#UFO Mastery fix

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pallid cypress
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It's broken. Like, 95% of abilities can't fight back, let alone get on top of the UFO to invade it. And even if you somehow invade the UFO, you'll still get tossed around and touched by five aliens and a real player because they're still at an advantage.

Changes that could possibly make this more fair :

  • Allowing players to use skills if they successfully invade the UFO (Disabled if they get abducted by the tractor beam)

  • Allowing players to mess around with the control pad, like clicking the self-destruct button or lockdown for example.

  • Forcing UFO players to refuel by landing on the ground, rendering them vulnerable / allowing projectiles to damage the UFO to make it crash down.

glacial token
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  1. i do feel like the inconsistency with some things being able to do stuff (farmer, crafter, and brickbattle for example) and others not is a bit odd, so yeah
  2. HELL no
  3. just making them unable to hover over the void for too long would be good enough imo
pallid cypress
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  1. also doesnt fix the issue with most abilities not being able to do ANYTHING against UFO
glacial token
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brickbattler

pallid cypress
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to fight back

glacial token
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rabbit for example assuming the user knows what they're doing

pallid cypress
glacial token
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i'm saying in general

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you're specifically targeting ufo here

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as if it doesn't apply to many other abilities

pallid cypress
pallid cypress
glacial token
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a rabbit who knows what they're doing, a midas who knows what they're doing, stardust in general

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i could go on

pallid cypress
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they can't get up

glacial token
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you still aren't understanding what i'm saying

pallid cypress
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explain it properly then

glacial token
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i am

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you're just too focused on ufo to realize i'm not talking about ufo here

pallid cypress
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if you're good enough you can put up SOMEWHAT of a fight against any other ability

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not hard to understand

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you can land two punches on a midas

glacial token
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hammer

pallid cypress
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it doesnt matter how good you are, you're landing zero on a ufo

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regardless of how shit they are

glacial token
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stardust in general

pallid cypress
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since you're saying that they know what they're doing

pallid cypress
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you're not landing a single punch on a ufo user if you have shift

glacial token
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if they spam ranged attacks and armor you really can't

pallid cypress
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even if you're top 1

pallid cypress
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bad and good

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you could give a 5 year old an ipad and UFO

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and they'd still be untouchable

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you dont even have to leave the cockpit

glacial token
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pretty sure a 5 year old can spam buttons

pallid cypress
glacial token
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ok?

pallid cypress
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you can kill a stardust

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cn you not??

fervent lava
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just jump in the ufo and combo the ufo user to the wall

pallid cypress
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right

fervent lava
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???

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most of the abilities can jump in it

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mech for example

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its enough to solo the fo user

glacial token
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wouldn't say most

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anything with vertical mobility

pallid cypress
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if both players are at the same skill level, you'd still be at a disatvantage

fervent lava
pallid cypress
fervent lava
pallid cypress
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equip a specific ability to kill one person

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LOL alright

glacial token
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kill them a bunch until they switch or ragequit

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i don't see an issue

pallid cypress
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Im not even asking for much lol

glacial token
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i do the same for god punch and custom users

pallid cypress
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you can fight off a godpunch with default

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I dont see you doing that to a ufo user

glacial token
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if they suck ass

pallid cypress
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the problem isnt that hard to see

glacial token
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how would they get ufo if they suck shit

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it requires both ufo mastery and operator

pallid cypress
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??

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like

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every person has operator

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even the ipad kids

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with 600 ping

glacial token
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clearly not with the amount of people complaining about how difficult it is

pallid cypress
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people just pass around max dos

pallid cypress
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you dont have to be good

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to get operator

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you just need to be lucky

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or you do it yourself

glacial token
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and to do it yourself you need to at least somewhat know what you're doing

pallid cypress
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the problem is tht you dont have to do it yourself

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i've seen servers where like 10 people got operator

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because the dos was nice enough to pass it around

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thats obviously how most people get operator

fervent lava
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vro its a mastery basically the name on it why shall it be a mastery if any ability can straight killing it

