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using which team?
Call me crazy but did anyone try using Dubok against chaos Bionphray? In theory he should ult every 5 seconds after Bion ult.
I run oggok, hochadir, trolgar, voresh and ice mc
There you go =p
all my legos are lightning and radiant
epic fail
got Acilia and Gilian tho so cant complain much
Well for elemental domain you dont need a full elemental team, its only dmg thats doubled so you dont need matching element damage dealers but then you can use your best healer and tanks, thats how i did them
I had oggok heal all of em and furby tank em all
yeah i just did the lightning one using this same team
not sure how did you hit 22m with that team.. maybe coz of MC doing dmg?
gonna try MC instead of Sifris next reset and see
MC(Ice) offers the shield + sub-dps
and wouldnt it be better to replace Heksandra instead, since Sifris offers Defense Up.
also put some accuracy on Voresh to remove/prevent that Def-Up buff.
My healer was at 381(total) Resistance and its now preventing all the stuns, so she now heals without interruption.
Yea my voresh runs enough accuracy to land the buff black on him every time, i think he has 285accuracy. The ice mc is running a bit over 5k atk and shields for 23kish his actual dmg isnt so amazing though since his crit stats arent great, but the team will survive the whole time without even coming close to dying. Dork just does a ton of dmg for me,
MC made it work, 17m 😄
ice mc is super good in alot of things, grats
makes me want to raise Dorku
crit rate/dmg or attack speed for non dauntless dps?
depends on the build person, you can go super high atk with the gambler set and atk speed against super high lvl stuff like the vortex boss and the gold dragon and do good dmg, some poison based people want to max atk and enlightment for more poison dmg, and the rest prolly want the crit stats
Guys does it make sense to use Hvitar on Bionphray Chaos? Is she good for single target?
any teams agaisnt chaos shadows for lightning or necrotic dmg? im struggling with a decent tank or healer
Has anyone finished all these stages of Fire/Radiance and Necrosis/Lighting Pillar of Trial. I have been stuck these stages for weeks now
Any lineup recommended to complete these 2?
I'm trying to build a rally team here with Lorentheel, Hegio, Garrika (tank), healer (tbd) and should I add Alvis or Martina? Which one would boost damage on solo target better?
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Alvis vs martina... Definitely MARTINA! even with out building a rally team martina is great dps. If your using fire teams and are not a lego overloaded player martina is worth building.
GG @steady wraith, you just advanced to level 1!
Is she better than Hegio for bosses? She seems to depend heavily on multiple targets to crit properly
I mean, I get the point that having Lotentheel makes building Alvis less worthy, but he saves ton of crt rate for dps. Considering that, I still need a proper heal, which can only be provided by 2 healers or heal+support. Thus, now it looks like I need to chose between Hegio and Martina vs bosses in Chaos. Meaning it's gonna be vs poison lady
I find Alvis somewhat strange. Sure his ult helps - but the problem is in typical scenario both Hegio and Martina will ult before him so you would need to do all manually for maximum effect.
I truly miss Gillian for cleanse+heal combination so my purpose is to increase dps for the team that won't survive through 5 minutes and will deal dmg for 3-4 min tops. Any ideas on the setup?
I will post my fire/rad options in a minute
vs Jalathea? You want only 2 melee units in this fight, because all melee will be hit by her ult. You could maybe go with 3 if you had 2 healers.
So what do you think? Please consider Acilia, Quarion, Horrus Felicity and Tonalnan are my main team vs Auster (the ice bowman)
Or should I give up on 5-element affinity and build Enna for her cleanse+recovery over time?
you want another team for chaos shadow-jalathea?
Yup. My fire/rad affinity is maxed out so it makes sense
i think quarion as a healer is enough for auster(fire)
and you move acilia to your new radiant team
Only radiant damage gets bonus and realistically only Hegio is good enough dps in your radiant. So I would probably need more healing. I would also move Acillia to radiant.
for comparison, i do 16m consistently on auster with my lineup
Errich, Tonalnan, Horrus, Quarion, Nedda
Though it depends on your psychicore bonuses
Makes sense. Ty. So my line-up for Jalathea is Acilia, Hegio, Lorentheel, Imperial Warrior and Kamari? Or...?
I run Auster with Clovis/MC/Dane/Errich/Imperial warrior and do about 11-12m
I honestly don't know if Kamari or Clovis would be better
Kamari heals but Clovis has att down and slows boss
i position my healer close to horrus, so the one who get hits by Auster's ultimate is Horrus, Tonalnan, Quarion.
the other two is on the other edges
Well, Auster hits only my Clovis and healer so I have better setup 🙂
Doesn't he need accuracy for that?
Yes he does.
Could you please share his build? Is he scrolled?
I don't have the build saved but it was something like this. Fully scrolled.
Also any ideas on which build/set should I gear Hegio?
I thought it would be smth like this thx
I'd love to put more HP on him though
I think Alabaster with max cr/cd. And artifact that pumps ult damage.
Just make sure he has enough HP to not die early
Can you please share your positioning on occasion? Maybe dm if more convenient
1 - Horrus
2 - Tonalnan
3 - Quarion
4 - Errich
5 - Nedda
| D | - | D | - | - |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| - | - | - | - | T |
| - | - | - | - | - |
| D | - | - | - | H |
| D -dps T -tank H-healer |
Horrus' aura I suppose?
yes. on my case, its only his aura that is available
Well since I sub Nedda with Felicity I might go with crtdmg increase but I fear for survivability
you could go with felicity's aura.
my team only lasts for 3 minutes 🙂
and i think i focused more on hp stat equipments on horrus since auster got def ignore skills
Can I please ask for your Quarion build to check up with skill haste etc?
When I run test on 195 lvl dummy my Lorentheel deals more dmg with Gambler set than Hegio with Alabaster. Guess it's a sign to max out cr/cd in Gambler set for Hegio as well
Hey
I think dummies have way too much defense compared to real targets.
That compensated by the level gap I guess
You know I just run my Vortex build against 175 dummy. Usha does about 130K per hit to vortex on ult. Dummy? 30K 😄
Gotcha
Still it seems ignoring 18% def seems less relevant than dealing constant dmg with gambler set as chaos shadow bosses do not decrease current HP
Or do they??
I was also incredibly dissapointed to find out Hvitar is almost useless on single targets( What a waste
GG @rain prism, you just advanced to level 8!
It is almost impossible to compare sets as you'll never have two different sets with exactly same stats (and only then comparison would be fair). My vortex tests showed that executioner on Usha is better then gambler. But on Auster gambler is better. But the difference is actually below margin of error caused by rng on runs.
i feel like my eli got nerfed. my ice mc does 54% dmg and he does 33% and I gave him my horse shoe and what i think is my best gear
oh nvm ice mc has 3pc gambler, i guess that bonus is pretty huge
have you tried alabaster on Usha?
my conclusion is that if the Hero have multi-tick damage, gambler seems to be better(Auster, Shagrol, Sutha)
In case you've wondered, with Hegio in Alabaster I almost reached 10m vs Jathalea. Will try gambler set tomorrow
Sutha, Shagrol alway do better dmg with Gamble compare to other sets.(tested on dummy)
dummy is not a reliable test subject imho.
and like @Ragor said its kinda hard having it tested into actuality of how random the stats you could get.
Since a big factor of the Gambler set is the targets max hp + the heroes max attack, while the Executioner set is the targets defense(then there are also the def down debuff, how good is executioner set when paired with this debuff).
Well it is safe to say that gambler SHOULD be always better for dauntless because it triggers on basic attacks and dauntless are both faster and have extra basic attacks.
Finally cracked Shadow Auster
seems like auster is the easiest target to achieve 15m+, i am building 3rd auster team lol.
And that is total surprise. Absolute makeshift rag-tag team, surviving below two minutes and still doing 8M? Color me impressed, especially with Yagnatz.
are they all fully booked
that's impressive, considering there's no tank lol
Yeah, so I put troll gear on both melee guys to make them survive longer.
As they both want max attack stat anyways.
Dang, this must be my lucky day, another first full run. Bionphray defeated.
Well, I'm very low on healers. Only rare ones plus Furby. That severely limits my options.
for me Ripekas is really annoying to deal with, was able to reach 6.5m barely with a decent team
Haven't built poison team yet.
Ripekas indeed is annoying. He keeps attacking my guys at the back even though he AI should choose the pair closest to him. Weird.
app
lol Usha did 90% of damage?
Actually no.
Ah right I'm blind lol thought that was Varna not Hvitar
Usha is amazing hybrid of tank/dps xD
hi any tips for feywild 110? any epic approach? poison ticks and the hard nukes are killing me....
