ISAT Musical (A6 & 2Hats Spoilers)

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YES

[old radish]

Let's focus. What are your favorite lines we've tossed up

"I want to wear something he's sewn
I want to see her hold her own
I want to -ee the tales she's ___
I want to be there when they go home"

the tales she's cone /j

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the tales she's cone

[old radish]

tone

tone?

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tone's good

[old radish]

tome

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no clue how it'll work but it can work

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tome!

[old radish]

What about home it doens't quite rhyme??

So Tome?

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n and m are such simelar sounds that it doesn't really matter

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Something something read from her tome..?

I want to read the tales in her tome?

[old radish]

"I want to wear something he's sewn
I want to see her hold her own
I want to -ee something tome
I want to be there when they go home"

What about the new -ee rhyme?

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Hmm

[old radish]

I want to yippie something from her tome /j

decree?

too formal for sif

But it's a word

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FIHKSDJGNLSKJHSFKH

[old radish]

I want to plea /j

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Siff would yippee

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Free??

[old radish]

I want to free something from her tome

something so vague sif pls elaborate -Odile

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oh yeah I forgot one of the original lines I wrote for mira was I want to see her more carefee

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That sounds like he’s taking them from her-

[old radish]

It very much does.

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we could try AB AB CD CD style rhyming?

[old radish]

Hat Crime.

I have no clue what these letters mean it will take me five minutes to decipeher them again

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dklhjdlkfmhd

it's to show the matches

[old radish]

I knowwww

urg ok

"I want to wear A something he's sewn B
I want to see A her hold her own B
I want to -ee C the tales she's ___ D
I want to be there C when they go home D"

okay

um

wear see. Sewn own is good. there ___. Home tome.

Feel and see was the OG rhyme

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what I mean is we could try to just completely divource Mira's see own thing from Isa and Bonnies to just make her match Odile

[old radish]

Hmmmm

Ok so Mira and Odile.

And Isa and Bonnie

home and sewn. there and wear. I guess we can now do whatever with Mira and Odile.

wait no-

First try!

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yeah!!!

[old radish]

So, rhyme master, what should we do with these two?

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jngskjdfgmlmg gimme a minute

[old radish]

Of course! Take your time. I still have notes to organize anyways.

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I want to discover who she'll be I want to uncover what she's seen?

if we're using a ABAB CDCD structure we can probably get away with the syllable difference in the middle rhyme but be and seen feels like a stretch

[old radish]

Okay I confused myself. What's the problem?

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It’s pretty easy to get away with rhyming in songs

[old radish]

(Also it's very good!!)

"I want to wear something he's sewn
I want to discover who she'll be
I want to uncover what she's seen
I want to be there when they go home" I feel like we need to swap around the lines to make them sound nice but that is beyond my paygrade /j

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don't think there is one just that I don't like rushing words to make them fit and I'm saying since Mira and Odile and Isa and Bonnie don't share rhymes they can be treated as seperate

I want to discover who she'll be
I want to uncover what she's seen
I want to wear something he's sewn
I want to be there when they go home

AB AB CD CD

[old radish]

Yeah!!!!! It sounds cool!!

Nice work Hat!

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:3

alternatively you could made it AB CD AB CD to order it like the game, then it'd go:
I want to discover who she'll be
I want to wear something he's sewn
I want to uncover what she's seen
I want to be there when they go home

[old radish]

Also works well! Up to you, Hat! :)

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Im tired and cant think so no notes rn but weh! I throw this on your doorstep

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< lying lier who lies

[hot folio]

I’m just imagining the beginning of each loop when Sif wakes up always starts with the “Wake Up Siffrin” song , at least the beginning part of it. And it changes tone based on the vibe as he wakes up

• like in Act 4 ||right after Bonnie it’s dead silent and it takes a lot longer to kick on like there isn’t even a static moment||
• Act 5 ||it creeps in or just slows down kinda like the slower King Theme during his breakdown and it eventually pauses, then goes up to the slower speed||
  -….oh yeah he gets up before Mira has a chance to get him on both of these instances so the “wake up Sif” song doesn’t even get to start properly both times

[wet hill]

oh some good stuff here

i feel like you can get away with more than one line per "wish"

give it some room to breathe

and give you space to drop their names

[hot folio]

Also Act 5 ||basically a dark reprise of the opening song but in the pause monologe points he's doing the whole "THEY'RE GOING TOO SLOW" parts and also references the friend quests a bit too ||

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oh absolutely I was imagining those single lines as like the close off after a few lines going more in depth

like "I've already thought about them and what I want now it's time to actually say them for the leaf"

[wet hill]

ah!! yeah then it works

[old radish]

Notes pt 2 electric boogaloo (Spoilers all the way up to halfway through act 5). If anyone knows a way to better trim down act 3 be my guest.

I'll go into them more in the actual notes alongside the art, but I needed to trim them down to be easier to comprehend.

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again, a god's work in actually writing notes o7

also huh, for act 5 I was imagining ||the party off stage providing background vocals to resemble the (hallucinations? I still don't know what those we're)||

side note I thought of last night after the menu conversation, dunno if it'd work for a play but what if after the curtains fall there's crab soup cause the house finally got unfrozen

[old radish]

I think that’s a cool idea! I kind of wanted it to feel like Siffrin was going through it completely alone (You know. Besides the ghosts and stagehands.)

I sent those images in reverse order.

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Ah notes my beloved

[old radish]

-me when I make notes about going through the entire game for the second time ((trying to write an all achievement run))

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🫡

[old radish]

They never serve any drinks during the snacktimes.

Siffrin does NOT hydrate.

||Leaves the time loop, dies of dehydration immediately since they forget they need to drink.|| Act 6

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HA

[old radish]

Hey there gamers. /j

Fun fact: Those wavy lines are from Bonnie's shirt!

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THE CANTALOUPE CANDY!!!

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Fun fact 2, prologue spoilers: ||Hey look that candy is cantaloupe flavore- YES!!!!||

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THE RICE BALL DESCRIPTION DYGDFHYD

[old radish]

I used to be ('used to be' like I'm not still) a giant pokemon nerd. I saw my opportunity and took it!

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Extremely valid

[old radish]

Also Siffrin drinks absolutely nothing, so I put generic drinks, and my personal favorite drink. :)

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i look at my profile picture

[old radish]

Oh yeah!!! Credit for a fair number of stuff on the list goes to Hat. :)

[old radish]

Oh my gosh I haven't even looked at it in more detail that's adorable

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Hot cocoa is yummy

[old radish]

Hot cocoa is the best!!! It's so warm, and filling, and it tastes awesome!! It feels like relaxing on a cold and dreary winter day!!

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Thats hot cocoa!

[old radish]

I need to update my profile picture. It's a funny refrence to three people, and I can't bare to change it, but it's like three years old now.

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Hehe

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[sometimes I backlog for the fun of it] I just realized having coloured curtains could help with the fact the actors can't be fully monochrome since a vibrant colour would make the desaturated stage colours appear even more desaturated in contrast

[wet hill]

what if you make them blue

just for the funny

[old radish]

The curtains are blue. Because they symbolize...um. The color. /j

[little salmon]

tbh that would probably depend on what the venue has to offer if you were doing it on an actual stage

[old radish]

I'm guessing most places have a red curtain, but if they can't use one, I'd go for a monochrome one, probably. Another color might be distracting...? But Hat Crime does raise a good point. Hmm.

[little salmon]

talking of
if you get enough strinking contrast on stage with black and white props and setpieces
a lot of work can be done with lighting

oo just realized white backgrounds + ground lights
that's perfect combo for fun silhouette work
we worked with that in a staging exercise i directed at uni, shit looked awesome

make the king appear larger by putting a white bg behind the king
and putting a light pointed in front of him

[old radish]

Cool idea!!!

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Had an idea for how a clean transition from the star eating scene to the “wake up siffrin!” scene to the Dormont scenes would work! (Also just wanted to take a crack at the star eating scene, fun to think about!)

I know some people mentioned singing in the star eating scene, I can definitely imagine that!! I just didn’t wanna draw it-

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THATS SO GOOD…

[old radish]

Yeah!!!!!! This looks so cool!!!!!!

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Had another (silly) thought: what if we have the star eating scene being super dramatic and mysterious, immediately followed by Sif snoring super loudly /hj

[old radish]

That's just canon. /j

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I mean it would telegraph that the star eating thing was a dream

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I also imagine there would be some of that sunlight-esc lighting like in my favor tree sketch but I forgot to draw it

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The first time Siffrin dies and the game over sequence (glowing lines probably with a black light ) happens the first time, or every time really, could be them standing around responding to how they just died rather than floating.
First one has them looking around, Loop being like “come find me stardust!” cut all the lights (give time for the actor to hit the floor) then the lights go back on and it’s shot for shot the same thing frooty just posted minus the star eating part

[old radish]

Oh! Loop grabbing their attention by cutting out the lights is very fun!!

[hot folio]

Lights cutting as the rewind noise happens

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I like the idea of the Game Over screen being portrayed by the stage being in black lights!

It would make it all glowy..

[hot folio]

All the important loop backs are that into to dormont still shot for shot, although A4 ||Sif wakes up abruptly, freaks out, but still beats the opening sequence and the curtains have barely started opening again and he is SCRAMBLING he needs to see Bonnie!!||

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YES!!

[hot folio]

Like the sequence doesn’t have time to respond

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Siffrin going faster than the cues >>>>

[old radish]

"- Welcome to the show again, but this time Siffrin is just rushing through to get to Bonnie’s part" -straight outta my notes

Exact same idea

Let him speed through his text! Let him sing over his pals!

[old radish]

Two hat spoilers ||I just processed: We are going to kill the king in like two minutes AND on our first try (post one shot) because of time constraints. Loop is going to be so upset.||

||You spot them in the audience dropping their popcorn in shock as Siffrin does what they couldn't in thousands of loops in the time it takes to sing one song. You get back to the favor tree post Head Housemaiden and Loop is physically shaking. ||

Also according to my current notes this is going to take us ten loops total (if a loop is definied as a run starting from Dormont that fights the king. Which is how I have been defining them but not actually correct.) Two hat spoilers. And also, Start Again spoilers. ||Four digit loop number in comparison to just breaching double digits.....||

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musical Siff's a speedrunner

I assumed there was going to be a death compilation song somewhere in there to show how often Siff had to backtrack but speedrunner music boi is very funny in my eyes

[old radish]

I didn’t want to include the death compilation in my notes, but dang do we need it, or this is going to be the shortest time loop ever.

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||though I guess the death compilation is more fitting for|| act 3 or 4

[hot folio]

get between the tedious bits with it

[old radish]

Probably gotta do it in act 4- my act three notes are so long already, ||And it feels fitting.||

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hmmm I can try throwing together some lyrics and some visual cues for an act 2 house run

I've been trying to avoid any big lyrical bits though cause lyrics would depend on the music accompanying it

[old radish]

…alright, I was waiting till I was done with all of it; but I can send the notes for acts 2 and 3 a bit early. Artless though…

Yeah, we need music…I’m a musician, but creating the songs is a whole different beast to playing them. But hey! If you get me sheet music I can get you all flute and piano playing it! (And drums but I have no clue what I am doing on that thing to be honest.)

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Eilla I'm gonna be real I am procrastinating on an assignment due tomorrow you do not have to rush

[old radish]

Hahaha! I am actively getting ready for work: I do not have the time to finish the art. But I can probably sneak in dropping downstairs and screenshooting my notes.

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go whatever pace you want

I just once again choose one of the hardest to research topics for an assignment like an idiot and need a break before my brain melts

and working out how to condense an entire house run into like 5 minutes sounds fun

[old radish]

Make sure to take plenty of breaks!

Behold! The very disorganized fruits of my labor.

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...ok there's no way it'd actually work but imagine if the Siff actor had heelies so they could slide backwards for the looping back

[old radish]

I still need to clean up acts 4 and fowards, but you can tell by the line breaks where the art will eventually go.

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oh notes :o

[old radish]

HAHAHA no way that would work, but that is so funny. I love the idea so much.

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(I am now attached to this name) the truest of moods

[old radish]

Siffrin, sliding backwards to touch a tear: I need to loop back one sec. The rest of the team: ???????

ok ok ok I have to eat before I go to work, and if I don't go now I will be late. Have fun! Get your project done sometime soon!

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don't die!!

[old radish]

I. Won't??? Was that an option?! /j

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that post was right that is fun to say about a completely normal statement

[old radish]

Hey, if I do die I'll just loop back

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but then you'll have to go to work again

[old radish]

Oh wow you are right. Okay!! I won't!

