main is always useful

[mental thunder]

You thought wrong lol

I mean he isnt BAD but his damage going to be less than either of those dauntless and he has no debuffs or heals

= useless in that team

[elder swift]

I don't have any decent rally and Darius is fully built and I recently got Schaltar so I thought I should try and build around them, and I don't have a lightning/radiant team

So if I'm using Schaltar or Shagrol I might as well use at least one other right?

[mental thunder]

You use both

[elder swift]

For Ancient Battlefield could I use that team as is or do I need to use one of the buff strippers like Grover?

[mental thunder]

For ancient battlefield you are using nothing on that team haha

[vernal bison]

hi i just got Hvitar help me to build team for chief challenge

i'm so happy with my luck

[elder swift]

Oh haha I thought you need single target dps healing and buff removal for battlefield, and one ranged with high resistance, is it something else?

[mental thunder]

yeah, NO BUFFS on your team

[severe cedar]

Hi guysm i need a comp for necrotic damage boss - Thelendor
Please, thank you

[shy trail]

how much resistance is needed on Fitz to resist all burns from flame domain stage 5 boss lady?

[tough mauve]

Where is Iola better than irina? They look like their kit is almost the exact same and irina has 4 targets hit on battle skill…

[zinc nest]

Everywhere

[mortal mountain]

Iola has crowd control and a 3-hit ultimate to apply defense down artifact better

also diamond-shaped ultimate instead of 3x3

I still used them both together for most content to keep up atk penalty fulltime on things

[strange plank]

@mental thunder i cant thank you enough man cos u hve so much patiente with me and again thxs for explaining everything i will defo get on that asap.

[mental thunder]

np man, understanding is better than flailing 🙂 happy to help[

[grave pelican]

Hey, Guys! Today is my last day to reset the characters and I can't decide wich choose. I still have the box for select rare heroes.
A good first team would be MC, Horrus, Heks, Sigrid and Dench? Or MC, Horrus, Heks, Ulsha and Other debuffer?
I saw a lot of guys talking about Enna and Irina, but I dont have either. Wich one is best for pick up on the rare box selector? Thanks!

[tough mauve]

Both Enna irina are good, and you have the two big rares usha and Sigrid. I think most common advice is wait to week 2 to see what else drops before using selector chest.

For first team I would go with horrus sigrid letalis MC heks (letalis over dench for more versatile debuffs)

[shy trail]

wow, you got a super nice start!

anyone know how much resist is needed for stage 5 flame domain boss to resist the burns?

[elder swift]

If I manage to grave of venom 9 on manual, what stages should I expect/be aiming for right now for ruins and battlefield? 7? Or lower?

[grave pelican]

If I cant have Irina or Enna in week 2, wich one is best? Enna for dispel in area? I'll take your suggestion for the first team and focus on them for now. Thanks a lot for the help! 🙏

[jagged crag]

Irina require books

[tough mauve]

Irina is more general use, but enna is pretty essential in debuff dispel content like fire dungeon. Tbh I’d wait until you hit a point where you need a debuff dispel and you don’t have it, or you need att debuff with extra aoe damage.

I for sure use Irina more (just got Iola so might change soon) but I got both on like day 2 so not sure I could have gotten through fire/poison crystal farming without enna. My gut reaction is enna to progress on fire dungeon which is your main team

[tough mauve]

I also see that you have fitz who is a pretty good rare option for dealing with debuffs. Tbh you’re off to a really solid start

[grave pelican]

@tough mauve I think the same as you, man. Sigrid "can" do the damage role over Irina, but Enna is OP for this type of dungeon. I'll wait for week 2 and decide whats best. Is fitz good cause he take the debuffs from allies? Thanks again! This community is nice with new players ❤️

[elder swift]

Is there any way to set up Eli for an auto goblin run so he always stays in the middle? My team is him, main fire, Sigrid, Horrus and Dench, and he keeps running off to the side after the 2nd or 3rd wave

[tough mauve]

Sigrid and Usha will be your main damage for a long time. Like they are top tier damage even when you consider legendary heroes. A good tip is when you look at a dungeon, go into the recommended lineup and see what heroes other people are using. that gives a good indicator of what works on each dungeon

[tough mauve]