I'm stuck on that one also. I'm crafting high resistance sets to see if it helps me just kinda cheese my way through a lot of these high level nonsense fights with debuffs, from Feywild bosses to grave of rot.
Radiant Chaos
80m on 1 team today for Copper Drake!
quickly collected a team for lightning, never thought id reach that far without a tank and a proper healer
Isn't Meggan the most proper healer available in the two elements outside of legendaries?
does dragon's damage output reset or carry over after that attempt?
Output? That would be the damage it has already sent out, on heroes you can't use again.
I'm not quite sure what you're asking. Are you referring to the 200m damage counter? If so no, it doesn't carry over.
soz, what i meant by was if the dragon's damage that gets buffed (like vortex) during the battle carries over to the next battle.
hi by 3rd auster team, do u use fire dps on all of them?
I'm getting frustrated with the rogue leader in snow area.
GG @wide bridge, you just advanced to level 3!
I am forced to adjust my fire teams cos all of sudden my thea does less damage when wild check triggers it's so frustrating. I postponed building 3rd fire atm and am working on the other elements.
No real story about this one, just one question: how Questa was healing 40K on ult? 😮 It would need effective Attack 8K after all
maybe you have Blood bracelet artifact on her? - that will do 1075% healing off killing enemies with ult effectively.
he's against a chaos shadow. no chance on killing that.
oh yeah it didn't show in my screen haha
hi can i se ur tonal build for this boss? thanks
oh i see thanks for the reply
thanks
i need to add some hp i guess
How tf do u even hit those numbers? Jesus
Has the game been released yet? Where to download?
No. Late September
I download the game but i can't play
Giant Eyeball. Actually I have to test it on dummy, if the ult damage bonus of this artifact would apply to her healing as well then it would probably explain the numbers. Still 40K healing sounds crazy.
So after few tests: artifact has no effect. But important discover: unlike other bonuses that work on base stat, Three Ears lego set bonus works on TOTAL stat. Assuming Snowland food bonus also works this way the 40K healing would be correct.
what's three ears lego set?
So when is global lounch happening ?
GG @silent terrace, you just advanced to level 4!
oh yeah that one. it's really op i always use that set.
any advice on line up against Errich, the chaos shadow? Lydia/Iola/Megan/Shag/Irina is what I am considering.
A lot of people don't seem to notice this, because the wording is sort of confusing, but the rare artifact, gospel of light something, or something like that, which says "hero recieves more healing" means that their healing is increased by that much more, not that they get healed for that much more.
If you have good Gambler set consider leveling Yagnatz. He rocks in this fight. Otherwise your proposition sounds fine.
True. And actually I found out that it really rocks on Furby, boosting his healing like crazy. Got me an extra 1M on vortex score. I'd say it is an epic level artifact.
I dunno if I'd go that far, but I think there's only like 2 artifacts that straight up boost healing,and the epic one comes out to being a little bit better mathematically, but only taking effect when healed targets are under a certain amount of hp. Also the simple virtue of being epic/legendary means their primary affixes go higher.
Just cheked his kits. 19cd ult is actually amazing, as most of heroes have 23 sec cds. it's getting harder to obtain rare skill books. thank you for that.
Philto critting for like 600k when he has rally on... crazy
I would be more surprised by Welby here. Show his build please
He is there just for the rally giving really
with haste of skills
I guess that much. And yet he still does a lot of damage.
Yeah he did good dmg for his purpose
i'm surprised he's outdamaging huldork so much
What team would be best for me against temporal vortex? i'm only doing 3.5mil right now?
Assuming Felicity and Errich are fully skilled I would go them plus Donella, Voresh and Frurbath or Horrus (but probably Frurbath is better because 1 healer is not enough). Or you could try Philto instead of Donella but then Frurbath is a must for attack down.
can you show your other heroes?
also depends if you want to stick with 3 or 5 affinity bonus
3 Affinity : Felicity, Errich, Philto, Frurbath, Meggan
5 Affinity : Frurbath, Dorkuraz, Usha, Voresh, Eches(if youre willing to level her, skill up not necessary, just get enough Skill haste for her Ultimate to go down to 20.1s)
What stats am i building up to?
Frurbath - Go High def and atleast 200 Accuracy ( i put my crown of Unclean on him)
DPS - If its multi-tick damage, gambler set is good on them otherwise, executioner. you also need a decent amount of crit rate / crit damage. (85+ crit rate, 150+ crit damage)
Dorkuraz (if you went for the 5 affinity) - High accuracy, and brotherhood spirit set
I prefer Crown on fastest hero. And definitely one set of Three ears, also on fastest hero.
Philto doesnt benefit from Gambler Set, as his attack speed is hard capped(according to skill description). Since you went with Eyeball artifact on him, then the set I would probably use on him would be Executioner. Also try to get atleast 80%+ Crit Rate.
Errich benefits a lot on Gambler Set. His ultimate is 5 damage ticks(+1 on successful wild check).
I dont have Felicity, but I think Executioner set would be best on her.
Need more def on your Frurbath.
And if youre gonna use Meggan, just time her ultimate whenever your party gets Def Down from Malinus.
Thanks for the info, i'll make those changes
for stat-comparison, this is what my Frurbath looks like
how much does he heal per tick? lol
Over 3K. And with buff from Megan that's over 4K 🙂
Felicity's set of choice is Alabaster
I'm surprised by both how long they last and how much damage they can deal. Still need to find missing 3M.
nice, troll set on questa?
No, alabaster. Turns out her own healing on ult was enough.
imma try questa zadok isitarian thia enna. what u think
You need someone to remove Rally form shadow. Otherwise his ult will hurt.
ah dang.. Irina was used for Errich.
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But can it actually be removed?
Yes it is normal buff.
I will not call this a team, nonetheless 900 points still better then 500 for domain stage 5.
Всем доброго времени суток. Кто знает? Можно ли поиграть в эту игру? Сервер ещё до сих пор закрыт?
Problem is Jathalea forbids resurrection with her ult. And that's where my Hegio dies after 10 mil(
Lol can't be, I fond the missing 3M, well 5M actually, just with gear change.
Actually, to look at it, Thia did a lot of damage here. And to think somebody rated her as C-rank hereo 🙂
i am more of impressed with that goblin dude.
Thanks again, i made your suggested changes and i went from 3.5m to 6.3m damage
what goblin?
the guy next to enna
lol that's an elf, dark elf I think.
I built him only for his captain aura, but in this fight he's actually quite useful as the zombie he summons can take 1-2 hits from Thelendor moonbeams so the team takes less hits.
What chaos boss was this against?
Oh, nvm I see thelendor
just noticed his aura. that's a hidden gem right there lol
Well if he would be ranged unit then he would be on same level as Eli I think. As melee dps there is always a problem of keeping him alive while still having enough offensive stats to do good damage. He actually died first in this fight.
Please check dm)
Do you guys think Mithrasea will handle it instead of Quarion? She makes no sense on Jathalea since resurrection gets blocked by bosses ult. Is she capable to heal good enough alone on Auster?
her heal should be enough.
if youre able to land her ultimate before auster apply frost, atleast it offers better survivability to your front lines(as opposed to Quarions Def-up, which Auster pretty much ignores).
Then I can try to kick Jathalea with this team: Quarion, Acilia, Hegio, Lorentheel, Dane (for debuffs)
should be good. if you have Wellby leveled, might be a good option too, to change it with Dane.
I don't have him leveled and I suppose decreasing attack and defense of Jathalea will increase dmg and survivability way better than Wellby's dmg
i only suggested him because of this:
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but yeah, if dane is enough to reach your target, then its all good.
Right now with Kamari instead of Quarion I'm between 11 and 12m. Hopefully def up and more heal would keep Hegio alive another minute so he can deal the remaining 3-4m
Moreover Quarion will add +15%atk with his set
dang I only did 6.8m with the same line up. team just can't absorb thelen's ult
Make sure to use Irina ult just before thelendor ult to put att down and dispel his Rally.
ok thanks i will retry in the next reset.
Btw my score was done with maxed both psychicore and snowland food. This can make a lot of difference.
I will have them maxed tommrow. and will also raise dps to 99-100. let's see how it goes.
but 0 books invested though.
Today only 15,7 M. I only booked Irina and Enna. Questa died first this time. Tioh not doing as much damage, I guess I put too much defensive gear. @finite turtle @rain prism
ok i put too much cr/cdmg in exchange of attack stats for Questa - gotta fix that next time. rest of stats are pretty similar to mine
and gotta make her tankier too.
