#make it to where god punch could be more of a conditional one shot similar to quantum but easier
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"balancing"
or maybe rework it, to be fair unconditional one shots are unbalanced
This would be a scam for whoever bought it
why?
They would lose what they paid for
in exchange for something actually interesting?
They paid for a one-shot
And not for a rework of the ability that was a one-shot
then give them some sort of other benefit like admin commands in private servers
doesnt matter over making the game actually fun
its why plasma and freeze were reworked
if they paid for a one shot then use an ability that allows for one shotting of other players, like quantum, or actually work for it like devourerer
cause it is unfun as hell having to deal with some targetter who you cant get near ever,
otherwise you lose if the game bugs out for a split second
Again, this would be a scam; DOS is weak in the early game and Quantum is easy to dodge
The game would lose players; you're worried about yourself, and I'm worried about the community
God Punch is a PAID item; a rework would be a SCAM
it wouldnt lose that many in exchange for an actually interesting ability
other devs have changed something that players paid for and the fanbase didnt care
People pay for God Punch to get a simple and easy one-shot
so why would it be that different for ability wars?
people play devourerer to get the same thing with actual effort and speed on top of that
along with becoming god at 300
any other ability is more fun to fight and play against,
If I spent 500 dollars on a game and it became free and I didn't get a refund, that would be unfair, wouldn't it?
It's still real money here
5 bucks
A rework would be a scam
It's still a scam, that's common knowledge
if so, then give them compensation
maybe make it to where the rework could still contain the one shot
This would only be accepted with the community's approval
not that hard lol
maybe even make a poll
there are so many things you can do that you arent considering
God Punch players paid for an easy one-shot ability
If you withdraw this, it would be a scam
and you wonder why you dont see too many god punch users right?
cause it is unfun
people switch to other abilities cause they are more fun
I see it every day.
the only unique thing about god punch is the nuke that kills no one
Everyone sees god punch users
i only see them cause like half the server switches to it whenever i am rebirth stage 2 hivemind
You forgot again about the easy one-shot they PAID for
changing an ability up
A rework
and actually focusing on the fun for your players
Because it's the easiest method, the god punch is used in various other situations as well
For gp?
yes
Where is the rework
it has shifted that much
Was it eaten
A rework that he didn't mention and that he doesn't think is a scam
i sugguested changing it up a bit
Where
maybe making the one shot more conditional
Making a paid ability turn bad is scamming the player base
Where...
LOOK AT THE DAMN SUGGUESTION,
The suggestion would be terrible because it removes one of the only ways to kill a large number of killstreaks
IT IS TO NERF GOD PUNCH SLIGHTLY BY NOT MAKING HIM ONE SHOT SCALING ABILITIES
NOT ABOUT ANY REWORKS
Why the fuck is the entire suggestion just the title
time,
The nerf is completely awful and unbalanced
Ok another thing
Just walking backwards isn't difficult.
Just making it dos?
instead of being pay to win
not when people are attacking you
You can avoid all of them starting from 15 souls
its almost like it is meant to be rewarding
If you are hit multiple times with more than 15 souls, the problem is you, not the game
It's about having time for the punches
But how does this system work anyway
If you move forward without thinking, it's clear you're going to lose
Could u specify more than just being 10 words?
Now, if you play passively and wait, you will rarely get hit
we are getting off topic yknow
So basically it would be a skill issue
So many abilities are in the no skill category, and nobody cares about that; stronger abilities should be strong
y e a
Is gp just worse dos?
a 0 punch person
Now
So "no skill" is not a reason
who just joined the game
God Punch has many, many counters
This is how the game sustains itself
it is
The game needs money
The gp?
This rework makes gp dos so just get dos, and will make gp a scam
In other words, it's a scam and it would cause the game to lose even more money
People paid for a one-shot, I guarantee that
it wouldnt though
An easy one-shot
yes
It is, cuz this is just devourer of souls
People paid for a one-shot
And you're the bad one here who came to complain precisely because you don't know how to counter
???
If you struggle with a time stop when using DOS, The problem isn't with the game itself, and if you lose to any other ability, that's also a problem
i never said that lmao
Bro really hates gp users
That's literally what your answers implied
i was giving examples of ways to kill god punch
that dont require the pay to win fraudpunch
GP sustains the game and is also easy to counter; the entire suggestion was made so that God Punch wouldn't affect killstreak abilities
The game is sustained by this; God Punch is easy to counter
and we completely shifted off topic didnt we
i know it is easy to counter
but it is so damn annoying
cause i gotta completely shift all my attention away, and wait and sit
The suggestion is asking that GP not one-shot killstreak abilities, removing one of the most reliable counters
cause usually they are at the front lines
Oh wait read it wrong
Yep thats worse
Dos just immortal to gp killing it easily
Nice
And hivemind to
Nice
Just step away😭 The god punch doesn't have as much speed as you, so you just need to back away
It is literally one of the most reliable counters
i know but it is still a nuisance
It forces DOS to step back and create riskier strategies
And that makes the server's victory possible
So we just make dos and hivemind kill it easily and gp die from them, good solution in your dreams ig
So you nerf all killstreaks so players would have a chance
it could still deal immense amounts of damage and knockback
like maybe set them to 1hp
it is saying just "not oneshot"
And what does that change?
