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[burnt holly]

double soap, no.

[native bronze]

No doubles

[junior arch]

even in this suggestion

[burnt holly]

Even then, stuff like Barrier E + Quantum Passive would exist, so no.

[junior arch]

in the limited abilities you gave examples for

theres a fucking loophole

Soda E + Time's E

guess what thats gonna do

you already know.

this just proves that the idea is flawed

and theres probably already a reason for this not being in the game

[burnt holly]

Pushback duringtime e startup! yay! so fair!

[junior arch]

?

no

its actually something worse

[burnt holly]

what could be worse bro

[junior arch]

you literally use Soda's E to propel yourself towards enemies

so that the Time Stop is unavoidable

[burnt holly]

oh. that's busted.

[junior arch]

DO I HAVE TO FREAKING EXPLAIN WHAT SODA DOES 😭😭

anyways

the suggestion creator ALSO somehow probably doesnt know what soda actually does

[burnt holly]

Heck, this would also completely invalidate stuff like Soap. Soap E + Barrier E would legit just be op as hell

[junior arch]

which is another reason why he shouldnt have posted this suggestion

[junior arch]

yeah

but Soap deserves to be invalidated

ts is so buns

BUT

stuff like Boomerang or Shift will also be invalidated

and they're alright abilities

[burnt holly]

If it didnt get sidetracked all the time it would be good

[junior arch]

no bro

if it had normal hitboxes

it'd be good

[native bronze]

Forgot to mention, no dimensional abilities so the game does not get blown up

[native bronze]

And to prevent stuff like this cooldowns should be increased

[junior arch]

that wouldnt solve the guaranteed kill

[sterile tinsel]

Raygun e and return e

And raygun q

Also

Rage q and alchemist e is gurranteed combo to death

With a speed pot

Also u can boost rage q speed

Which is also busted

[junior arch]

points system

[burnt holly]

grapple thing that pulls people to you + time e

also just imagine stuff like quantum passive + literally anything that gives an unavoidable punch bro

[junior arch]

so they'd find a way to balance- even if its a fucking hellish task

[sterile tinsel]

He didn't say how much points either cost

[junior arch]

yeah

but i'd only assume that Alch's E would cost around 7 - 8

[burnt holly]

Time E + soda E:

[junior arch]

yeah >:)

[burnt holly]

So while this is a neat concept, its just fuckin hell to make for the devs and the payout is legit 30 direct upgrades to abilities (such as giving time actual mobility instead of its useless reversal)

[sterile tinsel]

Pulse q + return q + plasma r

Fucking immortality

[junior arch]

ok that ones not gonna be possible loool

theres gonna be 10 billion loopholes

but not the obvious ones

[winged bison]

We r paying 400 robux not because of how op the ability is but how the ability has a variety of options you can use and its not even a finished ability they r still adding more to custom.

[sterile tinsel]

Midas e and card e

[junior arch]

yeah

that'd totally work

as he said midas E was 5

and card's E would likely be lower

[sterile tinsel]

I mean the midas parry

Midas q and card e

I think

[junior arch]

midas R.

[sterile tinsel]

Throw in return q

[sterile tinsel]

Midas r and card e

Functional immortality with good timing

If enough points return q too

Eait

WAIT

Js though of smth

[junior arch]

yeah?

[sterile tinsel]

Timestop e and barrier e

[hallow perch]

This will lead to some very, very nasty combos that I do not even want to imagine

[sterile tinsel]

Card e and midas r

[junior arch]

Time E + Soda

[hallow perch]

BH mas Q + time E

Alch mas E + bh mas E

1$ bullet vs 100000$ bullet

[winged bison]

godhand and uno

[native bronze]

If the cooldown is higher depending on the value I've mentioned stuff can get balanced, and this ability is also worth 400 robux, not ounches

[sterile tinsel]

Alch mas e will prolly cost a shit ton

Actual fuck it

[native bronze]

Alchemist needs a badge, read again

[sterile tinsel]

God punch e and barrier e

Gurranteed death

[junior arch]

you're making this worse for yourself

[winged bison]

doesnt make it a balanced ability though does it 😭

[hallow perch]

Ok so you just wiped out half the abilities, good job.

[sterile tinsel]

God punch e and barrier e

[native bronze]

The point of this chat is for people to elaborate and potentially make it better

[sterile tinsel]

Okay

[junior arch]

yeah, so you deflected my criticism?

[sterile tinsel]

Don't rework custom

[winged bison]

Literally blood God domain and bone (not mastery) would literally horrible

[sterile tinsel]

That's it

[junior arch]

without mentioning that it ONE SHOTS?!