Nah, since her healing is based on att you want max attack first, both chest and glove needs to be att%
Here's Ripekas build. If I had a poison guy to replace Usha I guess I would hit 15 instead of being stuck on 14M.
Auster is simple enough but if anyone needs a setup. Note that Errich is not booked. Oh and I actually forgot to put Crown on Dane, score would be higher.
can you show me the formation on Ripekas?
Sure, gimme a sec, beating Bion now
Dang again just 14M. My best team and it can't do 15.
i use MC(Ice), Voresh, Dork, Frur, Heksandra and consistenly do ~18m on bion
Going from the top: Jathalea, Usha, Eli, Frurbath, Dench
thank you bro. with that formation, supports don't get hit at all?
As long as Dench is alive Ripekas only hits front line.
that's sick
That's why he does no damage cos I put him all defense. He's there to take hits and put poison.
like this?
Yep
not sure durango can tank lol
wait, Corrin will also get hit by the boss right?
he's out of range of furbath healing hmm
I'm not sure though Corrin can substitute for Dench
With Dench I usually have around 10 poison counters when Jatha fires.
durango is there to inflict/stack poisons.
durango+corrin can easily stack 20+ as long as i believe
btw, how many 15m teams you have?
It changes each day. Fire and necro seem to be most stable, cold and lightning sometimes manage to do it. Poison is close, radiant not anywhere.
if you shut down the game in the middle of fight it won't count - on pc, not sure on mobile. by doing this I managed to hit 15m consistently lol
There is a way to make Furby tank instead. Reverse the whole setup upside down and then switch Durango with Furby. It is still same formation but now Furby is the target.
Awesome, I will try tht out thank you!
worked like a charm. thanks bro.
Guys can you pls give me an advice on my lightning team vs Errich Chaos Shadow? Keep stumbling on 11-12m(
yeah you lack some dauntless heroes.
But i would probably try
Shagrol+Yagnatz+Bionphray+Sylvester+Irina/Iola(whoever can land a consistent-frequent attack down2)
have Bionphray+Sylvester+Shagrol tank Errichs skill.
and have Yagnatz + Irina/Iola do most of the damaging.
Bionphray /Shagrol are on DPS-Troll Set
Yagnatz on gambler
Shagrol is very squishy unfortunately but I'll try thx
thats where the troll set will do its magic, provided you have a good amount of attackspeed and high attack.
Troll set is for skill haste instead of attackspeed, ain't it?
it heals you each time you attack, based on your attack
man it's so hard to build a necro/lighting team around as the elements lack of tanks/healers
all healer for lightnight/necro affinity is over time, so it gets cucked on certain situation, and its viability gets very limited
even with troll sets on Shagrol, he just melted by Errich's coconuts.
sylvester is the only healer in that element i think lol
Questa, but too conditional
actually Thia too
yeah they are.. kind of.. and might actually be very handy in non-boss stages. but when against bosses, it's a no no
GG @finite turtle, you just advanced to level 11!
Questa on the Necro Phoenix is a viable healer because of its mechanics.
Finally, but just barely done.
nice, and my ice team
Since I have Hvitar, Vidimir, Dallbam, I guess I can make another team for getting 10m on Bionphray. How exactly did you use Gardrus? For aura only?
Skill haste, accuracy, Crown, then the rest into attack/crit. Aura too because I don't have anything better anyway in this composition.
Embarrassing performance by Hegio compared to Welby. Anyone has an idea how to gear him to score better?
any advice for poison/ice pillar of trial 29?been stuck in here for weeks varna and sifris so annoying 🙂
I used Eli+Gardrus combo to take out varna and 1 sifiris instantly by placing them in row 2.
sounds like a good plan so i put eli beside gardrus?..may i see your stats for eli and gard.. mygardus doesnt have dmg as i focus on his skill haste and acc..
something like this. but it's important that you need someone to apply def down before eli activates his ult - Voresh did that job for me.
ok thanks il try this one later
Funny, pretty much the only difference between yesterday setup and this is Crown on Dane and 1K more HP and 20 res on Quarion.
you're gonna have tons of fun in endgame, just reached that phase tonight
you mean copper dragon?
in grave of curse does defense minimizing damage do anything to prevent the dudes super shield? I know shields do but thats all. also, does Brody (and i think someone else) who has a skill to remove shield work on bosses shields like that? I dont have Brody but damn I hate the shields on some of these guys. Frost domain is worse
if you chuck your hero pools here, people will be able to give you best answers.
question is about the formula not specific heroes. It'll influence whether I want a hero with defense up. Well the second part is specifically about Brody but also not a full lineup just that specific mechanic
Hmph, small lizard. Wondering if that's good enough or should I try again 🤔
what's your vortex damage? i find people hit about x2-x2.5 on copper compared to vortex
17,2 was my max
i rkn that's an outstanding result.
Maybe but I feel I still have room for improvement
pretty good result for that team, my highest score
Thanks, that's what I needed.
is attack debuff a must have to keep your team for 8 mins.
Not sure. All I know is Furby lives whole time no matter what.
Ok, 62M seems to be max for now. Last run all lived for 7m45s so no way to improve that without lowering defense. And my first impression is that this is defensive fight. You need about 2K def on everybody to keep them alive.
Usha is an exception, she made it to full time with only 1.6K def but she tanks a lot of damage on her own shield.
did you put high res or acc on frurbath?
Acc. Res did not seem to work, I got it as high as 350 total and that was still not enough. Couldn't get more without killing acc.
despite def down from the boss, he still does a ton of healing, what an op hero haha
Well, extending dragon cycle to 30 sec thanks to killing his dragon rage by Auster really helps here as I got 10 seconds debuff free each cycle to heal.
Hello, why if I'm a beta tester it won't let me enter the game anymore? what should I do?
highest so far
I feel like a damage dealer would be better than a second healer here. But I don't have acilia so I don't know how well she keeps the team alive. My gillian solo heals and keeps whole team alive to full timer.
Felicity and huldork have no scrolls and gillian is missing 1 and flora is missing 2
wow seems like Flora team underperforms on copper. now i am very scared as my expectation on my flora team was 80M+ at least.
My flora team with acilla except that dwarf did 60m
do you have the exclusive artifact on Flora? and how much damage does your flora team deal on Vortex?
No exclusive artifact, 30m vortex
My team isn't scrolled up.
There you go. Whole team surviving till the end. Shield is OP against copper dragon.
And again, shield is OP. Dubok-Quarion survive whole 8 min. Too bad it turns out my fire dps suck.
Hey guys, has anyone passed lvl 30 radiance pillars? What's your line-up?
Flora team rocks copper was my best today flora,Errich,tolanan,acilia and sagomir made 300m+
GG @zenith nimbus, you just advanced to level 8!
Ah dang so high
Heh think I have looked one zero to much it seems did them when opened eyes😂
Any 20m+ Vortex teams around for inspiration?
I'm trying to make Thia work there. As long as you use only ranged heroes her ult used before 3rd skill makes all team immune to both debuffs.
Nice! With or without exclusive artifact?
I assume w/ artifact because it's impossible doing 300m without the artifact indeed 😅
flora tonal errich khrysos mith
thx
does copper do single target attacks like Vortex? or everything is aoe?
All his skills are aoe.
Can anyone please share relevant build for Wellby vs Copper Dragon? Ty
I would appreciate your Wellby's build please
woah nice, are u manualling this fight?
also do u need thank on cooper?
No tank needed since it is only skills no auto attack. And the skills hit all heroes.
The tank might be useful to absorb 10% dmg from dds so they can live longer. And with dragon's way of dmg increase it seems to give quite a bunch of rounds to deal more dmg
If you go 1 heal, 1 buffer/debuffer and 2 DPS adding a tank it has to give more than adding another pure DPS. Going from 2 DPS to 3 is a 50% increase and I doubt 10% less dmg taken will makes them live 50% longer. But I guess it depends what characters you got. Frurbath is amazing with going tank set and bonus healing and might make it worth dropping a DPS but in general I doubt it if it is only for the 10% dmg transfer.
I was talking about people with poor 5th and 6th teams who need those extra rounds to get at least something. If you have a slow healer with heal per tick 10% less dmg can bring a lot to the table
Yeah for sure but I would suggest trying to get a tank that got 3 items for the 10% dmg transfer while also getting some free healing or buffs/debuffs from the "tank" since otherwise they wont add much.
You can also use Kamari as a tank to revive dds at the end of the day. So it's not a firm NO for tanks on the teams vs Copper Dragon. That was my point)
oh i see, thanks for the answers guys
I don't remember what I used on him. And I did not used him on dragon yet.
