Make boss not optional anymore

[left thorn]

its like minecraft adding ominous bottle. theres no good reason

[sick flower]

Why would someone dislike this

[round bear]

Exactly. Complaining about bosses would be like complaining about the chaos and essence of the game

[sick flower]

War shouldn't be peaceful

[faint osprey]

Ok yeah just no, anyone who goes to the arena is garaunteed to die and it's just not fun in the main map due to literally everyone trying to play while a boss just blocks the entire center.

[sick flower]

No matter how hard you try

[sick flower]

It's better than having it optional

And it's good that it's big and chaotic

That literally the point

[faint osprey]

That's subjective and many people disagree, chaos is not always fun, and it can infact be LESS fun than an orderly fighting space.

[round bear]

Exactly. It isn’t called ability fights, it’s called ability wars. It’s gonna be as chaotic as possible.

[sick flower]

It's a wars, chaos is to be expected

And the minority disagree, that's different

[round bear]

That’s fun, because then you’re pressured to fight in another place or fight a big boss which is different from just fighting another player

[sick flower]

Plus it's fun everyone rushing at the same spot trying to do the most damage

[round bear]

Blud. They happen each 30 minutes

[sick flower]

Bros asking for an orderly fighting space in a game about wars

[faint osprey]

that's totally subjective, i find it really unfun to be forced to fight a boss that can take out half of your health if it decides to throw projectiles at you but ok

also please stop replying to me you cannot convince me this is a good idea

[sick flower]

You can literally just stay away

If you die it's your fault

[faint osprey]

Which is more time spent not fighting.

also are you illiterate or smth i legit said to stop replying my god

[warm oar]

Stats for Codename_WonderPV

Requested by @sick flower

Punches

169,390

Gamepasses

Custom, 2x Punches, 3x Punches, 2x Mastery, Themes, God Punch, Emotes

Is Banned?

No

[round bear]

Well maybe learn to dodge stuff and not come ramming. I always imagine the most hated boss, the tree lord with the fruits, as an undertale boss. It’s bullet hell, and you need to move in a pattern to avoid the attacks.

Maybe you should learn playing like that

[sick flower]

Anyway

[faint osprey]

maybe you should stop replying to me when i have my opinions

[sick flower]

Hmm, I'm thinking about it

[round bear]

Maybe you should look at the game as more than just a fighting game

Just play TSB at that point

[faint osprey]

maybe you should leave someone alone when they ask to be left alone

[sick flower]

Your pfp lowkey remind me of King Crimson

[rigid gate]

but its like lowkey not at all that

[round bear]

What then

[red sapphire]

[rigid gate]

idk gang not undertale

the only similarity is that they both damage you

[round bear]

No the bullet hell attacks

Fruit attack is bullet he’ll like Undertale bosses

[pale lintel]

What if u js wanna chill

[sick flower]

Stay away from the center of the map

Or get higher up

[pale lintel]

Ok but maybe if u use engi u don't wanna get tp

And loose everything

[sick flower]

What like if they have a car?

They can just stay a bit away

[pale lintel]

But what if while they're away someone dies and breaks it

[sick flower]

Why would they be away

They can stay on the car

[pale lintel]

Bc they get tp

[sick flower]

Tp where

[pale lintel]

New boss thing

[sick flower]

But that's literally what I'm against

[pale lintel]

Oh

[sick flower]

I want to make it back to normal

Where boss spawned on the same map as everything else

[pale lintel]

Oh ye ok I thought u want to tp all

[sick flower]

No not at all

Hold on I'll make it clearer

[pale lintel]

Ok ye I got it

How do I remove the bad reaction

Bc im agree

Lol l'et's just not mind

[sick flower]

Honestly idk

[pale lintel]

Ok ima go but ye good idea

[sick flower]

Thanks

[left thorn]

u click on ur reaction

[old stone]

TONS of people asked for it to be optional, me included, it was a pretty popular suggestion actually

bosses being optional is a 10/10 change due to the fact that pvp no longer gets interrupted forcefully by bosses killing you

[sick flower]

If you die to boss honestly that's on you it's already easy to avoid

Also no it wasn't a popular suggestion

Considering you've joined the server less than a month ago I'll take it you just kinda made it up for some reason

Plus the game should be chaotic and unpredictable

[high lintel]

you're just mad you can't get boss trophies anymore

[sick flower]

You literally still can

[high lintel]

no you cant

[sick flower]

Yes you can

[high lintel]

blocked

[sick flower]

You beat the boss you still get it

[faint osprey]

If you get the most damage you get 100 extra punches but you still get killed.

[lofty plaza]

a few odd points but I agree with the general message

[sick flower]

Ok so how the hell did I saw some dude with trophy

Ok that's weird

[high lintel]

exploits

[sick flower]

Ok so trophy is just gone?