[old radish]

Who was phone spoilers: I forgot I had this saved. One last thing from me before I go for now.|| (I forgot them in the art costume line up I felt so bad: Costume wise it's just a giant poncho, some gloves, boots, pants, and a necklace (that I completely forgot on my drawing of the statue whoops!!). And their mask can either be a theatre mask for the symbolism, or a plate for the silly. Perhaps when they mimic loop they use a theatre mask?)||

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wanted to doodle the heelies joke and it just became a blacklight lining experiment

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||the change god|| T-poses menacingly

hmmmm would the act 2 going through the house theme get ||reprised for act 3 and 4?||

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I imagine so

Also on the musical speedrunner thing (lol) I just figured there would be some of those “you don’t remember what you were doing last loop” moments and that going through the house would sometimes have a ton of loop sound effects in between scenes to imply Sif looping and stuff (maybe when finding info for friend quests? )

Though I don’t mind there being a small loop count!

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maybe there could be like one of those middleschool gymclass pushy things?

trying to work out how to show looping back at ||the missed key room|| while still staying in the same room

oh wait yeah I could just do what Eilla wrote and have them loop back to the start of the floor

I forget is there a star crest needed before the head housemaiden's office?

cause I was thinking for a Nostalgie fight maybe
[words words] give em hell!
[first time] glad to see it all went well
[repeat] ||B: what is with that weird sweet smell?||

also maybe ||the doll|| could be on floor 3 with ||all the dead ends||?

can't imagine Siff getting through that on first try

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Yeahh

[old radish]

We could do the nostalgie with repeat lyrics on floor 3! Since we want to run into the doll (and I guess the observatory too, me and my doll based metaphors smh) we will run into a dead end, then use a tear to go back, then when we need to defeat the Nostalgie again we can use that!! Plus, floor 3 is when Bonnie mentions the sweet smell anyways.

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LESSS GOOOOO

[old radish]

Act 3 implied spoilers I guess ||I forgot the stars on the kings armor asdfghjkl it's like I'm a character in the game with the things I forget sometimes||

Fixed. Sorry king.

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It’s the guy!

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Had a small thought. Act 3 ||I liked the game switching from "eyes" to "eye" from presumably Siffrin getting used to having one eye. And what if there was a piece of Siffrin dialog that changes. Like Siffrin say "eyes" at first and then says "eye" later which adds to the party's sus points in some way||

||Or its just a change in his soliloquies||

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That’d be neat!

[old radish]

who was phone spoilers: ||Hey; how are we going to represent Euphrasie (head housemaiden) glitching? Because I am thinking about the change god and their masks, and they imitate glitching Euphrasie for ‘keep giving us a good show’. Which is a very good line, especially considering that it literally is a show-so…. what do we do?||

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||Lighting cues/ audio / music glitching / maybe the way the actor moves is stiff and mechanical, in contrast to when she’s normal she’s more fluid and chipper in movement? || act 3 spoilers / who was phone) I am not entirely sure though!

[old radish]

||Psst. Hey. Does everyone want to design their own change god mask? || Still vaguely who was phone spoiler I guess

[old radish]

More logistics thinking: How many sadnesses are we going to see? How many are we going to fight? I was thinking just tutorial enemy, the nostalgies (mostly implied after the first few times), and big ball head for a more tough fight? Because it’s no longer an RPG, it’s mostly focused on the story. But battling these enemies over and over and over is part of the story.

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I keep thining of a sheet proped up on a roomba and Siff just punting the thing

as much as I meme on this I don't think it's a back idea

like, the shinyness of the fabric would mirror the tearlike aspect and the sadnesses in the halls are literally just blobs

[old radish]

Imagine. One of those drivable small toy cars with a wooden bucket on it…..

I want to include the genuine sadness designs, since I think they should be in there, but for any non important ones, perhaps? Hmm.

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fair enough

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I imaged there would be a person under the fabric so it can move around and make spooky sadness noises

Just a stagehand or smth

[old radish]

The silliest guys. (Art is phone quality because I am out at dinner right now )

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TGE DOG-

[old radish]

Trained dog on stage. Dad’s suggestion.

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Well your dad’s a genius

[old radish]

I mean all these seem completely reasonable to me!!

[hot folio]

The one [a3] ||Sif beats into a pulp|| should be one of the RC car ones

with something in it so when it's hit repeatedly it won't totally break the bit making it move around

but it can get crushed

[old radish]

One last who was phone spoiler, plus full game spoilers, plus implied two hat spoilers: ||I’m supposed to be working on finishing up the act 2 drawings, but instead I am drawing the change god. This goofball said that it was their time in the spotlight, and who am I to refuse. I sure do love drawings masks, but why do I keep having to draw so many per character! That being said, I can't bring myself to finish all of the change god's masks since there are so many and I am out of ideas. Bonus Mal Du Pays art I put in fanworks from a while ago since I love that goober, and while I was drawing those masks I kept thinking of it.|| Now, back to procrastinating Act 2.

Masks are neat!!

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WOAH!!

MASKS ARE NEAT!

[old radish]

Why'd I spoil that image. That image has no spoilers.

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I like the “God call!” On the sign lol

[old radish]

Who was phone spoilers are back ||Anyways, I just think the change god having masks of all sorts would look really cool! Bonnie's a bit like that lion mask, the head housemaiden's a bit like the cat, and so on! So much variety! ||

[old radish]

||They took over the scene so hard it changed the sign for once||

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Variety is the spice of life!

Also one this makes me giggle fhhdhfdh

o.o

[old radish]

o.o

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lmao the sick mask

[old radish]

Counter saga is done (act 2 all the way to act 5)!! Now onto plants. I'll post the counters and stuff with their respective acts! (Sorry act 2 is taking a while- I gotta make sure the art works for all the future loops too!)

[old radish]

||(Psst. Does anyone have any ideas on how to do things like the secret library or the head housemaiden's rooms? Because both of those entries are blocked at some point and I am blanking on how to show that? Especially with opening the secret library.) ||Act 2 spoilers I guess

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I imagine like a smaller area of the stage would be lit up and that would be the room

[little salmon]

yeah
split stage is probably the easiest way to do it

also there's other stuff that could potentially use split stage
lots can be done just with lighting

was in a play where we did split stage and one end was just me on a space ship and the other end was the control room
wasnt even really split off with anything but the specials
looked cool as hell 👍

[old radish]

Interesting! I have never thought about it before, but it makes sense! How very cool!

[old radish]

||I forgot about the coooooiiiiinnnnn! Coin gets a song all to itself as an apology. /j ||(technically this isn’t spoilers like at all, but to be very very very safe two hat spoilers)

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OMG WE FORGOT ABOUT || THE COIN ||

I CANT BELIEVE THIS

[old radish]

I felt so embarrassed

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WE ALL FORGOR…..

[old radish]

Shoutout to the video I was watching saying ‘never forget ||the coin|| haha’. I laughed, then froze, then immediately pulled up notes and added ‘||THE COIN||’.

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LMAOOOO

[old radish]

Good thing I still have time to add it

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||Coin|| motif

Not even a proper song it’s just a little note riff thing

That pops up when relevant

[old radish]

Me when the ||croissant|| motif

[little salmon]

oh oh idea: siffrin flips the coin every so often ||until they recall the memory in a4||

[old radish]

Because I already have done sketches all the way to act 5 ||Mal Du Pays||, I basically just snuck it into the background of some drawings (plus one or two Loop interactions). He is just fidgeting the entire musical with this thing.

Mira: "Why did the music change? We are just walking!"

Siffrin, fidgeting with the coin in their pocket: "Don't worry 'bout it."

[little salmon]

there is this method of character building for acting, where you come up with some sort of movement for your character (like a motif? with body language) that a character does to emote
and that would be a very easy type of movement to integrate into the acting/stage direction

[old radish]

Oh! That's very cool! I actually don't know much about acting (or theatre or musicals), so learning this stuff is very interesting to me!

[little salmon]

i love theatre and acting and stage directing! that's why i'm studying drama

(so if you wanna know about anything im happy to talk about it)

[old radish]

Cool! I hope you enjoy it, and my silly logistic rambles!

Anything you add would be helpful, I'm sure! I'm honestly just trying to piece together a coherent story that could conceviably take place over a long musical rather than a game. I honestly didn't even think of the coin until drawing for like 20 hours so clearly I'm going to miss stuff! Plus, hearing ideas and theatre stuff (idk how to word that better) is my favorite part of being in this channel!

[little salmon]

i said it before, but i'm happy to write a proper script for it with stage directions and everything
i love doing that stuff (currently writing an undertale stage play about it)

[old radish]

If you want to do it, you can! I'm doing my best to plan it out, but I've not got the technical terms/know how to do much. However, don't feel like you need to!

[little salmon]

one thing i think would be interesting to do with isat is take inspiration from beckett
(endgame and waiting for godot especially)
beckett liked to do the thing where the play implies characters have been doing the same thing over and over again since who knows when
and in waiting for godot you actually see that only like a couple things change between acts

[old radish]

That's pretty cool! Going to once again expose my lack of knowledge as I don't know what they are, but there is a reason Siffrin compares the timeloop to a play so often! I planned to just do them act by act, but I keep having to do the drawings by location to make sure that Siffrin is the one changing the most and the others barely seem to. Just thinking about the songs, it's probably only Siffrin really changing up the lyrics as well! It's very interesting to think about!

[little salmon]

waiting for godot
https://resources.saylor.org/wwwresources/archived/site/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/Waiting-for-Godot.pdf
endgame
https://edisciplinas.usp.br/pluginfile.php/3346220/mod_resource/content/1/ENDGAME BY SAMUEL BECKETT.pdf

you can find play recordings on youtube too

[old radish]

(When I eventually post all my art please act like every Siffrin has their gloves even if they don't. Actually just pretend every single one of them is on model since I totally have a refrence pulled up. /j )

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(We’re just spitting visuals out its ok they don’t have to be on model )

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Coin ||I think the Coin Song should happen right after Say It.||

||They should be connected together. ||

||Both The King and the Baker asking Siffrin to SAY IT PLEASE.||

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Oooh I like that

[old radish]

Hmm, interesting! I put it near the start of act 4 (since I didn’t have much there), but that is a really good idea! I’ll add that to my notes!

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|| I think calling it the Coin Song is kinda funny cuz it sounds like we’re talking about some kids show song about counting money. Nope! Just the trauma! || we dont have anything else to call it it just makes me giggle

[old radish]

||“We get a version of the ‘say it’s name’ chat, with flashes of red from the spotlight for extra dramatics.

We get to hear Siffrin’s thoughts (in the spacing out) about the whole situation as we once again hear ‘Welcome to the Show!’ attempt to start, to another rapid banana flavored death. We explicitly do not see Loop? Perhaps since the Loop hangout really affected them? And Siffrin is starting to rush…….. :(“|| my notes around here (act 3). Should I add just seeing the memory? Or do you think we need to talk to Loop after? Since right after that we get the transaction into act 4 and I don’t think anyone will be focused on the coin after…that.

||Considering the fact that I call it the ‘croissant trauma’ in my notes any time I don’t just call it ‘coin’, it’s very inherently silly for a pretty serious moment. ||

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Im not very familiar with how players normally progress after that secret so im not sure

Talking to loop sounds good though

A break (sort of-)

[old radish]

Yeah, I’m just worried everyone would be like “Wow, that ||coin|| moment sure existed!” And then ||Bonnie dies|| and no one cares about the coin.

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Yeah that would suck

[old radish]

||…Coin motif. “Say it” motif. For the King during that sequence, for the coin sequence, and for really anything involving the forgotten country. ||

Boy howdy do I sure love adding 9,000 motifs. I am so happy I am keeping track of them in the drawings because I am way to invested on songs that don’t actually exist.

[cloud path]

Siffrin auditions be like:

|| “ok can you flip a coin in the air and catch it reliably”

“huh”

“and are you comfortable with the possibility of wearing heelies”

“what” ||

[old radish]

This made me laugh way harder than it should’ve.

|| The auditions for the rest of the cast is just if they can do the same line deliverys and poses consistently, and Siffrin’s is “How fast can you have a mental breakdown? You have to be speedy we only have a limited time. Also, can you slip on a banana and die comedically while in heels?”||

[cloud path]

Mental Breakdown Musical Speedrun In Heels™️

[next kayak]

The idea of Siffrin being a character that Way Harder To Play Then They Look is fun to me

Or maybe they will look hard to play

Like how in Legally Blonde the actor playing Elle Woods is on stage for pretty much the whole show

If I remember right

Actually thinking about it, does Siffrin leave the stage Ever

Like as much as the symbolism would be fun OOOOFFFFFFFF

[old radish]

Poor guy is trapped until the curtains fall. The only break they get is like an intermission since this musical is probably going to be really long, but when everyone gets back they are already on stage. They are still in the loops, after all.

Maybe show all the rest walking back into the stage but Siffrin is already there

[next kayak]

The actor is going through it...