This would only further stress DOS players
well i mean
the constant threat of being one shotted is also stressing
even if the odds are small
Gp will have 1 hp?
Just step away and you'll avoid that ability😭
yea
You're basically a god punch with speed
but if they are in a situation where the god punch is in the middle of a crowd
and the godpunch isnt dumb
you will hit anyone else but the god punch if u wanna remove that threat
You just need to walk around the middle instead of staying there
yea
If you avoid God Punch as much as possible, you can literally counter it completely; I got 300 souls that way
Can you use the ability to avoid gp? Like thst which u get iframes
i just remembered time exists
If he stays in the middle, you go around the middle, and if he follows you, you just walk
they should make it to where time isnt full map range ngl
though you can still target the time to stop them
From 15 souls onwards, you can either run or see his ability and run
yea fair
though he will still be able to get 1 to 2 punches off
which can still easily kill
Obviously not, you have enough speed to avoid it from the moment he uses the time stop
You can move during the wind-up of the E
Time stop?

yea
is bro playing classic 😭
Ragebait
damn they changed it, that's neat
The time stop doesn't cover the entire map at all

im being deadass i saw a kick user before time stop
;-;
Im yoinking this

God reading ops messages giving me an aneurysm
How hard is it to see that changing a paid ability to be worse would be unfair on the people who paid for it

a rework that doesnt keep the one shot
but they seriously need to make it more interesting
its why i dont want to buy it
its plain
generic
and i can already pretty much get it for free
i paid for it yet i dont think it would be unfair..
never said it couldnt keep the one shot, i even explicity said it could keep it
but yea
it has been a withstanding issue in balancing
conditional one shots are usually fair if done right
and it wouldnt be a scam
they paid for access on the god punch
no one mains it for a reason
but yet custom mains exist
skill issue, just dodge the oneshots
Better solution: go back in time and prevent the devs from creating god punch in the first place.
the spammable one shot attack that any time you decide to try to push you could end up one shotted unless you are plasma, in that case you get two shotted unless if you are not using ur shield which has a cooldown
just stay away if you can't handle the flames
your complaining about stuff that could easily be fixed
Yes, erasing god punch from this timeline is a way more efficient way to solve this problem
-# /J
just stay away from them
The /j means joke
Gp is mid, just a more powerful default, no need to rework it
especially with such easy counters
That’s good! But unfortunately a fair portion of the people who purchased it would have purchased it for the OPness
im saying that the majority of the fanbase wouldnt really care all that much
Stardust
No
This will just make harder trying to kill both DOS and Hivemind, specially DOS
And killing both is already hard and painful enough
Thats the fun part of it yknow, having abruptly end is boring
Fym is fun?
Is NOT
DOS is not fair
After 15 kills
Yea so what's the point of nerfing it?
Cause i was traumatized at one point when the entire server was god punch when i had only about 8 kills,
And god punch pisses me off when im hivemind
Gets in the way way too much
Thus draining my meter
That doesnt justify a nerf
The server was just trying to save the whole server
with the most nuclear option possible
And what did you want me to do?
Also to be fair god punch is really boring of an ability that is so boring to fight and be
Only usable in grinding
Which is LAZY
And getting targetted for playing hivemind when you are lower level SUCKS
Ofc it is, but cant be reworked because people will feel scammed
Well why not rework it? The people who have it probably wouldnt mind a new ability
Maybe make it a scaling ability into the old ability
Make it feel earned?
Only with a HUGE compensation
Honestly a rebalance and rework wouldnt be that bad
Well people could still obtain it through actual effort
Makes it more fun, same old ability, more content
Win win
Making gamepasses obtainable through playing makes the situation even worse
Isnt the whole point of playing a game is to play it?