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normal ufo is already a ragebait to use

pallid cypress
fervent lava
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place it and ur ufo is dead after 10 seconds

pallid cypress
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you can fight off cake, bomb

fervent lava
glacial token
pallid cypress
fervent lava
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it had range, more damage basically the E is good for combo

pallid cypress
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I dont think i've EVER died to a paladin mastery user

fervent lava
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Q is useful

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its not easy to fight against

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if you know how to use it

pallid cypress
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sooo like 3 people in total?

glacial token
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also Q+E is pretty good for speed

pallid cypress
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its not common to see a paladin mastery user

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considering how boring the ability is

fervent lava
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just use gravitiy, get up there and combo the user by ufo wall

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he either self destruct or die

glacial token
pallid cypress
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the issue is right there dude, thats not the case for ufo

fervent lava
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ufo is already trash

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atleast let it mastery be better

pallid cypress
fervent lava
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still its not broken

pallid cypress
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two abilities can consistently counter ufo

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atleast 90% of abilities cant even enter the ufo

glacial token
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πŸ’€

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which two

pallid cypress
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mech and brickbattler

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require 0 preptime

fervent lava
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you know the shield just has a percent that goes down right?

pallid cypress
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😱

fervent lava
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the ufo user doesnt have that much of time to both have the shield on and use a ufo ability to damage

fervent lava
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vro

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do u even use ufo mas

pallid cypress
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yuck

fervent lava
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that button is now outside the teleporter

glacial token
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that was old ufo mastery

fervent lava
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the person shall stand on that area to turn into alien

pallid cypress
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and the probe??

fervent lava
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the new button just makes you not be able to hit the ufo user so he cant

glacial token
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though they can still use the implant

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which makes you unable to kill them through most means

fervent lava
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just basically peace between you and him

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thats what it suppose to do

pallid cypress
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so they can neutralize you with the click of a button

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great ability guys

fervent lava
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ARE YOU REAL BRO

pallid cypress
fervent lava
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ARE YOU EVEN REAL OR YOU ARE RAGEBAITING

pallid cypress
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tell me how most abilities COULD fight back against ufo

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either you get bullied by the tractor beam and they implant you

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or you get killed

fervent lava
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ALL IT DOES JUST MAKES YOU CANT HIT THE UFO USER YOU CAN JUST USE THE ESCAPING PAD

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ALSO SOMEONE WHO CANT ESCAPE THE UFO BEAM SHALL JUST HAVE SKILL ISSUES

pallid cypress
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quit getting so pissy, its not that serious

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ufo def is your favorite ability

fervent lava
pallid cypress
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getting all heated like that

pallid cypress
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crazy right

fervent lava
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ARE YOU HAVING PROBLEM WITH SOMETHING FLYING UP THE MAP?

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UFO USERS ARE MOSTLY CHILL

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THEY DONT WANT A FIGHT

pallid cypress
pallid cypress
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nothing else

pallid cypress
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gotta be your favorite

fervent lava
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im sure you died to a ufo mas user and ur js mad about it

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skill issues cro skill issues

pallid cypress
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Nah i just noticed that most abilities cant even get up

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its completely one sided

fervent lava
pallid cypress
fervent lava
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u def have some skill issues fighting against ufo mastery

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all it takes is gravity

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you cant even use abilities inside the ufo

pallid cypress
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it

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its not that hard to understand

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is it not?

fervent lava
pallid cypress
fervent lava
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when you suprise them by getting inside without them knowing that already 80% win

pallid cypress
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the aliens just get in your way and tank punches

fervent lava
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one hit and they already get to wall and then just hit them straight

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until they are dead or escape

fervent lava
pallid cypress
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not hard to click a button btw

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idk what kind of 75 iq inbred lowlifes you're fighting

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but pressing a button isnt that hard man

fervent lava
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FUCKING HIT THEM FROM THE OPPOSITE SIDE OF THE UFO BUTTONS

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GUH

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2 BRAINCELLS OR SOMETHING?

