#make it to where god punch could be more of a conditional one shot similar to quantum but easier

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wooden mortar
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this is too difficult to complicate

alpine geyser
wooden mortar
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or maybe rework it, to be fair unconditional one shots are unbalanced

alpine geyser
wooden mortar
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why?

alpine geyser
wooden mortar
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in exchange for something actually interesting?

alpine geyser
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And not for a rework of the ability that was a one-shot

wooden mortar
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then give them some sort of other benefit like admin commands in private servers

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doesnt matter over making the game actually fun

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its why plasma and freeze were reworked

wooden mortar
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cause it is unfun as hell having to deal with some targetter who you cant get near ever,

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otherwise you lose if the game bugs out for a split second

alpine geyser
wooden mortar
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conditional one shots

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they are actually stuff you gotta work for

alpine geyser
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The game would lose players; you're worried about yourself, and I'm worried about the community

alpine geyser
wooden mortar
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it wouldnt lose that many in exchange for an actually interesting ability

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other devs have changed something that players paid for and the fanbase didnt care

alpine geyser
wooden mortar
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so why would it be that different for ability wars?

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people play devourerer to get the same thing with actual effort and speed on top of that

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along with becoming god at 300

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any other ability is more fun to fight and play against,

alpine geyser
wooden mortar
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but this isnt 500 dollars

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and it isnt becoming free

alpine geyser
wooden mortar
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5 bucks

alpine geyser
wooden mortar
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and they get another ACTUALLY INTERESTING ability

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it wouldnt

alpine geyser
wooden mortar
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if so, then give them compensation

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maybe make it to where the rework could still contain the one shot

alpine geyser
wooden mortar
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not that hard lol

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maybe even make a poll

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there are so many things you can do that you arent considering

alpine geyser
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If you withdraw this, it would be a scam

wooden mortar
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and you wonder why you dont see too many god punch users right?

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cause it is unfun

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people switch to other abilities cause they are more fun

alpine geyser
wooden mortar
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the only unique thing about god punch is the nuke that kills no one

alpine geyser
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Everyone sees god punch users

wooden mortar
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i only see them cause like half the server switches to it whenever i am rebirth stage 2 hivemind

alpine geyser
maiden socket
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Ok what is this

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Dawg

wooden mortar
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changing an ability up

maiden socket
wooden mortar
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and actually focusing on the fun for your players

alpine geyser
maiden socket
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For gp?

wooden mortar
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yes

maiden socket
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Where is the rework

wooden mortar
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it has shifted that much

maiden socket
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Was it eaten

wooden mortar
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she said that making an ability worse

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is scamming the entire playerbase

alpine geyser
wooden mortar
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i sugguested changing it up a bit

maiden socket
wooden mortar
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maybe making the one shot more conditional

alpine geyser
maiden socket
wooden mortar
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not saying bad

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im saying worse

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not gutting it

wooden mortar
alpine geyser
wooden mortar
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IT IS TO NERF GOD PUNCH SLIGHTLY BY NOT MAKING HIM ONE SHOT SCALING ABILITIES

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NOT ABOUT ANY REWORKS

maiden socket
alpine geyser
wooden mortar
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other damn abilities

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actual combos and skills with the rest of the server

maiden socket
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Ok another thing

alpine geyser
maiden socket
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Just making it dos?

wooden mortar
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instead of being pay to win

wooden mortar
alpine geyser
wooden mortar
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its almost like it is meant to be rewarding

alpine geyser
alpine geyser
maiden socket
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But how does this system work anyway

alpine geyser
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If you move forward without thinking, it's clear you're going to lose

wooden mortar
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yea

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no dip sherlock

maiden socket
alpine geyser
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Now, if you play passively and wait, you will rarely get hit

alpine geyser
wooden mortar
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we are getting off topic yknow

alpine geyser
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So basically it would be a skill issue

wooden mortar
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the whole thing was about god punch being skillless

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and funless

alpine geyser
wooden mortar
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y e a

maiden socket
wooden mortar
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a 0 punch person

maiden socket
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Now

alpine geyser
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So "no skill" is not a reason

wooden mortar
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who just joined the game

alpine geyser
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God Punch has many, many counters

wooden mortar
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can get it with less than 5 dollars

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like?

