why would you self react this
#Return mastery
valid anchor
and how do people disapoint me so much nowadays
wait a second
didnt you delete this
twice??
i have the evidence @sour hedge you already made the same suggestion twice
sour hedge
i have the evidence <@1026585421481779302> you already made the same suggestion...
I know
sour hedge
I had to delete my previous return mastery because I wanted to link it with my return rework suggestion but apparently linking it delete the suggestion
smoky plinth
What in the WORLD are you pinging us for dude
sour hedge
So yes basically I ruined a perfectly good suggestion
smoky plinth
sour hedge
Why is he pinging everyone now
valid anchor
Why is he pinging everyone now
smoky plinth
Idkmypsuedo’s answer is valid for everything but the self upvote
smoky plinth
That’s seen as like, begger behaviour
valid anchor
Gotta start somewhere
gotta start somewhere and stop there
smoky plinth
gotta start somewhere and stop there
I have NO CLUE who YOU are
So maybe next time
Think before you ping
sour hedge
Disliking just because I self like which everyone else does is kinda weird
smoky plinth
And don’t be petty
sour hedge
But I've seen worst
smoky plinth
Disliking just because I self like which everyone else does is kinda weird
Not everyone else does but still valid
At least maybe it’d get some attention
valid anchor
I have NO CLUE who YOU are
sometimes you dont have to know people i guess
sour hedge
Ye it just sad I lost the 16 upvotes it previously had
valid anchor
Think before you ping
i already thought enough before i even looked at past suggestions
smoky plinth
Ye it just sad I lost the 16 upvotes it previously had
How do you even accidentally delete it twice?😭
Oh wait nevermind
sour hedge
First time it was fully on purpose there was like 4 troll putting pregnant man emoji and 1 likes so I just resetted it
valid anchor
Disliking just because I self like which everyone else does is kinda weird
i mean thats not the real reason
smoky plinth
This time was because of the link right
sour hedge
Ye this time was accidental
smoky plinth
First time it was fully on purpose there was like 4 troll putting pregnant man e...
Alright lol
valid anchor
First time it was fully on purpose there was like 4 troll putting pregnant man e...
it still isnt right to do that 🫠
pallid olive
why did you ping me for a return mastery
sour hedge
it still isnt right to do that 🫠
Based on what?
valid anchor
why did you ping me for a return mastery
you already were there before
sour hedge
why did you ping me for a return mastery
He's weird just ignore it
pallid olive
out of all people
valid anchor
He's weird just ignore it
wth
smoky plinth
why did you ping me for a return mastery
Because he’s acting quite petty
pallid olive
instant downvote
sour hedge
Chutio not everyone that's been there is gonna care
smoky plinth
Doesn’t give you ANY reason to ping people that have been here
valid anchor
oops
sour hedge
Great now they downvote my shit because that dude pinging them
pallid olive
mastery and return is no no words
valid anchor
Doesn’t give you ANY reason to ping people that have been here
well you were interested in the SAME suggestion word for word
pallid olive
Great now they downvote my shit because that dude pinging them
I downvote because return is badly designed
valid anchor
so i thought it was somewhat interesting
sour hedge
Chutio I genuinely might just reset this suggestion again just because of you
valid anchor
Chutio I genuinely might just reset this suggestion again just because of you
you shouldnt 🫠
sour hedge
Nothing stopping me
smoky plinth
mastery and return is no no words
If it’s done right AND return is reworked then it’s not a full no no, would take forever to get that to happen
valid anchor
Nothing stopping me
yes stopping you
you cant delete the post only the message
what would the mods say after seeing 4 of the same suggestion 🫠
pallid olive
If it’s done right AND return is reworked then it’s not a full no no, would take...
an ability shouldnt get reworked just for it to get a mastery
valid anchor
from the same person
pallid olive
even less when the ability in question is fucking return
sour hedge
what would the mods say after seeing 4 of the same suggestion 🫠
You can delete the post genius
smoky plinth
an ability shouldnt get reworked just for it to get a mastery
That’s not what Im saying, sorry if I worded it wrong
sour hedge
Literal button called "delete post"
smoky plinth
I mean like just in general return needs a rework
valid anchor
You can delete the post genius
well even if that
smoky plinth
And maybe then if the rework is good then a mastery might be an right thing to add
valid anchor
its logged ig
smoky plinth
Literal button called "delete post"
Doesn’t that only delete the message??
valid anchor
deleting the post isnt the smartest way 🫠
sour hedge
Doesn’t that only delete the message??