pallid cypress
fervent lava
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get the fuck out

pallid cypress
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a regular person wouldnt get this heated

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at a simple suggestion

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wow u even disliked it

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wonder why

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LOL

fervent lava
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u are stating the most stupid reasons to nerf ufo mas

pallid cypress
fervent lava
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L idea

fervent lava
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it exists for a reason

pallid cypress
fervent lava
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buddy

pallid cypress
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yeah

fervent lava
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u think ur tuff or smthing?

pallid cypress
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and you're mad because im suggesting to nerf ur fav ability

pallid cypress
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simmer down

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prepping that whole paragraph

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incoming

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hes heated

fervent lava
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ur either a kid or else just some people with skill issues of not being able combo with bare hands when they are pinned to wall

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gg

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im out

pallid cypress
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@fervent lava as i thought lol

plucky turret
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What are you people even talking about

plucky turret
pallid cypress
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They told me to just switch to mech / brickbattler

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i told them that shouldnt have to be the case

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to fight off an ability

plucky turret
pallid cypress
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no point

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the 2nd guy left

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the first one wont listen

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i even gave examples like fighting a considerably worse player

plucky turret
# fervent lava im out

Name all the abilities that can infiltrate the ufo, without outside help/super specific ufo positioning

pallid cypress
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no clue why its so hard for people to understand that a "rock paper scissor" system isnt balanced at all

dim sonnet
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what if youre a streak

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the hell you gonna do

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cry in a corner?

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also do NOT let the buttons be intrectable by other players

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we saw what that did

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the first nerf the guy mentioned is actually fire tho

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ive been wanting to use abilities in an ufo for so long

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and you could also make it so that people with the funny green chip can outomatically use abilities whether they are sucked in or not

fervent lava
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(You can't use abilities inside the UFO so the ability doesn't matter)

fervent lava
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it shall make some common sense shouldn't it?

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or Hoj's archer varriant for example

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or freeze

dim sonnet
fervent lava
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no?

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you can easily wall combo

dim sonnet
fervent lava
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tf you mean ❌

dim sonnet
fervent lava
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havent you wall combo yet in game?

dim sonnet
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i wall combo frequently

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but with the aliens its near impossible to get a good rythm

fervent lava
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so they can easily repeat till get 60 or 70 of your hp

plucky turret
fervent lava
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  • how many higher than 100k punches uses ufo?
dim sonnet
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ive seen people with like 150k use ufo mastery FREQUENTLY

fervent lava
dim sonnet
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like my friend whos at 160k

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and also more punches doesnt mean better

fervent lava
plucky turret
dim sonnet
fervent lava
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thats the point

dim sonnet
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point is you cant kill it

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not that it cant kill you

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with most abilities

plucky turret
fervent lava
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why the fuck shall you kill someone whos minding his own business and doesnt want to fight

dim sonnet
fervent lava
pallid cypress
plucky turret
fervent lava
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i lit saw someone soloing 4 ufo mas in a server

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this guy is telling "let people use abilities inside ufo"

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thats stragiht nerf to the ground

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straight*

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or giving them ability to self destruct

dim sonnet
fervent lava
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interacting with buttons and shi

fervent lava
dim sonnet
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but people still use it

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and also i dont mean just let people use abilities

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i mean let people use abilities when they break in

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not the beam

fervent lava
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you are telling me to remove the only main thing from ufo?

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like its even in the unmas ufo

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they cant just remove it from the mas ufo

dim sonnet
fervent lava
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its the main part of ability

plucky turret
dim sonnet
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you mean the damage ray

fervent lava
dim sonnet
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yea i agree it shouldnt be removed

plucky turret
dim sonnet
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but you also should be able to do SOMETHING about it

fervent lava
dim sonnet
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its not fun having a mastery ufo disrupt your fights

fervent lava
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if u wont belive it idrc tbh

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i just said something i saw

plucky turret
fervent lava
dim sonnet
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being low on hp

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or it just being a nuisance overral

fervent lava
dim sonnet
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yes but you still get dealt damage

plucky turret
# fervent lava ?

