New malice additions

[spare otter]

I believe malice is REALLY get outshined by average abilities so here's some additions I thought of

[E]

• a different use by holding it, making it deal much more damage but be a melee instead, the longer it is held the more damage and bigger the hitbox and can be, indicated by flames aggressive bursting out of the blade.

[Q]

• by holding Q you will make a pose, making you much slower but your pumpkins will burst into flames turning onto fire balls, though if you stop holding or get hit they will disappear adding risk.

The pumpkins are faster in this state and inflect burn.

New ability:
It is time to ride for death

[R]

• You would summon a headless horse made of flames that you could mount. with a startup animation (ex: the user thrusting the ground with their blade opening a gate that the horse emerges from), when mounted you can't use basic punches but your abilities get shorter cooldowns and better damage, though a single hit would knock you off the horse and the horse dies in 6 hits before going on cooldown, using the ability again while off the horse makes the horse return to you in a straight line of movement but would stop if either of you gets hit.

• holding the ability will make it disappear and put it on cooldown.

• Using E while on the horse will always make it melee but it has a way shorter cooldowns allowing you to combo, you miss, the cooldown will be longer.

Horse movement : the horse is faster than a normal player and can accelerate, but has a slower turn rate and is extremely slow when turning backwards, when reaching max acceleration it would make the horse hotter, inflecting burn to people near it and leaving a trail that deals dmg.

Drawbacks
The user will always have the burn effect while on the horse

New passive:

Burn: disables regeneration and makes enemies more vurnable to damage. Does not stack
Inflected by:
Close range E (any varient off the horse)
Enchanted Q

[strong pollen]

nah

[spare otter]

Eh where did I go wrong

[strong pollen]

i forgot but no

[spare otter]

;--;

Would really appreciate feedback

[strong pollen]

+_

hmm

[spare otter]

New ability too overpowered or annoying?

Due to it being ranged?

[strong pollen]

hmmm

[spare otter]

Also thought of a passive

Check it out

Pretty basic tho

[strong pollen]

why

[spare otter]

What do you mean why

[strong pollen]

hm

what do i mean?

well of course, how could i but know?

for there doesn't have to be a reason for all

if you could have made it, if i could have made it, we could have survived

goodbye.
signing off, saesar salad.

[strong pollen]

greed

[spare otter]

???

[strong pollen]

?

sins

[spare otter]

I did????

[spare otter]

Bump

[lusty prism]

Q holding leads to running

not good.

E is an amazing idea though

since it encourages close range

although I fear the combo of strong Melee and Strong range makes it too good

[spare otter]

But if you run you'd lose on out taking advantage on the burn effect

The burn effect makes the enemy more vurnable to damage

So

you gotta find the sweet spot to use it without it getting canceled

@lusty prism do you think it would be better if the pumpkins barely do any damage but inflect the burn effect

so it encourages closing the distance

[lusty prism]

...hmmm

do not lower the dmg

but keep it same as normal malice

but add burning

😄

or just barely slightly lower

I like this idea now

I see it was really thought it

[spare otter]

also fireball's are faster than pumpkins

So it's meant to be a quick attack

[lusty prism]

as a good mix of bad range and strong melee

which is what I say is the best thing

possible

although I may be personally biased

i'll get somebody with my level intelligence in here rq

[spare otter]

What do you think of the third new ability tho ?

I think I should add some sort of drawback ngl

[lusty prism]

it's weird

it does need a drawback imo

[rare lodge]

prretty coolio

[lusty prism]

agreed

[spare otter]

though one hit from an enemy would knock you off

[lusty prism]

but like

[spare otter]

so it's gonna be weak against other ranged abilities

[lusty prism]

can't you run with it

[spare otter]

Can't use Ranged E on horse

And q has horrible dmg

[lusty prism]

but like

think about this

you're low

and you horse away

and then Q comes back

[spare otter]

Oh yeah that would be annoying

[lusty prism]

then you get off

use it

[spare otter]

Maybe giving it a start-up?