Fitz is really good in fire dungeon (enna is also) because the main mechanic of that boss is put burn debuffs on your heroes and then her ult explodes the burns for lots of damage. So units that dispel debuffs like enna or fitz who takes all the debuffs into himself and then can self dispel debuff is essential. And you need to farm that dungeon a lot early for your first main team which is almost always fire/poison (they give you horrus and heks for free, which is a huge leg up)

[visual storm]

Need a hand coming up with2 more teams for the boss fights in event I've already run a fire team

[tough mauve]

Turn off horrus ult which makes him sit still for a while. Eli will likely still run off to the side sometimes but it will be better

[mental thunder]

i'm not getting any sadder seeing that screenshot of lorentheel level 1

[grave pelican]

@tough mauve I'll focus on the fire/poison team first with heroes like MC, Horrus, Heks, Sigrid, Letalis and after doing it, I'll focus on Usha, Enna(when I get her) and Fitz. Do you think its best to go with first team full 100 or I can make them lv 70 for example and level up the otheres? Said that cause i'm stuck in Ooze Monster.

[mental thunder]

you shouldnt be burning stamina at low level goblins first off

just stick with the team you have as long as it is a balanced team and is in all blue gear now that you have beaten the dragon

ooze monster is easy with 3/4 items and too easy with 4/4

just burn daily stamina but not stam items until you are in the next area

[visual storm]

If I get a solid dps for radiant he's on my list

Do we know season 2 elements yet ?

[tough mauve]

You’ll have to build a second team later, but I think you can get to 70 with just your main fire/poison team. Later you’ll want a second team to beat higher levels of the fire dungeon (probably want cold/necro team with usha DPS and fitz tank, maybe enna and another healer and another DPS… but you can make that team when your main team can’t beat the next fire dungeon level)

[mental thunder]

you have wellby and martina

[visual storm]

I use them in team arena

[mental thunder]

and it is frost/radiance, necro/fire, poison/thunder i believe

[visual storm]

Frost radiance has some potential:)

[grave pelican]

Thanks a lot for the help, guys! I'll focus on your tips. You're doing a great job with noobs like me 😂 @tough mauve @mental thunder

[elder swift]

Yeah I do that already, with ult on I get wiped. The problem is he also stands still with his battle skill

And I don't have any other tank

[tough mauve]

Tbh I switched to a different tank (I use Philto who moves to the side bc of horrus for the same reason)

[mortal mountain]

I'd go for irina. Main team horrus / heksandra / mc fire / sigrid / irina (build irina tankier due to not having the innate 3-element bonus.

you can use that team for pretty much everything in the early to midgame, swapping out a unit here and there. Also for goblins usha / irina / sigrid / mc fire is a strong combination +1 somebody with more debuffs or a bit of healing like voresh / zhar'loth / letalis / or another fire champ to make 3-element to boost sigrid damage

Ah I see some more of your champions now and you have frurbath and adolphus. Won't really need irina so much, but she is still solid for goblins to set up sigrid and give her a shield to proc music box artifact, which is really strong early when you are starving for crit rate.

Frurbath / Adolphus / Sigrid / MC Fire / Heksandra will be a really strong team that can clear almost any dungeons. If you happen to get a tonalnen you are pretty much set.

[weak forge]

So am I correct in thinking the best gear for holas is the attack speed gear with attack primary and critical secondary/skill haste

[grave pelican]

@mortal mountain I used frurbath in some dungeons, but changed again to horrus because the damage mitigation/shield/taunt. I'll try the Adolphus guy, just pull out on summons and never tried. I saw some videos of Irina; She's very OP for a rare character like Sigrid and Ulsha. Do you think Enna is primary for flame domain? or saw others characters like Fitz for the job (remove debuff)? Anyway, I'll wait week 2 to decide and make the secure choice. Thanks for the help, bro!

[tough mauve]

Should I be lvl 100s before getting legendary gear? My heks and sig are dying in venom (all lvl 90s with epic gear)

[mental thunder]

No but it sounds like you are trying venom 8 or dont have the stats for it

Can farm lego gear with 90s on 8

4000 defense

[tough mauve]

Whiffing on venom 7. I can clear venom 6 and am all epic gear all 90s

[mental thunder]

But what are your stats

For venom 8 horrus needs like 3500-4000 defense and like 60-70k hp

[tough mauve]

Horrus has 2.1k defense

[mental thunder]

Back to curse you go?

[tough mauve]

Almost 60k hp

[mental thunder]

Defense main hands and body, defense main runes and hp subs at 90

Defense %

[tough mauve]

Is the general progression curse -> venom -> stage 5 elemental ?