Partially manual. I try to drop shield on 4th skill, the rest can usually go auto. As for tank, Furby is a healer here not tank. In fire team I used Dubok with Ancestral protection set and he easily survived full time so this shows no need for tank at all.
Oh, gotcha. Ty for reacting anyways
What are MC's stats please? Is it all out attack or?
Hello... I can't get into my account in the game... I wrote to the support service, it's just "0".
Tell me, please, what kind of problem is this? I used to play until I downloaded the game to another phone.
damn, Jath is quite strong. 1.6m ult lol
Poor troll 🙂
i am wondering is atk down 100% required? to survive
i dont have furb on ice team, considering using the tank rare or gulal for atk down if it required
If you have shield then no, although without it getting to full time might require more defense on team. But if you get hit with dragon ult without any sort of protection it is going to hurt a lot. Basically dragon ult compares to Ancient Battlefield stage 9 ult in terms of damage. And considering part of that damage is permanent even if you use best healer it is going to wear your heroes down quickly.
Attack down heavily depends on your team.
oh i see why shield really important then
I have 2 copper drake teams that last all 8 minutes without consistent attack down.
what do u use on those team?
do u build mc with max atk and dubok full hp?
Flora (some scrolls), gillian (most scrolls), felicity (no scrolls), tonalnan (all scrolls), huldork(no scrolls). Yes huldork applies attack down with his battle skill, but it's not consistent enough for it to reliably be up for the copper drake ultimate.
Hockadir(no scrolls), auster (no scrolls), varna (all scrolls), ice MC (all scrolls), usha (all scrolls). Yes varna applies attack down with her ulti, but in order to best optimize her ultimate energy removal she never applied attack down for copper drake ultimate ability.
Both of these teams can do 30m+
Pretty much yes. MC has 5,4K att and 2K def. Dubok 100K hp and as much def as I can get in ancestral protection set.
how can Gilian only keep the 4 of them up? do u have them geared a bit definsively ?
Huldork can Ulti 2 times each rotation, thus making the dragon have an effective ultimate cooldown of ~39s (since felicity alone will guarantee the dragon always loses the stacks and goes to prone mode after ulting) That's 25s base rotation timer + 5s prone + ~5s first huldork ulti + ~5s 2nd huldork ulti. This enables 2 things: Firstly, Gillian gets to ulti twice each rotation I time this once just before the flame attack and a second time in the middle of the animation for the dragon skill that applies defense down. Secondly, The dragon doesn't get nearly as many stacks of his damage buff since he takes ~60% longer to do his rotation.
Here is my character's gear for reference. It's by no means the best. I'm sure others here have better gear sets for these characters. Please note I have a maxed out Elemental Affinity Chart and a Maxed out buff setup from Otherworldly Exploration.
Here is a screenshot I took of a completed 8 minute run. I do believe Tonalnan died in this run about 30s before the end of it.
Thanks for the detailed explanation man
I did it with Gilian only today, got 39M dmg, replaced Acilia with Horrus tho.. which works for me since i have another Radiant only team
no worries, happy to share my knowledge. I plan to release some video content for the game when S1 drops. So keep an eye out 😄
if you have any video suggestions feel free to send them my way as well
can someone show me a good build for tonal and errich for copper dragon. i only deal 5m max dmg and they die like a fly... my main ice team can deal 30+m but my fire team barely deal 5m.. got quarion horrus and swapped dane with dubok cause of its shield for my fire team .
Are yyou guys playing demo version?
They are in the closed beta.
Okay. Umm do we know when it's realease day?
i see u have lots hp and no critdmg?
do need high hp on all hero?
how much max dmg per day you guys do in copper dragon as f2p? for the whole 6 teams in total... i just feel like im doin less with 42M total cause my main team only does 34m max then other teams struggling to even survive..however in our server im rank 6th in total dmg ranking above me are all whales is this really hard for f2p to make at least 70M per day?
Im F2p,I did around 110m per day ,if got more healer maybe can make over 140m
good to know...maybe my hero composition and gears just needs more improvement..thanks
MrBoon has the good point. In dragon you are limited by the number of good healers you have. Team with two solid healers (or one lego) can do 15-20M even without good dps. Team without them can't pass 6M. But to pass 70M daily you just need one good team.
i saw your team doin 71M on copper dragon i have the same team but im missing hochadir.. is it possible dorkuraz can replicate those score by any chance?.. i have auster usha MC frur and hex at the moment only can do 34M
Nope, you would be missing a lot of bonus Hochadir gives. But you should try Usha, Dorkuraz, Auster, MC, Furby. Heksandra is not needed, Furby can heal alone.
ok i will try that composition..may i have a look at your gear build for your frost team?thanks
thought i was gonna need like 300+ acc
You get +90 total from affinity and snowland bonus
Thanks will try to replicate this later with dorkz instead of hochadir..😄😄
You need some form of defensive layers. I did HP instead of Defense because of the nature of the battle.
Surprisingly Thia+Megan have quite good survival ability, lasted full time.
GG @somber ivy, you just advanced to level 15!
thats interesting.. howd u gear them?
Megan in ancestral protection with Candle, Thia max att/enlightenment (to max healing) and Incense burner, manually firing ult at 16th second to cover last three attacks with invisibility. Remaining trio geared for damage with Crown on Irina (cos she's booked and Iola not).
Radiant lego fest.. didnt think that Hurdok-like guy can outdamage Philto
Well, his both skills are aoe plus ult gets nastier with time. No wonder in such long fight he gets good.
I think i couldve done more before the difficulty increase
Anyway, what's Clovis doing there anyway?
Attack down and green set to absorb some dmg
Yeah but between Acilia and Quarion you should have enough healing to not care about att down. Have you tried swapping another dps for him?
Yeah, it gets useless tbh, actually i was thinking of replacing Quarion with a dps, as u can see Quarion doesnt offer much with Acilia healing and the hp cutting mechanic the boss applies.. but attack down on the other hand is a life saver
i wish i could have an artifact that makes the extra healing goes as a shield, that would be OP
But Quarion has def up, that works well too
yeah, helps
I'd try alvis if I were you
If only Alvis had some sort of healing
Nah, acilia should solo heal this team
dont have him
Right, I'm just looking at him im broader perspective. With healing he would be good hero, as he is I feel him to be trash level
Hoooowwww???? Do you have Hegio? He'd do well here too I think.
my radiant lineup 😄
I'm surprised you have 3 radiant leggos but not the epic
Wut, that's wild
By the time I had 4 leggos I had all but maybe 2 epics lmfao
Hegio and that other radiant epic that gives Rally are the ones i was looking for the most
they never dropped
😄
I think with Donatella or whatsher name, i could get a really powerfull 5 man radiant team
Donella 😄
Dane might be a better fit for your team.
Dane is useless tbh with his weak attk down
What's your fire heros?
Lmao, he does great damage in this fight since he hits all 3 targets though
Yeah, I think Dane might be better than quarion. You could probs keep atk down active for the whole fight between him and your tank
You could also try Brody for attack down
problem is they dont keep each other up, the weaker attk down doesnt apply if the higher one is there
Yeah, you'd have to either manual the fight, or get them to have same cooldown and offset the first cast
GG @gritty oracle, you just advanced to level 19!
yeah
and manualing the fight is a no go for me, have to do this fight 5 times and changing gear is just too much time
😄
@somber ivy just leveled Thia as per ur inspiration, let's see how this goes 😄
Lol. I was able to hit 160m on 4 teams, so manually controlling 1 or 2 hereos each fight was no biggie
damn nice
i am doing around 125~130 fully auto, good enough for rank1 so i am not bothering.. but i guess on global it is gonna be much harder
Yeah, I earned enough points on my server to have taken 7th place on first server. So I'm optimistic of a top 15 finish on global
And I didn't even run a 5/6 team
first server was hell, i am glad i rerolled away from it
Yeah, same.
But you do have to manual Thia otherwise sh'll not work 🙂
u had her skilled up?
nope
@somber ivy Thia doesnt work unfortunately with Melee dmgers
Yes, that's why I used only ranged
replaced Nastenjka with Iola, got 19M dmg, not bad for the last team
Call me crazy or desperate to build Fitz to tank damage. But it is the only team that gained damage today despite dragon gaining enhancement. 😄
100m pog
Can you believe it? Fitz/Enna keeping them alive for over 5 minutes, even without proper att down applier?
nice, what does questa do there tho?
just a +1 for the elemental buff?
Her ult down helps with taking dragon rage down, plus she has self heal which is useful
New best score on lev270 dragon. Bigger shield = profit.
Can eches' dispell substitute for mc's shield?