[lusty prism]

then E them

yeah

start up is what might help

[spare otter]

What about making it so the horse has to accelerate

[lusty prism]

I

LOVE

ACCELERATION

TYPE SHIT

[spare otter]

I have convinced an idea most ingenious

Making the horse barely faster than a normal player but can accelerate if you keep going

The faster you go the harder it is to turn tho

Whatcha think?

@lusty prism and like you gotta find the sweet spot of acceleration to keep doing an E combo

since E is gonna be like the horse m1

A heavier m1 kinda thing

[lusty prism]

I like it

this is

very tough

to make though

I would assume

and the biggest ability improvement of all time

[spare otter]

yeah

[lusty prism]

including masteries

so

Maybe dial back the final ability, to make it semi realistic

[spare otter]

Do we even have any other abilities that have a mode switch like this?

oh wait

[lusty prism]

uh

[spare otter]

Hoj does

[lusty prism]

right

it does

but like

malice is another halloween ability

not even the hardest to get

so

idk if it NEEDS this

or deserves it

[spare otter]

I think it deserves some kind of buff it's the og Halloween ability.

and it got done dirty with nerfs

Though I am not sure

To this extent

[lusty prism]

ig yeah

[spare otter]

The whole horse thing might be ridiculous

[lusty prism]

fair enough

YEAHH

[spare otter]

though I think the new varients for E and Q are pretty reasonable?

[lusty prism]

save horse thing for another halloween ability, and like call it the horse man

or smth

[spare otter]

Nothing changes but you get more options to fight with

[lusty prism]

also yeah

the E and Q are reasonable and cool

[spare otter]

It's actually inspired by limbus company lmfao

[lusty prism]

uninspired

-1000 aura

[spare otter]

Ever heard of "Dullahan"

[lusty prism]

ruined the suggestion

-10/10 now

[spare otter]

OH C'MON

[lusty prism]

LOL

[spare otter]

IT JUST GAVE ME THE IDEA

TO MAKE THE HORSE HEADLESS

NOTHING ELSE IS TAKEN FROM LIMBUS

TvT

[lusty prism]

fineeee

make horse men of the apocalypse ability or smth

for a new suggestion

you seem to be good at suggestions

[spare otter]

This is my first

[spare otter]

won't this one get deleted if I make that?

[spare otter]

@lusty prism I made some changes

[lusty prism]

Aight

[spare otter]

Lmk whatcha think

[pale elbow]

What's next, does it make killed people rize from the dead with T?? 😭

[spare otter]

Shhh

[burnt torrent]

bro is not sancho

[pale elbow]

Whats next, static has broken wings to fly?? 😭

[burnt torrent]

wait is this js

wild hunt if he was burn

[pale elbow]

They need to add vamp mas

Wait no

[burnt torrent]

event abilities are never gonna get masteries sadly

[pale elbow]

Wild hunt if he just put Cathy's corpse on a bodysack

[bitter sonnet]

Vampire mastery? Yeah never going to happen

They even said it themselves

[pale elbow]

A person can dream

[bitter sonnet]

It would be nice to see static return, I miss that ability

[pale elbow]

How heroic...

[bitter sonnet]

Yeah but, just wanted to say it

[pale elbow]

Let's me burrow like a rabbit

And punch peoples feet hitboxes

[bitter sonnet]

Static

But reqorked

Reworked*

[pale elbow]

Make the E ability infinite but you're fully blind at 100% charge and have to dissonate with the static to see players

[bitter sonnet]

Lol

I ait

Wait*

WAIT

[pale elbow]

And lose hp overtime for every person punched

[bitter sonnet]

I ACTUALLY HAVE A COOL IDEA FOR IT

WHAT IF

[pale elbow]

We are not making static a einged creature

Winged

[bitter sonnet]

YOU KNOW THAT ONE GAME THAT IS ALL STATIC BUT YOU HAVE TO KEEP MOVING TO SEE THINGS? AND YOU CAN’T TAKE SCREENSHOTS BECAUSE IT’LL JUST BE PURE STATIC?

