Gingerbread Mastery (could be used for an Army Mastery rework)

[hardy shell]

The more I thought about this, the more it made sense
This suggestion takes inspiration off games such as Industrialist and Noob Army Tycoon, you'll see why

This suggestion aims to turn Gingerbread into a tycoon-esk ability, rather than a domain ability
also i know dw, this can't become a mastery

Requirement

Kill 200 people in your domain
||(also let the gingerbread man do a little more damage, it is a little pitiful rn)||

and now onto the mastery itself

Mastery

The house is now a factory, you can spawn NPCs outside your gingerbread factory via a large door on the front. The inside is like your typical factory (or tycoon).
Inside the staff room, you have a PC, which has the Gingerweb, where you can manage your factory, from seeing the status of your machines to making your army of gingermen.

Now onto the actual mechanics :
When you start, you will have 5 Candy (candy is required to create gingerbread men), you can make a basic gingerbread man, which costs 5 candy each. You can get candy by either getting kills, or getting 1 candy a minute. If you run out of candy, your factory will be able to be entered and you will not gain any candy automatically. You have a skill-tree-like system to upgrade your factory, one section for your factory + income and another for units you would like to make. This is all in an app on the PC called Candy Tree. Another app lets you see how much candy you currently have, and allows you to buy perks for your troops, such as Resilience, giving the troop with it 50% more health. The final app allows you to check cameras around your factory and the status of your machines, which people can tamper with if they get into the factory, which is controlled by 2 gingermen.
Once you have a lot of income, you can automate the work so you can spend more time relaxing in luxury.

One more thing before I finish this segment, you can whitelist people who can enter the factory.

Gingerbread types

This section will involve stats and roles of gingermen

Ground units (Gingermen and Gingermages)

Basic Gingerbread Man

• Cost : 4 candy
• Role : Cannonfodder (typically found near the front)
• Stats : 40 health, 5 DMG, 14 walkspeed
• Limit : N/A

Gingerbread Man

• Cost : 10 Candy
• Role : Cannonfodder
• Stats : 80 health, 12 damage, 16 walkspeed
• Limit : N/A

Gingersquire

• Cost : 20 Candy
• Role : Damager/Tank
• Stats : 150 health, 25 damage, 14 walkspeed
• Limit : 5 Gingersquires

Gingerbrute, "The Big One"

• Cost : 150 Candy
• Role : Boss - Damager/Brutal-Tank
• Stats : 1000 health, 30 damage, 13 walkspeed (can throw gingerchunks, but deals 75 damage to itself)
• Limit : 1 "The Big One"

Basic Gingermage

• Cost : 7 Candy
• Role : Healer (typically behind frontlines)
• Stats : 25 health, heals 2 health a second (yes this does apply to the user too) for 1 target, 14 walkspeed
• Limit : 5 Gingermages

Basic Gingertank

• Cost : 12 Candy
• Role : Tank
• Stats : 120 health, 15 DMG, 12 walkspeed
• Limit : 2 Gingertanks

[stray stream]

w suggestion, was gonna cook up something like this myself

creative and has variety

• you have freedom

[hardy shell]

thank you :)

[stray stream]

how do you do a normal emoticon bro--

[hardy shell]

i did a doodle on paper to what i think the factory would look like

[stray stream]

nice

[hardy shell]

you want to go to your chat settings and turn emojis off

[stray stream]

ah alr

[hardy shell]

the convert one, not the top one

[stray stream]

ive done it

:D

YEAHH

[hardy shell]

^.^

[stray stream]

i feel like you should be able to buy different types of gingerbread men

like the mage and tank ones from the unmas

[hardy shell]

i will make that soon

[stray stream]

kk

[hardy shell]

its just that i'm lazy

and i spent my time making that

[stray stream]

lol

[hardy shell]

so i'ma get to work

ngl i want to think of stats for em and perks

since i did touch up on perks as an idea for them

[stray stream]

dont add too many features though

[hardy shell]

i'll try not to

[stray stream]

or it wont fit aw

personally

i would keep it as

• can increase candy gain by spending candy
• can buff gingermen

and the cameras andd stuff

[hardy shell]

thats true

i'll think about that

to be fair with the ideas i have, i have an idea for a farmer mastery

[stray stream]

yeah

[hardy shell]

and could probably come up with an internet mastery

[stray stream]

i hope they do another masery poll

i want mage

[hardy shell]

fair

[stray stream]

i like the creative abilities and mastery which have lots of variety

like mage engi internet etc

[hardy shell]

true

ngl i kinda hate how you can't send images here

since i would send an image of my design but no image perms here

[stray stream]

yeah

i better get on with tweaking my freeze mastery post hold up

[hardy shell]

ah alrighty

[languid isle]

Can you remove a type of like?

