Combo mastery: A possibly very fun idea

[true lion]

Let me see this

[haughty bloom]

It turns combo into Kazuya Mishima

Without the laser

[true lion]

Mmm oke

Also are u buffing the combos?

Knowback and damage?

[haughty bloom]

Did you read it or not

[true lion]

Reading and tezting

Keep reading

[haughty bloom]

Ah ok
I'll give you time to read it then

[left garnet]

Blackcat imma be so fr this shi is fire

And sounds possibke

I just hope the dash had at least 0.25 second cooldown

[haughty bloom]

Yeah it does

You can't cancel the dash with another dash

[true lion]

The requirement isnt that good tbh

[haughty bloom]

Yeah
I agree there

[left garnet]

Oh ok yeah then this is pretty balanced and add a whole new level to aw

[late oasis]

land 875 combos

?

[left garnet]

I will also say the new game aw devs are working on is very similar to what your thinking of blackcat

[true lion]

Or like 825, little nerf

[haughty bloom]

No
I main combo and pretty much every kill uses a combo
QQE or EQE for setup, EEE for damage, QQQ for knockback

[left garnet]

It’s like a deepwoken type game

[true lion]

Then nerf the obtainment

[left garnet]

Dead ahh?

[silver blaze]

yes

[left garnet]

Faaaaaa!

Idk what the update even is ngl

[haughty bloom]

Yeah
Maybe a 1v1 boss with high health that you have to combo down with specific combos depending on what stance it takes?

[silver blaze]

wrong sticker right context

bye

[left garnet]

K bye

[haughty bloom]

With forced dash dodging as well

[left garnet]

Bossfight are too repetitive and this combo mastery os really good

I think it would make the community happy but like

The game needs some player retention

[late oasis]

no q e q found

[haughty bloom]

I have not once used QEQ

I just turn to the ledge and use QQQ

[true lion]

I just love spam qqq or eee

[left garnet]

Bro what do u guys even do on combo dash and ram into people time and wa bam?

[haughty bloom]

?

[left garnet]

That ain’t a combo main for ya

[haughty bloom]

Yeah

[true lion]

I am not combo main, me barrier main

[late oasis]

so if you keystroke you automatically mastered combo

[true lion]

But combo is pretty good

[left garnet]

Oh yoru toxic I’m jk barrier wall combos are pretty sick ngl

[haughty bloom]

It is

0td potential

[left garnet]

Combo is really good once you get used to the dashes

And just using e mid dash into combos

It’s guranteed

[true lion]

I just got a heart attack from reading you re toxic

For a second

[late oasis]

i just wish dashes was a R ability

[left garnet]

Yo what. You good bro?

[true lion]

Bro me man not baby

[late oasis]

im too used to Q being the kick

[true lion]

Well i am a cat tho

[haughty bloom]

Best save the dashes for punch chains
The e can be landed after a single punch into knockdown for free

[left garnet]

Nah when you hit e on combo it’s starts the chain where you can go into a qeq combo I know u know that but r being a dash would make combo into a versatile at style as dashing mid combo is insane

[true lion]

Also, i wpuld think the damage or knowback buff should be specified

[left garnet]

True

[haughty bloom]

Yeah
I ran out of characters to specify that

[left garnet]

Never knew that, and sounds broken as fu

[haughty bloom]

It is

This is how I get most of my 0tds

[left garnet]

Do u play competitive aw?

[haughty bloom]

Punch->Combo starter QEE or EQE-punch to ledge and use dashes when necessary to catch up

[haughty bloom]

No
I didn't know there was one

[true lion]

My emoji true??