Method acting in that the actor is also feeling the time loop

[old radish]

I was supposed to be asleep three hours ago but this play is not letting me sleep. Siffrin buddy please take a rest. For my sake. /j

This actor has to go through so much. I am so sorry. Price of being the main character, sorry friend.

[next kayak]

If we do seriously make a stage production I think some breaks may just be required so the Siffrin actor doesn't form a Union

That and also some transitions could get complicated

[old radish]

I already wrote my compromise, but honestly I am unsure how typical plays operate. I’m here for the Stars and Time side, and I hope I’m at least somewhat being logically about the stageplay aspect since I know next to nothing.

[heavy inlet]

why not just make the intermissions the forgotten loops for when you don't have memory of self equipped

[old radish]

Very clever!!!!

“Hey Stardust, do you remember the loop where you just left Dormont and went backstage to take a break?” “…what???”

[heavy inlet]

FJFSNJLNFJNHGDFG I JUST GOT THE MENTAL IMAGE OF SIFF LITERALLY WALKING OFF STAGE

LIKE NOT EVEN TO THE SIDE JUST STRAIGHT UP JUMPING FROM THE STAGE TO JUST IN FRONT OF THE AUDIANCE

ohhhhhhh

ok I was imagining for the later deaths Gameover!Siff doing a little bow before falling to show how normalized it's become but what if a bow was a signifier for like "it's intermission time baby!!"

cause I feel like to sell the impression of a forgotten loop you don't show Siff waking up in the field, that's for after the intermission

so the last scene would be on inverted blacklight bullshit Siffrin for much longer than most deaths

[old radish]

A follow up to the bonus Loop mocking Siffrin art from act 1. Based on what you just said about Siffrin simply jumping offstage into the audience. “What did you just say you little-“ (sorry for bad phone doodle it is 2:19 AM where I am)

[heavy inlet]

IUHSFGNLIUSFJHNLSHLDGH

Siffrin but he's that one based actor from that cat on a tin roof play or whatever it was called

[old radish]

I have no clue what that is, so I have to assume that actor just jumps into the crowd to beat up random strangers. /j

[heavy inlet]

yeah pretty much

one of the audience members was being openly homophobic so he decked him

[old radish]

Fair enough!

Based actually

Siffrin would.

[heavy inlet]

hmmmmm now that I think about it, what happens if you don't press continue or whatever on the gameover screen?

might be a good question for the spoiler thread actually

[old radish]

||I think it just says ‘you cannot quit’ or some variation based on how far you are in game. I think it’s a very cool detail!||

[heavy inlet]

oh shit really

[old radish]

It’s very cool! ||Game says ‘no’!||

[heavy inlet]

[act 6 secret] ||well yeah can't have two Loops now can we? ||

OH

durring the intermissions the music still plays as if Siff's doing a normal run through but the curtains are closed :3

[old radish]

Very very very clever!!!!!!!!!

[heavy inlet]

like "yep, things sure are still happening, you don't get it though "

[old radish]

Combine that with forgetting the specifics of the Loop once we get back, and we have a full excuse! (Plus Siffrin (and co?) already being on the stage for extra flavor)

[heavy inlet]

I use Sifjoke a normal amount

[old radish]

Me with

[hot folio]

Muffled loop noises, intermission marks its end with the game over screen (music holds out a bit to give everyone time to sit back down) then the rewind noise, curtains go back up to the field

Honestly tho it’s probably the loops in the castle quickly trying to figure out puzzles between the Big Plot Points but still mostly forgotten loops

Loop refers to these like it’s a Noodle Incident

[hot folio]

"Remember Stardust? You figured out [tiny revelation thing that isn't super important]"
(You don't remember)

kinda nudge the plot along

[old radish]

I just had to pull up a vod to check the fish head dialogue for the first time we get it. My sketch just had Siffrin saying 'Yum!' The actual dialogue in game? ...'||yummy.||' (totally real important spoilers I swear /j). Thanks, Sif. real insightful commentary, glad I spent ten minutes to check. (I have so many snacktimes to draw- like 40% of this play is snacks /j)

[heavy inlet]

I hate how audio recording format on this thing anyway I was thinking I know for the two hats ||fight a duet would probably be the way to go but I kinda imagined it as like, Loop's voice following the (add on?) music while Siff's follows the main beat since Siffrin doesn't respond to Loop until the end so his lines would probably be more focused on "stay alive you're doing fine good"||

would this work as a central beat?

based on this concept take 👉👈

man there really are different kinds of confidence huh? I made my final English ISU crabbing ISAT characters explaining MLA formatting without a shred of shame yet I am sitting here like "I'm so fucking cringe how dare I attempt music in the musical thread"

[heavy inlet]

why many words when few just fine

[cloud path]

THE MUSICAL CHATS FIRST MUSIC!!!!

[heavy inlet]

god is it actually

[cloud path]

Yes

[old radish]

This happened when I was already asleep and by the time I checked Discord I was at work!! I have to wait hours to hear the first music in the musical chat….

checks at work anyways

It’s very very good!!

[hot folio]

sitting here with my limited music knowledge trying to sus out the BPM

said limited music knowledge means this'll probably be a demo of some sort

[hot folio]

shoot wait I need to change the file namr

Alright so I was already half-ready to do music doodles for some other project and then @heavy inlet went and did the melody and I locked on
This doesn't have to be The Song for [two hats] ||the Loop Fight|| but I'll throw my hat in the ring
(Please someone take this and make it sound better if they want, I'm only good at Vibes)

whoops I made the BPM a bit too slow

instruments are a bit weird too so like if anyone grabs it feel free to change that

I eyeballed the ||hint of the proper ISAT theme hiding in Loop's first song|| too

I imagine the slow bits between measures would be Sif doing the "push on keep breathing" thing

[heavy inlet]

kinda on me for sending it at 2 am in the morning

[old radish]

This is so freaking cool!!!!!

[heavy inlet]

[hot folio]

https://tenor.com/view/aww-gif-16188967694052533218

Thank you ^u^

[old radish]

Act 5 ||The only time I thought the cloctower was important enough to put in the notes was for act 5. Should we just not include the clocktower? How does Siffrin decide to go grab the orbs on their own if so? While the clocktower is important, I just thought it wasn't really neccesary, but then I was working on the notes for act 5, and. Hmmm. I'm just not sure what to do.||

[native burrow]

||please specify that the spoiler is for two hats instead||

[long lagoon]

A real explosion of activity here as of recent also very cool art by Eilla.

With all that’s been said so far stage crew is gonna be wild. There’d be a lot of moving parts both literally and metaphorically. Probably give a few members of stage crew a specific job each like 2-4 people operating and moving the king, 2-3 people changing all the change god masks, 2-4 people giving and taking any handheld props for actors as needed, 1 person to chase the loop actor off stage with a broom, and 8-10 people moving around the environment stuff.

Now I’ve never done logistics for a musical… that is all, so take this with a theater popcorn amount of salt.

I’d personally love being a stage hand because it comes with less pressure than being one of the actors and with the general tone for most bits you could do a silly little dance whilst doing your job and nobody would mind.

[old radish]

"1 person to chase the loop actor off stage with a broom"

[little salmon]

honestly for the king
the easiest way to do it to just have the actor in costume and play with lighting (i love silhouettes all my homies love silhouettes)
rather than have a huge movable object
some props and setpieces can obviously be moved on stage by actors
but you'd probably want a 5-10 stage crew members probably

[long lagoon]

If somebody gave me a silly little star person outfit and told me to play loop I’d get lost in the character real quick. Legally a new person at that point.

I could not be trusted with that power.

[old radish]

Yeah, doing all this art is me forcing myself to come up with logistics and struggling with it. (Ex: The table prop being used in mutliple of my drawings is the exact same table. So is the bookshelf.) But the people? There has to be a lot of them. They get the advantage of being allowed to just be seen by the audience after a point in my art (since I think it's neat to see them and if helps with them being (act 3 I'm pretty sure) '||the universe||'), but even then. They've got a lot on their hands. I have no clue if that's at all similar to any other plays- I would bet so, but they have so many different scenes. I had to take notes on what props could be allowed in my art.

Loop has so much personality they literally are given the same voice by everyone I have watched. Someone I watched tried really hard to give them this low intimidating voice, and three sentences in caved into the Loop Voice^tm. Loop is far too powerful.

[long lagoon]

Damn these budgets! I wanna actually ||alter the audience’s memories mid performance with a jay gun||! (Spoilers)

[little salmon]

fjfjfjdjfj

[old radish]

JAY GUN?!?!

[long lagoon]

Honestly in retrospect I don’t think I can be trusted with any amount of power.

Mad scientist coded

[old radish]

Foxifer coming onto the stage and pointing the Jay Gun (vague spoilers) ||Memory Eraser|| 3000 at you to help with immersion

[long lagoon]

It’s an honest living.

[little salmon]

whats a siffrin-coded song i wanna reference a 2016 meme but i forgot that music exists

[old radish]

||Stage hand who's job it is to make sure everyone in the audience had their memories wiped correctly... /j|| techincally vague spoilers

[old radish]

I am currently listening to a song called 'Timeloop'. So um.

[little salmon]

men in black

hm actually this gif might be too much

[long lagoon]

Also I just realized since the loop mask absolutely will not have a mouth while them having a bucket of popcorn during parts of the performance is 1000 times funnier. (End of act 6 spoilers) ||the first time loop goes for some popcorn they look a little confused why the food don’t get in the mouth hole before touching their face/mask and quietly going “oh… right…”|| something nobody but maybe a few keen audience observers would notice.

[little salmon]

alternatively they just eat it under the mask, it's never explained how they do it

[old radish]

I've never even considered it.................. I keep having to remind myself not to draw Loop a mouth, and thought them with popcorn was funny and only realized after I had commited to the bit that they wouldn't get to eat it with the mask on......||in character lack of popcorn..............||

Thinking of that comic someone made where Odile brought Loop something to eat.

[long lagoon]

Just throwing popcorn by the handful at their face.

[little salmon]

thats too much of a mess whoever's cleaning after a performance would kill you

[long lagoon]

Cleaners will not be happy.

Yeah

[old radish]

Also psst the ||loop fight is two hats spoilers, not end of act 6, since you can do act 6 and not get Loop! :)||two hats

..............(literally has a joke where Loop tosses their popcorn)

[long lagoon]

Guess that’s why the stage hand who will chase off loop has a broom.

[old radish]

The supporting crew is going to murder me

They start sweeping up the popcorn, then hit Loop with the broom to get them back on stage for act 3

[long lagoon]

They will trap you in time loop jail for your crimes

[old radish]

No!!! I will have...infinite time to draw. Actually that's not that bad- no!!!! No one will remember my art in the next loop!!!!!!!!!!!

[cloud path]

Truly the worst part of the time loop..

[long lagoon]

Also remember to have loop put up a sign for the audience telling them not to throw food or drink during performances as that is their sole responsibility to avoid a possible popcorn throw chain reaction.

[old radish]

Loop, pissed off and about to toss their popcorn at Siffrin: [Now kids, don't try this yourself!]

[long lagoon]

Granted I think popcorn throwing ended as thing people do 20 years ago when popcorn started costing over 20 dollars.

[little salmon]

the audience isnt actually allowed to eat in a theatre

[cloud path]

[PLEASE don’t throw popcorn at the actors!!! I however, am an exception!]

[little salmon]

so there would be no food to throw anyway

[old radish]

....that actually makes sense. Can you tell I have no knowledge of anything theatre and am crab-ing my way through?

[cloud path]

Loop patrols the audience before their entrance to check for food contraband

[long lagoon]

Fair but the stack time scenes will be a little cruel in that case.

[little salmon]

it's incredibly bad manners to eat during a stage performance

[old radish]

Loop, getting popcorn out of a person pretending to be an audience member- [Mine now! No food in the theatre, everyone! I, however, am an exception!]

[old radish]

That makes sense, I suppose! I did not know!

[cloud path]

Yeah now that I think about it I don’t see concessions offered at those usually

[old radish]

The menu.....is for before and after the show, I suppose!

[long lagoon]

Monopolized the popcorn supply for the theater

[little salmon]

went to a concert once and had to quietly judge a couple in their 50s eating fucking chocolate i wanted to strangle them

[old radish]

Sign on the door says no food allowed in the auditorium*! (thanks Frooty!). And the asterik says [Actually, one person is allowed, but they are not you!]

[little salmon]

well during intermissions people usually go Outside the theatre and have drinks and snacks at a bar

[old radish]

Perhaps they did not know better...? I bet there would have been signs saying not to though.......

[cloud path]

*auditorium! You got it!

[old radish]

I am learning a lot!!!!