What if

We make it like over 50k punches and it has that

In some way

Like

You said the E ability should be infinite

But with a catch

What if instead of infinite, it’s a projectile or something like the bounty paper that goes for the nearest person

Or it’s fixed around you

And in a 15 stud radius around you, players have to constantly move so they can see what’s near them

[rare lodge]

woah...

[grim oxide]

the r sounds weird but the e and q hold thingy would make malice actually good

[spare otter]

You want me to explain it?

It's like a mode Switch

Like hoj

But not really

[grim oxide]

dw i understood it

what I meant was that it was an unique concept

[spare otter]

Bump

[spare otter]

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[spare otter]

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[spare otter]

Bump

[spare otter]

I am stuck on 26 likes 💔

[untold mauve]

UP!

Malice need buffs

[spare otter]

óiaoia

[spare otter]

ooaia

[woven beacon]

I honestly think they should remodel malice and make it more of an actual melee

[spare otter]

eh don't think so I think malice would be great as a hybrid

[spare otter]

For fellas too lazy to scroll

[spare otter]

Bump

Halloween getting closer guys c'mon upvote this

[spare otter]

Heed my calls. Upvoters.

[split girder]

i think ythis is really good but change horse to like 4 hits

[bold hare]

arent malice sweats op enough?💔

[spare otter]

what the hell is a malice sweat?

Nobody uses malice since the nerf.

[bold hare]

lucky you

my servers do

[spare otter]

I have never seen someone use malice in MONTHS

[bold hare]

spoiled😔

[spare otter]

Either way what makes you think malice users are too strong?

[bold hare]

not users

its the ppl who are good with it

[spare otter]

yeah those are users

so

What do they do

What makes it strong?

[bold hare]

its like their slash has a 3 second cooldown and their pumpkins do hella damage

[spare otter]

I have a feeling you never fought a malice user..

[bold hare]

i have actualy

many times

its the only type of players who target me for breathing

[spare otter]

Because the pumpkin don't even do that much damage

Actually

[bold hare]

exactky

[spare otter]

They are one of the weakest attacks in the whole game

In terms of damage

[bold hare]

yet for some reason it hurts me very much

[spare otter]

ur just tripping malice is buns

[bold hare]

like itl tickle anyone else but hit me woth a bus

[bold hare]

against a magnet mastery yea

[spare otter]

How long ago have you fought a malice

[bold hare]

2 days ago

saw one today and i swear he was plotting agaisnt me

[spare otter]

I'ma make a pravites server rq so I can proof to you that you're just overreacting

I have azure malice.

[bold hare]

r U a malice sweat

[bold hare]

what does the colour mater

[spare otter]

It used to give buffs, not sure if it still dors

Check dms for ps link

@bold hare

[bold hare]

weird

prolly does then

idk what colour it was but it hurted

[candid tide]

i use malice bro

[spare otter]

Bump

How mfs feel dropping a ✔️ instead of a 👍 :

[spare otter]

Wake up

[harsh sun]

bump

[wraith pond]

This seems quite balanced

👍

[rigid prairie]

Maybe this might be true

[spare otter]

First person to say this...

A lot of people think it needs more balancing

unless you're being sarcastic :<

[wraith pond]

My only question is about the acceleration

[spare otter]

Yeah what about it?

[wraith pond]

Would it be like Clash Royale where you need to move a certain number of tiles?

Or in this case studs

[spare otter]

well yeah kinda?

You just need to keep moving without stopping

or going backwards

To keep building up speed

There is plenty games out there with acceleration on Roblox

[wraith pond]

How many stages of speed is there?

[spare otter]

It just keeps increasing the more you move there is no stages.

you move it, goes up slowly

and at a certain threshold it starts burning

Does that clear things up?

[wraith pond]

Base walk speed is 20(I think) how fast is the max speed?

[spare otter]

I left it up for interpretation.