Not if I also lock and/or close post
valid anchor
Doesn’t that only delete the message??
i think so
valid anchor
Not if I also lock and/or close post
ok bro genuienly you cant do that
if you can you can do it right now as you wanted
sour hedge
ok bro genuienly you cant do that
I literally can
valid anchor
yeah why dont you do that
sour hedge
Chutio I have 4 suggestion with over 100 likes I think I know what I'm doing
valid anchor
Chutio I have 4 suggestion with over 100 likes I think I know what I'm doing
no you shouldnt suggest based on your popularity
thats a bad argument
smoky plinth
thats a bad argument
Semi bad argument*
valid anchor
idk but not good
sour hedge
It's a totally valid argument to point out I have experience in handling suggestion
valid anchor
It's a totally valid argument to point out I have experience in handling suggest...
it isnt
idk wya
valid anchor
because popularity does not mean handling suggestions
valid anchor
it can be like "remove god punch" (and people say: yeah we want it away, without people with other perspectives) and then u get 1000 likes or smth like that (this is exagarated and a bad example)
there is 0% evidence that popularity means handling suggestions
smoky plinth
Then why give that as an example😭
valid anchor
idk its good enough
sour hedge
What kinda example is that
That make no sense in the context of what's being said here
valid anchor
an example why some people still believe gp should be removed
valid anchor
That make no sense in the context of what's being said here
oh and also mass pressure exists
sour hedge
Yea except if it get 1000 likes and no downvote it's still the majority's
valid anchor
Yea except if it get 1000 likes and no downvote it's still the majority's
yeah thats what i meant
the moment you get 100 likes the rest of the people will probably also like
sour hedge
Just like how I have the current most popular suggestion and only <1% of downvote
valid anchor
another reason why popularity doesnt mean that the suggestion should be added
sour hedge
There's really no such thing as peer pressure for ability wars suggestion
valid anchor
There's really no such thing as peer pressure for ability wars suggestion
yes
there is
definitely
sour hedge
Do you even understand the idea of peer pressure
valid anchor
yes
sour hedge
You don't just see people liking something and you say ooh I'ma like it
That's not how it work
valid anchor
people dont know what to do or dont want to stand out the opposite way
yeah because you think i dont know what iti s
sour hedge
You seem to really not
valid anchor
yeah idk if you think so then tell me then
maybe you have a different perspective
like everyone should have
valid anchor
there is a reason i disliked
sour hedge
And that's fine
valid anchor
not because im free to
valid anchor
And that's fine
and not because you say i am allowed
sour hedge
I won't ever blame someone for disliking my stuffs
valid anchor
and not because youre acting nice
valid anchor
its because i genueinly dont like this suggestion as its somewhat low effort, already reposted twice, and very uncreative, as its just a stronger version of return with a extra R ability
thats the reason
sour hedge
If you feel that way then I won't stop you
valid anchor
i dare you to repost it again
sour hedge
Eh no real reason
valid anchor
because its not very unprobably that there is going to happen sm other accident
valid anchor
Disliking just because I self like which everyone else does is kinda weird
.
liking just because you want to start somewhere
if you know your suggestion is good then you dont need to self like it
sour hedge
Yea that's the norm, if you don't like it yourself then what's the point
valid anchor
do you even read my messages
sour hedge
That's like saying if you open a restaurant and you know the food is good then there is no point in promoting it
valid anchor
That's like saying if you open a restaurant and you know the food is good then t...
not exactly
sour hedge
It's the same idea
valid anchor
same idea but practically different
sour hedge
Not that much
valid anchor
That's like saying if you open a restaurant and you know the food is good then t...
if you would do a like, review suggestion and x reaction
that'd be way better
valid anchor
Not that much
not because it becomes more popular faster
but because this is a community
sour hedge
But why would I do that
valid anchor
But why would I do that
because you want to be fair dont you
sour hedge
A community that already know me and understand how my suggestions are Chutio
valid anchor
or is that your good handling in suggestions
sour hedge
A community that already make me have the most popular suggestion at the moment
valid anchor
A community that already know me and understand how my suggestions are Chutio
then why promote it if its already known
sour hedge
Because even the best thing need a push to start
valid anchor
no thats not how it works
valid anchor
Because even the best thing need a push to start
that was maybe way before
sour hedge
It's quite literally how it work
valid anchor
because apparently youre popular
but if youre already popular
you dont need to like your own suggestion
if its your suggestion
sour hedge
Except why wouldn't I help my own suggestion
valid anchor
because you dont have to
and because you can be fair to other people
and because youre using mass pressure somewhat
sour hedge
Let's return to the example of the restaurant. Let's say instead of you opening it, it's Gordon Ramsay opening it. You think he's not gonna promote his own restaurant? Ofcourse be is
valid anchor
Let's return to the example of the restaurant. Let's say instead of you opening ...
