How to fix grapple (removing unavoidable 1 shot, still letting it combo)

[finite harness]

How about, when you grapple someone to you, they go where you grappled, not where you are
so people don't jst go in the void, and grapple themselves back up (or use sit so both die making it both die, but harder to survive)

Why not implement that? I don't think it would effect combo's, it could even make them better (if you use it smartly)
ADDITIONALLY instead of that, you could make so grapple de grapples yous near the void, to prevent them grappling directly into the void. Still keeping the same mechanics, yet prevent that annoying unavoidable 1 shot

If you dislike can you explain?

[slate harbor]

This just makes Q into a weaker E

Plus grapple is pretty much fine tbf

[finite harness]

yea but, its still annoying

[slate harbor]

Just dont be predictable

[finite harness]

that applies to being hurt in any way, its abit vague, its like saying a hacking godpunch with speed 10 is fair, because if you are not predictable they can't hit you

[slate harbor]

You can actually beat a hacker that only use a speed boost if you are using a speed boost ability and just combo them

So you are wrong there btw

But in fights

Being predictable is terrible

And grapple punish very well those who are predictable

Even as Mech which has a big hurtbox I was able to cook grapple mains

[finite harness]

yes but, did they try that method of 1 shot? Without it your statement is meaningless, as this is just to prevent that, normal grappling with combo's is fair and I like that

[slate harbor]

Yes they did

Even when they landed it on me I still survived

How?

Because I punch them before I fell

[finite harness]

I didn't ask how?

[slate harbor]

That wasnt really a question-

[finite harness]

but can't competent grapples avoid that? Actually good ones can do it far away, and not even get close to punching range. You must have met a noob or smth

[slate harbor]

Grapple actually has a range limit

Also

[finite harness]

well good ones can still avoid that?

[slate harbor]

Just avoid being near the edges against them

[slate harbor]

How would they avoid something that they cant avoid at all?

[finite harness]

I do that, its just annoying when they do end up doing it

[crimson plume]

does this not mean the same exact thing

[slate harbor]

They will have to go away from their advantge spot (The edge) just to reach you

[finite harness]

yes but one is in general, and one is only near the void

[crimson plume]

.

[finite harness]

r u

[finite harness]

talking about the different version I suggested

[olive perch]

What unavoidable one shot

[slate harbor]

He means when grapple grabs you near the edges

And throw you there

[crimson plume]

this also makes it kinda worse

[olive perch]

Oh that it is easy to avoid just stay in the middle don’t go near the edge simple

[finite harness]

if someone grapples you, then sits then you grapple back into the void, they get dragged along killing both

[slate harbor]

Yea

That's what Im saying

[finite harness]

all because you can avoid it doesn't solve the problem

[olive perch]

they can’t get u if they cant reach u

[finite harness]

you can avoid brick battler parrying nuclears arm

why fix that

if you can avoid cheese speed glitch with slime, why fix that

[slate harbor]

You can dodge it why nerfing it

[olive perch]

plus grapple is kinda easy to counter

[slate harbor]

True

[olive perch]

there so many abilties that counters it

Barrier for example

[slate harbor]

Any vertical mobility ability too

Like firework and Mech

[olive perch]

yes those too or defense abilties

[olive perch]

there too many to name

[slate harbor]

Yea

[olive perch]

If he thinks that annoying base magnet is worst

[slate harbor]

Yes

[finite harness]

look, if you are already grappled, what do you do, you are being dragged into the void by some guy sitting, even if you use any move 99% of them get cancelled (mobilty wise) so what do you do then?

if you are ragdolled and someone does it to you

what do you do

[slate harbor]

What about you can simply focus on the fight and predict that they are gonna do that and simply go away from the void

[slate harbor]

Is unlikely they would even catch you like that due to knockback

Cuz you are moving

[olive perch]

I wouldn’t be in that situation but realistically u obviously die that why it best to stay out of there reach they need to be on edges to do it and u near them during it as long u on top of something or in the middle or just away it not possible for them to do it

[finite harness]

lets just ditch the

"no I am too good to be in that situation" talk

what do you do if you were in that situation

[slate harbor]

We already told you

[finite harness]

so ya die

the end, even grapple can't save you

[olive perch]

I literally just said it

[slate harbor]

When did we said that 🥀?

[olive perch]

I said realistically u die but I say personally me i wouldn’t never put myself in that situation

[finite harness]

bro, how did another post I made, nerfing grapple, get more up votes than this

[crimson plume]

btw this change makes grapple stupid op btw it just makes oneshotting easier

[finite harness]

did I just get the wrong crowd

wdym roblox

[slate harbor]

Probably

[finite harness]

you can already grapple people to you near the void, this would still do the same

[slate harbor]

But Grapple is pretty much fine

[crimson plume]

you say grapple to the location you grappled someone

you just walk around to hit off the edge

this makes it 10x easier

[slate harbor]

If you want to nerf it, just give it a small windup

[olive perch]

Or just counter it

[slate harbor]

Dude just dont be near the void

It is that easy

If they want to reach you, they will have to go away from the void

[slate harbor]

Yes

[slate harbor]

You are actually right

[olive perch]

fr most of grapples users who does that don’t even attack ppl who use defense abilites because it counters there whole moveset barrier, magnet mastery and etc so most likely they will avoid them and not try it on them

[crimson plume]

this just makes grapple worse in design choice, it would feel more like a long range shackle ability

[finite harness]

another thing: Shouldn't we remove sit? It's p2w and just adds onto grapple, isn't that unfair tho?

[crimson plume]

they havent removed any seat glitches

[slate harbor]

Fym p2w

[crimson plume]

seat is very p2w btw

[slate harbor]

Oh wait

You mean the emote?