If you were lucky enough to always dispel def down, and kept dragon under debuff all the time then almost yes. However there are two debuffs to dispel so you won't be that lucky. Still Eches counts as at least half defensive unit in this fight.
2 more resets, can't wait.
I think if you pair Eches with Furby the result should be quite good as long as she's fully booked.
Fitz/Enna team being consistent, today 12,6 M with same time.
it is more of a chore than anything, i am glad it will be over in 2 days
shield is better
becuase dragon reduces max hp when he damages you
but any damage that hits a shield doesn't count for that
so your max hp will stay higher longer
could maybe use her over like hochadir though, not sure how much he adds
I don't think i can afford another 7-8 epic scrolls during the late stage of season. it's just so hard to obtain, even the rare scrolls haha.
Voresh, Frurbath, Usha, Dorkuraz, Heksandra
This is my also my main team, I do have success them for most content. Was able to do level9 dungeons with this lineup just changing some Hero from time to time.
Use MC(Ice), Gardruz, whenever situation demands it
Hochadir seems a nice addition to your lineup too.
yeah i was going to suggest something similar
What stat should one focus on mainly? Def, accuracy, attack and crit?
My best, keep trying tomorrow 4 best dmg
I think you can swap one defensive hero for another dps
What do they mean by boss enhancement by the 50% treasure chest
He goes from l250 to 270. Just more damage really.
Cant anything be easy in this game😂
Only if you P2W
Damn, my wild team is absolutely choking.
I don't see Gilian there?
oh yeah I forgot to take a sc. team wasn't able to survive for 4 mins with Gillian, because she could only dispel 1 spell.
what did i do wrong lol
Gear probably? How long they lasted?
around 2mins i think
Megan in ancestral protection with candle, split HP/def evenly. Thia is not for damage, drop crit and alabaster set and go att/hp only. Witch remains on Irina. Get more defense/HP on Irina and Iola and less on Yagnatz.
Also, formation matters. Megan in front, Irina next to her so she can use her shield ability on Megan only. The rest three further away but still in Megan's healing area.
Thank you. also Thia ult right before dragon applies his debuffs, and Irina ult before dragon is about to use his ult right?
Yes. No. Irina can go on auto really. That's because Iola even with acc as low as 100 can still apply -att quite a bit of time. And invisibility eats 15% of ult damage anyway.
yeah I only manually controled Thia this time and after gear swapping it's got so much better lol
There is still room for improvement but I think you need more levels on Megan
ok, and thoughts on swapping out Yaz for Enna just for extra healing for team? Single target skills a bit underwhelming here i think
I'm only using Yagnatz because that's all I have here lol. I did run with Enna but it was too much healing for me and not enough damage.
oh i see, I just noticed that I have a lvl90 Zadok, I might as well try him out lol.
Yeah, Zadok might be better
So much improvement! yet I still believe there's potential to reach 20m with better stats adjustment. Appreciate for your advice I will stop here today as I will have to do this thing for the next 9 days haha
jesus...
That's my placement in this fight
You still do have a lot to learn young padawan 🙂 that's today run just for fun
How you do that dmg....
I'm try 20+ times and cannot rich 35+... Some runs do just 20-25 and die......
20 is actually fine for a typical team. It's just my team no 1 is OP
Its my main team....
Does placement matter with dragon
1 time do 40.. and not saved this ...and i cant do in again 😞
I did 22 today and thought I can't do abit better...couldn't get past 17
I think my frost did around 20m too. wish I had auster there! 
Are they all scrolled up?
Yeesss.. finely do 70+m dmg😁
Except mith. Her ult is booked.
Placement in this fight have a sense?
Mithrasea with high speed = unkillable team no matter how squishy your dps are 😁
Jathalea.. might be better than we thought
you need furbath
Wow pro doing so much dmg
With ferbath im do less dmg:) his heal not enough
Furby heals more then Hexa, and of course if you were to run both Ergander and Furby you would be short on damage. Then Jatha without other poisoner deals just half of the damage really. You really need to rework this team.
yeah swap out Jath for Eli i'd say
How do you get more summons? I only have 2
if you want to score better, you need frurbath and mc to keep your team alive whole time and add another dps.
Frurbath heals 1.7 with debuff, mc do 24k+- shield... Its good enough i think,but that heal to small
Can you show your frurbath? And all team 🙂
Furbath you need to get Def up as much as possible for good heal, I think mine does 3000
this is pretty much similar to mine. what's acc?
Furby should heal 2.1 with debuff, MC shield should be 27K. Your gear lacks.
I don't have that def on tank
GG @strong fractal, you just advanced to level 11!
I don't think it's the stats problem. Actually you need someone to remove the dragon's rage, so that will allow to recharge mc's shield and frurbath to heal your team. For me it was durango. and @somber ivy has auster for that.
What?
How can i remove it
Really i don't understand how durango or auster remove rage
if someone gains ultimate charge, the stack will be reduced everytime.
So if durango lands his crits, he gains ultimate charge, in turn the rage stack will be reduced.
Oh now i see,ty
When one reaches the 50% piece of the copper dragon, does it take 90% less damage or 90% more damage
I have problems with this,my second team don't reduced that stacks.. I don't know why
What's your 2nd team?
any incoming damage reduced by 90%
Yeah I don't see anyone in your team has ability to reduce his stacks
Really i think any heroes can reduce buff if his ultimate to fast
Before boss has his ult
Incoming dmg from dragon or heroes
In my second team,buff reduced just 1or 2 stacks
From heroes
Eish so my heroes will do even less dmg now..
That last sentence of first paragraph confused me coz it's not to clear, they need to add more words.
Taken by copper dragon has two meanings
So about my team,can you say what i must change?)))
Yep, I don't understand this copper to..... strange boss
my bad you have Dorku who does reduce his stack. is he fully booked?
Yes,but he is first (ok) team
yeah 2nd team, you need durango or varna
So i need a hero who can increase his ult by his own skills?
whoever increases ultimate charge will reduce its stacks
how muc damage did u do with 2nd team
should be satisfied result unless you have those heroes i mentioned lol
I'm have only ones 70m.... I want more😁
@strong fractal there are 2 artifacts that can help removing dragon rage - Candle and incense Burner. Candle removes 1 stack per use of battle skill while Incense removes 1 stack per ult. If you use both then all you need is one more hero that can do ult up/down to get dragon stunned.
Oooh I shall try that tomorrow!!!! Coz today's dmg was crap I did 6m less than yesterday
Wilt can do the job i think if you can afford skill books or high haste sets for him
Who is wilt?)
ice rare
Help please pillar 27
have gardrus?
Don't have gardrus and eches
how important is hochadir for this team ? is there any substitute for him ?
like i understand he extends frost and also primarily be providing frost, but can you substitute him for something else ?
Im doing 40m with usha, frur, auster, eches and heksandra
feels like I'm not doing well, my rally team is not doing that well too
Either Dorku or wiltz should be able to provide enough frost for Usha, assuming they are booked.
Usha/austrr/Mc/frur/dorku or Wiltz would perform better
Boosts their damage by 30-40% (never tested how much exactly)? Other then that you can replace him with any hero that puts frost.
the funny thing is, my acc didnt pull dork
GG @worthy nymph, you just advanced to level 12!
I could use wiltz but I'm kinda out of rare scroll after using it on necro/lightning
Actually, some haste stats and fully defined burner can do the job
is this a bad run ?
today's the first day of copper dragon, at least need to know what's the standard for a good run
standard of a good run would be... total damage reaching 140m i rkn
GG @finite turtle, you just advanced to level 14!
is this on auto?
yeahhh
i mean I tried manualling it but it doesn't have much difference since my gillian and lorentheel is running a skill haste build
gillian is at 120 skill haste, lorentheel around 70
maybe martina could do higher damage if I manual it though
there will be a big difference. time most of your ultimates before the 3rd skill deals it damage. since copper dragon removes buffs
Make sure to put her in correct spot so she hits two parts of the dragon with battle skill and gets auto crit
Let me see if I have screenshots
I still don't understand the boost from the orb thing. Like I see that it gives some kind of buff, should I time my ult during that phase of better off just ult before buff removal ?
1- Horrus 2- Hegio 3-Martina the rest put behind. At the start of the battle Martina will move in front of Horrus and that's the spot she needs. @worthy nymph
thank you for this ! I'll try to manual it and see how it goes
Its usually better to time your ultimate(especially if it applies buffs like defense up) before the 3rd skill of the dragon deals it damage. that way you can effectively reduce the damage from three of its abilities(buffs that applies defense up).
On your Gilian, however, I would use her ultimate after the defense down is applied, since she have a single debuff dispel, you have 50% chance of removing that def down debuff.
or let the first debuff expire then cast it
My main team can't even do 20m, i did not expect Copper Dragon to be so much harder.
