Opinions on DOS being removed

[tired burrow]

Dos is just overall annoying

Annoying to play as during starting stages

Annoying to play against

Annoying to have in a server

[primal gust]

Dos fun

[slow wyvern]

ngl i'd be glad

fuck you DoS users
i stop hard-targeting you for 1 second and all of a sudden there's a 40 walkspeed oneshot in the server

[rigid zinc]

its just sum ability

[crystal gyro]

ngl js get good

dos is a major part of this game

its a killstreak ability after all

[valid dune]

3rd most annoying ability

[rose mountain]

I've said this in a previous post, but the main problem with dos is that's a huge stat stick, and it has barely any counterplay

The biggest threat to dos is alchemist mas (and unmas alch) which, as I've said before, are also big stat sticks

[viral delta]

Skill issues most dos are garbage but when It get to skilled users that where it change they are the sweats of ability wars on average on one life they can get to 25+ kills or more
But yeah just nerf it doesn't need to remove it it's fun if you're bored

[hard needle]

Whats 1 and 2 lol

[primal gust]

1 Is probably time user whenever they run and 2 is some other runner ability

[rose mountain]

Ufo mas and midas respectively

[hard needle]

Imo its god punch and plant or sth

[slow wyvern]

1 is plasma

2 is also plasma

hate that fuckass shield

[rigid zinc]

DoS is nothing to me since I use spring, idrc

[valid dune]

2 is time and 1 is berserker

[calm trellis]

why is 1 berserker

shouldnt it be something like

uh

[valid dune]

i hate berserker

[calm trellis]

theres also the annoying engis

the annoying quantums that keep sending you to the shadow realm

[valid dune]

i nEVER see quantums

[fierce cairn]

engineers are (or maybe were, idk I haven't played in a while) a really good but still balanced counter to DoS

a car can just combo a DoS to the void

[calm trellis]

yes but if the dos isnt BLIND

they can just avoid it

unless they get pushed

or slimed

[pallid sigil]

Or the engineer will get targeted by a random person or the do’s themselves unless they’re building something small or quickly

Also if I’m being completely honest I wouldn’t be surprised if a majority of users who get 300 for operator badge got it through DOS farming

[fierce cairn]

thing is
thats how every ability counters DoS
stay in a hidden part of the map until you get your ability or whatever and kill the dos

[hard needle]

Or like alchemist can just stack 3 or 4 of each potion (power and speed) to 1 shot the dos

[warped briar]

That's an opinion without arguments

Also why does this channel even exist, not like dos is ever gonna get removed 😭

[calm trellis]

however with engi its especially hard because

not only car comboing is really guaranteed

but also literally the dos being three studs off the ground makes you unable to get to him

[fierce cairn]

I think it's a subtle way to get ppl's opinions on DoS

[pallid sigil]

Dos users just sweat tbh they don’t care if you are in the middle of peacefully emoting and talking with someone and then they come and start comboing you

And you either die or immediately kill the DOS

[primal gust]

RN ITS CUSTOM USERS WHENEVER THEY USE THE OIL

[fierce cairn]

dos doesn't feel fun to fight against
and rlly only feels fun to use when you're at like 35+

[stone ibex]

If dos was removed I’d genuinely never come back to the game again for more than 5 minutes

(All that is what I usually do but extend 5 minutes to like 3 hours)

Yall are js allllll baddddd

Any complaint about dos can be fixed by using simple common sense such as the leave button but yk wtv

I guess there’s also js attempting to gank them which usually works anyway

[stone ibex]

“Wahh wahh someone pvp’d me in a pvp game”

[stone ibex]

Idk I find it fun to use past 15

And it’s easy to get to that level

For me

[stone ibex]

Yeahhhh watch out when that dos gets 35 or smth…

[rigid zinc]

still

[rose mountain]

Ability forces you to change servers

Plus, there are barely any great anti dos abilities now

It's all either bait (glue, seat, cards, magnet, etc) which is countered by paying attention, railgun (which isn't as big of a threat as it used to be), and other stat sticks (unmas and mas alch)

Now take a guess which abilities counter dos the best

That's right, it's the stat sticks

[stone ibex]

It doesn’t but complaining that u keep dying isn’t a hard fix at all

Plus there’s like 10 + ppl in a server that can think of smth cuh

[rose mountain]

Name all the counters

[stone ibex]

1. Again I was referring to leaving and its easy to kill em before 35 + or wtv

2. “Name all the counters” 😭 you name all the counters I don’t wanna do allat…. I’ll name some tho