[left garnet]

It’s in the competive section in the discord

Nah your text is true

But the face speaks the words is true

[left garnet]

Yeah

[haughty bloom]

I'll look into it when it's not 1 in the morning
It seems slightly more suited for me

I hope this is considered
Adding either a grab or a parry would make this ability cinema

[left garnet]

Ok good luck then the competitive scene js a lot of great players

[left garnet]

Brother that’s legit just a dark souls charcater

And very broken

[haughty bloom]

A parry is a bit too much in hindsight
Midas puts that thing to use

[left garnet]

Yeah the Midas counter is ahem free stun

And very broken it legit gives Midas a free combo

[proud kite]

Combo is already overpowered

[haughty bloom]

It is, I know

[left garnet]

Who said a mastery was gonna not be added tho

[haughty bloom]

Zero-to-deaths

[proud kite]

one simple combo dealing half hp

[haughty bloom]

But combo is really fun at the same time

[left garnet]

How about one combo dealing 75hp

[proud kite]

why tho

[haughty bloom]

Half HP is a sign of a bad user
You can get more than that easily

[proud kite]

“Simple combo”

pls stfu

also

Most masteries are meant to be buffs or change in styles

[left garnet]

Makes the game a more skill based game, and add more possibilities about what aw can add in the future like that ability with a black flash on nuclear already allows aw to rework some abilities in the past to have variants too. And just adding moves that can lead into a follow up from long range is cinema

[haughty bloom]

Punch->Combo starter QEE or EQE-punch to ledge and use dashes when necessary to catch up
This is something I do constantly with great effect

[left garnet]

It just allows aw to normalize new features, and makes the game more creative

[haughty bloom]

More skill expression, exactly

[proud kite]

I will say this combo ain’t skilled

[proud kite]

I don’t think I asked but k

[haughty bloom]

Buddy have you tried extending off EQE or EEE

[proud kite]

Buddy have I tried even asking for a combo?

[true lion]

Then say the damage in comments and me being the first one and I will edit the message

[left garnet]

I guess so, but combo itself is still hard to master, and a mastery just fun. It’s not guranteed of course, but I will say this idea is very cool, and allows aw to probably branch off of these ideas

[proud kite]

Like I don’t actually gaf

[left garnet]

K then leave star

Go on with your day

[true lion]

Nah let him breath his opinion

[haughty bloom]

I don't know the current damage values
They're not listed on the wiki, and I don't want them to be too high

[left garnet]

He will breath his last breath to just talk smack?

Oh well

[proud kite]

The actual fuck is that obtainment

[true lion]

He said he is fixing st4r

Chill

[proud kite]

1000 kills bro?

[left garnet]

Chat is this ragebait?

[haughty bloom]

I don't know what to do with it right now

[proud kite]

Where are the dmgs

[haughty bloom]

I'm not a dev and a bossfight would be repetitive it seems

[true lion]

He said he ran out of space

[left garnet]

Also the damage values arent shown on wiki so he cnat really base it off on anything

[true lion]

Black cat!! Do tjis

[haughty bloom]

The current damage isn't even on the wiki
How am I supposed to scale them up when I don't know the base

[left garnet]

Yo BladkCat you getting rage baited

[true lion]

Say 5% more like that

[left garnet]

Don’t lose your cool gang

[true lion]

Wdym rage baited

[proud kite]

then how in gods name am i supposed to know how good this is?

[proud kite]

And apparently you Alr know bc you know combos with 75 dmg or 50 dmg

[haughty bloom]

Look at the current approximate values and think a little higher

[proud kite]

k

[true lion]

He is true tho

[left garnet]

Satr is disrespecting blackcat and calling out the wrongs in BlackCats suggestion and just saying when did he dven sk for any info besides everything else acting like a prick

This is ragebait

[proud kite]

what

so wait so wait

[true lion]

What

[proud kite]

Critiquing is being a prick?