[olive perch]

https://tenor.com/view/skeleton-falling-gif-18145514339307366392

[finite harness]

uh yes mr delayed reaction

braincells taking their sweet time to connect those dots

[slate harbor]

Just to let you know, you didn't specify at all

[finite harness]

where else would there be sit?

[slate harbor]

The ability

[finite harness]

its called seat

I am pretty sure

[slate harbor]

Well nice to know that actually

[olive perch]

U have to sit in the seat to sit 😎

[slate harbor]

Damn

Anyway uhh, yea sit is p2w

[olive perch]

CINEMA 👋

[crimson plume]

car

[finite harness]

godpunch seems more fair, its just default but with 1 shot. Sit emote is upgrade with no real downside

[finite harness]

uh quick question, who asked??

[finite harness]

is this meant to be about the seats = sitting or?

[crimson plume]

i dont need someone to ask for me to put a car

[olive perch]

That mean

[finite harness]

go send it in artwork, or even general

ya don't randomly send it here

[olive perch]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-kitty-kitten-angry-mad-gif-16754054616247640902

[slate harbor]

Why bro is being mean

[crimson plume]

theres no rules against it???

[finite harness]

well there is no reason to do it

[slate harbor]

Why does that even bothers you

[finite harness]

besides craving attention and showing it to 3 guys

[olive perch]

I can’t stop laughing I am full of giggles it overwhelming me and no one craving attention

[crimson plume]

i dont have to have a reason bruh

[slate harbor]

But car=cool

[finite harness]

mau, question, how would the grapple wind up work? Because that would make grapple a way worse ablity, unless its fast where its obsolete, so whats the effective sweet spot?

[crimson plume]

windup like bounty hunter mastery probably

[slate harbor]

What the cake mastery guy said

[finite harness]

at what point does it make normal combos bad, or make it useless preventing people from sniping you

[finite harness]

okay thats reasonable

[slate harbor]

It would only make it bad if it slows you down

[olive perch]

Bhm doesn’t have a wind up

[crimson plume]

it has a short one

[slate harbor]

It does

[crimson plume]

its not really noticeable but it does

[olive perch]

well atleast for the Q

[crimson plume]

im pretty sure both do

[finite harness]

how'd bro get brick battler, 11th question done, and ablity warrior, but someone didn't notice that?

[olive perch]

the e is straight up so fast and instant

[slate harbor]

E bullet is just so fucking fast that the windup doesnt do much

[finite harness]

well personally fans are overrated

[crimson plume]

ability warrior is easy i got it at like 100k punches

[finite harness]

100k????

[olive perch]

Yea it is for me get

[slate harbor]

Is easy to get all of that

Well I think so

Cuz I got ability warrior just when the badge released

[crimson plume]

ability warrior isnt difficult

[slate harbor]

So idrk

[olive perch]

yea it not tbh besides when u tryna do dos

[slate harbor]

The only problem are new badges that gets added

[crimson plume]

i did it like 5th try

[slate harbor]

But is not a problem at all

[crimson plume]

they cant delete badges you keep them no matter what but i still got warden anyways

[slate harbor]

[olive perch]

I stole a guy souls and got mines lol

He had 300 btw

[slate harbor]

How did you even killed them

[crimson plume]

300 is a bad phase ngl cuz its buggy

[slate harbor]

Idk much about 300 gameplay, I literally just got it there and reseted right after just to try engineer

[olive perch]

My friends distracted his lil body guards and I sneak him I had him in a combo and knock him off

[slate harbor]

That's actually a good strategy

[finite harness]

"how did you even killed them" words of a genius-

[slate harbor]

I mean, how a 0 kills dos would kill a 300 dos by their own?

[olive perch]

He got real mad and I gave my friends quest to and I left afterwards to immediately so he wouldn’t get it back lol

[finite harness]

I was making a joke on how you said that wrong

[olive perch]

It was hard it wasn’t easy it took pure strategy

[slate harbor]

Dos users trying to not get mad after dying: impossible

[slate harbor]

I didn't realize

[finite harness]

isn't strawberry the best icecream flavour tho

[slate harbor]

Thanks I think?

My main language isnt english

[crimson plume]

[olive perch]

Fr why get mad when u also killing us it makes no sense

[slate harbor]

Yea

People are just trying to play at peace again 🥀

[crimson plume]

SOME people in aw have the largest egos in the entire universe bro 😭

[slate harbor]

I almost completly quit because of them

[finite harness]

istg, there is this guy called cobalt bee, all he does is team, and if he isn't he makes up stories LITERALLY to say that he some how killed me. Then yippty yaps when I kill him fairly

[olive perch]

Yea true most of time I just play games that peaceful they be slick harassing me in there and be so disorted from reality they become delusional I just play Mario games bc there no drama just me

[finite harness]

mario party appears in the shadows

[crimson plume]

all roguelike games on roblox are so peak i genuinely dont know why

[olive perch]

Yes I love that game but my fav is super Mario galaxy

[slate harbor]

I got targeted by one of turn just because I combo them and killed them

[crimson plume]

i havent seen a single bad roguelike on roblox

[slate harbor]

And even called me hacker because I was faster than usual (I was using puppet)

[finite harness]

super mario galaxy is quite literally, one of the best games , the second was eh, oddesey was good.

[slate harbor]

Mario Galaxy is pure cinema bro

[crimson plume]

also im gonna stop chatting cuz this is bumping this suggestion too much and i dont think people really care about grapple

[slate harbor]

Call me glazer, but I think the game is a 10/10

[crimson plume]

move to #chat

[slate harbor]

I forgot about grapple lol

We got too off topic

[olive perch]

Oh yea my bad

[finite harness]

er, aren't you the same guy who posted engineer car for no reason

[slate harbor]

Nah, too many people there chatting

I will just stop too

[olive perch]

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