not in the way you said
sour hedge
And again that is not at all what mass pressure is
Placing 1 like isn't mass pressure
sour hedge
Ok you're just saying stuffs to say stuffs now
valid anchor
Ok you're just saying stuffs to say stuffs now
im not
i have already been telling you its not fair to other people who arent that popular
valid anchor
Brotha there's no fairness or whatever
ofc
valid anchor
thats not the point
the point is you should give other more chances
yes i know what you probably think that this doesnt make sense
sour hedge
Brotha it's not like I'm so well-known I steal the spotlight
valid anchor
Brotha it's not like I'm so well-known I steal the spotlight
yeah but its not like you should self like it
sour hedge
They know my name sure and even then most don't
valid anchor
They know my name sure and even then most don't
and even if
you only had seen your own perspective
why would you already like it before you see it how other people see your suggestion
valid anchor
Which is why I'm open to criticism lol
doesnt matter if you self react it directly
sour hedge
My railgun mastery suggestion (the current most popular suggestion) has been modified well over 50 times, and I still continue
And I still liked it day one
sour hedge
I know I did
valid anchor
or just chose some ability that lots of people had ignored before
but
didnt you read what the people said in your suggestions to this
sour hedge
I do ofc
calm frigate
This suggestion looks exactly the same as the last one
sour hedge
This suggestion looks exactly the same as the last one
Because it is
Except this one would make it a mastery instead of a rework
sour hedge
That's what I did yes
calm frigate
You cant just keep reposting the same thing and expect a different reaction
That's like the definition of insanity
sour hedge
Actually I can, since people were vastly telling me they'd rather this be a rework than a mastery which is why I made 2
But I already had made the mastery
calm frigate
Just change the og post to have a different name or edit the text, reposting is fucking pointless
sour hedge
We'll see ig
valid anchor
We'll see ig
🫠
tiny dome
who the fuck
dares
ping me
in 16:22
bro
this is the same shit
omfg
istg people love doing trash mastery to return
can't u understand
adding a bar
and a R
is going change
NOTHING
ON
RETUNR
tiny dome
Q is even worse now tf bro
how u make something that are LITERALLY BUFFS
AND NO CHANGES
first of all
E is literally FREE HP
FREE FULL HEALTH
CHANGES NOTHING
I ALREADY EXPLAINED THAT
IS GOING CHANGE NOTHING ADDING A BAR
SECOND OF ALL
Q COOLDOWN IS LIKE 20S LOWER
ISTG
you know
how op
Q cooldown
is?
YOU THINK PEOPLE CARE TO 2S+ PER SECOND OF INVICIBILITY
? 😭
R again, useless
no one is going use it
it is shit
BuT it IS A punCH EXtenDeR
WHO FUCKING CARES
U GOT IMMUNITY BY LESS COOLDOWN
AND FULL HP RESTORE
calm frigate
Most ppl think adding a R and a bar makes their mastery good
sour hedge
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1436138125805092946/1453309437140926644/t...
Alr let's answer this point by point
Q is literally better, 12s of invincibility is a buff. And it's easier to control how long you're invincible now
E is full health indeed but it's now an actual ability
And R is seemingly the most liked part of this suggestion
And yes combo extension are important part of the game
tiny dome
Q is literally better, 12s of invincibility is a buff. And it's easier to contro...
YEAH
A HUGH BUFF
HUGE*
bro
do you know the fact
that
Q
have
38s cooldown
28*
u literally removed
16 cooldown
of smth that can make the user immortal
sour hedge
8+24 is 32
sour hedge
Eh yea you're right I maybe should up it
livid hazel
R seems cool
tiny dome
It's just return but now an actual ability
a actual more op and stronger ability
livid hazel
but this has legit the same problem as cosmos mastery - its just boring buffs
sour hedge
Welp seem people really don't want it as a mastery
sour hedge
Well I mean it used to have 16 likes
tiny dome
useless and unbalanced buffs
sour hedge
Sadly I had it reopen it
livid hazel
Welp seem people really don't want it as a mastery
because of the issue i mentioned above. all masteries but cosmos mastery rework the ability in some way or another
sour hedge
You're insane if you think people wouldn't use R
tiny dome
💔
livid hazel
and also R seems kinda useless unless you're mid wall combo/near the edge
sour hedge
R literally change a 4 M1 combo into a 8 M1 combo
livid hazel
at most i would only see it used by good players to trap hiveminds/devourers and kill them more easily
sour hedge
That's 80 hp
tiny dome
finally someone who understands my point 🥲
tiny dome
That's 80 hp
blud
u said
the guy
goes BACK
where he was
not it changes
how he was
calm frigate
Lol
sour hedge
10 damages x8 is 80 damages
livid hazel
so he can just walk away
all he'd have to do is use any ability
sour hedge
It's really not hard to understand, it tp you back to where you where punched
tiny dome
It's really not hard to understand, it tp you back to where you where punched
so useless
just use a skill
or walk away
tiny dome
It allow some insane combo, but if you aren't able to see it
💔
do you even understand your own suggestion
livid hazel
tbh this would be a decent rework for return, but as a mastery i just see it being as hated as cosmos
sour hedge
Eh might aswell close this, it's clear people clearly like it more as a rework
tiny dome
tbh this would be a decent rework for return, but as a mastery i just see it bei...
is not like people like return users
sour hedge
tbh this would be a decent rework for return, but as a mastery i just see it bei...
