#Assasin Ability

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heavy ether
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Requirement 66K punches and the "Master of the shadows" badge
Badge obtaintment -- kill 15 people inside shadows or anywhere thats not getting hit by sunlight in a single life

Assasin Stats
-- 90 Health
-- 23 Walkspeed
--60 Jump power

Passives
-- If you stay still for 2 seconds inside shaodows you turn invisible ( any kind of movement except rotation and punching or using moves will get you out of invisiblity)
-- If you are invisible your next attack that hits someone will deal double the damage
--You will do 1.5x more damage from behind
-- Heal 2 times faster while invisible

--- You have 2 daggers on your hands that hit one by one (right left right left .... )

--Daggers--

-12 Damage
-40% Lifesteal (4.8)

E MOVE ( 12 Seconds cooldown )
Quickly Attack 4 times infront of you stunning person you hit during this time (0.4 seconds between every hit )
-6 Damage per attack or 24 damage in total

Q MOVE ( 14 Seconds Cooldown )
Increase your damage and speed stats for 9 Seconds
-Stats-
-Damage 12 to 15
-Speed 23 to 27

R MOVE (5 Second Cooldown)
-Teleport between shadows while invisible (can be used up to 4 times)
-Max teleportation distance 60 studs
-0.25 Second windup time on every use

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boost becuse yes

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boost becuse other one is yes

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boost becuse the other two is positive

polar willow
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The obtainment is weird and dumb

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Just like me :D

floral wraith
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I was slightly skeptical of this being AI generated due to the dashes but they’re not em or en dashes

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So im willing to read it now

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But uhh

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Maybe use other formatting methods?

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It looks bland with it all being the same size

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The obtainment is uhhh

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How do I say this

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It’s kind of niche

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As long as the final punch is landed in the shade/in a shadow, would it count?

humble quartz
heavy ether
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near anything ?

humble quartz
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Of the shadows

heavy ether
humble quartz
heavy ether
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they show closer if you play it with low graphics

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they disappear if you have low graphics and your pov is a lot

humble quartz
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Like at 2 graphics

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For example

humble quartz
heavy ether
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idk bro check for yourself

humble quartz
# heavy ether idk bro check for yourself

But either way, the ability seems a bit too cracked
15% extra speed, 20% extra M1 damage as well as almost 5 health lifesteal per hit, kn top of Q that further buffs your stats, E that can help dish out damage and R that allows you to teleport

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Speaking of R, does it have a range cap

heavy ether
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did you read all of it

humble quartz
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But like

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I feel like this ability would just be heavily map dependant

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You know what I mean?

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Actually what if there's a light source

potent kettle
heavy ether
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yes

potent kettle
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The passives are kinda crazy ngl

heavy ether
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yep

humble quartz
# heavy ether yes

Due to the whole shadow thing feeling weird, what if the passive was tied to sticking near walls

potent kettle
humble quartz
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I'll let maxi have a go at balancing first

potent kettle
potent kettle
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Go balance my boy

heavy ether
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it balanced

humble quartz
humble quartz
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To see if you have improved

potent kettle
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Now i cant

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Me reading

humble quartz
humble quartz
# heavy ether it balanced

Ok since maxi is a bit late, I will criticise instead

  • Walkspeed and lifesteal are way too high
  • The gimmick being built around actual shadows would probably make the ability janky and way too map dependant
  • E could do less total damage
  • Q should tone down the speed boost
  • R seems fine, but I'm a bit confused regarding the words "can be used up to 4 times", does it mean that it can store up to 4 charges like plasma R?
potent kettle
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K still will go read

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U interupted me

heavy ether
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40% lifesteal isnt a lot

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its 4.8hp

humble quartz
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Remind me, how much lifesteal does base hive have?

heavy ether
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check yourself bro

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instead of asking me for everything

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also hive isnt a "lifesteal" ability its supposed to do very little lifesteal

humble quartz
heavy ether
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alright

humble quartz
# heavy ether alright

Hive heals for 5 health per hit, but keep in mind, at easrly stages it can only rely on M1s, lifesteal and the walkspeed (and maybe the E after stage 3) while this ability has a lot of things at it's disposal

heavy ether
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yes

humble quartz
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A lifesteal of 4.8 is quite powerful actually

heavy ether
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you only have 90 hp

humble quartz
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2 hits and you heal a full punch worth of hp

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90 max hp barely changes things

heavy ether
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no?

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4.8 x 2 doesnt make 10

humble quartz
heavy ether
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yes

humble quartz
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Tone down the lifesteal a bit

heavy ether
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its not a lot when you have 90 hp

humble quartz
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To around 3

humble quartz
heavy ether
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hivemind has 5 lifesteal but also can gets around 140hp i think

humble quartz
heavy ether
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yes

humble quartz
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And can become stronger over time

heavy ether
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thats like the whole point of hivemind

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and E is close range attack

humble quartz
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The lifesteal on assasin is a bit overtuned

heavy ether
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no its not

humble quartz
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And needs to be reduced to a more reasonable amount, like 3 per hit

humble quartz
heavy ether
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yes

floral wraith
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also it's pretty difficult to work with actual shadows in game

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liike

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like*

humble quartz
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Ok gopd it would have been even worse otherwise

floral wraith
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relatively difficult