[true lion]

The

Actual

Happines u said

[haughty bloom]

This is stupidity
If you know where to get damage values of the base game, let me know
Then I can make the changes for damage values

[proud kite]

:/

[true lion]

Dude

Chat gpt [lol]

[proud kite]

It’s your suggestion dude

[true lion]

Or just say %

[left garnet]

Black cat hes just acting a fool it’s ok dude

Hes legit baiting now

[proud kite]

dude what

[true lion]

No he s not

I know him

He good

[proud kite]

Alr so from what I can tell from this suggestion is that

[haughty bloom]

Is there a way to get the damage values for abilities?
If there is, I'll go looking right now

[proud kite]

this is buffed combo

[true lion]

Um yea

[left garnet]

Black cat chill. One minute of silence breath gang

[proud kite]

which isn’t needed at all

[proud kite]

You could prob just go in game and test

and make a easy estimate

[true lion]

1 second*

[proud kite]

but rn that isn’t needed

as this completely seems like a combo buff which in no way is needed

[true lion]

Guys chat gpt!

[haughty bloom]

It's not needed, but it's still fun

[proud kite]

That’s just rage bait

[haughty bloom]

I wrote this myself

[left garnet]

Maxi I’m the chat your my gpt

[true lion]

Nah

[proud kite]

yeah but it would cause chaos

[true lion]

Ok sharky with my ai

[left garnet]

Nah I’m writing that down

[proud kite]

like your buffing abilities that’s Alr good with a stupidly high obtainment

overall you didn’t cook on this

[haughty bloom]

It's a 1v1 based ability overall
It'll never reach god punch levels

[proud kite]

And it clears hp in seconds

And now there’s just a buff when it needs a nerf

also the moves can hit multiple people at once

So idk if it’s only 1v1

[haughty bloom]

It does
But it requires knowledge in order to do so, and it rewards you for it

[proud kite]

It can wipe crowds

[left garnet]

I mean the people do have to be really close tho

[proud kite]

EEE, over 50 dmg

[haughty bloom]

The ones that don't combo
Try extending off QQE

[proud kite]

very complex

[haughty bloom]

You don't start combos with EEE

[proud kite]

it’s a easy combo that like everyone knows and deals 50 dmg

and you say combo is hard to use?

Or skilled?

[haughty bloom]

But you need more knowledge to get actual 0tds

[proud kite]

just look it up

look up any combo that one shots or sum and then learn it in the next 1 minute

combo is one of the easiest abilities to use

[haughty bloom]

I have the wiki open
Not a single combo guide, and you always have to decide whether you need to dash to extend a string or not

[left garnet]

S4TR imma be honest combo mastery is just a fun idea that black cat I know he can refine it and tune it to fit the game as he was a dev, and these revisions are very important, but he just added this and you making yourself sound like a ragebaiter. But it in all honesty give blackcat credit where it’s due he had the balls to add this knowing he would get criticized and is defending his shi

[proud kite]

no

there isn’t much credit I can give honestly

besides maybe being high effort?

But like

That’s average for most people

[haughty bloom]

I want the opportunity to express yourself in this game
To not be an AOE bot, and punish 1v1 interaction
This is a specialised 1v1 ability that gets interrupted by a single third partier

[left garnet]

Some people don’t even post on suggestions bro I can’t even lie not many do

[proud kite]

Also that last part where he deserves credit for making the suggestion is dumb

your gonna get criticized I’m sorry

[left garnet]

Have you made a suggestion

[haughty bloom]

If this gets added, combo always has counterplay
Projectiles

[proud kite]

Yes

Many

[left garnet]

K let me see then

[haughty bloom]

You have no range and no projectile yourself

[proud kite]

ight

[left garnet]

Name em

[proud kite]

Lemme get the links

[left garnet]

Blackcat don’t read this gtw imma just read the links

You don’t need to waste your time ganh

[haughty bloom]

This is not an argument I expected to have at 1:15 in the morning

[left garnet]

I’m up at 11:16am

Bro I’m down

[haughty bloom]

Alright then
Let's look at the very creative and fun to use suggestions this guy surely has ready for us