If the problem with God Punch is that against killstreaks there are many people with God Punch, imagine if you were using it for free
That would make it 10 god punches against a killstreak
Plus those who buy it will feel scammed
And would be a scam actually
if i paid for a oneshot, i want a one shot
🔥
Never said free dude
Just saying it would allow people to have more fun by getting more gameplay ontop of god punch
It could still be a one shot is this that hard
If you acquire the ability by playing, you don't spend anything to earn it (money)
is it really a one shot if it doesn't one shot someone
IM SAYING THAT YOU COULD OVER TIME, BY USING THE ABILITY TITLED GOD PUNCH, YOU COULD KINDA LIKE OTHER ABILITIES THAT GET STRONGER WITH TIME, GET TO A ONE SHOT
LIKE DUDE
not what i bought
This solves nothing
you can still get what you bought through playing the game you like
still not what i bought
It isnt that hard to play a game
Even so, the person spent money
You can still get what you bought
i mean according to you it is
i paid for a one shot ability
not an ability that can become one
if you had to cook a meal
which is what you wanted, the one shot
and you went to the store to buy idk a tomato
would you rather buy seeds and wait for it to grow into a tomato
If you had to cook
or skip right to the end and just buy a tomato
And liked cooking
The person wanted an easy-to-acquire one-shot; that's what he paid for
so would you rather buy the seeds to the ingredient, or the fruit directly
would you rather buy the seeds to the ingredient, or the fruit directly, on a meal that needs to be done immediately
Again, the person pays for an easy and instant one-shot😭
With other ingredients
so then, why would i want to wait to get my one shot, instead of getting it immediately to deal with the problem
If you add that, you remove the reason why people paid
cause you could have fun, and play the game you "enjoy"
And give then an even better reason
who's saying im not having fun
You dont get to fight anyone cause no one likes to fight god punch
If you're looking to win a one-shot over time, it's better to use DOS because you get both one-shot and speed
You have a nuke that EVERYONE will dodge
lowk i always forget that that exists
It's easy to Dodge 😭
Yea no shit
also again
It's possible to dodge the nuke if God Punch uses it if I'm right next to him
Other one shot abilities exist,
Like quantum
Easy to Dodge
and i do use quantum
So just use quantum
Or any other ability that lets you one shot combo people
And that's the issue
It is too easy to use
Makes it boring to fight
Easy to Dodge + the person paid for a one-shot
idc
i bought something to one shot ppl
ofc it's going to be boring
that is the whole aspect of the ability
just use any other more fun ability
Like ability warrior mastery can basically one shot people for free
when the time comes to use god it serves the purpose well
Just use that
Which are easy to avoid
You get a kamehameha too
hard to get
Easy to avoid
What do you mean
you're also forgetting the analogy of the tomato and the seed
why wait a while to one shot someone when you can do it immediately
There's no one-shot option with this ability😭
You still should cook the tomato
exactly
Or add it with something else
the tomato is the immediate option
You wont do neither
which in this case is god
you can choose 3 options
the seed- wait a while to one shot them
the tomato- one shot them immediately
or nothing- you do nothing
Max charge sword with swords
And the rework that OP mentioned is awful
Does 80%
It's not a one-shot
Which you can then combo after
You can't fully charge your swords while the guy is trapped
You cant anymore?
Dude you are seriously complaining over 3 kills?
You just did
Because if I want a one-shot over time, it's better to use DOS
Yes, 3 kills for an extremely easy-to-dodge laser
And even with that case
by the time you get the 3 kills, the DOS either has killed you or has 40 kills now
Devourerer is just better god punch
It's a god punch with speed
Yea
That's why the rework you mentioned wouldn't work
And you can become god of the server at 300 kills
Reworking god punch would be the right option
15 kills*, from 15 kills onwards you become a god punch
If you can just get it for free right?
yeah around 15 kills it becomes a little difficult to kill
so god punch is a great option to get them
Actually no, god punch is one of the most reliable counters to DOS
or you can wait so long using ability warrior
Gos punch is ass against devourerer
They can just avoid you
Obviously not
What dk you think i do?
have you even played this game before?
well that's barely believeable
Whenever i meet one
Ability of the handcuffs + God Punch
Handcuffs?
yeah shackle is great paired with gp
Did they add that back?
The new ability
Yes
not with shackle users
not what im implying
Damn
But in any case, the ability of the handcuffs can remain in the middle, which forces DOS to leave the safe zone
What are you then
every DOS i've came across with a lot of kills
still attacks shackle
which allows for an opening for a gp or smth to get them
They are morons then
ironic...
They only understand color codes
Actually, if the ability of the handcuffs dies, if I'm not mistaken the chain disappears too
it does
So it's the best option
So the best option is to attack them, although it's somewhat risky, but it's worth it
If two handcuffs end up in the middle, the DOS loses the safe zone; this is the best option
God punch targetters exist yknow
Stardust
avoid them
gravity mastery is rlly good against gp

(mostly for blue)
Never said they didnt have counters
its also good against DOS
Just said they are annoying
But you're complaining about something extremely easy to avoid
Counters are boring
if you refuse to do something about the god users in your server
Every ability has a counter; if you prefer to use the ability that has a disadvantage, it's not the game's fault
don't complain about them
5 unmas magnet users
Randomize
Malice
GP
Enginner
Magnet
The hell is malice
Magnet mastery

dear goodness
Are you sure you play the game?