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and also

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that's why I asked

heavy ether
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i think there is a module in studio that checks for shadows

floral wraith
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The obtainment is pretty iffy

heavy ether
floral wraith
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since you can create your own shadows with objects

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like bb's trowel walls

heavy ether
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thats just using your envoirement

floral wraith
heavy ether
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yes it is

floral wraith
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alright

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well uhh

heavy ether
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but you do need both of you to be inside shadow

floral wraith
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you also stated area's that are not hit by sunlight so

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leading them into closed off areas

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for example

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the shack or cave or inventor's lab in the reimagined map

humble quartz
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What about artificial lighting

floral wraith
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would count as well

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correct?

floral wraith
heavy ether
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what artifgical lighting bro

floral wraith
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in the shack

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in the cave

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in the lab room

heavy ether
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sunlight

floral wraith
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in just about

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every room

floral wraith
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if you can use engineer then this is just

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kill 15 people

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or at least lure them to an enclosed area

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that immediately switches my opinion on the obtainment

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the passives are broken paired with this too😭

heavy ether
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you are basically saying any obtaintment is bad becuse you have to do certain actions to do with it

floral wraith
heavy ether
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yes you are

floral wraith
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it's almost likje

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like*

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you're making this

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incredibly easy

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by making this be able to be obtained UNDER LIGHTING

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which is the complete opposite

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of what the obtainment is supposed to be

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which is

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kill 15 players in shadows/area's not hit by sunlight

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you never state if artifical lighting counts

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and you just said it basically doesn't

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so that wither'

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withers the obtainment down

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to just

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kill 15 players

humble quartz
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Lure 15 players into the house and kill then like dexter morgan

floral wraith
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unless there is of course

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a Dexter ability

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which would just be

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stare at people while audio(only heard by you) plays

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before you uhhh

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idk

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like

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cut their throat open or something'

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but you can only do that

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to toxic players

humble quartz
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An ability built around staying in the ACTUAL MAP CREATED SHADOWS would probably be extremely map reliant

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Desert has like those goofy lookin pillars in the middle

heavy ether
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AND ?

floral wraith
humble quartz
floral wraith
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no

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correction

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classic is empty

heavy ether
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DO YOU WANT ALL ABILITIES TO BE DEFAULT ??

humble quartz
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Idk this just doesn't seem like it

floral wraith
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reimagined is a little more decorated

humble quartz
humble quartz
floral wraith
humble quartz
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I mean you had an attempt but

heavy ether
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its clearly map reliant for a reason

humble quartz
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This just isn't it

floral wraith
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if you want it to be at it's best potential

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you gotta hope there's enough bums willing to pick desert

humble quartz
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Overtuned lifesteal that you for some reason refuse to nerf combined with a potentially janky gimmick

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Hell can't I do hit and runs via R

heavy ether
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you cant

humble quartz
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Teleport close to the enemy, hit, teleport away

heavy ether
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you needto stay still for 2 seconds to go invisible

humble quartz
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Oh yeah

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My bad

heavy ether
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this is why you read

floral wraith
humble quartz
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But the lifesteal is still overtuned

floral wraith
heavy ether
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no it aint

forest lance
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I kind of liked the concept, but the way to obtain it is a bit strange since it's a "stealth" achievement; it should have something to do with the lemon

heavy ether
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"hold on let me get hit by the guy imfighting on purpose multiple times back to back so he can get his health back"

humble quartz
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You have boosted walkspeed and jump power to help you land hits easier though

heavy ether
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so?

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there are more powerfull abilities that lets you do more way more easily

humble quartz
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The scenario won't play out like you said

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More like

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An average day in london

heavy ether
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also 23 walkspeed and 60 jump pwoer isnt a lot

humble quartz
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Significant enough to make a difference

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Also Q further boosts your walkspeed and damage

heavy ether
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everything is significant enough to make a difference

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it stays for 9 seconds then you have to wait another 14 to use it again

humble quartz
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Also since Q boosts your damage and lifesteal scales with your M1 damage, that would mean lifesteal during Q is 15×0.4

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Or 6 per hit

heavy ether
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i typed 40% life steal becuse people ask how muchis "this certain amount"

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i clearly typed 4.8 next to it

floral wraith
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Oh I forgot to ask but, Wrathful, wanna see If what I have finished is good enough/ready to post?

humble quartz
floral wraith
heavy ether
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idt jump power scales like that

humble quartz
floral wraith
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yeah 50 jump power is like around 7 studs

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uh oh...

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with 2 hits you get a full M1 of health back and then some

humble quartz
heavy ether
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😔

humble quartz
floral wraith
heavy ether
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whatever you say unc

humble quartz
floral wraith
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it's called acting like ghaster smh

humble quartz
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For now

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Where is your idea

floral wraith
lament vine
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why is there no tdcr, i cant read 🫠

floral wraith
lament vine
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it was a joke duh

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now i have nothing left here not even reading at adding a reaction

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bye

lament vine
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bye now

subtle yew
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This ability in general just seems to have a very niche use

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you're basically limited to the cave if you actually want to kill someone

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5/10 suggestion. Cool concept, but sadly would never work in ability wars

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would also be annoying to code

heavy ether
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bump

potent kettle