[proud kite]

https://discord.com/channels/922921165373202463/1464476718323732601

https://discord.com/channels/922921165373202463/1463746517608300781

https://discord.com/channels/922921165373202463/1461585169185112129

https://discord.com/channels/922921165373202463/1457928652804198558 (this was my first suggestion btw)

https://discord.com/channels/922921165373202463/1453627054041071668

I have a bit more but these are some of my better ones

[left garnet]

Hey BlackCat let the man show his work no need to down him like that gang

[proud kite]

I don’t make suggestions too often bc I spend time making them

And I have a bunch of scrapped suggestions

Like https://discord.com/channels/922921165373202463/1458541655593582612

I scrapped that one

[haughty bloom]

Ok
My apologies S4AR

[proud kite]

The galaxy one is prob the best one

or pirate mastery

both are cool

or ghoul

or valentine idk

your choice

I sense criticism from how long your typing

[left garnet]

I legit just finished reading Galaxy and Hoky shiiiii!

What the flip that was peak

[proud kite]

Fr?

[left garnet]

Nah fr he added info you need made a bit of lore sick mastery, and a cool rework

[haughty bloom]

I can see that we have a big difference in how we design these because of the different suggestion types we made
You try to create fairly balanced, unique ideas, and I respect that for making new abilities-it's good for that
I try to make ideas reach their fullest potential, which tends to work for masteries but makes broken base abilities
I do see where you're coming from, so I might keep the damage largely unchanged

[proud kite]

Yay : D

[left garnet]

It’s just very complex, and holy shi tho it was sick

[proud kite]

oki

[haughty bloom]

Those are genuninely good ability suggestions

[left garnet]

Nah fr tho Props to S4TR those were genuinely good and if they all are similar to galaxy then Duam they must be insane

I like the lore the obtainment are fair well ballanced

[proud kite]

Gl on your next suggestions, ik i can be harsh sometimes

[haughty bloom]

I'm sorry for doubting you
Those are great in terms of unique ability suggestions

[proud kite]

I’m just very harsh critic

[haughty bloom]

I do hope you see my point though that I'm not suggesting a new ability
I'm suggesting a mastery-a fulfilling of potential, and this would make combo an even smoother death machine
Combo's rework made it into something great, and I want it to be as good as it can be while being healthy

[haughty bloom]

I can see that

[proud kite]

lol

[left garnet]

Black cat I think this way of suggestions Probaly allows the devs to be more free in picking how the ability works to be more balanced for them

Your way byw

Which I can see happening if they ever decide to add this which I think would work as your suggestion is a mastery, and the aw devs being able to tweak it would allow them to make it as balanced as possible, but being still a broken mastery in a way I think is how they would do it.

Just my thoughts as your suggestion does allow for more versatility on the aw devs team

[haughty bloom]

At the end of the day, the devs choose the numbers
If something like this gets through, they'll pick the damage output
The idea of the r move for me was to add in another designated combo finisher to use once you used E to set up the punch string, and all I want at the end of the day is for combo to keep feeling as smooth as it is

Also, to stop people from falling out of combo E

[left garnet]

I guess that makes sense just to make combo feel smoother, and feel like a flowing ability rather than clunky combos that don’t work

So yoru like a combo assassin

[haughty bloom]

Pretty much
I sit around, look around and take every hit personally unless they're something like paladin which is pretty annoying for combo to deal with

[left garnet]

lol I get what u mean chasing down everyone who even looks at me or throws a projectile in my face I’m Running hands

That’s very relatable man

[haughty bloom]

Sometimes I go out on a killing spree then the server collectively decides that I'm not fun to deal with
Which is fair

[left garnet]

Legit like noobs fighting a pro gp user

But average players up against a combo god

I think this has lead us to discover a hidden gem suggestor and a new way that you see your suggestions. I personally wish you the best of luck as this is gonna be a journey if this gets added.