[little salmon]

oh it was a fancy concert hall they definitely should have known

bc we were all taught proper manners p young

[long lagoon]

I wonder, because of time restraints, would any of the non crucial side quests be included? Obviously not doing fishing.

[old radish]

I have not done anything Dormont. The only side quest I included (I think) was 'who was phone?' (||the change god||) For obvious reasons if you know it.

[little salmon]

plays can get p long so there's not as much of a restraint on stuff
i think having some dormont stuff would be good to relieve tension and also give some npcs a little more to do

[old radish]

Any ideas on things I might have missed that should would be appreciated, but also, we have to be careful about the amount of stuff already here. Don't want too much! (||I am still debating what to do with the Orbs scenario btw aaaaaaaaaaa we don't have the clocktower and it's needed for one (1) scene aaaaaaaaaaaa ||) Vague spoilers for act 5

[little salmon]

one tip i have is that stuff you think will take A Lot of time will be shorter than the stuff you think is Very Brief

[long lagoon]

Why can’t we just put the audience in an actual time loop? Why must we have time constraints and ethics?

[old radish]

Ain't that always the truth...still have yet to post act 2 but I have done every single counter scene..........

Why can't we just the audiance?

Not mocking just confused.

Thanks! :)

[long lagoon]

Typo

[old radish]

Yeah, they would get the message much quicker that way.

I love discord since you can just edit your messages. It's so nice. They make it so easy.

[long lagoon]

Now don’t mind me whilst I trap myself in a time loop for grammar crimes

[old radish]

Which is great, since I mistype a loooot

NOOOO

Foxifer how many loops have you mistyped that sentence already

[long lagoon]

Dyslexia is a pain.

[old radish]

I am promising now that I will have act 2 done next week. (and maybe act 5 honestly at this rate, but I can't post that next, now can I? ) ||....Bonnie says trying to keep a promise is the important part okay???? || Act six spoilers

[analog grove]

I feel like if it’s art unrelated to the musical talk it would be better to put it in #creators-corner if it’s non isat related and #fan-works if it’s isat fanart etc ? So that way people can see it and appreciate it / in the proper channel and doesn’t get lost or buried

[old radish]

Hmm. Maybe so! Let me put it there then. One moment.

[analog grove]

👍🏾

[old radish]

Scooted over!

[old radish]

who is phone, and up to act 5 spoilers. I just needed a timeline for each loop for myself, and then I spent too long on it so you get my awful handwriting as I think way too hard about some things. I should probably do these for each individual loop...but I'm not sure if I actually want to put that much time into them.

(Also included is a version with the actual background songs playing through the parts, rather than just the individual scenes. These aren't songs (most of them anyways)! Some have motifs attached for their part of each song, but they are mostly just parts of a bigger song. )

This was also an attempt to procrastanite finishing act 2, but at least I was somewhat on topic??

Timelines in the time travel game...

[hot folio]

There’s gotta be a point where we do [two hats] ||Sif correctly guessing that Loop is them || maybe in a bit where a few loops are skimmed through, broken apart by Loop conversations, and the music stops for a second as Loop responds to it

Like midway through the montage (if there is one)
Or!!! After an intermission where it can start right up with a Loop and Sif convo

[old radish]

Most loops have a bit where Sif and Loop talk- we can certainly fit it in somewhere!

[abstract laurel]

What if Siffrin got a callout song

https://youtu.be/PHLFv8q50oc?si=XAjj8W5sFHHlW9Tr

[old radish]

as someone with a lack of musical knowledge my first thought was 'callout post' so now I'm just imagining Siffrin doing a call out post at the (act 3) ||universe||.

Oh! I do know that song type actually! Okay!!!

[abstract laurel]

||> So you say what you need to say

And you play who you need to play
And if somebody's in your way
Crush them and leave them behind||

So you got what you always wanted
So you got your dream come true
Good for you
Good for you, you, you
Got a taste of a life so perfect
So you did what you had to do
Good for you
Good for you

[old radish]

Act 5 ||In Act 5 I guess? Either post failed friendship quests, or right after they beat the king? I don't really know how well it fits in, considering how they go one by one, but you could certainly make it work! If it's post king fight, it could be ended abruptly by Siffrin falling over from exhaustion, but maybe that's too comedic for that act. If it's in Dormont, that could be the catalyst for them stealing the orbs? Which would solve that annoying problem that I keep bumping into. But how would you fit it in? I like this idea a lot! ||

Good For You is a banger btw.

[abstract laurel]

Post game spoilers
||Siffrin and Evan Hansen aren't super dissimilar characters||
||One of them lies and deceives way more, but their ultimate motives are similar||

[old radish]

I can see where you are coming from, a little! You...might need to spoiler that though? Maybe? Unsure.

[abstract laurel]

||If you listen to "Words fail", it pretty much applies to Siffrin 1:1||

[old radish]

||I am going to go relisten to Words Fail now. Because I want to reply in depth to that because I totally agree.||

[old radish]

Most of this is whole game spoilers so I'm just going to spoiler basically everything, but there is an optional achievement spoiler as well which I marked seperately. ||"I never meant for it to go this far." I mean ain't that act 5 in a nutshell. "I guess I thought I could be part of this. I never had this kind of thing before." Very Siffrin feeling line about wanting to be part of the group. "No corny jokes." (Isabeau.) "That's not a worthy explanation: I know there is none. Nothing can make sense of all these things I've done." Another incredibly Siffrin line. "Except sometimes you see everything you wanted, and sometimes you see everything you WISH you had, and it's right there in front of you." Literally uses the word wish what more can I say?? "So you make it true." ... "This was just a sad invention. It wasn't real, I know. but we were happy. I guess I couldn't let that go." Family loops 'Because you made them' sounding line right here. "No, I'd rather pretend I'm something better than these broken parts. Pretend I'm something better than the mess I am." Another very very Siffrin feeling line! He would say this!! "Because I've learned to slam on the break. Before I lead with the worst of me- I never let them see the worst of me!" Looping back to before he makes any mistakes if anything goes downhill. || Siffrin sus quest achievement spoilers: ||"Cause what if everyone saw? What if everyone knew? Would they like what they saw? Or would they hate it too?" In game he actually says (paraphrasing) 'Why don't I want you guys to find out? Maybe because you'd hate me! And I don't want that!"|| Back to normal spoilers: ||"All I ever do is run. So how do I step in? Step into the sun?" Rogue with the highest speed saying all I ever do is run....and the end takes place with the sun out by the head housemaiden....|| All right there's my ramble on the topic. I sure do love overanalyzing lyrics.

[abstract laurel]

I love this analysis

It's so good

Crucial to understanding Siffrin's character is that ||he hates himself||

||He sees himself as unlovable trash and that nobody would actually want to spend their time with him||

||So he has to "trick" them into it||

[native burrow]

||please spoiler these lyrics for act 5||

[heavy inlet]

kinda fun just hitting random keys until you get something that sounds decent, I guess I'll continue sending random... what are these things even called...

... I forgot to download them give me a sec

[old radish]

I was wondering what you were talking about.

[heavy inlet]

tried thinking about the house this time

[heavy inlet]

yeah lmao the wifi went out before I sent the elaboration message

[old radish]

The first one definitly feels like the house!

[heavy inlet]

you can probably tell I don't play piano much

[old radish]

The second sounds more upbea (who was phone and late act 2 spoilers): ||Perhaps the change motif, or maybe the ending theme that plays when you talk to Euphrasie?||

[heavy inlet]

jvjsgifj sure

[old radish]

I like it! I do play piano and flute- I could contribute. However. I am not very creative musically.

I like the house one a lot!!

[heavy inlet]

I made it more upbeat cause it's probably going to have lyrics and be playing for a while considering the house is like, the main setting of the game

I have very limited knowledge on chords but I know they usually make stuff sound good so

[old radish]

Chords. The bane of my existence. /j

[heavy inlet]

I am discovering I have a 3rd face association when explaining things and it's one of Isa's sprites that's not in the emoji list apparently

[old radish]

Oh! Which one?

I guess that's hard to answer.

[heavy inlet]

this one I think?

[old radish]

Oh! That's a very good one!!

There's one close to it, but they certainly don't have it.

[heavy inlet]

it's not the same without the crossed arms I don't think

[hot folio]

I’m only good at music demos and have fragmented knowledge of chords myself I totally get it

I don’t remember which one is which but I know the minor and major chords have a slightly different setup. (Piano roll wise)
One is the base note, a note 3 up from that, and 4 up from the second note.
And then the other chord is 4 then 3 from the base note

I also know how to arpeggiate chords where you alternate between the base note and the other two that make the chord and gradually notch down the base note

[heavy inlet]

huh

[hot folio]

It’s a chord split apart like in that Off I Go song that was in Grey’s Anatomy

Probably other ways to split it up though

Hard to describe Music Stuff when I don’t have proper terminology

[heavy inlet]

well glad at least one of us here knows the music words

[hot folio]

I saw one video and internalized it and did like 5+ music doodles with it

[heavy inlet]

valid

I should probably try to actually learn how to play stuff but also- hehe key go brrrr

[old radish]

Act 6 spoilers, 'who was phone?' spoilers, and implied two hat spoilers. The art has been divvied up by song! Since I started having to scan through all the art to make sure it was in order, and then they started accidentally getting mixed up act wise, and I wanted to make it slightly easier for myself. (There should actually be way more 'How Can I Help You, Stardust?' songs, but I just incorprated them into the other songs after the first one.) ||((Isn't it funny that God Call and Coin Song ended up right next to each other? I did not plan that. At all. I guess a lot needs to happen in between the new normal of beating the king and the chaos that is the end of act 3 and act 4!))|| (((First one to guess what those 'X's mean gets internet points.))) ((((All these have like three drawings in them at the least. Except for act 6 and for some reason late act 3. I have a long road ahead of me, but at least I've chipped away at them!))))

15 drawings left in act 2! Why is act 2 so long.

[hot folio]

I still need to figure out how to flip a melody upside down or whatever the common way of symbolizing reversal of the motif is

[cloud path]

I think people will just

Play it backwards

[old radish]

Yeah. You could also just play it in a different key, perhaps? And like. Slowed down/sped up?

[little salmon]

you can either flip it
or mirror it

i'd say playing it backwards works
add reverse cymbal to it

[old radish]

I'll ask here because why not. Do you know the optional content ||secret room||? If not, there's spoilers hinted at ahead, but not directly mentioned what they are. That, and up to the very end of Act 3 spoilers (this mentions Act 4 but not anything that happens in it!)|| Anyways, I put in the act 2 secret convo, but I'm debating where to put the Bonnie conversation ("Oh, I think that's what Nille did! You know, my sister!" or something). I think it should be included so we can use this part of the song/scene again. It can't be in act 2, since Siffrin finds the secret room and then lore drops on us in the last loop of act 2, so then it should be in act 3 or act 4! Act 4 might be a bit too late, though the first loop of act 4 doesn't have much in it so it could be an option? Plus, that would up the pain of Bonnie's death that just happened at the end of last loop. The two options I'm really thinking of are act 3, loop 1 (setting up the family loop) or act 3, loop 2 (the family loop). They both have things going for them. Mentioning Nille by name early to make the friend quest more impactful and give us more Bonnie moments beforehand, or a somewhat dark moment in the overall reprieve of the family loop with the added knowledge already of who Nille is. So, what do you guys think? I was hoping that typing this out would help me decide but I'm still indecisive! Act 3 Loop 1, Act 3 Loop 2, or maybe even Act 4 Loop 1?|| I think I spoilered this right, but this thing is tough to talk about. If I need to fix anything, just say!

I've been spinning this in my head for the past ten minutes.

[native burrow]

optional content spoilers ||please spoiler mentions of the secret room for optional content||

[old radish]

That good?

[native burrow]

sure yeah!

[next kayak]

There's a Groundhogs Day musical??? I've been looking for a timeloop musical to help picture how timeloops would work on a stage

[hot folio]

Oh dang

Is it online anywhere?

[next kayak]

https://youtu.be/oA91CE3CLMs Here! Warning, there have already been a couple suicide and sex jokes around 10mins in

[old radish]

This is great. I'm going to have to take some time to sit through all of it, but it's worth it for lines like (spoilers for the video haha): ||"Do you ever have deja vu?" "Oh, I don't think so, but I can check with the kitchen!"|| The way they change locations so fast is so impressive!!

And the little rap bit where he lists possibilities.... this is so neat!

[old radish]

There is a bit I skipped in the middle, but overall it was really charming! I loved watching all the cool stage tricks, and I really like how they reuse conversations! Thanks for sharing!