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zoners

alpine geyser
wooden mortar
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it is

alpine geyser
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The game needs money

maiden socket
wooden mortar
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so instead of making it pay to win

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make it fun

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kinda like costum

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custom

maiden socket
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This rework makes gp dos so just get dos, and will make gp a scam

alpine geyser
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People paid for a one-shot, I guarantee that

wooden mortar
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it wouldnt though

alpine geyser
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An easy one-shot

wooden mortar
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yes

maiden socket
alpine geyser
wooden mortar
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cause they are bums who cant learn the game

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is this really that hard?

alpine geyser
alpine geyser
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If you struggle with a time stop when using DOS, The problem isn't with the game itself, and if you lose to any other ability, that's also a problem

wooden mortar
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i never said that lmao

maiden socket
alpine geyser
wooden mortar
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i was giving examples of ways to kill god punch

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that dont require the pay to win fraudpunch

alpine geyser
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GP sustains the game and is also easy to counter; the entire suggestion was made so that God Punch wouldn't affect killstreak abilities

alpine geyser
wooden mortar
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and we completely shifted off topic didnt we

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i know it is easy to counter

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but it is so damn annoying

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cause i gotta completely shift all my attention away, and wait and sit

alpine geyser
wooden mortar
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cause usually they are at the front lines

maiden socket
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Oh wait read it wrong

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Yep thats worse

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Dos just immortal to gp killing it easily

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Nice

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And hivemind to

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Nice

alpine geyser
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It is literally one of the most reliable counters

wooden mortar
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i know but it is still a nuisance

alpine geyser
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It forces DOS to step back and create riskier strategies

alpine geyser
maiden socket
alpine geyser
wooden mortar
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it could still deal immense amounts of damage and knockback

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like maybe set them to 1hp

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it is saying just "not oneshot"

alpine geyser
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This would only further stress DOS players

wooden mortar
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well i mean

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the constant threat of being one shotted is also stressing

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even if the odds are small

maiden socket
wooden mortar
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man

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i dont got gif perms :(

alpine geyser
wooden mortar
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yea

alpine geyser
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You're basically a god punch with speed

wooden mortar
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but if they are in a situation where the god punch is in the middle of a crowd

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and the godpunch isnt dumb

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you will hit anyone else but the god punch if u wanna remove that threat

alpine geyser
wooden mortar
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yea

alpine geyser
maiden socket
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Can you use the ability to avoid gp? Like thst which u get iframes

wooden mortar
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i just remembered time exists

alpine geyser
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If he stays in the middle, you go around the middle, and if he follows you, you just walk

wooden mortar
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they should make it to where time isnt full map range ngl

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though you can still target the time to stop them

alpine geyser
wooden mortar
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yea fair

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though he will still be able to get 1 to 2 punches off

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which can still easily kill

alpine geyser
wooden mortar
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avoid what?

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you cant move in time stop

alpine geyser
wooden mortar
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yes but it covers the whole map

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thats why i said 1-2 punches

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not 5-6

maiden socket
alpine geyser
wooden mortar
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yea

blissful ginkgo
alpine geyser
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Ragebait

wooden mortar
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damn they changed it, that's neat

alpine geyser
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The time stop doesn't cover the entire map at all

maiden socket
alpine geyser
wooden mortar
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look i havent seen a time stop user in a while

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and now i have found out why

wooden mortar
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im being deadass i saw a kick user before time stop

wooden mortar
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;-;

alpine geyser
lusty thicket
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God reading ops messages giving me an aneurysm

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How hard is it to see that changing a paid ability to be worse would be unfair on the people who paid for it

amber harbor
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but they seriously need to make it more interesting

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its why i dont want to buy it

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its plain

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generic

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and i can already pretty much get it for free

wooden mortar
wooden mortar
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but yea

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it has been a withstanding issue in balancing

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conditional one shots are usually fair if done right

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and it wouldnt be a scam

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they paid for access on the god punch

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no one mains it for a reason

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but yet custom mains exist

hushed plank
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skill issue, just dodge the oneshots

amber violet
wooden mortar
# hushed plank skill issue, just dodge the oneshots

the spammable one shot attack that any time you decide to try to push you could end up one shotted unless you are plasma, in that case you get two shotted unless if you are not using ur shield which has a cooldown

hushed plank
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just stay away if you can't handle the flames

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your complaining about stuff that could easily be fixed

amber violet
hushed plank
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just stay away from them

amber violet
hushed plank
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ik

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:p

rich needle
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Gp is mid, just a more powerful default, no need to rework it

hushed plank
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especially with such easy counters

rich needle
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Exactly

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Even default could beat god punch if you know how to play

lusty thicket
wooden mortar
tawny lily
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This will just make harder trying to kill both DOS and Hivemind, specially DOS

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And killing both is already hard and painful enough

wooden mortar
tawny lily
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Is NOT

wooden mortar
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It is fun to fairly fight and kill a devourerer

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Or hivemind

tawny lily
wooden mortar
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Past a certain amount sure

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But god punch cant do shit at a certain point either

tawny lily
tawny lily
wooden mortar
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Cause i was traumatized at one point when the entire server was god punch when i had only about 8 kills,

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And god punch pisses me off when im hivemind

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Gets in the way way too much

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Thus draining my meter

tawny lily
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The server was just trying to save the whole server

wooden mortar
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with the most nuclear option possible

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And what did you want me to do?