Wow @somber ivy i've seen your ice lineup and it helped me a lot, i did 26m. I think i can do more if i gear up my team better. 👍👌💪
I just settled with 37m, I'll try to push 40m tomorrow.
A bit low though. Team with two rare healers should be able to do 20M damage without legos, more with any lego dps. Both your teams look good on defensive side but they lack on offensive side and dragon rage removal.
Healers cant heal my fire team in dps equipment, they just die in 3-4 ult dragon,like a second team...thay all have+40-60k hp to their hp
Defense is more important in this fight then HP if you have no shield. And where's your attack down? Horrus does not count as he only hits claw with it.
ragor can i ask you for some details
is this too low ?
because it seems that Idk if I should focus on HP, or atk more. should frurbath focus fully on def or accuracy
my team doesn't run any crown, or the set that gives atk boost after ult. I know I probably should swap those things but without hochadir upkeep of frost, I have to rely on auster providing it instead
I'll include my stats reference and hope you can help me on what I did wrong
I use hourglass on adv ice because i can block the fire breath and the boss ult in alt turns. if on turn 1 I block both, turn 2, I can only shield the team from the boss ult.
Actually very impressive score with those gears.
so basically, I should have better gears for it ? or I made a mistake in stats focusing ?
Can you just quit the copper dragon battle or will the damage be counted?
you have the option to save or disregard your dmg...so if you quit and chose not to save then it will not save..
Execution or Alabaster set on Usha. 4.3k+ def on Frurbath. Brotherhood 3 pieces set and Crown or witch on Voresh imo. I wonder if your mc can cast twice his ult within 1 boss turn as well.
That is very good score. Yes, Hochadir makes that big impact. But no Crown or Witch remains is biggest mistake you could make. Make sure to fix it next season. Also you did not used Three-ears set. Put it on Adv since you already making him fast.
i dunno if it helps but try to make auster accuracy to atleast 230 to inflict frost that way austers skills and usha ult will have more dmg 🙂
One more tip: put cr% gauntlet on Auster. He really rocks with good critical.
actually I'm always hitting frost, i never failed to proc it
actually I do have crown, what I meant was I didn't put it on anyone for the fight because there's no one reliable to use it. If I switch to the set, I'll lose the +20 skill haste, while I could deal more dmg, I always find myself not surviving. Do you usually survive until the end ? because this team survive almost full battle
they all mostly die at the final 10-12 sec though
I could do it on odd number turn. like if I use the shield on fire breath and ult on the first turn, I'm unable to use it on the 2nd turn. but I'll able to block both on 3rd one but the requirement seems a bit high, I could only do it around 120+ skill haste it seems
so does the atk down not important ? I can see myself achieving high def but with zero acc though
You don't need all that skill haste. I have like 30 haste on Adv and that's enough to survive full time. Just one defense against ult (shield or -att) is enough. If you have crown put it on Furby, that way you can have more def and higher acc on him (and don't worry about HP on him, I had 30+ fights and he never died).
Ahh, I didn't actually think about putting on frurbath since I was lacking a bit on defensive gears. I will try to work something out with what you guys had tell me but 4k def is a bit too high for me
I could probably do around 3k def
well, I will try that first and hopefully get better result
thank you ragor
kew and dirtdiver
Ah, you don't need resistance on Furby. I always just ignored those debuffs.
Besides 190-ish resistance is way not enough anyway to work
Hi, how you beat pillar fire/radiant-30? I target the boss but it reduce dmg, target small one but the boss heals it full hp again... 🤔, do you using hero with no heal debuff?
save up ults at the end of wave 2, and burst down one of minions as soon as wave 3 starts.
problem is my dps not enough dmg to burst down a minion, my main dps r felicity + errich but it deals only 1/2 hp of a minion. Maybe ill try 3 dps.
yeah you need 3 dps
well with the improvement that I've made, from 45m yesterday, I'm ranging from 55m-60m. The difference is mostly based from how many atk down frurbath land
Thank you guys, I don't think I can add up anymore damage unless I have Hochadir. but tbh, with the low accuracy that I have on frurbath, the crown never proc for me
I had to use Donella for fire trial 30 for the atk down. I was using Errich/Felicity/Tonalnon but couldn't cut it, so I swapped my tank for Donella. Took a couple weeks to scroll her up but it paid out
You could get a better chance by giving crown to Voresh. But you already hit the good score anyways.
Guys I would really appreciate your ideas on a line-up to close Pillars lvl 30. On my side I've tries it all but it seems impossible. Please note I only have epic artifacts since no leggo was duplicated throughout the season. Many thanks for your ideas in advance!
Previous analogue on a lower level went by Acilia+Hegio+Dane+Horrus+Felicity, but lvl30 seems to be way too far in terms of damage taken for them to survive. And adding Mithrasea reduces dps so I barely hit the boss(
Which heal did you use?
Gillian
The only one I don't have(
I thank the horn for the Gillian and two Felicity's
If you don't have Donella, Dane would work well with his atk down. I'm not sure how well Acilia heals though
So you suggest Dane+Felicity+Acilia+Errich+Tonalnan?
The game is under maintenance ?
You'd need a tank like Horrus. Swap out tonalnon, keep Errich/Felicity and put Dane on enough accuracy to land every debuff
Tank in Ancestral Protection I assume?
I would do two 2-piece sets of both the green instead of a 3-piece just for the +40 resist. If Felicity/Errich can't survive wave one then maybe swap to ancestral set
Dane's ult should help a lot with the boss fight, hardest part is getting a dps team through the first wave
I still need Dane fully scrolled though. Should I land his ult before bosses 3rd skill as well?
I forget if it's his last skill or the one before that, but yeah. I want to say the one before it hits harder but I don't remember
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Dane or Voresh? Who should I pick?
Voresh (unless nerfed in s1)
Voresh all the way id say
voresh too OP on arena and the heal is not bad too.
Dane is amazing too but Voresh is on another level indeed.
Voresh I play, Dane I benched as soon as I got access to other debuffers.
anyone beat 175?
Same team been in 150+- lvl
resistance and defense you have plenty of time to beat them
I also used Gardrus stun followed by durango and voresh with defense down and Jathalea last nuking them down with maybe 1-2 mobs left after 1 ulti
yeah i tried that line up before, but my durango just dies in 5 secs 😭
were your heroes all fully booked?
yes full booked and I run base defense of atleast 2K on all, sometimes Durango dies after he gets off his ulti but its too late when Jathalea nukes them leaving 1-2 mobs
Jathalea has 300+ enlightenment and 4.5K attack
This is my Jath, but there's no way she could burst all front liners down. assuming decent poison stacks from durango + Def II applied, and the brotherhoood attk buff.
she does around 200k-250k iirc
Add corrin to your team
you miss some stacks of poison with no acc on Jath but ya add corrin
Which one is better ? Sagerro kit suggest he is doing mental DPS, is that the truth if someone have and used him?
Voresh
Well, Shagrol (did they really change his name lol) works just fine on his own, he's like spec ops that you use when you need to kill specific dps in the back. The radiant guy though needs a whole team to build around otherwise he won't do much. So depends on what Rally you already have.
I use Lightning and Radiance as my main teams , not much luck with drops to create any decent team
Then Shagrol is safe pick, Tathlyn if you hope to get Loreenthel in future. But you already got Alvis that fulfills same role.
(tho Alvis sucks)
Thank you very much
Tath isn't in S0, so this is hard to tell. I can tell you that shagrol deals A TON of damage if built right and on the right team.
Thank you 😍
Any thoughts on who to select? Still hoping for legendary
Voresh
or new radiant healer
that new epic healer will he good too
Voresh will carry single handedly
Can you show Catherine's ult with details on?
Click on "Details" button
Thanks. Multiplier is too low. Definitely not S tier healer.
GG @cursive surge, you just advanced to level 2!
Who’s the better epic? Brody or Saggero?
GG @wispy cargo, you just advanced to level 3!
Hard to compare, they are completely different roles. Brody was super niche in S0, like you would only use him in two dungeons really. But a lot of new heroes have shield abilities so he may be more widely used now. Shaggy is just good dps usable mostly anywhere.
Bet the whole thing will be diffferent. An entirely new strategy I am sure.
As I recall, Brody had that super niche purpose, but was also just a decent hero on his own too. Maybe not top tier but definitely not bad. Not like Enna who basically sucks but is super helpful in the niche of needing a huge team-wide cleanse.
Brody would be nice option for a fire tank if not for the fact that we all had Horrus 🙂
Congrats. I'm new to the game but seen her as S tier having a very high DPS.
