#DoS Balance

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chilly crystal
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Yo, dos is pretty annoying once at 15 souls and has no reliable counters (aint no way Alchemist potion stacking was removed) so its time for a rebalance.

1st phase: starts at 5 souls and ends at 14 souls, speed is alright but punch strength will be nerfed slightly

2nd phase: you cannot see people's abilities until 3rd phase, punch strength nerfed and speed slightly nerfed

3rd phase: now you can see ppls abilities, not invincible during transition but you have regular walkspeed (20), damage nerfed and punch strength nerfed slightly

4th phase: current 3rd phase but no e ability, not a one shot

5th phase: speed nerfed, now a one shot

6th phase: Now you obtain the e ability

7th phase: time stone nerfed, power stone nerfed so knockback is less and aoe is also less, space stone cannot travel further than 50 studs, reality stones cooldown increased, soul stone immobilizes people for 2 seconds instead of 4, mind stone invincibility time reduced to 4 seconds

(If this gets added, reduce the operator quest soul req to 100)

tulip rapids
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cool but an overkill nerf ngl

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im a dos hater but nerfing that badly

chilly crystal
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How is it nerfed badly may I ask?

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Well yeah cuz its super unbalanced rn and has no reliable counters

rapid cliff
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nerf this bad would make the dos quest even harder than it already is

chilly crystal
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True but I could suggest the quest to be 100 souls after the nerf

rapid cliff
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yeah i think thatd be a good idea, the original 300 souls was way too much and even 200 is just annoying for everyone in the server

chilly crystal
deft elm
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Oo dos nerf

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I love dos nerfs

chilly crystal
carmine radish
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It relies fully on it's raw stats

chilly crystal
carmine radish
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Reduce stats and give it abilities in return

chilly crystal
chilly crystal
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Why give it abilities

ember pulsar
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"not invincible during transition" ok so u just capped dos at 35

chilly crystal
ember pulsar
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i hate dos with a passion but ts is not it

cunning nova
carmine radish
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Barely any counterplay

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Go ahead and fight a god punch with 4 times your walkspeed

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Using like pirate or something

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See how that goes

chilly crystal
cunning nova
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while I will agree on the fact that dos requires counterswapping it's far far from being impossible to counterplay

carmine radish
ember pulsar
carmine radish
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Also that

cunning nova
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and I'm not really up to date with newer abilities either but I have over 500 hours on dos so I think I have a valid say on this

carmine radish
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Removing iframes from the super slowing transition is

chilly crystal
carmine radish
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Not good

cunning nova
ember pulsar
cunning nova
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35 has TWO walkspeed for the entirety of its transition which takes 10+ seconds

chilly crystal
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Alr ill put normal walkspeed then

cunning nova
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and yeah 100 has the dodge ability

chilly crystal
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Isnt the regular walkspeed on aw 20?

ember pulsar
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also REDUCE THE OPERATOR QUEST TO 100???

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im crine

chilly crystal
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If no nerf i am not doing that

cunning nova
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also dos is already a pain to use because of how cheesy abilities have become why are we nerfing it further

chilly crystal
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Dos is frigging unbalanced

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1st phase is pretty balanced

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But

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2nd phase

ember pulsar
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so is like most new released abilities

cunning nova
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back in the day id agree with you

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while dos may have absurd stats later on there's nothing stopping you from preventing them getting to that point

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dos has SO many counters currently it's absurd

chilly crystal
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If u got 15 souls js avoid ur counters

cunning nova
harsh zealot
cunning nova
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15's passive is a more easily accessible leaderboard

chilly crystal
cunning nova
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any competent dos player will just take one gander at the left side of their screen and see their counters

ember pulsar
cunning nova
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right*

cunning nova
chilly crystal
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Which was the only reliable dos counter

cunning nova
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things like vampire are a low phase dos' worst nightmare

chilly crystal
ember pulsar
chilly crystal
cunning nova
chilly crystal
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Do yk how annoying and frustrating that is

ember pulsar
cunning nova
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okay??

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switch servers 😭

chilly crystal
ember pulsar
cunning nova
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that's not the ability's fault is it

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dos is fine as it is

ember pulsar
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also 90% of the 3100 has to be from some low punch newbies

cunning nova
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it's getting harder to use as more abilities are getting added

chilly crystal
fallen charm
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This is waaay too overkill tbh

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I dont even play dos

cunning nova
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I don't even play the game anymore and I know this is stupid

chilly crystal
fallen charm
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Rather than just butchering maybe try balancing the nerfs and delaying phases?

cunning nova
fallen charm
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Like phase 2 at 25 kills, phase 3 at 50 kills etc.

fallen charm
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Its wayy too hard to get that many souls to dominate the server

chilly crystal
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Alright then guess I'll edit this

cunning nova
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high risk high reward ability

ember pulsar
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the only issue with dos ive ever had is a teamer using a dimension ability

cunning nova
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can't kill them? switch servers

chilly crystal
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But the 7th phase nerfs gonna stay the same

cunning nova
fallen charm
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On average i cant get more than 4 souls because after that half the server the whole server starts targetting you

cunning nova
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shrimple

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makes camping MUCH harder

chilly crystal
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Alr guys chill ima rework this

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In a few hours

cunning nova
fallen charm
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How do i type cancelled text