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Also to be fair god punch is really boring of an ability that is so boring to fight and be

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Only usable in grinding

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Which is LAZY

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And getting targetted for playing hivemind when you are lower level SUCKS

tawny lily
wooden mortar
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Well why not rework it? The people who have it probably wouldnt mind a new ability

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Maybe make it a scaling ability into the old ability

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Make it feel earned?

alpine geyser
wooden mortar
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Honestly a rebalance and rework wouldnt be that bad

alpine geyser
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Like 2 gamepasses

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Or 3

wooden mortar
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Well people could still obtain it through actual effort

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Makes it more fun, same old ability, more content

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Win win

alpine geyser
wooden mortar
alpine geyser
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That would make it 10 god punches against a killstreak

tawny lily
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And would be a scam actually

alpine geyser
fossil garden
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if i paid for a oneshot, i want a one shot

alpine geyser
wooden mortar
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Just saying it would allow people to have more fun by getting more gameplay ontop of god punch

wooden mortar
alpine geyser
fossil garden
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is it really a one shot if it doesn't one shot someone

wooden mortar
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LIKE DUDE

wooden mortar
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you can still get what you bought through playing the game you like

fossil garden
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still not what i bought

wooden mortar
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It isnt that hard to play a game

alpine geyser
wooden mortar
fossil garden
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i mean according to you it is

wooden mortar
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by using the ability you paid for

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The ability

fossil garden
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not an ability that can become one

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if you had to cook a meal

wooden mortar
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which is what you wanted, the one shot

fossil garden
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and you went to the store to buy idk a tomato

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would you rather buy seeds and wait for it to grow into a tomato

wooden mortar
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If you had to cook

fossil garden
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or skip right to the end and just buy a tomato

wooden mortar
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And liked cooking

alpine geyser
wooden mortar
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You would buy the ingredients to cook

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If you liked a game

fossil garden
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so would you rather buy the seeds to the ingredient, or the fruit directly

wooden mortar
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You would buy the game

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And play it

fossil garden
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would you rather buy the seeds to the ingredient, or the fruit directly, on a meal that needs to be done immediately

wooden mortar
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get the tomato

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But you would still have to cook said tomato

alpine geyser
wooden mortar
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With other ingredients

fossil garden
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so then, why would i want to wait to get my one shot, instead of getting it immediately to deal with the problem

alpine geyser
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If you add that, you remove the reason why people paid

wooden mortar
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cause you could have fun, and play the game you "enjoy"

wooden mortar
fossil garden
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who's saying im not having fun

wooden mortar
alpine geyser
wooden mortar
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You have a nuke that EVERYONE will dodge

fossil garden
alpine geyser
wooden mortar
fossil garden
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also again

alpine geyser
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It's possible to dodge the nuke if God Punch uses it if I'm right next to him

fossil garden
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i paid for a one shot ability

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not one that gets better overtime

wooden mortar
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Like quantum

alpine geyser
fossil garden
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and i do use quantum

wooden mortar
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So just use quantum

fossil garden
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why do that when i have god

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much easier to use

wooden mortar
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Or any other ability that lets you one shot combo people

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And that's the issue

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It is too easy to use

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Makes it boring to fight

alpine geyser
fossil garden
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idc

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i bought something to one shot ppl

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ofc it's going to be boring

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that is the whole aspect of the ability

wooden mortar
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just use any other more fun ability

fossil garden
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people bought it not expecting to do be crazy

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i do

wooden mortar
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Like ability warrior mastery can basically one shot people for free

fossil garden
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when the time comes to use god it serves the purpose well

wooden mortar
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Just use that

alpine geyser
wooden mortar
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You get a kamehameha too

fossil garden
alpine geyser
wooden mortar
fossil garden
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you're also forgetting the analogy of the tomato and the seed