Glue, slime, gravity, seat, god punch (even after 70+ it’s a little risky in combos), magnet, mastered ufo has a gravity orb of some sort, time, uno, alchemist engi w/ prep, railgun, quantum, blah blah blah blah

Like basically just half the abilities in the entire game can be used in a combo or js single and kill a dos if done right / if the dos player falls for it

Ok wtv I got skool

[rose mountain]

How is gravity a counter

If you are referring to getting mooned, they changed it so only gravity can get mooned

[stone ibex]

I mean that’s fine then

Guess it isn’t

[rose mountain]

Glue, cards and seat rely on you not paying attention

Surely wouldn't fall for such a cheap trick

[stone ibex]

Cards and seat maybe but glue just requires contact

[rose mountain]

You have 5 times their speed

Same with gp

[stone ibex]

If you get hit by anything and they can get to u it doesn’t matter

A lot of the counters are effective in combos

[rose mountain]

Mastered ufo's gravity bomb seems more helpful than distruptive

[stone ibex]

Remember there’s usually at least 10 other ppl

[rose mountain]

Remember, you have 5 times their walkspeed, instakill them and have iframes

[stone ibex]

Like 5 second iframes with a cooldown only between 70-200, and a couple of things can instant kill with the right thing

[rose mountain]

Railgun? Requires set up and countered via walls

The issue with dos is

It's a big stat stick

[stone ibex]

If it was extremely easy for any ability to kill dos it wouldn’t exactly be fair

Youre saying these downsides as if they mean something

[rose mountain]

Railgun isn't even that good at countering dos anymore as long as you pay attention

No longer being able to shoot through walls means a lot

[stone ibex]

How many dos players pay attention well to multiple players at once

Because I can tell you it isn’t the majority

Most are pretty mid

[rose mountain]

What, you shouldn't be allowed to play god without using your brain

[stone ibex]

Errrr yeah? And they don’t

[rose mountain]

Well too bad for them

They turn off their brain

Then they will see themselves in the lobby

[stone ibex]

Uhmmmm yeah

So DoS shouldn’t be removed

Average DoS is not capable at all

And most complaints about dying to a good one are a skill issue plus an easy fix because u can js rejoin

[rose mountain]

I mostly just want dos to be less of a stat stick

And have more abilities instead

[stone ibex]

I mean 300 has enough

I think 200 def needs to be changed but other than that I’m fine with dos

[rose mountain]

That's 300

What about the other 299 kills before 300

Dos currently doesn't have that many weaknesses that don't involve relying on the dos user's stupidity

It's biggest threat is alch mas

(Which is also a stat stick and it's own can of worms)

I say

Dos needs less speed and less damage/kb

(And maybe slightly less max health)

In exchange for abilities

To assist it

[calm trellis]

what if we just rework dos to be like if you kill a plant user you can summon its spiky balls

or like if you kill an alchemist you can make an potion

but like each of those are one time

because he does devour souls

[dusk sable]

Bro we need dos

[dusk sable]

That's devourer of abilitys not souls😭

[calm trellis]

i mean then

you could make it so

each ability users soul

is stored on you

and you can use them at will

like an alchemist soul will throw a slowness potions at your enemies

wouldnt that be cool

or a plant soul

allows you to temporarily use plants passive

(aka the plant limby thing)

and a hivemind soul allows you to have temporary lifesteal

[dusk sable]

So do u get stronger or just steal abilities

It would make it useless when I already have all the abilities

[calm trellis]

steal abilities i think

but like

at once

like lets say

you get cola and alchemist

you use alchemist to slow them down

cola to get speed so you can combo them

and either there wouldnt be a limit

or like 5 total ability souls

[dusk sable]

I'd rather just become Chris all mighty and rule the server tbh

They can use rail gun to get rid of me

[stone ibex]

Let’s kill the best ability in the entire game into something way less interesting

Lwk js make that a separate ability

[rose mountain]

Also, it'll have to be recoded every update like mind control

[sacred urchin]

so we can get feedback and opinions on what people think about parts of AW

[warped briar]

Probably the most controversial topic about AW ngl

Though I believe most people who dislike dos dislike it because they don't manage to beat people using it

That's just my opinion though

[sacred urchin]

I believe that removing DoS would be a good thing, but it is already engrained inside of aw enough to the point where trying to remove it would make a LOT of people upset