[haughty bloom]

You kind of fall flat once there's more than one person to kill

[left garnet]

I will say getting jumped as a combo user is not fun, but I was a vampire main and I got jumped by a freeze and custom user always killing the freeeze back in my prime hehehehe but yeah I get what u mean, but I did only get jumped once

[haughty bloom]

I'll see if I can make a more balanced version of this
I keep the dashes toned down by cutting down their distance
Next time I'll go into detail for each of the combos if I have enough ideas

[opal bluff]

yes please bro i love combo

btw can the player punch you while their in ur combo

[left garnet]

No too much damage

[haughty bloom]

No
They can't already for base combo

[left garnet]

I mean they do get stunned

[opal bluff]

somtimes they can if they jump but nice

[left garnet]

K you guys can talk now before I become an old man once I’m done talking

[opal bluff]

urahhhhh

[haughty bloom]

Understood
I might keep the buffs strictly to knockback with the exceptions of the niche ones such as QEQ and EQQ

[left garnet]

Punching mid combos would be a ton of damage just what I was commenting on

I think the moves mid combo should only do damage. But if you could punch mid combo to cancel a combo Thast a different story

[haughty bloom]

You can't cancel combos I'd say

You need a finisher or you end up at frame disadvantage

[left garnet]

I mean it would be sick if you could cancel a combo and start off a combo in the middle of a combo move and adding on to that combo move like qeq, but you start off a combo with the e in qeq and can mix it

Oh I didn’t think like game mechanics like that

[haughty bloom]

That opens up a whole can of worms for damage
Combo's playstyle right now is carrying people off the edge with punch chains from QEE or EQE, the damage stuff is a last resort kind of thing I think
EEE+punch does deal like 50 damage but you've got to land that punch first then expend combo, adding a damage-based 0td might be too much

[left garnet]

Gotcha I do see what u mean as the damage would go from like a 3 step combo into possibly like 7 steps

[haughty bloom]

The damage would make it so combo doesn't need situational awareness anymore

[left garnet]

True this was just an idea tho, but possibly canceling combos in general should be added as that’s just a good feature to have incase your getting jumped and low

[haughty bloom]

You have AOE attacks as a get-off-me already
EQQ has a big hitbox that doesn't lead to follow-ups and EQE has a smaller one that sometimes does

[left garnet]

Oh so combo can kind of counter teamers if they double jump on top of you disregarding if one has a projectile in their kit

Ok I get why combo is good against groups now a bit

[haughty bloom]

Kind of
Combo on hit has an ability cooldown of 12 seconds and you can interrupt the combo if you're a second player watching your friend get beaten up
Just hit the combo player before the finisher comes out

This is where EEE comes in handy
Extreme burst damage to get someone who's at like half health off you for a bit

[left garnet]

Ooooooooo so combo is very situational and has good damage in 1v1 situations, but 2v1 he struggles

He struggles in 2v1 as his combos can get canceled

He does high burst damage tho, and can push crowds off him

I seee

[haughty bloom]

Yeah
1v1 god that requires potentially just one punch to kill, has significant weaknesses in 2+v1

[left garnet]

Maybe they should lower combos hp, but give him a movement speed then making him more of a glass cannon like in Jjs how they do to yuji itadori and megumi as they are pretty broken?

[haughty bloom]

Still has 1v1 weaknesses but the fact that you can kill god punch players like any other enemy speaks for itself

[haughty bloom]

Movement speed would be devastating

[left garnet]

I know Thast why lowering his hp would be a good nerf

[mossy stirrup]

1k kills is uhhh, a LOT but I do like the suggestion

[haughty bloom]

It would remove the need to dash between punches in extended strings, letting you chain more hits

[left garnet]

Oh shi your right just down right lower his hp

[left garnet]

1k kills oh please I have killed 7 million players in 2 million years 1m player died every 3 years

[mossy stirrup]

Why not make it something like “perform a combo on a player and follow up with a dash punch x amount of times” as to help teach the player the general play style of combo

[haughty bloom]

It's why losing pack-a-punch was such a big deal for us

[left garnet]

Wait a quest line

He might be cooking

[mossy stirrup]

What in the world is this…

[left garnet]

It’s call CAP!