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why wait a while to one shot someone when you can do it immediately

alpine geyser
wooden mortar
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You still should cook the tomato

fossil garden
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exactly

wooden mortar
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Or add it with something else

fossil garden
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the tomato is the immediate option

wooden mortar
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You wont do neither

fossil garden
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which in this case is god

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you can choose 3 options

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the seed- wait a while to one shot them

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the tomato- one shot them immediately

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or nothing- you do nothing

wooden mortar
alpine geyser
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And the rework that OP mentioned is awful

wooden mortar
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Does 80%

alpine geyser
wooden mortar
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Which you can then combo after

alpine geyser
fossil garden
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but remember you also got to get 3 kills

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i believe

wooden mortar
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You cant anymore?

fossil garden
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that is too long

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in most cases, you want the person dead immediately

wooden mortar
fossil garden
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god fits perfectlyt

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not complaining

wooden mortar
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You just did

alpine geyser
fossil garden
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im saying

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it takes to long if there is a DOS that has like 20 kills

alpine geyser
wooden mortar
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And even with that case

fossil garden
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by the time you get the 3 kills, the DOS either has killed you or has 40 kills now

wooden mortar
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Devourerer is just better god punch

fossil garden
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takes too long to get

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you need atleast 50 kills

alpine geyser
wooden mortar
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Yea

alpine geyser
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That's why the rework you mentioned wouldn't work

wooden mortar
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And you can become god of the server at 300 kills

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Reworking god punch would be the right option

alpine geyser
wooden mortar
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If you can just get it for free right?

fossil garden
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yeah around 15 kills it becomes a little difficult to kill

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so god punch is a great option to get them

alpine geyser
fossil garden
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or you can wait so long using ability warrior

wooden mortar
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They can just avoid you

fossil garden
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what a lie

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what a lie

alpine geyser
wooden mortar
fossil garden
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have you even played this game before?

wooden mortar
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Yes

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Every god punch user is usually trashy at the game

fossil garden
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well that's barely believeable

wooden mortar
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Whenever i meet one

alpine geyser
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Ability of the handcuffs + God Punch

wooden mortar
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Handcuffs?

fossil garden
wooden mortar
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Did they add that back?

alpine geyser
alpine geyser
wooden mortar
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Neat

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They can see the abilities that people are using

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And stay away

fossil garden
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not with shackle users

wooden mortar
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It literally says the ability name above

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If the devourerer cant read

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Then...

fossil garden
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not what im implying

wooden mortar
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Damn

alpine geyser
wooden mortar
fossil garden
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every DOS i've came across with a lot of kills

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still attacks shackle

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which allows for an opening for a gp or smth to get them

wooden mortar
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They are morons then

fossil garden
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ironic...

wooden mortar
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They only understand color codes

alpine geyser
alpine geyser
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So it's the best option

alpine geyser
wooden mortar
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No it aint dude

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I would see that a mile away

fossil garden
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also if you hate gp so much

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just avoid them

alpine geyser
wooden mortar
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God punch targetters exist yknow

alpine geyser
fossil garden
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avoid them

alpine geyser
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Bomb

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Cake

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Bounty hunter mastery

fossil garden
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gravity mastery is rlly good against gp

fossil garden
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(mostly for blue)

wooden mortar
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Never said they didnt have counters

fossil garden
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its also good against DOS

wooden mortar
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Just said they are annoying

alpine geyser
wooden mortar
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Counters are boring

fossil garden
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if you refuse to do something about the god users in your server

alpine geyser
fossil garden
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don't complain about them

wooden mortar
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Tell me a counter to 300 devourerer then?

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Big brain

errant iron
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5 unmas magnet users

alpine geyser
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Malice

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GP

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Enginner

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Magnet

wooden mortar
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The hell is malice

alpine geyser
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Magnet mastery

alpine geyser
fossil garden
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dear goodness

wooden mortar
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Dude they all get turned to dust

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No actually what is malice

alpine geyser
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Are you sure you play the game?

wooden mortar
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Yea

errant iron
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lies

fossil garden
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custom is decent with magic darts

alpine geyser
wooden mortar
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Tell me what the ability does and i might recognise it

fossil garden
wooden mortar
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Are you talking about jack'o sword

wooden mortar
alpine geyser
wooden mortar
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Oh that one

alpine geyser
fossil garden
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then don't let them see you till last second

wooden mortar
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Isnt alt farming bannable?

fossil garden
errant iron
wooden mortar
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Wow

alpine geyser
fossil garden
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sweet

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my fav ability

wooden mortar
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Not if they speed blitz yo

