Replace the Nuclear "Stability" passive.

[hollow hill]

Nuclear's stability passive is stupid. A mechanic that lets you get stronger overtime at the cost of max HP just straight up sucks, and it's only good when you're between 65% and 80% stability anyways, being the strongest you can get while having manageable health. One issue with this is: sometimes, you HAVE to take hits. Some abilities are practically unavoidable, such as Stardust's laser, dealing almost 50 damage, and those can very easily invalidate the ability entirely. Also, losing your survivability isn't a great reward for surviving a long time. This is why I'm suggesting a rework to the "Stability" passive.

Instead of being called "Stability," Nuclear's reworked passive is called "Unstable."

Unstable:
• Damage dealt to you and dealt from you is increased by 25% (Rounded up to the nearest 1 damage.)

While this would be a simple rework, it would make Nuclear much more reliable and able to survive if you play well instead of you having what is basically a 5 minute timer before you die.

[fading wagon]

I agree that it shouldn't decrease mhp to that extent but without any such reduction people can just wait out the timer and come out a juggernaut with speed

[signal mantle]

This is uhhhh

Hmmm

Let me

Think

So basicallya

A punch now does 12.5 dmg to you and to others

[fading wagon]

It should decrease and increase based on different things the user does
Punch: decrease 0.5%
Kill (0 health): decrease 5%
Kill (void): decrease 2%
Take a certain percentage of mhp as damage: increase 4%

And such

[signal mantle]

25% is a lot for multiple diff abilities

[hollow hill]

It's effectively making you even more of a glass cannon by making you take even more damage at the cost of dishing out more damage without the effective 5 minute maximum time per life with Nuclear as of now.

[hollow hill]

what

[uncut bolt]

nah just add a way to increase stability

[hollow hill]

Then people would be consistently at almost 100% so that wouldn't work either. (And if it couldn't keep you close to 100%, then that's basically just delaying the inevitable.)

[uncut bolt]

what\

howbout, if the Nuclear user is good

they get to control their stability

being able to increase it in bursts, or keep it low when they want to deal decent damage

cause I really like the glass cannon aspect of Nuclear

I think it makes the ability unique and fun

[hollow hill]

Honestly, that would also be a really cool idea. I personally moreso like my take on this still though, since a universal "You both dish out and take 25% more damage"

kinda feels better to use

more consistent, less complicated (Nuclear is already REALLY complicated)

[uncut bolt]

maybe using the Q decreases the stability by like 15% and landing a black flash could increase the stability by 25%

[uncut bolt]

yeah...

[uncut bolt]

but like, does this not feel super lame

[hollow hill]

That would add a unique management aspect, but since the black flash is somewhat situational, you would end up losing stability really fast.

[uncut bolt]

yeah but u could gain stability just ask quick!

maybe killing a player increases ur stability by 40%

being hit decreases stability by 5%

[hollow hill]

We already have DOT on punch and on Q hit, damage when nearby somebody, the black flash mechanicand holding to increase Q range. Thiis ability is LOADED.

[uncut bolt]

and maybe bump up the amount of stability gain from black flash to 30%

[uncut bolt]

bbbut i love the stability system

ts just so cool

[hollow hill]

I honestly think your idea is also REALLY good, since having to manage stability instead of it just lowering until you die from low max HP would be fun. Overall, both of our ideas are good in their own ways. Yours to add another level of complexity and mine to sort of "stabilize" one of the gimmicks with the ability in a way that makes thematic sense too.

[uncut bolt]

yeah

[hollow hill]

We also gotta be real, the current stability system sucks and is basically a 5 minute timer before some guy using Freeze kills you in one E ability and 2 punches.

[uncut bolt]

mhmmm yeah..

anyways i might soon actually make the stability rework thing an actual suggestion

[hollow hill]

Meanwhile something like 75 max HP would let you tank a reasonable amount too.

[hollow hill]

Would be neat, but you should also change it to lowering damage resistance as stability lowers since max HP changes that can be reversed are just strange.

Strange as in how you don't instantly regenerate that health and it feels weird to just have your progress towards killing someone get changed to be less of their healthbar when they land a black flash.

[uncut bolt]

ykw

ima give it healing too!

[hollow hill]

That's neat
(also you should make it so a bit is recovered on failed black flash for the Nuclear mains who can't time it that consistently)

[uncut bolt]

bbbut thats not very stable

[hollow hill]

also maybe a buff to Q if it removes so much stability

[uncut bolt]

nah ima make it give u a new effect:

"uranium stack"

it simply increases the rate in which your stability falls for like 10s

this can be stacked

[hollow hill]

true but limiting proper use of an ability behind being able to hit a timing kinda sucks, should atleast do something if you fail it.

[uncut bolt]

rn stability falls SUPER slowly

which kinda makes Nuclear slow feeling

[uncut bolt]

it does!

cause its still a fisting move

[hollow hill]

true

[uncut bolt]

anyways if they dont get the timing right

[hollow hill]

This should have some form of indicator too.

[uncut bolt]

they can simply kill players

[uncut bolt]

yeah

[hollow hill]

ok so yeah that seems like a really balanced rework to stability

[uncut bolt]

ok ill make the rates:

[wary echo]

idk i like stability passive i just think it shouldn't decrease max hp

or at least

dont decrease it as much

[hollow hill]

instantly most overpowered passive ingame then

[wary echo]

like maybe at 0% you have 40 or 50 hp

[wary echo]

nah not really

[hollow hill]

That wouldn't fix the issue, it would just delay it.

[hollow hill]

Also you should make Stability make you take up to 100% more damage as it goes down (1% per percentage of stability missing) instead of max health since it can recover

[uncut bolt]

Getting Punched --> +1 Uranium Stack (10s)
Throwing your arm --> +2 Uranium Stacks (10s)
Killing a player --> +50% stability & instantly healing total HP regained (takes 3s)
Landing black flash w E --> +35% stability & instantly healing total HP regained (takes 2s)

[wary echo]

fuck u mean 😭

[uncut bolt]

actually ill decrease the uranium stacks

[wary echo]

more health at 0% is more health at 0%

[hollow hill]

I feel like the penalty for throwing your arm should be reduced to 2 or something if the stacks don't have incredibly minor effects on their own, since it is kinda meant to be spammable but not easy to aim.

[uncut bolt]

i thought the same

[hollow hill]

ok cool

[uncut bolt]

also its totally easy to aim

cause i want stability to go down QUICK

[hollow hill]

yeah, harder to aim at long ranges though, which is outside of Nuclear's effective range.

[uncut bolt]

but I also want the user to gain stability reliably

if theyre skilled ofc

[hollow hill]

honestly you should still make untimed E add like 15% so it isn't completely useless if you miss

[uncut bolt]

tho its already a good attack if u dont land the black flash

[hollow hill]

because remember

as soon as an ability takes an ounce of skill to be decent (hi there mech) people consider it trash

also is it just me or are black flash timings also kinda inconsistent

[uncut bolt]

KRAMPUS LMAO

actually nobody thinks stuff like Combo and Brickbattler are trash tho

i guess it only applies to modern abilities (like krampus) 😭

[hollow hill]

combo has its dashes and brickbattler can be easily spammed, so both are decent without actual skill

[uncut bolt]

hm

so I guess Krampus would fit that bill

even if thats prolly decent without skill either

i never understood the krampus hate ong

[hollow hill]

same bruh, like bro it can deal 50 damage in 5 seconds.

[scarlet crest]

first step is to remove the radioactivity passive