PALADIN MASTERY BALANCEMENT | Ability Wars | Page 1

rich swallow Sep 27, 2025, 4:32 PM

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GENERAL

So paladin mastery is cool but sometime you can't access the dimension with the boss.
It's a very cool mastery but the boss is too easy so make it a little harder.

CHANGES/BUFFS

Make the hammer trow do something like 15 damage and emit electric aura like overcharge in idle and while trowing and when hitting something it will emit some electric particles.
Make the normal hammer do 15 damage but make it attack slower like crusher but just a little faster.
Make the charge enable when you punch with the shield on and make it faster or that you can change direction like the "Q" for rage.
Make the hammer throw faster (while flying).
"R" concept: It will cast 1 thunder from a cloud above it's closest target and deal 10-15 damage with AOE (like in the boss fight) and it will have a 1-2 second wind-up and it will have a 20-30 second cooldown.
Make the magical shield be abble to block punches as like god punch or dos and give it more durability and if it breaks you will use the normal shield and the magical one will regen in 15-20 seconds.

NERFS

Make all the cooldowns of all abilities higher by 2.5-5%.
Make the Hammer throw have a limited range (100-150 studs) and make it like pulse projectile that it bounces on walls and when you click again the "E" it comes back (like it already does).

CONCLUSION
Tell me what i should change in this suggestion.

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this is for later...

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this is for later..

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this is for later.

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@spare vine

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@muted patrol

muted patrol Sep 27, 2025, 4:34 PM

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what more do you want FROM ME

rich swallow Sep 27, 2025, 4:34 PM

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idk you are very good at critizing

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so what do you think?

muted patrol Sep 27, 2025, 4:36 PM

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I don't have strong opinions about paladin mas yet so don't bother me

rich swallow Sep 27, 2025, 4:36 PM

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ok

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uh what bump name could i make for this

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like 🛡️ DEFENSIVE BUMP🛡️ ?

spare vine Sep 27, 2025, 4:42 PM

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just delete the shield buffs and were good

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maybe except the gp interaction

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nerf the shield

ocean jungle Sep 27, 2025, 4:43 PM

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tribal narwhal Sep 27, 2025, 4:46 PM

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you frogot the line:

rich swallow Sep 27, 2025, 4:46 PM

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frogot?

tribal narwhal Sep 27, 2025, 4:47 PM

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"you should BUFF more than you NERF."

rich swallow Sep 27, 2025, 4:47 PM

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oh

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well it's like a little reowrk

tribal narwhal Sep 27, 2025, 4:47 PM

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ok

rich swallow Sep 27, 2025, 4:47 PM

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rework*

tribal narwhal Sep 27, 2025, 4:47 PM

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john

rich swallow Sep 28, 2025, 7:47 AM

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🛡️ paladin bump?🛡️

rich swallow Sep 28, 2025, 8:53 AM

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@obtuse prairie

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just don't ruin this one too

obtuse prairie Sep 28, 2025, 8:54 AM

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this is not good

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sorry

rich swallow Sep 28, 2025, 8:54 AM

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how

obtuse prairie Sep 28, 2025, 8:57 AM

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Make the hammer trow do something like 15 damage and emit electric aura like overcharge in idle and while trowing and when hitting something it will emit some electric particles.

is this really a change? are you suggesting to add stuns or smth?

Make the normal hammer do 15 damage but make it attack slower like crusher but just a little faster.

it already does 15 damage. this is utter BS, isnt palamass supposed to be balanced around combos? (so having the M1s be slow, would suck ass)

Make the charge enable when you punch with the shield on and make it faster or that you can change direction like the "Q" for rage.

fine

Make the hammer throw faster (while flying).

what is any of this supposed to mean. how does the hammer throw while flying.

"R" concept: It will cast 1 thunder from a cloud above it's closest target and deal 10-15 damage with AOE (like in the boss fight) and it will have a 1-2 second wind-up and it will have a 20-30 second cooldown.

this is such a mid move and doesnt synergize well with the others.

Make the magical shield be abble to block punches as like god punch or dos and give it more durability and if it breaks you will use the normal shield and the magical one will regen in 15-20 seconds.

i don't agree with having two shields. palamass is already one of the strongest.

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once again, this "balancing" suggestion isn't thought out around fun gameplay and how the abilities you balance actually feel to play

rich swallow Sep 28, 2025, 9:01 AM

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"R" fits bc you use it when the opponent is ragdolled

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so perfect to do combos

obtuse prairie Sep 28, 2025, 9:01 AM

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rich swallow "R" fits bc you use it when the opponent is ragdolled

okay maybe

rich swallow Sep 28, 2025, 9:02 AM

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puppet deals 5 damage with shield on

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...

obtuse prairie Sep 28, 2025, 9:02 AM

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i just thought it sounded lame and jank

obtuse prairie Sep 28, 2025, 9:02 AM

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rich swallow puppet deals 5 damage with shield on

well thats puppet

rich swallow Sep 28, 2025, 9:02 AM

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and quantum does 10

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😭

obtuse prairie Sep 28, 2025, 9:02 AM

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give puppet something man

obtuse prairie Sep 28, 2025, 9:02 AM

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rich swallow and quantum does 10

wtf

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why would quantum bypass the shields

rich swallow Sep 28, 2025, 9:02 AM

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also puppet does

obtuse prairie Sep 28, 2025, 9:02 AM

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are you even testing with the blue shield?

