Bring back coffee and energy drink

[hazy magnet]

Yea, these abilities were too simple and only provides a speed boost, but it was one of the best punch grinding abilities, while being beginner friendly, it was also useful for skilled players as well. by taking away that ability, u took some peoples mains away. Soda is a good replacement, but it just seems to be a less less useful version of coffee, its predecessor. The same thing with the cheese ability. If coffee was too good for the amount of punches it required, raise the requirements, such as punches. If its still too similar to soda, and if a lot of people mained it in the future, buff the speed boost of soda, it would make the ability much less pointless to use. So in conclusion, buff soda, or bring back coffee and energy drink, it would increase variety, quality of life, and making the game better for everyone

[sturdy vine]

yeah i dont get why they removed them

[stable solar]

"gloves" cool a shit battles player

[sturdy vine]

oh ew slap battles i revoke my like

[stable solar]

btw coffee and energy drink iirc was removed because they made combos too easy and they could easily run when low hp

and they had like no draw backs

[lament roost]

Get this, an ability with nothing but a 50% speed boost and no extra kb to make up for that ain't fun to fight

Neither is energy drink but coffee was more of a problem

Oh also, coffee has like 15 extra max hp

[stable solar]

wait it did?

[lament roost]

Or 10 extra max hp, I forgot

[stable solar]

thats crazy

[hazy magnet]

whats wrong with liking a similar game

[stable solar]

sb is stupidly unbalanced so when idiots who play sb suggest stuff it tends to be stupidly unbalanced

[hazy magnet]

yea, but they could nerf it when it re releases so it's balanced

[lament roost]

Still just a super bland speed boost

How do people find that fun?

[hazy magnet]

wait a sec imma try soda rq

its a bad version of stardust

[stable solar]

???

it gives you a speed boost

backwards

and it has like no start up time

[hazy magnet]

coffee vs soda is something that combo very well vs a temu version

[hazy magnet]

stardust gives a lazer that knocks back opponents

[lament roost]

Coffee would combo TOO well because it didn't have extra kb to offset the 50% speed boost

[hazy magnet]

the star for healing is a better version of the speed boost

[lament roost]

Soda has a kb boost to make up for the speed boost

[lament roost]

Star doesn't even boost walkspeed what

[hazy magnet]

uhhhhh

wait a sec

still

my point still stands

soda has a lezer, (soda ability), something to boost stats(star), and an area attack(more soda)

theyre still similar

and in the wiki it said coffee was replaced because it was too similar to soda

[lament roost]

Very different

[stable solar]

me when lezer instead of lazer :)

[hazy magnet]

still

[rancid cave]

Me when I say lazer instead of laser

[hazy magnet]

what is happening rn😭

[stable solar]

me when i say lazer instead of laser cause i watch lazerbeam sometimes

[lament roost]

First, soda E has very small range and boosts you backwards, meanwhile stardust Q doesn't boost you, removes your ability to jump while casting and has way more range (I also think it slows you down, could be wrong though)
Second, soda's walkspeed boost is passive, while stardust's boosts from R are jump power and healing, while also not having 100% uptime
Third, stardust E and soda E are completely different things

[lament roost]

@void grail

Oops wrong guy

My bad

[hazy magnet]

so its a rework?

[stable solar]

it does slow you down i believe

[rancid cave]

Pinged a random ass guy

[lament roost]

I saw that typo random

[rancid cave]

Shhh

[stable solar]

im fairly sure stardust doesn't boost walkspeed either

[lament roost]

I know it doesn't

It can't boost it's horizontal mobility

[stable solar]

it makes it feel so bad for me

[lament roost]

But it sure as hell has quite a lot of vertical mobility and range

[stable solar]

idk why

but i feel slugish when i use stardust

[rancid cave]

Probably because it has 0 horizontal mobility

Yet it’s moves are based on range and pushing people back

So you never end up actually reaching then for more than like 5 seconds

R pushes them back more with punches

E pushes

Q pushes

[lament roost]

Do I send the slicer part of my defender mas remake thing into your dms

[rancid cave]

Sure why not

[lament roost]

One minite

Minute

[glass ravine]

I feel like slap battles is more of a goof around game instead of a fighting game

[stable solar]

it's in the fighting game genre that this game is in it's a fighting game.

though nowa days sometimes i use aw to just chat lol

but it is a fighting game

and it's a more balanced fighting game then sb is