[haughty bloom]

No damage orb for downright disgusting amounts of damage, no speed orb for practically free kills, no regen orb for long-term survivabilty

[mossy stirrup]

“Quest line” I hope you know that im just suggesting a better obtainment that could help teach the player to play combo, which is what mastering an ability does

[left garnet]

Oh so that’s why pack a punch was deleted

[left garnet]

I know but adding an obtainment where the players learn combo as they grind for the mastery is pretty much a quest line

You have to multiple steps to get the obtainment a quest line

[mossy stirrup]

Dude… that’s literally half of the mastery obtainments😭

No, the only step would be combo & follow up

[left garnet]

Nah masteries/ some of them just require kills

[mossy stirrup]

That’s not exactly a quest line

[mossy stirrup]

I said half🤦

[left garnet]

Oh

Uhm

Quest Line?

[mossy stirrup]

[left garnet]

This after the silence hilarious LOL!

[haughty bloom]

Playing combo does already force you to milk your E as much as you can, so a kill grind would only incentivise it slightly
12 second cooldown on hit kind of makes you learn the throws

[left garnet]

Very true, but it would just be more fun to force the players to try out other combos than just soamming one combo

[mossy stirrup]

There was no silence…

[haughty bloom]

What would a theoretical quest line be like for combo?

[true lion]

Didnt know about valentines ability

[left garnet]

It was silent for only a mere moment

[haughty bloom]

That already happens
You do have to know at least half of them to get good with combo

[mossy stirrup]

I responded nearly instantly😭

[left garnet]

Wait my birthday is ten days before vanlentines day chat ahem.
.
…..

[true lion]

Tbh buffs to the qqe or like these dont really need tbh.

[mossy stirrup]

No freak you

[mossy stirrup]

There should be changes to have certain effects for each combo as to promote use of each one

Like

There already are differences with them

[true lion]

But it is only buff to them

[mossy stirrup]

But all they do is effect where the ragdolled opponent moves

[haughty bloom]

They all fit into archetypes already

[left garnet]

Bleed, more knockback, fire damage, a sound affect, a finisher,

[mossy stirrup]

No🤦

Fire has nothing to do with bare hands😭

[haughty bloom]

EEE, EQE and QEE fall into higher damage/combo starter most of the time
QQQ, QEQ and EQQ are knockback moves
QQE and EQQ are designated get-off-me tools

[left garnet]

I know but like uh the fire ball in a fighter game I saw would be sick the guy was a martial artist throwing a fire ball

[haughty bloom]

Ryu

[left garnet]

But why not add finishers

[haughty bloom]

Those are the finishers

[left garnet]

Ah orob his name I’m very uncultured

[mossy stirrup]

No, all we can change is add effects like ofc bleeding, stagger, and maybe blindness

A different effect for each attack

[left garnet]

No like the black flash finisher on nuclear for getting kills leading into an animation or cool effect

[haughty bloom]

The animation wouldn't do much, would it?
Rage's effects get in the way, in my opinion and I don't want it much on combo
If there was one, I'd put it on the theoretical R grab

[left garnet]

Nah like the breakdancing combo if you kill someone you do a baxk flip and yet them

[proud kite]

lol

[left garnet]

Or also the eee punches leading into a saitama punch

Or even just the qqq kicks leading into high knockback finisher

[haughty bloom]

Mate they already do

That's the point of QQQ

[left garnet]

Oh I’m not a combo main so I’m not every well knowledgeable

[haughty bloom]

Ah ok
Sorry

[left garnet]

Nah your good I just don’t play aw that much anymore this just intrigued me

[mossy stirrup]

I am so I can gladly say, having finishers is kind of pointless unless they reward with

Besides the fact that they’re awesome lookinh

Looking*

[left garnet]

Like berserker is a great representation

He gives speed boost, and strength boost for kills and also hitting your moevs

[haughty bloom]