One of those 2

[hardy shell]

i fatfingered the enter key 😭

anyways back to making

[stray stream]

back

[hardy shell]

heres what i got so far (moving this up)

Gingerbread types

This section will involve stats and roles of gingermen

Ground units (Gingermen and Gingermages)

Basic Gingerbread Man

• Cost : 4 candy
• Role : Cannonfodder (typically found near the front)
• Stats : 40 health, 5 DMG, 14 walkspeed
• Limit : N/A

Gingerbread Man

• Cost : 10 Candy
• Role : Cannonfodder
• Stats : 80 health, 12 damage, 16 walkspeed
• Limit : N/A

Gingersquire

• Cost : 20 Candy
• Role : Damager/Tank
• Stats : 150 health, 25 damage, 14 walkspeed
• Limit : 5 Gingersquires

Gingerbrute, "The Big One"

• Cost : 150 Candy
• Role : Boss - Damager/Brutal-Tank
• Stats : 1000 health, 30 damage, 13 walkspeed (can throw gingerchunks, but deals 75 damage to itself)
• Limit : 1 "The Big One"

Basic Gingermage

• Cost : 7 Candy
• Role : Healer (typically behind frontlines)
• Stats : 25 health, heals 2 health a second (yes this does apply to the user too) for 1 target, 14 walkspeed
• Limit : 5 Gingermages

Basic Gingertank

• Cost : 12 Candy
• Role : Tank
• Stats : 120 health, 15 DMG, 12 walkspeed
• Limit : 2 Gingertanks

[stray stream]

cannonfodder 😭

[hardy shell]

the damage is so bad i concider it cannonfodder 😭

to be fair, you'll have more than one at most times

[stray stream]

there should be an option to upgrade it to gingersquire with a candy cane sword and candy wheel shield

[hardy shell]

thats actually a great name

i'ma use that

[stray stream]

ginger + squire = gingersquire

there should be an archer or boomerang one too

[meager rampart]

Good concept but event abilities don't get added

Masteries

[stray stream]

i thought that too tbh

hey maybe itll be the first--

[hardy shell]

i hope 🙏

[hardy shell]

also updated this

[stray stream]

please tell me it takes years to get 150 candy-

im not dealing with a miniboss

[hardy shell]

eh i'd say at the start, you get 2 candy a kill

seems fair

[stray stream]

phew

[hardy shell]

so to get 150, it would take a while

at max, you would only probs get 7 a kill

[stray stream]

i think the damage is fine on all of them but you would need to make them squishier

[hardy shell]

with a maxed out factory

[stray stream]

aight

[hardy shell]

i am assuming with gingersquire and "the big one" exclusively

[stray stream]

and also i feel like they should lose one of their limbs if you hit them like reg gingerbread

[stray stream]

yeah

[hardy shell]

yea, they would probs lose limbs at each 20% threshold unless they die that quick

[stray stream]

kk

btw can you send gingerbread army outside of factory??

or do they spawn outside

[hardy shell]

i mean if you have the shutter closed, then they gotta stay inside

[verbal falcon]

Gingerbread can’t get mastery just to let u know

[stray stream]

and will basic versions have regular versions too??

[hardy shell]

darn

[stray stream]

yo bro my magnet mas got taken away from me cuz of new obtainment

[hardy shell]

i'm assuming you mean the basic gingermen to the regular ones

since i will give gingermages 3 different versions

[verbal falcon]

Same I had to get mines again but it was easy

[hardy shell]

one for attack, one for defense and one for healing

[stray stream]

yeah and from basic gingermage to reg gingermage

[stray stream]

i cant be bothered bro

and magnet mas was my favourite

[verbal falcon]

Also I like this but where the abilties like e and Q also well yk R

[hardy shell]

mean the E can be for the gingerfactory spawn, the Q can be for the Gingerweb, and i guess the R could command the gingermen on where to go

i would've added it but we sure love discord's 2k character limit

[verbal falcon]

Yea fair the base e is the dimensions and I am pretty sure Q and R for it base is candy cane and gingerbread arm smash attack thing

[hardy shell]

to be fair tho i did make this because i like gingerbread as an ability, just wanted to make this for the fun of the game