[mental thunder]

You only need to farm curse for one tank

Venom for a couple dps

[elder swift]

How should I build dorkuraz? Haste and accuracy sets?

[stable rover]

Should I replace Catherine with yagnatz or vani (feels like no dmg rn) and put quarion as 2nd tank on cat square?

It's 9m rn, need 11

[royal token]

What are some decent teams for f3p players? I'm getting stuck with my lvl 90 team. But maybe I'm just picking the wrong team.

[mortal mountain]

cleanse is nice for flame domain early on but not necessary, you can clear it with a combination of defense up + atk down as well, but yeah if you have fitz or enna they do the trick.

Once you're far enough you don't even care about the mechanics anymore cuz you'll blow it up

[strange plank]

@mental thunder srryme again u did not suggest the fifth champ to takei presume it is a damage dealer so who should i take so far u hve said durango,frurb,eli and adolphus so who should i make fifth one???

[strange plank]

@mental thunder so took your advice and chnged frurb for horrus but as u can see i am only getting 1 star is this just down to gear now???? and should i stay in goblin II cos i can do stage 5 in there??? (srry it is you i always ask)

[peak crystal]

I need help for curse,venom and rot stage 4 and above team pls

[alpine egret]

any tips on how to clear this at Fey meander?

[stable rover]

Guys, I have two unscrolled teams in mind, which one seems more probable to deal 11m otherworld? Necro - gaiolere, Irma, Zadok, zhar +1 OR Posion - vicana, drench, talwer Echoes +1?

I could actually full scroll gaio or vicana tbh, got around 17 unused, but no epic scrolls

[latent isle]

Talwer? Why....

[stable rover]

Ult penalty, atk penalty, some tankiness + poison stqcks and I have no one else

[atomic briar]

Struggling with grave of venom 5 - is my team good enlugh? Is it just a matter of getting the rest to 90v

Not sure what to do as my blue gesr is alright already

[stable rover]

After 2 fire 11m and poison 22m*

Blue gear? Must be epic already

[atomic briar]

Well this is what i need to farm for epic gear lol

I guess tier 4 but i only get like 4 stones at a time for that one. Seems like s waste of stam

[stable rover]

Strange. Check accuracy on sigrid so she can atk penalty

[atomic briar]

Oo will do

Accuracy 60 - i fuess i should target higer?

[autumn moss]

Best rare for philto

[mental thunder]

share roster and we can help. also go read my #1180150041730617344 guide

[mental thunder]

positioning too. move vicuc to far top front row and then put sigrid straight back from horrus in front of twitch... any wonder you arent surviving when one of your dps is shooting an orb the whole time and not boss? and yeah dude no attack down from sigrid is a death sentence. change positioning and try again. make sure horrus is defense% main body and hands and defense% subs + using banner or level 10+ scarab.

[atomic briar]

Ohhh ty like rgis so the healers soak the orbs?

[mental thunder]

and you know what the real waste of stamina was? pushing lower elemental domains to level to 90 because you have poo gear and cant do 5s lol

[mental thunder]

heks will soak hits from bottom orb; top orb always hits lowest HP target on the field but i assume that is the 70 vicuc anyway. the positioning is just so all dps attacks hit boss; else you are wasting damage and making it take too long

[atomic briar]

Makes sense. Sigrid is my lowest hp, so i think thsts the problem. Shes too squishy and dies. Msybe i will give her extra hp

Ty

[mental thunder]

so i made a few stabs at trying to make you teams with the like no heroes you have... how are you level 90 units and have so few heroes?? are you hoarding dice? what is this... anyway...

red team is for venom, position them like i told the guy above to do

green is for curse... you'll have to shift main character to Ice for shields since you have no shielders anywhere else... creates a terrible afinity with radiant/lightning but whatever. grover to strip buffs, shook to debuff and remove shields.... and since you have like no dps useful there for rad/lightning, just bring sigrid for extra attack down uptime and hope for the best. make them all tanky enough to survive the aoe.

blue team is for rot, again a terrible lineup for it with only enna to cleanse and i slotted heks for another single cleanse but it isnt enough. just bad bad. again bring ice MC for shields, garius for tank and sigrid for debuff/damage. i hate that team but you have nothing else you can use there.

i circled all the useful units in yellow to work on over time; purple is your goblin team.

give usha decent defense gear and high crit% and attack; slot bracelet artifact so she self heals.