Yea
lies
custom is decent with magic darts
Tell me what the ability does and i might recognise it
oh btw does railgun actually work against DOS
Are you talking about jack'o sword
Not if they see you
Yes
Oh that one
Just hide and use an alt
then don't let them see you till last second
Isnt alt farming bannable?
but uh does it work against a 300 DOS?
no
Wow
Yes
If you turn your back and then turn back around when the laser fires, the red line won't appear
railgun mastery when😔
Last time i tried that i got rushdowned by someone faster than a professional race car
They added a red line?
Ass
Dude
r we dead srs
Railgun users barely exist
You said that the E from the time covered the entire map
And there are many time users out there
no its not
Well now i know
atleast he didn't say engi was rare...
Just avoid God Punch?
oh yea i forgot about the og post
🔥
i lowk did too
i dont want to fear god punch users,
i want them to fear me
how'd i just kill a dude with railguns siphon
also if we want to talk about OP abilities look at bind
did you just crawl out of a museum???
did you just start playing again?
/j
I mean it would be pretty cool if they had tanks for the mastery
I would be still happy tho if God punch was reworked into something 10x better
What he meant was have a whole new ability
We are not gonna remove a dos counter
as much as i hate god punch, the ability shouldn’t change as it would not be interesting enough for every ability to not one shot
skill issues
hahaha relatable Decaythefox
o t h e r a b i l i t i e s o n e s h o t,
also it could still one shot
just under a condition
no other abilities (excluding dos) are a true one shot
i still do not see any point in reworking the only true one shot ability in the game
how has this reached 500+ msgs without it being closed for low effort
tf
well you cant really put effort into such a simple concept,
No
Don't ruin my egg+god punch combo🐟
God punch is one shot but don't have any speed buff so you just need to run away from them
"i need you to give me... 50 facts about doorknobs"-Mr.Krupp
okay a stupid one
like cmon,
it dont have to be the very exact intricacies over that it shouldnt just be a free one shot
yes im aware of the title of the post
but unfortunately i cannot change it
nevermind found out how
make it to where god punch could be more of a conditional one shot similar to quantum but easier
now this post is finally on topic with the off-topicness people yammered on about
The title isn’t the problem. The problem is that god punch is a mediocre ability that isn’t game breaking or destroys the experience of the game completely, and it’s ok to have a one shot in the game, considering it’s literally the only one. Plus it’s just a glorified default, it’s not op
Why do you wanna remove a counter to Dos and Hivemind. The 2 streak abilities that can dominate servers in under 10 minutes if played right, Hivemind is stupidly easy to get a streak with, and dos is smooth sailing once you get 15, which isn't difficult. God punch counters both of these hard, so fuck no
???
What are you on abt bro
It IS op in a general sense just mostly bad people use it
the idea of such a easy 1 shot is boring and a horrible idea
And also a move that can 1 shot with a little less then a quarter of the map range?
realistically only ranged moves can counter gp but if the gp can dodge correctly not much can counter it
so it IS op but not many people using it is very good
it IS kinda game breaking since it’s a easy 1 shot and it DOES ruin gameplay sometimes since people third party and shi
The 1 shot map range ability is not very good, you literally have to be shackled near to die to it. What I mean by “not ruining gameplay” is that a singular godpunch isn’t going to ruin everyone’s experience, third partying is a whole different thing, sorry if I didn’t make myself clear.
Yea it’s a horrible idea that people payed for
So I guess they want that horrible idea
Kinda would be a scam to change what they payed for
A one shot should stay a one shot
Its not that op it depends on the user that is using it and theres alot of abilities that can counter gp like rock , cards , plasma , etc and you can even land a m1 combo on gp.
Yeah but the idea itself is op
like the idea of something that can 1 shot by punch is obv op
That’s the thing, if you can punch a player three times into the void without getting hit, you can basically(basically) beat an average gp user
but you dont wanna remove a counter for streak abilities right?
Average gpa user be under 10k punches and probably hasn't played the game for more than 24h
Kinda. I mean it’s good but it lacks in everything else. Even its attack range is not a game changer. If you use it, it doesn’t mean you win
Streaks can just avoid the gp
Yeah but it depends on the user if they can avoid falling to the void
Thats because Dos is a copy of gp with more speed.
Eh kinda but u gotta kill more than the gp first
But pretty much the same anyway
yeh
most streak abilities should be reworked imo
They alr were thou
and can we all agree gp needs a rework
Yes gp no skill
gimme a lil
Okeh
I’m working on the other shit ability wars has done
Like wat
since there’s like 10k things aw has messed up 💔
Like wat
Magnet unmastered
and a god lot of nerfs
¿?
And some other discord stuff
Make suggestion
like I posted a suggestion on put the ideas devs have in norm suggestions
Okeh
and make sure they’re perfect
I shall wait
Yus