[next kayak]

No problem! I think it's good to see how timelooping would really look like on stage instead of imagining it

[hot folio]

I got to this a bit too late and my app block triggered but I’m absolutely looking at that as I work tomorrow

[hot folio]

Okay saw the musical, I like how they did the repeating loops of Phil trying to get something right, and also loops mashing together as a way to show that he did the same thing repeatedly. I could see the former working as a way for Sif trying to find stuff and just cutting through multiple loops at once

With some Loop convos in between

[old radish]

Yeah! The quick loop backs are really cleverly done!

[hot folio]

I gotta watch it again on a bigger screen to get a better read

[heavy inlet]

not much but it's been a few hours and I wanted to send something

wait

mild act 3 spoilers

[old radish]

So cool to see it animated!!!!

I am chipping away at the art but I am stuck trying to draw the (optional room for a while) ||observatory|| on stage. It’s not that hard but I keep pushing it off. When I’m done with that though, I can post all of act 2. Then I’ve got just the ||friend quest|| art and I’m done with the first few loops of act 3, so those will be right after. Act 2 is such a pain and I did not give it enough credit when I started this whole thing.

[heavy inlet]

yeah, act 2 be like that

[analog grove]

THIS IS SO COOL..

[hot folio]

NICE

I'm imagining Sif's actor scrambling a bit to drop to a more relaxed pose

[old radish]

Siffrin, collapsing into a sleeping position with a light thunk: I'm fine

Act 4 spoilers: I will come back to this ||door||...later. I am now two drawings away from finshing up all of act 2 and like 6 drawings away from being done with the first half of act 3. There's your update.

[hot folio]

I’m thinking of how the Dormont/I Wish (intro) song basically being the Dormont theme that gradually shifts into something more fitting for an I Want thing

Like the OG theme is the baseline

[old radish]

Oooh. I like it! Starts with the game song, then develops and grows into something original?

[hot folio]

And after the first loop, Sif has their moment of “DID I JUST DIE?!” to ambient noise, then the Dormont theme fades in again

[old radish]

I really like 'The Journey So Far", aka the song that plays when it gives you the lore dump in front of the change god statue. So maybe we could keep hints of that for that part. But like as we talk to the rest of the cast, it shifts into the new theme?

[hot folio]

YEAH

[old radish]

Yeah!!! I wrote down having a different song there in my notes (specifically the game over one so it can come back later) because I really like the idea of this moment not happening to the peppy Dormont theme.

[hot folio]

If we’re going with how the Groundhog Day musical did the rapid fire loops for trying to figure stuff out (our montage loops) the loop back to that point is just all the themes up to the castle with the tempo sped up but still on key

Detective style music references the castle

[old radish]

I have been trying to fit this rapid fire loops idea in and it's killing me. I know where it should be but I can not make it feel natural. I won't give up thoush since I think it's such a cool idea.

[hot folio]

Fair point!

[old radish]

There's not many loops where nothing happens in In Stars and Time, which is a great compliment for the game but also makes it a struggle to just speed through a section for a cringe compilation of Siffrin looping.

[hot folio]

Maybe the bits where they have to run around the castle to find different things but you gotta loop to do it

I might board out a rough idea

Or a music doodle

Would really be the bit before they actually reach the king

[heavy inlet]

I mean if this were an animatic I'd probably have it set to like jerky/jumpy music if that makes sense and have it just be Siff in the snack rooms everytime as "new location"

[old radish]

Yeah- my thought was this one section in act three ||where ya gotta learn about time craft, talk to the king, loop, find the news articles then dead end in the observatory, then go to the diary. I got rid of the dead end in the observatory after some debate but I just don't know how to make it feel natural???? That would be where I would put it though. You can even make a joke about misssing those freaking news articles.||

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but I don't know how to translate that to a physical environment bound by time

[old radish]

This section bugs me so much so it would be nice to change it around. But like. Urgh.

[heavy inlet]

but we did already talk about how to convey spacing out so that could help with explaining why some rooms get skipped

[old radish]

It would...

Me when act 3

[hot folio]

Groundhog Day had the scene with lights cutting out, alarm sound, then the same scene again

[heavy inlet]

I know how Euphraise's office works in my head but I haven't thought about much else

[old radish]

I'm gonna send half finished act 3 at this rate. /j

My notes are just as scrambled as my thoughts on this act being translated.

[heavy inlet]

hmmmm, you planning to go with this order cause I can try to work something out

[old radish]

Okay let me struggle to place the order that I had been thinking on doing (but disliked so very very up to change)

[heavy inlet]

I think my animation autism can probably come up with something

[hot folio]

That I could see with ||them not finding it, rock, Mira like “…..oh it was in there”
Sif with a look of pure “ARE YOU SERIOUS” looking at a tear for a beat, reaching out. Lights cut…
Back to right outside “Good thing I got the key before the rock fell! Thanks Mira! ^_^” ||

[old radish]

HA! I like that.

[heavy inlet]

oh I was imagining like- hold on I sent an image before I think

[old radish]

I forced him back to the snacktime to make him do plants again, but we could easily scoot the plants scenes back one. I like this idea!

[heavy inlet]

I was imagining something like this where the rooms are split and Siff slides back onto the room during the little death liefmotief

[hot folio]

The music also cuts when he damn near facepalms

[heavy inlet]

instead he facetears

[old radish]

I have a tear prop, and he

yeah

Hat Crime beat me to the joke

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[old radish]

Seriously Mira? ...ugh. Turns directly into tear

[heavy inlet]

hmmmm I still have the animation layout pulled up lemme do a lil animatic to show what I meant

[old radish]

"Stars, how did I miss that?" more likely since he is totally blaming himself over Mirabelle.

[hot folio]

“Glad we got it ahaha!” Everyone looks away and Sif puts his face in his hands

[heavy inlet]

slams his head on the desk

they have the opportunity

[old radish]

Okay so it goes. "Hey, we need a key for this door!" "....it's still in the drawer." "STARS-" loop sound effect "Glad we got it first try everyone!" "some line where siffrin secretly insults himself"

[hot folio]

If anything the montage loops would only be for the A2 drudge up to the king because after that loops get more important/interesting

But that can be workshopped

[old radish]

Yeah I debated that, but since I removed the crying mask key, and kept just one dead end there's not much there. I suppose you could go to the other dead ends and add back in the crying key if you wanted to but I just felt like they weren't necessary.

[hot folio]

And Sif forgetting loops after ||killing the king and definitely after the Friend Quests didn’t work to end it || they’re just not paying attention as much and there isn’t as much of a need to speed through loops

[old radish]

Also totally an option!

[hot folio]

It makes sense I mean

Also ||Sif asking the townspeople what they wished for should reference the opening song but it has an almost manic energy as Sif puts their wishes and the house maiden’s list together and has a breakthrough, a bit unstable sounding || [End of Act 4]

[old radish]

||Stars I forgot to include this moment!!!!! Oh boy I certainly need to- I love the slow realization every player seems to have at this point that it's totally Siffrin's wish that caused this.|| Act 5 spoilers.

[hot folio]

||Skip through the house pretty quickly since we’ve seen it all and we only care about killing the king and getting to the head house maiden and it’s the opening song straight up but it doesn’t get cut off by Sif’s first death. This one sounds normal…almost triumphant. The chord progression doesn’t properly finish at the Euphrasie part || EoA4]

There’s a Music Thing where if you miss a note or do a chord a specific way it just sounds wrong, unresolved

I don’t know the proper term

[old radish]

I understand what you mean! (I also don't know the proper term)

[hot folio]

“I just need to talk to Euphrasie aaaaand….”
[music slowly turns into a droning noise]

That whole bit would be eerie as all hell

Like in canon

[old radish]

Actually really really really late act 4 spoilers: I dislike this drawing but I think the idea is fun.

[hot folio]

I’m imagining lights slowly going out or at least dimming to a single spotlight as Euphrasie hits the “i just hope someday” bit

[old radish]

||Siffrin actor number three: I never get to blinding do anything. ||

I wasn't sure what to do with the lighting here but it certainly has to be something. This moment needs to feel weird and wrong.

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well, we've mostly been sticking with ||red accents right? maybe a pale green lighting or something?|| my go to for making a scene weird is to fuck with the colours but ISAT makes that difficult

[old radish]

||Cursed cursed cursed. Only red allowed!!! (<- has already used green) /j|| Implied act 3 spoilers

[heavy inlet]

hmmm

[old radish]

I'm not spoiling something from act one. I swear it was only meant to be slightly green.

[heavy inlet]

maybe [act 4] ||a little led on the back of the party's head so the backlighting will make the ghost Siffs in shadow?||

[old radish]

I'm imagining Euphrasie in a green dress and actually I think she would rock it. /j

[heavy inlet]

yeah, apparently pink is a viable option for blacklights

[old radish]

I have no clue how that would work. I'm honestly just thinking we use the act ||Mal Du Pays costume || x2

[old radish]

That. Is a possibility.

I'm good with that, actually.

||Pink in a threatening context......... ||

[heavy inlet]

ok tbh it is red it's just not red red so it's pink to me

[old radish]

That's pink. In our hearts we know it to be true.

[cloud path]

Lets gooo!!! It was silent in here for too long but I couldn’t think of anything to talk about!

[heavy inlet]

the eternal mood

[cloud path]

Truly

[old radish]

Love seeing this channel active again. Nothing more encouraging. But dang Frooty do I get not having anything to say.

[cloud path]

Head empty… opener was the only thing I had a good image in my head of….

[heavy inlet]

like usual this channel is being used to procrastinate on my ISU

[old radish]

I have a pretty good mental image of this play which is what caused me to start this entire freaking project. Except, apparently, the blinding ||observatory||!!! <-I've put it off for like 3 days straight

[heavy inlet]

what do you need from the observatory?

[old radish]

I just. Don't wanna draw it.

[heavy inlet]

fair a fucking nuff

[old radish]

I literally only have the king left to draw other than this thing. Why is it so tough. It's just a room.

[heavy inlet]

so you know what you want to do with it and motivation's just being a bitch?

mood

mood as hell

[old radish]

Watch me stumble into the Discord with all of act 2 and most of act 3 and the only thing that's missing is the ||observatory||.

[cloud path]

Hmmm ||observatory|| could use another projection ||for the stars||? Or just a wooden panel with the ||window and stars|| painted on

[old radish]

Yeah, we already have the projector- wait have i talked about the projector

We have to have a projector. For reasons that will be clear when I put the art. (It's the sign. And the writing above the door with the ||funky language|| (<-techncially an act 3/4 or something spoiler) above it. And a bunch of other random assorted things.) There's totally a way around it, but like it would be easier. Probably. I have no clue what the logistics would be.

[cloud path]

I have! (Mentioned a projector)

[old radish]

Yeah! We are in agreement about the projector!!!!

Plot relevant projector. /j

[cloud path]

Had to find the message aough

Plot relevant projector

[old radish]

Impressive you found it so fast!

[cloud path]

Fast scroller am I

[old radish]

What in the world is the layout of House floor 3. (hypothetical question)

[cloud path]

What in the world is the layout of the house

[old radish]

I have learned so many blinding details about the house from this art project

Like did you know. That the candle and the key room are AFTER the counter interaction and the Nostalgie. I never processed it until I was drawing the candle room again for like the third time, and had to check a video to make sure I had my drawings in the right order.

[cloud path]

Huh!

[old radish]

I always for some reason thought the counter was the last part of that floor, but it's not. At all.

[cloud path]

Interesting!

[old radish]

You'd think this place would be easy to memorise, but I guess it would be easier if you actually have played the game.

[cloud path]

I remember floor three has:
||-a ton of hair
-keyknife
-uhhhh
-the bathroom..?||

[old radish]

Ha!

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[old radish]

It goes mirror room, pass by language door and the key I removed near mirabelles room, Nostalgie, pick a tear, and then bathroom keyknife snacktime. I..think.

Oh! Interesting question! Act 4 ||How do we do the bit where Siffrin responds to the language door question with an incomprehensible answer? I feel like we oughta have them say something, but the characters say in game that they didn't hear Siffrin say anything (or immediately forgot, perhaps). ||

[cloud path]

In this college production of Eurydice I saw there’s a part where she can’t talk (or can’t be understood?? It’s complicated-) and they had it where she would move her mouth and they would play a static-ish sound effect over it

[old radish]

Oooooooooh

Intriguing!

[heavy inlet]

once again I don't know why I can view this on my phone but not my chromebook

[old radish]

It turned out great!!!! So incredibly cool!!!

[cloud path]

YEAH!!

The one time I am without my art tablet is the time I want to do digital art…

[old radish]

I'm finally heading off to bed, but it was fun hangout out and drawing with everyone! If I don't get the act 2 art in here tomorrow you guys have permission to paper alpha V me.

[cloud path]

Gn!!

[old radish]

||How does one stage trick a puppet to look like it is holding a child??????????????|| Insanely late act 3 spoilers. Like last minute of act 3.