[wise prairie]

Hi all! I need advice for vortex. Currently doing tier 3 with 13 mill damage. This is my team and i wonder should i replace someone or is matter of gear to push little bit more till 15 mill and to get to next stage

[mental thunder]

honestly the only improvement i see is going to be vicuc for cleanse in IV... probably a factor of gear. if you are using errich on accuracy gear, he should be using a 3 piece three ear set so he is also buffing your team. crit% hands, 220-250 accuracy

i see that epic piece on adolphus and a lot of mediocre runes... if you are in lego gear with 100s, you should at least have all epic runes by now

and isolde is on a parceled set too; make sure you are using 3 piece sets

[wise prairie]

Sadly dont have vicuc. And errich have 230 acc for now...

[mental thunder]

good enough acc then, but you should be using a 3 piece set

even just a 3 piece executioner should up your damage

and scarab is a better artifact than barrier at like +12 just so you know

[wise prairie]

Didnt have much time for farming lately.. I ll concetrate on runes

[peak crystal]

Thanks a bunch.I am not hoarding dice just unlucky with pulls.Im in battle of wolf keep MQ.tyty

[atomic briar]

Still not working, thei aoe kills both dps within 30 seconds. I guess i just need to farm lvl 4 and get a slow trickle of epic stones… thx for ur help anyways

[mental thunder]

we can build you teams for HR and AB to get you at least farming epics if not 7/8 for lego runes

[wise prairie]

I didnt know for scarab. Ty very much

[mental thunder]

the AOE should never hit the dps...

move heksandra down 1 slot

actually move horrus and heks down 1

[atomic briar]

Oohh ok let me try

[mental thunder]

move them both down. problem is heks does not move forward but horrus does

[wise prairie]

Ok brb just to take screenshots of my heroes ty

[mental thunder]

so that leaves your back row clustered together.... so you may have to spread them out which isnt great

boss will always target the clustered together heroes with the aoe. it would honestly be better there to ditch one healer and go with a second tank up front so they move together and stay close

frurbath best in that scenario for additional heals

[mental thunder]

sort by element not level so i can see affinities

[wise prairie]

Oh and sry before i uploaded old vortex team

This is my 13 mill damage team with journ

[mental thunder]

a lot nicer setup i think; can get more damage out of errich off accuracy. swap to scarab for isolde eventually once it is liek +10-12 since the defense is actually higher than the banner with bonus activated; work on those runes; errich needs better arti, maybe horseshoe?

or put horseshoe on tonalfan instead and switch eye to errich

[wise prairie]

Ok i have horshoe.. Tho its lvl 8

[mental thunder]

and since you have barriers, maybe use music box to give you crit% to allow you to go more crit damage from hands main stat

just a thought

feeding my kids breakfast, back in a moment to help with teams

[wise prairie]

Ok ty!

[mental thunder]

so the key to ancient battlefield is you need healing and defense.... without buffs. if you bring buffs, the boss will strip them and get stacked damage bonuses. so you need to go in with healers like heksandra or vicuc that do none of that.

shields do not count as buffs, so that is huge; adolphus going to be pro strats there

you build heksandra a ton of resistance and put her in the back because boss will send a single target hit to her periodically attempting to stun; if he stuns, things can go badly

you also need all units to be tanky enough to survive his constant aoe... meaning you need like 40k hp on them with adolphus

[atomic briar]

Yahh so ni matter what i do the dps is being targetted

[mental thunder]

and attack down; and preferably a strip for his buffs

[atomic briar]

I giess i need to find anotger tank. Fml

[mental thunder]

ok then leave twitch in the back center and move sigrid into the corner behind heks

see if that helps

really just need a second melee to move up with horrus

can be a tanky dps or another actual tank

[mental thunder]

i'm thinking adolphus, dane, journ, heksandra, sigrid

and since they are all ranged, you can move them far away from boss so he doesnt actually melee attack you.

i'll show you the positioning

[wise prairie]

Ok

[mental thunder]

put them toward the back with heks furthest

she has to be a ton of resist, hp and defense. she's basically your tank here

should be fine with adolphus and all those debuffs. will be slow fights but if everyone has good hp/defense it will just be click auto and watch it go

[wise prairie]

Ok i will try little bit later. Gtg now, thank you for your help!