Where you can see tier list?? 😮
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Sorry, I don't know that answer. I haven't played the game yet. Waiting for Global Launch on 9/19.
Ah i see
With the new elemental affinity rotation, are there any hero comps that will be strong this new season?
GG @soft quest, you just advanced to level 1!
Frurbath + Wild Heroes is strong for vortex.This lineup should help you getting them ranks on vortex.
Lightning + Radiant is an interesting lineup. There should be a lot of new 'ranged' Lightning/Radiant DPS and with the new Radiant Epic Tank that can be as strong as Frurbath.
Ice/Necro i think seems weaker with the upcoming affinity-meta. Ice still have Elecebre and the Ice-Lady Dragon for PVP.
Ice was strong even for purely mono-element and necro isn't really that weak it's mostly just the summon necros that were nerfed bad from CBT1 to CBT2. All the synergies have good strong options, which is kind of the point, so you'll probably fall into the typical meta of using whatever elements you get good heroes for.
Still seeing necro teams in top 20 PvP on the strongest/hardest server.
I just see no decent instantaneous healer for Ice/Necro(that is not on Epic-Lego rarity) that might help them for pve content as a f2p player.
If you either pay a bunch of money or play a whole season you'll probably develop a full enough roster that you can start just playing whatever element appeals to you the most.
Thank you, I'm thinking about which character to choose for the event, but with so many new characters it's difficult. I don't know how strong they are.
But I see that I won't have many options, since I'll have to play with the characters I get in the gacha XD
Is Vortex the main thing you consider PvE content? Because Voresh can heal most PvE content while you progress through the game, he did for me for a long time in S0 because I got him and Dallbam early.
like gear dungeons/domains.
Pretty much any PvE content that doesn't smash the whole field with some giant AoE, Voresh + Dallbam has it completely locked down.
especially if you wanna tackle higher level of those dungeons.
Meggan is being used in top 20 compositions in PvP, she's not as bad as people act like she is.
i know she's good, i use her too, but there are some situations that you might need instantaneous healers
There is definitely a shortage of healers as a whole in CBT2 roster, for all elements, and especially for F2Pers. I haven't checked out the new heroes enough but I imagine they gotta add at least a couple options there.
Outside of legendaries, the average "decent healers" of an element in CBT seems to be a little less than 1 maybe.
Necro: just Meggan. Fire: nothing. Lightning: Only situationally, Enna
Technically the best ice non-legendary healer is actually a shielder (counts as healing) and is the main character. Obviously Voresh is a "better" character but you can't quite call him a better healer.
Radiant has a whopping 2 non-legendary healers, and one of them is COMMON but has a great healing passive
Heksandra carried me through most of the season though. We all started out with her I am sure she will still be around. Later on I got Furbee but did not use him much as the season was ending. I agree they certainly nerfed the Necros and am hoping to see some really good ones as well as the lightening.
I actually didn't even use her til super late game since I had ice MC, Voresh,and Dallbam
Any tips on ice/poison trial 30? I have Auster/Hochadir/Trolgar/Jathalea and all the epics for frost/poison. Team seems to die quickly on wave 2, and when I tank through wave 2 my dps can't kill the boss in time
wave 3 is too disgusting. The boss hits way too hard and fast.
2nd wave more harder then boss
i could clear wave 1/2 easily with highly burst line up, but against boss my dps cannot survive.
Actually If i try harder i might be able to clear but 1 dice isn't enough for the effort.
hola, when I get home I will message you my line up
New guys passive seems potentially broken. Aside from that I haven't hit a single leggo and only a few epics from pre gift horn
Nah, invisibility doesn't do much in this game. He can still be killed with basic attacks. And most bosses straight ignore invisibility.
How did you get the app so early?
Im cbt player
Anybody know where I can preview the possible traveler skills?
Poison and necrosis are sub-affinitiys, the Main character can only swap between the three Mains, ice, fire, lightning
Do we know if they are improving the main characters?
No wording about it
Seems strange to me that main character stats have no affect on combat. Seems like a total miss
I love my main but I can easily replace him with another character damage wise, but his shield is good
who is better sagomir or hochadir?
hochadir is the best frost applier, a utility/support/sub-dps hero for frost lineup. and Frost is one of the strongest team-composition currently.
sagomir is a tank-utility-subdps hero, he's decent, but only in some situations.
I will pick Hochadir between the two.
I struggle to do damage with my frost/poisen, my dmg dealers is flame but they lack heal
@viscid dirge there will be different elements now [Fire & Poison], [Radiance & Lightning], and [Necrosis & Ice]
Ja I can't wait Fire poisen gonna be wicked good next season!
just seen a trailer, not sure if it was cbt1, but Lightning-MC's utli seems to be changed.
Necro/Ice is my dream team without main character
Necro is where I slack the most right now
Has anyone seen a summon team actually completing stage 9 of any grave?
Summon don't have enough dps in s0 without all legendary,and not enough healing
I've beat em the problem is remembering the gear used, coz I can use the exact same team but if any gear is wrong the lose
And you have legend dps? Or your main dd that epic.. forget name
Epics and rares most times I forfeit my main. And Ive only had one Lego for whole journey
This?)
Ah so you went full summons basically that's wicked, I had more poisen, radiant and fire summons so my scroll focus was there
And I only got my Poisen Lego 2 weeks ago which sucked
That one heal .is to weak and i have no idea how to survive
Jip that's why I'm happy to see fire/poisen together next season
I hate that gailoere doesn't duplicate the abyssal summon from schlarch unless you manual it
His dps to low for legendary hero,im trying increase attack or enlighten and dps same 💩
Hello! Can you help me to choose which hero should i choose in preregistration event?
I got Toadstool, Rephe, Deverick and Naguk.
Well a Lego is always nice to have, the flame girl and necro bull is new so can't say and orc can be quite potent
any support or tank with attack 2 down will be useful
The problem with a tank having debuff is that you have to focus on both defense and accuracy which I feel hinders things, I had two tanks but one was accuracy based for debuffs and crown but his def nse was low so he turned into support character and my other tank was built defense but then his debuffs never hit coz of low accuracy...it's sometimes difficult to decide
wasnt bad having my tanks with 3700 defense 230 acc before buffs and 60K hp
Furby is a beast
could be luck on gear rolls but doable
Ripeka in arena had 2500 defense 230 acc 250 resist 60K hp before buffs
in holy hunter set
2 stats are achievable. Heroes like Durango, you need enlightenment, Cr, Attk, Crdmg, Acc lol. So most people just focus on Cr/Acc as it's impossible to get all those stats
ya Durango was rough to gear
@viscid dirge I don't care about def,just max my hp and acc
My treasure😁
This with epic art shield
I care when comes to furbath as his healing depends on it and then my tanks.
I struggle to balance between attack, crit, crit damage and hp on alot of my damage dealers..
Martina or Nathaniel?
Second is new,firs(martina) fine
Anyone have any experience with this one ?
New Hero
dont think so its new unit
@shut glacier ultimate is good but i dont skill
@shut glacier but even without that looks solid already like dps char and reducing healingis interesting
Hmmm who to choose?
Catherine's group debuff immunity is awesome though
this are my current heroes from rare and above rarity, which team would you advise me to concentrate on?
you can make an amazing fire team to start with
Was hoping for help selecting a hero from these?
pull more. that epic seems to suck. but an epic is an epic.
yeah i only just signed up, so this was all my pulls unfortunately
Hochadir or Voresh?
For those looking for horn choice help still, check my tier list video and link a few videos up here #📹┆creator-videos 
Glad i watched ur vids. Almost threw this guy away
ahhhh
he's so good! i want him for a radiance team
he sounds like a better version for Frurbath
full board heal
If it is not bothersome I didn't find any of my prepicks on any tierlist but if you could check and maybe suggest a solid option from: Tioh, Kaledor, Sigrid, Wusa, Salian, Shook, Gerana, Nedda, Nimbus
So I need a bit of advice , who to pick from pre-gift and who will add more to my team radiance chick or lightning guy, and those are the teams I'm currently working with. Input from veterans will be greatly appreciated 🥳
i would go for Garius, your radiant Tank-Healer. like everyone said, he might be as strong as Frurbath
That's the existing team from in-game
oh.
I don't have the resources to top them up
you dont plant to bring Voresh, even 3-affinity is fine early game.
Tahtlyn or Saggero
I have him, atm ice are my main team
if you plan to make a rally team. then the Radiant Rally Tathlyn. Saggero(Shagrol) is a nice backline jumper but his use is mostly for pvp.
i think you have a lot of radiant materials right? have you tried using a radiant team instead? since you can still reset them now.