rich swallow Sep 28, 2025, 9:02 AM

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i did

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and the shield after it breaks it doens't work

obtuse prairie Sep 28, 2025, 9:03 AM

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Quantum = 15 M1 DMG
Puppet = 17 M1 DMG

rich swallow Sep 28, 2025, 9:03 AM

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you have to wait

obtuse prairie Sep 28, 2025, 9:03 AM

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are your values messed up

rich swallow Sep 28, 2025, 9:03 AM

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blud

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quantum does 20

obtuse prairie Sep 28, 2025, 9:03 AM

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rich swallow and the shield after it breaks it doens't work

which is good

obtuse prairie Sep 28, 2025, 9:03 AM

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rich swallow quantum does 20

no it does not

rich swallow Sep 28, 2025, 9:03 AM

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and puppet does 1

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5

obtuse prairie Sep 28, 2025, 9:03 AM

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ill test it again

obtuse prairie Sep 28, 2025, 9:03 AM

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rich swallow and puppet does 1

puppet does 17\

rich swallow Sep 28, 2025, 9:03 AM

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uh

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since when

obtuse prairie Sep 28, 2025, 9:03 AM

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if puppet does 15

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i'll call it ass

rich swallow Sep 28, 2025, 9:04 AM

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it's 2 damage

obtuse prairie Sep 28, 2025, 9:04 AM

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rich swallow it's 2 damage

2 DMG is a lot, when its all puppet has

rich swallow Sep 28, 2025, 9:04 AM

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fair

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btw what should i change iyo

obtuse prairie Sep 28, 2025, 9:05 AM

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ok'

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Quantum deals more than 15

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but def less than 20

rich swallow Sep 28, 2025, 9:05 AM

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what does the wiki say btw

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i never checked it

obtuse prairie Sep 28, 2025, 9:05 AM

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checking

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yeah

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i think it has the old values

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cause ts is NOT twenty damage

rich swallow Sep 28, 2025, 9:06 AM

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maybe 17-18

obtuse prairie Sep 28, 2025, 9:06 AM

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yeah

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Puppet and Quantum prob have the same M1 DMG

rich swallow Sep 28, 2025, 9:07 AM

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idk quantum feels to do more

obtuse prairie Sep 28, 2025, 9:07 AM

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rich swallow idk quantum feels to do more

cause of the punch effects

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and the finisher

rich swallow Sep 28, 2025, 9:07 AM

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maybe

obtuse prairie Sep 28, 2025, 9:07 AM

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fine ill test it

obtuse prairie Sep 28, 2025, 9:11 AM

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rich swallow maybe

yeah

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Quantum doesnt deal 20

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but its close

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and Puppet takes 7 hits

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so its definitely NOT 17

rich swallow Sep 28, 2025, 9:11 AM

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19?

obtuse prairie Sep 28, 2025, 9:11 AM

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puppets definitely lower than quantum

obtuse prairie Sep 28, 2025, 9:11 AM

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rich swallow 19?

what- why would taking 7 hits up the damage?

rich swallow Sep 28, 2025, 9:12 AM

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wait wdym

obtuse prairie Sep 28, 2025, 9:12 AM

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Quantum deals less than 20, but more than Puppet

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Puppet does not deal 17

rich swallow Sep 28, 2025, 9:13 AM

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100:7=14.285...

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you mean like this?

obtuse prairie Sep 28, 2025, 9:13 AM

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its a lil more than 14

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cause of player healing

rich swallow Sep 28, 2025, 9:14 AM

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fair

obtuse prairie Sep 28, 2025, 9:14 AM

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but im certain they had a decent chunk of HP on that final hit

rich swallow Sep 28, 2025, 9:14 AM

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do a wall combo so it's harder to regen

obtuse prairie Sep 28, 2025, 9:14 AM

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ill test puppet again

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yeah it might be around 17 honestly

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it just feels low

rich swallow Sep 28, 2025, 9:16 AM

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maybe

obtuse prairie Sep 28, 2025, 9:19 AM

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honestly it might be 20

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i think i was wrong

rich swallow Sep 28, 2025, 9:20 AM

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hehe

slow shuttle Sep 28, 2025, 10:05 AM

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rich swallow **GENERAL** - So paladin mastery is cool but sometime you can't access the dime...

make the ability more useful against insta kills and also more like the boss? sign me up

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but yeah, there shouldn't be two shields

rich swallow Sep 28, 2025, 11:28 AM

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😄

rich swallow Sep 29, 2025, 3:29 PM

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Bump

rich swallow Sep 29, 2025, 8:27 PM

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@leaden garden

spare vine Sep 30, 2025, 1:09 PM

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obtuse prairie and Puppet takes 7 hits

Just get an alt/friend with bounty hunter mastery

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It's that simple

obtuse prairie Sep 30, 2025, 7:45 PM

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spare vine Just get an alt/friend with bounty hunter mastery

what

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huh

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what are you talking about

rich swallow Sep 30, 2025, 8:05 PM

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Yes

spare vine Sep 30, 2025, 8:32 PM

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obtuse prairie what

bounty hunter mastery can chek their target's hp

#PALADIN MASTERY BALANCEMENT