Well I have both
I also proposed it as a rework
tiny dome
Eh might aswell close this, it's clear people clearly like it more as a rework
no
not even for a rework
you just made directly buffs
sour hedge
no
not even for a rework
you just made directly buffs
I made it strategic and fun now
Not just some boring defense simulator
tiny dome
Not just some boring defense simulator
same thing btw ^
sour hedge
Literally not at all
tiny dome
HI GUYS IN TODAY VIDEO I ADDED A R TO RETURN AND FULLY DIRECTLY BUFFED IT!
NOW PEOPLE THINK IS A STRATEGIC AND FUN ABILITY NOW!!!!!!!
livid hazel
Not just some boring defense simulator
sour hedge
It actual require thinking because of the bar but at least the ability are fun to use
tiny dome
It actual require thinking because of the bar but at least the ability are fun t...
as i said before
the bar
changes
NOTHING
sour hedge
The Q isn't also a direct buff
It change everything
They can't use the E early otherwise they can't use the Q or the r
sour hedge
Ye immortal for 4s if the cooldown is 16s
livid hazel
the R is good but the rest are litterally the same as non-mastery with buffs
sour hedge
The Q isn't the same
tiny dome
Ye immortal for 4s if the cooldown is 16s
original return let u immortal for 5s
sour hedge
You can use it longer or shorter
livid hazel
You can use it longer or shorter
that's... a buff?
sour hedge
Yes but if you use it too long you can't use your other move
tiny dome
that's... a buff?
a addition
livid hazel
^
crystal oasis
lemon mastery but with Return's abilities
sour hedge
Plus you also need to actually think about it as to not waste energy
tiny dome
(idkmypseudo2 says that is for strategic reasons a full hp restore any moment)
sour hedge
lemon mastery but with Return's abilities
Not everything that has a bar is based on lemon mastery
sour hedge
(idkmypseudo2 says that is for strategic reasons a full hp restore any moment)
A full HP return drain 80% you do understand how that is a very important and strategic decision
crystal oasis
Not everything that has a bar is based on lemon mastery
okay but it is the same mechanic and you didn't think of any interesting new abilities or gimmicks
tiny dome
as i said, JUST DIRECT AND UNBALANCED BUFFS
livid hazel
A full HP return drain 80% you do understand how that is a very important and st...
it takes 20 seconds to regen 80%, it's not like you're loosing any energy
sour hedge
okay but it is the same mechanic and you didn't think of any interesting new abi...
The R is interesting according to most people except that dude
tiny dome
A full HP return drain 80% you do understand how that is a very important and st...
20s to get 80%
u think this is slow lmao
livid hazel
and the ability's cd is 30s btw
tiny dome
The R is interesting according to most people except that dude
can't you understand the fact
your INTERESTING R
livid hazel
The R is interesting according to most people except that dude
it's interesting but mostly useless
sour hedge
I feel like y'all don't use lemon or mage enough to understand how having 2 sources of energy and cd to manage is actually important
crystal oasis
The R is interesting according to most people except that dude
doesn't tie in with Return's playstyle of living as long as possible
tiny dome
don't leave people at the EFFECT
they was?
so let me explain
i thrown a potion of alchemist
on the affected person by R
when u use R
sour hedge
doesn't tie in with Return's playstyle of living as long as possible
It allow it to also play offensively which is the number one criticism
tiny dome
this guy STILL will have the potion
crystal oasis
I feel like y'all don't use lemon or mage enough to understand how having 2 sour...
you don't even have to worry about that as lemon
livid hazel
I feel like y'all don't use lemon or mage enough to understand how having 2 sour...
the energy bar is there for decoration, you geniunly can't spend it all unless you're spamming the abilities
sour hedge
you don't even have to worry about that as lemon
You do if you're figthing anyone competent
tiny dome
lemon users just use the lemon smoke grenade and invisibility
livid hazel
the abilities take longer to get out of cd than the energy they take
tiny dome
no one really uses the drink
crystal oasis
You do if you're figthing anyone competent
sour hedge
It used to be 2% per second but higher ups said noway that'd be too weak
sour hedge
Mage, lemon, magnet, all great ability
tiny dome
like ur suggestion that is the worst bar ability balance i ever saw
tiny dome
Mage, lemon, magnet, all great ability
magnet and mage 😭
@runic blaze look at this guy calling magnet balanced
(mastery)
tiny dome
We still calling magnet mas unbalanced in 2026 really?
i literally use butter
runic blaze
What's the context
tiny dome
magnet is the top 2 worst ability to kill
tiny dome
What's the context
balanced bar ability
sour hedge
This isn't even about magnet
runic blaze
We still calling magnet mas unbalanced in 2026 really?