[old radish]

"His hands do not need to be articulated since they are always in a fist (lying)" From my notes. He literally does an attack on you that is not in a fist in every battle with him (act 5) ||(minus the last)||. Though honestly we could probably get away with not doing it........ hmm.

Also have the funny brainstorm list I was using for myself but you guys might get enjoyment from. Optional achievement mentioned that somewhat spoils end of act 2.

[old radish]

..you guys can paper alpha V me. I will post it when I wake up and can actually organize my notes while not half asleep. Arts done though. I think.

[cloud path]

Ha! Seriously tho you’re ok go eep!!!

[old radish]

Boy howdy it has been a while since I sent these, hmm? Perhaps I should send the next act, teehee!

Okay, sorry for taking so long (I literally drew so much why do I feel the need to apologize?) but here is act 2!!! Last time we left off, we had just finished our first run through of ‘Welcome to the Show!’ and died for the first time. Then, we heard the song play again, with a baffled Siffrin totally nailing their lines (not at all) before stumbling to the Favor Tree, where we heard “How Can I Help You, Stardust?” and learned from Loop (to inform the audience) exactly what just happened, and explained the loops somewhat. Wanna see those? Scroll back like a month! Anyways, we are off to struggle through the house! After chatting with Loop, we can poke around town if we want (I don’t care enough to draw anyone sorry Dormont), (we skip the clocktower sleepover I think,) then we open the doors of the house with the orbs (which we need for later in the show reasons), and then we adventure through the house again. I decided not to change the sign much throughout the play, despite the song ‘Welcome to The Show!’ That’s being projected ending. It only changes if something special happens. Or at least that’s my excuse and I am sticking to it. We get to see them fight the tutorial enemy again (with Siffrin skipping most of their silly banter which in act 1 is probably is more to teach us about craft than to teach us ‘the game mechanics’), and then we dodge the rock trap. The rock is probably a beanbag or something.

We walk by a tear, setting up what these tears do, making Bonnie sad. I originally planned to walk past them without getting frozen, but we should probably use it to set up Siffrin looping back to spots other than the beginning for the Head Housemaiden’s room specifically. Which is what it does in game. Actually kind of funny to think that the game and me ended up settling on the same conclusion- I should’ve trusted the source material!

We then pass the taciturn room- we comment on not knowing the passphrase then talk about what passphrases are. This conversation takes a bit so when we do get in here we can talk over the same part of the music when we do enter the room, perhaps.

We then bump into a counter, and talk about crabs. As one does. We obtain our first key here, meaning that we have to go past this counter each loop. You might note that I removed the Nostalgie and row of tears before this- I think we don’t really need this one, and we need to remove some of the fights.

Hey look the lighting is messed up on that one (I did it before I got used to the way I was doing lighting)

I merged these two rooms because they felt too simple on their own, and why not. Normally there’s a key in here- unsure if we should keep in but we come in here often enough. I moved Mirabelle’s sword into here since it’s normally in the armory/forge room and I didn’t include that room (sorry sharpening stone fans- I didn’t think Keyknife or Bomb were worth trying to include :( ). I want this sword to make it in though, because I think the ‘the item glitches out of reality’ moments are neat!!!

Big Ball Head. We struggling our way through the fight, both the choreography and our lines to show that we are at a normal level for now. The projector projects an image onto its head- Maybe its head is flat but is meant to look round? I talked about it in the costume/character drawing images. Who’s job is it to hangout in the rafters and puppet the sadnesses, king, and drop multiple boulders? I didn’t really consider how these puppets work when I decided they should be puppets.

We experience our first snack time! It’s just a nice moment for now. We pick banana chips, mostly so we can save the other options till later. Crunchy! I kept scanning through vids to check what all these dialogues would be. Very tough. Also, the snack on the board are mostly for art reasons and probably wouldn’t be actually there for the show. I just shrunk the snack drawings so much you can hardly see them and felt bad about that.

Plants moment. They move out of the way. Siffrin says nothing during his spot in the song, and the moment passes.

…oops. The Head Housemaiden’s key is blocked. Time to touch a tear again, and loop back! Hat Crime did a great animation of this moment which I retroactively think is the best way to do this- but without the tear loop back earlier we wouldn’t have established that we wouldn’t loop all the way back to Dormont so we should probably include that. (I have to go rearrange all of the plants drawings now, which honestly I should have seen coming...)

We grab the second key needed to pass, and get past the head housemaiden’s office successfully. Siffrin is probably beating themselves up over it.

Impleid act 3 spoilers I guess? ||Oh look a diary I’m sure this won’t be important|| (features Siffrin poking the hollow wall that leads to secret library but not finding it- if we want Siffrin to make a noise when they do this they can poke the wooden frame?). I guess we could put a key in here as an incentive to enter here..? There normally is one, after all. Whatever the case, we enter it this loop.

I didn’t inclde the Nostalgia here either, since we are probably going to always go the right way. If you want to include a dead end though, please include the doll! I like the symbolism and parallels to us a lot. I am also not including the floor bosses here, as I simply don’t care about these two, but nonetheless we reach snack time two. I needed to keep track of what we pick for these for the friend quest, but we do not want to pick pineapple here with how many deaths we already have had, so either madeleines or fish head. I decided on fish since most people I have seen play immediately go for the fish.

Brief intermission since someone just DM-ed me which odesn't happen often

Mirror! <3 Very important for a few scenes for the photo to be there. The mirror needs to be able to fake a reflection in act 5 then print the real photo but also let people see them. Not sure how we’d pull this off but I tried when I made the prop list (which I'll have to post as well at some point). For now, we are surprised in the reflection.

We see the language door. This can happen in the background of a sadness fight, to help imply that this we do have sadness fights often in the house, and also so that the door feels important but not too important that we need a full scene to just see it. The words are probably projected onto the wall. I just did some scribles- I'm sure there's a clever way to do it but I'm uncreative.

In Mirabelle’s room, we poke around (If we want to include the bomb now we start looking for the parts for a few loops after this, but honestly I don’t think we should include it- it feels like it would take too much time and also too much effort so I persoanlly didn’t include it. It is very fun to hit the king with a bomb though…). Mirabelle mentions not going in her drawer for the foreshadowing.

Our first Nostalgie fight! The battle takes most of Siffrin’s focus- probably commenting on not being able to tell what type of craft it uses- so Bonnie’s comment gets cut off. “Hey what’s up with the Nostalgie getting its own theme but not other fights?” Um. (I forgot to include a fight theme…? ) No it’s totally intentional I swear!!! Very planned! These guys are special!!! Obviously!

............listen-

We go the wrong way here. In my personal opinion, the observatory is a bit more impactful than the orange poem room, so that’s the only wrong way I’m including in the musical (there can be other wrong ways, we just don’t actually see Siffrin going down them maybe? Maybe in a death compilation. I have no clue how to include dead ends you guys deal with it /halfj). If we don't go to the dead end on floor two we see the broken doll here. I know that’s not where it goes but I don’t care this doll is very cool and I like it a lot. I’m sorry for the unfinished drawing- I’ll come back to it later I swear!!!

We touch a tear, loop back, go through floor three again with a very annoyed Siffrin (mentally) beating themselves up for going the wrong way. The mirror occurs again with a smiling Siffrin.

We can 'fix' the Nostalgie lyrics here, now that Siffrin is more prepared and nows what to expect. Bonnie mentions the sweet smell.

We go the right way this time, (I am also not including little Marc’s notebook key (sorry Marc) if you want the death compilation here you can include it but I also removed the room it was in so...) so we get to the bathroom and are all hyped about beating the king. You can’t make out what Odile and Bonnie are talking about. Do we include the toilet paper roll here or wait until later? Actually, I kinda like the idea of removing it in hindsight! Ignore the toilet paper in any drawing of the bathroom, it's actually not canon.

Change god statue time! It gives us the keyknife, we hear the change motif (hey wouldn’t it be cool if the Change motif was in Mirabelle (and to a lesser degree Isabeau’s) friend quest theme?). Some trick with lighting or something lets us hide it’s expression for now- we totally have to, as it would completely ruin the moment the first time. Ideas for how this could work? The face could be caved in a bit so that the light doesn’t hit it directly, perhaps. You may notice that I did not darken this drawing. I would love to say it’s intentional but it really wasn’t- I just forgot to as it was one of the earlier drawings (that’s also why the other characters are…hmmm). I think it could be neat to have different lighting here (late game spoilers) ||(like it does in act 5- if I wrote act 5 spoilers that would probably spoil it due to context clues)||, but it’s not necessary.

Snack 3 time! Mira gets her emotional beat, and we enjoy some malanga fritters. ou know I could’ve just redrawn these scenes to have Siffrin turned to the audience…why do I always have them looking away. Please note that I don’t typically really want the characters to be looking away so the audience can't see them when I draw them looking away- I just do it without thinking and then don’t want to spend the effort fixing it. There’s gotta be better ways to angle stuff, I just didn’t do it. (“Mira is sad we enjoy fritters a lot” was the original note here. Mirabelle being genuinely upset by our love of fritters had me cracking up so you can have that line too.)

We finally reach the giant puppet of a king, and hear his song. It uses similar instruments as the house theme to tie them together (and maybe slightly similar to Siffrin’s and Loop’s because they are mirrors narratively), and it’s slow and powerful! It probably has hints of the game over motif in it as well. The jerk one shots us. I wasn’t sure how to do all his hair, so I settled on giant cloth. I don’t know how I feel about the idea. Bonnie runs away, dropping their frying pan with a clank.

And that's the end of 'Let's Get to The King!' AKA the first part of Act 2!!

I kind of want to keep the curtains open until the very ending, but I can imagine that wouldn't really be feasible. So, the curtains probably close ( ) and the scene clears up.

Anyone wanna chat before I post the rest of the second act? I don't wanna spam the chat TOO much...

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This was awesome as always Eilla!

[old radish]

...ight, intermission over. Time for 'Shield Spell Get!' whose name I would totally be willing to change if anyone has suggestions.

We loop back, and suffer through ‘Welcome to the Show!’ again (albeit with a slightly more confident Siffrin actually saying their lines). It’s also much shorter after the first time since we don’t spend as much time getting to know the lore and our friends, and the second time with it's stumbling around. This play is already long enough as is! It can be repetitive, but no need to make this play 30 hours long by including everything. (<-fun fact this line was in here since I first wrote down my notes for the first time! It's probably one of the oldest lines in my notes!) We get another chat with Loop. After the last chat, they left the stage and have been hanging out with the audience watching Siffrin’s quest. They chat, and we talk about the things like the King (and Loop gets to complain about the jerk as they rightfully should). They are playful and quote things from their first few interactions in the game. When asked for help, they first playfully mention to not eat pineapples (would’ve been helpful sooner but we are spared from pineapples for now). After an annoyed response from Siffrin, they talk about an ‘easy place to loop in town’ (Loop totally sneaks in a banana pun for those in the know), then when Siffrin sighs in tired annoyance, finally mention the librarian maybe helping somehow.

We ask the person about the open phrase in the ‘poke around Dormont’ section of ‘Welcome to the Show’, then we once again go into the house. Since we got the passphrase for the storage room, we see a strange book to brush aside for now and have the ‘Taciturn’ interaction- with a ‘taciturn. They don’t like to sing.’ flavor. The bookshelf I used here is used all over- one real book, and many fake ones so it is light. The real book is used for many book based events. It looks more detailed rather than the fake ones so it’s easy for the actors to know which one it is.

Oh the lighting is messed up on that one as well.

Nya.

Mira tries to take the sword again, and we see a stagehand, AKA the most important character, replace the sword in front of us. For now, it is treated as a comedic beat. Siffrin complains about a headache.

Now that the sword’s gone, we also get the vodka interaction this loop. Since it’s very funny and I love it. That’s it, that’s the reasoning.

Rice ball time. I sure do love jelly filled donuts! You don’t actually have to pick rice balls to hear Bonnie comment on loving rice but eh who cares I think we should pick rice.

Plants. We now do speak when it’s our turn, thinking out loud about them avoiding us. :(

I'm going to start adding (Act 2 spoilers) to these actually. I maybe should have always been. Whoops. ||This time when we find the hollow wall, we find the secret library. Listen Sif it wasn’t all that hidden.||

Act 2 spoilers! ||We find the shield spell. Odile is looking intently at the list for foreshadowing.||

Act 2 spoilers ||Madeleines. Because why not. I’ve honestly got no clue what these say no one ever seems to pick them. (I saw no reason to draw the mirror again it’s like the exact same as last time.)||

Optional content of Act 2! Beware!!! ||“I ran away from home once!” I think we need as much foreshadowing as we can get, and this moment genuinely gives me chills. (If we don’t want to use the star book as the book, we could also use Odile’s book she uses as a weapon for book based scenes?)||

Just vague spoilers, honestly I think this is random chance. ||I wasn’t sure what to do with this bathroom scene, so I just picked a 'listen in?' interaction I liked a lot. So here is Odile and Bonnie interacting! Added is the Wiki article of them interacting in case you missed this!||

[cloud path]

(Aww! Never seen that one before!)

