Seriously, what a joke. What's the point of the Magnet Mastery?

[cunning ruin]

Are we serious…

Magnet mastery

Is like

One of the strongest/op masteries

@gleaming tulip

https://tenor.com/view/soggy-cat-shark-ssoggycat-the-looker-let's-take-a-look-gif-8586111290975382902

[dapper shuttle]

Yes magnet mastery is so good it just gets underestimated

[gleaming tulip]

I literally CANNOT have an opinion in it because I don't have it

Because sloppy obtainment

And magnet mas user are extinct

[cunning ruin]

Just because you have it doesn’t really mean you can’t have an opinion, footage is enough

I don’t own it

And even I know for a fact that magnet is like

An op mastery

[dapper shuttle]

Besides me 😎 I will always stand

[cunning ruin]

You’re not wrong

[gleaming tulip]

Ok cool now tell me how to deal with that shitty obtainment without alt/friend farming

[placid goblet]

Base CD: 1 >>> 2 seconds

Rock Cooldown 9 >>> 5
Rock Damage: 25 >>> 20
YOU CAN USE MAGNETS IF YOU USE THE ROCK.

Orbital Rocks Damage: > 7 >>> 10
Orbital Rocks Effect: Knockback > Ragdoll + Knockback

[dapper shuttle]

Fair enough and obtainment is bad

I can agree with that

[cunning ruin]

They just nerf the mastery and refuse to fix things

They also for some reason

Have SO MANY shadow nerfs and buffs

[dapper shuttle]

nothing but nerfs when it only needed fixes

[cunning ruin]

You LITERALLY have to play EVERY ability after an update to know what changed

They only state like 3 changes

The only reason barrier is better than that is because barrier mains rely on wall combo’s in their barrier

But you still aren’t wrong

[placid goblet]

Magnet doesn't even compare to UFO, Engineer, Bone, Alchemist, Bomb, or Cake masteries

[cunning ruin]

Atp just say every other mastery but magnet😭

[placid goblet]

I'm not saying Magnet didn't need nerfs, I'm saying there were TOO MANY nerfs, A LOT

[dapper shuttle]

well engineer pretty much kills anything in it path

[placid goblet]

A magnet without mastery can be superior to that

[cunning ruin]

Yeah that is definitely true, i will for sure agree on that

[placid goblet]

I SWEAR, orbital rocks are useless

[placid goblet]

You lose the magnets after throwing the stone.

The battery lasts a maximum of 7 seconds and takes 30 seconds to recharge.

And the way to obtain them isn't even naturally possible.

[cunning ruin]

I really hope the devs finish up production on skyrift soon so they can go back to working on AW and actually see what balance changes the community wants

Rather than nerf abilities that needed nerfs

And buff abilities that needed nerfs

[placid goblet]

That was going from top 1 mastery to top 10

[cunning ruin]

And do some random balancing to an ability that didn’t need it

[cunning ruin]

Yeah, I honestly forget how gutted magnet mastery was

[placid goblet]

You spend almost 2/5 of your energy creating that rock, then you smash it and it becomes useless

Oh, besides losing 2/5 of your resources to create that rock, you're also unable to use it again for 10 seconds. And your magnets haven't recharged during those 10 seconds

[dapper shuttle]

I knew I seen that avatar in game today before and yes orbiting rocks bad I don’t even bother using them

[viscid wave]

If I'm not mistaken, Magnet Mastery has an infinite combo, so you have perfect attack and defense

[placid goblet]

So far:

Pull and Push range nerfed twice.

Pull and Push strength nerfed.

Battery nerfed.

Colossial debuff added.

Damage reduced and Ragdoll removed from orbital rocks.

And the way to get it is still bad.

[placid goblet]

infinite combo?

[viscid wave]

It was an overpowered ability, but it received so many nerfs that it became useless

[placid goblet]

Magnet Mastery does not have an infinite combo

[viscid wave]

Almost infinite, I've already been hit by one, you just need to hit and pull

[placid goblet]

Before this had

[viscid wave]

Did they nerf them again?