It's pretty freaking good rn
tiny dome
Yea but it's figthable
did u ever saw a magnet mastery user that have more than 300k
sour hedge
Yea
sour hedge
I'll probably just close this soon my rework proposal is clearly more appealing
tiny dome
original return is weak compared to this sh bro 💔
runic blaze
Yea but it's figthable
I mean... If they don't dodge every attack
sour hedge
I mean... If they don't dodge every attack
Yea good magnet mastery user are hard to fight
runic blaze
Yea good magnet mastery user are hard to fight
It's not too busted
rugged latch
Holy unbalanced
sour hedge
Holy unbalanced
How would you balance it then?
tiny dome
How would you balance it then?
simple
DON'T ADD A BAR
sour hedge
why people even saying R is good
You're legitimately the only one saying that
tiny dome
AND DON'T MAKE DIRECT BUFFS
runic blaze
It's a tiny bit weaker than what it once was (before the superbuff)
rugged latch
Where do I even start
valid anchor
yeah
sour hedge
simple
DON'T ADD A BAR
Without bar it's worst dawg
tiny dome
You're legitimately the only one saying that
there is ALOT OF REASONS TO BE HORRIBLE
rugged latch
Super long ass invincibility
tiny dome
Super long ass invincibility
don't forget that have 16s less cooldown
rugged latch
Way point mechanism and shorter revive time
sour hedge
The R seem to be the part people like most about it I'm surprised you call it unnecessary
valid anchor
and no creativity
tiny dome
The R seem to be the part people like most about it I'm surprised you call it un...
is because
is USELESS
u still didnt understand the point of ur own R
rugged latch
Not every ability needs an r ability 😭
sour hedge
is because
is USELESS
u still didnt understand the point of ur own R
It tp you back to where you were punched it's not hard to understand
It allow for crazy combo but it's still manageable
tiny dome
It tp you back to where you were punched it's not hard to understand
exactly
teleports you where u was punches
u got no ragdoll
and liberty to use abilitys
or just walk away
tiny dome
Or the dude tp you and punch you instantly
it TPS YOU
don't RETURN YOU
u see the point?
sour hedge
It's the same thing dawg
brittle vector
Also did u just copy the idea 3 different times?
sour hedge
Also did u just copy the idea 3 different times?
No it's a long story but no
Explain how it's different butter
valid anchor
u see the point?
well it does infact not "return"
tiny dome
It's the same thing dawg
if TPS
will TP YOU
at your CURRENT STATE
if RETURNS you
will RETURN you
at your BEFORE state
valid anchor
thats a different return we WOULD talk about
brittle vector
And also? Buffing return...
sour hedge
if TPS
will TP YOU
at your CURRENT STATE
if RETURNS you
will RETURN you
at you...
Nothing said you get returned at your previous state bruh
tiny dome
Nothing said you get returned at your previous state bruh
exactly. you just tp
weak dagger
no.... 
tiny dome
so if you use smth like
sour hedge
It only mention returned to your position
sour hedge
Ye it can be dodged but it has to be timed right
sour hedge
The return can just tp you then punch you and you're cooked
sour hedge
Ok they'll just wait you use it then activate it they get a whole 5s to activate it
tiny dome
Ok they'll just wait you use it then activate it they get a whole 5s to activate...
blud
most of KB immunity skills
are 10s long
crystal armour
stone armour
etc e tc
sour hedge
Most ability have none luckily so that point don't really work
tiny dome
wdym none?
sour hedge
Plus forcing people to use ability unnecessarily is a good thing anyway
No kb canceller
Most ability ain't got any
tiny dome
you can counter this R with almost everything on game
sour hedge
That's just a lie
tiny dome
is not
valid anchor
to be fair i think it can be countered with almost everything
sour hedge
Ok then tell me what counter it
valid anchor
soda teleport gravity shift slime ...
tiny dome
2s
sour hedge
Sure stone and crystal and plasma I see it
tiny dome
i goin past copy it so can be faster
sour hedge
soda teleport gravity shift slime ...
In that only teleport kinda does counter
valid anchor
defender bubble
sour hedge
Bubble ya I see it but defender not at all
valid anchor
Bubble ya I see it but defender not at all
brother
you wouldnt let yourself punched if youre a defender (baller or archer for example)
sour hedge
Well maybe defender mastery actually
sour hedge
you wouldnt let yourself punched if youre a defender (baller or archer for examp...
Ok so you don't know what a counter mean...
valid anchor
In that only teleport kinda does counter
gravity works instant, soda works instant and non cancelable, slime works instant
valid anchor
Ok so you don't know what a counter mean...
well defender already counters it passively
your fault 🥲
sour hedge
It's a playstyle not a counter
valid anchor
what else
valid anchor
It's a playstyle not a counter
its an ability not playstyle 🫠
sour hedge
And none of the ability you mention does counter it since you get tp back to where you were
valid anchor
And none of the ability you mention does counter it since you get tp back to whe...