Garius, Hegio, Tathlyn, Iola, +1(If you want to bring Zeffi)
Just started... any suggestions?
blow more horns 🙂
Need more oil... 😔
use guest accounts, and link later with gmail 🙂
👍
Yeah can someone help me choose my epic to start game with?
Should done that... linked first now I'm stuck with this lol
The pirate guy is a good choice
Checking in with a help me pick from the horn too 😄 I'm mainly looking at Sylphlace or Ihuicatl from what I gather?
what do you want, a dps, a healer or a tank?
a healer right(base on your choice of Sylphlace(Sifris ingame) or Ihuicatl) ?
Sifris is a good healer/reviver in cbt2, but need a sub healer to be effective
Ihuicatl is a situational healer(only heals when below 50% iirc)
Is this epic decent?
He's one of the best epics in cbt2, so yes.
Sweet! Thanks!
Honestly just something decent for someone starting out. It just seemed like those two were the "best" options out what I got
Thank you for clarifying about her name tho, considering people been saying Sylphlace is good I wasn't sure why I couldn't find her in IvyLeeGaming's tier list... she's listed as Sifris there and I didn't connect the dots xD
really hard to say since most of what you pulled are new.
So ingame story you get
Main Character(changeable element, mostly use as Fire)
Heksandra(Poison Healer, one of teh best healers in game, even with her being Rare)
you get 3 more heroes, but these 3 heroes are what you need to replace as you progress.
you get a Fire tank as a reward on day 3.
so I would suggest a range dps, which you dont have in the hero you provided.
Ill list what you have and their pros and cons.
- Follie - 'Wild'-fire Single target range-dps, might be decent in a wild team
- Caraman - 'Wild' fire single target melee-dps, a backline jumper
- Gardrus(his name is different there iirc) - range sub-dps, more on utility, can push back enemies, and have resistance aura.
- Hegio - Rally-radiant melee-dps, he is one of the strong epic-rally dps.
- Naguk - i like his skills, can stun and when his ultimate is on, the aoe if his ultimate becomes the whole battlefield, could potentially be strong if geared right
- Ihiucatl - conditional healer, i dont like her.
- Volthug - seems like a melee dps that can off-tank
- Sylphlace(Sifris in game) - a good healer only when paired with a sub-healer, she will die healing your team as she sacrifice her own life to heal if you have no sub-healers
I did try to find info on them in here so I had a rough idea + from what my husband said I was already thinking about keeping Sylphlace/Sifris and going Poison/Fire. He did mention we do get a second poison healer early on too so I can just run both
Ihiucatl - conditional healer, i dont like her. - this made me crack up 😄 Appreciate your help on this! ❤️
Means all radiance? Or can do radiance + fire?
How good is this guy?
Hi guys, I'm new here - haven't played the game before plan plan to since tomorrow. I need help with picking the preregister So during couple of my rerolls, I received following Epics. Which one would you recommend I pick?
Garian
Eches
Isolde
Nathaniel
Olgen
Radiance + Lightning now in S1; poison/fire, ice/necro
With which heroes?
Soveliss or Ishtaryan, my only 2 epics
errich tonalnan dane/isolde horrus heksandra for example
Advice on choosing?
dalbam
Any tips for how to make guest accounts? Even from incognito, it keeps logging me to the same guest account
who should i pick here, gadnus, zadok, hegio, catherine
deleting and redownloading the gift app works on iOS Perhaps clearing cookies on your browser?
I'd go with Cathy. She will do great in high level vortex thanks to debuff immunity buff. Though in early game you usually don't need healers so if you want to focus on pve then hegio or gardrus.
Clearing browser cache worked. The only problem now is, I don't know how to trigger manually the "connect with an email" . And that it's not easy to create new emails anymore. I think I'll figure it out soon, thank you !
So just delete and redownload gift app works?
I already tied one account to my apple account so connecting it later might be a bit troublesome
But that account has Eches, with might end up being my pick, although I did get a Garius as well ... boy it's hard to choose.
I have dalbamn and thurnus... which one of those should I choose?
You still have a couples of hours to spam redownloads and pulls. Lol. It only took me like 2-3 hours to pull Felicity
Though fair to say she was the only lego I pulled, after which I stopped
My account is linked via apple so...
Is Toadstool any good?
I heard they are a good starter. The legendary right?
Pick recommendation?
I like the orc so far. His kit is deadly, just he's more melee dps rather then tank (although he can survive a bit)
Thanks!
Thoughts?
Already open? I dont see any server
How you guys play??
I'm new.. im so confused why you guys able to play
Then how did you come up with line-up or how did u guys screenshot the heroes
Meaning? CBT?
nah there is/was (events over now) where you could use a summoning horn to get a free hero when the game releases
Where to download this?
But event is finished
Can someone please send me the code?
how can i predownload it on steam?
Folks is Garius a good character to pick for the presummons event?
No, the event didn't over yet, look at upper-left notice
I read somewhere they extend the event
the hero selection lasts for 6 more days (if you didn't select already), but you can no longer blow the horn
Ah i see, didn't notice before
any rally experts here
Wont let me summon
Where is this? Ingame?
Oof they both suck tbh
Pre-gift event, but it's over
why they guna make it a pregift event but close during the pre release lol
I never did pull a legendary either so pre-gift seems meh and over hyped.
Not for me. I summoned Felicity
What team should I use for PvP?
Is this a good one to take from pre register only legend I pulled was the horse guy sagomir
Yeah
Thank you
If you guys had to pick between one of these 2 ice tanks, which would you take?
Id probably pick Elvis since i do like bringing-in off-tank that could potentially deal damage.
Who to pick
yeah i need an opinion on her too. she seems pretty great.
Question , would those work together
maybe better than Hegio
yes. as they are both 'Dauntless'
but be warned tho, Dauntless heroes tend to be really weak early game
If I read it right and RNGezus is on my side this mean that potentially this ult can hit 15 times
I'm working on my lvl 70 team and they clear whole screen with their ult atm
PVE ofc
thats how Dauntless heroes work, effects are triggered whenever they do basic attacks. problem is they tend to lack aoe damage 🙂
Mr.Sparky "tank" Naguk seems to be enough for the moment on aoe side , not brilliant , but they are holding on
I need some insight from expert, whose gonna works well with repiccas later?
your poll is kinda limited. and you probably already know the affinity atm is ice/necro. so any of those in affinity.
Ok, and what about necrotic damage mean?
click the <> next to the details, to see what increases the damage
Ohhh, i get it, thanks you!
I give you nothing for it
Who should I pick?
what race is good? Dwarf?
race doesnt matter
Can I have some help
For what ?
I only got rares and would like to know if any fit for the beginning or mid run
I posted a screenshot just a couple lines above
Could I also have some info on the MC? I read that it was playable and customisable so I wonder if it's a core of the team or replaced
Some games just totally replace MC so I was wondering if that will happen here.
Mc will be core for a long time and depending on draws even till endgame
He can swap Affinities between fire ice and lightning so he can fit any team
If I can complete story with the MC that's cool cuz I like immersion.
And on the heros above... doesnt really matter tbh
So do we walk around the world or is it instance based
So I can just choose whichever I like in terms of design I guess ?
any new good hero combos for going through the story from s0? I had Frurbath carry me through s0 so want to try a different meta. Have summons been improved?
Trying necro this season but not liking it so far. What do you guys think I should do? Legends I currently have. Maybe poison?
Would be a hard team to kill
Hello there
if you run into purely defensive team you'll lack in damage to break them
Do you have still your vortex lineup in s0?
Just search this chanel, it's all here
Man, we are in same guild lol
DRagor obviously
I haven't check the mm list yet, I saw Dext also active here
What units I should be going for?
Pls tell me why 😭
Is nathanial a good epic?
I have these and Felix, but I don’t see journ and vicana on tier lists, is there an updated tier list somewhere?
Is Kamari good?
whats the best option?
archeologist
I did soldier but I know literally nothing aabout the game :p
@finite turtle @light dune here are the epics
any help on a lineup would be greatly appreciated
Felicity I’m supposed to get as pre-reg eventually, but I’m not sure how good the other fire ones I have are, especially since the epics for it seem crappy from mine
y’all know how to kill chaos?
Personally, I ran Traveler + Heksandra in rear, Martina, Forbrit, and Noteera in front.
Lineup 1 : Huberg, Acilia, Gillian, Iola, Hegio
i guess my line up is bad
share your summons
its easy if you level your chars to 10, and have their equipments upgraded to +8
i didn't have full equipment or level up gear lol
most fails because some did not know they have equipments that can be upgraded