[high lintel]

reduced to atoms

[sick flower]

Didn't even know damn

Honestly this kinda make me happy

Damn it

I'm considering removing this suggestion just from this

Cause trophy deserve hell

[round bear]

Then rename the game to Ability Chill. Like no it’s called Ability Wars for a reason

And they happen every 30 minutes

Chaos every 30 minutes

[round bear]

Still. Every 30 minutes. It adds a layer of fun to other players, and the game isn’t centered around abilities like DoS, engi, or people who only wanna 1v1

[round bear]

Truth is coming out. You guys have a too limited vision to see more than just PvP in the game. Yes it’s a fighting game, but removing bosses, removes chaos which other people liked.

[old stone]

acting like bosses are completely GONE

you can still choose to go to the boss

and there's still chaos there

[round bear]

I don’t use boss trophies at all tbh, I just liked that you had something to fight which was intense. PvP all day everything fair and square can be done in plenty of other games. Like fricking TSB or smth

[round bear]

You know what I hate by this argument? It’s that choosing the boss doesn’t make anything better. Many people including me, might just decline it as you’re doing something. And that doesn’t mean I DON’T want to fight it, I want to, but it forcing me to think differently instead of just the same old PvP is way better. You can learn to dodge the attacks, and if you’re fighting someone, they’re just as likely as you to die. If you’re more likely to die, learn to maneuver bosses better.

And there’s no chaos in the boss arena when the previous fighting on the main map is completely wiped and you have to go somewhere else

And if you die you don’t really lose anything, unless you’re playing smth like hivemind, dos, engineer, defender

But again

The world ain’t centered around you

[granite rover]

This update is honestly trash

Why the fck do u remove a whole gamemode

Why do u nerf army mas to the ground

But anyway I dont like this suggestion because bosses just randomly target me when I do nothing

[round bear]

Probably bc waves were removed from the main game and they want to reimplement it?

As optionable bru

[round bear]

Because ARMY mas is a runner ability. People only drain health with it while being a mile away from the target. It’s annoying and unfair

[granite rover]

Yes alright but six units

Make it 8 or 10 units brah

[round bear]

You could keep 10, but make it deal way less damage then

[cursive river]

i say no cuz bosses always interrupt my 1v1s

[round bear]

Still. Not. A 1v1 game

They happened each 30 minutes too, and changed fighting styles.

[cursive river]

its a pvp game tho and bosses interrupt fair fights quite often

[round bear]

It was a good little break.

[cursive river]

besides theres no downside i can see to a seperate boss arena

if you wanna fight the boss you still can

[round bear]

I don’t see it as a PvP game at all

[cursive river]

it's not like the option's been erased

[round bear]

@cursive river

Like it just won’t feel the same if it’s not forced

It’s supposed to be a chaotic and cruel game. Ability “Wars”

But to a certain degree tbh

[cursive river]

then join the chaos in the boss fight

???

the boss fight area is still super chaotic

[round bear]

Barely any chaos there

[cursive river]

but it gives people who dont wanna fight it a chance to not be forced to do so

[cursive river]

about as much as there was before

[round bear]

Again, people are gonna decline it as a muscle memory making it die down to 2 players fighting. That doesn’t mean they don’t want to, they’re just currently doing something else. But if it’s forced, you’d have to adapt which is still fun.

[cursive river]

its fun for some but not for others

[round bear]

And once the boss is on the map, just change targets or dodge

[cursive river]

don't get me wrong i personally dont have a problem if bosses are optional or not

ive adapted to them to the point that 99% of the time its not really a problem

[round bear]

I mean more than half on this suggestion says the new change sucks

[cursive river]

however most of the community hasn't, and it's fair in my opinion to give them a way out

[round bear]

And other people gotta learn that too. See it as an extra thing to learn after you have everything in the game

[cursive river]

some will have a harder time than others

but ultimately it's better for a game to give players an option than not to

this suggestion also means that the time spent to develop the boss fight area was a waste of time

my opinion on it isn't changing cuz im personally preferable to players being given the option

and if you win the boss fight, then you get a trophy, an advantage over other players who either didn't deal the most damage OR didn't partake at all

[primal mantle]

if a boss spawns in i leave the server

it’s annoying

maybe if i was a new player it would be cool the first few times

[round bear]

Well most players are also new

[round bear]

Anyways if they gotta remove boss fights, at least add some random other events that shape the gameplay and makes it feel more chaotic

[high lintel]

bosses were removed for interrupting fights, god punch also interrupts fights, see where i'm going with this?

[sick flower]

Honestly just for the fact it got rid of trophy I gotta delete this

[sonic herald]

Tbh there should still be some reward and you shouldn't be killed. (Reward other than punches)

[teal coral]

true

the funny part about the bosses is that they are random

and you HAD to deal with them

[quiet dune]

i never had any fun whatsoever with forced bosses because theyre not like bosses such as deus and yourself, its just "haha i stomp for 50 damage which u can avoid by just spinning"

its an autoclicker sleepfest.