that makes like
0 sense
sour hedge
its an ability not playstyle 🫠
Running away because you only got ranged ability is a playstyle
valid anchor
Running away because you only got ranged ability is a playstyle
no because defender can also be meele
i meant the counter with meele ofc
sour hedge
How does that counter it
valid anchor
well
you can swing your sword
you have to back off
and boom R doesnt work anymore
sour hedge
Chutio I legitimately think you're just talking to talk
valid anchor
Chutio I legitimately think you're just talking to talk
well i thought you would respect what i think
tiny dome
Teleportation
Gravity unmastery and mastery
Seat
Glue
Grapple
Soap
Robot
Buff
Slime
Mushroom ( Any Class)
Bounty Hunter mastery and unmastered
programmer
deflect
stone
cards
meteor
plant
blood god
mage
Crystal
paladin mastery and unmastered
and etc
valid anchor
didnt you
sour hedge
If I spam punch and I tp you next to me you can't just back off
tiny dome
too lazy to say every single ability
sour hedge
Teleportation
Gravity unmastery and mastery
Seat
Glue
Grapple
Soap
Robot
Buff
S...
Alr let's see
valid anchor
If I spam punch and I tp you next to me you can't just back off
no you didnt understand me
i swing, YOU have to back off because its a sword/hammer (and has more range) and then tping wouldnt help as i already conquered the area
if you use it as an combo extender excuse me but thats stupid (because tping someone with ragdoll is smth that doesnt always work)
tiny dome
if you use it as an combo extender excuse me but thats stupid (because tping som...
u get no ragdoll on TP
because don't RETURN IT
it TPS it
sour hedge
Teleportation
Gravity unmastery and mastery
Seat
Glue
Grapple
Soap
Robot
Buff
S...
Tp can if fast enough, but it's very unlikely you're reaction time is somehow fast enough to do that when you don't even know when I'll activate it. Gravity neither since I'll definitely land at least one punch anyway, tho the mastery work. Seat doesn't work since I'll land a punch anyway. Glue neither I'll land a punch. Grapple I'll also land a punch before you can escape away, but it work if you pull me toward you. Soap doesn't even make sense. Robot no I'll be faster anyway. Buff no nothing it has can really do anything here. Slime neither even if it's in the air it's tped right next to me so I'll land a punch. Mushroom is good honestly good counter. Bounty hunter neither work since I'll punch you before you can use anything. Programmer can work but I wouldn't bet on it. Deflect and stone and cards obviously work. Meteor is pretty smart can work. Plant doesn't work even if it's in the air it's still getting tped to the ground because that's where I punched you. Blood god E isn't long enough to protect you the full 5 seconds so no. Mage can if timed right. Crystal and paladin obviously
Alot of wrongs guesses there
tiny dome
i love u forget
all the actual point s
gravity unm u can just use
before the tp
and u will fly away from the 2nd punch combo
u will MAYBE
take 10 dmg
on max
mas ter
mastery
lwk just use hollow purple
ur just idiot
grapple just push the guy using Q
valid anchor
the thing is that most all of these abilities (or most i didnt count everything) have instant activation
tiny dome
or use E to escape away
since punch don't cancel grapple
soap don't make sense?
wait until he spawn soap
and u fall
soap basically cancel ur punch comob
combo*
glue also cancel ur punch combo
seat cancel ur punch combo
just spawn robot
tohelp u
and BOOM
no loner punch com bo
combo*
or just thrown the wrench
and ur cooked
buff
again
you don't RETURN
u TP
just use the roll
that ur fine
slime just use the jump
sour hedge
You do understand half of your point don't work because A. I can either dodge it then activate or B. I activate then punch before you can use them
tiny dome
or put the slime ground on the tp area
tiny dome
You do understand half of your point don't work because A. I can either dodge it...
''A
i don't accept
B
i just care to my opnion''
sour hedge
Slime jump doesn't even cancel since it'll be tp right next to my constantly punching hand
tiny dome
Slime jump doesn't even cancel since it'll be tp right next to my constantly pun...
again.
if the R
RETURNED U
to the BEFORE state
ok
would be fine
but it TPS YOU
sour hedge
Can you stop reposting this already
I didn't have a choice I tried to link my suggestions together but it deleted it
sour hedge
but it TPS YOU
Exactly you'll still be jumping but it tp you next to it
broken grove
I didn't have a choice I tried to link my suggestions together but it deleted it
Dkn't edit links bruh
brittle vector
Can you stop reposting this already
BRO LIKE WHY U POST IT 5 TIMES. WE ALREADY KNOW
tiny dome
Exactly you'll still be jumping but it tp you next to it
can't u understand
that when u punch
the guy will jump
at the same time
sour hedge
Ye except he's tped next to a punch he'll be punched if it's timed right
sour hedge
It doesn't matter how high in the air he is
valid anchor
Slime jump doesn't even cancel since it'll be tp right next to my constantly pun...
there is no constantly punching hand
tiny dome
bounty hunter
is the same thing as soap
just use E
to slow the g uy down
no longer punch combo
or use mastery
to shoot on the guy
easy punch combo cancel
sour hedge
I can just activate before you use them
valid anchor
you can try as much as you want endlag exists + you dont have it CONSTANT always (youre not getting it ms perfect)
sour hedge
you can try as much as you want endlag exists + you dont have it CONSTANT always...