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Like text w/ a line through it

ember pulsar
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~~

chilly crystal
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~dssa~

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Nah

fallen charm
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~half the server~

cunning nova
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two tildas

fallen charm
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It isnt working

ember pulsar
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i said ~~ not ~

chilly crystal
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-rt-

fallen charm
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Ok

chilly crystal
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~~yo

ember pulsar
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on both ends

chilly crystal
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yo

fallen charm
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ok

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Thanks

chilly crystal
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Ima change this but the nerfs on 7th phase will stay same

fallen charm
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On average i cant get more than 4 souls because after that half the server the whole server starts targetting you

fallen charm
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Ive only got there once in like 2022

chilly crystal
cunning nova
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300 is insanely annoying to use anyway I don't care about it

fallen charm
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For egg

chilly crystal
cunning nova
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genuinely WHY did they remove ability keybinds at 300 😭

eager bridge
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yo, can you reply to the post. im on mobile and i can't get up

fallen charm
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Operator didnt release in 2022

chilly crystal
cunning nova
eager bridge
chilly crystal
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EVERYONE DONT RESPOND IMA REWORK THIS THING IN A FEW HOURS

fallen charm
chilly crystal
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Im too lazy rn

cunning nova
eager bridge
fallen charm
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Blud is the 5th deadly sin

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Is this blud beelzebub

cunning nova
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☠️ ✌️

fallen charm
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I think blud might be caseoh asmodeus

cunning nova
eager bridge
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anyways, since i don't see what stats are changed in the exact amount, i won't leave my opinion until the rework

cunning nova
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3 walkspeed on every phase

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(otherwise you can't catch up and it's not fair)

ember pulsar
cunning nova
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dos hunter ability ☠️☠️

ember pulsar
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for every soul dos has, deal 300% more damage

chilly crystal
cunning nova
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bounty hunter mastery squared leaked

ember pulsar
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every second dos has a 10% chance to instantly die, multiplied by 3 for every soul dos has

chilly crystal
fallen charm
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Is bro judge holden

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Is bro the qu

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Is bro bill cipher

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Is bro austrian painter the lich

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Is bro voldemort

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Is bro tryna cull the dos users

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Is bro sukuna

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Is bro kenjaku

chilly crystal
fallen charm
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Its about sending a message

chilly crystal
fallen charm
fallen charm
eager bridge
fallen charm
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I doubt someone can survive for 300 years

carmine radish
fallen charm
fallen charm
eager bridge
clear summit
fallen charm
clear summit
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I'm sorry but this just sucks, alchemist can already counter a 15 soul dos with a speed pot

eager bridge
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potion stacking is GONE

clear summit
chilly crystal
clear summit
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a potent speed pot can already inf combo a 15 soul dos

fallen charm
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|| And ~45 when he died ||

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HOW DO I DO THE HIDDEN MESSAGE THING

chilly crystal
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Its ||

clear summit
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It has counters

chilly crystal
fallen charm
eager bridge
clear summit
chilly crystal
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EVERYONE DONT RESPOND IM GONNA REWORK THIS

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DO NOT RESPOND

clear summit
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dos does not need a nerf bro

chilly crystal
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Ik this is overkill but it does need a nerf

clear summit
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if you don't know how to use its counters/work with other people its a skill issue

chilly crystal
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Are u okay

eager bridge
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it actually needs a rework, only because it's a boring ass stat stick

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like what MMM said

clear summit
chilly crystal
clear summit
eager bridge
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reduce stats and add moves, that way, dos actually feels like a snowball-type ability even in later stages instead of just, mass genocide simulator

clear summit
fallen charm
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Unpopular take: Killstreak from SB is better than DoS

chilly crystal
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GUYS I LEGIT SAID IM GONNA REWORK THIS SO PLEASE SHUT UP

fallen charm
chilly crystal
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ye few hours

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Anything wrong?

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Be patient

fallen charm
clear summit
chilly crystal
fallen charm
chilly crystal
fallen charm
chilly crystal
fallen charm
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I have killed 3 dos users with over 100 kills

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DoS does NOT need a nerf

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It is already tedious enough to get operator

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We dont need to make it harder

chilly crystal
chilly crystal
fallen charm
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"oH bUt iN tHe sUgGeStIoN i SaId tO mAkE iT sO u nEeD 100 kIlLs oNlY"

chilly crystal
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Why yall acting like this is real

fallen charm
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And this is is js changing the subject

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Doesnt excuse how abominably despicable your suggestion is

clear summit
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it was way too op

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if you were solo you could kill any dos before its got the dodge ability

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if you were with friends you could kill any dos since strenght potions STACKED ON ABILITIES DAMAGE AND KNOCKBACK IF THEY WERE THROWABLE

clear summit
clear summit
deft elm
clear summit
carmine radish
clear summit
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are u playing on servers where the highest punches is 20k

fallen charm
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Early game is the hardest part btw

carmine radish
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Sure, the first like 15 kills can take some effort, if people are actually gping out of their way to keep the server playable that is

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But once you hit the 15 mark

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People can only wish

clear summit
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potent speed pots can still inf combo you and are pretty much as fast as you

carmine radish
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and your speed actually has 100% uptime

clear summit
clear summit
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and also cant they just.. potent speed pot + throwable slowness pot

carmine radish
clear summit
carmine radish
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with your nearly unmatched speed, it can't be that difficult

clear summit
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pretty much if you get hit once by them then youre dead

carmine radish
clear summit
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its a real strat since ive done this so many times before