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You

alpine geyser
fossil garden
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railgun mastery when😔

wooden mortar
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Last time i tried that i got rushdowned by someone faster than a professional race car

alpine geyser
wooden mortar
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Dude

fossil garden
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r we dead srs

wooden mortar
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Railgun users barely exist

alpine geyser
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And there are many time users out there

wooden mortar
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That was a while since ive seen time

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Time is rare

errant iron
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no its not

wooden mortar
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Well now i know

alpine geyser
fossil garden
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atleast he didn't say engi was rare...

wooden mortar
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It isnt

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Dice is peak though, happy they added that back

potent prism
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Just avoid God Punch?

wooden mortar
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oh yea i forgot about the og post

fossil garden
errant iron
fossil garden
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how'd i just kill a dude with railguns siphon

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also if we want to talk about OP abilities look at bind

wooden mortar
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oh yea

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didnt they rework it?

errant iron
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did you just crawl out of a museum???

fossil garden
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did you just start playing again?

maiden socket
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/j

pseudo stratus
pseudo stratus
wooden mortar
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I mean it would be pretty cool if they had tanks for the mastery

humble sedge
pseudo stratus
wooden mortar
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I know

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But it would be cool

pseudo stratus
wooden mortar
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Hmmmm

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I wonder what ideas he has

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Nothing nefarious yknow?

final imp
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We are not gonna remove a dos counter

bitter path
hushed plank
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skill issues

solemn tusk
wooden mortar
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also it could still one shot

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just under a condition

bitter path
wooden mortar
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they are quintessential

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like quantum

bitter path
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i still do not see any point in reworking the only true one shot ability in the game

green depot
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tf

wooden mortar
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well you cant really put effort into such a simple concept,

green depot
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yes you can

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you can explain it, how it works, and why.

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easy paragraph or two

mild sparrow
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God punch is one shot but don't have any speed buff so you just need to run away from them

wooden mortar
indigo river
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Skill issue lel

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  • low effort suggestion
green depot
wooden mortar
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like cmon,

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it dont have to be the very exact intricacies over that it shouldnt just be a free one shot

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yes im aware of the title of the post

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but unfortunately i cannot change it

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nevermind found out how

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make it to where god punch could be more of a conditional one shot similar to quantum but easier

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now this post is finally on topic with the off-topicness people yammered on about

rich needle
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The title isn’t the problem. The problem is that god punch is a mediocre ability that isn’t game breaking or destroys the experience of the game completely, and it’s ok to have a one shot in the game, considering it’s literally the only one. Plus it’s just a glorified default, it’s not op

final imp
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Why do you wanna remove a counter to Dos and Hivemind. The 2 streak abilities that can dominate servers in under 10 minutes if played right, Hivemind is stupidly easy to get a streak with, and dos is smooth sailing once you get 15, which isn't difficult. God punch counters both of these hard, so fuck no

green depot
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What are you on abt bro

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It IS op in a general sense just mostly bad people use it

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the idea of such a easy 1 shot is boring and a horrible idea

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And also a move that can 1 shot with a little less then a quarter of the map range?

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realistically only ranged moves can counter gp but if the gp can dodge correctly not much can counter it

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so it IS op but not many people using it is very good

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it IS kinda game breaking since it’s a easy 1 shot and it DOES ruin gameplay sometimes since people third party and shi

rich needle
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The 1 shot map range ability is not very good, you literally have to be shackled near to die to it. What I mean by “not ruining gameplay” is that a singular godpunch isn’t going to ruin everyone’s experience, third partying is a whole different thing, sorry if I didn’t make myself clear.

rich needle
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So I guess they want that horrible idea

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Kinda would be a scam to change what they payed for

indigo river
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A one shot should stay a one shot

humble sedge
green depot
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like the idea of something that can 1 shot by punch is obv op

rich needle
humble sedge
indigo river
rich needle
indigo river
humble sedge
humble sedge
indigo river
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But pretty much the same anyway

humble sedge
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Just void camp at low souls

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And hivemind u just have to learn to combo someone

green depot
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They alr were thou

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and can we all agree gp needs a rework

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specifically dos and hive

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How do u suggest we rework it then

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Make a suggestion

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Okeh

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I’m working on the other shit ability wars has done

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Like wat

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since there’s like 10k things aw has messed up 💔

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Like wat

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Yus

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Some no skill nub be camping at void for punches

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and a god lot of nerfs

indigo river
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And some other discord stuff

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Make suggestion

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like I posted a suggestion on put the ideas devs have in norm suggestions

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I take time on suggestions

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Okeh

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and make sure they’re perfect

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I shall wait

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