[sterile tinsel]

Anyway I'm gonna make a rage mastery later y'all wanna see

[junior arch]

bye'

[native bronze]

I only proposed changes bruv

[opaque folio]

Lava e and bubble q 🤑

[sterile tinsel]

Bad ones at that

[junior arch]

what change did you "propose"

[junior arch]

thats honestly worse than current lava

[winged bison]

When has custom ever been OP if u dont like it u should of watched a previw of it before u bought it

Whole point of custom is VERSATALITY and a VARIETY OF MOVES u can use not just some Op ability if u want a p2w OP ability buy god hand

[native bronze]

Higher cooldowns to prevent the cycles u mentioned

[sterile tinsel]

God hand is ass

[junior arch]

hah. hah. hah. "WHEN HAS IT EVER BEEN OP"

[opaque folio]

Bubble q then lava e for undodgeable bubble q

[junior arch]

YOU REALLY ASKING THAT ONE

[native bronze]

Fr

[winged bison]

Compared to other abilities its rlly not that OP 😭

[opaque folio]

Since lave is fast you can continue the combo from the kb

[junior arch]

sorry, what? why would that solve the one shotting problem.

[junior arch]

really bro??

really????

[sterile tinsel]

Alchemist can do that for 12k punches and a dream

[winged bison]

ppl can just reset

[opaque folio]

Lava > alchemist speed potions

[junior arch]

unavoidable 50DMG, "not op"

noted ✅

[hallow perch]

Midas R + cards E + return Q

[winged bison]

Lava is so underrated lwk 💔

[junior arch]

return is badge bro

so its just midas and cardfs

:)

[hallow perch]

Right, he added that dumbass restriction

[opaque folio]

Grapple q and time e

[junior arch]

LOL

[sterile tinsel]

Taking my idea but adding return q

[hallow perch]

Grapple Q + anything

[junior arch]

hes the type of dude to put grapple Q less than 4

[sterile tinsel]

Anything that keeps someone in place for 3+ seconds / gurrantees a kb + time e

[junior arch]

wait lemme cook

[opaque folio]

Lava e and stardust r and void passive

[sterile tinsel]

He never said u can use passives

[opaque folio]

Oh

[junior arch]

Slime E, Glue E, Cards E

[winged bison]

what is disullosiuns acc cooking up, hes been typing for ages 😭

[hallow perch]

Plasma E + stardust E + berserker E

[junior arch]

no bro

Slime E, Glue E, Cards E

is so much better

[hallow perch]

That's evil

[sterile tinsel]

Barrier e + time e

[opaque folio]

Crafter e and grapple q

[hallow perch]

You're right

[junior arch]

its actually almost GUARANTEED that it falls under ten points

[junior arch]

badge

[opaque folio]

Jester q and lava e

[junior arch]

secret

[sterile tinsel]

No secretd either

Only point abilties

Wait

Can u use masteries

[native bronze]

So if i were to say that
-GP is not included (i initially wanted to mention this too)
-Cooldowns are higher depending in the value
-no masteries
will it all come to peace?

[junior arch]

HELL NO

[sterile tinsel]

No

Soda e and time e still exists

[hallow perch]

No it will not lmao

[winged bison]

lol no? 😭

[sterile tinsel]

Also shit like time e + barrier e

[junior arch]

IM GUNNA SPAM MY GLUE E, SLIME E, CARDS E COMBO

[opaque folio]

Lava e and plasma q and stardust r

[sterile tinsel]

Midas r + card e

[native bronze]

Bro this fuckass barrier😭

[opaque folio]

https://tenor.com/view/tik-tok-meme-waiting-wait-time-gif-16450082290173148616

[winged bison]

Bro ur reasoning for the suggestion is "I PAID 400 RBX AND ITS BUNS" and now ur nerfing it to the ground that wouldnt even make it worth 100 nevermind 400...

[sterile tinsel]

Didn't mention badges. Engineer e and barrier e for death zone

[hallow perch]

Your fault

[junior arch]

NERFING IT?

NERFING IT?

WHEN HES ADDING SODA E + TIME E

AND LIKE

[winged bison]

clearly he just nerfed the suggestion 😭

[junior arch]

SLIME E, GLUE E + CARDS E

[junior arch]

lol

barely bro

[sterile tinsel]

There's so many fucking combos that can gurrantee instakill it's not even funny

[junior arch]

SLIME E, GLUE E + CARDS E

[native bronze]

Lemme remind you of the last words I've put in that message

[winged bison]

I couldnt rlly care that much its still a horrible idea

[sterile tinsel]

Same excuse break in and steal things used to not balance the game

[junior arch]

SLIME E, GLUE E + CARDS E

[hallow perch]

Ok chat voting time
Do I hardfail react this suggestion

[junior arch]

wait ima cook smth else

[sterile tinsel]

YES

[hallow perch]

Noted

[junior arch]

oh yeah, Paladin E + Slime E

[winged bison]

does it even deserve it though lwk

[hallow perch]

3 votes

[winged bison]

its beyond hardfail atp 💔

[hallow perch]

Hardfail it is

[opaque folio]

https://discord.com/channels/922921165373202463/1427005996219236576

Better suggestion

[sterile tinsel]

Publicly execute the creator too

[hallow perch]

shameless advertising

Smh

[native bronze]

U french?