Didn't wanna give specific numbers for anything

Just how they work and what they do

But I'd say it's gonna be faster than alchemist

[wraith pond]

Oh okay 👍

[spare otter]

At the trade off of turn rate of course

it can't turn easily so it has to be really fast to be decent

[wraith pond]

Overall it's a decent 8/10

[spare otter]

:D

Any suggestions to hit that 10/10?

[wraith pond]

Not at the moment, I'll think about it though.

[wraith pond]

What about holding back and the ability on the horse would make it stop it's acceleration and holding the ability off the horse makes it despawn

You know like in botw and totk how if you hold back on a horse while it's at it's max speed it would stop. Actually just make it so once you're at a certain speed and you hold back you stop the acceleration so you wouldn't have to add another button press

[glossy jetty]

THIS SUGGESTION IS AMAZING but specify damage and cooldowns of the reworked abilities

[velvet crown]

Good suggestion but after malice gets some real nerfs

Right now malice is like very strong right now

[prime mist]

malice is already stupidly op they'd have to nerf it some to add this

[spare otter]

How's malice op.

[prime mist]

have you ever been in a server with 3 of them?

ITS AIDS

[spare otter]

That doesn't mean it's op, it just means it's annoying as shit to catch strays

I've saw it happen before

[prime mist]

all they do is snipe you from on edge of the map to the other, while you are fighting some1

[spare otter]

Catching strays from a malice is annoying af

But malice itself isn't op

[prime mist]

thats pretty much it's whole play style

[spare otter]

this suggestion gives more melee options...

TvT

[prime mist]

ontop of the ranged options though

[spare otter]

I am trying to encourage getting upclose

[prime mist]

and it most likely wouldn't change people being cringelords

[spare otter]

which are absolutely ass in terms of damage

and they can't use their ranged on the horsey

so dw about them running on the horsey

[prime mist]

sure then i guess

i'll like, but only to get it off that god forsaken number.

[spare otter]

Lmfao

[spare otter]

What makes you think malice is strong?

at best it's an annoying zoner.

[velvet crown]

Its insane knockback

And damage

Trust me

If you can utulize malice

Its nuts

[spare otter]

Damage is not that good I don't know what you're talking about.

[spare otter]

That's true

the knockback is it's strong suit

[velvet crown]

Like 25+ damage on mellee

Also

Pumpkins are get free out of jail card for some abilities

[hasty rune]

This is perfect for my wild hunt heathcliff cosplay

[spare otter]

read the text under
"New ability"

:D.

[prime mist]

imo it's not a zoner ability it's a across map ranged ability the way people play it currently

mummy is the real halloween zoner

[spare otter]

This reminds me of those annoying meteors that hide and just snipe you

And Bounty hunters mas

All these abilities have massive range

they're annoying ash when they start playing dirty

[somber dock]

Cool

Let buff god punch

[slim wigeon]

we are not buffing malice

get outta here

[glossy jetty]

it's a rework

😭

he reworked the E making it a melee ability which is great since the main problem with malice is the E's knockback which suggests a passive playstyle

[slim wigeon]

no? it just changes E if you’re holding it

otherwise it stays the same

literally said “here’s some additions”

it’s just adding more stuff to malice, not nerfing it or reworking it in any way

[glossy jetty]

it also changes the Q's visuals and adds the R

[spare otter]

First ❌

No way

[spare otter]

It's additions

[glossy jetty]

still changes most of the ability

[spare otter]

It adds to it

It doesn't change anything about the base

[glossy jetty]

what about the E and the Q

?

[spare otter]

they're varients.

[jaunty notch]

Random ahh horse

Malice doesnt need random mobility because yes

Other than that eh suggestion

[spare otter]

the horse is Halloween related tho 💔

I mean someone told me that the horse could be it's own ability

like horsemen of the apocalypse and etc

[jaunty notch]

Then again it’s too out of place

Malice has a pumpkin sword, summons pumpkins

And now it summons a horse

[vivid sentinel]

make it a horse sword then

[hoary junco]

give the horse a jack o lantern head

[jaunty notch]

Also again

Malice doesnt need mobility

[spare otter]

Scroll

[somber dock]

Hmmm