We get the point
tiny dome
istg AW players was smarter
valid anchor
is the same thing as soap
the thing is if the return user is hit the 5 secs will be over
brittle vector
Ngl i now think this is rage bait. Posting the same thing 5 times and makes people rage.
sour hedge
Ngl i now think this is rage bait. Posting the same thing 5 times and makes peop...
I posted it like 4 times max and it only got deleted by accident
I made the current most popular suggestion you really think I'd waste my time ragebaiting
tiny dome
programmer
just use the ERROR skill bro, you don't even need to use the projectiles
valid anchor
I made the current most popular suggestion you really think I'd waste my time ra...
we already talked about this argument
valid anchor
programmer
just use the ERROR skill bro, you don't even need to use the projecti...
error does counter it
completely
sour hedge
programmer
just use the ERROR skill bro, you don't even need to use the projecti...
Not really I can just use it before you use yours
tiny dome
plant i don't need even say why is the best counter to that
because R TPS YOU INSTEAD OF RETURNING, JUST WALK AWAY
valid anchor
Not really I can just use it before you use yours
no because it isnt cancelable
duh 🫠
you get yourself comboed like that
sour hedge
no because it isnt cancelable
You'll still be punched
A single punch is still a combo extension
tiny dome
are we deadass
valid anchor
You'll still be punched
yeah but i can punch you afterwards without any issue and youre ragdolled
valid anchor
A single punch is still a combo extension
a combo extension that makes you potentially being comboed
sour hedge
Very rare chance but possibly
tiny dome
counter R
sour hedge
The spikes don't counter at all
tiny dome
Very rare chance but possibly
extremel ly common chance
tiny dome
The spikes don't counter at all
slow + damage
sour hedge
And the trail thingy is too short
valid anchor
EVERY SKILL
yes
sour hedge
And I get 5
tiny dome
smth like this
tiny dome
And I get 5
5 to do NOTHING
bc
YOU TP THE GUY
AND DON'T RETURN IT
just
walk
away
sour hedge
He can't just walk away because I'm there to punch him
valid anchor
literally any abillity that has area damage counters it
tiny dome
He can't just walk away because I'm there to punch him
i think AW players can't understand the fact
valid anchor
because it can predict the R and even without R do potential damage
valid anchor
that is just use the puddle from blood god
ye
sour hedge
Also y'all acting like they'd have the time to do that, they don't get a single second to think it's M1 x4 and then bam another M1x4
Done right they're no time for them to do anything
valid anchor
Also y'all acting like they'd have the time to do that, they don't get a single ...
are we deadass 🫠
sour hedge
Yes totally
valid anchor
mhh
valid anchor
how many times did he tell you
tiny dome
i going to my dentist suggestion
sour hedge
They literally can't just walk away either
valid anchor
ok
valid anchor
They literally can't just walk away either
how many times did we tell you 🫠
tiny dome
They literally can't just walk away either
they can.
sour hedge
Chutio you talk just to talk I've stopped listening a while ago
At least he's saying stuffs
tiny dome
again
valid anchor
Chutio you talk just to talk I've stopped listening a while ago
idk
tiny dome
the R
valid anchor
They cant. But go ahead explain
oooo not so open
tiny dome
don't RETURN
THE
GUY
at the bef ore state
but at current state
how many times
i need to say this
frosty gale
Return is so op
sour hedge
Exactly. So if you get next to where they'll be you can just punch them
tiny dome
And its mains are ass too
he made the return ''shield'' -16s cooldown on the suggestion
sour hedge
It's a forced tp so just position yourself and you get free M1
sour hedge
he made the return ''shield'' -16s cooldown on the suggestion
I did say I'll up it
I change my shit believe it or not
tiny dome
-15s cooldown now
frosty gale
Son
frosty gale
Nephew
sour hedge
Also this one is getting deleted it's clear they prefer the rework idea
tiny dome
i think i prefer current return than your shitty suggestion
well
i don't think
i am SURE
valid anchor
Also this one is getting deleted it's clear they prefer the rework idea
what did we say
"i dare you to repost this 🫠 "
sour hedge
what did we say
Chutio the plan was always to delete the less popular one
And it's been made pretty clear
tiny dome
just give up return mastery at this point bro
valid anchor
i agree
sour hedge
Ye it'll be a return rework
frosty gale
Yeah
sour hedge
Idc if you don't want it honestly you'll be free to dislike
valid anchor
rework is MAYBE better but still sucks
brittle vector
Return is so op
I agree. Buffing an very good ability cuz it is boring?
frosty gale
Just say its ur main ability
frosty gale
I agree. Buffing an very good ability cuz it is boring?
