Simulate Archery Kiting w/o x amount of hits missing, generic.

[molten turtle]

@deep prawn So, Let's say in order to 'Kite', archery defense needs to meet an XP threshold. 70 as an example.

When you hit this threshold, you can now 'kite'. This allows for you a 'bow wielder', every 3rd shot to 'push' the enemy away, slowing their attack speed by 2x or by 2% (whichever works).

Once the mob is slowed (for 1 attack), their next attack has a chance to deal minimum dmg " 1 " and the second attack is a 100% success crit, at .5x dmg. As they would be rushing to you to hit. In order for this to land, they have to actually hit with a defense check as per normal.
If they miss the 2nd hit, you crit for .5x dmg as a 'range bonus'

This simulates a kite (moving away from the mob, for others who are reading this) , without just x/hits miss. and still allows you to deal dmg at the same time

[deep prawn]

Firstly, always thumbs up your own posts to get the ball rolling. Secondly, this is a neat take thanks for writing it up.

[molten turtle]

You're welcome! I don't think there is much else in the way of a 2D environment that I can see at least, which can simulate kiting.

[deep prawn]

Since we only have hit chance and damage as sliders, this works within the confines of all the systems right now and numbers could be tweaked to be fair.

On current end game mobs before bosses, black dragons, its rare to have a fight go longer than 7 attacks on my end, so your numbers are probably close.

I like the simulated spacing between the mob and player, and maybe think the added crit potential is too much at all but is also a neat idea for a perk or enhancement/archery unlock

[molten turtle]

yeah, maybe not crit, but some kind of spacing bonus that isn't just a free defense boost. or 1 extra max hit or something of the sort. There has to be a reward and a punishment here, otherwise it's not balanced.

if given some more time, I could probably think of other cool stuff like this for mage too

[deep prawn]

Yeah agreed

[molten turtle]

Such as a magic shield.

I would love to hear other peoples' feedback too. Particularly other arch players 😉

[deep prawn]

@modest solstice @stuck mason reading assignment for bowfolk

[molten turtle]

:) i was trying to remember chens name lmao

[modest solstice]

i want arrow key input and thge boss chooses to rush me down 1 of 3 lines

and i have to frogger away

i would say though ,gameplay wise this is cool

but Idle game wise, ill come back in 20hour and see X dmg done, X Dmg taken

[deep prawn]

Ye

[molten turtle]

[modest solstice]

so my qeustion becomes, do i take more dmg or less 😄

or do i do more dmg and take more

[deep prawn]

"When its done right, it will look like you haven't done a thing at all"

[molten turtle]

on screen prompt to click to 'kite' ?

[modest solstice]

futurama

new season july >:D

[molten turtle]

if you miss the prompt, it goes away, and continues as normal. if press, it activates the code to 'kite' ?

[stuck mason]

what

what is this

[molten turtle]

READ it you baffoon

😂

[modest solstice]

i think

this is not going to work for regular play

HOWEVER

[stuck mason]

[modest solstice]

if we add new bosses with interaction

[molten turtle]

okok go slep

[modest solstice]

then this could be the base for archery

like new mega boss drops from current boss (key drop)_

then when we fight it

archery can kite

mages can time their spell (think like hitting slider)

and melee can idfk

[deep prawn]

Don't let me know i have this kind of power to get you to wake up and respond to random pings smh ty

[modest solstice]

so it gives an interactive combat property for specific higher tier bossing

something that is not part of the regular mobbing / key bossing

[deep prawn]

Oh all goals and ideas should focus on idle

Idle Clans

[molten turtle]

ok so, it wouldnt be punishable if you dont want to though right? but provides a neg/pos reaction if pressed? or how would balancing that work?

[modest solstice]

aka bosses you do not idle

[deep prawn]

Tru tru

[modest solstice]

it would need to punish

aka why its only for elite bosses

you need to play to increase win odds

[molten turtle]

i mean, that makes sense.

[modest solstice]

for the non idle play

abilities**

[molten turtle]

no afk soloing elite bosses

[modest solstice]

but these would not be active outside of elite bossing

you can idle mobs, boss

not elite boss

elite boss = key drop from regular boss

[molten turtle]

i like that idea. deejus?

[deep prawn]

It opens many more ideas for theory if its active not idle

Same as if we use more sliders than just accuracy and damage on two ends

Accuracy damage and attack speed *

[stuck mason]

I mean it's a nice idea, but if you're gona implement this for normal bossing key runs, I'm not gona be doing this for more than 5 keys in a row

Could have it for a once a day world boss or something

[modest solstice]

nothing like this would be added for regular play

[versed thicket]

what, you dont want to do bossing ddr?

[molten turtle]

it's a lot of IF, else calls for sure.

[modest solstice]

would only be for world boss / elite boss style stuff

[stuck mason]

o I didn't read this far kek

[deep prawn]

I barely like timed hits in paper Mario and I love that system/upgrades combat

[modest solstice]

also would be cool to have movement

could be 3 lines

could be a 3x3 grid

dodge attacks

you can move 1x per attack

[versed thicket]

at that point you are just making actual runescape

[stuck mason]

Or give it to the crossbow or something, let the item have a use lul

[modest solstice]

but cant move during attack

so RNG Movement

ahaha

then we can make lumbridge

[molten turtle]

i think movement is a lot going on for an idle game tbh

[modest solstice]

true

thats what ninja buff is for

[molten turtle]

gotta see what temsei thinks about it. but some interesting ideas here for sure.

[molten turtle]

• bump

[modest solstice]

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