[old radish]

Act 2 ||We crunch on some more fritters. They are way less impactful. ||

[old radish]

||(It's really cute! I love how those two interact a lot! )||

[cloud path]

(Sif just goes “Soft! Delicious!”)

[old radish]

Act 2 spoilers ||We defeat the King! His theme disappears alongside his puppet!!! Yippie! Perhaps the Mirabelle circle eye things are contacts, but also no one is going to see that at all. So is it even worth including..? (The Loop popcorn saga begins)|| Implied Two Hat spoilers maybe???????? Extra safe all the time is the name of the game. ||((Loop throwing their popcorn can be attributed to them being upset at the king. ))||

[old radish]

Finally! I know the cursed knowledge!

[native burrow]

((would it be helpful to you guys if i just mentioned this thread has fullgame spoilers so that you don't have to spoiler everything?))

[old radish]

I couldn't find the dialogue literally anywhere.

[old radish]

I'm willing to spoiler everything, but yeah, that does seem reasonable.

Act 2 spoilers. ||We hear the Ending motif for the first time! Surely, with a name like that, and how victorious it sounds as we step into the bright lighting after the dim lighting of the house, this must be a victory! We chat with Odile as the lighting brightens back up to normal (gradually maybe, for those that have adjusted to the dimmer lighting? I know that this lighting change would hurt my eyes…).||

Act 2 ||We talk to Isabeau, and I only realized after I had taken the screenshots and deleted the art that I had forgot to include what they are talking about. Whoops. Oh well, you guys know how those go. Odile talks about going everyone going home, Isa fails to confess. I didn’t draw Mira and Bonnie here, since I didn’t feel like it, but I’m sure they are here too.||

[native burrow]

ISAT Musical (Fullgame Spoilers)

[old radish]

One last 'act 2 spoilers' before we stop spoiling stuff because I am not willing to change right at the end- ||The tall actor playing Euphrasie (who may just be wearing very high shoes but shhh) does her thing, and Euphrasie says the lines from the game word for word. Or as close as she can get. I really hope that we can get this moment pretty close to the in game dialogue- I am a big fan of the fact that it’s nearly word for word the dialogue from the comics and I want to keep that feeling that it never changes! Loop is finally back with their popcorn, just in time to watch the fireworks.||

And that!!!! Is act 2!!!!!!!!

I am done!!!!!!!

(Now time for act 3 )

[cloud path]

👏👏👏

[old radish]

I may jokingly complain but I am loving this project. It's fun trying to convert everything into this format!

[cloud path]

If you want the audience to be able to see the reflection we could always have the mirror just angled more instead of being at the back (like this maybe? Drew this VERY fast excuse the quality )

[old radish]

And. It's nice. Having people genuinely comment things on your art other than 'that's cool.'

That's so clever why didn't I think of it!!!!

:O

[cloud path]

:O

[old radish]

If I was less shy with pinging people I would reach out to poke Manny and Hat Crime. But I shall just wait.

[cloud path]

Same

[old radish]

Who wants to weigh on a very silly yet important decision! What order do we do the friend quests in? I want it to be consistant! It should end with Isa obviously, and I believe it should start with Mira for act 5 reasons. But who do we do second and third? Odile or Bonnie?

[analog grove]

I feel like logically the order would be mira -> Odile -> bonnie -> Isa but that’s just me ig

Just logistically speaking odile is physically the closest one in location to get to after mira

[analog blade]

that’s also the order it goes later

[old radish]

Huh? I thought you could do Bonnie's first as well. I could be wrong though!

[analog blade]

||not in act 5, i think??|| (act 5)

[old radish]

That is what I meant! I thought you could do Bonnie's first then as well. But I really don't know!

Also, we are now in full game spoilers, so for any of the act things I don't think we have to spoiler them. Which feels very odd after doing it for so long.

[analog blade]

oh good

i’m not sure - i thought it was mira first?? the game seemed to steer me in that direction at least

also :3 are people allowed to offer help w lyrics bc :33 that is. a thing i am Experienced in

[old radish]

Yes!!! Anything anyone wants to contribute is awesome!!!

[old radish]

I know you have to do Mira first and Isa last in act five. I've now checked a few videos and it does seem like everyone does Odile before Bonnie, but I wasn't sure if the order there was required.

[analog blade]

i think the game makes you do odile first

[old radish]

Alright! I have no more reason to not believe you.

[analog blade]

i’d also be willing to help with any voicing because i did uhhhhhh . 11 years of musical theatre? so i’d like to at least audition for that when the time comes

[old radish]

Well then, we certainly have to do it Mira Odile Bonnie Isa!

[old radish]

Woah that sent early

[old radish]

I have no clue if this is going to become a real musical, but we are certainly trying! If it does happen, we'll try to get you in! I'd ask who you want to play, but.

[analog blade]

i think that might be a little obvious LOLL

[old radish]

Me auditioning to be Tutorial Kid /halfj

[analog blade]

do we have a gist on when in each story beat we’d like songs?

[old radish]

Yeah! I've been doing art for all of them, but I've basically got what's where by now. Want a vague summary?

[analog blade]

yes please!

if you have which story beats you’d like songs for i can start laying out ideas

[old radish]

I haven't done anything without the idea of there being a song at least playinginstrumentally in the background- mostly since my first real exposure to musicals was Hamilton and I know very little on actual musicals.

So, if you wanna help chop that up I've got the sections, but not the 'song start' vs 'song end'

[analog blade]

having the entire thing being songs is SUPER FUCKING HARD

background instrumentals are definitely less Crasy

a lot of musicals will have instrumentals during scenes

[old radish]

We can absolutely have it not be all songs. I just have been focused on where we are on stage and props and designs! Completely valid to not have lyrics all the blinding time.

[analog blade]

especially things that reflect important motifs & character themes during big moments

[old radish]

Dormont and the interactions around there is a song ("Welcome to the Show!" is what I've been calling it), the friend quests with us dueting with our pals ending with everyone singing together at the picnic, Loop has a song for their interactions with us ("How Can I Help You, Stardust?"), and a fair amount of the house is a song (songs?). All these songs probably change some of the lyrics and occasionaly melodies over time thanks to Siffrin changing up their lines, but the Loop interactions definitely do change a lot. Unsure if the King actually has a song with lyrics for the whole fight? maybe just the end? maybe not at all??, the bit with the housemaiden is a song though, probably??. For very specific songs that only play once ever, we got the who was phone ||change god interaction, dubbed ("God Call")||, maybe a song dedicated to coin shenanigans, and Mal Du Pays ("Homesickness") whose lyrics probably corrupt some past bits of the duet songs. Presumably the fight with Siffrin But Large is a song, and the Loop Fight is a song.

Phew

Apparently I did have thoughts on it afterall!

[analog blade]

so

it would be different the first time we interact with loop, but i’ve laid out a possible BASIC first few lines for like… Normal Loop act 2-4ish

i made sure the beats lined up as well, so shouldn’t be off on tune

[old radish]

Plot points that happen in each: "Welcome to the Show" gives people lore (wow won't it be funny being told about how the King is freezing everyone in time for the fourth time), then setting up the characters while interacting with our pals. It stays about the same the whole show although Siffrin fumbles their lines when they first loop and are tired and ignoring them changing their lines out of concern in later loops. Then it shifts to "How Can I Help You Stardust?" which proabbly varies a the most of any song here since it's dependent on two characters who constantly change...many conversations happen here so I won't put them all lol. Unsure what in the house would have lyrics if anything- I just posted act 2 earlier, you decide what we should give any of lyrics. The rest only happen once so I don't need to explain I guess. Alright I think I have thoroughly over explained now.

Yo????

[analog blade]

im just gonna voice note it for now

lol nvm i’m gonna type it up my voice is ROUGHGHH to night

[old radish]

Completely valid. Still hyped!

[analog blade]

well good morning dear
glad to see you here
away from your little group
it’s a lovely day
and i have to say
how can i help you this new loop?

[old radish]

:O

I LOVE IT!

[analog blade]

lines up with each beat in the first 22 seconds of how can i help you stardust as well

[old radish]

I need to jot down any lyrics we've come up with-

It does!!!!!

I didn't notice!!!!!!!!

[analog blade]

obviously it'd be different on loop 1

[old radish]

Stars this is so cool

[analog blade]

i think it'd be EXTREMELY funny if sif doesn't sing during that but just has dialogue interspersed with loop singing.

[old radish]

Wonder if we can change 'glad to see you here' to 'glad that you're still here' in later loops?

[analog blade]

DEFINITELY

[old radish]

A completely valid option.

[analog blade]

glad to see you here can be the first time it happens After sif talks to loop

[old radish]

So we proposed earlier that Siffrin would start saying something then have Loop interrupt to finish their sentence, and I'm imagining that but Siffrin is talking normally then Loop cuts them off and just starts singing the rest of the line.

[analog blade]

ABSOLUTELY

i think it’d be SO funny

[analog blade]

s: (spoken) uh, hello stranger??
l: well hello stardust
s: (spoken) stardu-
l: aren't you just
so cute when you're confused?
tell me how you've been
look at you siffrin
s: how do you know my-
l: surprised that you're not even bruised?

[old radish]

Loop pressing on singing ignoring Siffin’s remarks.

Also Loop’s lines align to the song!!!! Again!!!

[analog blade]

yeas!

[plucky cliff]

I have come to say something

Siffrin needs a good "I Want" song at the beginning

kinda like with A Goofy Movie, the song needs to establish the world and serve as a good "I Want" song

[keen nacelle]

may I suggest a song like "I know what's gonna happen" but sif is going thru it with isa

[analog blade]

maybe while wishing at the favor tree?

[old radish]

Yeah! Someone (I forget names Aaaaa) suggested some lines for it and we came up with how to make them rhyme together! I think he deserves a I Want song. As a treat.

[old radish]

Found it! It was Hat Crime’s lyric ideas! Basically just an ‘I Want’ song with the wish snuck into it.

[hot folio]

Every showing of the play has a different person’s wish

[torpid trout]

it’s a shame the tone doesn’t really work for the wish to be an audience chooses thing

i mean maybe it could but not in the middle of an i want song yknow

hi. im here now. ex theatre kid

[cloud path]

hello. I am. a current theatre kid

Havin a good time

[hot folio]

I don't mean as Audience Chooses just like.....each show has a different (secondary) wish that the audience has no input on

[old radish]

Randomly picked in advance what 'wish' he goes with with altered lyrics for it? I get it I think.

[analog blade]

hi during the bit with the change god the actors the change god is imitating should be scattered in among the audience

[torpid trout]

THATS RLY FUN???

also i wanna say re spoilers chat. i think the loneliness aspect of live theatre would be so good for isat and siffrin.

i’ll grab a post talking abt it but. ough.

[keen nacelle]

yesss...

[analog blade]

still thinking about audience as the change god .

[loud inlet]

Idk why I haven’t really looked in this channel yet, this is v fun to talk about hehe

[analog blade]

the change god as something that’s watching, consuming, but not participating or assisting in the narrative? hiouyhiughh

[loud inlet]

YEAH

[torpid trout]

https://ursamajori.tumblr.com/post/669970646048096256

[analog blade]

WE COULD HAVE THE CHANGE GOD STATUE AT THE BACK OF THE HOUSE

[keen nacelle]

i need to find a few songs from musicals I think are sif themed... take them how you will and use them for ideas just like I have

[torpid trout]

i like my tags on this as well if i may say so

[loud inlet]

Oh gosh I have a lot of fun making musical playlists for things if I have time I’m going to look for some for isat

[keen nacelle]

https://open.spotify.com/track/2L7E2IsUbGiGqT9aSehkID?si=z_OQAXRuQxCA4PwZNlADzA
https://open.spotify.com/track/1dXivQjVkgLUytJ7PGdlod?si=PfUq5ZW0RVeMwCEPn-VoLQ
https://open.spotify.com/track/7MV1c2eclBShziAJRf3Q0Q?si=HQ-My2szRda2R5c3onx2Kw I love musicals. I love isat. I love musical isat!

[analog blade]

QLSO YEAH. when you’re watching a movie it’s almost intimate. you are close with the character. when you’re watching a show you are one in a crowd.

[keen nacelle]

what's gonna happen ESPECIALLY is sif coded

[keen nacelle]

oughh Yesss..