Out of the abilities you previously mentioned, which ones don't get atomized when the ufo mas user activates lockdown
And no, you can't punch them away if they SEE you entering

fervent lava
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people get damage by WORSE things can we are complaining about some beam damage πŸ’”
nerf malice first then we talk

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like how much it can damage at the worst possibility

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the beam i mean

plucky turret
plucky turret
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Assuming you land all ticks

dim sonnet
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bro malice only has its slash as anything viable fym πŸ™

fervent lava
fervent lava
plucky turret
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Also malice received some stupid nerfs
Instead of making the abilities reasonably avoidable, it's a zoner that slowly chips you to death

fervent lava
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FUCKING RUNNERS

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one slash and then running the whole map off

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or they just simply interupt your pvps with the slash

dim sonnet
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then just use any ability with a movement ability

fervent lava
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doesnt it hurt more then "a beam"

dim sonnet
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and chase them down

fervent lava
pallid cypress
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I dont see the point in mentioning an ability thats obviously in a bad state when we're arguing about UFO? You're pivoting

dim sonnet
fervent lava
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vro

plucky turret
fervent lava
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im saying if they tried to annoy you

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just equip gravity and kill them

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not that hard

dim sonnet
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no as in why are you complaining about malice

fervent lava
pallid cypress
fervent lava
fervent lava
plucky turret
dim sonnet
pallid cypress
plucky turret
dim sonnet
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do you even play the game dude😭

fervent lava
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they wont have time

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to click the button

pallid cypress
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??????

plucky turret
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"Just outskill them" isn't a valid argument

fervent lava
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if they even do they just use escape

dim sonnet
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they wont have time??

pallid cypress
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are we deadass LOOOOL

fervent lava
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easy win for you to take over

pallid cypress
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1 button btw

dim sonnet
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even when i had caught an ufo mastery offguard

fervent lava
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you dont have lock on, on the buttons

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btw

dim sonnet
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and wall comboed them

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they still pressed

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the button

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because its a button

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INSANE

fervent lava
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you have to adjust your camara while you get stunned every time and then get your mouse while it and click it while u are far from it

dim sonnet
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also dont forget the milisecond you let them run they are just gonna use the pod

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and you cant even get in if they are over the void

fervent lava
dim sonnet
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man thinks ufo is default in the ufo

fervent lava
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just camp at buttons atp the will leave themselves if u are good at m1s

dim sonnet
plucky turret
plucky turret
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You SEE a guy INFILTRATING you UFO

fervent lava
plucky turret
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And by the time they manage to REACH YOU

fervent lava
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you can reach them first

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i tried many times

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and just worked

plucky turret
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You have enough TIME to click on the BUTTON

pallid cypress
plucky turret
fervent lava
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alr buddy what ru telling me

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remove aliens?

dim sonnet
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no im saying

plucky turret
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By the time the enemy reaches you, lockdown will be active

dim sonnet
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i mean

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WE

fervent lava
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sit tight and wait for them to do this gng

dim sonnet
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are saying

plucky turret
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If you are slow, that's your problem

dim sonnet
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make more ways to get in the ufo

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or something similar

fervent lava
dim sonnet
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atleast

fervent lava
pallid cypress
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Im saying, give players an option to infiltrate the ufo regardless of what ability they're using, this isnt rock paper scissors

dim sonnet
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what happens then

plucky turret
dim sonnet
fervent lava
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anything this guy mentioned is impossible like letting people use abilities inside the ufo or letting people press the button

pallid cypress
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and to even out the playing field let people use abilities while they're infiltrating, you'll still have to kill 1 player and 5 aliens

fervent lava
plucky turret
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By your logic, why can't I assume that you are braindead and will always walk off into the void

dim sonnet
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you shouldnt need to use a specific ability in order to kill another

fervent lava
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you want some random ass protal spawn at the map to get in or smthing?