[rose mountain]

as I said before

the problem with dos is

it's a big stat stick

which is lame and the game no longer has as many big threats

railgun got killed

blood god got killed

gravity got killed

the counters are either

you rely on their stupidity

or it's another stat stick

(or engi ig)

[rose mountain]

that's on you for struggling with magnet

then that's on them for dying to magnet

how does magnet even counter

explain

that's on him for fumbling that

NOT jumped straight at the magnet

[rose mountain]

so basically, he wasn't paying attention to a guy coming towards him

[valid dune]

i dont like it because i have to go out of my way to use alchemist and wait like 3 minutes for potions

[stone ibex]

If DoS ever got removed I better see god punch removed in the same update lwk

Neither are ever getting removed but DoS is quite literally peak

[rose mountain]

I mean

Dos gameplay is just god punch but you have big speed, one singular ability (until 300 where you get 6) and you actually lose something by dying

[warped briar]

no.

dos requires skill

godpunch barely requires any

[warped briar]

a LOT

of

skill

[rose mountain]

I mean for the start sure

But later on

Most of the threats are eliminated by just paying attention

[warped briar]

later on it's quite something different

in terms of gameplay

but similar yes

[rose mountain]

You have like 100 speed

[warped briar]

most people start risking once they have enough souls

same goes for godpunch

[fierce cairn]

gp most likely won't get removed
since yk
gamepass

[green mantle]

you can feel the pain in his magnet🥀🥀

[golden oak]

💀

[hallow dock]

Yall fr know dos is needed for atleast 4 abilities right

[hallow dock]

namely, engineer, puppet, combo and ufo

[pallid sigil]

Engineer could probably just be made to do all but the DOS quest

Puppet I forgot the obtainment

Combo could just have the obtainment changed for example comboing someone without getting hit while they had full health

UFO could have the moonist badge changed for example you could do an obey or fight a boss to get the badge

[golden oak]

Dos is needed for 6 abilities

Hoj , mystic , combo , engineer, ufo , puppet

[pallid sigil]

Ehhhh yeah mystic idk lol

[green mantle]

there are many more creative obtainment ideas they could've been And yet they ended up on dos

[tame dune]

dos is in its prime rn since there is only 2 viable counters aka alchemist mas and gp together

im saying this as a dos main but dos needs more counters

upon reaching 15 souls youre bassicly unkillable

all other dos "counters" are outdated

seats passive cd is known, cards is super predictable, jello is friendly fire if anything, time is way to small and so on and so on

[green mantle]

My magnet is on it's pain

[tame dune]

magnet fell off

only mas is useable

[green mantle]

not really

i usually used it to kill every saturday dos users

[sweet seal]

We all know we can't delete this ability because so many reason

[tame dune]

the said dos users have 3 iq

any competent dos wont die to magnet

[green mantle]

Caught off guard*

[tame dune]

nah thats skill issue

they have semi-esp

at 15+

the ability thing is also used as esp

[green mantle]

any dos will not pay attentions on the back when they attacked someone, Even if the magnet hit doesn't make the dos user fall, There's still a high chances you can still combos afterward.

so i could technically be anywhere around the map to use magnet

[tame dune]

the migthy jumpscare

also magnet is not consistent

sometimes u can die during it

afterwards

[green mantle]

you probably don't even realised of how large the range magnet can be, And also how much chances you can be just caught off guard in the range of it

One mistake and you're gone

Look, I am the one who actually knows how to use magnet

It won't even gonna take longer than 5 minutes

never

[tame dune]

back to what i was saying

dos outruns you

s + space breaks out any combo

[green mantle]

going through the enitre run without a single mistake or a single missed calculation is inevitable

[green mantle]

Depends on how close you're getting knocked to the cliff

if you do it on the wrong time it will just killed you instead of saving you

[calm trellis]

stat sticks are booring

wanna know an ability thats good even though its not a stat stick

army

[valid dune]

you can do 8 potions with milk, 3 sugar, and 1 cake

[tame dune]

and i dodge it with E and kill you

[valid dune]

cant dodge a train twice

and also its hard to predict

[dim nexus]

cell ahhh

[dusk sable]

Bye guys

[hallow dock]

You make your own good points BUT, if they do end up removing dos, they'd probably get alot of backlash from people who like dos.