[hardy shell]

it is

[verbal falcon]

Same I make suggestions for fun and u should keep this I might not be able get a mastery but it can get a rework

[hardy shell]

fairs

might finish this later because i wanna get every mastery currently obtainable

i have more than majority

[stray stream]

im missing magnet now

[verbal falcon]

I have them all

[hardy shell]

thats fair

[hardy jackal]

You know you could've just make R move to gingerbread like bring out one of any minions that still alive in the dimension to the overworld following you instead of Mastery to make it stronger

Minion summoning to the overworld soundes more reliable to me

[verbal falcon]

Yea that make sense it be more versatile

[hardy jackal]

It's basically like 10 shadows technique

[hardy shell]

thats true

[hardy jackal]

I say dimension isn't what not unreliable

But 60% of gingerbread ability lays inside of it

[hardy shell]

true

[verbal falcon]

Yea it rlly not tbh u have to go in it to rlly have defense but most players don’t even bother tryna enter their dimension which makes it useless

[hardy jackal]

But again gingerbread is a pretty bullshit trapping ability so it's still a stretch

Just make one of the houses in the gingerbread be in an exit to the overworld

Cause i'm not calling my friend just to beat the shit out of Gingerbread

While i'm trapped inside of it along with it's minions

Basically if you completely agrees with me you can just recreate a new suggestion for it

Both dimension and the overworld gingerbread has zero balance to each other

One absolutely garbage

and another absolutely bs

[hardy shell]

i mean i was just making this to throw my ideas into the ring

[hardy jackal]

Your idea basically turned gingerbread into Army ability except this version requires a bit more skill to use

Your idea could've works the best with Army mastery cause it is currently being hated

and for valid reasons

[hardy shell]

thats true

btw i haven't used army mastery in a while

is it still buggy?

[hardy jackal]

Sort of

Not as much anymore

[hardy shell]

ah makes sense

[hardy jackal]

Army is a full-time Minion based ability

Gingerbread is half versatile fighter and summon ability

improve the way it was supposed to originally designed

[hardy shell]

that makes sense

[hardy jackal]

Changing the ability's class completely would throw the conflictions to the community who mains it

[hardy shell]

i mean
ufo did somewhat the same thing as this and people love it for that

[hardy jackal]

Ufo pretty much is something you nearly can't invades, But since they can't do much, For at least against experienced players

[hardy shell]

it went from an offensive threat to a defensive army-type playstyle

[hardy jackal]

There wasn't much call outs for it untill you actually have to take one down

Considerately some god punch user gaining the benefits from this by teaming with one

making the ufo completely 100% impossible to invade

It's not balance but not problematic enough to causes annoying problems

Although it still can

[hardy shell]

idk if this counteracts this but i managed to invade a UFO using UFO

[verbal falcon]

Yea but most abilty can’t rlly invade it bc they can’t reach it

[hardy shell]

oh yea thats fair

i mean if i get the chance to invade a ufo i sure as hell would

its funny

to be fair might make a suggestion for mastery ideas

like farmer (which i would say could do with a mastery)

since rn its kinda neish

[verbal falcon]

Yea I can say sidegrade mastery are more interesting than direct upgrades mastery

[hardy shell]

thats true

[hardy shell]

dw i've been told 3 times

[muted mirage]

Then why did you still suggested it

[hardy shell]

didn't know beforehand

[hardy shell]

also wanted to throw my hat into the ring

[muted mirage]

Wdym

Off topic, but peak pfp of yours

[hardy shell]

idk
i mean could be a good thing for army mas rework if that ever happens

[hardy jackal]

Are you saying you break a stone with a another one?

[hardy shell]

oh thank you :)

[hardy shell]

👍

[hardy jackal]

Well i don't use ufo

[muted mirage]

You should add that to the tittle

Or simply rework this to fit it for Army

[muted mirage]

I see

[hardy shell]

Gingerbread Mastery (could be used for an Army Mastery rework)

[muted mirage]

Nice

[mental shale]

this is cool but can you bring this message and any other new info you added up to the top

so that it is not scattered throughout the post

[hardy shell]

i can try :)

[mental shale]

thanks

[hardy shell]

job done

i'ma go make a new suggestion

[hardy jackal]

Maybe i could block some ranged attacks with minions in the overworld

That would be Gingerbread's first only defensive move and also offensive

I'll probably might make suggestion of Gingerbread's minor rebalancing and R move later

[verbal falcon]

Goodluck with that I am currently making one as well for a mastery