[loud inlet]

I gotta go work on some stuff, studying for finals but I will be around probably

[torpid trout]

there’s the audience. so our hamlet here isn’t actually alone - he has a whole crowd of people watching him - but on stage? it’s just him - he in his own space is alone being watched by a whole crowd of people - and what’s lonelier than that? than being the person on stage that everyone is watching and you’re all alone? isolated from the crowd?

[analog blade]

exactly yeah .

[torpid trout]

siffrin is being watched by the player and most of the time loop . he’s never alone. but that makes him even more alone

so ofc a musical would be a good adaptation

[keen nacelle]

never alone but never helped.... truly lost

[old radish]

No wonder Siffrin views this as a play. It fits so well. It's so fun to adapt ISAT to this medium just because Siffrin already views it as such, so it never really feels like a stretch to actually make it one.

Poor thing.

[analog blade]

where loop is trying to help but doesn’t actually know how, the change god is taking enjoyment out of it. the change god is watching and waiting, and making the active choice not to lift a finger.

ohhhhh my gof we could have a moment where siffrin just. yells at the audience. asks them why they’re not helping him.

[torpid trout]

YES

[analog blade]

like the end of the guy who didn’t like musicals

[torpid trout]

still need to wat h that tbh

[analog blade]

the. “why are you just sitting there?”

[torpid trout]

it looks so good

[analog blade]

WATCH IT

IT FUCKS SO HARD

IT GOES SO HARD ITS FREE ON YOUTUBE

[torpid trout]

on it boss 🫡

i mean not rn but i will

[analog blade]

also a lot of starkid stuff is really good for considering how to do a musical

also show stopping number makes me think of loop.

[loud inlet]

Starkid is really good yeah

I’m actually thinking about a musical I did in high school called the drowsy chaperone where the narrator is a guy who’s a broadway nerd playing a record of a 1920s musical and is like constantly breaking the fourth wall and talking to the audience about what’s happening. And sometimes the scene would like pause in the middle of things when the guy paused the record to explain something and also had some moments where the record got stuck for a second so an action would get repeated for a second until the guy fixed it, or rewinding to play back a certain moment. Was a good comedy too, very fun show to do

[old radish]

That's pretty cool!

[loud inlet]

Im reading back in the channel and I’m getting more of an idea of things y’all are cool

[loud inlet]

Made a musical playlist, this is not organized at all/did it for fun with what I thought kinda fit isat vibes lol, may add to/change it later https://open.spotify.com/playlist/1mkxXJjNkaHfkmrMKGSzjN?si=X-pzumEASuu1DhSo6Edqmw&pi=u-vKtGu4TiQYq2

[keen nacelle]

Heehhehaaaaa...... The songs I gave....

Love that playlist sm

[loud inlet]

Yee I saw the ones u shared hehe

[native burrow]

(sidenote but i should prob say this thread has twohats spoilers too? does it)

[old radish]

It does but I think they are all censored.

[native burrow]

gotcha 🤔

[old radish]

That being said 'totally normal coin song' and the events after are going to happen in the play.

[native burrow]

well then ig we can keep it that way

[old radish]

We will keep on spoilering them then! :)

[native burrow]

also my random musicals pick for isat is goodbye from catch me if you can

twohats spoilers ||it's good for siffrin a6 but best for loop imo||

[old radish]

I'd say good choice, but I know so little about musicals that at this point it's not even funny.

I'll add the song to the list of songs and musicals I should probably see.

[native burrow]

oh the musical itself is mediocre imo LOLLLL

[old radish]

Happens. Sometimes great songs come from mediocre places.

[loud inlet]

Lol sometimes musicals can be like that where like a few songs are good but not the whole thing

[old radish]

That. Actually sounds kinda inspirational.

[native burrow]

(implied twohats spoilers) https://open.spotify.com/track/49qzQE9T0dx0BgdVqgVOXc?si=bd3d0cd9acdf4b90

this song itself is, you know, kinda... 🤔 'we wanted to give aaron tveit a big song'

but the lyrics are pertinent

[loud inlet]

oooh yep

[native burrow]

you can't win from the wiz is also pretty good

[native burrow]

OH OH and!! twohats spoilers ||no one knows who i am from jekyll and hyde for loop is SO good||

[old radish]

||There's a jekyll and hyde musical?? That actually sounds so cool.||

[native burrow]

yeah! it's very good actually

[loud inlet]

oooooh that's really good yeah

[old radish]

||Just from the implications I can imagine it would fit them very well!||

[loud inlet]

(I realized I should spoil this for two hats lol) || also, my college did the jekyll and hyde musical! It's a very good show! ||

[native burrow]

twohats spoilers ||this one isn't from jekyll--it's from one of the two love interests--but lucy in general has good loop songs...a lot about identity and desperately loving someone who doesn't love you back and is sort of your last hope||

[loud inlet]

Ok I need to yell about another song that gives me isat vibes a bit and it’s “it’s not a game/it’s just a ride” from ride the cyclone. Just the certain vibes of the show it’s coming from + the harmonies/dissonance and slight spookiness at points just fits really well to me. Also just the fact that it’s an ensemble singing together gives the vibes of the party singing together kinda too https://open.spotify.com/track/6j23WH4uEIcfqBNrhqdpzb?si=KXOi6YcZRZulbMMtiKM-Yw

[analog grove]

I think if you’re just thinking of songs that give isat vibes you might want to check out #1194468972473630810

This is more of like people brainstorming ideas for if it were a musical\ play I think[?]

But yes I do agree the vibes do fit

[loud inlet]

Yeah I wasn’t sure which channel to put it in, thanks! Was carrying on a conversation about some musical songs from yesterday but it might be better to move it yeah

[hot folio]

works for both I think ^u^

[heavy inlet]

haven't checked in on this channel in a while cause I was waiting until I had the energy to read a lot then forgot but

has anyone suggested act 5 and maybe end act 4 ||having the spotlights positioned in the windows?||

[old radish]

I don’t know what that means! It sounds neat.

[analog blade]

OOOOOOOH

[heavy inlet]

like, [same spoiler as above] ||you know how light filters through a window sometimes, and it creates a spotlight on the ground or wall in the shape of the window? what if they position the spotlight origins to look like they're coming from the windows on the side during the big sif fight and possibly the act 4 ending||

[old radish]

Oh! That’s very cool! I didn’t know that was something that could even be done! How interesting!!!

[heavy inlet]

I don't know if it can to be honest but it sounds possible

I mean, a spotlight's just a big light right? I'm sure there are smaller more portable ones

hell I'm pretty sure you could find something like that as a halloween decoration

[old radish]

There are! I did music, and we had little portable spotlights. You could totally find some.

[old radish]

My sibling has decided that during the death compilation Siffrin should fall into lava. So that’s canon now and should be treated as such.

[hot folio]

one of the intermission loops the audience doesn't see

[old radish]

…I have realized another problem with the ‘simply remove the clocktower!’ decision. Isabeau. Isabeau won’t try to confess and chicken out.

[hot folio]

it could be in the first loop and then skipped over every other time?

or like, we see it 3 times

[old radish]

That is an idea… the full clocktower, or just the confession?

[hot folio]

hmmm

[old radish]

I feel like it’s overall unnecessary, but it sets up the orbs, Siffrin’s growing hunger, and Isabeau’s confession.

His hunger can just be moved to snack time, the orbs to the House’s Gate, but Isa’s confession is. Rough.

[hot folio]

I still think it'd work good in at least the first loop and then skimmed over afterwards

.....or it could be under the favor tree?

like in that space he's always standing at?

[old radish]

…maybe??? But what about Bad Touch? Will that make those two events correlated?

[hot folio]

and in the first loop it plays like the first time at the clocktower but every other time he notices the Vibes are off and doesn't go for it, most of the time

or Sif just nodding away like "yep the thing with the arm and what he wants to say later yep yep yep I need to see Loop get it overwith"

[old radish]

So like. In the very first time they go through the normal chat, Isa does the whole ‘um. I’ll tell you after the King??’ And then in nearly every loop he notices something is up and is distracted by that.

Maybe a mix of both?

[hot folio]

yeah!

like sometimes Sif spaces out through it and other times Isa is like ".....hey you good?"

[old radish]

So like on stuff like ‘woah Bonnie just died’ Isa is like. Wow you are not okay I am not gonna try to confess

Solved!!!

Thank you Manny!!

[hot folio]

https://tenor.com/view/hellmo-pizza-fire-creed-hellmo-pizza-fire-gif-26018511

welcome :D

I love that elmo gif so much

I doodle myself in that pose constantly

[patent nacelle]

hey, just saw this project and it looks cool, how are y'all doing

[old radish]

Doing okay! I’ve taken a bit of a break from the art (mostly since act 3 is a struggle lol), but I’m about ready to return to it!

[patent nacelle]

ok

is there some sort of document or whatever with progress on the musical

[old radish]

Not really! We are kinda just contributing whatever.

[patent nacelle]

ok

[old radish]

I should maybe do that at some point!

[patent nacelle]

yeah

[hot folio]

Yeah like a collab doc thing

[old radish]

If. If I made a google slide thing. Could I send that over Discord?

[hot folio]

Probably?

If it works like the docs do

[old radish]

I'll have to figure out how to do it anonymously. My google account has my name on it.

But. I do love collecting notes.....

[hot folio]

I have at least 5 documents trying to figure out a series I’m trying to make, I totally get it

[old radish]

I mean. looks at old notes

[hot folio]

Bits keep getting obsolete so just hey make a new doc whatever lets not edit the first one instead

[old radish]

I have kicked myself off the Google Slides account, and transferred the notes into a new account!

https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1FbjaIEOwepB6gF0ieRHPxrHLtU7REHnGN-fFfD1j2vw/edit?usp=sharing Here goes nothing. Have some very very very unfinished notes.

Now, back to work!

It should allow people to edit it- feel free to create and change stuff! I'm gonna do my best to make it passable, but I'm very bad at organized notes.

[old radish]

I have spent like 12 hours straight working on this.

I am now going to bed.

[loud inlet]

Oh get some good rest!

[old radish]

I have now scrolled through all of this channel to do notes on it. For the third time...
Once I finish going through my own notes and scooting them over to the slides, all these notes will finally be in one place!
Then I'll just have to clean them all up. Everything is an absolute mess right now.

[patent nacelle]

awesome

[cloud path]

I just got to look through and read all of the AWESOME slideshow Eilla made about our progress on this!! Amazingly concise considering how many ideas and concepts have been tossed around in here! Great work dude!!!! (also tysm for the compliments it means a lot…. )

[analog grove]

I don’t know if it’s on the doc but

I do remember posting stuff for act 5 I think art wise?

[old radish]

I’m currently away from my computer so I don’t want to check, but if it’s the art with the red lighting I think it’s on there. I’m guessing that was you? Since I can’t think of any other act five art at the moment.

[analog grove]

Stuff I did art wise:

#1200787912845951046 message (loop mask woo)

#1200787912845951046 message (act 5)

#1200787912845951046 message (end of act 1)

[analog grove]

Yes I think so!! That was me yes

[old radish]

Thanks! I’m pretty sure those are all on there! I’ll double check tomorrow when I’m doing all the organizing.

[analog grove]

Oh neat okay

[hot folio]

I think we can also get in there and mess with things, (with permission)

Like anything further than tiny subtitles

[old radish]

I made it so anyone can edit it for a reason. This is a group project, after all! If you would like to change or add (or even remove I guess but I wouldn't like that much ) things, you can!

[cloud path]

https://www.etsy.com/listing/1525397969/star-fragment-led-light-animal-crossing?epik=dj0yJnU9cVp6QmxnbGhqYjJaUF9sTUE5Q09uMGMybUl4a3l6ZHcmcD0wJm49ZHhUWThkdHBYU1dfck9tN0oxWFlNUSZ0PUFBQUFBR1ktYkV3&variation1=3666528222 just got recommended this on Pinterest so the kind of light we’ve been thinking of for the intro scene definitely exists!

Even comes in white

[loud inlet]

Oooh cool!!

[drifting canyon]

im not sure if this has been said here before (ive scrolled through this project, i love thinking of an isat musical but this chat is longgg) but if siffrin had a song i think itd be rly cool to make it in 4/4 with an alternate 7/4 bar. ive been learning abt the effects of time signatures on music, and what 4/4 with an alternate 7/4 can do is make the 7/4 bar feel like it skipped a beat, like it jumped through time. its standard enough with 4/4 that it feels regular at first, but 7/4 kind of throws in some irregularity so... yeah!!

i also think loop would have a song in 5/4, its like groovy and irregular and jazzy!!

[old radish]

Ooh! Time signatures have been talked about, but not in much detail I think! What a cool idea!!!

[drifting canyon]

the game over theme does it as well actually! here it is on musescore! https://musescore.com/user/39037334/scores/14446957

[old radish]

I didn't know! So that's why it sounds so cool!!!

[drifting canyon]

yeah!!