Also keep in mind, dos is older than most current abilities

[pallid sigil]

Yeah I don’t really mind dos being removed but I don’t think it’d be good for the game

Dos users tend to just be annoying

[hallow dock]

Eh sometimes, but it's all in the mindset. It's either complain and waste your time or actually try and kill the dos. Guess which one is more fun

[pallid sigil]

Complaining fr fr jk it’s obviously killing the dos

Still better than slap battles kill streak

[hallow dock]

facts

[pallid sigil]

Slap battles is just shit

It’s gotten way too grindy

And it’s just not fun

[frail token]

Yeah remove it who needs it

[valid dune]

all dos required abilities are now completely unobtainable

sucks for anyone who didnt get them in time

[sonic pollen]

fym

[frail token]

he means ufo engineer

[hallow dock]

People getting the 6 abilities that are only obtainable via dos

[hallow dock]

I wish 100 could still change the map :(

[calm trellis]

not true

but you know what IS true?

its way too hard to obtain new gloves

like in ability wars for example

lets say puppet

puppets pretty recent

what do you need for puppet?

hold on i actually forgot

whatever i just remember its pretty easy

but slap battles does something like "1/2000 trillion chance you get sent to this dimension when using god hands ability and then you gotta solve 3 riddles and decipher this code in 60 seconds thats random"

for something that gets outclassed by reverse

[green mantle]

the game is so fucking unbalance that it's good

[fierce cairn]

basically a slightly longer version of mystic's obtainment
not very painful

[hallow dock]

only one of the reasons that i quit slap battles

[hallow dock]

Only painful part is taking the leap of faith at the end and praying that you didn't get tricked into jumping into the void

[calm trellis]

extremely unbalanced aswell

[hallow dock]

Kinda gets annoying when you're a 50+ ks and some random with za hando just pulls you into the void

[calm trellis]

i mean unless it was across the map

that ones on you

but then theres bob

[hallow dock]

but the most aggravating part of slap battles is the fact that getting any decently good glove requires loads of luck and skill

the rob bossfight for example

[calm trellis]

you mean bob?

rob bossfight doesnt exist

[hallow dock]

oops ya bob

not rob

the bossfight for rob

[calm trellis]

i mean at LEAST

that bossfights fairly easy

if youve got a good team

and you can get carried aswell

BUT FOR AVATAR

TEAMMATES?

NAH

REGEN?

NAH

EXTRA HP?

NAH

3 hits and youre DONE

not including the intro part

where theres literally multiple times

you can get oneshot

[pallid sigil]

Slap battles obtainment is just annoying

Plus they update the game every week and it gets annoying trying to catch up unless you constantly play the game

And they always change glove prices

[indigo parrot]

did you enjoy fighting prenerf avatar

[valid dune]

you could fight it?

[indigo parrot]

no lol

[soft gate]

Just counter with god punch they wont get close to you🤓

[patent plover]

Its pretty fun to have a high souls count dos , then have the entire server team up to kill them when they are half way through the 300 souls quest

[sick river]

There are many counters if you get the server to cooperate. There's some devious combos like time/slime + a one shot

Or army + railgun

[patent plover]

just get a bunch of engineer and plane crash that dos

[sick river]

That too maybe

[patent plover]

did that today

That guy was at 210 something souls

he and his friend then rage quit

[golden oak]

https://medal.tv/games/roblox/clips/l6q0ZJht9QEiGixhW?invite=cr-MSxScG8sMzY4MjQ0NzU0

no embed?

[severe dagger]

That’s mostly your fault/ the servers, for the DoS user is weak in the beginning phases and is easy-to-kill and you mainly let them farm kills to become strong. No offence ofc!

[valid dune]

[severe dagger]

?

[hallow dock]

Wait till all the DoS haters see this

They'll be fuming

[slow wyvern]

in any phase other than the beginning phase, they are very much not weak, and in fact very hard to kill
hence why you're forced to hard-target them before they get to that stage

and then they have the nerve to complain about it

[severe dagger]

They have NO ability

they get a slight speed, health, damage, and knock back increase that’s it

[slow wyvern]

i don't care how easy they are to kill i don't want to be forced to target them

[severe dagger]

Then don’t?

Simple

[slow wyvern]

if i don't then i have to deal with aforementioned 40 walkspeed oneshot

[severe dagger]

Magnet + god punch, gravity + gravity,

Ect

Many things to end a little streak

I killed a streak of 32 with my bare hands like 30-40 minutes ago

[slow wyvern]

no one with sense is getting close to a magnet
also im pretty sure you can only send other grav users to the moon

[severe dagger]

No

Any person who gets hit by 2 gravity users at the same time get sent to the moon

Or that’s how it used to be

[slow wyvern]

they changed it i think

[severe dagger]

Still though

So easy to kill at any phase besides 300

practically immortal

At 300

But simple solution

Don’t let that DoS user get to 300 🤯

I hate it but I don’t want it to be removed or nerfed

most players who hate it can’t beat it or get much kills with it because they are held back by a massive skill issue. So just note it’s easy to kill a dos user

[slow wyvern]

you: its easy to kill a dos with these abilities
me: no its not, here's why those abilities dont work well
you: still its easy to kill a dos
???