Yeah bro
valid anchor
well in the way its just mega buffed
tiny dome
very good?
frosty gale
Return needs a rework
tiny dome
EXTREMELLY BROKEN
frosty gale
Thats a NERF
sour hedge
Just say its ur main ability
Not even close it's pirate
brittle vector
EXTREMELLY BROKEN
Yes
frosty gale
Not even close it's pirate
Then ask for a pirate mastery
tiny dome
Not even close it's pirate
keep lying
frosty gale
Return is so fucking ass
tiny dome
Then ask for a pirate mastery
OMFG NO
sour hedge
One call it a nerf one call it a buff that's crazy
tiny dome
DON'T GIVE HIM IDEAS
brittle vector
EXTREMELLY BROKEN
It is BROKEN
frosty gale
If u say anything bout return
valid anchor
i mean
frosty gale
Dont speak to me
valid anchor
did you maybe perhaps make lots of suggestions
and have that railgun rework be your lucky one
just a simple question
brittle vector
Is it the only one?
brittle vector
Exept return copies
tiny dome
but is so bad worked on
sour hedge
just a simple question
Nope I only got a couple other
I have 4 with over 100 likes not just "one lucky guess"
And I know when the people don't want something, like right now
Which make it pointless for y'all to keep arguing
Cause this is getting deleted anyway
I know y'all don't want it so I'll delete it
frosty gale
Thanks
tiny dome
i got 100 likes so i am cool, people don't like this bc they just don't like return
valid anchor
*i got 100 likes so i am cool, people don't like this bc they just don't like re...
maybe
sour hedge
*i got 100 likes so i am cool, people don't like this bc they just don't like re...
I'm allowed to answer the question but ok
frosty gale
I know y'all don't want it so I'll delete it
Btw
What are ur other suggestions
About
frosty gale
And
valid anchor
https://discord.com/channels/922921165373202463/1456507680385400954 oh yeah this is the 4th one
frosty gale
Railgun is mid so its cool
tiny dome
Well my main one is the railgun mastery suggestion
how u downgraded so badl y bro
valid anchor
and HUHH you didnt delete it?
can we already call the mods
you literally made 4 of the same suggestion
sour hedge
And the others 3, well 2 since one was about portal mastery that's sadly had to get abandoned when Checken said it was to much work, but the other too I can link rn
valid anchor
2 are active as of now
sour hedge
you literally made 4 of the same suggestion
Rn there is only 2 and they are different
sour hedge
And one is getting deleted as soon as you stop talking
valid anchor
its a rework yes i know
but
i thought you had it planned
you are genuienly disgusting
sour hedge
Bruh damn ok
dusk trellis
and how do people disapoint me so much nowadays
*Disappoint
valid anchor
this confirmed what i thought
sour hedge
Ok??
frosty gale
Ratio
dusk trellis
nova spawned just to say this
goodbye now
sour hedge
Are y'all done now
sour hedge
Can I delete it now
dusk trellis
Can I delete it now
NO
sour hedge
Imma read this suggestion rq
Don't it's getting deleted
tiny dome
Are y'all done now
waiting u stop doing suggestions
sour hedge
waiting u stop doing suggestions
Why would I the people like them
1 bad one isn't changing that
tiny dome
Why would I the people like them
from return
frosty gale
Return suggestions
dusk trellis
Don't it's getting deleted
I don’t wanna scroll up that high
frosty gale
Atleast stop for a time
valid anchor
I don’t wanna scroll up that high
Passive
You have an energy bar similar to lemon mastery, it feel up by 4% every seconds and can reach at max 100%. All your abilities are reliant on that energy. You get +12% per kill too.
[E]
You spawn an orb just like current return. When you spawn it, it drain you 15% of energy. There are 2 ways of activating it. If you die naturally, you respawn at the orb and it drain 30%. However, you can also activate it manually earlier by pressing E again, which drains 80% of your energy and respawns you instantly at the orb.
Cooldown: 30s, activate upon death/respawn
[Q]
Once you press Q, you gain invincibility. Q drain 8% of energy per second of being activated. Pressing Q again will deactivate the invincibility.
The cooldown is 8s+2s per second of invincibility. If you don't have enough energy to continue, the invincibility stops.
[R]
Pressing R drain 10%. Upon punching someone, you will put a mark on them. Once a person is marked, you can press R again, draining 10% more,to teleport them to the place they were originally punched at. If the mark isn't activated after 5s, the mark disappears and the cooldown activates
Cooldown :25s, activate upon pressing twice
Thoughts?
dusk trellis
Passive
You have an energy bar similar to lemon mastery, it feel up by 4% every ...
Ty
sour hedge
Then suggest it
tiny dome
maybe
valid anchor
i think even i got a better idea to a return rework
ping me if u make one
dusk trellis
Passive
You have an energy bar similar to lemon mastery, it feel up by 4% every ...
Mid
valid anchor
bye now
frosty gale
Its mediocre at best
sour hedge
Aight can I delete now