[sterile tinsel]

Sentence him to 500 hours of getting 300 soul streak ended by engineer

[opaque folio]

First time I seen a bad suggestion of a pink role

[junior arch]

WAOT

GUYS

[winged bison]

u rlly wanna put that under a suggestion with hard fail

[sterile tinsel]

I'm not disgusting

[junior arch]

BARRIER E + SNOW E

[native bronze]

Aight bet

[hallow perch]

Your suggestion gave me brain damage
So like, are the combos passive? Active?

[junior arch]

THIS IS SO BADASS

[hallow perch]

Ball factory

[opaque folio]

I will explain in the suggestion

[native bronze]

Top

[junior arch]

just like me frfr

[opaque folio]

Blank + blank equal use both at same time to use big attack

[sterile tinsel]

I'm a bottom not top

[opaque folio]

Blank without blank is passive

[opaque folio]

Yes and yes

[hallow perch]

[opaque folio]

Blank + blank = use both for big attack

Blank without blank is passive

[hallow perch]

The hell does that mean

[hallow perch]

So wait

Let me read your suggestion again

[native bronze]

The only reason why this is bad is bcz i did not think of every single combination under the fucking sun and now everyone takes me for some fucking psycho

[hallow perch]

So it turns out, meatshield deploy spawns 3 meatshields

[opaque folio]

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-try-not-to-laugh-gif-7682731162751353849

[hallow perch]

[opaque folio]

Yes with only hypnotise

I’m pretty sure

[hallow perch]

https://tenor.com/view/does-he-know-gif-17552966235424643644

[native bronze]

Imma be back with a less controversial one trust (someday)

[opaque folio]

Fixed it

I hate making massive suggestions

https://tenor.com/view/ninja-ninjaishyper-low-taper-fade-massive-crazy-gif-13735679314385451792

[hallow perch]

Also, buff R by NOT putting a super lengthy cooldown on your E and Q

[opaque folio]

That would lead to spamming

[hallow perch]

Also, you already have 80 max hp, why does hypnotise say that your max hp is lowered to 80

[hexed isle]

meteor E + barrier E

[hallow perch]

Make it not reset the cooldowns then

[opaque folio]

The ability used to have 100 max ho

Then I changed it

Then reverted it

[hallow perch]

Better fix that

[hallow perch]

Also 35% less debuff potency is super niche

[hexed isle]

and barrier plus quantum is a oneshot

[opaque folio]

I wanted it to have permanent status immunity but that would be too op

[opaque folio]

What should hypnotise passive be

[hallow perch]

Maybe I should personally rework the whole passive and combo thing because it give sme brain damage

OAR you could make the ability work like deviant

[native bronze]

I just remembered lava was the best ability when freeze used to one shot

[opaque folio]

When freeze was one shot aw meta was very different

[hallow perch]

does he know

[opaque folio]

Instant shift

Nuclear mech

[junior arch]

nah it wasnt

[opaque folio]

Bionic bull shit kb

[junior arch]

Freeze was better than lava

as it one shotted

[native bronze]

Ik but it was against those

[junior arch]

barely

maybe Spring was the best

actually no

its plasma

its plasma

its always been fucking plasma

plasma users should-\

[native bronze]

Lava removed the one shot effect from freeze

[opaque folio]

Elite ball knowledge if you know plasma “punch” immunity

[native bronze]

Well yes but 100000 punches dont come from nowhere

[junior arch]

and what if Freeze hits them first

[junior arch]

yes it does lol

[native bronze]

What

[junior arch]

ermm technically

lore wise

punches are a form spiritual energy

so like

it kind of does

[native bronze]

Bro

Who tf brought lore in this😭

[junior arch]

Lava is OP af rn

[opaque folio]

POV you punched a plasma user and you got one shotted because of their “punch immunity” tech

[junior arch]

LOOOL

[native bronze]

Throwback to the old mushroom king (tho I'm not sure if it was immune to plasma)

[opaque folio]

I really hope they don’t nerf lava before spring

[junior arch]

guesss whatttt

GUESSSS WHATTTT

SPRING WAS NERFED BEFORE LAVAAA

SO LIKE

ITS FAIR GAME VRUDDY

[opaque folio]

Spring wasn’t “nerfed”

[junior arch]

lemme pull it up rq

[opaque folio]

Must of been the wind

[junior arch]

awww : (

AWWWWWWWW

LOWER RANGE??

LOWER RANGE????/

WHAT IS THAT I SEE?

[opaque folio]

The passive and combo thing is unique and idk how to make it like deviant

[junior arch]

LEMME PULL UP THE OTHER NERF

[native bronze]

Yea im dipping

[opaque folio]

Lava is fair though