[green mantle]

they hated it because they doesn't wanted it to be their responsibilities.

it's not wrong to remove something that

Is a trouble maker

[hard void]

DOS is annoying yes

Firstly:

DOS makes task alot harder to do, which is annoying to get engineer and UFO. People just don’t get the point why they are being assigned to a hard mission.
DOS just a pain to player overall, DOS user rage quit when killed, other player leave the server when spawn killed.

But when we think about it

That is what really makes the game unique to play, teach and testing the skills of player.
They are excited about getting that 200 souls and players will be more engaged in the game.
It has been as a historical ability in the game. It makes slap battle and ability war both unique in its way. It gives the player unique experience. Which includes from rage quit, give up, to determination and achievement

I mean I went too deep but you guys get my point

[ancient goblet]

dos isnt that bad of an abillity its mostly balance

[sick river]

I object to the "operator is too hard bc of dos quest" argument because, well, BEING DIFFICULT IS THE WHOLE POINT OF THE QUEST

Good things rarely come easy

[hard void]

That is also what I have stated

[patent plover]

doing the quest to get engineer , then to get your build destroyed everytime you place one plate

[sonic pollen]

players when they dont get an easy quest for smt super rewarding and good

[slow wyvern]

i object to your objection

it's ability wars, not badge wars

the point of the game is to have fun beating the shit out of other people

badges should be easy

[valid dune]

badges should be fun

[hard void]

I’m neutral

But one thing for sure

This debate will take 100 years until ability war fandom’s death

[pallid sigil]

Slap battles badges being the most bullshit and having the most annoying obtainment

[hard void]

Kind of agreed

[silent root]

I wouldn’t want it removed but that god forsaken dos quest needs to go

[sick river]

Idk how anyone is supposed to get any SR glove without forfeiting their entire future and success

[pallid sigil]

True

Some badges also require you to do X for 1 hour

[sick river]

I played like 10 games of SR yesterday and I lost every time before I even got 5 kills

[sick river]

😭

[pallid sigil]

Damn

Don’t forget the avatar badge

Glove

[sick river]

True

[sick river]

Cherry mastery challenge

I eventually became a hypocrite and farmed a guy for it

[pallid sigil]

💀

Same guy who wants friend farming banned (no offence)

In this game though

[sick river]

Cuz any ragdoll at all counts as a slap and therefore youd have to get 10 kills in one life WITHOUT BEING HIT BY ANY ATTACK WHATSOEVER

[sick river]

It was one time and it would have been impossible otherwise

[pallid sigil]

Fair enough

[sick river]

I try to avoid farming as much as possible

[pallid sigil]

Ngl weekly updates for slap battles is just annoying

[sick river]

True

[calm trellis]

i wouldnt agree if it wasnt for the fact that the said weekly updates are just

"X glove mastery that no one will probably use and is super grindy"

"X new glove that needs you to spend 6 hours waiting for an orb with a 1/200 chance of spawning in order to go to evil X dimension so that you can beat evil X boss without X to get the glove and you only get 1 try each time you get the orb"

"oh also the glove just lets you slap people from anywhere but its still the default slap"

[languid blade]

tbh i think it shouldnt!!!

[valid dune]

they were never going to remove it

[frail token]

@young wasp Your opinion on this

[young wasp]

I say No

[hallow dock]

one of many reasons why i quit slap battles

and I can't keep up with the weekly updates if school is constantly holding me back

[rose mountain]

yeah after looking at dos

something has to be done about it

[calm trellis]

i honestly also agree

over dos needing changes

because of how big of a skill ceiling it has

[hard void]

Good news guys

DOS badge is nerfed to 200

If that did helped

[hard void]

Wait

How did I predict there will be 200 soul

Isn’t 300? That is a typo

No freaking way

Peak prediction

They actually listened

[tired burrow]

Dos 200 has been around for a year+

You didn’t predict shit

Oh you meant the badge

Yeah you didn’t still predict shit

There’s like 50 suggestions on it

[hard void]

Bruhhhh

[eager torrent]

dos could stay, its just annoying for the rest of the lobby

ik dos mains love it