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there shall be some ways to make sense

pallid cypress
plucky turret
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The only abilities that have a decent fighting chance are brickbattler, festive and alch mas

fervent lava
plucky turret
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The rest either cannot reach it or can but get incinerated

dim sonnet
plucky turret
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And you are DEFENDING that unbalanced slop

dim sonnet
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well in one sense atleast

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its not offensive by any means

dim sonnet
plucky turret
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What are you, a ufo mas main playing dumb?

pallid cypress
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you know, the thing you had to read before commenting?

fervent lava
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just mentioned it down with a dot

plucky turret
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Oh wait that's the guy who made the chara ability suggestion called cursed child

fervent lava
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messages go up fast yk

pallid cypress
plucky turret
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Let's see what HE has to present

fervent lava
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huh bud?

dim sonnet
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yea sure lets write in chat

plucky turret
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Because I used it enough

fervent lava
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i read ur suggestions and no cuz if an ice user just

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use his E

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the whole ufo is just gone

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i mean inside the ufo

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or hoj for example

pallid cypress
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keep bumping it man

fervent lava
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okay?

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wow such a great state to get against

pallid cypress
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u said u didnt read it

fervent lava
fervent lava
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VRO USE BRAINCLESS

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gosh

pallid cypress
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"add a portal"

fervent lava
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you said ways to get in the ufo

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i simply said tell me your ways

dim sonnet
pallid cypress
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which is why im asking if you even read it

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considering you're asking me

fervent lava
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"Allowing players to use skills if they successfully invade the UFO (Disabled if they get abducted by the tractor beam)" wdym invade the ufo? like if they escape?

fervent lava
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"Allowing players to mess around with the control pad, like clicking the self-destruct button or lockdown for example." fuck no

pallid cypress
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still not it

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keep trying

fervent lava
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thats just chaos

pallid cypress
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LOL

fervent lava
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when they escape the ufo why there shall be a reason to continue they are just gone

pallid cypress
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are you leaving it out on purpose?

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seems like you are

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i made 3 points, not two

fervent lava
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"Forcing UFO players to refuel by landing on the ground, rendering them vulnerable / allowing projectiles to damage the UFO to make it crash down." the whole point of it that its undestroyable unlike normal ufo which is a pain to use and you telling me like get some hoj and destroy it easily

pallid cypress
dim sonnet
plucky turret
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Your choice

dim sonnet
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considering you can also refuel at a safe place to not get insta invaded

pallid cypress
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If you keep third partying people by throwing prismatic bombs and red tractor beams, dont be surprised when those SAME people get pissed off and run over to your UFO while you're refueling

dim sonnet
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but you can be shot down

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so youre still vulnerable at the same time

pallid cypress
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simple as that

dim sonnet
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true

fervent lava
pallid cypress
dim sonnet
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you dont use it- it recharges

pallid cypress
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OR by forcing them to leave their UFO

dim sonnet
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you use it- it loses battery

dim sonnet
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guaranteed way to get jumped

pallid cypress
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they just have to be vulnerable

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current ufo is basically

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an instant engineer build

fervent lava
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it will be just one-time useable ufo

dim sonnet
fervent lava
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cuz surely they just rush you

dim sonnet
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if you mind your own business

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why would they?

fervent lava
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πŸ™

fervent lava
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aw people are way more toxic than letting you have fun

dim sonnet
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way more annoying

fervent lava
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like i was just grinding for hw candy with a ufo method

dim sonnet
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way easier to kill

fervent lava
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and some people locked on me to kill me

dim sonnet
fervent lava
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and yeah i just used the ufo not the beam or anything

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all i needed was ufo healing system and ufo's seat

dim sonnet
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thats the outomatic neuron instinct

fervent lava
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and someone randomly targeted me for the whole time in the server

dim sonnet
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because attackable core

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people want to attack attackable things

dim sonnet
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but not everyone will do that

fervent lava
# dim sonnet but not everyone will do that

we can't take chances as yall say since not everyone with ufo annoy people too like the most thing they would use is gravitiy beam and they just do it to meet with people but yeah still i dont think the community would nerf ufo mas like make it refuel able

glacial token
scarlet ferry
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number 2 is HORRIBLE