🧲 Magnet Mastery rock change (plus other stuff)

[candid kraken]

Having gotten magnet mastery fairly recently, it's a lot of fun to use. There are some small but VERY annoying issues with it though that make it feel way worse. This suggestion has some ideas on little ways to fix them to make them more satisfying. YAPFEST INCOMING

Idea 1:
If any of these were to be added, I'd want it to be this. When doing E+Q to summon a rock, it feels really fiddly to unpress a key so that you can have the opposite effect from the other key. It's a wierd control that makes Magnet way more unfun to use. Also, if you accidentally mess up by lifting your other finger, you lose your rock and your precious charge.
My idea to fix this is to have it that when you unpress E+Q, the rock is just dropped in front of you. Then, when you use E or Q on this rock, it has its respective effect.
This would remove the annoying little mess ups with the rock, while also making it a lot more dynamic to use by having the ability to camp around it for better control of the direction you shoot it. It wouldn't work like rocks that have been affected by E already, so it wouldn't damage anyone who touches it while it is still on the ground. I know what some of you are thinking, that this is too op since you can hold onto a rock without using charge, so it should probably despawn after a few seconds.

Idea 2:
Give rocks collision! It feels weird that you just walk through a solid rock, especially if you compare it to Stone. This one also ties into idea 1 since being able to set down a rock in front of you and stand on it would give Magnet some much needed mobility. (potential tech where you can stand on a rock and use e to ride on it?)

Idea 3:
Make Q redirect projectiles as well. Obviously this would just kill you immediately, but it would be f u n n y. It just also feels wierd that its inconsistent with the repel.

extra: please fix e not redirecting fast projectiles and rocks getting flung from clipping in the ground and revert the change to attracting it feels off

[uneven oriole]

I agree with idea 1, idea 2 sucks as it's not so creative (copies mystic), and idea 3, like idea 2, copies deflect.

[edgy ginkgo]

object show woa

[sick karma]

Magnet mastery actually did pull projectiles

But due to old barrier q

Anyone trapped in it

Would get infinite combod

I think it would work good now

With no barrier q projectile

Not much things infinitely pierce anymore

And have large hitboxe

[edgy ginkgo]

it used to be insane

i enjoyed the bouncing it with brickbattler tho

[candid kraken]

uh

did you get that mixed up

[sick karma]

How does idea 3 copy deflect

AT ALL

Deflect can’t pull

[edgy ginkgo]

also solid rock is just gnna cause too much bugs

[sick karma]

Deflect is actually the opposite of pull

[candid kraken]

how does rocks having collision copy mystic

[uneven oriole]

sorry i meant in the sense that it deflects projectiles

[sick karma]

Doesn’t cause any with stone q

[edgy ginkgo]

deflect pushes away projectiles the same as this

[edgy ginkgo]

stone q is giant

[sick karma]

Magnet mastery already does this

[uneven oriole]

mystic orbs man.

[edgy ginkgo]

small fast rock dude

[sick karma]

And did it before deflect

[candid kraken]

they what

[uneven oriole]

ah i didnt know this

i apologize

[candid kraken]

also PLEASE elaborate on this

[uneven oriole]

Mystic's ability includes a charge meter. It increases every punch you get. The higher your charge, the more dmg E will do, BUT if you use Q, it spawns orbs that orbit you. Maximum of 6 orbs. Anybody who touches them gets hit slightly upwards but not away.

[candid kraken]

and that is related to standing on a rock...?

[uneven oriole]

No? I believe you said that rocks that orbit the magnet mastery would be able to damage people instead of doing nothing

[candid kraken]

that's already how magnet mastery works and it's also not what i said

[uneven oriole]

Really? Sorry for the confusion then

[candid kraken]

could you copy and paste the part that you got confused by?

[uneven oriole]

Give rocks collision! It feels weird that you just walk through a solid rock, especially if you compare it to Stone

[uneven oriole]

Just to clarify, I don't fully understand how magnet mastery works (should've said this sooner) because I don't have it BUT I know how people use it

[candid kraken]

magnet mastery is a pretty confusing one tbf

[uneven oriole]

So is it worth getting ?

[candid kraken]

well it's fun

[uneven oriole]

All I needed to hear

[candid kraken]

but the obtainment is hell

[uneven oriole]

There's always a catch huh.

[candid kraken]

like it's difficult even with friend farming

[uneven oriole]

How is this so?

[uneven oriole]

I mean why is it difficult even with friend farming?

Shouldn't it be easy?

[candid kraken]

well

you have to die in between every save you do

plus the timing is fairly annoying

[uneven oriole]

What

[candid kraken]

this is only while friend farming btw but

[uneven oriole]

oh

[candid kraken]

doing it WITHOUT friend farming is on a WHOLE different level of evil

like i could probably get dos 300 before saving ONE person without friend farming

[uneven oriole]

Welp, I probably won't even try then

Unless magnet mastery gets a surprise rework or sum, I am not attempting that

[quiet yacht]

Magnet mastery is so nerfed dude

Before you could use Q on a barrier user and make a tornado

[candid kraken]

oh uh

to clarify idea 3

when i said have it redirect attacks towards you

i meant it would work like brickbattler where you can redirect attacks but the attacks dont become yours so you can still be damaged by them

[candid kraken]

imma just clarify this rq

[candid kraken]

when you use magnet mastery's e projectile it makes a rock that, if it doesnt hit anybody, just sits there

and it doesnt have collision

even though it would be kinda cool if you could stand on it

[quiet yacht]

Ok

[uneven oriole]

Huh, so it doesn't despawn or anything?

sounds like a glitch

[candid kraken]

it does despawn

[sick karma]

It does after a while

Like

20 secs

[candid kraken]

but theres a fair amount of time

and it can still do damage while its there

[uneven oriole]

oh

[uneven oriole]

oh

[sick karma]

Also the orbiting rocks are actually better than mystic q

Cause the rocks itself dont need to hit

The rocks are pure visual

But the area of hitting is just punch aura

[candid kraken]

• the attract effect

[sick karma]

Using the rocks disables pulling

[candid kraken]

oh

thats dumb

[sick karma]

The field is also visual in that case

Like 99% of magnet mastery rock orbit is pure visual

[candid kraken]

it only lasts like 2 seconds anyway they could've atleast given it that

[sick karma]

True

[junior mulch]

I like idea 1 and 3 also hate when the rock flings for no reason bro

[candid kraken]

that would be idea 4 aka extra

[junior mulch]

Yes make the rocks go in straight line instead of flinging

[lime mural]

yea fixing rock jank would be nice

it's really funny when the rocks fling themselves off the map somehow

[candid kraken]

also the magnet mas revamp just feels so bad

like it feels off

unsatisfying to use

and it feels like the stuff barely works

[junior mulch]

Yes it feel weird I say mostly it the pull that feels weird and the rock fragments u have around u drain so fast bro I like the old pull bc that how start my combo the current pull is so weak

[rocky totem]

Malice

Hallow purple

[sick karma]

Malice got nefed TO THE GROUND btw

E does like 10 damage and insane knock back

Prob enough knock back to get you out of the sphere

[rocky totem]

Ok but purple...

[sick karma]

Cause magnet doesn’t pull ragdolled players

[sick karma]

Purple is its own problem tbh

[rocky totem]

Stone would be silly

[sick karma]

40 damage projectile is insane

stone

Ehh

Projectile is so big it’ll probably pull the magnet mastery user backwards

Like quite litterally pushing them while it’s being pulled

Most likely leading to void

[lapis juniper]

@blazing pewter

[kindred orchid]

Wow object show

[idle scarab]

15 damage*