[placid goblet]

@viscid wave

[viscid wave]

https://tenor.com/view/100-yard-stare-1000-yard-stare-stare-staring-staring-meme-gif-18404030142962634873

[placid goblet]

The orbital rocks used to deliver a one-hit kill combo, I think changing that is perfectly acceptable, however they nerfed them WAY too much

[placid goblet]

https://tenor.com/view/100-yard-stare-1000-yard-stare-stare-staring-staring-meme-gif-18404030142962634873

[cunning ruin]

https://tenor.com/view/epic-embed-fail-ryan-gosling-cereal-embed-failure-laugh-at-this-user-gif-20627924

[viscid wave]

[placid goblet]

Magnet Mastery was broken 5 months ago, and the Paladin Mastery update made it even more so

It went from being the BEST mastery in the game to one equivalent to a top 8 mastery

Army Mastery is better than magnet mastery, eventually the battery will run out, but the soldiers WON'T

[viscid wave]

When I think about getting master magnet, this happens

[placid goblet]

There were MANY nerfs, MANY indeed, there were unnecessary changes and because of that, it's bad now

[viscid wave]

Did they warn about the nerfs or was it a shadow nerf?

[placid goblet]

shadow nerf

In fact, they're pretending to be clueless to avoid fixing the bugs, Magnet Mastery literally doesn't work for anyone using Sit

[viscid wave]

[placid goblet]

I swear I'm not saying this because Magnet is one of my mains.

Barrier is better than Magnet Mastered.

The Unmastered version is practically equivalent or superior

[vivid wagon]

not anymore

[vivid wagon]

can you suggest something there is no suggestion here

[leaden remnant]

i agree

whats the point of this

this is jus a complaint lowk

[dapper shuttle]

It very op when u finally learn how do it properly I oneshotted guy with it

[vivid wagon]

can you show me how to do it i wanna abuse it

[dapper shuttle]

Yea I can make a video of how do it but it not easy do tho because they still hit u during it so u rlly have to keep up the rhythm during it and not mess up it took me long time to actually master the pull idc about rocks tbh at all

[vivid wagon]

thanks

[dapper shuttle]

U welcome bro now I just to need find a victim I wish i didn’t delete my old clips of it but let me search and see if I have one

[vivid wagon]

ok

[placid goblet]

Delet

I have no idea what to do for magnet mastery besides deleting it

[torpid lily]

it's never late to delete a suggestion

[placid goblet]

Is there a comparison between

Cake Mastery
Alchemist Mastery
UFO Mastery
Engineer Mastery
Army Mastery
Bomb Mastery
Bone Mastery

And magnet mastery

[placid goblet]

no

[placid goblet]

Even the Army Mastery can do more damage than the Magnet Mastery, it's simply bad

[gleaming tulip]

Cake mas is relatively unproblematic
Alch mas is one of the most problematic abilities
UFO mas is also one of the most problematic abilities
Engineer mas and army mas are very polarizing
Bomb mas is also relatively unproblematic
Bone mas is mildly inconvenient
And magnet mas is super overnerfed according to you

The closest comparison to all of the mentioned abilities would probably be army mas

[placid goblet]

Cake Mastery isn't problematic, is it? Do you know what it's like to have a giant cake coming towards you, dealing significant damage, and with a relatively high chance of you falling into another cake, all while having a low cooldown?

And to make it even better, it's not considered a projectile, so besides the natural counters, there's nothing that counters it, and that's not a problem?

[gleaming tulip]

Actually a 25 damage projectile that splits into 5 tiny hazards with a 10 second cooldown does sound bad

[placid goblet]

It's a projectile that doesn't count as a projectile, and isn't that problematic?

[gleaming tulip]

I am more concerned about the 25 damage thing that also splits into 5 hazards having only a 10 second cooldown

[noble zealot]

block the cake with an item

[placid goblet]

The problem with cake is that it's not considered a projectile

[noble zealot]

drop a gear in the path of the cake, and ride the momentum

[placid goblet]

but it's a projectile

[noble zealot]

bouqetes are very large

you can use them to parry cake

[gleaming tulip]

"It's tech bro"

[grave wedge]

0 suggestion

this is just a complaint'

you didn't even tell what the devs should do here

[placid goblet]

?

[placid goblet]

Uhm

[grave wedge]

add that to the suggestion itself then

you can't expect everyone to read the whole forum

[grave wedge]

I didn't get the mastery so no opinion

[torpid lily]

they all are op bullshit except for cake bomb, army ans bone

[placid goblet]

Bone Mastery is OP

[vivid wagon]

all of the masteries are op

[gleaming tulip]

Defender mastery slicer

[somber spear]

https://tenor.com/view/masive-skill-issue-skill-issue-yakudza-gif-14004060172467418456

[placid goblet]

"cosmos"