Berserker is berserker
Combo is a smooth, fluid, single target killer

Berserker is a crowd decimator

[left garnet]

Very true

Berserker is just Berserking alll over everybody

[mossy stirrup]

Yeah berserker is just braindead and it’s just itself

[haughty bloom]

They have their own identities

[mossy stirrup]

Yeah

[left garnet]

True ok so for combo I was thinking about I frames in yoru combos, but it do3 make it a bit broken just imagine not dying to a Gp nuke

[haughty bloom]

Yeah
Being intangible during E would be nice for the combo player but it shores up a seemingly intended weakness on the ability

[left garnet]

I have a genius plan. What if we made combo mastery a whole new style of game play for combo

This combo is fast agile and does good dmage

So why not the mastery be a mroe defensive style

With parries, and still combos, but less damage, and less movemnt

[haughty bloom]

That would be a whole new abilty at that point

[left garnet]

I know but it would allow you to have differnet play styles

Like gravity mastery

From a gravity to gojo

[haughty bloom]

You play combo for combo, not ryu street fighter
That as a new ability would be nice

[left garnet]

Not combo mastery being ryu but being more defensive

[haughty bloom]

Counterpoint:
Grav mastery does what gravity always did
Disrupt

[left garnet]

Very true

So the concept has to make the ability the same as it always did but better Duam

I thought it would be sick tho

[haughty bloom]

Don't forget, the ability is called combo, not fighter
Combo
It's meant to be an agressive ability
Having fighter as an ability would be cool, I agree but not on combo

[left garnet]

Ok

Yeah I guess another cool idea what if combo had a dodge ability like his dash has a wind up of iframes for only a couple of milliseconds

I don’t think has dash has I frames

[haughty bloom]

That's part of the initial suggestion

[left garnet]

Oh

Ok last idea here then what if combo was able to switch stances in his ability from an offensive style like base combo into a defensive style merging the two into combo mastery as that allows him to be aggresive and more versatile giving him the combo feel still, but allowing him more possibilities, and splitting them like two personalities

I know offensive is his name, but defense is another way of the game

[haughty bloom]

Defensive just feels like it doesn't fit combo unfortunately
I really like your idea, but on another ability would be better
Combo is an agressive monster, and becoming slow and defensive doesn't quite fit
A defensive figher would be best left to a new ability I'd say

[left garnet]

Ah well I guess that would be fun to see a new ability come out as a defensive fighter with a parry, and a whole new system to its ability

But I should go now good luck on your mastery

[haughty bloom]

Yeah, it would
Thanks for the luck, and goodbye

[mossy stirrup]

Combo

But it’s

Uhhh

What’s his bame

Name*

[haughty bloom]

?

[mossy stirrup]

Oh yeah

Kazuya

But more specifically

The ssbu version

So he has like

800 moves

So

Combo

But Kazuya

Awesome nightmare for the dev’s to code

[haughty bloom]

Combo was already kind of SSBU Kazuya but with less intangibility
Situational 0tds
Low range
8 total attacks and a dash

[mossy stirrup]

It wasn’t ENOUGH like SSBU Kazuya

I want to see A COMBO USER

PULLING MOVES

OUT OF THE VOID

I WANT TO SEE A COMBO USER USE THE MOST UNKNOWN MOVES TO MAN, COMPLETELY OBLITERATING THE OPPONENT WITH A SIMPLE

[haughty bloom]

That's called god punch

[mossy stirrup]

No

I want

Gp

But actually good

[haughty bloom]

GP is good

[mossy stirrup]

Requiring you to have 200 inputs in the span of 3 seconds to use the move

[haughty bloom]

I should say annoying, not good

[mossy stirrup]

Exactly

[haughty bloom]

Combo is good, but GP is better because you can't be interrupted mid 10 second string

[haughty bloom]

You try getting interrupted mid combo string then jumped by a third of the server as a 1v1 ability then you start to appreciate group ko potential

[mossy stirrup]

Gp is just bad